#j2 live today

[suddenlysundayisspnj2fanlw]

Damn it. Was all set to watch the J2 panel on stageit today from @creationentertainment before I had a family obligation at 5 then I realized I'm in a different time zone (est) so the show is at 5:15 and I'm screwed. How bad is it that secretly i would rather watch our boys live?? But unfortunately I can't so hopefully some beautiful, wonderful, not nearly appreciated enough fan records the event anyway.

[walkergirlsposts]

Hellers are so weird. You know when they are saying they can think of 10 people who are closer friends to Jensen than Jared, they think it’s like: Misha, Karl Urban. Anthony Starr, Rob, Rich, JDM, the kids from The Winchesters, probably new costars from Countdown.

Anything and anyone matters more to Jensen than Jared for them.

While we can’t know just how close any of these people are, J2 actually lived together, were in each others weddings, were neighbours, etc. They may or may not be as close friends today, but let’s not pretend a couple of obvious PR photo ops with Jensen and Misha (or JA being required to join the same political call by Kripke) are the same as living and vacationing together even when they worked together almost every day. Same with the pics of Karl and Jensen. It’s PR, or Anthony and Jensen hugging on stage at Comic Con. They aren’t actually bestest buddies.

People have bought too hard into “SPN family” and think all the cast are in each other’s pockets all the time (except Jared, of course).

In honesty, I think J2 are still friends. I think Jensen is friendly with Rob as they do the music thing. Jensen is friends with Jason as they go way back. Jared is friends with Mark S (and Jensen may be too), and Jensen is friends with JDM, but other than that I think the cast is more friendly acquaintances than true friends. Both J2 have said they are each still friends with people they grew up with, and share some friends from Austin and other parts the industry.

Hellers think only SPN and other Jensen and Misha projects exist, and they think Hollywood friends are true besties (or boyfriends). They are so out of touch, it’s not even funny.

Sorry that got long.

Nothing more to add. 💯 Spot on.

[j2zara]

j2's vegas wedding outfit. porter's carrying him over the threshold of the chintzy honeymoon suite and spreading his bride out on a heart-shaped bed and making love to him ALL night.

IM SORRY I WISH I HAD MORE THOUGHTS ABT THIS BEYOND JUST FORMLESS GLEE. I was so busy living in the euphoria of j2porter vegas wedding roleplay that i forgot i lived in a world where i ought to say more than scream incoherently abt it. Sorry everyone for being soft about these two. Like its my fault. Tomorrow Jace is going to yell at j2 over this but today j2 is glowing. He's so happy and unfortunately im evil and in my heart porter has this terrible moment of in his head seeing J2 like this tacky wedding dress in his arms and all like yeah i would give it all up for j2 and then its over and hes like ok im normal now (he's not). He loves being in porter's arms he loves being carried across the threshold (secretly his favorite part) and J2 is so adoring and trusting and its just. I cry.

And i do think it would even be something that J2 would take a moment to accept, like i don't even think it would be his idea bc like he wants it he wants it to be real in that he wants porter to himself he wants to be the one picked to be It but also he wants the fantasy of it as well if he can't have that but also a part of him is like is it blasphemous is it wrong to want to indulge in the fantasy in which i get to be the one for Porter. Especially if this is not a situation in which he is invoking jace, like this is for him.

I can't decide if that once he's in on it though he's the one nervously but like excitedly trying to voice his ideas or if he's truly in for the ride. He definitely didn't decide on the dress but like unironically he loves it I think in his mind he would end up in something more dainty but its perfect. He can do tacky!!! He likes comfort, he likes tacky, he's never had a sense of style but he likes romance, repulsion at closeness is a jace instinct and it always feels alien in his brain, wrong, and J2 freaks out a bit abt the dress getting messed up at first but like the tags are right Porter is getting into it and J2 can relish the fact that Porter is not going to treat him like a precious thing, the want to the point of destruction is close to what he wants, right?

and the heels are crazy something that high might be a j3 special j2 has never worn a heel in his life and initially he's like idk abt this but if it's what porter wants then ok! And he's kinda wobbling around, but he's earnestly giving it his best shot like asking Porter "how do i look?" and like and its like endearing and awkward and so baby bird and Porter is just like so endeared by it until the heel snaps off but thats ok bc that means Porter gets to carry him some more!!

And i do think J2 gets into the roleplay aspect of it like for real for real. This entire night is about how special J2 is which he's like absolutely taking and relishing and he might actually die of happiness and b/c i love porter but i hate porter he's absolutely playing into it just this idea of like it's crazy and it's stupid but what if we went for it? i would give it all up for you. I chose you. I have to have you, which is why we're ruining the dress and the makeup. Like Porter rips the dress and he absolutely wants j2 to cry and his mascara to run and his lip gloss to smear while Porter is fucking his face and j2 is sooooo into it.

but also it gets very slow and treasures him kissing of the thighs and slowly taking off the garters and J2 might pass out. He's like. J2 is not doing the work for tonight this is for spoiling you (I earnestly think if they did commit to the whole honey moon suite thing Porter is making J2 everyone's problem. This is my special little princess for the night. Get behind me kitten he asked for no pickles). J3 makes fun of j2 for earnestly using the phrase "making love" sometimes and what they're doing usually isn't really that but tonight it is and. he cries but like for once its not like a sad cry or even a bittersweet cry.

But the other half of the roleplay beyond getting spoiled is j2 getting like wayyyy into it like. if he were really. basically living in this fantasy of essentially being Porter's housewife and being like yeah i'd do all your dishes and all your laundry and treat you right and be dressed up for you with a cute little apron and give you a kiss every day when you came home work and of course there's a home cooked meal and you can watch tv on the couch or i could give you a massage and tell you how hard you work and how happy i am to see you and whatever else you want. You're the center of my world. And then i can blow you obviously. Which obviously is huge turn on for Porter so they go at it like two more times and then the rest of the night

J2 doesn’t stop telling Porter he loves him all night. The softy in me says Porter also says it back. But you didn’t hear it from me

[laf-outloud]

Expect Jared to confirm the whole roster for ce next year. Told our meet and greet today. Called comic cons impersonal, lacking the connection he feels with CE

If CE cons allow him a more personal connection that he desires, then I'm happy for him... but also sad for me and all the other fans who live nowhere near a CE con and/or can't afford them.

Here's hoping that CE continues to try out new cities and that they also lower prices since attendance and M&G prices are dropping (and will continue to drop the further away from SPN we are and the longer J2 go without showing up on screen).

[not-a-perfect-metaphor]

(Hardcore hatting post with wives + fauxmance content. Please do not continue if you know that’s going to rub you the wrong way.)

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Today in the world of J2-tinhatting:

Things that make you go ‘hmmm…’ 🧐 number 5,63877 -

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Jared and Genevieve choosing October 24th, 2008 as the day they fictitiously decided to enter into a ‘serious’ relationship with each other.

I’m sure it seemed like it would add an extra little boost of significance to the timing of their staged engagement on October 24th, 2009.

You know…like the proposal was a tribute to exactly one full year of ‘mutually exclusive commitment’ between the two of them.

And to clarify, they didn’t mention any of this; meaning the specifics of when they had officially become a ‘serious couple’ until after their engagement went public, and that was just one of the many necessary milestones they would swiftly need to fabricate (and then remember, which…don’t even get me started) as they pieced together a ‘dating timeline’ that would hopefully be convincing enough to sell their completely out-of-the-blue engagement and marriage.

And when I say out-of-the-blue…boyyyy do I mean it, because for anyone who wasn’t paying attention to the comings and goings of the Js way back then (christ…fifteen years…good grief), the Jared/Genevieve ‘reveal’ happened essentially like this:

Jared vs. romance, post-Sandra McCoy: he’s single, single…single, yada yada, single some more- (except obviously he’s ‘secretly’ with Jensen, and by ‘secretly’ I mean the entire universe knows it…*AHEM*), but yep…still single, sinnngle, wow these gay rumors sure are gaining a sudden huge amount of traction, but anyway…single, sin-

-BOOM, now there’s this one stray article speculating that he mayyy (or may not) have a girlfriend, and…wait, huh? Who dat? What’s-

Oh okay, I guess he really DOES have a girlfriend, and wait, they-they…they’re actually super girlfriend-y/boyfriend-y, or…

They’re engaged?

Yes, they’re engaged!

DUH.

It’s Genevieve. Genevieve and Jared. And, in fact, they’ve been serious and lovey-dovey lovebirds for quite a while, now.

So, um……..psych!

Yes, this is 100% normal, because whether you know it or not, you did actually know about it the whole time.

Yes you did.

NOPE, DON’T EVEN.

YES YOU DID.

YES.

YOU.

DID.

…….

Seriously, though.

I cannot overstate the bizarreness of watching it all unfold in real time…of witnessing the way this relationship that ABSOLUTELY WAS NOT ANYWHERE TO BE FOUND…EVER was being framed and talked about as if it had been right there, right in front of us…progressing normally and not at all suspiciously to the point where it was just like finally, it’s finally just time for these two crazy kids to stroll down that aisle and tie the knot.

……

When meanwhile, in real life, it was pretty much just a giant -

Plus throw in everything that was suddenly going down with Jensen and Danneel AT THE SAME EXACT TIME (like…no joke, though…and then both engagements materializing on the same frickin’ weekend for christ’s sake??)

🙃

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*By the way, the Jensen/Danneel fauxmance unfolded in a way that was equally as dumbfounding and twilight zone-ish as the Jared/Genevieve fauxmance but for completely different reasons, which I’ll rant and rave about in another post, because I have a LOT (a lot a lot) to say about that, too.*

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But back to the Jared/Gen fauxmance and the dates I started this whole thing with.

Because remember the journalist who authored that epic article after interviewing the Js in which she famously wrote that they “share more than just a mortgage”? (they were still publicly living together at the time)

That lovely little chat happened to occur in late December of 2008.

And…but-…but…

Hmmm…🧐

According to Jared…during that interview (again, in late December, 2008), he was “very single.”

He wasn’t even just “single.”

He was “very single.”

He wasn’t “maybe casually seeing a girl.”

He wasn’t “dating a girl” but just not quite ready to name names.

He wasn’t “well…you’ll find out soon enough *wink wink*.”

Nope.

He was living with his best friend (*cough-HUSBAND-cough*) and “very single.”

Lol. So, um, then…

Well, fast forward to Jared and Genevieve’s engagement, October 24th, 2009…

-shortly after which we were informed about the whole October 24th also being the one year anniversary of the day they both decided it was time to fully commit to each other as a long-term, exclusive couple thing.

Except…two full months PAST that special day -

(October 24th to late December)

Jared.

Is.

“Very single.”

[mrswinnie04]

Midnight Rants

This is me being angsty because listening to Chase Atlantic at 10 o'clock at night is my version of bad decisions in terms of writing and contemplating Tinhatter business. I digress.

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Since entering the J2 community circa January 2023, I have fallen so deeply in love with the relationship Jensen and Jared have for one another. It's beautiful. Powerful. And no matter if they're together physically, or not, their relationship seems to be a vast ocean of love and adoration. Anyone watching previous cons/interviews close enough can see the amount of love the two have for one another, whether that be platonic or romantic. And I think this love---this feeling of mutual trust and respect---will stay with them forever. After death. Into the next life (if you believe in that sort of thing).

I want to begin this little post by stating the fact that I do NOT know the true extent of J2's situation (ie. how the bearding works, loving one another, and the extent of things they do for their relationship). I don't know if the two boys are truly happy in their situation (ie. the bearding and not being able to be public), or, if they make their lives work with the way it is and are satisfied enough to continue on.

Before I continue, I just want to say that I am still fairly new to the tinhatter/SPN community, and I don't think I started reading about the "bearding" situation until a month ago. While it is still new to me, something deep in my heart felt for the words/theories people were writing about on Tumblr/Twitter. Hell, take a look at the panels from the past 15 years and tell me those boys' relationship just doesn't strike something deep in your heart? Make you the least bit curious as to how far that love for one another goes? I've read Speak the Truth and countless striking posts/blogs about the extent PR will go or how things just don't connect in terms of SM postings from the wives, the boys, and others around them. To say a part of me isn't convinced would be a lie. Nevertheless, I wanted to reiterate the fact that I'm new to this tinhatter community because while 80% of me believes so deeply in J2 "bearding", another part of me occasionally doubts it. But I think that's okay, because this "if?" or "how?" on J2's "bearding" theories will never deter the fact that I will always stand by the notion that Jensen and Jared's love and adoration for each other would cross oceans. Nothing will ever change that. Nothing.

However, the reason I wanted to write this post today has to do with the "bearding" theories I've been reading about... Ironic, huh? I've been more and more convinced about it everyday.

The idea of J2 being in "bearded relationships" is something that often keeps me awake. It's the "hiding in plain sight" that sometimes breaks my heart a little, even though I know the boys will always find their way back to one another. (Again, I just want to reiterate that I am still VERY new to the tinhatter community, but am just jotting down some things I think about occasionally).

I completely understand, as of reading several blogs lately, that if J2 are bearding, it's because they had to (ie. homophobic society/industry, PR, etc...). It was to protect themselves. One another. To keep their lives for themselves. Nevertheless, I think a part of me will always find their situation to be a little tragic. Heartbreaking, in its own way. And a part of me thinks that they do too.

I don't know... I might be rambling right now, but I think there is a tragedy to loving someone so much but never being able to love them like others can love their spouses. There is a tragedy to having to force yourself not to reach for them in public. To hold them close. To do things that others can with their significant others. It's all like a glass cage---a see but don't touch kind of thing.

It breaks my heart that this whole bearding thing will always force J2 to look back over their shoulders at other another as PR and other stuff tugs them by the hand, away from one another. As weddings were had and families were grown, a part of my heart breaks at the thought of Jensen and Jared constantly looking over their shoulder at one another, wanting nothing more than to run towards each other.

I read something recently, it was a post depicting photos of Jared and Jensen on each of their wedding days, both of them groomsmen. Both of them at the front of what could possibly be the most heartbreaking day of their lives. I mean, can you imagine standing there, watching as the love of your life marries someone else and you have to stand there, watching the whole thing? Can you imagine standing at the altar with people cooing at you in admiration at the tears in your eyes, but those tears aren't for joy? They aren't for your bride?

Weddings are supposed to be the happiest days of peoples' lives yet imagine crying because the man you love stands to your left instead on the altar with you?

Over the course of the last month, I think I've sort of come up with my own theories about J2 timeline/what has happened throughout the past 15 years, but I think what breaks my heart the most sometimes is the fact that both boys have to live a life separate of one another. And I don't mean they can't hang-out or see each other (because obviously they've still done that regardless of PR and other barriers... slay, boys, Slay!), but it's the fact that their years together have been spent loving one another behind closed doors. Having to play up an imagine. Having to scramble to convince the public otherwise. Having to deal with the mental, emotional, and physical strain of it all, but all for love. It breaks my heart that the boys have had to love away from what one may consider normal, not that the word "normal" is anywhere close to a standard definition of an individual's sense of normalcy, because quite frankly, love is flexible. Fluid. It comes in all shapes and forms. It comes with all sorts of expression.

I'm rambling again. I digress.

The point is, as I've contemplated the idea of J2 bearding, I've felt that there is a sense of tragedy to loving someone so much that you'd sacrifice being with them 100% in order to protect them. To protect yourself. That you'd sacrifice holding them, embracing them, calling them "yours" in order to make sure that no harm (physically, mentally, professionally, etc...) ever came to them. To yourself. It takes courage. It takes such a divine sort of love--so unconditional and selfless--to sacrifice that for someone. And, amidst my ramble on heartbreak, I have so much more admiration, love, and respect for Jensen and Jared.

But, you know what? Again, I don't know what their true situation is like. As convinced as I've become, I don't know if J2 are really in bearded relationships (but, again, that will never change my mind on the fact that J2 love each other unconditionally). Regardless, this post is not to make a sob-story out of J2, but just to sort of jot down somethings I've thought about as I've entered the SPN community.

And, you know what? Even if J2 are in bearded relationships, for all we know, they could be very well content with the situation, because love transcends all walls and barriers. Maybe they aren't as saddened by the idea as I am. And this post is not, in anyway, me judging them and their decisions. It's just a little jot of things I've felt/thought about after reading some tinhatter blogs/theories.

At the end of the day, I don't know what Jared and Jensen are feeling or thinking. I'm not them and I'm not their friend. All I can say is that I believe in their love. I believe in it with all my heart and I won't stop believing in it. Watching unconditional love grow is beautiful. It inspires. It creates. It transcends.

Go J2! Hell yeah!

[orionsangel86]

I know i dont tend to go here anymore, but it seems today is a day for j2 fallout truthing on main.

Is it a bit catty? A bit spiteful? Yes. Yes it is. But i dont care.

You try going 7 years getting hate and abuse from deranged j2 fangirls and bronlies and wincesties who build their entire sad little lives around the friendship and secret relationship of two mediocre cw actor men all because you happen to ship one of em (the better one)'s character with another character and THEN experience the glory of a messy public fallout between them and YOU try to not feel a bit gleeful everytime that awkward public fallout is once again proved true.

Its fun okay? I dgaf about the tall one, he's an actual abusive piece of shit who deserves all the mockery he gets. The other one is hilarious cos he has serious winchester derangement syndrome for his own character. If I wanna laugh at them on my own little tumblr blog I will.

If you follow me for anything non spn (in which case sorry for all the times I turn back into a spn blog, its sadly a lifelong incurable disease) please just blacklist #j2 fallout to avoid any of this nonsense.

[blakegopnik]

THE FRIDAY PIC is "Glyph C," by Denzil Hurley, from his current show at Canada gallery in New York. I wrote about Hurley in today's New York Times — my text is below — talking about the way a lot of his paintings, although clearly made objects, seem to reference the found objects that have sometimes been presented as abstract art.

I didn't mention "Glyph C" in my Times piece, but even though it's very different in look from works I did mention, it seems to share their hint of foundness: It makes me think of a trace left from a lost ancient script, or an early example of electrophoresis, documenting our first encounter with DNA.

It looks like there's more to the piece than shape and facture and color — that it has a history that has nothing to do with fine art.

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And here's my Times piece:

There’s found abstraction: Weathered posters hung in galleries by the Italian artist Mimmo Rotella; animal bones that were at the root of Henry Moore’s sculptures.

And there’s made abstraction: Almost all other abstract art, by the likes of Agnes Martin or Donald Judd.

But the works by the painter Denzil Hurley now on view at Canada seem to inhabit a new category we might call “made found abstraction.”

Hurley’s objects are clearly made, from scratch.

“Orange Glyph,” for instance, presents a bright orange canvas that would live happily among the postwar monochromes of Yves Klein.

The piece titled “J2#1” involves an all-black oblong, about head-high, whose subtle mottling make it a dark counterpart to the all-white paintings of Robert Ryman.

But Hurley pushes beyond the customary “made-ness” of his abstractions by adding elements that produce a found, functional vibe. The canvas in “Orange Glyph” comes perched on top of a wooden stick that makes the whole ensemble look vaguely useful, like a protest sign soon to be lettered. “J2#1” is anchored in a crude block of lumber, as though waiting to have a marksman’s target stuck to it.

Hurley was a longtime art professor who died, age 72, in 2021; he knew his abstract antecedents by heart. He was also Black. I wonder if the “foundness” in his works captures a sense, widespread among Black artists, that mainstream culture never made those antecedents as fully available to him, or to any Black artist, as they might have been to white artists, who could access European art’s grand tradition without any question that they had a right to it. By making found abstractions, Hurley links his works to functional traditions that bypass fine art altogether.

[kickingitwithkirk]

Greetings from Austin

Summary: Jensen and Jared are at odds over a monumental decision that changes their lives in a way they couldn’t have envisioned.

Pairing: Alpha!Jensen Ackles x Alpha!Jared Padalecki x Omega!OFC

Word Count: 1824

Warnings: a/b/o, J2 are married/mated, homophobia, bisexuality, biphobia, angst, cursing, jealousy, depression/anxiety, medical stuff, sexual dysfunction, infertility, IVF, surrogacy

*additional warnings to be added in future parts.

A/N: Here we go again with one my weird as hell dreams, series Inspired by this art.

A/N II: There is no intentional hate or malevolence intended towards any of the Ackles or Padalecki families. This is a purely fictional piece containing real and created persons/names/events set in the fictional A/B/O verse. Some dates/events altered to fit story.

*no beta-all mistakes are mine

*divider by @writeyourmindaway​​​​​​

*images found online

Part I

Jared was about to speak when a woman in scrubs called out, “Mr. Bonham and Mr. Page.” they got up and crossed over to her, “Hello, I’m Sissy, Dr. Rodgers nurse, please follow me.”

They pass through the doorway leading through a maze of halls like any other medical clinic, except this one specializes in a particular service.

The nurse opens a door near the back of the clinic, gesturing for them to enter the spacious office, “Please have a seat. The doctor will be with you shortly.” She closed the door, and they sat directly in the pair of chairs before the large, dark mahogany desk.

Jensen, scenting Jared’s nervousness, lifts his right hand, kissing his palm, making him chuckle at the tickle of Jen’s soft beard before twining their fingers together and setting them on his left thigh. He smiles as the door opens, and a silver-haired Beta enters.

 “Hello, I’m Dr. Rodgers. How are we doing today?” He asks, moving to the chair behind the desk.

Jared gave him a tight smile, and Jensen remained placid.

The doctor raises an eyebrow, “Relax, Mr. Page. This visit is to review your paperwork before deciding how we proceed, not the Spanish Inquisition.” Jared released his held breath but couldn’t wholly calm himself.

“I know the process can be overwhelming, but I must ask, is there something we’ve done to make you uncomfortable?” Dr. Rodgers inquires.

“No, everyone’s been nice, very professional; we’ve had issues the first time attempting this.” Jared finished his sentence, but something terrible will happen in the recess of his mind, and it’ll be my fault. Jensen squeezes his hand tighter, instinctively sensing Jared’s mind is trying to spiral. “When we tried this before someone leaked our plans to the media, it wasn't conclusively proven the clinic wasn’t involved.”

We do everything possible to keep our client's anonymity protected here. All of the staff are vetted and sign an NDA. Your real identities will remain confidential, even if you choose not to proceed. It is why you chose this clinic, yes?”

“Yes, it is,” Jensen replied.

“How about we get this bit of paperwork out of the way? Then we can have a more relaxed visit,” he says, shuffling more papers.

“I’ve reviewed the applications you’ve submitted and noted a few discrepancies in the medical section that need clarification. Mr. Bonham, why did you omit Genu Varum from your medical record?”

Jensen kept his expression neutral and felt his stomach automatically clench. He remembered being mercilessly teased throughout childhood about his bowed legs by his older brother Josh and later his buddies when they’d come over to hang out.

By the time he was in high school Jensen’s striking looks and personality got people’s attention first, and nowadays, fantasies are composed in fanfic about his bowed legs.

“The questionnaire inquired about inherited genetic medical conditions; since mine isn’t, I didn’t think it was necessarily applicable.” Jared hears an edge creeping into Jensen’s voice and squeezes his fingers.

“Did you see an orthopedist, and could they determine what caused the condition?”

“I was born a preemie. The orthopedists my parents consulted decided my condition was attributable to that,” Jensen replies tersely, dropping his vocal range. Jared gripped his hand harder, telling him to cool his attitude.

 “Did they suggest surgical procedures or therapies to straighten your legs?”

“No, the doctor didn’t recommend surgery but sent me to physical therapy, thinking it would help them straighten as I grew.”

“So, no others in your immediate family have this issue?”

“Everyone in my family has straight legs, including my three children.”

Jared piped in, “he hates it, but he does this exercise regimen; stretching, strength training. He also takes several vitamins, omega oils, turmeric, and extra vitamin D to support his joints.” They watched the doctor scribble a few more notes.

“Mr. Page,” Jared sat up straighter, “I appreciate that you detailed your mental health status. You’ve recently been hospitalized and have changed your routine to an alternative regimen, increasing your therapy sessions. Has this helped?”

The interview continued for another twenty minutes as Dr. Rodgers questioned him and Jensen in depth about his depression and anxiety; feeling it was ratcheting up, he focused on Jensen’s thumb rhythmically moving over his and used every ounce of his acting skills to appear confident and in control.

Dr. Rodgers closed the files, “I only have a few general questions left, then we can discuss how you wish to proceed.”

After a more relaxed, genial conversation with the doctor, Sissy took them to a couple of private rooms with paraphernalia to help stimulate them into producing a couple of semen samples.

Jensen was getting close to finishing with his favorite spank-bank fantasy when he felt Jared across their bond.

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Jared couldn’t get aroused.

He felt as useless as his flaccid cock.

His doctor warned him that losing his sex drive could be a possible side effect of his new regimen until his body adjusted to it. He had struggled with temporary impotence a few times on his old meds; always fearful Jensen would finally see him as undesirable, no longer a satisfactory mate.

Rationally, he knew it was his illness causing these exceptionally hard-to-deal thoughts recently, and the nagging idea this wasn’t the right thing for them continually kept creeping in. Plus, Jensen’s reluctance about having more children at his age also weighed on his conscience, warring against his biological longings.

They had a humongous argument when he told his husband about the appointment. 

Jensen said this was the wrong time to attempt it again, pointing out he was getting his equilibrium back set Jared off on a rant about how he no longer wanted him and would leave like Genevieve had because he was too broken to deal with anymore.

Unmitigated anguish crossed Jensen’s beautiful features. The notion that his mate could believe that he’d ever abandon him hurt so that no verbal language could ever express how that devastated him after everything they’d been through.

That bar fight to Jared’s first breakdown on set, the years of living as roommates while secretly a couple to finding wives who understood their unique relationship and still married them both in 2010.

Unfortunately, the joyous arrival of JJ three years later exacerbated Genevieve’s frustration of not being able to conceive, and it came out with a vengeance on Jared.

His unexpected breakdown in Switzerland was the final nail in their marriage. Gen was there for him, but it was all too much in the end, and she filed for divorce.

Shortly after, Jared’s iCloud account got hacked.

They believed but never conclusively proved Genevive was behind it since her lawyer was trying to break their prenuptial agreement; the videos documenting his intimate and explicit sexual relationship with Jensen were legally considered adulterous. In the end, the court upheld the legal document, but the ramifications that resulted after.

They were summoned to L.A. for the meeting from hell with WB executives, convinced it was the end of Supernatural and their careers. After the reaming out, they each received a week's pay suspension to cover some of what will cost PR time and money to deal with the inevitable repercussions and appease the show’s sponsors.

How would the show’s fans react? Would they still be able to accept them as brothers only on TV while in real life, they were involved in a highly stigmatized relationship? When they returned to work, there was an atmosphere of tension that hadn’t existed before.

It was an open secret that all shows had their share of bitchiness and backstabbing behind the scenes. Jensen may have thicker skin, keeping tighter control of his emotions, but Jared knew it hurt him just as deeply the loss of some of their friends because of society's prejudicial belief that two Alpha males shouldn’t be involved.

Alan and Donna showed up unexpectedly in Vancouver a few weeks later.

What started as a not-quite-comfortable visit quickly deteriorated thanks to his parents' religious conservatism. They had not raised him like this and blamed Jared, saying he had corrupted their son, leading him into a sinful lifestyle, and told Jensen he needed to repent and return to the wife he’d committed to before god.

Jensen blew up, replying it was none of their business, it was between them, and Danneel knew about them before marrying; he reiterated they better not say anything to her. Without another word, his parents left, and he later called them to make amends. His mother coolly stated that he was no longer part of their family and never to contact them again.

After the twins were born in 2016 came the finalization of Jensen’s divorce from Danneel, painful but congenial. They readily agreed on joint custody and still spent most holidays together. Jensen gave her financial security in their settlement, wanting to make sure she didn’t have to worry about working unless she wanted to.

They received support when publicly coming out as bisexual, then lost some of it when they married, and, to this day, get mocked for not coming out as gay, and Jared continually has nagging thoughts that they have let everybody down.

***

There was another knock at the door, and Jared ignored it, knowing it was that nurse checking on his lack of progress again turned into pounding, “Jared, open this door now, dammit!”

He flinched, realizing Jensen knew what was going on with him. 

Releasing the privacy latch, opens the door a crack and saw concerned green eyes. “Sorry, I thought you were that nurse,” he stepped away and sat back down as Jensen came in, re-latching it behind him. “She came to get me when you stopped answering,” Jensen said, walking over and running his thick fingers through his husband’s long hair, “what’s going on, babe?”

He knows that Jensen already knew, “It’s okay, Jar, take as long as you need.” He paused at the unpleasant scent wafting around him. “If you’d be more comfortable, we could do this at home.” 

Jared shakes his head, “There’s the risk of damage, contamination, and or unable to get it back in time that could make the semen unusable.” Jared quotes from a website.

Jensen softly chuckled, “Nerd,” and Jared noticed the bulge in his jeans, “You didn’t….”

“Drain the snake..choke the chicken..spank the monkey.”

“Fuck! Stop using old man slang.” He shook his head, smiling up at Jensen, intentionally goading him.

Jared reached up for the hand playing in his hair, grasping it to draw Jensen next to him.

“Jack, I don’t want to wait any longer on doing this. I love JJ and the twins, you know I do, but they’ll always be yours and Danneels. I know the timing could be better. I’m almost thirty-eight, and I want our pups running around the house, driving us crazy.”

“For the next eighteen years?”

“Minimum.”

tbc

Part II

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[compo67]

For the kissing drabbles! Can I request #7 for Back Pocket J2? Or is that too specific and not allowed? Regular J2 would be fine too!

(This took a while, but I hope you like it, nonny!)

-

It's a hot day on the island. No, wait. It's a molten lava day on the island. It's terrible, horrible, and seemingly never ending. And it's even worse because Jensen's home doesn't have any--ZERO--air conditioning.

From his side of the bed, Jensen grumbles. "Eat some watermelon," He slowly waves Jared off. "And stop complaining."

They've been naked all day and that still hasn't provided much relief from the oppressive, obnoxious heat and humidity.

Jared huffs and gradually sits up. Moving is difficult in this weather. Doing anything is difficult. He brushes his--frizzy?!--hair out of his face for the millionth time today. "I'm not complaining," he says, pointedly. "I'm... expressing my displeasure with the circumstances as they are."

"Ahh, okay." Jensen reaches towards the middle of the bed and picks up a slice of watermelon from its plate. "I'm so glad you made that distinction."

Jared's brain works hard at putting together a rebuttal, but it works even harder to notice the watermelon juice running down Jensen's stubbled chin. Jensen hasn't shaved in a week and oh my god, how has Jared just noticed this? He could cry at the thought of so many rug burn opportunities gone--wasted! And this past week was full of so much oral--

"Quit it," Jensen growls. "You're staring."

"I have every right to stare," Jared growls back.

"Not when it's creepy."

"I'm not creepy!"

Jensen laughs, deep and loud. It's the kind of full bodied laugh Jared has grown fond of hearing. If Jared could record it and slap it on a record, he'd sell copies of it on the street.

But he also enjoys keeping that laugh to himself. So maybe it's okay enough to just live in the moment and wait until the next one.

"Fine. You're not creepy." Jensen snickers and bites into his captured slice of watermelon. "I was just trying to express that I am not accustomed to being looked upon in such a manner."

Jared gasps. He climbs on top of Jensen's lap, settles there, and looks at him. "Such a manner, pft. You know what you look like, Jensen."

"I do?"

"Yes, you do."

"What do I look like?"

"Like..." Jared taps his lips. "Like a better version of Brad Pitt."

Jensen rolls his eyes and places his hands on Jared's hips. "Uh-huh. Your brain is a wild place, Padalecki."

"It's my world and everyone's just living in it."

"That checks out."

"Hey!" Jared swats at Jensen, then stops to squish Jensen's cheeks. "Look at you, look at this cute widdle face. Perfect for coming on."

Jensen busts out in laughter once again, shaking hard. "Is that all you think about? Coming all over my face?"

Jared reaches back and palms Jensen's cock. "I also think about this coming inside me."

This time, Jensen doesn't laugh. He bites his lower lip and instinctively pushes his hips up into Jared's palm. "Fuck," he groans, as Jared applies a little more pressure.

"Yeah," Jared murmurs, "that's the idea."

The island is a beautiful place in May, even if it leaves Jared feeling like a hot mess. They spent all day outside, in the shade, dressed only in shorts, lying down in the grass. They ate cold lemon-pepper shrimp and drank sugary concoctions imported from Japan while talking about everything and nothing at all. Most of the flowers in Jensen's garden are blooming. He talks to them as he waters them, which Jared (secretly) finds adorable. It might just warm up his cold, dead, Prada heart.

Heat on the island is so different than the heat in Manhattan.

It probably has something to do with Jensen slowly rocking their hips together.

"Third time today," Jensen comments, his voice gravely and dark, just the way Jared likes it.

Tying his hair back, Jared nods. "Maybe today we'll break our record."

"You mean... five times?"

"I mean," Jared leans down and kisses Jensen, "I'm up to the challenge."

They have nothing to do and nowhere to be today. Jensen texted Div and Dali to ask if they could check in on elders today. So far, all texts from them have reported everyone doing well. The teenagers are still planning to play soccer once the sun sets. Jensen wants to join them, Jared hopes to convince him to join them only in spirit--so he can get in that fifth round.

Jensen tastes so sweet, Jared considers having a bite of that watermelon.

Their lips part for a moment. Jensen bumps his nose against Jared's.

"I like having you on me," he says, keeping his voice low.

Jared smiles, unafraid of the crows feet that will inevitably appear around his eyes as time marches on. "I like being on you."

A beat of comfortable silence passes by.

Jensen breaks the silence. He squeezes Jared's ass. "Tell me something about the city."

Jared's noticed that Jensen enjoys listening to stories about New York, whether they're from Jared himself, Dali, or Roberta. Maybe it's Jensen's way of experiencing the city without actually being in the city. Maybe it's his way of easing into his own memories.

"Okay," Jared starts, sitting up again. He rocks backwards, Jensen's cock snug against his ass. He leans forward just a touch so he can tilt his hips, and places his hands on Jensen's broad, freckled chest for balance.

"I love the Dover Street Market on Lexington. It's near this incredible roof top bar. I forget the name of it, but it's got such a great view. But the market. Oh my god. I got the cutest Marc Jacobs lavender, argyle vest there one year. And last winter, I got the most beautiful cable knit dress with its own set of arm warmers. I wore it with a pair of Gucci tights and Prada heels. Speaking of Gucci, Dover Street had a python print leather skirt the last time I went. I should have bought it. It was dyed fire engine red. I have the perfect pair of Louboutin pumps for it. Of course, the damn clerk wanted $4,000 and a blow job for it. I don't regret not giving the blow job. But I do regret leaving the skirt behind. Oh! And there's Post Archive Faction at Dover. I bought a hoodie there for $800 once. It's a mess, but I make it look good. You see, it's got oval cut outs here..."

Jensen partially sits up and kisses Jared--hard and rough, with a kind of heat Jared doesn't mind at all.

"Shh," Jensen coos, effectively shutting Jared up. He tugs on Jared's ponytail. "I'm gonna fuck you now."

"Yes," Jared sighs, with a smirk. "Finally."

It's hot in Jensen's bed--and about to get hotter.

[eisforeidolon]

a well known rather controversial (ex?) j2 fan tweeted this today :

“Jensen saying he can't wait to work with Jared again like he didn't give up the chance to do so as soon as he could. I wish he would just STOP”

and I just have to ask …. What planet do these folks live on? As much as the prequel thing was a fuck up, how is that “giving up the chance as soon as he could” to work with Jared again? I swear these people just create narratives in their mind to make themselves angry over and spout as truth . They are as delusional and unreasonable as hellers at this point

I'm guessing they live on planet stan. Where you can simultaneously believe in five conflicting narratives, so long as all of them paint your woobie fave as the perpetually wronged victim. In this case presumably Jared being the victim of Jensen trying to use Jared's oh-so-superior fame and fanbase because he's just so pathetically failing at everything without Jared's fans [sadface].

While prequelgate originated out of a dumbass move on Jensen's part, what the hell are they even claiming J2 would have been working on together? SPN was over by a mutual decision (and each J's stans tend to insist their fave was actually the one behind it). It's a weird left field assumption to make that Jared would have been on TW if he'd just known about it earlier or that Jensen would have joined Walker in some ongoing capacity. There's no reason to think they would have already done any kind of reboot of the main series in a different format this early, TW or no TW.

So seriously, what?

[racxnteur]

Note to self - Things I Got Done Today:

Took meds in AM

Picked up T grocery order

Finished packaging, ordered label for last domestic package

Received B grocery delivery

Replied to a couple people

Went to post office, got labels printed, sent off 3/3 domestic parcels

Went to bank, went in when ATM didn’t work, got check/deposit taken care of

Stretched some

Fulfilled prescribed flossing/brushing/etc

Ummmm

Answered J from GCC finally and got letter confirmed

Fortunately family weekend thing was canceled so my parcels to L C and D not wastes

???

Oh went thru and collated consecutive Live Photos from phone to vids, deleted bad captures & re-thumbed a few misleading previews

Went thru unidentified Japan receipts, snapped, ram thru translator, compiled w originals in picsew for spending ref

Stuff to do next:

Complete Japan money assessment

Look into grandmother/CS/ML thing

Figure out RT install issue and/or fix DT workflow

Unpack from & collect packing cubes/borrowed luggage for J2

Check with F re next week’s appt

Answer HB for getting on schedule again

Deal with MH bill to get on THAT schedule again

General post trip to do list establishment

Catch up to next unread in BB if reasonable

Try to find wax seal for L2 package

Put away rest of groceries

??? Definitely more stuff but uhhhh it’s a start

[laf-outloud]

//They're charging $15 *a piece* for each event at the con they're streaming. So if you want to see the panel, SNS and mc's something or other than that's actually $45. So they are absolutely monetizing everything they can as much as they can.//

CE is a company. Of course everything they do is a cash grab. This just happens to be one I appreciate. Making some panels available is cool for those of us who want to see them, but can’t, or don't want to, physically go to the con. They certainly aren’t going to stream a panel for free, and I’m surprised it’s only $15 per panel. If this is popular, it will probably be $25 next time.

$45 if someone cares to see all 3 streamed panels is a hell of a lot less than like $130 Sunday pass to see J2 (or whatever it is now), plus whatever a Saturday pass is to see Misha. Not to mention, the $700+ I’d be spending if I flew to this conI. I will be happily spending $15 to see J2, but you couldn’t pay me to sit through Misha's panel, so I’m quite glad to save the hundreds but still see J2 in reel time.

Anyway, I do agree it’s a cash grab, but this time it’s one I dint mind, as long as they don’t start banning con videographers. Hepelly, they are smart enough to know that’s free advertising for them. And the stream better work when people are paying for it, no choppy crab or dead air.

I will say, getting Jensen to join the SNS show is VERY MUCH a cash grab. Who’s betting the tickets for that have tripled since they announced Hensen would join today? Lol. CE = greed.

Yep, it's not a bad business move, especially if people like yourself can spend very little money for a hopefully decent, live video. I hope more people like yourself recognize it for the cash grab that it is. I've seen a few tweets from people who think CE is doing this out of goodness of their hearts, lol! And yes, I really hope it doesn't turn into banning con videographers.

I think the base ticket price is the same, but you just know that certain Jensen fans are going to use the Tipping option to secure some vague prize.

I hope they read the small print so they can still see the concert, lol!

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[jarpadswalker]

Anon, not directly but indirectly, his parents are responsible for his decisions. They made him crave attention, and they made him insecure. They made him someone whose identity depends on what others are talking about him. I mean, his dad is a failed actor who later chose voice acting to earn the living. Later, he used Jensen to fulfill his dream of being an actor. Jensen became a catalog model at a very young age, and it is a known fact that modeling exposes people to insecurities, and Jensen got exposed to it at a very young age. this entire life has gone into living up to the standards set by other people. Securing his image in other people eyes. He is always burdened with the thought of what other people might think of him.

Someone who has seen his marriage drama, I can tell u that there was nothing normal about it. In fact, it raised many questions.

Early on Jensen's image, it was that of a player. he would have a new woman in his arm at every event. He hardly had any steady relationship. It was also considered cool at that time. Then, around 2008, things changed. People started preferring stand-up guys over players. Actorbwho are loyal to their girlfriends and wives started getting praised. In early 2009, Jared announced his engagement to Geneiviev. Now, at that time, Jared and Jensen were joined to the hip so much that people were thinking they were in a relationship, and it wasn't just tinhat theory. People in media actually thought they were in secret relationships. You should read their earlier interviews, and you will understand why. There were a lot of things that suggested so from Jared talking about parading naked together in the house, both (jared&jensen) lived in to Jensen, talking about the size of Jared's dick.

Now, Jared announcement of engagement wasn't a shocker. People knew he was dating Genevieve. It is also why Genevieve attracts more hate because many tinhatters blame her for coming in between J2. The engagement announcement also dulled the assumption that Jared was gay. But, it brought Jensen in hyper focus, and people and media started assuming that it's Jensen who is gay and got hots for his co-star. Him going through a different girlfriend was just to hide his true identity. Industry wasn't that open to the LGBTQAI community then so it was a possible theory. As people started speculating, PR played their magic and ....BOOM...Jensen brings Danneel in front of media while attending some events. It is the first time that media has seen them together as a couple and not the official couple either. So they just write her off as another girl planted by PR for Jensen. Then, within months, the announcement comes of their engagement. It was such a shocker that a media journalist (not pseudo journalist or bloggers that we see today) but actual media journalist took to Twitter to question the whole engagement. He even indirectly calls Danneel beard, which rubs her wrong, and Danneel gets into a full-blown Twitter fight with this guy. The fight ends with Danneel claiming that he will be top on her list of wedding invites.

Then Jared gets married in full fanfare it was a complete event with their pictures plaster everywhere. Blogs on the caterers, story of proposals, their dream to have white wedding, them outing together, their marriage pictures also got "leaked" to the media (aka well planted PR strategy). Again, the media speculation around Jensen began.

Then, after a month, Jensen announced his marriage with Danneel. Again a shocker because there wasn't much talk about them after the initial months of engagement announcement, so people and even fans had thought that they the relationship broke. But then comes the announcement there were lot of chatter on how Danneel is been seen fighting with Jensen's mom and they are kit really happy with it etc. Then marriage happens, and it is the most underwhelmed marriage of an actor in Hollywood. No PR images, no media coverage, no planted story, nothing whatsoever. There were only a few images that got released, most of which could easily get confused with some party images. Danneel high fiving few girls, Jensen drunk as fuck. Then, one picture at the altar, and that is it. There wasn't much talk about it, no young lovey lovey vibes, nothing. Oh yes, Danneel shared the wedding invite with the journalists, and he replied back saying something. This is something he never thought would happen, and he congratulated her.

Post marriage, while Jared was gushing about Gen their different stories and their honeymoon adventures. Their was radio silence for Jensen. AAs as always started making excuses on his behalf, claiming that he is shy. He wants to keep his marriage private, etc. Whereas, tinhatter started claiming how Danneel is a great ally beard and loves J2 so she isn't interfering between J2 let them enjoy them and Genevieve is a villain becoz even though she is a beard she want Jared for herself.

Then, media scrutiny came once again during comic con when people saw vast different between Jared and Jensen behavior with their wives ... while Jared was full-on PDA ... Jensen and Danneel weren't even walking together.

PR interferes again, and we Danneels interview where she talked about taking Jensen name and some weird stuff that seemed sexy only in her mind. We even have Jensen parroting a well rehearsed story of why there are no marriage pictures of Jensen and Danneel. Apparently, according to his story, they hired a photographer (the origin of the photographer changed in every version of the story) who got heavily drunk, and instead of clicking pictures, all he did was curse the guest which was a shocker for theor christain grandmas. Weird story, but ya, that was what it is.

Then boys goes to Rome and Rio for cons, and there we have Jared sharing his honeymoon stories while Jensen talked about how he had Gino with him and Danneel on honeymoon and how he finished reading the entire book. After this they whole story around marriages stopped, PR didn't try to plant any pieces, nor did Jensen take any initiatives to talk about his marriage. This was also the time when con questions started getting vetted by the volunteers.

Then, after years, when JJ was born, Jensen started talking Danneel not extensively but mentioning her name in between sometimes. He answered a fan question of the best dish made by their wives. He spoke about how Danneel had made some great dish once, and she doesn't make it regularly as she thinks it won't be special if made regularly. It was also a time when Danneel was getting linked to his best friend Steve, and they could be seen together everywhere.

So you see, Anon, their entire marriage, at least in the public eye, seems nothing but sham. Something that was done out of a necessity to stay positive in the public eye.

PS: Sorry, @hologramcowboy such a long answer to your post.

What I don't get about his parents is how they were strict about many things but then let Jensen basically marry a camgirl.

Listen, I am NOT a fan of D. Hell, I'm not even a fan of Jensen anymore, but to suggest his parents LET HIM marry D?? That man was 32 when he got married, he didn't need his parents permission and they had zero right to stop the marriage either. Many people have claimed they weren't happy with the wedding (obviously all unverified) but Jensen was a fully grown adult man who made his own decisions, they didn't "let him" do anything (after the age of 18 at least). If he was 17 and trying to marry her and they let him? Ok, then you can place some blame on them, but not at 32.

"Let him" in the sense that they did nothing to educate him on how to make a healthy choice and then accepted her even though Jensen was clearly settling.

Anon, you need to breathe and stop drammatizing everything. I mean it, it's a very unhealthy thing to do.