#it’s not Gale he’s not a team with them
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So my friend @knightsweeties has been getting me to think about DC lately. And one of the things I’ve been doing what my take would be on some of the heroes and villains. At the time we have only talked about Gotham.
So I wanted to share my Take on one of DC’s greatest Villains, The Joker
Gale Cut: The Joker
What would I do differently with the Joker?
I think the biggest problem with the joker is that DC seems to forget what the Joker is. He isn’t just some chaos loving guy dressed as a clown. No, he is a Clown that wants to make fun of society! Everything he does is for the sake of the bit! That’s what the joker is, a clown committed to the bit in an insane degree.
All his plans need to revolve around a joke, and if the joke isn’t funny, he won’t do it.
Now for example. Joker could be reading the newspaper and see how the cost of fuel has gone up.
So what does he do? He fills the entire street with Whoopee cushions because he wanted to show Gotham has a real “Gas Problem”
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Maybe he runs into a renown surgeon and decides to cut his limbs off and reattach them so he can have him “In stitches”
Or maybe Gotham is having a lobster festival. So Joker decides to light the coast line on fire. To help bring things to… A boil.
The point is Joker only wants to make jokes and do what’s funny to him.
Is he still psychotic and kills people? Absolutely, but only if he thinks it’s funny.
Joker will never do something if he doesn’t find it amusing. Thats the point. He only cares about the comedy of the situation.
And before anyone says this joker is soft. He is not.
He kidnapped orphans and injected them with joker venom. His joke was that “You can’t kidnap unwanted children. What I did was adoption.”
He then proceeded to blow up the orphanage with most of the staff inside and send the jokerized kids to every school in Gotham to show how the school system was “The real joke.”
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Now for his relationship with Harley.
Oh it’s still toxic but very different.
Joker didn’t manipulate her with some sob story.
Joker simply made her laugh. He could tell that deep down that she needed someone that got her humor. And as someone that appreciates a good sense of Humor, joker recruited Harley.
Though instead of a toxic domestic abusive relationship, I decided to go a different direction.
Joker doesn’t understand emotions, and thus Doesn’t get that Harley is in love with him. If she ever confessed to him, he would look confused and ask what the punchline is?
To Joker, Harley is someone that can provide feedback if a joke is funny. And if she likes the joke. More of a reason to do it. Because if someone else finds the joke funny, that’s even better!
Though Joker isn’t above slapstick if Harley messes up his plans. But it’s never a portrayal of abuse in the domestic abuse sense. More like him slapping her with a trout.
To Harley, Joker is someone that showed her the truth. Society is a joke, and all it needs are people to show the people the punchline.
Now if something were to happen to Harley or if Harley stopped getting the joke. Joker would shrug and move on. He does value her insight and her opinion, but to say it is genuine care is incorrect. If it means a funny enough gag. He’d kill her without hesitation.
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Joker being in love with Batman is dumb to me. He’s also not Batman’s true opposite. So for their dynamic I actually did change it.
Joker sees Batman as the funniest Joke in Gotham. A grown man dressed as a bat fighting crime in a city more corrupt than anywhere else? That’s pure comedy.
Joker even asked Batman to team up with him early on. “You’re a bat, I’ve been driven bats. We’d be a great comedy duo!”
But what joker found out was that Batman has no sense of humor. He needs to make this man laugh!
Joker views Batman as the straight man in the comedy routine. Having him react is what he wants!
Batman sees Joker as insane, and in need of help. So despite everything, believes there is still someone that can be saved.
Joker doesn’t care about Batman’s identity. It would be like finding out the punchline to a joke without the set up. And if anyone tried to spoil it. He would kill them.
Now Joker is willing to kill Batman, but only if the way he kills him would be funny enough to justify killing him. Joker only cares about what’s funnier
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What’s Joker’s backstory?
It doesn’t matter. And joker likes it that way. All he knows is that he had one REALLY bad day. And that’s all he needs to know.
Anything else would be unnecessary.
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the fundamental difference between katniss and gale.
katniss contrasts the people from the seam and the merchants, because she knows the former have it rougher, but she not only knows the anger towards the merchants would be misdirected, but she also learns that peeta, who had it easier than her, isn’t as wealthy as she imagined, that his family, despite not battling starvation, only eats the leftovers because they can’t afford fresh food. her only friend at school is the mayor’s daughter, someone gale resents.
so the problem must be with the other people in the districts. but it’s not, and katniss knows the capitol tries to keep the districts alienated from each other to fuel the feeling of distrust and discourage their union. she learns from rue that people in district 11, for example, also struggle to put food on the table, despite its economy being agriculture, workers there can’t eat what they harvest.
would the problem be the careers, who eat better and train their whole lives to win the games and get the glory? but they are children as much as any other tribute. she can’t bring herself to hate marvel. despite him killing rue, he also appeared vulnerable in his death. cato’s death is much crueler, and after katniss’ act of mercy, both her and peeta feel hollow at his death. the problem isn’t with the other tributes too. meanwhile gale compares killing other tributes to killing animals.
so it has to be the capitol citizens… but she still can’t bring herself to hate them, because not only katniss understands they have different upbringings, and she herself wonders how different she would be if she was raised in their environment, but she learns that, despite being sometimes alienated to the point of acting insensitive, most of them are willing to help, they cry for her for having to return to the games and they respect and are nice to her mother. katniss doesn’t want her team to be tortured at district 13, because she knows it’s wrong, something gale can’t bring himself to comprehend, simply because they are from the capitol.
katniss’ anger isn’t misdirected, she remembers who the real enemy is, which would be snow, but also coin, the political leaders that put the people in those positions for their own interest and safety. i don’t believe gale would kill children wholeheartedly, but he does believe in “necessary evils”, like taking the easier solution with the nut, the one that would have more casualties, and he designed the bombs that killed children and healers and sisters. so where do you exactly draw the line when it’s all extremism?
gale and katniss have the same upbringing, have gone through similar experiences, losing their fathers on the same accident, signing up for the tesserae, battling against starvation, getting their district bombed, but they go on opposite directions. gale falls into extremism because he sees human life as expendable. katniss extends her compassion, because rebellion comes from loving humanity and believing a better life is possible. fire can’t burn enough to turn everything into ashes. the last chapter or the epilogue isn’t a surprise, it’s just a synthesis of what has been going for three books.
#i said some of this in my lost old blog in an ask about gale but#thg rereading#katniss everdeen#gale hawthorne#thg#the hunger games#thg analysis#bella.txt
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I know it has been said before but the girl + two guys trio is really unbeaten. Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Lockwood, George, and Lucy. Percy, Grover, and Annabeth. Peeta, Finnick, and Katniss.
#that last trio: I said what I said#it’s not Gale he’s not a team with them#also what other trios like this can y’all think of?? I know there are more#Jill Eustace and Tirian maybe
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thinking about ppl reading: “I thought I was something of an expert on hunger, but this is an entirely new kind.” v “I reach forward and press my lips against his. We taste of heat, ashes, and misery.” and still wondering who katniss liked😭😭like ma’am
#wondering what team gale folks were on bc the level of gaslighting is admirable#the hunger games#thg#everlark#katniss everdeen#peeta mellark#they needed it spelled out#katniss: im gonna be with gale bc otherwise hes gonna be butthurt and being w peeta could put ppl in danger#ppl: damn she really loves them both
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Bucky, very seriously: You need to stop doing weird things to cope with the stress. Going outside might help. Buck: I went to the park today. Bucky: There you go! I hope you got something from that. Buck, opening his coat: This duck.
#buck brings pets home when he sees them injured or smth#bucky convinces him to keep them#they're the best and the worst team#clegan#buck x bucky#gale cleven#john egan#bucky egan#buck cleven#mota#masters of the air#mota incorrect quotes
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This plan actually worked incredibly well and made the whole fight ezpz
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#I specifically loaded Gale up with all the movement/status spells knowing he could concentrate on them while I go in and do something stupid#it's working great we're a good team#bg3#baldur's gate 3#bg3 spoilers#act II spoilers#tav#croissant adventures#gale#comics#Gish Far'aag#before anyone comes for me I messed up getting into the passageway in that room and didn't know you could open it with violence#so I just went back out the way I came ngjkfldh
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An older and a slightly newer concept for stalien Odile
#keese draws#eternal gales#isat#isat odile#was going to doodle her some more but erm. didn’t want to.#anyways sorry gamers but this au is still alive and well#I also technically have an older bonnie concept but I don’t like it so. :p#rip isa and mira I have vague ideas for them but nothing I’ve drawn#the main problem with those two have been deciding energy types because I rly rly want mira to have purple energy#but then she can’t be the team healer and I’d either have to make someone else the team healer (aka isa he’s the only one leftover)#or have No healers which I’d rather not do#and it’s not even like I have good reason to give mira purple energy try as I might I don’t think I could justify her using it much#she she’s probably going to get. sigh. green energy.#which leaves isa as my wildcard I have no ideas for him#I’d like to avoid repeats ofc but that still leaves him with 4 options#well ok I’m not giving him blue energy I do not want him to be a blue eyed white boy#I guess I could give him a pale variant so I don’t shave to worry abt any abilities?#like pale purple maybe#still doesn’t rly click with me but eh that’s future me’s problem#oh for context bonnie has claimed pink already and sif got dibs on red#<- the context means nothing to 99% of ppl rip
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Gale would’ve been so much better off had he been written as Katniss’ cousin
#all my beef with him is solely bc of that ‘love triangle’ bullshit#he’s so nuanced as a stand alone character but unfortunately a lot of that is thrown away by the fandom in favor of#‘team peeta vs team gale’#and it makes me so mad#his character is so much more outside of that. he’s a revolutionary who had to watch his home burn#and is the one who was responsible for the survival of hundreds of people even if he couldn’t save them all#his anger and rage at his oppressors was taken and weaponized by coin#every time someone calls him the ‘prim reaper’ an angel loses its wings#call coin that she’s the one who orchestrated the whole thing#coin and snow can suck my dick#gale hawthorne#the hunger games#thg
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Obsessed with how Gortash in "Empty Prayers" AU fits in with the team.
He is a failed chosen of god, as well as Gale, Shadowheart, Nemo and somewhat even Lae'zel.
He is the war criminal type with a really cool class/subclass. He has (bad) history with Karlach and Wyll (due to kidnapping of his father) and (good) history with Nemo.
The party of Gale, Nemo, Gortash and Astarion is pretty much "bad and/or questionable decisions" bingo. They can not be allowed to go out exploring like that because things will go badly (for everyone else involved).
He wants to rule the world, but doesn't have the means to anymore + his former patron god WILL torture him endlessly if he dies, so he cannot die.
He WILL have to learn to rely on other people bc not only he doesn't have a choice in that, but his own survival is closely linked to how well he'll adjust to the new reality.
He probably tries to avoid sleeping or sleeps as little as possible at first because he doesn't trust anyone in the camp but Nemo, and Nemo is kind of the reason of his downfall, so it's complicated.
Nemo has to convince him to sleep and stay guard for him because Enver lowering his defenses amidst strangers and enemies? Absolutely not.
The awful adjustment from being at the top of the world to being at the end of the food chain (again). The determination to climb back no matter what.
The fact what he wears his coat at all times bc without he is vulnerable to fear and that won't go.
Bonus point: Bane not answering his prayers and abandoning him while Bhaal tries to claim Nemo over and over again.
The "my god left me" VS "your god can't leave you alone". Hating Nemo for still having his god's attention, pitying Nemo because Bhaal is the last god you want to be acknowledged by.
#bg3 spoilers#enver gortash#lord enver gortash#dark urge: nemo#empty prayers au#no listen the banters with the team would be so great!!! also i have a feeling Gortash would get along with gale and Astarion both#gale DOES get inspiration from Gortash's coronation#and in some ways all three of them are power-grabby dumbasses#@gale's becoming god and astarion's ascension are somewhat alike to Gortash's rule the world tyrannical spree#it's fun to imagine how all three would interact at their lowest#gortash@astarion: you should use this ascension ritual for youtself#nemo spraying gortash with bog water: no he shouldn't leave him alone#gortash@gale: fuck mystra overthrow her reign#nemo hotting him with a newspaper: no! down. no one becomes a god gods SUCK#gale: ok but i would be different i- *gets hit with a newspaper*#but also gortash@lae'zel: fuck vlaakith. what did she ever do for you?#everyone: *nods*#gortash: and FUCK Shar#everyone: *nods faster*
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For my first playthrough of bg3 I think I'm gonna try to not romance anybody and just be friends bc I think that's the best outcome for literally everyone lmao
#OR i might romance gale bc he's so sweet n from the little i know about his past relationship i feel so bad for him 😭😭#orrrr from my understanding i might romance the tentacle guy or the demon guy bc i dont think they can join your team when you romance them?#idk but anyways ive got 2 more hours till it's done downloading im sooooo excited#the true ending to this game is the power of friendship lmaoo
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its absolutely rocking my fucking world right now to think about how completely and utterly lae'zel and shadowheart could be tricked into a fucking much ado about nothing gulling situation
#VERBATIM dialogue 'i do spy some marks of love in her.....'#sarah says 'lae'zel would say this can be no trick. i have the truth of it from the wizard.'#the gulling teams are wyll + gale (lae'zel overhearing)#and astarion + karlach (shadowheart listening in with dread and terror)#bg3#astarion's idea. he posits its the only way to keep them from killing each other
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I don't go here but you're so right about gale, that's all
he is AWKWARD and ENDEARING and TOO SMART FOR HIS OWN GOOD
he has a CAT, a LIBRARY, and a self-professed WEAKNESS FOR A GOOD GLASS OF WINE
in all seriousness though, he is such a great character and i love him a lot!! he's definitely one of my top 3 baldursgate characters (shadowheart and wyll tie for #1 depending on my mood lol) and he deserves to be appreciated more!
#asks#anon#bg3#gale#at first i didn't care that much about him (dazzled by wyll and shadowheart) but later i realized how awesome he is#having a character you don't have any opinion on join your main party is a great way to start liking them it turns out#because you get to know them a lot better and see their storyline and character arc and stuff#and their banter. man. the little random exchanges between characters as you just walk around and explore? incredible. top marks#i actually really love his banter with karlach bc they always find ways to cheer each other up & make each other see the good in situations#a little tag team of wholesome happiness!!#beep
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astarion is so fucking funny as a character because conceptually he hits all the marks of a wet cat blorbo but in practice he's unbelievably hard to stand. i'll be on the bg3 companion guide and have to start CRYING from trying to find the shit under his section that gains approval. loses -15 points for gently suggesting we not massacre an orphanage in cold blood with the d&d equivalent of a nuclear warhead
#like all things considering i am still in act 1 so i'll grant you that i might just not be at the point where people start to like him#but please for the love of god he has me on my knees to be even a little redeemable. can we do one thing that's normal just as an entrée#my tav isn't even playing a straightedge good guy is the worst part they lose wyll and gale points for being too opportunistic if anything#but they still like them more than this bucko who's been all grumpy and harrumphing at their. lack of sufficient slavekeeping ? ?#SO confusing by the way because i thought i'd spoiled myself on his backstory and context makes those checks seem borderline contradictory#he's still a hilarious freak and i still have to respect the hustle#and i'll fucking do it but christ alive.#on top of that missing a lot of his scenes contributes because my dumbass is nearly starting the creche and long rested up to now about 3x#the party'll be wailing about sleep deprivation and i check their stats see they still have points ready to go and go nahh you're good#girl THIS is what i get for creating a peak performance shortresting steamroll team of fighter warlock monk and barb#managed to become so efficient i couldn't even get my blood sucked. can't have shit on the sword coast#next playthrough that mod for displaying the number of queued camp scenes is getting locked and loaded in or so help me#baldur's gate 3#bg3 liveblog
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I still have to finish act 3 and i want to wait a long time before replaying bc i can't do instant replays of games it feels weird. Also I need to do job stuff like remember when I was actively looking for more gigs? But if i ever replay bg3 should I make a new character that romances wyll or should i play AS wyll 🤔 i've been told playing as an origin character gives you some different dialogue/changes things a little and if I want more insight into anyone it's him
#plus then i dont have to miss out on a fourth teammate#cuz wyll is my ride or die he can't leave my team for more than a mission no matter what#which means i could only then add 2 more people to the team instead of 3 ykwim?#which would probably be shadowheart and karlach cuz ill be so honest#idrgaf about gale 😭 no offense sure hes great.#then id probably have lae'zel or astarion on my team again. maybe have one of them until jaheira comes along?#i know so little abt her....
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the new romance banters are kind of diabolical if you’re romancing multiple people 😭😭
#like shri’iia has currently slept with astarion and lae’zel and she had that moment with gale#then astarion asking gale how his pining is going knowing he just fucked who gale is pining for last night?????? that’s so rancid 😭😭😭😭#and lae’zel asking astarion why they haven’t slept together when they both slept w the same person LMFAO#this is so ….😭😭😭😭#ok but in shri’iia’s case -> sleeping with lae’zel and seducing gale are both tactical decisions since she’s deemed them#the most useful ones to have by ur side out of everyone in this camp#like lae’zel knows about how to get rid of the tadpole (purification) gale has a lot of knowledge abt the tadpoles#and knowledge abt the surface that shri’iia lacks. so she’s like ok im gonna team up w these two…! the rest are dispensable.#then she sleeps w astarion bc she’s panicking and in denial abt her oath breaking and she wants the distraction she’s offering 🙏#like hag romance was unintentional but then it turns into this genuine and sweet thing hehehehehehhe
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i hate being a faggot i have to think about how beautiful men would feel about and interact with my cats
#gale rated among the most comfortable sleeping spots for my very clingy kitties much to yhe chagrin of miss tara#sunny and moony think theyre all so sweet but are deeply frustrated by the amount of hair everywhere. moony verbalizes it more but sunny#feels it just as much. kaycee has never loved an animal more than she loves cuddles who is SUCH a weird cat theres a real kinship there#kale insists hes not upset they dont like him bc hes not a cat person (and is rated among the LEAST COMFY sleeping spots) but he takes it#so personally . SO personally. i dont have cats in my pokemon world but my team is just as clingy and im really not confident that ingos is#any better#solace cries any time luna deigns to lay on him this is actually pretty common. hes so dehydrated#trencil insists hes entirely neutral on the cats but i know he talks to them as much as i do. he offered dianne wine#the initial phrasing was bc i qas thinking abt gale but i definitely broadened this as i went. leshy is not allowed in my house but he#adores my cats conceptually. s@do is also not allowed in my house and still i find her on the couch surrounded by my cats#💌.txt
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