#izzy hating anon

[sunnibits]

...Vico wasn't talking about Izzy. Izzy is not kind. Izzy is cruel, unnecessarily. He is abusive, he is racist, and he is NOT a part of the crew of the Revenge. He was kicked off, as per the terms HE SET (and then complained about having to abide by--because he is a hypocrite), and when he became captain after basically snitching to the cops, the crew immediately mutinied. They are not his crew. None of them like him. He has treated them ALL like GARBAGE. You are a delusional fucking idiot. Izzy isn't getting a love interest. He's not getting a redemption arc. He didn't regret what he did to Ed. He is a piece of shit. He is an antagonist. An obstacle to Ed and Stede being happy together. He is disgusting and so are you for making EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM WHEN IT IS NOT HIS SHOW. IZZY IS NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER. HE IS NOT GOING TO MAGICALLY BECOME THE MAIN CHARACTER. God you're fucking gross. Abuse and racism apologist.

Wow buddy, you really out all that effort into that fat juicy paragraph for me?? I’m so touched 🥺

[cononeillbreastingboobily]

Can't wait for Izzy Hands to die in s2 so disgusting abuse apologists like you can fucking kill yourselves about it.

And you can suck me loud and sloppy ✌🏻😎

[scariercnidaria]

(guy who is about to throw a brick at a hornets nest) izzy hands is actually the least toxically masculine character in ofmd by virtue of being wifecoded and if you dont like him its because youre a cryptomisogynist

[whentheresidentsareevil]

I guess the taunting anon ask I got in my inbox the other day makes sense now

[egtotaldramatakes]

I just saw somebody say that the chris x izzy ship is valid???? no the fcuk its not???

-saturn anon

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[something-about-sunflowers]

Literally, imagine the outrage in the fandom if Izzy fans started shittalking Stede or Ed or Lucius (or or or) in their character tags the way yall do ours. And we’re just expected to sit quietly with that? We’re not allowed to be upset or annoyed by that? Suddenly we’re cunts if we tell yall something for coming into our house and shitting on our floors? Make it make sense.

There’s so much I could say (And have said! In private! Where people who would be hurt/take offense can’t see it! Like a decent person!!!) about all yall’s faves and yet!

I know yall don’t have to block new people with the same fucking recycled takes every day like we do. I know yall don’t have to worry about someone you liked who was neutral on the character previously deciding they wanna side with the assholes who’ve been harassing you and yours for a whole year now (Oh, wait, yall don’t get that harassment do yall? Or, if you do, it’s the same serial harasser that targets us that just got a little confused, who yall gladly direct back to us.).

And for what! For a character that all of your faves on the cast and crew love?! For a character we were specifically told to pay attention to on a rewatch by the creator of the fucking show? For a fictional fucking character?

Like, genuinely, level with me: You do understand that it’s rude to put character hate in the character tags, yes? You do understand that you’re allowed to dislike a character but you should not be making it a moral imperative that everyone else dislike the character, yes? You do understand that harassing someone for any reason but especially over fictional characters is wrong, yes??? Please say ‘yes’.

[irate-iguana]

Anon won but at what cost?

[vaperarmand]

unfortunately the thing is that izzy haters are destined to fail. like sorry i know he's the worst and he fucking sucks but david jenkins has sort of a "i want you flat on your back. helpless. tender ... and then i want you strong again" type relationship with him. it's inescapable

[carrymelikeimcute]

I feel like we need to add critical thinking questions to the end of ofmd posts just for you. Bc I genuinely think that you just find the worst, most bad faith interpretations of people's extremely lukewarm takes just because you like fighting. It's strange.

My second ever hate comment! Bless.

Now the real question, is this the anon who made the post that 'no Ed fan ever says blah' and you're just big-mad because that was so easy to disprove with 10 seconds in the 'izzy anti' tag...

OR are you just a randomer who doesn't know how to find the block button?

No idea, because you couldn't dredge up an example.

(Speaking of 'just because you like fighting' I'm not the one sending anon hate for attention, petal).

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

was gonna say it in the tags of my last reblog but it was such a heartwarming post i didn’t want to put my Grumpy Fandom Whining on it lmao

but like augghg when there’s a post discussing izzy and his connections to racism/colonization (both from the implicit biases of his character and the meta themes of his narrative role) and izzy stans crawl out of the woodwork to be like “well if you hate izzy for being racist you MUST hate stede for also being racist!! you’re being a hypocrite!!!! stede is just as bad!!!!!!!!!!”

but like 1. i don’t hate izzy bc he has racist implicit biases and 2. i have never denied that stede doesn’t have a LOT of growing to do

but aaaaaaAAAAGHHHH YOU GUYS. YOU GUYSSSSS.

it’s not about the biases. it’s not about characters being Problematic™. i just don’t like izzy bc he’s MEAN!!!

THATS IT! THATS LITERALLY IT!!!! he’s mean and bitter and that does not appeal to my personal taste in blorbos!!!!! i don’t CARE if he’s in deep unrequited love with ed i don’t CARE if he’s surrounded by idiots and he’s tired and exasperated I! DONT! CARE!!! i don’t like characters who are just viciously mean to everyone around them no matter what!!!!! he is mean and unfunny except when he’s being laughed at and i find that deeply unappealing!!!

and if you like izzy, that’s literally fine. like congrats! im glad you have fun with your little asshole antagonist!!! liking mean characters is totally valid!!!! but oh my GOD to come onto an analysis of izzy’s racism and be like “okay but what about stede-” stede has a lot he needs to work on, but my hatred of izzy isn’t about how i focus on his flaws and my love of stede isn’t about how i ignore his.

STEDE, man. this guy set out to build a family at sea and he gladly shares everything he has with people and wants his crew to have fun and express themselves and yeah sometimes he can be self absorbed and ignorant but by GOD he CARES about building a little community on his ship!!! and despite all his flaws and all his room for improvement, it works!!!!!!! and that’s what everyone completely MISSES when they try and defend izzy by shitting on stede!!!!!!!!

[ladyluscinia]

I mentioned this when I was musing the other day, but it is genuinely wild that the OFMD fandom has somehow gotten this divided over Izzy and Edward's character arcs given that they basically don't exist yet.

Season 1 was like 5 hours of tv, which is barely anything by tv standards, and it had to spend that time mostly on Stede's arc to speedrun him from intro-Stede to hero-Stede. Plus getting you introduced to the ensemble cast enough to care about them, getting you introduced to the concept of BlackBonnet on a "this is how they are compatible and why you should root for them once we start on the struggles" level, going on a detour to give Jim a fairly decent subplot arc, generally just being funny...

I mean, at the end of the season Izzy has gone through a complete life collapse that still only really encompasses the inciting events of his story in the series, and Edward is a main character but he didn't shift from mostly static character setup to actual arc progression until, like, the start of 1x09? And he had to split time pretty heavily with Stede so that comes out to what? 30 minutes, max?

There is a reason that a lot of my speculation as to why Izzy isn't a bigoted villain leans so heavily on show themes, genre, and doylist questions of "why not be worse?" And it's because at the moment Izzy isn't far enough on his arc to have definitively committed to a "good" or "bad" arc direction. There's just not enough content. Neither side has enough evidence purely from Izzy's character and actions to say this is where he's going, vs you could totally do that with Stede.

But I do think we have enough evidence to compare what any Izzy option would require from the writing and what they would say thematically, and I think evil bigot Izzy is both poor thematic messaging and lacking the kind of setup I feel they would need to have done by now, given how limited the show is on planned time. If they wanted him evil, they did not have the episodes to waste on close ups of his emotional devastation or using plausible surface level explanations that sidestep the actual messages they supposedly wanted him to send. He should have just skipped over that bit and been Evil™ like the Badmintons.

[biceratops7]

Wait do you think being queer makes someone immune to being homophobic. because that's not how homophobia or being queer work.

That is SO hilariously rich coming from the Izzy fandom.

Also there’s acknowledging internalized homophobia, intra-community conflict, effeminophobia, etc etc, and then there’s acting like you’re the only queers in the room. It’s pretty obvious when someone knows the difference and when they don’t.

[cononeillbreastingboobily]

Steddyhands shippers are some of the most vile people on the planet. You stan a racist abuser and you want to inflict him on the people he treats the worst. You don't get to be excited about Stede and Ed reconciling and being happy because you don't actually want that. You're gross and disgusting.

Don't you get tired of being such a little bitchy hater when the literal showrunner of the show you get sooooo heated about literally says not to be a hater? This show is built about themes of love and acceptance, so I'm assuming your problem is that you either haven't even seen the show in it's entirety in the first place, or you're so deeply miserable in your daily life that you're simply unable to see anything past your feelings of hurt clouding your judgement.

Do you get tired? Do you not get enough attention in your daily life? Aren't you exhausted by being fueled by hate? I know I would be if I were you. I think I wouldn't have energy for anything other than letting the rot consume me.

I feel sorry for you, genuinely, especially since you keep coming back to me, keep hurling words at me that don't work simply because... You can't hurt me. I'm stronger than you and I think you know that, and that's why you keep coming back to my inbox. Because you think you can break me, if only by tiring me out and having me snap in your hands. You want to try and awake the same level of bitterness in me, as you have in your own heart.

So, I'm assuming you get very, very lonely. It must be lonely to be like this, isn't it?

You know, if you ever wish to start seeing the better side of life or the show you're so deeply focused on, I'd be happy to have you here. Hell, there's so many lovely, wonderful people in the fandom who I know would love to have you here if you simply decided to become a part of it. We could talk it through as a crew, you know?

However, until then-

[samuelroukin]

I know you said you were terminated but I still can't believe that happened. as if it's your fault you're so incredibly funny and hot and sexy and hilarious and relatable and inspirational and sexy smh whoever reported you had their own problems

kdhlkjhgjhdgdjhgt i don't think it was that, i think it was cause i turned my vpn on but support never gave a reason so 🤷‍♂️

[softestepilogue]

Wow that Izzy stan anon is a stupid piece of shit. Izzy fans are racist. They prioritize the thoughts and feelings of a white (cop loving) man who has shown abusive and racist tendencies. But all of that is FINE to Izzy stans who want to woobify him because his voice is funny or whatever. Izzy fans completely miss the plot because they're too busy thinking they're being persecuted. Izzy isn't the main character. He deserves everything single horrible thing that happens to him. And the Izzy stans with their deliberate misinterpretation of other characters are going to come out of s2 looking dumb and even more racist than usual.

the thing is i don’t mind Izzy ! i think he’s hilarious. he’s not my fave character and i don’t find him remotely interesting beyond comedic relief and i wouldn’t care if he was gone from the show.

but other people do love him best and that’s fine. it really is. but it’s when they start villainizing the main character who’s a poc that i have a problem with. calling ed an abuser as if izzy isn’t also a flawed character. it’s weird because it happens in multiple fandoms and it’s time to call a spade a spade. you know what i mean?

and then telling people they’re ableist and classist for not liking izzy. it’s weird the way they will jump through hoops to victimize a flawed white male character and villianize a flawed poc character and act like we’re the problem for calling them out on it. act like we’re the problem because we notice how white male characters are treated better by fandoms than poc characters. and they try to pull the “oh wow now i’m racist because i like a fictional character.” they intentionally misinterpret what we’re saying to act like we’re ridiculous for calling them racist for liking a fictional character when that is not the problem.

like the ficticional character you like but do not dismiss the real world problems fandoms have where poc characters are treated differently than white male characters. it’s exhausting. it really is.

[calciferstims]

asking bc I personally have held myself back from making things several times because I felt like my hyperfixations weren’t cutesy or unproblematic enough ://