#its not homestuck related doe LOL

[allergic-to-fruits]

the davekat comic is gonna come out day 10 this month !! heres some more snippets from it !

[mystreet-liveblog]

Its not even the voices Aphmau needed to do in early seasons. I just have troubles where I take shows really seriously, so the no warning / no consent kissing or the people trying to find out everything about Aphmau's love life is just frustrating for me.

Autistic people taking things too seriously, what else is new?

I hear that, I too have the “tism”

But on the rewatch I kind of read it differently. It makes sense that Aph’s friends would be concerned about her love life since she hasn’t been interested in anyone since high school, her mom is notorious for hating boys, and half her male friends have crushes on her and she doesn’t reciprocate any of them. It’s an interesting situation and I know I’d be concerned, especially if I was Katelyn or KC

Katelyn sees Aph as a sister and knows that she’s had bad experiences with boys in the past (Gene and Ein, though I haven’t gotten to Ein in the rewatch yet so I may be misremembering some details) so of course she’d be suspicious of Laurance and the others across the street, Aaron who’s super suspicious and used to be a bully, and Zane who is literally Zane hahah

Meanwhile, KC is obsessed with shipping and she stands as an outlier who actively analyzes relationships and pairs them together in her mind as possible relationships, with her favorites being expressed more openly and verbally like a hyperfixation. It’s problematic but also not unheard of, and I can relate to analyzing your friends and deducing their compatibility (though not so much pressuring them into pursuing that compatibility :/). In the end she just wants to see all her friends happy, and she projects her own love of romantic love onto them

(KC actually reminds me a bit of Nepeta from Homestuck but that’s a conversation for a different day)

I do think the lack of consent coming from Laurance and his roommates is very weird and disturbing, but the conscious narrative seems aware that it’s problematic while the subconscious narrative plays it off as a joke. It’s not really that funny, but I guess that’s just part of the anime tropiness of the season.

The entire show, or at least the first seasons of MyStreet and PDH, was made to feel anime tropey and unfortunately that kind of nonconsensual humor is very anime. It’s a little nuanced tho that the rest of the show explores the “after they get together” situations rarely seen in romance anime, though, as well as abandoning the nonconsensual humor in favor of villainizing it and using it to characterize antagonists (sorry Laurance fans your fav is problematic <3)

I actually kind of realized through my rewatch that Laurance was the main instigator of these inappropriate actions and it’s really his own problem to work through. The rest follow him with the frat boy mindset and only come to their senses when actually thinking on their own lol

Like, I remember as a kid there being so many jokes about Travis touching peoples butts, but as far as I remember from my rewatch they were all accidents! That’s kind of funny actually! But the normalization of predatory behavior is very weird in S1 and I’m glad it’s gone in S2

In PDH S1, it’s only slightly justified by the students all being literal children who are working through their hormones and poor coping mechanisms. Both Laurance and Garroth kiss Aphmau without her consent and then swear her to secrecy, which is toxic as hell and its protrayed as such. Gene even threatens to kiss her in front of Aaron which is a whole other thing we don’t need to discuss at length cause I’m sure you get the point by now

But PDH-Aaron notably asks permission every time he does anything romantic with Aph and it’s sweet. In S1 of MyStreet, he does kiss her after the play without verbal consent, but it’s implied she did at least nonverbally consent in later episodes when discussing what happened. Regardless, that sort of content in S1 isn’t touched upon as the story goes on which makes it a lot better to me, and it shows the growth of the author alongside her characters

WOAH— SORRY FOR THE LONG RESPONSE!!!! I just found this topic interesting!!!! Hope you have fun reading this MOUNTAIN wow—

[controversial-blorbo-bracket]

id like to weigh in on those two asks re: (vriska) and meenah and vriska's arc

1. i dont think hussie know how old any of his characters are

2. (vriska) developing into someone who is nice and chill and is not driven to always be the most important wasnt "becoming a good character" it was "finishing a character arc and then becoming less prominent in the story because that's what happens when you finish a character arc"

3. vriska coming back saying "lol pussy" and being herself and being Important To The Ending is, in fact, an important part of her character arc as the thief of light. vriska was told ok your time in the spotlight is over, your story is done and now you can become a kinder more balanced person offscreen bc you are no longer being used by the narrative to further its own goals and vriska said lol you THOUGHT and stole that spotlight right back to be important. the fact that vriska is so important is a direct result of her being the thief of life and that dictating her story

4. some clarity regarding the thief of lufe stuff for u: hs has a symbol system of aspects and classes which when combined refer to a particular direction a character's story arc can take. aspects are a collection of ideas symbols and metaphors, while class dictates how you relate to them. vriska's aspect of light is the aspect of fortune and knowledge but also quite literally the narrative spotlight. (someone did a statistical analysis and light players have more words of dialogue than any other aspect by a good fuckin bit.) thieves, then, steal their aspect for themselves; this is their character struggle and character arc. vriska's whole thing is needing to be the most important and relevant, and she does. now you may be thinking, that dossnt seem very healthy! and youre right! but classpects arent about reaching your best self. they are about being who you need to be so the story can come to completion. a person whose character arc is refusing to change or becoming worse is not a poorly written character; they are just a character whose story is about that. if the bad guy becomes a good person offscreen after the movie is over, thats not a character arc. thats you imagining something that might happen after the events of the deliberately constructed story you watched that was written that way for a reason

anyway. the biggest problem with vriscourse is that no one in it understands media analysis god bless. to be fair hussie ecourages this behavior. but despite the yellow guy in the neverending story attic*, homestuck was written by a person who did it on purpose, and none of it is real

*hussie (homestuck character and in-universe writer of homestuck, as distinct from andrew hussie real human author of homestuck) first shows up in the comic in an attic from the neverending story. hes yellow

[thewertsearch]

Asks Comp 13/4

I think he's behind that door. The platform bears his symbol, and it's his final chance to show up in-game.

The best theory I have is that Bilious Slick is the god of Sgrub, and he only appears to a party of Players who have truly proven themselves. Given that Sgrub's endgame involves the creation of a universe, his role probably relates to this in some way.

Maybe he's the one who grants the Players the 'seed' - or whatever else is mechanically required to alchemize a universe.

The thought has occurred to me, too! I've been skimming some old posts while writing asks, and a couple of things have stood out to me.

We still don't know who the pen pal is. I'm still convinced he has something to do with Grandpa Harley, and my best guess is that he's someone who contains Grandpa as an alchemical component.

The session monitor in Skaianet's lab has a new meaning now. Every single one of those sessions could spawn a universe. And it's been implied that every planet with intelligent life will eventually spawn Sburb sessions. If you do the maths, it's clear that each universe should spawn billions of sessions. Just how many 'children' does each universe produce?

Ooh, yes, let's think about the implications of all this on my 'sonas!

If we assume that the kidsona was on comic-canon Earth, then she's in the universe created by the Zodiac trolls. The universe that she and the trollsona could create could be a completely new one!

...that is, if they create a universe at all. There's nothing saying you have to use that grist on a universe, and they might have other plans...

I was actually thinking about Tinkers when I made that post!

I read Worm a couple of years ago. In retrospect, it would also have made pretty good liveblogging material, although probably not quite as good as Homestuck. There's some great stuff in Worm, but a lot of what I really like about it doesn't show up until close to the end.

I initially assumed that the Psychic Double Reacharound was a contingency plan that she'd prepared earlier, since she couldn't possibly have come up with something so elaborate in the heat of the moment, while bleeding out on the ground.

But then I remembered she came up with the Sollux/Mind Honey plan seemingly on the spot, and now I'm not so sure. God damn, Vriska.

This is genuinely super flattering. I hope the inconsistency isn't too much of an issue - and, yes, I note the irony of saying this immediately after a four-month hiatus!

If was clear from early on that things in Homestuck weren't always what they seemed. Hell, sometimes they're not even what we're shown.

We have to assume some of what we're being told is true, or else we wouldn't have a story - but we always have to remember who's telling the story.

[Lol I love this fic. lots of **GIANT** spoilers tho, just because of the nature of the fic. For example, big ones starting at 16, 55 and 57 - C]

Recommended, and does apparently contain spoilers - but this is one I'm particularly looking forward to.

It's kind of a funny question, isn't it?

From Davesprite's perspective, he did change the future - his future. John died, but he 'changed things' - and now John's alive, even though he was dead 'before'.

But if you zoom out a little, you can see that this change was predetermined by the Alpha Timeline, which always depended on these events. Davesprite changed the first-order future - but the meta-future was always set in stone.

The Medium's timeline is so weird, isn't it? Its retroactive existence is difficult to puzzle out.

I don't think you could see the history of your Land by travelling back before you entered. All physical evidence of that history is there, but it's generated in a single instance when you Enter, and can't be accessed. It's analogous to read-only-memory.

After all, John, Rose and Dave are in the past with respect to LOJADE, but they're never going to see its 'history' - and Jade's Entry isn't going to insert it into the Medium retroactively. It won't have been 'there all along' when John was flying around earlier on his jetpack - it'll only ever have been there from Jade's Entry onwards.

As for getting into Earth's past, I think Karkat had it right, when he described the kids' original universe as 'a set of points to choose from'. You can't get into Earth's past by time-travelling around the Medium, but that doesn't really matter, since you can open portals into any point in its history, as long as you have the gear.

They're fascinating questions, aren't they?

Pre-Exile, she was the Tradition Wrangler - a Prospitian lawyer who struggled to interpret the Medium's archaic laws!

DD is a man of action, and I'm sure he approves of any Player who acts decisively themselves.

Plus, I'm sure he can emphasize with Aradia's situation. After all, it sucks to be bossed around by someone whose motivations make no goddamn sense half the time.

Common Terezi W.

True - she didn't need to hold her there for long. The laser pointer thing is a better analogy, blinding her almost instantly. I don't think it's any less fucked-up - it's more like a different flavor of fucked-up.

That's a pretty impressive robotics feat for Equius, actually. I wonder what Aradiabot is actually made of?

Tracing the source of alchemy gear is one of my favorite Homestuck 'minigames'.

Hivebent's art is fantastic! I really see why the comic blew up around this time. It's really coming into its own, stylistically. Of particular note is the art of Make Her Pay, and the art accompanying Aradia's final monologue. I can't wait to see more!

Gamzee is just too high to be rendered in a less symbolic manner.

Sollux is broken, and probably another mutant. The Sgrub trolls don't seem surprised by his level of power - but considering their circle includes other absurd espers like Aradia and Vriska, they probably aren't the best people to ask about what's normal.

Damn, I wish we could have seen more of Alternia. I know some of the spin-offs dig into this, but I hope we get more in canon, too.

Terezi's dream self is blind, because that's the version of herself she identifies most with. There's very little doubt in my mind that your dream self would reflect your self-perception in other ways, too. Skaia is clearly an ally - thank you, king.

You could imagine a Player whose dream self changes after they realize - or conversely, a Player whose dream self cracked their eggy loking thign. I'd be surprised if there weren't many fanfictions where this is a plot point - and depending on how things shake out in the comic itself, I'm not ruling it out.

In asking about magic, Kanaya really does start to sound like the young child that she is. It's easy to forget, but heartbreaking when you remember.

A few people have talked about this, so I added all of my 'immediate reaction' posts to the liveblog tag! I think it got them all - other than LOLCAT, which I missed and will add now - but if there are others, let me know!

I guess Matespritship isn't explicitly described in terms of romantic love. It's described as a close analogue of human romance, which is 'rooted in strongly positive emotions'. I've been assuming, based on that, that Red Romance is effectively interchangeable with the human concept of romantic love - but I suppose that's not necessarily the case.

I do think you're hitting on a very good point, here, too, which is that the quadrant system itself is described as something that trolls need. I think the 'need' for these categories is enforced, artificially, for the benefit of the Empire. It wouldn't be the first institution to pull something like this.

Either way, it'll be interesting to see how the troll/human ships end up shaking out. It's going to be a challenge to merge their respective relationship frameworks. The best solution, of course, is for them to experience their own relationships without any cultural baggage, but I don't think I'm just speaking for myself when I say that that's easier said than done!

[nonbinarygamzee]

idk i think insisting, when people talk about gamzees characterization through the lens of a child denied autonomy, that what was going on Wasnt mind control or coercion in preference of insisting its all about revelation of their role as their own prophet is kind of myopic. it feeds off of the assumption people are ignoring that aspect rather than saying that in a situation where the very reality of the world and circumstances gamzee was born into were constructed to assure the propagation of that self forming paradox, what is considered "autonomous" becomes very blurry, even aside from knowing LE is quite literally a stand-in for (colonial, patriarchal, etc) oppression. gamzees religious views are not an unrelated problem that form the consequence, they are a tool to ensure the progression of power and dominion. homestuck has many iterations of characters becoming aware of their own space within a narrative, and gamzees breakdown is a culmination of many things, not the least of which being that realization. with it, the knowledge that the role they are set to play as a plot device is wholly necessary for the revolution of the narrative regardless of what they may want or how it will make people see them. if there is no gamzee to ensure the validity of the alpha timeline there was simply no homestuck and they do not do not have the resources to want or care beyond that. to me if the whole takeaway of gamzees mental breakdown is solely what they say to karkat whilst attempting to get a rise out of him/beg for help in active crisis then idk.... try looking at a story beyond what the (compromised) cast say directly? or dont its your choice but! boring!

more than all of that though i think its just kind of mean. i do not value what is necessarily "objective" about a story because a story is valuable far beyond authorial intent and that goes tenfold for a story that holds a deep resentment for its audience crafted through the lens of a guy who up until like 2014 or so was profitting off of how funny open "ironic" bigotry and being mean was (and then continued to do so, just arguably more covertly). theres so much more value to me in what people who relate to a lonely child with addiction issues and a friendgroup that almost exclusively openly berated or ignored them coming into contact with the adult figure of violence and suppression have to say about all of it. idk its strange that as someone whos felt very much barred from "fandom" that i have to sit here and defend "fanon" interpretation because so many people buy into the intellectual superiority hussie sells to you like he does not resent all of you the same way he does everyone else lol

[sickknotdoom]

In a another post you said stuff abt Carroom and i just wanna add; ive begrudgingly accepted it, especially since Blair is one of my favorite Cometkids, but i still dont... actively like it. Especially in the kisswas comic where it was revealed Caroline "liked Doom before Uni even considered it" and it just? I don't know because in the main comic and basically everything before cometcare she was shown actively hating and mocking him. I liked the disagreement between Uni and Caroline in kisswas where she was supposedly uncomfortable because he was a serial killer! Caroline also seems heavily bpdcoded (i have bpd myself so i heavily sympathize with her) and the entire conflict of Uni dating a murderer was interesting! But it felt kinda washed away when she SUDDENLY has a crush on him out of nowhere? AND BEFORE UNI CONSIDERED IT? Wouldn't it make more sense if it was after, since Uni would be there to show her that he does have a good side? I don't know Carroom just feels weird but again i guess i just have to live with it lol

does the whole "i liked him before you even considered it" thing even make sense chronologically? i remember somewhere on the blog stating doom and uni were exes prior to uni getting admitted to the hospital. i likely also have borderline personality disorder and i imagine doom may have it, but maybe im projecting. and from what i can tell, the two fucking hate eachother.

the kisswas/kissmas/kismesis/whatever christmas comic wouldve been decent enough if caroline was like. "i dont want my partner dating a serial killer/inviting a serial killer over to the house" since that would fall more in line with her personality exhibited in the actual comic. and also it wouldnt make sense for her to like doom before his "good side" is revealed, would it? because all she would know is that doom is a serial killer that worked at the hospital that traumatized her and many close to her. i feel like theyre trying to bruteforce every ship theyve conjured up at 2am one night.

speaking of which, i feel like doom giving caroline a smiley face necklace is sorta a dick move since yknow. its resembling the face on her hospital mask. wouldnt it be sorta triggering to her, especially since hes former hospital staff and giving it to a former patient?

but to be fair after having puke dumped on my head i would definitely try to find a way to get back, just my beautiful princess disorder yknow. speaking of which, are we all forgetting this is the same man she Dumped An Entire Bucket Of Barrys Fresh Disgusting Vomit On

i will never not bring this up. caroline despises doom. theyd be kismeses at best, but theyre not trolls soooooooo (yes everything cycles back to my homestuck brain rot) i feel like them having any positive relations would be extremely flawed writing.

in conclusion, #I Think The Clowns Need To Reassess Whats Consistent To The Story Here 👁️_👁️. (only my most obsessed haters understand that reference)

[selamat-linting]

i've been postponing my homestuck read for days now, focusing on other work and stuff. it was only yesterday that i stop doing my little break. here's my thoughts :

-post scratch world are fascinating. everyone is 15 and the parents are now the kids and vice versa. it seems like a mix between alternia and earth! Lusus exists but concentrated on jake's island, i've seen a lot of callbacks to earlier dialogues and certain troll only things like the quadrants being mentioned, and im pretty sure the rival baking empire was headed by the troll empress who found her planet destroyed.

-anyway, the parents?!!?!?! theyre now the kids? how does that work? dirk and roxy did mention their parents are dead so maybe the sburb alpha version of dave and rose just isnt in the picture but man i wanna see i wanna i wanna see. and now everything i know about the alpha kids makes me want to go back and look back on the beta kids interaction with their parents to go Hmmmmmmmmmmm

-that being said it would be extra screwy is the alpha guardians (grown up beta kids) are actually still alive theyre just absent cunts so the alpha kids resent them and believe the real ones are dead. Oh roxy, just wait until you see your child / mother.

-my thoughts on jane crocker : heartbreaking. the AU version of your favorite beta kid is a billionare 😭. to be fair all of them becomes rich kids in this alpha timeline lol. Okay jokes aside, im very concerned for her and use of crocker tech. Im with dirk and roxy on this. She's a pretty pleasant fellow though. Most normal person out of the crew. There is something very sad about them. Like, they dont get to have a semblance of a normal life or even participate in society for reasons related to the game before the game even arrived. Theyre prepped for this one grand adventure only and its more traumatizing than actually fun. if they won, the world still ends.

-roxy is so. she reminds me of my neighbors' kid who bragged about drinking CT (a local very strong alcoholic drink) but a girl genius. im just fascinated in general. a rogue of void? sleepwalking? owns many cats? she would have been a popular wizardposter on tumblr. i can tell her favorite banned wizard council spell is greater baja blast.

-but mostly im interested in the areas she sleepwalked in. im pretty sure i saw dead dreamself terezi or nepeta and karkat with a knight of blood godtier outfit but no eyes, indicating he's dead. and ofc gamzee and equius but he's still alive. wait he's wearing glasses so i have no idea. I thought this is one of those dream bubbles thing but im even more weirded out with dead godtier karkat. is the void is more of a place for abandoned possibilities? or did i just mistook things over here? rose was there but somehow thats to be expected. she's trying to awaken roxy right? what will roxy do with her access to the void? what will she stole from the depths of the abyss?

-and dirk. wonder what he finally saw at the skies of derse. he's the prince of heart right? the only heart player i know is nepeta and we never really see her powers in action. i cant wait to see whats in store for him. also, he's actually gay? AND A BRONY???? A BRONY??? i mean yea he fucking love puppets but we knew that since act 1. i have no idea how he became friends with everybody like he cares but he's also abrasive as hell to everyone, esp when he likes the guy a LOT. im so sorry for jake.

-jake is a lot more naive than john. which is saying something. and an accomplishment because he's like constantly hunted by literal monsters and death robots. everyday he's fighting demons barehanded but stay silly. i wonder how jade and jake could even get to know each other like, theyre not even in the same timeline.

-and UU. who the fuck are they? is it lord english minions trapping the kids? or what here? They look nice and cheerful but im very skeptical here. couldnt wait to see more of them

[starfilled-galaxy]

WHA- WHY AM I GETTING HOMESTUCK STUFF ON MY YT RECCOMMENDED? DOES IT KNOW IM FOLLOWING A HOMESTUCK FAN ON TUMBLR HUH 😭

not upset just VERY confused outside of tumblr (and discord now ig lol) i have not touched anything homestuck related before so how does it know- OH

ITS CUZ I TOOK THE QUIZ THING AND ITS TAKING FROM MY WEB HISTORY

[nutzworth]

putting this under read more cus its alpha kids family/relationship/incest discussion and mostly word vomit and none of these words are in the bible. so i dont know. im not subjecting you to that if you dont want to see it lol

saw someone on twitter (im kind of asking for it by being on twitter but whatever) compare the strilonde's and the harleybert's sibling relationships to jane and jake's relationship. saying that jane and jake have a sibling relationship. and another guy i follow and respect was dissing on it but im just thinking about that og guy. what? was bro thinking?

like i understand the passive acceptance of incest in homestuck as its a thing homestuck does often (to the dismay of many. usually its a joke though. USUally...). but jane and jake?... they are SO cousins. they are not siblings at all. same with dirk and roxy. the alphas arent really related at all other than vague adoption but if they ARE family those pairs are cousins. theyre like friends that happen to be related not siblings.... i dont HAVE siblings so i cant really say anything but i know what having a cousin youre close to is like and that feels more jane/jake dirk/roxy than it does rose/dave or june/jade. you know.

the topic of alpha crushes and incest and what have you is always a debated idea but like they really arent related. the thing i keep thinking about when i think about the topic is like... if your parents in another timeline didnt know each other and you thought it was messed up if they dated, because theyre a part of the same family in the future where youre from. it FEELS wrong in the scope of the alphaverse but thats what it IS. but obviously cus of the different timeline your parents are different and wouldn't work in a relationship like that cus of other reasons. like personality conflicts. that doesnt stop your parents from potentially being good friends, and if they dated, they wouldnt be incest or whatever (cus they dont share dna and dont see each other like that). but they SHOULD stay as friends only. cus they would be super unhappy in a relationship with one another.

most longwinded metaphor in the world. i think a LOT about the alpha kids and their relationships (love or not) with each other. it like makes me crazy. dirkjane is something i think about a LOT. its just so stupid hahahaha not only is dirk a gay man jane is just straight up not interested. its hilarious to see that kind of thing. jakeroxy also is hilarious cus theyre SO friends its insane. theres no possible way you can construe their relationship in such a lovey way. theyre just not interested

i could talk for miles and miles about ships and my thoughts on them but i really shouldnt put that kind of thing on tumblr. basically im super judgmental about ships and i really should work on myself to stop being like that. but its fandom so who really cares not like im ragging on people to their faces or backhandedly i just sour at the thought of dirkjohn

[identityarchitect]

I DIDNT NOTICE U ASKED ME ABT LAYREN. idk how long ago that was but im here now. as the guy who made layren i am his number 1 fan so i love talking about him etc etc.

okok so. i dont think i said it but hes actualyl a vast error fantroll and not a homestuck one. he lives in the forest (no camping equipment hes just rawdogging it out there) and does improv with people passing through becuase he thinks its funny. also valtel (canon character if udk ve) lives out there and layren terrorizes him constantly because. mysterious reasons,

u see how his hands fade to black. thats necrosis or whatever its called. hes dying out there. probably. whether or not hes already a ghost is unclear. he does "die" at some point but hes just missing forever no one finds a body.

the reason hes all cold is because his ability lets him control temperature but he doesnt actually like. use it much. it kinda does its own thing (relatively emotion related) and he doesnt pay attention to it. it usually makes everything cold.

if u cant tell i know about as much abt him as anyone else does. originally i kept stuff mysterious and confusing because he was just a mysterious and confusing guy but tbh i dont really know either

i have like 10k more in wips but this is the only writing i have w him LOL. at some point he became the guy i use to do whatever the opposite of selfshipping is (he is soley an annoyance to secily). i have slightly more lore of him that no one knows except my brain but i feel like ive talked so much abt him already ^^' srry for autisming and all that

HELL YEAH THANK YOU FOR AUTISMING

[cure-typhoon]

Okey this one's pretty easy

Favorite Character: I almost started Character with a K, SO yeh, it's Karkat, it's him, it will always be him, i been stuck on a loop of going into Homestuck and Precure as my main interest for years and Karkat and Nagisa Misumi will always be my favorites blorbos, the little green worm in an apple, the meat to a taco, the i'm out of phrases to compare this, so anyway

Karkat's character in general fascinates me, i'm a sucker for any friend related story, so having a character whose whole Aspect is Friendship and Relationship is chef's kiss. Also the whole, angst around his fucking existence, the fact that he is a fucking idiot, i love him

Also look at him, so dumb

Less favorite character: Is also kinda obvious because i have mentioned it before but it's Dave, it's less of a "Oh, i hate him" because i dont feel like that for any of the cast, but its more of a "I dont give a shit about him" he is boring to me hdakje

Like, he is not a bad character, but it's both a combination of Fandom and Canon stuff that makes me

In fanon, his character EATS the personality of any of the cast that is around him, makes Rose the wise lesbian who gives him advise about dating, makes Karkat the Perfect Boyfriend who Kisses his trauma away, Kanaya is also in the same boot as Rose, Vriska gets saved but she is fucking Vriska, he tends to just eat the Spotlight of anything when he is there, he suffers and everyone around him suddenly doesnt have any problems themselfs

And this isnt his fault, like this is fanon stuff, which would be fine if I care for his character but

I don't find him nearly as entertaining as everyone else does lol, I don't think he is that funny, his chats annoy me at worst and leaves me confused at Best because i don't understand his references, he can be funny but like, most of the time he isnt for me and the other times he is rambling so much it's like, what are u even talking about

And i know is ironic considering Karkat is My favorite, but there's something about Dave's way of writting that bothers the shit out of me lol which is probably why i kinda left Davekat as my main ship because if you only care about one of the two, why even ship it lol

Ask/Send me anything about Homestuck, I'm going to be in the dentist for a couple of hours waiting and I am bored

[nimsabeef]

davekat isn't a bad couple, actually

okay, i am bored and sleep deprived and i just went through @davekat-sucks's blog. this is a recipe for disaster. sigh. hope you don't mind me doing this ms. davekat sucks, its just that some of your takes were so frigid i just couldn't bring myself to ignore them. various thoughts under the cut

first off, id like to say that this not an attempt to blame you for making this blog, or for disliking davekat. you can ship whatever the fuck you want and express your opinion however you like. i actually really appreciate the courage. fuck yeah, go against the status quo. post about a controversial topic. fandom would be boring without people like you. but the thing is, your takes are so cold bestie. they are straight up frigid. i am so sorry but the sight of them got me freezing and shaking uncontrollably

why do you base so much of your criticism around hs2 and the epilogues whilst simultaneously claiming they're badly written and shouldn’t be canon? YES their characterisations were fucked in post-canon. that's the case for most characters!! it's kind of hypocritical to use post-canon as a basis to bash davekat and then turn around and completely disregard that when it comes to pairings like roxygen or rosemary. guess what! they were fucked over by post-canon too! and yet you're not going around claiming that johnroxy sucks, even though john basically abandoned roxy and cheated on her. you're not going around claiming rosemary is a horrible pairing because of the yiffy fiasco in homestuck 2. and you still like those ships. so do i!!

hs2 turned davekat into some kind of fanservice generator and robbed dave and karkat of most of their personalities, i agree. but that's because hs2 fucking sucks. they did that for most of the character anyway. why does it only matter to you when it's davekat? much to think about.

so yeah. im not going to address the criticism pertaining to the epilogues and beyond. im not defending them

another thing you keep bringing up is dave hating quadrants which, jesus fucking christ. it makes me doubt you have any reading comprehension skills. the label felt alien to him, yes. he initially rejected the concept because it seemed weird and off-putting, probably, and that's normal. most of the kids thought troll culture was weird at first. and! he didn't break up with terezi because he hated quadrants! he just doesn't like the polygamous aspect of it.

but let's suppose for the sake of argument that he actually, canonically, hates quadrants. what would that even mean? would that imply he would never get into a relationship with a troll, seeing as those would technically be quadrants? or that he doesn't feel any kind of quadrant-related romantic attraction? both of these were proven wrong by canon because: 1) he willingly got into a matespritship with terezi 2) humans can feel pale, pitch, and red attraction; they just label it differently. karkat elaborates on that in a conversation with john, probably around act6 act5. and davekat doesnt even fall squarely under any quadrant, so this is all pointless lol

one other point you brought up was that as soon as they got close to one another on the meteor, they stopped being active in the plot and disregarded all of the issues their friends were dealing with, proving that their relationship was lazy writing which caused their development to stagnate. this is a good point! but when you look into it, that's not really what happened.

the beta kids and the surviving trolls all began blending into the background during act 6 as the story began focusing on the alpha kids. most of them were sitting around, not particularly doing anything relevant, because there was nothing relevant to be done except for waiting. like kanaya, or davesprite, for example.

you mention that it was ooc for dave and karkat not to help terezi while she was getting abused. the thing is, terezi tried to keep her relationship with gamzee under wraps. she didn't really succeed at that, but people still didn't know exactly what was going on with them at first. karkat wasn't even told about it. he didn't even know she was dating gamzee up until very late into the trip. dave had just broken up with her and didn't know much about troll quadrants by that point, so he probably just thought it was all kismesis shit and didn't want to intrude. again, if he had known what was really going on, he probably would have intervened, but he only had a vague idea about it since terezi wasn't open about her relationship with gamzee. that is, up until the very end of the trip, and by that point dave and karkat WERE trying to encourage her.

you mention that they also didn't help rose with her addiction, but dave was trying! he spent a whole scene trying to get her to drink less! (the one right before the rosemary kiss)

but the thing is. most of the meteor shenanigans happened off screen, so we're not certain of anything. but again, for the sake of argument, let's assume they actually weren't even trying to help their friends. why would that matter? why would the fact that they weren't rushing to fix all of their friends emotional issues have any impact on their feelings for each other? they're traumatised teenagers, they make mistakes! theyre flawed characters!

kanaya didnt try to help terezi with the gamzee situation either. she didnt try to contact the ship either. instead, she spent most of her time with rose. does that make rosemary a horrible pairing? is it ooc for rose and kanaya? from what i've seen, this doesnt seem to be your opinion on the subject.

yeah that’s basically it. you don’t need to respond, but a response would be welcome. thank you for reading!

[alligaytorswamp]

OC ASK MEME SMACKS HANDS ON DESK. 1 THROUGH 6 >:))))

1. Your first OC ever?

uhhh... this god damn kimty...

(can't credit the artist because i literally do not remember who's drawn it it's been like 8-9 years pls forgive me)

his name was... scouly? skouly???? idk lol

anyways he was a token kitty oc for someone in a warrior cats fandom (he was not used for any rps tho.. he was just a personal oc)

then he became a fucking fantroll (yes my next stage was homestuck) alskdjkalsjdlk

good for him... he had the wildest developments, had multiple versions of himself, all sorts of relationships and backgrounds... i also then made him an ace transman which was not a foreshadowing to anything :)

2. Do you have a personal favourite among your OCs?

as i said before sparkles have a lot of my love

but if i had to go into more details with my favs for each oc group:

sparkles - rn sora gets more attention because i sort of developed her family which is super fun to think about

lp - kenshin is just winning in life a lot i can't stop thinking about this smug bastard

tdf - probably yejoon just bc he has more artworks than others

ul - kaede... she's my token scary girl :(

3. Have you ever adopted a character or gotten a character from someone else?

only one time and it was simone

credit: leonesbones

i did change his design quite a bit akldjkasljdkl

4. A character you rarely talk about?

as i said before - solo ocs and dead ones lmao

5. If you could make only one of your OCs popular/known, who would it be?

sparkles :p

6. Two OCs of yours that look alike despite not being related?

oh god

it's these two

short gay people, main color - purple, are idols/performers in some way, can sing and dance, can rap too!!, very good at networking/making connections/etc, are popular, gender non conforming, into fashion (in differents ways tho), know a lot about their industry, into online drama, somehow relate to anime (1 - being a seiyuu, 2 - just a big fan), token animal/animal association - cat

i have no idea how i managed to fuck up this hard but besides these incredible points they're fairly different people.. just... the same "trope" i guess asdjlaksjdklsa

also its far more funny considering that katsumi who has obvious similarities to kenshin is in a group with his actual daughter who does not look anything like him (she is adopted but still) it's so fukcing funny

Some OC questions

[weenie-kun]

How does one grow a big tumblr? I barely have any followers and I’ve been here for years now... I never even received an ask

i dunno man i only drew lotsa fanart for some fandoms at the time (thanks homestuck danganronpa dmmd tf2 dtmg and mettaton) and maybe the rare few posts that popped off got ppl coming.. (plus the doodle ones with daddys bastard, relatable artist posts tm, and the recent anesthesia one) (and one time the one danganronpa/homestuck crossover art with aoi and feferi where ppl widely mistook aoi for jade.. 14k notes. u do not see these numbers here anymore)

i also rb shitposts a lot so ig it just happened? i havent gained any in a couple yrs now since i went inactive w art and tbh its pretty true that numbers dont do a lot here lol..

i barely get asks some months But i dont really interact with people either? i have energy some days and then leave a few unanswered in the dirt when i have no energy like any person... but ive seen them i prommy

( i do notice some familiars around whove liked my stuff tho.. even through the years. even my oc. thank u i love u ⭐theres a lot more of u than i could have thought and thats pretty cool i think. i think thats really neat)

ive been here almost a decade now so. theres that. a lot of the time its unpredictable and post purge idk how the climate is here. also someone called me a The joker so maybe im just the right amount of deranged to attract people <3 ew that hurt to type.

anyway good luck out there. i dont know what the path to tumblr success is, and sorry to everyone for the long post for i have been given the chance to reflect on my time here. im the same turd as i was back then except more tired and people are intimidated of me occasionally because my art dick is kinda big now so thats funny

ok im done take care and have a good day

[calicorn]

My experience with WeLoveFine/ForFansByFans as an artist.

This in regards to the Act 6/7 Tarot Project, which occurred from 2017 to 2018. I also want to thank @aryll for the chance to participate in such a project, and thank you for doing what you could with the group and what occurred. I realize this is a few years late, however, but it’s been bothering me ever since it occurred, and I only chose to speak my mind about it. But to summarize, the project started out as unofficial, however we were approached by FFBF in February of 2018. They were willing to sell the deck as official merchandise on their store. I have my own opinions on the company, as it’s known they underpay artists severely for their work despite selling most items for extremely high prices. A similar payment issue occurred with the Official Homestuck Zine, and one of the artists of the Tarot Project posted this in the comments:     “Can relate OP. I did work for the new tarot deck (using my throwaway account for that reason lol) but we aren’t being paid at all. No money. The only compensation we are getting is a free deck and an exclusive enamel pin which is pennies compared to what they’ll be making off us. One might argue that the project wasn’t supposed to be printed so I should be grateful it’s even happening but I expected a big company like WLF to y’know, pay artists... The only reason I agreed to letting them use my art was to get a free deck. I also honestly dislike WLF’s artist compensation policy. My art has been selected from the Fan Forge before and the idea of being able to sell my HS art was so appealing, but the execution is so poor. They don’t pay us until we sell $100 worth of shirts, but that is so difficult in a market that is so oversaturated. I wish they like, cycled designs in and out. Instead, they just keep adding more and more designs, drowning out old ones and just flooding the entire market. Plus, they get to withhold money from artists until every hundred-dollar mark. I can’t imagine how much they’ve made off of small time artists that get their design accepted and sell maybe 3 shirts since it happens so often.” So. What exactly happened? I’ll explain under the cut given there’s a decent amount to go through. Though to summarize; WeLoveFine/ForFansByFans is an extremely egregious company that does not value their artists whatsoever and will do what they can to pay them as little as possible. Please support said artists on sites that actually do give them fair pay, or support them via commissions.

There were a few bumps during the tarot project, though overall it went extremely smoothly and we released our art to the Tumblr blog. FFBF approached us during this time, and we were all given the option to agree to continue working or the project or decline. However, this is what was an important piece to the initial email sent out by the Tarot Project team;      • Each participating artist will get a full finalized copy of the deck, COMPLETELY free. This includes packaging and free shipping of the deck.      • Each participating artist will get an enamel pin commemorating the project, EXCLUSIVE to the artists of this project only, with a custom design as chosen/designed by us. What will most likely occur is that everyone who wishes to submit a design for the pin can do so, and as a group, we will vote on which one we would like to submit as our final design choice!     • Each participating artist will receive FULL COMMISSION on any further usage of their artwork by What Pumpkin or For Fans By Fans. For example, if they release a mini-print, wallet, etc. with your design on it, you will be paid in commission for the usage of your work. (If you have ANY questions about how this would work, please don’t hesitate to ask and I will hook you up ASAP with a For fans By Fans representative who can go over the details with you further.)     • Each participating artist will have a window in which they will be able to make updates or revisions to their illustration(s) before the project is released. This means that if something is bugging you about your work, or you feel that it does not reflect your current level of skill, you will be allowed to resubmit a new version before the project officially goes up as merchandise! So, the majority of us agreed to continue forward with the project and retouch our cards. From there, things continued, and we were emailed by a FFBF representative on occasion to discuss how the process went, as well as various other things that required discussion, plus asked to assist in the promotion of the 4/13/18 celebration on their website. This is where the issues began and would continue through the entire project, with it still being seen post-release of the cards. We were sent an email in April of 2018 requiring information to be provided in the  accompanying booklet of the deck, as well as being asked to answer various interview questions that would be posted to FFBF’s Tumblr, and most importantly; the Commission Agreement form. So what did it entail? This was the form I was sent. My interview was never posted. I have looked multiple times and never seen evidence it ever was, either. And this was also included in the email;    • We are going to be hosting a pre-order bonus promotion surrounding the new tarot set, starting 413. Anyone who pre-orders the set will be entered into a drawing to win a commissioned art piece from a random artist who worked on the tarot. You will be paid by us, FFBF, for this commission work in the amount of $50.  So we had to draw more art with a very close deadline date to obtain a payment  for art we had already created, both of which should have easily been worth more than $50 total. I signed without thinking, which looking back on, was incredibly idiotic, despite my own worries over the fact that even at the time, $50 did not seem like a lot. Progress continued. An exclusive pin was designed and created for the artists, though the production and delivery dates would be delayed to September of 2018. During this time, we were also invited to join FFBF’s Discord server as well, which I am still in, though am not active in. And eventually, we were provided a Commission Schedule. I do not know if I’m missing an email between the enamel pin shipment and this schedule post, however I cannot find any trace of it. This is the Commission Schedule email, and what it consists of. Of course I found it strange, because looking at the schedule, I could never find any sign of myself having been added. Obviously I should have replied then and there due to that, but I didn’t, and that is my own fault. But that rolled into October of 2018, when I did finally email back and asked about why I hadn’t been added. I was sent back this; “Hi Calicorn! I’m sorry I misinterpreted your response as not wanting to proceed:“3)  I am completely willing to sign up for being one of the artists for the commission raffle event, though I must say $50 would be underpaying considering most artists’ base prices for commissions tend to be $50 or more.” Then I sent “If you do not want to be part of the give-away, that’s totally ok. We are offering $50 for these commissions but if that price is not within your comfort, there’s no pressure!” You never came back with anything so I didn’t want to proceed since it seemed like you were uncomfortable with the amount we were offering – I’m really sorry if I misunderstood! The giveaway is actually over I’m sorry to say but I appreciate you following up about this. I wonder why the message went into spam.. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do for you Thanks!” And one of the most glaring issues popped up in October as well. When we finally received our decks in the mail, our project’s Discord group began to discuss the fact that our emails had been printed in the pamphlet without our permission. Mind you, this was also a project that included minors in it, and our emails had now been given away without our knowledge. Another issue with the pamphlets is the fact that FFBF had reused the same text from the Homestuck Kickstarter Tarot Deck, as seen on the New Booklet/Old Booklet, and here/here. FFBF then decided to remove the booklet from every outgoing tarot that gets ordered, with customers receiving a corrected digital PDF that was coordinated in its creation by Aryll. And apparently previous customers would receive this PDF via emails, as well as a link to download it on the product page. Thankfully FFBF seemed to have at least posted the PDF on the product page, however this seems extremely lazy compared to simply including the newly reprinted booklet. Though this may not be the last of issues, as I stumbled across the Amazon product page for our tarot deck earlier before typing this all up. To say the least, it is extremely infuriating, especially given the quality of the cards and how many people of complained about them on both Amazon and FFBF’s websites. Of course we, the artists, were never alerted to this development, nor were we paid for such.

But overall, we were hardly paid for our time and effort during this project, which is a massive disappointment, but perhaps that much should have been expected from WeloveFine/ForFansByFans, who are notorious for underpaying artists and overpricing products. Their actions are inexcusable, and I am still both disappointed and furious with this company as a whole. But thank you for reading, and please spread the word, as I do not want FFBF’s actions to go unnoticed.

[homestuckexamination]

Ideas for troll denizens pt 1

Before I start, I just wanted to say that all of this is a mere theory, which means that I can’t get everything right, and that nothing is very confirmed, it’s just a post from a guy who likes Homestuck.

Aradia and Clio: Well, this one was one of the most nebolusos to discover Denizen, but I think I came up with a result. Clio is the muse of history according to Greek mythology, being represented with a flute in one hand and a book in the other. But you would ask yourself “what does this have to do with Aradia?”, Actually, it has some very related things. We can see this clearly, Aradia has / had a lot of interest in the area of ​​archeology (a science that studies the cultures and ways of life of different human societies - both past and present - from the analysis of material objects) so much that she is closely related to the idea of ​​"historian", not to mention that she made a monologue about the end of the session (ok, it was more like a “download of information”, but it still makes sense) And at the end of her arc, she gets following the “heroes” to see the conclusion, how it all ended. Okay, I have to admit that this connection was not so good, but I tried to work with what I had.

Tavros and Hermes: Oh boy, now things are starting to get together. I was always in doubt as to whether Tavros had Typheus or Hermes, but I think having more to Hermes’ side. Let’s see, Hermes is the god of “direction”, travel, commerce, magic (depending on the version) and linked with the “power of speech”. Hermes since childhood was always a creative, imaginative, and mischievous boy, he was responsible for enchanting / manipulating the herd of his brother Apollo (a possible Denizen of the light). Well, let’s look at Tavros now … Tavros is a good boy who is very interested in “magic things” and who has the power to manipulate animals at will, despite all that, Tavros has a serious problem in deciding his course , that is, its direction, and Hermes could help with that. At this point I think the similarities between the two are very evident, but, inhabitants are not final bosses or anything, they are there to help players with any problems they have (which connects with the character’s arc and the land quest) So much so, that Cetus (Vriska’s confirmed Denizen) didn’t want to attack her and kept dodging her attacks instead of fighting back, but we’ll talk about Vriska later (Vriska stealing the spotlight even in my post …) Hermes I would be in Tavros land to give the boy a direction, leaving him a page of breath done! But, things didn’t go very well … or did it not? It is said that all trolls killed god denizens except Kanaya and Tavros (how many times did I say “Tavros” here? “) That is, Tavros could have talked to his inhabitants and MAYBE, made the CHOICE, and well, remember what I said about Hermes being connected with the "power of speech”? Tavros was able to inspire an entire army of phantasms with his charisma. He may not have ascended, but he did, and he fought alongside his teammates against LE, and gained the same level of power as Vriska. Good job, kid.

Well, that was longer than I expected, but well, I will continue in other posts, have a good life :)

-Grafin

These are good! I really like Tavros’ thematic vibe, and I think Aradia fits well enough! That said... Is Typheus not confirmed to be Tavros’ Denizen? Not directly but, I always thought it was HEAVILY implied by Vriska’s remarks when meeting Typheus with John. I guess she could just be randomly thinking “Oh, maybe he just reasoned with the Denizen, makes more sense than him fighting it, Lol”, but to me it always seemed like “Oh so he had a chat with THIS THING?”