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It is a genocide.
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bottlepiecemuses · 5 months ago
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dude if even israeli jews are saying its a genocide, then you are in the wrong.
you are getting absorbed by the propaganda.
you are the bad guy.
now get out of here before you embarrass yourself further.
And Americans always calling their own country a dictatorship can it. People who say that Israelis think it's genocide is just weak sauce. You guys aren't the good guys because freaking this is what the side you say are the victims are capable of and then cry how persecuted they are. A lot of those tokens say this shit while ignoring their own people have gone through because they want virtue signalling worthless browning pointing.
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hebrewbyinbal · 1 year ago
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Where are all the voices? Israeli Women Matter! Silence is Complicity with evil. We are waiting..
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sorrowcastversion · 7 months ago
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Day 1 of reasoning with the Israeli-Palestininan Conflict: Occupation Logic
Is Israel/Palestine considered Occupied Territory?
Occupied Territory, according to international law, is defined as the following: "a territory is considered “occupied” when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army." Additionally, the law states that it can also be the case that "occupying forces do not succeed in establishing or exercising authority over a certain territory—for instance, because of hostile acts committed against them by combatants of the occupied territory. In such cases, humanitarian law does not consider these areas as occupied territories but instead as invaded territories. In other words, they are battlefields, and the rules that apply to them are the general rules of armed conflict."
Until 2005, Gaza was regarded internationally as being occupied by Israel. On September 11, 2005, The Israeli flag has been lowered over Gaza, symbolizing the end of 38 years of Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territory two weeks ahead of schedule." However, the Israeli army still made its presence know.
The Palistinian Officials' argument, written as philosophical logic:
If Israel were to ease military restrictions, terrorism and povery would cease to be a problem in Palestinian terrority.
Israel has not eased their military restrictions.
So, terrorism and poverity will continue to flourish in the region.
This can be shortened as follows:
If A, then B.
Not A.
So, not B.
The Israeli Officials' argument, written as philosophical logic:
If terrorism were to stop, Israel would be able to cease their military restrictions.
Terrorism has not stopped.
So, Israel will not ease its restrictions.
This can be shortened as follows:
If A, then B.
Not A.
So, not B.
Simply put: both Palestinian and Israeli Officials are using the same logic to justify their actions. This form of logic that BOTH parties use is invalid (AKA not a sound argument). The basis of their argument falls under the category of Denying the Antecedent, which is a standard logical fallacy. In other words? Neither side have demonstrated justified reasoning for their actions yet (meaning, in my research so far).
Up next: I'll be reading the entire Migration Patterns document from 1948 (which was translated into English and uploaded a few years ago to the web). This 29-page paper is cited by SO many sources that I've encountered, so I want to make sure I give it a thorough read. Stay tuned!
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Still Thinking Of Ariel And Krif
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There is never not a day when I just want Batman to come in rescue them both and their parents. I just want these boys to be safe. Just let them be safe and be out of harm's way. I really do wish that Bruce Wayne could swoop in, defeat Hamas, and rescue their family.
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miochimochi · 6 months ago
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Pro-Israel side will continue to say you support Hamas if you speak out against Israel's own evils. We've heard the evils of Hamas for many years. We've seen the videos of what Hamas has done. Hamas' crimes do not justify Israel's crimes. They are not a legitimate excuse. But Pro-Israels will hold up the few actual Hamas casualties as though Hamas is the target while ignoring the larger piles of innocents behind them, or worse saying they're all Hamas too, even the newborns. Israel doesn't want to just protect itself, it wants to cleanse the land and make it Israeli only.
Pro-Palestine side isn't free from any criticism either. No, not every Israeli is an evil colonizer. No, not every Israeli deserves violence against them. We should call out the actual Hamas supporters too, Hamas is pushing this genocide with their violence by giving Israel their excuse on the global and national stage. Hamas is a statist element in Palestine and has been a net negative (no surprise, considering Israel helped create them). They still have civilian hostages, the main thing Israel is using to justify their genocide. Israel has civilian hostages too, on record having tortured and murdered them too. There's so much bullshit all over this.
The enemy is the State. What flag that state waves doesn't matter. Those innocents that are killed in the name of that flag matter. Unite against the State.
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queka-store · 5 months ago
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(via "Love is love" Magnet for Sale by Queueka)
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demolition-queen · 7 months ago
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Another baby was attacked by Israel. Torturing a baby? They're monsters, I hate all Israeli genocidaires and they supporters.
Zionism is a terrorism!
STOP zionism!
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For anyone about to call this man antisemitic for supporting Israel, 1. He’s Jewish 2. He’s a Secular Jew and not a Religious one which means he’s more of a Jew than 45% of the RELIGIOUS ETHNO STATE.
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bottlepiecemuses · 5 months ago
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Israel is a SETTLER STATE who shouldn't even be there in the first place. The existence of Israel is a form of NEO-COLONIALISM.
For many decades, ISRAEL has KILLED Palestinians. What happened on October 7th was a form of RETALIATION for DECADES of GENOCIDE.
Let's make a list.
1) Hafia Massacre 1937
2) Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3) Hafia Massacre 1938
4) Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
5) Hafia Massacre 1939
6) Hafia Massacre 1947
7) Abbasiya Massacre 1947
8) Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
9) Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
10) Jerusalem Massacre 1947
11) Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
12) Jaffa Massacre 1948
13) Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
14) Jerusalem Massacre 1967
15) Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
16) Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990
17) Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
18) Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
19) Gaza Massacre 2008-9
20) Gaza Massacre 2014
21) Gaza Massacre 2018-19
22) Gaza Genocide 2023-2024 (ONGOING)
Israeli military has lined people up and killed them via firing squad. Israeli military has fire bomb hospitals. Israeli military puts Palestinians in CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
The humanitarian crisis in Palestine, because of Israel's doing, is at an all time high. 99% of Palestinians don't have access to electricity, almost every hospital is destroyed, and disease is running rampant.
Israel is genociding the Palestinian people, and you have audacity to say Israel is the victim?
You are the embodiment of revisionism and tone-deaf. You really want to say October 7th a cruel attack was retaliation when it was supposed to be a day for peace, but you guys took as a day when you could kill people because of your perceived victimhood. And perceived victimhood is a good description because you cry victim while ignoring the blood you have from killing Jews then say in an unironic tone that you guys lived in peace and harmony when that was bs to cover up Jews were treated like second class for centuries. Seriously, you guys were the one genociding and you guys eventually had people hit back for all the times you guys were putting people under their thumb. You guys don't want to own up to the consequences of war because you just want the rewards and never the negatives. Also again you forget they are lining up terrorists and not innocent people as you think. And again those places were filled with terrorists and you will go on denying it because you want a picture where they are unjustified attacks. Also Palestine is an example revisionist hiding Arab colonialism and then refute saying it wasn't the same.
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hebrewbyinbal · 1 year ago
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This is the reality.
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violottie · 8 months ago
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Boycott Israeli Dates this Ramadan, from Call 2 Action Now, 28/Feb/2024: (caption under images)
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This Ramadan, don’t break your fast with an Israeli date. Stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people.
Israel’s genocidal assault on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip has now killed tens of thousands. Palestinians, facing down Israel’s catastrophic violence, call on us to boycott Israeli products in solidarity with their struggle for freedom.
Follow this quick guide to boycotting Israeli dates:
• Always check the label when buying dates. Don’t buy dates that are produced or packaged in Israel or its West Bank settlements. If no country of origin can be found on the box, check the retailer’s website.
• One of Israel’s largest exporters is called Hadiklaim. It sells dates in supermarkets under these names: King Solomon, Jordan River and Jordan River Bio-Top, as well as under the labels of supermarket chains. Check the box carefully, if the dates were “exported by Hadiklaim” – don’t buy them.
• Avoid these companies: Mehadrin, MTex, Edom, Carmel Agrexco, and Arava
#checkthelabel is not enough. Israel has been caught labelling their dates as ‘produce of Palestine’. Tesco, Sainsbury’s, Waitrose, M&S, Morrison, Aldi, Lidl and Asda package Israeli dates under their own labels!
Buy dates from Zaytoun, Alard, Yaffa, and Holy Land Date all support Palestinian Farmers. If you cannot get hold of these brands then buy dates from Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, UAE and Algeria.
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aestariiwilderness · 5 months ago
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If you do not know history -- you are doomed to be gullible about it. Jews. From the word "Judaea". Jews have called Israel home for thousands of years. It's on Roman documents, carved in stone, written in the Bible. It's literally emblazoned in their DNA. That Jews were native to this area was never questioned until Hamas needed a sympathetic narrative for young, foolish, wholly unschooled Americans to swallow hook, line, and sinker. Not that this should matter in the slightest in the face of the utter atrocities of October 7th and the avowed genocidal intent of Hamas -- there is no justifying that by any narrative! -- but the Jews ARE native to Israel. This is their land -- they came back to it in 1948, after being dispersed and hunted and driven out of it by the actual "colonizers" for centuries, with their own culture and language and name, as a unique people group. Something unprecedented and precious in the history of the world that no other people group has managed. They even bought their own land back -- swampy and supposedly "worthless" as it was then -- legitimately from the people who were camping out in it at the time.
The Jews are not the "colonizers" here.
a reminder that your advocacy for ending the occupation of Palestine should also extend to advocating for Indigenous and First Nations peoples' liberation in your own country. The anti-colonial struggle is a global one. Show up for Indigenous people everywhere you can because we are under occupation almost everywhere. Not to mention the Zionist occupation is supported almost exclusively by the colonial world powers. Your advocacy for the liberation for Palestine must go hand in hand with advocacy for First Nations liberation and Land Back.
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tomi4i · 7 months ago
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The land is ours
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bottlepiecemuses · 7 months ago
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Counterpoint: A lot of evangelicals would probably do it in solidarity because they would want to see it as support for Jews who are going through persecution. I know a lot Jews disagree with Christian seder but you should know evangelicals right now they totally would say f that and do it anyway because culture ain't going to dictate what they want to do. Seriously, I know evangelicals and they won't back down from being called zionists as well and wear it as a badge. Although seder not being a thing that Jesus did would be a good counterpoint that seder is more a Jewish exclusive thing and yeah Christians think twice about performing one, but celebrating Passover in general when Jesus celebrated is still not out there as well.
Look on youtube and you will see that yep there are still tons of them being celebrated and people celebrating Passover. Although again this does speak to really how anti-semitic this anti-Israel crowd is.
I’ve heard absolutely zero “Christian Seder” nonsense this year. And while I’m sure it’s still happening to some degree, I think it’s pretty obvious what happened. Doing a “Christian Seder” last year meant that Jews would call you out for cultural appropriation. But you could just ignore that— everybody ignores Jews on the internet anyway.
Doing it now means that you could get called a Zionist and get cancelled, doxxed, or hatecrimed. It’s not worth the risk to steal from us anymore. Jews get called genocidal fascists for the high crime of celebrating our holidays. Judaism is seen as a social and cultural poison, and nobody wants to steal poisoned fruit.
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bottlepiecemuses · 6 months ago
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I'm Not Pretending You Guys Need To Actually Talk With Jewish People Who Would Call You Out For Bashing Their Concept
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Seriously, Hazbin/Helluva Boss fandom you really need to stop being ignorant and actually learn was Zionism is and ironically not from anti-semitism despite you saying that Vivziepop is spouting anti-semitism. If you don't understand what Zionism is you are just being as anti-semitic as you claim Vivziepop is and funny enough I don't even think she is a good person. And despite you trying to slam her as being pro-Israel she is just as much on the stupid Israel hate boner train but you guys just hate she's not visibly more hateful about it like you bigots.
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You know why we need Zionism because this is a response to someone who died in the Hamas massacres which you guys ignore to pity pro-Palestinians who think that the way is unjustified when they started things and it's not disportunate when they still have found hostages and bodies there. So, in other words you are simping for a hate movement and want to be warriors against anti-semitism sit your butt down and think. You care more about some dumb drawing rather than the beliefs of Jewish people that should tell how shallow you are about fighting actual bigotry.
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