#it's the same old song and dance
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I think they should announce TZP as the next Bond just cause it would be funny to see the meltdowns about Bond being played by an American. I deserve a lil treat
honestly, american would be the least of our worries if they announced tzp as the next bond. there'd be people lighting tiki torches and carrying pitchforks because they dared cast a brown man.
#it's the same old song and dance#anytime someone not white is cast in a previously white role#always 'you're ruining it!!!'#interesting how that works#box talk#andwhatexcellentboiledpotatoes
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so a thing this fandom does that remains FASCINATING to me, as a function of the fact a lot of this fandom is people's first fandom or only current fandom, is just... assume a lot of things it does is a scourge that this fandom has invented or doesn't exist outside of it? or like, is uniquely bad here? and i won't deny that sometimes mcyt fandom is a bit more intense by virtue of numbers, but like...
duo names: confusing fandom-injokes to describe duos and groups tend to be an anime fandom thing specifically for many historical reasons, but they're not uncommon. hey quick--if you haven't been in KHR fandom, can you guess what 1827 is? no? i'll give you a hint: that's actually a ship name. or, ygo fans, tell me the difference between puppyshipping, prideshipping, violetshipping, and rivalshipping. my hint is that they're all kaiba ships and two of them are actually the same ship. good luck!
reducing characters to a specific trait: have you read fic in another fandom before? i would recommend you go do so and come back to me. my example here is "sasuke likes tomatoes", for the record.
common au fanon that's confusing to outsiders: my deep cut here is "when i got into certain tv fandoms i was baffled by the existence of sentinel/guide fics", which is a slightly older tv fandom thing so many of you probably don't know what i'm on about. but trust me: in certain fandoms it's ubiquitous and unless you've watched a completely different tv show you're gonna have to entirely pick it up from reading fic. oh hey, hybrid aus and watcher!grian, nice to see your relative here,
fanon being treated as canon: did you know there's this whole bnha character, naomasa, who is treated as canonically having a lie detector quirk? did you know that, best i can tell, that's not in canon anywhere, it just got echoed through fanon enough that everyone treated it as canon? 'fanon trait becomes so ubiquitous everyone assumes it has to be there' is not a new thing. also, batfamily fans, i have been lead to understand the tim and coffee thing is also this.
characters being treated badly to make a different dynamic look better: the fact we have the term 'character bashing' tells you all you need to know, here. if anything my one complaint on this front isn't even that it's happening--it's that i wish bashing and/or "not [character] friendly" was tagged a little more frequently, haha.
characters being reduced to their family dynamics: tale as old as time. "even the family dynamic thing" yes even that. just because this fandom tended to be particularly ship-adverse in the past didn't mean it didn't do basically the same behaviors as any fandom with shipping did with those dynamics, just gen. and other gen fandoms also do that. yes, down to the "and shipping reduces them to a ship, unlike my gen dynamic, which is very in-character; why can't people just be friends?" thing. some of you have to have been marvel fans right.
characters being reduced to their ships: some of you have to have been marvel fans right.
The Discourse: yeah this is an "actively running show" fandom thing, but also a hiatus fandom thing. ask a homestuck about vriskourse sometime. as much as i hate to say it, it probably made doomsday discourse look cute.
and those are just like... some things i've seen people complain about on my dash recently. idk it just hit me there are probably fans in mcyt fandoms who are assuming that some things (like hybrid aus or duo names) are the kind of things that only happen here, so i thought i'd offer some examples of other places they happen! i also have even more examples if you'd like.
to be clear: this isn't shaming anyone for complaining about any of these things. lord knows i go complain to my friends about it all the time, just the other day i was complaining in the category of 'they keep bashing my guy'. it's more of just... a gentle reminder that maybe we're big, maybe we're loud, maybe we have problems... but these problems aren't always unique.
so uh. we're all suffering together i guess...?
#discourse#<- because. yeah.#this isn't meant to start a discourse this is more me laughing about Fandoms Is The Same#its also why i'm not bringing up the More Serious types of Fandoms Is The Same because i don't want to make light of it#and am instead bringing up the pettier ones#this sparked initially by someone acting like duo names are a this-fandom only phenomenon after years of being a ygo fan#and i was like. oh i've done this song and dance many a time.#and then i was thinking about posts complaining about things like fd and ships and everything else and i was like. oh that's an OLD song#so here. so we all remember sometimes that we all suffer together lol#this isn't a vague of anyone in particular i just constantly waver about making this specific post#anyway back to my usual discourse-free self
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the brie larson hate is either sexist or band wagon hate because every claim that's made is contradicted by her work and people who have worked with her.
"she cant act"
yeah so thats why she has many accolades and co stars have said she's incredible to watch.
"shes cold and mean"
yeah thats why many actors and fans have said she's such a warm, thoughtful and kind person to meet. john goodman has said that on set she organizes events for everyone so they experience places around them. yeah sounds like something a jerk would do.
"she rolls her eyes and gets dismissive over questions asked during interviews"
she gets asked some sexist and ridiculous bs sometimes. id be fed up too and make sure everyone knows it.
"shes said bad things about her costars!"
you mean quotes taken out of context? things said in jest?
"shes smug and so full of herself!"
you mean she's confidant and outgoing? every male actor gets praised for that but its different for her, why? sexism.
#loved this woman since hoot and now that the marvels are out its the same old bs song and dance of hatred for this woman and itsexhausting#the marvels#captain marvel#carol danvers#brie larson
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do think its astounding how quickly agatha was able to get a read on billy and start needling him down. like if nothing else, agatha harkness is a consummate actress with a terrifying ability to read people
it also is a little scary for billy himself, i mean he revealed himself and his power and agatha immediately found nearly every single wound he had and started tearing, quite enthusiastically, at them all. equating his involuntary action of stealing a body to her own actions (and ouch, agatha fresh off alice's death and doing that? listing her own extensive body count alongside? her own cope is showing), the prodding at the mostly dead maximoff family all while simultaneously praising him as an actual witch for the first time when he's fresh off the back of a fairly violating powers crash out?
no doubt he's vulnerable, full of guilt, hurting and absolutely rueing the day he ever searched up agatha's name. she's absolutely terrifying. her life has just been threatened and she's laughing at him. and billy is stuck with her
#billy GET OUTTA THERE#she's on a corruption kick and ur her next victim#it is startlingly obvious that agatha has immediately sunk into the same old song and dance she's been doing for centuries#her survival mechanism is fascinating really#anyway that episode was delightful#the tragedy of the kaplan's make my chest hurt#agatha all along#agatha harkness#wiccan#billy maximoff#man how many names does this kid have
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I'm still drawing them, who would've guessed
#AndyArts#Bambi Draws#2024#Homestuck#Sollux Captor#Hal Strider#Lil Hal#Solhal#Halsol#Hallux#same old song and dance drawing the favs lmao
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See, and this is also what I hate about jc stans and “neutral” blogs:
“I’m open to discussion!” but I had to find out I was blocked after you sent me a booklet worded as if you wanted to engage with me.
“I’m open to discussion!” but you won’t respond when shown direct quotes from the text.
“I’m open to discussion!” but spamming the same one excerpt over and over despite every single day a new person telling you why it is out of context and being misrepresented.
“I’m open to discussion!” but ending your responses with some self-insult as if I said those words to you rather than you fantasizing about me insulting you to prepare your victimhood narrative.
#spent so much time typing out a nice reply to someone#who had responded to me as if they really wanted to discuss#only to hit send and find out I’m blocked#so why did you bother clogging my activities then?#same old song and dance
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I'm slowly becoming more confident that it was indeed a seizure, mostly because my brother just got diagnosed with epilepsy and we found out he's been having seizures all his life (they were just rare and light enough that even he had no idea they were happening). I also found out that one of the medications I'm on is usually used to prevent seizures rather than what I use it for, so that may have saved me from the full fun seizure experience.
#replies#i speak#not warriors#of course my folks have been swearing up and down that its just my eating habits that have made me feel so weird#same old song and dance#i dont think arfid makes your brain spazz out ma#phreia
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Well would you look at this. 😵💫 Because obviously if you dare say anything as wild and controversial as “lesbians don’t like men, please stop using a label that hurts us and tries to force men into our identity” you’re a raging terf radfem transmisogynist. Because obviously ONLY trans women use the bi lesbian label and it’s not like there are transfem lesbians who are rightfully against the label as well or anything and it’s not like terfs use the label to refer to cis lesbians who date trans women and why can’t you just let people identify as how they want of course lesbians like men stop the infighting already if you disagree with me that lesbians can like men then surely that’s because you’re an exclusionist gatekeeper who hates trans women.
#lesbian#anti-bi lesbian#trans women#lesbophobia#the raging hatred for lesbians on this site is getting to an all-time high y'all will stop at NOTHING to gaslight us and make us out to be#hateful terf bitches for our sexuality#how many times are we going to do this same old song and dance#no i will not calm down i will be taken seriously#you CANNOT be a bi women as a lesbian idfc if you’re trans or cis#lesbians do not like men and bi women shouldn’t have to ‘pick a side’ by calling themselves lesbians#it’s absurd maddening and sad how little y’all respect us#and trans women always have a place in the lesbian community that doesn’t mean that ACTUAL MEN DO#shit#trying to frame this as ‘well you must be a terf if you are against bi lesbians’ is a shitty move and you’re not being original or clever#go fuck yourself#trans lesbians exist and are valid and the bi lesbian label hurts them just like it hurts cis lesbians if anything it hurts them more so#and i will block ANYONE who supports bi lesbians it doesn’t matter if they’re a trans woman a cis woman a trans man non-binary etc idfc#stop trying to frame this as exclusionary radfem rhetoric#bi lesbian as a term DOES support corrective rape idgas what lesbophobes like you want to say about it#that’s all goodbye#sorry but this got me mad you do not get to use transmisogyny as a clutch to spout blatant ass lesbophobia#i’m so tired of this shit#blocklist#op
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i think there is something very freeing about being in a fandom as old and as widespread as tf2 because everything has been done already and the same concepts someone wrote about 11 years ago will be played with again forever and ever in eternity, with the only uniqueness of it being how that particular person goes about it. it's like two cakes but a whole bakery of cakes
#yknow what i mean#theres no pressure to be like. unique#or to not step on each other's toes#bc we HAVE and we WILL cause its the same old song and dance and its a GOOD RYTHMN!!!!!#can u tell im warming up to write :P#my post
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How does Raxis's orientation, gender, and skin color matter? And why does yours matter?
Why does me being a queer woman matter when a cishet white man accuses me of being queerphobic and misogynist?
Assuming you're the anon Ezra keeps getting who is complaining about us pointing out his age (since I got this right after I reblogged one of those), you probably read his blog right? Considering Raxis claims to be such a great progressive ally and co-opts all that progressive language, I'd think people who follow him would understand why this is so important?
Okay, I'll be very clear, cut because this got long, I'm not repeating it ad nauseum after this post.
His gender, sexual orientation, and race wouldn't matter if he hadn't made it matter. Raxis is not only a bully, he's a bully who constantly appropriates the language of social justice. My very first direct interaction with him was literally me calling his ass out for using the murder of Roe v. Wade as a bludgeon to win a fandom argument. Which happened, like, right the fuck after that decision came down and most women in America were fucking traumatized from literally having our rights stripped from us. And I wish our relationship ended at that "apology" but he hasn't changed and he keeps doing it.
He is the one who consistently accuses me (and other women) of being misogynistic and having internalized misogyny. He is the one who consistently accuses me (and other queer folk) of being queerphobic. He is the one who accuses BWIIDT (who is mixed race) for being out of line for thinking Cap (another white man!) has written racist elements into his fic (unintentionally or not). He consistently uses our oppression as a justification for why it should be okay for him to bully us.
If you are going to use our identities as part of your justification for harassing us, then we have every right to point out that these are identities that we hold and you don't. We have every right to point out that the opinions of a cishet white man about misogyny, queerphobia, racism, etc. do not matter as much as ours because you have never fucking experienced it like we have.
The role of allies is to amplify voices in spaces where we are not respected (e.g. with other cishet white men), not to lecture marginalized people for being "bad queers" or "bad women" from your throne of privilege.
It's especially fucking slimy because he pretends to be super progressive live and in concert, but when he slinks back to his buddies he laughs at us for being upset about being misgendered:
(Yes because you repeatedly misgendered me for months and only started correcting yourself and your anons when I called your shit out. You are literally "the misgendering type" but it's cute how you tried to act like I was being unreasonable for wanting the basic human respect of being referred to by my proper pronouns)
Accuses us of trying to hide behind "identity politics" when we're talking about the fucking oppression we face:
(Always a great sign when a cishet white man accuses queer women of "trying to use identity politics as a shield" when they're talking about their own fucking oppression. An even better sign when a cishet white man brags about "out identity-politicking" queer women when they're telling you to stop fucking throwing their oppression back in their faces. Whining about "identity politics" whenever marginalized groups try to voice anything is frankly such an alt right dogwhistle in itself at this point and I genuinely hope he's just not aware of it.)
Bullies queer women on his side who disagree with him and try to say basically exactly what I'm saying right now. That straight men can't appropriate the language we use to describe our oppression:
(usernames censored for the privacy of those being harassed and those not participating in harassment. This conversation has so much fucking more btw holy shit.)
Accuses me, specifically, of being "desperate to be a victim". I'll remind you I quite literally tried to give him grace despite him consistently using my oppression as a bludgeon to win stupid fucking fandom arguments and harass people (see also, the link above about me calling him out for the Roe v. Wade thing):
(Yes, Raxis, I fucking loved pouring my heart out about how my dad would kick me out for being queer and how I've faced sexual harassment. Tee hee. I'm having soooooo much fun "being a victim". I don't 'argue', I tell you, because your horrible treatment of people and my feelings about it are not up for debate.)
And engages in racist behavior like calling being black a "multiplier" to deflect from criticism and mocking a WoC when she posts about how racism upsets her.
(Yes Raxis, WoC tend to get "big mad" and "suffer" when they encounter racism, you ghoul. Before you ask, the blacked out part just wasn't relevant to the conversation.)
And this is just the stuff I got out of a quick keyword search because I don't want to expend that much energy on this. God only knows what else is buried in there.
This tells me you aren't actually an ally. You're an "ally" when it's convenient for you or when you think it'll make you look good, but your allyship is conditional, and the second you're "crossed" by someone you claim to champion you throw their trauma back in their faces. Not even your supposed friends are safe from it, so what chance did we have of not getting harassed by you?
"But there's queer women in the Edelgard fandom who like him!" Okay? So he can't be engaging in harmful shit just because he has a queer friend? When has "I have a [blank] friend" EVER been an actual good faith defense against criticism? News flash, we're not a monolith, and just because some women and queer folk might like you or even agree with you doesn't mean you get to tell me how I should respond to my own fucking oppression. It is not your place to accuse me, a fucking queer woman, of having "internalized misogyny" or "internalized homophobia" every time I say something you don't personally like.
Frankly, from what I've seen of their server, it's less "queer women like him" and more like "queer women are too afraid to say anything against him" because whenever they try he cries to his pro-genocide mod buddy (THAT is a whole fucking story) who threatens to ban them.
And I'm not going to add these screenshots because I feel icky airing her personal business like that so explicitly, but I do have them. The woman involved in the censored screenshots above posted, in the server, about how unsafe she felt because she'd been threatened and silenced by cishet men for trying to talk about queerphobia. She left the server entirely after that.
And let's not forget what started this: he's thirty five years old and in many cases he's pulling this shit on people who are significantly younger than him. Exceeding a decade his junior in some cases. I point that out primarily for the power dynamic inherent to that. Not only is he privileged on the basis of race, gender, and orientation, he's fully developed and he knows what he's doing. He has the privilege of age and experience.
Fuck dude, he started going after some folks on Tumblr when they were still like? 18? 19? Not children, but fucking close.
I'll be very explicit because I know he's going to take this and try to accuse me of ageism, because that's what he always does when he gets called out for appropriating the language of social justice: you are a fucking adult. You have been an adult the entire time you have been in this fandom. As an adult, it's your job to be a fucking adult in these situations. Not to verbally abuse and harass inexperienced teens and early 20 somethings because they don't agree with your video game opinions. You are a grown ass 35 year old man man who thinks he's cool because he can "beat up", "cow", and "bitch slap" teenagers and early 20 somethings who are still developing, figuring themselves out, and learning how to express themselves in an articulate manner. Many of whom are already dealing with varying levels of actual trauma based on their upbringings (abusive, hateful, uncaring, or just generally unpleasant environments) or how they've been treated because of their identity (race, class, gender, sexual orientation, mental health, disability, sometimes multiple all at once) or both. That is why I keep bringing up your age.
It is quite possibly the single most embarrassing thing I have seen someone in fandom brag about. Not even just because you did it, Raxis, but because you're proud of it and you genuinely think it makes you look cool. It's embarrassing. You're embarrassing yourself.
#inb4 he accuses me of ageism#or one of his other old standbys he does to try and deflect criticism#Like the suuuuuuuper helpful anon who tells him how great and progressive he is#Or the good ol' 'accuse the eDeLcRiTs of any random baseless shit in the hopes my followers will think theyre worse than me#Heck maybe his buddy will run in to defend his honor like the last few times and then ignore me when I call them out for sending me threats#try a new tactic im bored of doing this same song and dance every time#or better yet why dont you just leave people alone when they ask you to?
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LIKE CLOCKWORK
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roman and naz are very supportive of minerva's dancing aspirations and budding gender expression
[posts this as a distraction from the botched character lineup post :p]
#digital art#sketch#my art#titan lore#titan#minerva#roman#naz#she/they get more gnc later i Swear.#this is also a redraw of an old thing with old ocs. but these ocs are also exactly the same because i recycle them like aluminum.#her fav abba song is 'tiger' btw#also roman is a LOT taller than naz i just forgor to fix it#roman and naz look angry cuz those r just the faces they make when they're tipsy but they're having fun i swear#also drawing dancing is hard bruh#okay enough yapping
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me when people blatantly prefer male muses over female muses : that's weird... that's suspicious... that's strange.........
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Am I the only one who GENUINELY loves Paul’s old man singing voice? Like, I don’t know. Maybe it’s not as strong and doesn’t hold exactly as well as it used to, but it is SO GOOD to convey a more vulnerable state of mind, to hear what the core of a human emotion sounds like. Like, I obviously love Paul’s voice ALWAYS, but back in the day it sounded like an “aesthetically” pleasing voice and wasn’t often moved by it (I was more moved by his lyrics, piano, guitar and bass playing). And now I just connect to his voice instinctively.
Frankly, I don’t care that on some days he doesn’t get to certain high notes, or that his voice breaks. Actually, THAT’S THE POINT. I don’t want a vocalist to be flawless. I want a vocalist to express something.
#macca#this might be why I felt so drawn into the São Paulo and his most recent shows on yt#but felt so much less entertained and emotionally drawn to Rockshow#OF COURSE Rockshow is ALSO an awesome show and I love Wings#but old man Paul just hits different#linda like how Johnny Cash’s songs did especially in his last years of life#like in I Walk The Line his voice was good#in American III and American IV he reaches straight through me#the same goes for McCartney III#Dance Tonight just MAKES ME HAPPY#because it’s a HAPPY SONG#same for Find My Way#and Come On To Me#i love Paul’s voice no matter the era ok
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is tyler a good dancer or singer ? is he first in like for karaoke or the kind of line dancing ? the people want to know,
civi this is a really cute ask . i love this a lot . first of all , i say this loudly with my entire chest : he will be the first person to break off from the crew and go racing right onto the floor when it comes to line dancing . this man loves to line dance like this . he has so much energy , he has to let it out somehow . i wouldn’t call him the best dancer of all time , but he’s had some practice in his life . attended those bars during his rodeo days , and also during his college days specifically . he will never turn down a chance to dance . not so much karaoke , though … but he can still be caught singing along to his favorite songs when his adrenaline is up or he’s just flat out skunk drunk .
#ofsoul#( ;; one thing about me is i'm never not thinking about line dancing. )#( ;; i also have this song in his playlist so .. of course. of course. )#( ;; i love this. i love this. thank you so much. x )#╰ ゜OUT OF CHARACTER. * ANSWERED.#╰ ゜HEADCANON. * I KEEP CHASIN THAT SAME OLD DEVIL.
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The Civil Wars really did so much for trc coded songs especially for Bluesey coded songs.
#dust to dust + birds of a feather + Barton hollow + tip of my tongue + eavesdrop all Bluesey bops#(Barton Hollow also counts as a general Gansey song)#and I’ve seen people say Poison and Wine for Adansey and they’re right. but also Same Old Same Old is sooo adansey#dance me to the end of love also could be a general Gangsey song although tbh. going to be real and say that’s the herongraystairs song to#me forever#Kingdom Come also trc/ Gansey coded. other songs have vibes too they’re just not as assignable to me rn#trc#s speaks#(yes part of the Bluesey coding is the emotional cheating. their slay <3333)#Bluesey
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