#it is nothing like it’s source material but it is so good

[katerinaaqu]

I disagree because the damage it did to the perception of the lore is much greater than the benefits. Like I have seen so many people coming into greek mythology before because of adaptations such as that. Like old series cartoons or stories till the books of reimagining like Miller or anything else. This benefit always happened no matter how terrible the adaptation was. Like I remember 20 years ago doing damage control on people who "learnt mythology" based on these terrible retellings and did so much damage which slowly led to this that we have nowadays; that an ancient belief system is nothing less than a fandom like marvel or DC and those like me who disagree should shut the fuck up and are called every name under the sun.

Exactly billions of people have learned from this and now it is completely impossible to talk about the real thing unless someone brings these "facts" about the thing on. People like me or some friends of mine who make genuine effort to introduce the REAL THING with posts and stories based on that are buried under the talk of these things. I have no doubt the careers of the actors elevated. The same goes with every Hollywood movie that was successful. That doesn't make it a likable concept at least as far as I am concerned. Music was great..the actors were passionate and brought this project to life but this dude could have created a much more faithful adaptation instead of treating a book that has raised hundreds of thousands of generations and has cultural significance AND was already screwed over by media before and instead he treated it the way it happened (PLOT WISE) that to me makes it even more disappointing as I said in the past.

Again I never said that I said that I am against it because it did more damage than good because it treats the while thing as a fun thing only and changes the perspective to the degree that he could have made an original story at this point and again I dislike it. Proof that every time I say that people always bring the emotional talk like this like "isn't it great music brings people together" or "the voice actors are good" etc. I mean it could bring people together in an original project or a project that actually respects the source material. The voice actors would have been good then too.

"They are meant for modern audiences" as if "modern audiences" are incapable of liking something linked to the past unless it is twisted beyond recognition. Or that "modern audiences" absolutely MUST have a faithful and proper introduction to other cultures unless it is ancient Europe or Egypt. Then it needs to be twisted. I remind you how many people complaint about how "culturally disrespectful" movies like Disney Mulan are and how people demanded a "better version" and about "greedy corporations" talk. But when Greeks speak up against twisted versions of myths then they are people who are gatekeeping or worse. Again it did more damage than good. If "modern audiences" need to see an ancient story in ways that the story is no longer itself then why make it in the first place? Make some other project. If the story gets in your way in THAT degree that you need to twist it beyond recognition to pass your messages then why choose that specific story to begin with?

And in the end of the day people are still allowed yo disagreements. Many things brought people together so what? That doesn't make me obliged to like it or speak well about it. And no it is not because again the damage it did to the perceived myths is too great and now people do jot speak of Greek myths. They speak on the retellings with some idea of Greek myths. It is impossible to hold a conversation about Greek myths without someone bringing these up. People assume that you speak on these simultaneously to the point that on tumblr alone we have to exist in small communities to actually speak on the sources without someone bringing retellings up. It is so tiring and frustrating and has scarred the talk of myths and past irreversibly..it was Going on for ages. Now it is just much worse because of the spread of the internet.

Most people on Tumblr: Yay! We can have a musical based on the Iliad! Me after seeing what happened with Odyssey plot especially the last saga and the fandom logic inserting the ancient sources (again):

[dreamyzworldlove]

how do i explain to people that one of the most formative fanfictions i’ve ever read is a polyamorous sanders sides fic that takes place in a small dubiously alive town in Appalachia where every child is taught to how to not get abducted by the fae that live in the forest. it also might be inspired by the crowned prince series

[deerspherestudios]

Hi! I just want to say that I like the new update for mushroom oasis! Can't describe it with my words but I really like your concepts for it!

I have a question to ask it's not a interesting one i think, why Mycehal call the mc firefly? It's pretty cute nickname but does he use it only mc when he found them?

Like i say it's not interesting one but i was curious, hope you have a good day and stay hydrated

Are you asking if he uses it only for MC, or for anyone he comes across? Personally, I think he only uses it for MC but it can also be accepted it's a given pet name to anyone he comes across (like how some people just comfortably refer to strangers as 'honey', 'sweetie', etc) and mean nothing by it. Both works ::-)!

Funnily enough there is a brief mention of why he uses it in the Day 3 script, so I don't think it makes the question uninteresting at all haha! Although that does mean it counts as spoilers (sorta) but he does explain why he calls you 'firefly' eventually ::-)

Then again I'm re-writing the Day 3 script so who knows, we'll see how it goes!

[twilight-deviant]

Interpretations I've seen for why Matt saved Fisk (from fans and articles):

He was a good man defending his worst enemy, referencing Dex's previous line.

Didn't want anyone to die.

Didn't want Dex to kill anyone else, no matter who.

Ironic parallel to him not saving Foggy.

Making up for trying to kill Dex in the premiere.

Parallel to pushing the man out of the way when he was blinded. Just who he is.

He really hates Dex.

Remorse after discovering Fisk is innocent in Foggy's death.

Keep Fisk alive to face justice. (For what?)

Make Mayor Fisk look bad if he ever goes after Matt Murdock publicly.

Mitigate fallout with Fisk for his return to vigilantism.

Guilt because he helped Dex escape. (Does he know that yet?)

Assassination would make Fisk a martyr to the public.

Only Matt gets to kill Fisk. (Doesn't kill Fisk.)

Fisk wants Matt to kill him. (Wha? This isn't 3x13.)

Saving Heather.

Catholicism

General heroism

Didn't mean to.

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Fascinating. No one gets it. You have to be a little unwell, I think, to get it.

[asgardian--angels]

things I wish I could relive for the first time again:

that magical window where you finish a new piece of media, having watched/read it all by yourself with no fandom contact whatsoever, and you are just so happy about it, and full of interesting theories and takeaways, and just in love with it as a gorgeous piece of art.

because I swear to god as soon as you join the fandom for anything, you're bombarded with how you're supposed to view characters and their arcs, how you're supposed to morally and ethically judge the plot and the ways it apparently failed to present the right message, and if you don't you'll either be shunned for not sharing the popular headcanons or you'll be harassed for not criticizing the source material enough.

like how is it that the fans of a piece of media are also the ones being the most negative about it? If I like a show or a movie or a book, well, I liked it. That's kind of the point. I'm actually not here to tear it apart and talk about how it didn't live up to standards other people had! I enjoyed it for what it was, and forcing myself to find negative things to say about it doesn't actually bring me more enjoyment of it or reap any benefit to me. Fandom's a double-edged sword; you want to join a community to share your love for a piece of art, and the price you pay for a modicum of joy is a mountain of negativity. that's one main reason that I never engage with fandom until I'm completely done with a show, because if I was plugged into all of that commentary and discourse during the process, I'd be completely colored by how I'm expected to interpret everything this piece of art is presenting to me without being able to even form my own opinions.

[markantonys]

is ROP lacking in the female character department or have i just been way too spoiled by the plethora of them in WOT? lmao

like, galadriel's excellent, 10/10 no notes. but it feels like the others are always playing second fiddle in a storyline the source material designed to be about men (disa, miriel), or are bopping around on a charming sidequest that, while important as a breath of lightness amidst the heavy stuff, is nowhere near as compelling as the ring-related storylines (nori, poppy). (or had to get written out due to the actress leaving; such a shame because i imagine bronwyn would've been a big player in the southlands storyline this season.)

and i think it mostly comes down to source material. i have a vivid childhood memory of reading the hobbit and then the fellowship of the ring and then quitting because i got bored and cranky about there not being any girls except for arwen in like 2 chapters, so i would not be surprised if much of ROP's source material is similar, where the vast majority of the important players are men. and the show is doing what it can to add in more ladies, but it's just tough to make them feel like they're on an equal level of narrative importance as the men for whom the story was originally designed.

and that makes me so incredibly thankful for WOT and the huge amount of story-driving women RJ baked into the story. i give him flak for some things, but in this regard he was truly ahead of his time! and ahead of OUR time, even today it's rare to see a (mainstream) story with such a wide array of female characters. and that's made the show's job easy; it doesn't have to fight the source material to make women important in the narrative, because they already are. i saw a text post the other day about "tasting the good bologna" and how you can never be satisfied with a mid-quality thing again after you've had the most luxurious version, and boy have i tasted the good bologna with WOT and female characters.

[mellowmaidenhairs]

i think ppl who are super online or into fandom should watch/read/etc something without ever touching fandom discourse or making aus or shipping characters just like every once in a while

[okimightbecrazy]

Me every time I hear people talking about Wizard of Oz characters in the context of Wicked: Okay, but Wicked is a fanfiction of the Wizard of Oz. You know that, right?

[transvampireboyfriend]

*banging on my mutual's bedroom door* CAN I PLEASE SEND YOU Y/N FANFIC THAT I WANT TO BE A HATER ABOUT

[lesbianralzarek]

sometimes the ships i hate arent even that bad, but just so far removed from canon that 90% of dogshit takes in the fandom are made by those shippers, so i develop a rage response to a ship thats just so whatever

[runebears]

sorry im just thinking about bcs but like. why not add a few smaller scenes of gus interacting with his own men? why does it seem like, in comparison, mike is almost immediately elevated to a higher status than those two in bcs purely because we actually get to see him having normal conversations with gus? like i understand they might not keep the plot moving as well because of the fact obviously if victor is currently doing something it’s because gus told him to etc. but for the most part all of the smaller interactions gus does have with those two ends up being in a somewhat high stress situation where it feels very tense between everyone. and it’s just like damn! is it always like that?? why do those two even care that much about their jobs if their boss is a bit of a dick? etc. i think even an additional scene or two with those guys (either alone or the both of them) talking with gus in a more normal situation could’ve both added a bit more depth into how gus treats his employees (we got a lot with how he treats lyle and co., but not a whole lot with the illegal side of things), how comfortable vic and tyrus feel around him in a calmer setting, and exactly why they both feel the need to be as loyal as they are to the guy.

and also on the other side of this i don't think it'd hurt to maybe elaborate on their pay just a bit..? i'm not saying to randomly put a number out into the atmosphere but i just mean some smaller things like. do they buy nicer things for themselves? what's their housing situation? what's their car situation? are the escalade / yukon their own vehicles or does gus just use those two for business situations? do they use them when they're doing their own stuff off the clock or do they have their own cars? etc. that can also help with understanding their motivations a bit. don't get me wrong i don't think they should be visibly rich or something because that's not what gus would want but just smaller things! cause it's easy to write their loyalty off as Well they probably get paid super well, which i'm sure is true, but if they don't show a single hint of that then what's the point. even something as simple as giving tyrus a nice watch, or maybe victor having a nicer looking gun, etc. something small like that. because as it stands right now the average 41 year old viewer who watched the show once only knows and will only ever know victor and tyrus as those two guys in the background who do random stuff for gus with no clear motivation. just the personification of "On it boss (salute emoji)". and to be honest this is true for a whole lot of fans who do watch the show multiple times and enjoy thinking about it more in depth, because on screen we barely have anything about the two.

and to be clear i'm not trying to say we should have an episode just for them or something like no i understand they're side characters. i understand we don't need all that. and i understand this is also primarily Jimmy's show. but it's not like these two are on the same level as like, arlo or paige and kevin etc. these guys have been around since brba. victor was literally introduced in the same episode gus was. and they are a huge part of gus's story, especially in brba. s4 wouldn't have been what it was without victor and tyrus. and in bcs, ignacio's situation wouldn't have been the same if it weren't for victor and tyrus as well. and i just personally believe that if their goal with gus in bcs was to go back and elaborate on how everything came to be and show what he was like a few years younger, they could've dragged victor and tyrus into that. and i think his character would've benefited from taking that extra step with those two.

[garlic-sauc3]

versions of booster gold made by people who obviously dont know much about booster can be so infuriating because they tend to depict him as stupid or as a joke and then people who only know him from these depictions in more popular media have a skewed impression of him

[angeloftrumpets]

this man website updated and

[hidingoutbackstage]

Tbh I feel like if your only interest in a fandom is in the popular aus that popular users make then maybe you don’t actually like the content of the media

[imminent-danger-came]

There ain't nothing Shera does that Lego Monkie Kid doesn't do better.

[neomedievalistbr]

she master on my chief till i collection