#isolde ragnarok

[annie-etoile]

Ragnarok: Isolde

el 24 de agosto se estreno la ultima temporada de esta serie Noruega 🖤 aquí uno de mis personajes favoritos.

[salmonpiffy]

List below

Current fav: Momo from Dandadan

Comfort character: Optimus from Transformers Prime

By design: Isolde from Reverse 1999

By plot: Kratos from God of War

Guilty favorite: Yoru from Chainsaw Man

All time fav: Wadanohara from Wadanohara and The Great Blue Sea

[nutmeggery]

this is Loki

and he's talking to the World Serpent which used to be an overgrown tapeworm he was "pregnant" with and then raised in a tank inside his bedroom before he released it into the wild where it's currently growing bigger and stronger to one day kill his brother Thor because the Norwegians weren't too afraid to make their Norse Mythology show at least a little bit weird and unhinged

[elif-in-wonderland]

Binge watching Ragnarok today and I have to say this was the best season of the series. The ending was a bit confusing but I liked the part where Thor had to die for Magne to live. I saw my girl Isolde as well ( I missed her so much). Still, I am a big #maxa shipper and I just loved the fancy and powerful vibes Magne and Saxa had together. But overall, the season was good, better than the other two for me :))

[yellowmagicalgirl]

Yay I finally have polls!

[thereadersmuse]

Some oaths didn't need blood to be sworn.

*Also posted on ff.net.

[scarlettpainter]

I watched ragnarok a while ago, so I am rewatching it, and I think isolde is pretty cute.

[bilbotargaryen]

In episode 5 when they showed how Isolde died. Another flashback frame had a guy come behind her and snap her neck? So how did she really die? Was that vidar

Yep. That was Vidar. As I understood it he snapped her neck then let her fly down with her parachute and, since she was already dead, she wasn't able to steer which lead to her crashing into the overhead line. And everybody just went with the accident crash instead of investigating further (except Magne ofc).

I believe, Magne knows this so clearly because Vidar had told him but I am not entirely sure about that.

I hope I could clear things up a little :)

[demonfairyprincess]

My take on Ragnarok series ending

So—to begin with—there's absolutely no way that all of it was Magne's delusion. Ignoring that it's not good writing, there were multiple scenes with god/giants that he wasn't there for, there were too many other characters involved for it to not have happened, and in my opinion, if they really wanted us to believe it wasn't real, they should have included flashbacks to what really happened instead.

(I mean, if Ran wasn't trying to shoot an arrow at Saxa to get back the hammer, how did Hod lose his eye? Their fight affected the people and town around them. What about Mange accidentally causing a boulder to crush the electric grid?)

How I interpret the finale, is that all of it did happen—the gods, the giants, Little O, the hammer—except the final battle in the last episode. In the beginning of that episode, Isolde's narration states that Magne's unsure of what to do now that there's no battle to be fought. He finds the comics that detail the stories of Thor, the stories he's been living. It's a cycle after all, one they just broke. He reads the comic about ragnarok, sees what had happened the last time. He goes to the graduation ceremony and sees the kid with the arrow. It's just like the arrow that killed Baldur. He imagines how it might happen, if they did fight the final battle, inspired by the old comic. But it's not real. They settled things peacefully and now he has to move forward. There's no reason to be Thor anymore. He imagines Thor's death. And he lets go.

Do I like this ending? Not really. It feels like they tried to have their cake and eat it too. Magne imagining the final battle feels like their way of showing an epic fight while still having a happy ending where everyone lives. They build up all this tension and half-follow through. I think it could have been worse, though, if they have shown the battle in its entirety and then imply it never happened. Since it wasn't clear to begin with if it was real or not, there's less disappointment.

Still, the rest of show's events were real. Aside from Turid's comments and the weird vague...flashbacks? nothing proves otherwise. It's just Magne having trouble moving forward.

[elif-in-wonderland]

Now, this is badass 🤭🤩 can’t wait 😜

[oneshortdamnfuse]

Major Ragnarok Spoilers for Final Episode Discussion

The Ragnarok ending only makes sense if Magne’s delusion is half true. It all being a delusion makes no sense, because doing so would pretty much erase any character development and plot points unrelated to Magne. Whereas, Magne experiencing delusions because of his loss and it becoming stronger because of his obsession with Thor and his embrace of that role is believable. That’s why when the main conflict ends, he can’t move past it. He still sees Ragnarok as inevitable, but his Ragnarok is allowing Thor to die so that he could live as Magne. Putting down the weapons was a way for everyone to process their grief and move on, but Magne needed more time to truly be comfortable with himself and properly mourn Isolde. With that said, it is just completely unbelievable for all of it to be a delusion. It’s just not built into the plot to deserve that ending with the interpretation that is was fully a delusion.

This isn’t like Mr. Robot where all the pieces come together to create a picture that was there right in front of us all along. If it was, then literally none of the conversations and conflict that happened outside of Magne’s view would have happened the way that they did. So, in order to incorporate the ending at all into my understanding of the canon, I can only accept it as half true which is fine. That’s how Legion dealt with the schizophrenia of its main character - some of the superhero fantasies were real and some weren’t. He is a superhero with schizophrenia, not just a man with schizophrenia. We’ve known Magne is neurodivergent, but it was also shown that he was being gaslit into thinking he’s crazy after Isolde’s death because of that neurodivergence. So, maybe it’s a balance of the two. The gods and the jotnar are real, and so was the conflict between them and the impact of that conflict on the town. But. It was distorted in Magne’s mind.

Anyway, I’m going to choose to go the Legion route with this one and interpret it as Magne being both mentally ill and having a special connection with Thor just as Laurits has a special connection with Loki and so on and so forth. It makes the most sense. As I said before, if you want to reject the last episode entirely then you could easily stop at episode five of season three and preserve the integrity of the show. Again, if you were satisfied with the ending then that’s okay too but it really isn’t proven throughout the show that this is all just the fantasy of a sick young man who lost his only friend. It can argued that some of it may be, but definitely not all of it. That’s not congruent with the past two seasons, or anything in season three leading up to it. In order for it to be, other characters would have to play a more active role in dropping hints that it’s not real and that doesn’t happen.

So, yeah. I understand the show was only given three seasons to wrap up. I get that. However, that was a cliché I didn’t expect and it’s not a “wow, they got me!” moment - it’s a wow, that just doesn’t vibe with the rest of the show I’m afraid.

[yellowmagicalgirl]

Cold Hands, Gigantic Heart

While on the run from Edda and the Jutuls, Isolde gets cold.

Disclaimer: I don't own Ragnarok, and I have never been to Norway so there might be some places where the setting details are wonky. I also haven't finsihed season 3 yet, so please no spoilers!

This was written for Jubileen on AO3 for the 2023 Battleship Exchange.

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SquidgeWorld

It was a long trek from Edda to their destination. It was even longer, since Saxa and Isolde were travelling on foot. They had initially been sharing a bike, but after a recent crash the bike had been wrecked. Maybe, if they had been able to stay in one place for a month, they could have gotten it back from a repair shop. It would have taken too long, though. They were being tracked despite their efforts. They had needed to leave the other Jutuls' sphere of influence so that Isolde would be safe and Saxa wouldn't be dragged back.

It wasn't easy. Saxa's back hurt from sleeping on the hard ground. She missed her nice, large, fluffy mattress. Maybe she had gone soft, but she was not looking forward to sleeping on the ground again tonight. Maybe, if they made enough progress on the hike today, they could stay in a hostel tomorrow night.

Saxa knew she wasn't the only one the walking was hard on. Isolde's shoes were wearing thin. Isolde would protest and claim that she was fine, that they didn't need to dig into what savings Saxa could take with them. Isolde didn't usually complain for herself, just other people. As it was, right now her teeth were chattering.

Saxa wrinkled her nose in confusion. Wait, what?

"Are you cold?" Saxa wasn't cold.

She's human, and humans are weak and short-lived, Vidar had said after Saxa had intervened, after she had told Isolde to run. We're the only ones who understand you, and you're going to give all that up for her?

Isolde turned to her. "How are you... right. You're not human."

Saxa took Isolde's freezing hand, listening to her girlfriend sigh at the warmth. "Yes, well, I'm sure you're happy for my nonhuman hands right now. Come on, let's go find a place to set up camp."

"Are you sure? There's still a few hours of daylight.

"It's just going to get colder. If we keep walking in the cold, you might get sick."

"Okay, okay. Beans for dinner?"

"I'll gather firewood."

An hour later, they were laying down together between two blankets that did little to keep Saxa from feeling every single piece of gravel. She didn't know how Isolde managed to fall asleep so quickly. As frustrating as the gravel was, at least Isolde wasn't cold anymore. Saxa's hand trailed up Isolde's chest, resting over her heart and feeling its steady beat. If Saxa hadn't been there, if she hadn't intervened, then it wouldn't be beating right now. She hadn't meant for their relationship to grow so close. It had just a way of keeping an eye on a potential threat to Jutul Industries. Now Saxa was a threat.

Isolde was human, and like all humans she wasn't as strong as a giant, nor was she as long lived. And yet, she was the strongest person Saxa knew, with a heart big enough to fit both the planet and Saxa in it.

And no one but time would take Isolde away from her. Not even the cold.

A/N: Fun fact: the alternate title to this was The Soles of Your Shoes Are All Worn Down (the Time for Sleep Is Now). I felt that it was too long, and more importantly, using an "I Will Follow You into the Dark" lyric for an AU where Isolde lives gave off the wrong tone.

[massiveharmonytiger]

Ragnarok really went from "Climate change and greedy corporations are forces of chaos that are destroying the world" to "neurodivergent climate activists are just immature and delusional actually, you all need to grow up and integrate."

"Also everybody loses people they love and no corporation has been personally responsible for that, ever."

Even if Magne really did have paranoid schizophrenia (which would have been cool as hell because I can't remember the last time I saw the hero of a story have schizophrenia, try never) writing literally everything that happened off as three seasons of psychosis is clumsy, patronizing, bad writing, and feels an awful lot like gaslighting. Sometimes I get the sense that writers don't think that much of their audiences. *eyes Sherlock and Loki writers*

I mean, even other aspects of the ending don't make sense. Like Signy's supposed to be the great love of Magne's life that drives him to mature or cures his mental illness or whatever but we get the bare minimum of the two of them interacting. If the entire resolution of the story hinges on a love story, then write me a damn love story. I mean, we basically just got introductions, oh, they're sleeping in the same bed now, never mind they're fighting now :( Nothing of substance. The same with Magne and Isolde's friendship. I get that she's supposed to have been his "only friend" or whatever (weird because he ends up with a whole table full of them at the end so apparently his psychosis made him come out of his shell, not the other way around) but even there he and Isolde only interact for half an episode at best for that kind of a trauma response. Maybe it's the combined trauma of his dad's death then Isolde's accident, but if that's the case, some flashbacks of Magne interacting with his dad could have really helped put the audience in his shoes. I truly don't know what they were thinking.

On a more positive note, really happy with episodes 1 - 5. Little O being set free, Laurits living his best life in his best look with his dream guy, confident Magne that learns to open himself up to others, Ran's silly little therapy sessions...if only they had left it at that.

[chillysbrainrot]

I just watched Ragnarok Season 3 and have some thoughts about it. Most of all, this is about Magne, and what I had in mind watching him throughout the series. Come scream at me with your own thoughts.

Keep in mind, this has some major spoilers of season 3.

Magne

I totally get him, I get why the writers had us living through everything and then just to end it without the huge fight everyone expected.

Magne himself: he is the lone, strange kid. Too big, too silent. Maybe he could be considered to be on the neurodiverse spectrum. He also struggles with being dyslexic and seems to be behind his peers. That alone makes him a pariah for most. Season 3 with the comics and Turid‘s speech made a lot of things clear. (Maybe Magne never really understood or worked through the death of his father Asbjorn. He had somehow to cope.) Magne used to flee into whatever he could to feel like he belongs, to escape reality and not feel „worthless/powerless“ all the time.

Turid: She wants to be helpful but can’t to seem understand either Magne or Laurits. The death of Asbjorn has forced her to be the sole provider for their family, she struggles with the problems they have and while she sees her children struggle, she doesn’t take the time needed to fully listen to them, thinking it’s just a phase most of the time we see her. It takes tragic accidents (and whatever really happened to Trym) for her to finally understand that something is really bad, that Magne needs help.

Isolde: She is an outsider herself, but it seems to be partially by choice. She is the one to see Magne, not his problems, but him, and really wants him to come out of his shell and learn to life. She sees him and he latched onto that, because for once someone doesn’t see the kid with problems but Magne as a human being. She seems to be the first.

Isolde‘s death: A major trigger. Magne began to feel human around Isolde and maybe blamed himself for her death because he was supposed to be with her. It also seemed to have triggered the episode of Magne falling back into the pseudo-reality he built to cope with the accident. The Jutuls were an easy target to blame.

Everyone against Magne: Teachers, the police, even his own mother seemed to be against him. Magne couldn’t understand the world anymore, He couldn’t understand why Isolde’s death wasn’t “as big of a deal” for everyone else as it had been for him. He felt betrayed by Erik especially because he was Isolde’s father and seemed to take it as it was. It didn’t make sense for him, because Isolde told him she was a good paraglider and why would she make the mistake to fly down in a thunderstorm? The police seemed to change their opinion again and again. He lashes out, flees into being Thor because then he could be strong, and look for the real reason.

Laurits seemed to be the first to understand that his brother really has some problems, and that he should stand with him (cue the Ran/Jutul-Parody). Laurits is also portrayed as hopping sides whenever Magne escalates because I think he is one of the few to call/disrupts Magne out of his parade/pseudo-reality

Police, Hospital and Medication: Magne visiting the psychiatrist and getting medication as a paranoid schizophrenic. Magne has lived through a traumatic experience with Isolde’s death and can’t seem to cope with it at all. They said he seemed to believe he needed to be a hero and to protect Edda from the evil of the Jutuls. He seemed to realize himself fleeing into the “Thor-identity” because he said: “I wasn’t myself” but fell right back into it. Did he ever take the medication, after the fight with Vidar, didn’t Turid ever force him to take it? Didn’t a doctor ever check in if Magne took his medication? Or did Magne already flee so far into this pseudo reality that he kept living it? (Maybe it is a major plothole)

Wench and Isolde’s words: Wench might be a bit strange, I would say she, while being a “strange old lady” somehow get’s Magne and means to be helpful to guid him along the way when others couldn’t. The vision of her turning to Isolde, saying she would always be with him (in his heart), is for me a step forward for him, because while he still seems to be trapped in his pseudo reality he starts to open up to others. The other gods come into play, Signy, and the other local kids. He becomes approachable but the war in his head is not over.

The other gods/friends: They became Magne’s friends along the journey but also fight with each other so often, or become strangers along the way again. Totally natural. Magne is more open to them, maybe even relates to them but a lot of it depends on his behavior. Whenever he seems to withdraw back into the “war in his head” he becomes unapproachable, even hurtful.

The Jutuls: They are, in his head, the enemy and source of all evil. An target to put his anger, instead to eat it up and let it fester. For him, they are at fault for everything bad that happens in Edda. Maybe they are for some of these: certainly a big company into mining rare resources has some skeletons in the closets.

Mjolnir: A power-fantasy. Magne felt useless, a loser. When everyone who was “hurt” by Jutul Industries turned him down on the rightful way, and people kept dying from the neglect by the Jutuls, he snapped and turned to the one thing that gave him power. It made him feel strong, but enstranged him to Signy and his brother, even the other gods/friends who at first enabled him to get stronger through it. It’s why it helped to have it at first. He had some sense of power because his friends helped him to believe in himself, he was strong, and didn’t need that “fantasy” for the time being. But when he felt helpless again? He needed that hammer, and needed to feel strong against the “Jutul threat”. Maybe he had a lawsuit that could stand in for the hammer, people certainly could be weary. The woman Magne found was the best example that Jutul Industries neglected their (former) workers. Maybe even after the death of the woman they had an ongoing lawsuit, up until it either got maybe dissolved, left for the time being or something else happened. Magne “lost” his weapon in the Fjord and the Jutuls had the hammer for a short moment, maybe the offered compensation in the “real world” and the family of the woman thought about accepting? Magne regained the hammer but got a reality check.

Wotan’s/Odin’s reality check: Wotan took Magne out of the escalating situation before more people could get hurt. He forced Magne to come back to himself and realize why he was behaving like he did. It is the point that finally brought Magne to himself, to understand while the death of Isolde, his fear to have disappointed her, it was what fed the pseudo reality into what it was festering into. That he needed to come back to the “real” world. It is why he, even if we expected the fight to happen, he finally let it go. He forgave himself, the Jutuls (to an extent), and let it, and symbolic the hammer with its power, go. Because, and that is why we see the fight in the pseudo-reality in the last episode, he has to move forward at some point, and not loose himself and the others forever.

Thor’s death: Thor needed to die for Magne to life. Magne finally found his way out, and realized that he had escaped into a wrong reality. Thor had to die, so Magne could become himself. He was a young man about to graduate from school, and had scared the girl he lived away with how he behaved. We are how Ragnarok plays out, how Thor does, but Magne lives and ends it with throwing the comics away. He no longer needs to flee reality and was ready to rebuild his relationship and strengthen those he made on his way to recovery.

Thor dies so Magne could life.

[karin-in-action]

What are we thinking about season three of Ragnarok?

I just couldn't hold myself back and watched it in one go. I enjoyed watching it and in the end I cried a little. I think the season was really good and I also liked the end, but I just didn't see it coming the way it came. I think it's really interesting that they took this route.

And one last thing: Isolde, you'll always be in my heart.

If anyone wants to talk about it or has a need to talk about it, I'm always here.

[secondjulia]

Agents of Ragnarok Chapter 12

Rated: T; Warnings: Violence Ao3 link

“Laurits? Laurits!” Magne shouted into the phone before he realized he’d crushed the thing in his hand. He let the shards of glass and plastic fall to the ground. 

Something was very, very wrong.

“I made a mistake,” Laurits had said. “I thought it was better to hide. To creep around in secret. But the only way anyone got anything done in this world was by making it big. To spill it all in public and raise hell.”

“Laurits…”

“Just tell people about what they’re doing.”

“Brother, wait! What are you planning?”

“Bye, Magne.”

Magne’s stomach turned. He had the uncomfortable feeling that he was missing something big. Laurits wasn’t going to let this thing with the serpent and the Jutuls drop, and he wasn’t going to sit by while other people did the work. And why hadn’t he just come home — instead of calling — to ask Magne to use Isolde’s channel to tell the world about Jörmungandr?

“…the only way anyone got anything done in this world was by making it big. To spill it all in public and raise hell.”

Magne had to admit it wasn’t a terrible idea to use the relatively more peaceful avenue of YouTube to combat the Jutuls. The public had actually raised hell before — though, only when they found out that they were being poisoned. Nobody really cared about the fish. Still, it could be worth a try.

But what was Laurits’s idea of raising hell?

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