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hey this is a little silly but i saw that “your voice is nice comic” and it made me curious about sonadow fanfic and so i read a couple one-shots and i have two (2) questions, why does shadow call sonic “faker” and do you have any (preferably shorter) fic recs?
that blue hedgehog again of all places. i've found you, faker! faker? i think you're the fake hedgehog around here. you're comparing yourself to me? ha! you're not even good enough to be my fake. i'll make you eat those words!
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Even more memes inspired by @whatwooshkai 's fanfic☆
#tf second chance blues#transformers#transformers optimus#transformers bumblebee#transformers megatron#transformers shockwave#transformers wheeljack#literally obsessed with this fic#its so good!!#maccadam#megop#also are you gonna tell me that scene WASNT just the iconic meme from snapcube's sonic adventures 2 fandub??#sketch#ilustracion#optimus prime#megatron#bumblebee#shockwave#wheeljack
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sqibo…. have you perchance partaken in the art of october and have starter with one of the calendars?? if so, show the art you’ve made!!:D (i’m rlly curious to see what calendar you did and what you’ve drawn if you are doing an prompt-tober thing:33)
I haven't had much free time to draw for years, I'm sorry :') Let alone one drawing every day! But if you are curious about my art here's (almost) everything I've drawn in 2024 that wasn't a thumbnail
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#ask#should i tag this stuff......?#first pic is a redraw of a scene from sonic adventure 2#thennnn commissioner ashswag as sad shinji#I dont know the context for 3rd one we were probably just in vc#me and jumper us being happy when mapic died LOL#the fuck you family#again just me drawing ash while I was in vc with him#annddd lastly its a redraw of a frame sonic prime
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So I’ve been playing Sonic Gens after buying the bundle bc I never actually played it before. Not much Sonic gaming under my belt.
🎵Running around at the speed of sound🎵
Oh my god, it’s the song! I was just thinking about- WHY IS THIS TRUCK CHASING ME?! WHY IS IT MAD MAX-IAN WITH ALL THESE WEAPONS?! HELP!
Also, when I’m modern Sonic, I just flip over cars when I’m skating down the street?! So much property damage! 😂
This is an accurate depiction of anyone's first time playing the City Escape level💀
#sonic adventure 2 did it best tho fr—there's no topping the opening scene of a fugitive sonic leaping from a helicopter on a makeshift board#answering your asks#sonic the hedgehog#sonic#sth#sonic generations#sonic x shadow generations#sonic adventure 2
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I am excited to give Sonic 3 a second watch, because the first time I was so baffled by the plot stuff that didn't make any sense, and lore stuff they chose to change, I couldn't appreciate the awesome stuff and SA2 references. I'm excited to watch it again so I can ignore the bad stuff and just enjoy the good stuff, because the good stuff is REALLY GOOD. It just doesn't get to shine like it should.
#Sonic movie 3#Sonic movie 3 spoilers#Sa2b#Sonic adventure 2#Why the FUCK would you cut away from the Live and Learn scene. WHO APPROVED THIS EDIT#There are two wolves in me#A former film student and a sonic fan#And they're both just... Confused
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as much as i am excited for shadow in sonic 3 i still REALLY wish they hadnt jumped straight to sa2 n done sonic adventure instead or Something. obviously i get why they did shadow but i agree i really hope they dont just straight up adapt sa2 because theres so many moving parts. my biggest fear is that theyre gonna introduce characters like rouge and amy who are integral to shadows story (in sa2) at the same time and that its just gonna be a mess
yeah i love rouge and amy but if the next movie has to handle introducing both of them along with shadow then things could get really messy and i highly doubt that all three of them would get the amount of screentime and focus that they deserve. rouge was introduced at the same time as shadow anyway so thats not as much of an issue its mostly amy im worried about. she was already an established character who had been around for a few years when sa2 came out. assuming that the next movie is gonna be an sa2 adaptation and amy is going to be in it how are they going to handle that being her first appearance? and while i dont think i want the movies to be exact copies of the games in terms of story i do find it a tiny bit annoying that they seem to be somewhat going in order in terms of what characters they introduce and what games they adapt but just completely skipped over everything with amy in it and shes still the only main character who hasnt been introduced in the movies yet and they revealed shadow before her. like on one hand yeah shadow is one of the more popular and widely recognized sonic characters so it makes sense to use him and hype him up but also why did you have to do my girl amy like that
#and it doesnt help that amy is the only girl in the main cast too and is the only one that hasnt gotten any attention at all#iirc the sonic movies have always been planned to be a trilogy so that might have something to do with why they skipped cd and adventure#i guess its possible that amy or rouge could be introduced in the knuckles spinoff series. if that ever even comes out.#but idk. i dont like the idea of a main characters introduction being shoved into side media that a lot of people wont watch#because it really annoys me when other movie series do that#asks#ik in the second movie they split the cast into groups/teams and did very few solo character scenes#which i guess could work for the next movie too but if every important character from the first 2 movies#is also going to be in the next one along with any new characters then it could be harder to do that#while still giving every character the necessary amount of attention does that make sense
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i'm locking in
#managed to get spoiled for the first 2 movies im DETERMINED to not let it happen for the third time in a row#i will be seeing it at 7:00pm this friday. which is very early to be seeing it. but it'll be in theaters on the 19th so still Dangerous#i was lucky enough that for both movies it was Only the after credits scenes that got spoiled. but the 2nd one was so stupid im still angry#literally it was just. i was getting ready to GO to the theater to watch it. i go to the bathroom. open twitter for 2 seconds.#and shadow the hedgehog was trending and i knew it was all over. immediately went into denial bc ngl i was rooting for metal sonic & amy :(#SO. i'm using all my power this time to prevent anything possible from showing me Anything. blocked all the tags AND phrases here#moved the twitter app to a whole different location on my app screen so that i forget where it is#put bluesky in its previous spot even though it is frankly boring as all hell#got the twitter control panel extension just so i could hide the explore tab/sidebar and never see a single trending topic ever again#and i am preparing to unfollow the sonic tags i'm following if i must. i'll block them too if i have to idgaf !!!#and the worst part is i already feel like i know a lot of what's gonna be IN this movie yknow. its fucking sonic adventure 2#the moon's gonna blow up a 12 year old girl is gonna get shot and sonic and shadow are gonna get real sparkly at the end#but i also know that the movie's setting is gonna make everything all weird and i wanna see what insane shit they'll surprise me with#and i only wanna see it on FRIDAY at SEVEN O'CLOCK PM!!!
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i boarded on a sonic adventure 2 fan project a few years back where we reboarded all the cutscenes from the game. it ultimately got cancelled but we're allowed to share our scenes. it's been up on my portfolio for a bit, thought i'd share it here!
#ameetoe art#sonic#sonic the hedgehog#sonic adventure#sonic adventure 2#fan project#storyboard#storyboard artist#Vimeo
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The Intimate Relationship Between Sonic and Shadow
In the ending scene for Sonic Adventure 2 in Japanese, Sonic sadly says on his own as he looks out to Earth from the ARK: "疲れた... きゅうきょくせいめいたいか?" Which translates to: "Worn-out... Ultimate Lifeform?"
疲れた = Worn-out
きゅうきょく = Ultimate
せいめいたい = Lifeform
Though there are no subtitles for this scene, if you listen closely, you can hear Sonic say: "tsukareta," which means worn-out like you're exhausted. Sonic asks this sadly to himself as he looks down before he is interrupted. After brushing his sorrow aside so that it's not seen by others, before Sonic leaves the ARK, he says: "Adiós, Shadow the Hedgehog..." which means good-bye in Spanish.
This scene doesn't get translated correctly in English and the true meaning of this scene was lost in translation.
If we think back to previous scenes in the game, when Sonic was shot out of the ARK in a capsule, he was able to use a fake Chaos Emerald to Chaos Control into the ARK before it exploded. How Sonic got back into the ARK after defeating the BioLizard could have been the same or he flew back with what little energy he had left. Before Sonic told Shadow about how he used a fake Emerald to Chaos Control out of the capsule, Shadow watched as the capsule exploded and said to himself that it ended up that Sonic was an ordinary hedgehog after all due to thinking he died in the explosion. After seeing Sonic again and he was told how he escaped the explosion, it surprised and intrigued Shadow.
This scene can be seen as a parallel to not only when Shadow was also shot out of a capsule by Maria, but also the ending credits when Sonic looked out of the ARK while he waited to see if Shadow would also do the same as him and Chaos Control into the ARK after the battle. Once he saw that he wasn't going to appear, Sonic became extremely saddened and realized that Shadow was too tired to Chaos Control back and make a surprise appearance. But even if Sonic knew that Shadow might have not made it beforehand when giving his limiter to Rouge, he still hung onto a small sliver of hope that he would make a surprising comeback like he did.
With this knowledge, the ending lines saying for heroes to rest easy makes more sense since Sonic states that Shadow was too tired/worn-out. An image of Shadow even appears after the phrase to show that the words were for Shadow.
Another scene to take into account is the time they both turned Super. When they turned Super, it can be assumed that the Chaos Emeralds connected the two in a way that can only be seen with one's heart. This can be assumed because it was only after they turned Super together that the two became extremely concerned for one another (in the battle with the Final Hazard), fought as one, were in sync, looked out for each other, saw each other in high regard, and believed/trusted in one another with all their heart. Perhaps at that moment they turned Super, their hearts were connected and they both saw each other as equals and for who they are inside. It's possible that their hearts were so connected that when Shadow heard Maria's voice while they were Super, Sonic could have heard her too through Shadow. This can be assumed due to the slight turn of Sonic's head as if he's listening and how he waited until she was done talking to tell Shadow that now was the moment to use Chaos Control together.
At that moment when Shadow decided to help, perhaps the Chaos Emeralds helped Sonic understand who and what type of person Shadow was because even if he was manipulated to destroy the world at first, Shadow was willing to sacrifice himself to save the very people he thought deserved to suffer. And with that, Sonic gained a newfound respect and care for Shadow since he saw what a pure and good person he was deep down. This was the case so much so that the Emeralds responded in kind with their miracles and accepted in making Shadow Super as well.
Another thing to take into account is how after this game, it makes more sense as to why Sonic constantly looks for Shadow or tries to get his attention. Because Sonic saw Shadow seemingly die once despite seeing how capable and strong he is by being an equal to him in Sonic Adventure 2, he looks out for Shadow to make sure that it doesn't happen again like it was mentioned in the Sonic x Shadow 2021 July Calendar Story.
"Only the [moon] overlooking the bustling city seemed to be watching over that shadow forever and ever."
This can also explain why the two constantly rival each other at times since Sonic could be checking on Shadow's well-being, just like Shadow watches over Sonic's (Sonic Colors DS, Sonic Forces, Team Sonic Racing, Sonic x Shadow 2021 July Calendar Story).
[Sonic Colors DS - Asteroid Coaster Mission 1]
[Sonic Colors DS - Asteroid Coaster Completing Mission 1]
[Sonic Colors DS - Shadow worried for Sonic's well-being after completing the mission]
[Sonic Colors DS - Asteroid Coaster Mission 2]
[Sonic Forces - Shadow Protects Sonic at Sunset Heights]
[Sonic Forces Episode Shadow - Shadow concerned for Sonic's safety]
[Team Sonic Racing - Shadow saw that Sonic was capable after racing him, so he says that he can join him in defeating Eggman]
[Sonic x Shadow 2021 July Calendar Story - Shadow tests Sonic but also tries to get him away from joining him in his mission]
[Sonic doesn't listen or adhere to Shadow's wishes and goes to find what Shadow could be doing in order to help him]
[Both work together in sync to neutralize the bomb threat]
It has been stated and shown that Sonic and Shadow are the ones who understand each other the most. Though the both of them understand each other the most since their fight together as Supers in Sonic Adventure 2 and understand that they're capable, they both still look out for each other because of that understanding and care for one another. Perhaps it is due to the event of when they turned Super together, that they share an intimate relationship with each other as stated in the Sonic x Shadow 2021 July Calendar Story. And from that event, also gained understanding, respect and care that formed from the events; from the Chaos Emeralds' miracle. At that moment, the Chaos Emeralds responded to Sonic and Shadow's wishes, which proves that both their thoughts, hopes and wishes were the same. Therefore, it is then that Sonic and Shadow knew for sure, that the other was like himself and that they both shared the same vision and beliefs. The Emeralds created a miracle and it is through that miracle their relationship was formed; their relationship is a miracle.
[Sonic x Shadow 2021 July Calendar Story - Bottom Description]
[Sonic x Shadow 2021 July Calendar Story]
[Explanation of the phrase "懐に入って来られる稀有(けう)な関係" used in the Sonic x Shadow 2021 July Calendar Story Description that states their relationship is intimate]
After Shadow defeated the BioLizard with Sonic, in Japanese, Shadow asks if "this is enough" before falling to Earth and giving up/deciding to rest. Because Shadow ended up giving up and did not return to the ARK, along with Sonic being able to use a fake Chaos Emerald to do Chaos Control, perhaps that's why Shadow always thinks that he is below in capability to Sonic who never gives up and is capable of doing more than him, despite also knowing that they are equal in strength and speed.
Perhaps what Shadow finds himself inferior with is from thinking that he is not as good of a person as Sonic since he has made mistakes or didn't have the same drive as him. Therefore, perhaps that is why Shadow always tries to test to see if Sonic is up to par or is strong enough to take care of himself so that he stays safe and continues being alive as that good person. This also explains why Shadow was so concerned for Sonic in Sonic Forces when Infinite was going to go hurt Sonic. If Shadow couldn't take Infinite on despite being Sonic's equal and knowing that, that's why Shadow got concerned for Sonic's safety. It can be assumed that perhaps one of Shadow's missions in life is keeping Sonic safe or alive since he is a good person and someone he cares about deep down.
[Sonic x Shadow 2021 July Calendar Story]
[Sonic Colors DS - Shadow implies that he leaves it to Sonic since he believes that Sonic can do better, even if they are of equal strength and speed]
But despite always checking up on one another, they don't only test each other's strengths when meeting each other. Sometimes, they seem to also play, like in Team Sonic Racing. This can be implied since Shadow said to Sonic that he didn't have time to play with him/entertain him/have the spare time/to be concerned for his well-being at the time due to having an important mission to uphold with Emerl. But perhaps even when they play, they still test each other's strengths in a certain manner, like with their driving skills in Team Sonic Racing.
[Sonic Battle - English]
[Team Sonic Racing - Sonic went to talk to Shadow and when asked about him, he laughs a little as he implies that he got Shadow to play with him through racing (which was on his top priority to think of since he mentioned that before what he learned about Eggman)]
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[Team Sonic Racing]
There are times that Shadow tries to steer Sonic into the right direction of defeating the main threat, but he still in a way, gives Sonic a choice and Sonic readily accepts like in Sonic Colors DS when he tells Sonic to go fight Eggman and in Team Sonic Racing when he reminds Sonic about the main objective in defeating Eggman. Sonic also does this for Shadow, such as in Shadow the Hedgehog 2005 where Sonic tries to steer Shadow onto the path of good when he lost his memories. Even at the end, Sonic was willing to protect Shadow and the world by asking for the Chaos Emeralds from Shadow, though Shadow ended up being able to defeat Black Doom on his own despite not remembering everything.
[Sonic Colors DS - Shadow reminds Sonic to take care of Eggman]
[Team Sonic Racing - Shadow reminds Sonic about the threat of Eggman, even if he wants to play]
The both of them make up a whole like two sides of the same coin. Sonic and Shadow know this, but it is Shadow who is not ready to close that gap between them since he still sees himself as inferior to Sonic. But even so, Sonic continues to watch over Shadow, talk to him and wait for him until Shadow also accepts that he is the same as himself, that they're equal and that they can be on the same level/stage together as one. This is also why Sonic hints to Shadow that he is already his equal and is also a good person too in the Sonic x Shadow 2021 July Calendar Story. So when Shadow still tries to shy away or run away from being unable to accept that, Sonic gets disappointed, but he still continues to wait for him, watch over him and help him come to accept that he doesn't have to think of himself as an inferior to himself.
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Tried adapting a scene from Sonic Adventure 2 into comic form 🤷♂️.
#art#digital art#fanart#cspaint#csp ex#digital artist#artists on tumblr#sonic the hedghog fanart#sonic fanart#sonic the hedgehog#sonic fandom#sth#sonic series#sonic adventure 2#sonic adventure fanart#sega sonic#idw sonic#sonic idw#comics#comic book#comic art#amy rose#sonic#sth fanart#sth fandom#amy rose fanart#manga art#sonic movie 3#sonamy#i suppose
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I love that in the main game, Sonic Adventure 2 and the movie Sonic 3 has Shadow never goes after Sonic unprovoked.
Avoided the first fight in the game
And tried to turn away multiple times in the first scene alone
Shadow from the get go is the most powerful being in the universe. So for him to want to fight Sonic and enjoy it would create an disturbing imbalance between them.
The powerful one must be passive, reactionary and restrained in his actions, while the weaker one turns up the passionate feistyness up to 11 and is always the moral high ground.
That is the Shadow and Sonic rule. It's sane, it's iconic, it works!
But then you have the times when there are writers who don't follow the rule.
And it's quite......A LOT....to take in.
In Sonic X, Sonic does get beat up out of nowhere. Rule broken. It's brutal and Shadow even points out that he could've killed Sonic had he point-chop his hand towards Sonic instead of balled up fist punch him.
Afterwards Sonic is.....amused??? AMUSED?!?!
And Sonic still ends up crediting Shadow for "saving him". As if everything was so exciting and fun.
Then the writers go even harder in the Cosmo saga. Sonic just handwaves away EVERYTHING Shadow does wrong in this saga and boy he's wrong. But after all of the messed up stuff:
what the unconditional love?
then suddenly
Shadows wants to die for Sonic. WAIT WHAT?! SLOW DOWN.
Then in Sonic Prime, again Shadow just fights Sonic so hard out of nowhere. Rule broken. Sonic barely understands whats going on.
YET THIS
Just life jumping after Shadow like he's all that matters. After all the mess he did up until this point.
Then Shadow goes full Titanic for the rest of the series
This is just mad love.
You have the games and the movie with their perfect arcs. Then you have these two series with their "I don't know why I love him, I JUST DO"
So all I'm saying is
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The more and more I think about that final scene from Dark Beginnings, the more and more it's one of my favourite Shadow scenes. Of all time. It's not just "Omg he's imagining a future with Maria wah". I mean that helps, of course. But here's the thing.
We've seen Shadow as a lot of things. He was cocky but cool-headed in Adventure 2. A confused but ultimately well-meaning anti-hero in Shadow. The best character in 06 (like that was hard, admittedly). An absolute asshole in Boom. Vegeta in IDW. The best character in Prime (Nine sucks don't @ me).
But one thing I don't think we've ever seen Shadow as...is vulnerable.
This scene shows that. He'd never dare get this screwed up around others. But here, he's alone. Intrusive thoughts invade his mind. And for the first time in a decade, his expression...softens. His pupils unfocus and dart around. His eye(s) widen. He begins to hyperventilate, and he has to snap himself out of it.
This "lone wolf" mask finally slips, and we see the Shadow from the flashback in episode 2. We see the Shadow who was insecure about himself, who lost the only people in the universe that mattered to him. And despite killing Black Doom, despite reaffirming his true destiny, some wounds just don't heal. They leave scars. But he'd never show those scars to anyone else. We see a Shadow who, deep down, doesn't want to hurt like that again.
In this one scene, we don't just see Edgy Sonic Rival #2, or a knockoff super saiyian, or a design made to sell toys. We see a CHARACTER, flaws and all.
Man, everything about SxSG's marketing has been nothing but impeccable. It's not just that it's remembering things that happened in the 2000's. It's that the wounds from around that time are finally healing. Slowly, but the recovery has started. I can only hope the game itself can stick the landing. Please don't let all this good shit be for nothing...
#midnight ramble#ramble#shadow generations#sonic x shadow generations#dark beginnings#shadow dark beginnings#shadow the hedgehog#the balls in your court sonic team#do not fuck this up#character analysis
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SCREAMING, WRITHING, FROTHING, ABSOLUTELY OBSESSED WITH THE RACERS AU-
I'm wondering if they actually hate each other at first. Maybe not so much as Shadow but he might as dark rider (assuming that's later down the line? or is he moonlighting). Like Dark Rider is just Shadow releasing his demons. Letting the intrusive thoughts go wild. Aren't you tired of playing nice? Don't you just wanna go Apeshit?
The image is just absolutely hilarious to me
hehehe you're right on the money!! Dark Rider views Sonic more as a nuisance than something to be dealt with seriously, but if he starts interfering in a way that escalates him from just being an inconvenience to an obstacle from his main goals, then Sonic might find himself in some dire straits.. Sonic is more than willing to entertain a new challenge, especially a new challenger to the scene, but if Dark Rider won't give him the time and day then Sonic will make him. In the racing scene, you might hate someone, but it's important that there's some kind of acknowledgement shared. It's the respect between two opponents. Dark Rider's DGAF-ness to Sonic and others within the race irks Sonic in that way- it's like Dark Rider doesn't see Sonic as a formidable opponent. (Also Dark Rider is the reason Sonic gets wrongfully sent to the slammer for a night. lmfao.)
Shadow in the AU is a lot quieter/more reserved compared to his modern counterparts, more on the Prime/Sonic Adventure 2 side. if Shadow is the side of the moon that's within view for anyone to see, then Dark Rider is the dark side that no one's seen before, only privy to the moon itself and those within his orbit- not that there's anyone he'd allow to reach him in that way. Dark Rider is the aggressive, volatile part of himself charged by rage and violence and Chaos energy that he keeps under wraps.
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Why I like Sonic and Tails in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.
I was recently discussing AoStH, and one of the things I realised is how good the show is at showing Sonic and Tails as being friends. As opposed to the games where for the most part they feel more like co-workers.
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The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog frequently sets up its plots and scenarios by showing Sonic and Tails hanging out - eating chili dogs, reading comics, playing games etc.; before finding out what Robotnik's scheme of the day is or discovering a problem that they wish to solve, usually via a guest character. They're shown as always on the move from place to place and it gives Mobius a feeling of deeper backstory and people.
As well as exposition, these scenes also establish Sonic and Tails as adoptive siblings who look after each other, with Sonic as the older brother, even going so far as to show them doing chores. It does a good job of selling these two as friends who like to hang out and travel the world in search of adventure. The little moments also serve as pauses/breathers in the runtime, which is why the idea of this show just being zany antics is somewhat misguided.
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The game's idea of Tails meanwhile is an independent character who happens to be Sonic's superfan/friend, it's a good one but like so many SEGA ideas they half-bake it; past Sonic Adventure 2 Tails more or less only shows up with Sonic because the plot needs it, and serving as the exposition dump/tech guy (the latter role being filled by guest characters like Caninestein in AoStH). Like a lot of the things in the games their friendship feels like something that's told rather than shown. In fact it's one of the things I like about Sonic Unleashed where Sonic and Chip do similar "Let's go to this place and have a snack" moments.
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In the games defence, there is an expectation that you don't take too much time away from the player, and what time you do allocate to cutscenes you want to fill with epic action or exposition dumps to move the plot forward. Certainly I wouldn't want a Metal Gear Solid length cutscene where Sonic and Tails are discussing this season's football transfers.
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However, I don't think it's impossible to show these two doing something like fishing or watching a movie for a brief moment at the start of an adventure or between acts in a game, it would certainly sell them as friends more. As for the independence bit, to be brutally honest Tails fans it's called Sonic the Hedgehog not 'Middle Aged Man is Bothered by Annoying Teenagers', so Sonic is nearly always going to be central to the plot. At least until we get Tails Adventure 2: This Time it's Personal
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#AoStH#Sonic the Hedgehog#Tails#Not Another Ramble#Super Robotnik#Sonic Breakout#Submerged Sonic#Blackbot the Pirate#The Last Resort (AoStH)#Spaceman Sonic#Miles Tails Prower#Sonic and Tails#AoStH Sonic#AoStH Tails#Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog
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Sonic 4 movie. Theories and predictions
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Hello everyone! I finally watched Sonic 3, and I can confidently say it was one of the best experiences I’ve ever had in a movie theater! It had been such a long time since I felt so much emotion and joy watching a film. The last time I experienced these feelings was with Michael Bay’s Transformers movies, especially the fourth and fifth installments. Just like back then, when I was super excited for the next movie, I now have the same anticipation for the fourth Sonic movie.
In the post-credits scene, we saw the first appearances of Metal Sonic and Amy, which already gives us a taste of the continuation of the Sonic live-action franchise. That’s why I’d like to share my theory about what might happen in the next movie and which game from the Sonic saga it might adapt.
AND... Just as Sonic 1 was an adaptation of the first classic game, Sonic 2 represented the second game, and Sonic 3 was based on Sonic Adventure 2, I believe the fourth movie will also follow this adaptation formula.
My idea is that the fourth movie will be inspired by two games: Sonic CD, where Metal Sonic makes his first appearance, and Sonic Heroes, where Metal Sonic becomes the main antagonist. In Heroes, he evolves into Neo Metal Sonic and later into Metal Overlord, the final boss. I believe the concept of time travel, central to Sonic CD, could be key to the plot of the next movie.
Now, let’s dive into the possible plot of the fourth movie and how the story might unfold.
Probably, Metal Sonic came from the future and returned to the past with the goal of defeating Sonic, driven by frustration at never being able to defeat him definitively. In turn, future Amy, upon discovering Metal Sonic’s plan, decides to also travel to the past to protect him. This could explain the post-credits scene where we see Amy hooded.
This raises some important questions: How did Amy know where Sonic would be, and how did she know who he was? The most logical answer would be that, in the future, Sonic and Amy eventually meet, and she decides to go back in time to save him. Another key point of the potential plot would be the origin of Metal Sonic. After all, who created him, considering that Dr. Eggman died in the ARK explosion in the third movie? While Shadow survived because he’s practically immortal, Eggman is just a regular human, making it extremely unlikely that he escaped.
With that in mind, here are some possibilities regarding Metal Sonic’s creation:
Agent Stone as the Creator:
Stone, loyal to Dr. Eggman, could create Metal Sonic as a way to avenge his mentor’s death. This would continue Stone’s arc, showing how he seeks to keep Eggman’s legacy alive.
G.U.N. and Director Rockwell:
Another possibility is that Director Rockwell, who showed distrust toward Sonic and his team, decides to create Metal Sonic. After the events of the third movie, where the planet was nearly destroyed, she might use Metal Sonic as a weapon to eliminate Sonic, believing that he and his team are too uncontrolled.
Eggman as the Original Creator:
There’s also the possibility that Dr. Eggman created Metal Sonic a long time ago, perhaps after returning to Earth at the beginning of the second movie. However, due to the humiliation he suffered when defeated by Super Sonic, he might have abandoned the use of Metal Sonic and kept the project stored along with other copies. These copies could have been activated later, continuing the storyline.
Any of these options could fit well into the fourth movie’s plot, depending on how the writers choose to proceed with the narrative.
Even though the three movies so far have adapted elements from the game franchise—two from the classics and one from the modern games—they contain many original elements. For example, Sonic’s origin was adapted for the movie, and the story takes place on Earth, not on his home island or planet of origin. Additionally, the Master Emerald wasn’t found on Angel Island but on Earth, and Shadow didn’t live on the ARK in space but also on Earth. So, it’s likely that the fourth movie will also introduce original elements while incorporating important aspects inspired by Sonic CD and Sonic Heroes.
Now, here’s my idea of how the fourth movie’s plot could unfold:
Just like in the second and third movies, Amy could appear after the movie starts, similar to how Tails was introduced in the second movie and Shadow in the third. The movie would likely begin with an introduction to Sonic and his team.
After the boys (Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles) decide to organize another friendly race, Sonic gets too far ahead and ends up in New York City. This becomes even more confusing due to the time difference since he, Knuckles, and Tails live on the other side of the United States with Tom and Maddie. It’s at this point that Metal Sonic and Amy enter, as hinted at in the post-credits scenes.
After Sonic is attacked by Metal Sonic and saved by Amy, he’s full of questions. He wants to know who she is, how she knows his name, and how she knew where to find him. His questions are similar to those he asked Knuckles and Tails when he met them. Amy then explains that she came from the future to help him defeat Metal Sonic once and for all.
With no other choice, Sonic decides to take Amy home. There, he introduces her to the rest of the team, and they begin discussing what’s happening. Amy explains that she came from the future to warn him about Metal Sonic and save him. She details Metal Sonic’s origin, explaining that he’s after Sonic to defeat him once and for all since he couldn’t win in the future. That’s why she followed him to the past, both to warn Sonic and help him in his mission.
With this information, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy decide to form a team to face Metal Sonic. However, upon realizing that their enemy is extremely powerful, Sonic concludes that the only way to defeat him is by using the Master Emerald again to transform into his Super form and destroy him once and for all.
However, there’s a problem: at the end of the last movie, Sonic 3, Sonic lost his Super form while preventing a global catastrophe. During that moment, Shadow was also in his Super form but stayed behind after the final explosion. This caused the Chaos Emeralds to scatter across Earth due to the impact. Now, Team Sonic must gather the Emeralds again to have any chance against Metal Sonic.
Meanwhile, G.U.N. also steps in. After the events of the third movie, the organization begins questioning how Sonic and Shadow were able to prevent such a large-scale catastrophe. They eventually discover the existence of the Chaos Emeralds and, upon understanding their immense power, decide to locate them to keep them "safe." After all, the Master Emerald is seen as an extremely dangerous weapon, capable of turning a person into something close to a god.
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This is where Rouge enters the story. As a G.U.N. spy, she’s sent to locate the Chaos Emeralds before Team Sonic. This sets up a race between both sides: Team Sonic needs the Emeralds to save the world and defeat Metal Sonic, while G.U.N. wants to capture them to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands (even though, for Sonic, that includes themselves).
This intense competition between Sonic and his team against G.U.N. adds a layer of tension and urgency to the film, especially since both sides have legitimate motivations for wanting the Emeralds. However, G.U.N.’s belief that Team Sonic isn’t trustworthy might spark conflicts and tense moments between them.
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During this race to recover the Chaos Emeralds, Metal Sonic comes into play. He ends up encountering both sides—Team Sonic and G.U.N.—leading to a major battle among everyone, adding more tension to the plot. At this point, Shadow, who still holds a grudge against G.U.N. for what they did to Maria, temporarily joins Team Sonic. His main motivation is to prevent G.U.N. from keeping the Chaos Emeralds, as he believes the organization doesn’t deserve that power.
Since Shadow has a direct connection to Chaos energy, similar to what we saw in Sonic Heroes, Metal Sonic manages to obtain one of Shadow’s quills. He uses the power contained in it to amplify his abilities and eventually evolves into Neo Metal Sonic. By combining Shadow’s power with the Chaos Emeralds, Metal Sonic reaches his final form: Metal Overlord, the final boss in Sonic Heroes.
However, before this happens, G.U.N. manages to capture the Chaos Emeralds, putting them temporarily ahead in the race. At this moment, Rouge, true to her nature as a jewel thief, betrays G.U.N. She steals the Emeralds, but her escape doesn’t go as planned. She soon realizes the situation becomes critical when Metal Sonic, now more powerful, begins transforming into his primitive forms, leaving a trail of destruction in his wake.
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Seeing no other choice and recognizing that Team Sonic is the only hope to defeat Metal Sonic, Rouge hands over the Chaos Emeralds to them. With the Emeralds in hand, Team Sonic activates the Master Emerald’s power, allowing Sonic to once again transform into his Super form. With this power, Sonic faces Metal Overlord in an epic final battle.
Shadow’s role at this moment remains uncertain. He might join Sonic in his Super form, as he did at the end of Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Heroes, or he might choose not to intervene directly. Regardless, this battle serves as a major climax for the film, bringing both classic and original elements to the story.
Although the previous films have adapted elements from the games, they’ve also added their own unique ideas, and it’s likely the fourth film will follow the same trend. The movie universe, after all, is separate from the games’ universe, giving the writers creative freedom to develop new stories and explore different dynamics between the characters.
Regarding Shadow’s presence in the fourth film, I believe he’ll play a key role, as his connection to Chaos energy is crucial for Metal Sonic’s transformation into Metal Overlord. Shadow’s involvement would also be an opportunity to further explore his relationship with his past and G.U.N., as well as strengthen the dynamics within the movie universe.
Introducing Rouge, hired by G.U.N. to steal the Chaos Emeralds, would be an excellent way to bring the character into the cinematic universe. This initial role, where she infiltrates as a spy and later betrays G.U.N., demonstrates her cunning and independence while establishing her motivations. By the end of the movie, Rouge could team up with Shadow and Agent Stone to form the famous Team Dark, opening doors for future storylines.
As for Omega, his introduction would be a bit more complicated. However, one possibility could be Agent Stone reactivating one of Dr. Eggman’s old robots, as Omega was originally created by Eggman to serve as a guardian and companion. This idea would fit well with the theme of reclaiming Eggman’s legacy in the movie, but his presence would need to be carefully balanced to avoid overwhelming the story.
Introducing too many characters in the fourth movie could be a challenge. While it’s exciting to expand the cast, it’s essential to keep the story’s main focus: the showdown between Metal Sonic and Sonic. In the first three movies, new characters were introduced in a balanced way, always keeping Sonic at the center. This balance ensured that Sonic’s protagonism remained intact, even with the addition of significant figures like Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow.
Therefore, while Rouge and Shadow’s presence seems essential, adding more characters like Omega could be challenging without diverting attention from the main plot. It’s important that the movie continues to highlight Sonic as the main hero, ensuring that new additions complement the story rather than overwhelm it.
The dynamic between Sonic and Amy in the fourth movie could indeed follow a friendship and camaraderie approach, similar to what we saw in the Super Mario Bros. animated movie. Just as they portrayed Princess Peach as a strong and independent warrior alongside Mario, Amy could be presented as a powerful and strategically important ally, without forcing a romantic relationship between her and Sonic.
Although Amy is traditionally Sonic’s romantic partner in the games and series, SEGA has already clarified that their relationship isn’t canon. This decision reinforces the creative freedom to adapt the character in the cinematic universe while maintaining the individuality of both characters. Sonic, with his adventurous and carefree personality, would hardly fit into a romantic role in the movies, as it could shift focus from his journey as the protagonist.
In the movie, Amy could be presented as someone who shares the same goals as Sonic, fighting alongside him and his team against threats like Metal Sonic. The post-credits scene of the third movie already gave us a glimpse of her combat skills and confidence, highlighting her iconic hammer as her weapon. This suggests her presence in the fourth movie will be more as a warrior and strategic ally rather than a character dependent on Sonic or hopelessly in love with him.
This approach also creates a more modern and inclusive dynamic for the audience, showing that a female character can be equally strong and independent without being defined by a romantic relationship. A deep friendship and mutual respect between Sonic and Amy could strengthen the development of both characters while maintaining the adventurous and lighthearted tone that characterizes the franchise.
Finally, let’s talk about the possible post-credits scenes of the fourth movie, which always leave clues for the next chapter in the franchise. Since it’s been confirmed that the fourth movie won’t be the last—the idea is to create a quintology (five movies) and not a sextology—it’s very likely that the post-credits scenes of the fourth movie will introduce a new character or hint at the plot of the next movie.
One of the strongest speculations among fans is the possible appearance of Silver the Hedgehog in the post-credits scenes. This would make perfect sense since Silver is a central character in the Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 game, whose storyline revolves around time travel. Just as Amy and Metal Sonic are essential to the plot of the fourth movie, introducing Silver in the post-credits scenes would be the perfect bridge to address the plot of Sonic 2006 in the fifth movie.
Silver could appear from the future, on a mission to alter past events to save the chaotic future he came from. His arrival would bring new dynamics to the story and expand the Sonic cinematic universe, exploring themes like fighting to change destiny and the challenges of time travel.
However, I prefer not to delve into theories for the fifth movie just yet, as the fourth movie hasn’t even been released. I think it’s better to wait for the official release of the fourth movie to understand the clues they’ll leave behind and then develop more solid theories about what to expect in the fifth film.
And that’s it, everyone! This is my theory for the fourth Sonic movie. I know some ideas might seem a bit out of the box, but as we’ve seen in the first three movies, they don’t exactly follow the stories from the games. There are many original additions and changes to fit the Sonic universe into the cinematic narrative, and I believe the same will happen in the next film.
If you’ve read this far, thank you for reading my theory! Now I’d like to know your opinion: what do you think might happen in the fourth movie? Share your ideas, and let’s keep this conversation going! :)
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In response to the Anon wondering what will change Shadow's mind, thinking about it, I hope they do a kind of build up of challenging his perspective and Team Sonic/The Wachowski Family as a whole lead to it, rather than one singular scene or speech that flips his perspective at once. I hope he's brought to be at odds between Gerald's vengeance and the Sonic family's love (that reminds him of Maria) and that's what does it.
I think that'd be a really neat way to do it. I'm a lifelong Sonic Adventure 2 fan, and I adore Amy, but I've always personally felt that scene was abrupt and his switch could have been built up to even more.
Anyway, that Anon just brought up a thought, I'm just rambling in your inbox, feel free to ignore!
I love these rambles from yall!
I hope wachowski family hugs so hard in front of Shadow it makes him absolutely sick
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