#ivan deserved better

[imaginaryheaven]

I agree with everything you said! I don't want to sound ungrateful, because I love Vivimeng's work, but this round felt...disappointing? It was supposed to be focused on Till's feelings and the impact of Ivan's death (that's what they told us weeks ago)...but we didnt' have any pov about Till's feelings for Ivan, and the only flashback was a Tillmizi one who felt very shoujoish. Even if Ivantill is mutual, I don't feel happy because we didn't SEE that. R7 also left a bitter taste because Till was a great character and his death felt like a plot device to hurt Mizi (more). A little part of me thinks vvm didn't want Ivantill to take the focus away from Mizi, which I respect, they are their characters...but now we ended up with Till having a useless death and never getting character development, Ivan's sacrifice meaning nothing (you could erase his character and the story would be the same, and I say that crying because he is MY FAV), and a lot of fans destroying both of them ("Till only cares about Mizi, my hetero king" "Lol, Ivan sacrificed himself for someone who doesn't give a shit about him").

And don't get me started with the influx of romantic!Tillmizi fans saying that Tillmizi is canon, and denying both queer ships (Ivantill and MIZISUA). I don't know what vvm were thinking, but I don't think this is good result. ALNST was supposed to be a tragic story with queer characters, and now a lot of people are treating it like a shounen with a tragic (straight) main couple. Of course, it's the fandom's fault for being dumb and needing everything spelled with neon lights, but It makes me want to tear my hair off.

I hope Till is alive. I hope vvm have something else stored for us. I hope they start to show important things about the characters in the videos and not only in paid content that not everyone can see. I hope they share a comic or a video about Ivantill or Till's pov so that at least their fans can have closure. Because, right now? everything is a mess :(

okay. i am going to dump some of my thoughts (and frustrations) regarding r7 ivantill and ivtll in general so i would like to reiterate beforehand that these are MY thoughts and opinions and i know fully well that alnst is not over. i would Love to be proven wrong on this in the future, and im really hoping i am because i love vivimeng's writing.

one of the obvious and common 'frustrations' that people have with ivantill is that we never really get much of till's perspective or thought process regarding ivan. we thought we'd get some in r7, but all we really get is seeing that ivan is a trauma for till that is successfully used against him. but that still doesn't say much on how till actually feels about ivan. personally i think most people would be deeply traumatized by someone they grew up with dying right in front of them (and for them), so his reactions aren't exceptionally telling.

and honestly? that's perfectly fine. ultimately, ivantill is meant to be a onesided, tragic love.

well. it would be perfectly fine, to me at least, if there weren't so many insinuations to ivantill being mutual in extra content. obviously i can't show what exactly was said, but in today's patreon post, they essentially say the emotions between ivan & till were shared. (it was kind of. tacked on at the end. which was a little weird to me ngl)

it just. kind of rubs me the wrong way, honestly? if till really is dead and both of their character arcs are over and done with. it's kind of weird to me that they do so much for ivantill in extra content, patreon posts, and official art, but show almost nothing of till's perspective in the actual series. i thought it was a specific choice to only reveal all of that after ivan already sacrifices himself, but that didn't happen.

and i hate saying im disappointed, because im not into alien stage for ivantill specifically and it being unrequited or over isn't really the problem for me. it's that there's nods to till's feelings only in content that isn't the actual series. it almost feels like fanservice in a way ?? which feels stupid to say but. to have so little of till's pov of ivan in alnst itself but to state that their feelings were shared, to show his lyric sheet post r6, to have his hatred/love photocard be what it was... it feels off to me. i wish they'd either show some of that in the series itself or just not include it, if that makes sense.

but obviously this all just right now, immediately post r7, so who knows. i might be proven wrong next video. i believe in vivimeng's ability to create a full story, so i've just gotta wait and see!

[tampire]

"We're merely humble wanderers passing through."

[fuckyeahizzyhands]

I miss them ❤

[realmyth]

Was having a great day till I saw this comic. I proceeded to cry on my bed

[black-rose-writings]

Ivan is Genya's Gay FriendTM. He deserved better. They both did.

Saints, I desperately need more content of those two being definitelly-not-friends. Look at her teasing him. This is the good shit.

Ivan Semyonovich Kaminsky returns to the Making at the Heart of the World. He will always be with us.

Siege and Storm- Chapter 4

Let’s pour one out for the last of named Grisha loyalists, Ivan “Couldn’t even get proper surname in canon”…

I wish it would end here.

Keep reading

[jacks347]

CONCEPT:

YOU CAN LIKE A CHARACTER AND NOT LIKE WHO THEY ARE

Case and point, I love Raven as a character. But she's a shit human being and I don't like her as a person.

"But she's traumatized! You can't hold what she does against her!" I'm going to use your spine as a jump rope.

Say it with me now-

TRAUMA �� IS NOT 👏 AN 👏 EXCUSE 👏

Neon Wings Raven is a bitch who purposefully pushes people away without explanation and hurts them and then beats herself up over hurting the people around her. She's in her own self-fulfilling prophecy of hurt and pain and throws herself a pity party for it instead of trying to change it.

Don't even get me started on her jumpiness and selfish pride in abandoning everything and everyone who has come to care for her just because she thinks she's burdening them and causing more hurt and pain.

Is it a reasonable response after what she's been through? Yes.

Do I blame her for acting the way she does because of it? A little.

Do I think she deserves better than what the world has given her to help because the state screwed her over? Absolutely.

Do I like her as a person understanding all of that? Hell no.

I didn't like how Michelle handled talking to Raven but she was so right, Ivan deserves so much better than her.

Mans really said "I can fix her"

Anyway, Raven is a bad person but that's not gonna stop me from loving the hell out of her. I'm gonna shut up now.

(Also that rant about hero characters is coming, it's just taking a lot longer than I thought it would and all of this is a part of Raven's explanation soooooo yeah)

[underwxrldprincess]

The Miraculous Ladybug characters and who I ship them with

Marinette x Adrien

Adrien x Marinette

Alya x Nino

Nino x Alya

Chloé x jail

Mylène x Ivan

Ivan x Mylène

Juleka x Rose

Kagami x Félix

Luka x someone who puts him first

Nathaniel x Marc

Kim x a punch in the face

Marc x Nathaniel

Rose x Juleka

Félix x heaven

Lila x the ninth circle of Hell

Alix is aromantic, I don't ship Max or Sabrina with anyone and I kinda want to see Zoé end up with a new character 😅

[lizzardwitch]

Kendall: How do three men in their 20s not have 800 dollars between them? James, Heckyl, Ivan: .... James: They're- Heckyl: The economy is in shambles- Ivan: Have you taken a look at the marketplace right now? James: The NASDAQ... Heckyl: Dow Jones... James: It's up and then down... Kendall: Stop talking, goddamn it! Fine! I'll do it! I'm not getting my money back, am I? Ivan: Give us money.

[quixtrix]

god save our women; a ramble of an analysis

or, captain laserhawk REALLY shot jade in the face and im still upset about it because oh my GOD they really made her be thrown into a role that is not HER and in death she's still a Figure. yknow, i personally don't have a problem with sarah x jade, but over the past few months occasionally i'd think about it. yeah, it's funny to call sarah gay as hell for putting jade in a femme fatale outfit, but. should that truly be our basis for the ship? or should we think a bit deeper on why exactly sarah would put the sole woman in her lil tool set into such a position? i wonder why it wouldn't hurt to think about why jade would be forced into a role where one has to be sexual.

sarah is an extent of eden and eden is society and society will occasionally harp an odd sort of something masquerading as feminism to you that being sexual gives you power! but really it only serves to loop back into being for the man's enjoyment.

now i have to say that being sexual can be empowering! it really is! we just also have to acknowledge that in the eyes of society, sex is an exchange where it serves the man more than it does the woman. it still feels good to be sexual though, and being sexual can be used right for what you want.

but when it comes to jade, jade is forced to fall into this femme fatale role, this role that demands one to be a maneater, when she usually sticks to a more impersonal way of work. in this role, she dresses in clothes that she's not comfortable with wearing, when told to change from her usual outfit she is visibly uncomfortable, and overall it doesn't fit her.

she is not a sexual person. she does not typically utilise sexuality as a tool in her arsenal, she doesn't even seem to really touch it (or she's just insanely bad at flirting). either way, she's not used to being in this position because she does not choose to be in this position often.

anyways, why does sarah think to put the woman in a position where she would have to step out of her comfort zone? because obviously, she uses things and positions as tools, and sexuality is a tool.

now i want yall to bear with me as i compare sarah to another woman in media; makima. no im not calling sarah some god awful dommy mommy or some shit, i'm bringing in makima to highlight how sexuality is used. she uses her sexuality as a woman to entice this young boy into doing things for her, ranging from a kiss to assaulting him and telling him that she'll give him more as a reward. while not inherently sexual, she offers up a date with her to encourage the devil hybrids under her control. she even offers up a kiss at one point to encourage competition. makima, someone raised by the government and given tools that she uses to manipulate others, has sexuality in her arsenal. it is not a stretch to say that sarah, someone who has intimate understanding of the government, the ladder she climbs, has seen others use sexuality as a tool. hell, it might even be encouraged to use it as a tool. i'm absolutely not saying that sarah fucked her way to the top, im saying that sarah is aware that sexuality is a tool that one can use.

now we all know how sarah got to the top, which can be reasonably assumed to be through military rank and impersonal ways. ways that don't require one to lower your guard and take you in before they strike, like a femme fatale way would. sarah most likely got through to the top by using people and throwing just enough weight around. so why does she not allow jade to flourish in a way that honestly would benefit the team way better yeah no its because she sees her as a fucking tool in order to recognise jade's real talents she must first let go of the notion that she is a simple tool and accept that as a human she has legitimate strengths in unique areas and not just one where you can remind them who is in charge and how you are a tool and FUCK EDEN AND THEIR FUCKING TOOL MINDSET FUCKING CAPITALIST MINDSET IN A SO CALLED POST CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY!!!!! okay im getting a lil heated but yknow what let's continue FUCK PEY'J LOOK AT THIS SHIT

IM SO SORRY BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL FANS THEY DID YOU SO WRONG BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO FUCKING HAMMER IN THE IDEA OF JADE BEING A FIGURE AND NOT A PERSON EVEN IN DEATH SHE IS BOILED DOWN TO SOME FUCKASS WHO KNEW HER AS A BABY'S LOVE INTEREST AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY DID YALL WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they did yall so wrong my god. my god !! imagine! someone who knew you as a BABY openly admitted to you when you were a young adult in your 20s that he has feelings for you! what the hell! what purpose does this serve than to cement the idea that jade is a tool, a motive? jade, a goddamn REPORTER tryna spread light on a legitimate issue on society and then gets thrown into the Ghosts because of it, is boiled down to a tool. a fucking tool by both sarah and pey'j, TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEN by both show and fandom AS POSSIBLE LOVE INTERESTS FOR JADE.

SHE LITERALLY COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH MORE IF SARAH DID SEE HER AS HUMAN AND DID UTILISE HER ACTUAL TALENTS INSTEAD OF SEEING HER AS A TOOL AND FOR THAT JADE IS UNFORTUNATELY NOT SEEN AS A PERSON, BUT AS A FIGURE.

but yknow what. yknow who also has been seen as a figure and not a person.

dolph laserhawk. eden's child soldier that they raised as a paragon of hope fallen into disgrace.

yknow what also happens with dolph and jade? they treat each other as human. jade includes dolph in her lil vlogs as she does with the rest of the team, because she is a good person. dolph recognises that she is indeed a person, someone worth remembering as themselves. not as who she was to someone, but as someone who went out of her way to offer kindness. she gets a goddamn speaking role in his vr dream alongside alex, who yes groomed him, but he also made dolph feel human.

i didnt even realise it before that they put the only two people (that are. dead. bullfrog is not here for obvious reasons) that have made dolph feel human and not an extension of eden in one frame BUT THYE FUCKING DID. these mfs and dolph are basically real recognises real

this isn't about dolph though, this is about jade. jade, who didn't get to be shown to the world as a person, who posthumously became a figure for a man's revenge, who was put into a position she is not suited for because she was not recognised as human. jade, who is the most human out of the ghosts, who gave voice to those that couldn't through her work, who went into exposing pagan min because of her uncle, her family that she loved. for being the most grounded member, they had to kill you because you mattered so much. kept the team together through kindness. god they did you so wrong jade.

[nums-bird]

"Thank you for being the victim of my shallow emotions"what if I crash out.What if I genuinely lose my mind and end it all rn?

[artzychic27]

Juleka notices Luka not caring for his own mental health and immediately starts an intervention.

Luka: Guys, I’m fine.

Alya: You’re clearly not. Look how pale you are! When was the last time you’ve seen the sun?

Nathaniel: Yeah, I’m naturally pasty, so it’s fine. But, you? You’re clearly not taking care of yourself.

Luka: It’s just… Marinette-

Nino: Dude! Forget her! Does she care about your feelings?

Luka: … I mean-

Juleka: When has she ever given you free therapy?

Luka: …

Juleka: Exactly.

Marc: Just drop her, man. She’s screwed almost every main character over. I almost plummeted to my death because she erased my name!

Juleka: And she elbowed me out of my first photoshoot, getting me Akumatized.

Kim: *Boards the Liberty* And now I’m one of the asshole characters because the princess needed more sympathy points!

Myléne: This isn’t brought up a lot, but instead of attempting to help me out, she swooped in and stole my part in Nino’s movie.

Alya: And she stalks Adrien.

Adrien: What?

Marc: Yeah, she does that.

Rose: Like, a lot.

Nathaniel: I’ve seen her do it. It’s kinda scary.

Ivan: I have video evidence of her trying to scale the walls of your place.

Kim: Yeesh! I dodged a bullet with that prank.

Zoé: Oh, and she stole my backstory. Bugs in the locker? Come on!

Adrien: Wait! This is Luka’s intervention! Let’s get back on track!

Juleka: We still are. Look. *Points to the haunted expression on Luka’s face* Now he can stop worrying over Marinette and focus on himself.

Luka: … Why did I date that girl?

Juleka: There you go; we found a part of the root of your problems. Now let’s talk about the other deadbeat in your life.

[overlordneptune]

Y’ALLLLLL?!???????!?!??!?? SQUEALING RN

OK FIRST OFF IVAN WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS BRUV

SECOND OFF TILL DON’T JUST STABD THERE, NO TE DEJES MY BOY NO TE DEJES.

SO THAT WAS NOT THE HAPPY GAY ENDING WE WOULD’VE LIKED BUT WHEN HAS VIVINOS EVER GIVEN US THAT AND ALSO IVAN WAS FUCKING CREEPY FROM THE START SO IT’S OKAY

I’M JUST GLAD I GOT THE EXPECTED AMOUNT OF TRAGEDY, MAN.

THESE POOR POOR PEEPS

STUPID ALIENS

HATE THEM ALL ALSO I LOVEEEEEEEE IVAN’S VOICE

AND TILL SOUNDS SO LOST

DAMN.

ALSO I WANT THEIR COOL CLEAR MICROPHONES

[marcmarcmomarc]

Miraculous

Chapter 10: Adrien’s Plan

(Morning. Marinette leaves Marriott’s Grande Vista and grabs her phone.)

MARINETTE: Hey, Ms. TK. Where are you?

LUNA-TK: (OVER PHONE) At the intersection down the street. We’ve invited you to see the worlds of the others.

MARINETTE: Absolutely. I’m walking out right now.

(In Adrien’s villa, the group does their morning routines: having breakfast, brushing their teeth, doing their hair, etc. Adrien returns.)

ADRIEN: Okay. I spent all morning thinking of a new way to bring Marinette back. We present her favorite hobbies to show her that we do care. My hope isn’t that high, but it’s worth a try. Markov, where is she?

MARKOV: She is leaving with Ms. Luna-TK. They plan to visit the worlds of her new friends. They are not from this dimension, though.

ADRIEN: Okay. We can’t follow them through.

ROSE: Why is that?

ALIX: I’d guess it’s because they’d probably trap us in their dimension by closing off our way back.

KIM: So we just wait around for her to leave?

CHLOÉ: That could take all day.

ALYA: Well, I guess it is worth it.

IVAN: Waiting or going in?

JULEKA: I think they mean waiting.

ADRIEN: Right. We find out when she’s coming back and enact our plan.

TRAVEL GROUP: Okay…Yeah…Alright…Sure.

[sparklywatercolors]

Thinking about my baby :(((

[teamivankaye]

Naughty little Vikings commentary clip because I was in a mood. 👑 Don't get me wrong, I outright ADORE what Ivan has done with King Aelle and wouldn't want to miss his heartbreaking performance that overrode the huge storytelling flaws. He somehow managed to make this sudden and complete break of character with no lead-up or explanation whatsoever still look genuine and deeply touching.

I just dislike that they withheld any scenes from us in between that would've shown how this was even possible as it insults the intelligence of the audience and also deprived us of the profound experience of fully grasping and relating to the tragic dimension of King Aelle's character.

And I strongly dislike that such a shattering and gruesome end to a life of thorough integrity despite all adversities and a deeply moving struggle with spiritual uncertainty was presented in a way that invited gloating mockery, hence undermined any respect for King Aelle's heroic sacrifice, his virtues and good intentions and even for his suffering and agony.

King Aelle deserved better, we as the audience deserved better, and Ivan deserved better for all the love and care and thought and work he had put into his character - and for all the opportunities he had to let pass while bound by this contract. The range of his performances in this show, not least in this episode, shows what Ivan is truly capable of doing. He deserved not to be wasted just to fix conceptual flaws within a few minutes of screentime, but to be given the space to show us the compelling depths and layers of his character much more elaborately. Above all, he deserved his vision to be heard, his input to be considered, accomplished and experienced an actor as he is, and the end of his character, teased and highly anticipated from season 1 onwards, to be portrayed with due care and without haste.

If you've read this far, thank you!

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[satineainsel]

Our favorite Heartrender husbands drink cocoa on a cold winter’s day.

Inspired by True North, set in the same universe between the Chapters 21 & 22 (because I have not watched S2 yet) but not necessary to read that to understand. It's hot chocolate fluff.