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"You can only be jealous of someone who has something you think you ought to have yourself." Margaret Atwood, The Handmaid’s Tale
#art donaldson becoming the most interesting character to me#i'm just obsessed with his jealousy and desires#he's so opaque bc he rarely speaks up but he's an open book when you know how to read him#that much jealousy should have consumed him entirely from the inside we're lucky he's still standing#“was anyone going to tell me about this parallel or was i supposed to notice it by myself?”#i say as never check the tag bc i'm easily annoyed#this seems like an obvious parallel considering the next scene that happens with tashi but i never realized it before now oops#nasty snake donaldson they will never take you away from me!!#art donaldson#tashi duncan#patrick zweig#challengers
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The thing with characters and whether or not they'd be prone to jealousy is that like... What does it mean to be "prone to jealousy?" Like does being prone mean you get unreasonably jealous? That anything will set you off?
Not to mention with jealousy is that it's not just a one person thing. Jealousy is a reaction. The other half of the relationship has to be doing something that will make the other person feel jealous. And these acts of jealousy can have different... origins? Some people are just naturally friendly. Others are overly friendly and don't know their boundaries. And lastly some people purposefully act in a way that will make their partner feel jealous (probably for reassurance).
There are a lot of factors at play with jealousy and being prone to it, so it's a bit more of a complicated thing to figure out...
#rambles#anon if you are reading this i am not dissing your question#i have to talk things out in order to make sense of what's going on in my brain orz#the fun but also difficult thing about analysis questions is that i tend to overthink things#when i first read your ask my gut response was 'i... don't... think... so...? maybe...???'#and that gets me thinking too#if you see someone is flirting with your partner and you stand up and go to stand at their side like 'hey they're mine'...#is that considered jealousy?#personally i don't think so#i gotta think about it haha
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i read the wigmaker job recently and there’s an idea that really stuck with me, which may well have been discussed before, but it’s really been itching at me. it came from this exchange near the end –
“i don't want to quit.” / illario sat back. the distance between them suddenly felt much wider than a table. / “even if it kills you,” illario whispered. / “death is my calling,” lucanis stated, matter-of-fact. “just as yours is to become first talon.”
(the bits before and after this give important context, too, but these specific lines are what gnaw at me)
i. really wonder if this conversation – and the long-standing beliefs held by both of them that it’s indicative of – contributed to giving lucanis to zara.
like, illario coming to terms with the fact that lucanis really just will. not. stop. for ANYTHING. his cousin WILL get himself killed doing this and lucanis won’t have any regrets. he’ll leave illario to go this alone. (no one to follow after anymore.) combined with the envy of knowing that lucanis is and always will be caterina’s favorite, and she will likely pick lucanis to be first talon even tho lucanis does not want this At All…
i wonder if he thought that, well, if lucanis is going to die anyway… maybe it’s better to have it happen sooner, rather than later. why put off the inevitable? especially if this is the one thing that could shift caterina’s gaze to illario and give him what he’s wanted – what he’s earned.
lucanis wouldn’t be happy as first talon anyway (honestly, illario seems to see that what lucanis is NOW isn’t so much ‘happy’ as it is ‘obedient and content to accept the scraps that gives him’), and he’s GOING to get himself killed doing this, anyway… and sure, they COULD wait it out. wait for lucanis to do something foolish enough that he can't just walk away from it. maybe he’ll even last long enough to be made first talon (if caterina can ever bear to loosen her grip from the title) and be miserable for a while. years even, maybe. before he, again, does something he can’t walk away from.
OR. or. or illario could cut through all the pointless waiting and get right to the point. go straight to where this was always going to end up.
(and maybe part of it is an extension of anticipated grief, too – the loss will be agony. if illario controls when and how it happens, he can control his grief. …except he hasn’t accepted the inevitability of lucanis’ death quite as well as he’d thought and when he gets sloshed at the wake, real grief seeps through the cracks)
i dunno. something about both of them viewing lucanis’ death as a foregone conclusion and how illario Might have had that shape his decisions.
YEAH . YEAHHHHH. i do also think the “to reason” exchange is what solidifies it in illario’s mind. lucanis is like 'this has been a productive if tense talk with my cousin. surely he sees sense now.' and illario is like ‘what the fuck. i think he wants to die’ <- okay im exaggerating a bit but i do absolutely see the end of wigmaker’s job as the start of lucanis-illario’s downward spiral. there’s a reason that it’s something lucanis is stuck on during inner demons, and the exchange that you have very nicely broken down is what he hears echoes of, this is where he knows it started to go wrong
probably the worst part is lucanis WOULD have worked himself to death and it takes the series of events in veilguard for lucanis to see other options for his life, and still he ends up being shoehorned into first talon by the end of the quest. i thought his quest would parallel iron bull’s, in that rook shows them that living outside and away from crow influence is possible, and that he is much more than the weapon they turned him into, but it ofc doesn’t go through like that. it’s genuinely a bit heartbreaking that lucanis finally has support and like. FRIENDS. but with the way the game ends he’s pulled back into the crows and to a life that will be about protecting a cousin that the organisation he runs hates, and for as long as caterina lives, unable to say no to her. and meanwhile after lucanis has made connections outside of the crows, illario has absolutely nothing left (prison of his own making i get it but i still want to get his ass out of there. 😭) so the codependency that they used to share is gone as well. maybe lucanis has a foot out the door but i genuinely have no idea how illario goes on after this
#it's. so terrible that these are grown fucking men in their 30s and lucanis still feels like he can't refuse anything she tells her#and then ofc illario doesnt consider they CAN even change her mind so he jumps to fratricide .#i also of course think everything he does in the game is wildly stupid and out of character for him. but this is another fight#well. kind of. the direction they took with illario just confuses me to no end#the jealousy stuff is all there ofc i do not think that part is unrealistic. but the execution .......#AND SO SORRY I TOOK THIS LONG TO RESPOND!!!! i NEED to get unemployed i gotta treat thinking of illario as a day job#long post#just. yeah. sorry for adding my own two cents i just .....#i think the dellamortes seriously caring for each other and a rare example of a blood related family as a crow house#could have had a lot more done with it.#someday i will post my stupid little powerpoint#answered#cannibalisticskittles
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yk giving percy a roman sister would've actually been a GREAT addition, if only it didn't go against poseidon's loyalty towards sally which is super meaningful in the pjo books...
#the things we could've got w a neptune sister 😮💨#the nuance of her character. her dynamics w percy#we could've seen how different she gets treated in CJ as a neptune kid compared to percy in chb#she could've been the hot head between the two of them yk her slight feelings of jealousy when percy gets accepted so quickly in CJ#since neptune is considered bad luck in CJ so she doesn't get much respect so she had to work her way through the legions#reyna and jason supporting and encouraging her>>>#pjo#pjo fandom#percy jackson#pjo series#jason grace#pjo hoo#pjo hoo toa
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I refuse to go into more detail, but, I will no longer hold my tongue. my biggest gripe with this fandom is the way a majority of it erases Lo'ak's actual trauma and struggles (with his identity, his father/family, his clan, etc), and essentially gives him Spider's traumas/struggles in some idealized form (whether for over the top and oversimplified "hurt/comfort" scenarios, or max woobification), while absolutely dragging and/or ignoring Spider's entire character and the realistic depictions of those traumas and what that does to a kid.
like I can't exactly put words to it or go into a deep analytical post, but I've been thinking about it, and some other stuff I've seen online have been making me think about it.
stop doing a disservice to both of my boys. they both have such interesting and complex stories and you're ruining it!!!
#also. please stop acting like they hate each other deep down#idk why I keep seeing this. they are best friends and. more importantly. they're brothers.#they're dumb teenage boys and they get into squabbles and hold grudges and say the wrong thing sometimes. but they're brothers.#even if. *if*. they had moments of true anger or hatred or jealousy. they would be short-lived and come from a place of insecurity. and-#lead to insurmountable guilt immediately after.#and that bond. the understanding between them. even considering how distinctly different the circumstances of their daddy issues/identity-#issues are. is what makes them so interesting.#that bond then needs to be considered in conversations of the aftermath of Spider saving Q. cause Lo'ak will understand him best out of-#anyone in the Sully family. not to say that there will not be anger or fighting. but he will not immediately go to kill his *brother*#anywho. idk why I expect fandom spaces to be full of media literacy and understanding of complex characters. but I thought I'd throw this-#out there. feel free to build on this.#spider socorro#spider avatar#avatar spider#miles spider socorro#miles socorro#loak sully#avatar loak#atwow loak#lo'ak sully#lo'ak te suli tsyeyk'itan#lo'ak avatar#avatar 2#avatar the way of water
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the pastel wearing, black American child vampiress arrives in Paris. walk optimistic. mind guarded. she's prideful. and strong. and wicked. fierce, she says. she's successful. more successful than any other actor or actress has been during the Théâtre des Vampires' run. five hundred shows. she hates it. she underperforms while on stage. she expresses her distaste where others self flagellate and cower. they hate her. they stuff her inside the rat box. just her. all she ever wanted from them was comradery. a place to belong. and they stuffed her into the fucking rat box.
#they Need to die. I'm so fucking serious#I NEED them dead#the deep rooted misogynoir and jealousy that goes into how harshly they treat her is SO. just. vile.#and also with her being considered disabled by vampiric standards#it's just all so much#interview with the vampire#claudia#cloey talks iwtv#mine#iwtv talk
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shoutout to butch deloria, you would have loved the kings. and by love the kings I mean start an entirely one-sided gang rivalry with them.
#i think butch would look up to the king a lot but it would manifest as jealousy so he’d consider him a rival#meanwhile the king is like who is this kid lol#fallout#fallout 3#fallout new vegas#butch deloria
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*Gricko (and Frost? Maybe?? Don’t remember) getting the love curse throughout the carnival* haha, what a funny situation! :)
*Kremy getting the love curse during episode 15* wow, that’s oddly convenient
*Gideon getting the love curse during episode 26* …there’s no fucking way this is a coincidence anymore
#now if it were ANYONE ELSE for Gideon#I MIGHT have believed it was a coincidence#but considering that it was towards Kremy#after Kremy has been showing a tad bit of jealousy#there’s no fucking way this was a coincidence#especially not since Gideon’s curse lasted a lot longer than everyone else’s#I think Nikki’s just giving us shipping fuel#but who am I to complain when I am eating this shit up?#legends of avantris#once upon a witchlight#coalecroux#gideon x kremy
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Sirius : prongs!
James*looking up from whatever he was doing, giving Sirius his complete attention * : yes?
Sirius : do you think I might be heterophobic?
James : pads, don't you mean homophobic?
Sirius : no, I don't have problems with homosexuals, it's js that, I saw moony snogging a girl, and I felt really uncomfortable and wanted to slap the girl
James : *long suffering sigh* pads, have you perhaps considered the emotion, "jealousy"?
#hp#hp marauders#harry potter#sirius black#james potter#remus lupin#wolfstar#platonic prongsfoot#prongsfoot#Sirius had in fact not considered the emotion jealousy#Sirius is jealous#james has suffered enough watching the two make eyes at each other#remus doesn't believe Sirius could ever love him#and tries everything to let his crush go#it doesn't work#i added the part where James gives Sirius his complete attention bc they're the bestest of besties#and james could be dueling death eaters but would still listen to Sirius talk#they're platonic soulmates your honor
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Bucktommy this, bommy that, have you considered Tommy is interested in Eddie and doesn't realize he's already dating a woman?
Consider:
Tommy was supposed to be Lucy
Tommy only wanted to hang out with Eddie and didn't quite consider Buck on the same level as Eddie
It would be really funny if Eddie had three people who want him but aren't getting all of him.
#911 abc#eddie diaz my pookie bear#911 fox#buddie#eddie diaz#evan buck buckely#evan buckley#911 spoilers#tommy kinard#also people were saying Buck and Eddie seemed akward in that sneak peek but have they considered it was because of Tommy#like Buck's entire plot this episode is on his jealousy with Eddie and Tommy so obviously some feelings abd actions will be changed
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I need Eddie's jealous moments!!!!!
yk... for research
Eddie once came home from a three-week stint playing shows in middle-of-nowhere Ohio to find a man sitting on his couch. Steve was newly diagnosed and newly moved in, and Eddie was prepared for anything.
Except for a man sitting on his couch. A very distinctly Tommy H-shaped man, sitting way too comfortably and way too close to his boyfriend. On his couch.
Eddie was expecting throw pillows not – “Hagan.”
“Munson.”
Eddie wasn’t due back until tomorrow and Steve is surprised to see him, and he’s happy. He lights up like Christmas, but this is not the homecoming that Eddie was expecting. He still gets a hug, but it doesn’t linger and it doesn’t lead to where he wants them to go (the bedroom). Steve awkwardly pats him on the shoulder when he pulls away like they’re bros.
It’s kind of obvious that Steve had some of his jock friends from high school over to watch the game because the people on tv are talking about sports and there’s a letterman jacket too big for Steve or Tommy forgotten on the kitchen floor. The fact that Tommy is the only one that remains irks Eddie though.
It sets his teeth on edge, especially when Steve settles back on the couch and Tommy refills the space next to him like they were still friends. Tommy throws his arm over Steve’s shoulder, absently touching his hair the way that he always did in school. Steve might not notice it, but Eddie does.
It ain’t subtle. Not to Eddie, who knows what it looks like to be in love with Steve Harrington.
He’s not dumb. Eddie might be out of town just as much as he’s in it nowadays, but he knows what the rumors are about why Steve is living here. He also knows that if he was the one harboring a crush on a boy since grade school and there was even the slightest change that he might be gay than Eddie would be here too. Testing the waters.
Too bad for Tommy though because this is Eddie’s pool.
Despite the loud and obnoxious presence pressed up against Steve’s side and Steve awkwardly reintroducing them to each other, Eddie still asks, “You have people over?”
“Wayne said it was okay.”
“Course it is,” Eddie grinned. “You live here, sweetheart.”
Steve tells Eddie how Tommy was home from college for the long weekend and about the game of telephone that led to him hosting his friends. He even tells Eddie how he recorded the game on tape to watch with Wayne later. Eddie listens and he maybe agreed to watch the rerun with them, but he’s waiting. He’s watching Tommy squeeze the back of Steve’s neck and make some joke that’s not funny, and he’s waiting.
And it happens.
Steve asks Eddie how his shows went, and Eddie grins. He’s not an insecure man. Not about Steve and not about their relationship. Tommy can make all the moves he wants, Eddie knows where Steve’s sleeping tonight. So, he grins.
He startles them both with a running jump onto the coffee table and he takes up all the attention in the room, Tommy left an afterthought. Eddie regales his time in the far off land of Ohio. He paints a perilous picture of nights driving through cornfields and cows like an adventure. He recounts their shows like he’s slaying a dragon, and he draws Steve in like he knew he would.
He physically draws Steve closer, crouching down in front of him and putting his hands on his shoulders. One hand slides up to caress his cheek, and Steve leans into the touch. Eddie pulls him forward until he’s barely on the couch at all and Tommy is left leaning against nothing, and then Eddie pulls him to his feet.
High school Steve probably would’ve sneered at the Eddie of it all, but this Steve – his Steve – laughs and lets Eddie pull him where the story needs to go. He drags Steve through the living room as he weaves a tale in movement about Corroded Coffin’s harrowing battle against the one lone preacher protesting devil music.
Their feet get tangled together when Eddie zigs and Steve zags, and they end up toppled into Wayne’s favorite chair. Steve laughs in that way that squishes his whole face and he tells him without thought, “Missed you.”
Eddie knows that those are words that Tommy wants to hear. He knows the taste of a friendship lost and he knows that Tommy wants this, but this isn’t high school anymore. Tommy can’t just take what he wants. It’s a deep and settling smugness playing on Eddie’s lips because this his and he says, “I know.”
Tommy leaves with very little fanfare. Forest Hills may not be a castle, but it’s Eddie’s domain and Steve is a very captive audience. Tommy, at least, knows when to admit defeat.
He’s standing on the gravel outside of the trailer when he says, “I’ll drive you to that appointment Monday. What time was it?”
Before Steve could say anything, Eddie’s throwing his arm over Steve’s shoulder. He gives Tommy a grin that’s all sharp corners as he threads his fingers into Steve’s hair and tugs on it, “Don’t worry about it, Tommy-boy. I’ll handle it.”
Eddie only kinda feels like an asshole when he smudges Tommy’s name off the calendar stuck to the fridge later that night, but then he gets into his bed for the first time in three weeks. Steve curls up closer and Eddie finds it really hard to care about anything else.
#not sure if this reads as jealous but I think Eddie is less petty in his jealousy. he doesn’t need to worry that Steve is going somewhere#he just needs Steve’s eyes on him. if that makes sense#this is almost long enough to be considered a full fic#eddie munson tiktok saga#steve harrington#eddie munson
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oh i just felt my stomach drop. no...
#ghhhhhh okok working theory now:#he actually can't get out of this situation. it's not where he intended to be not what he wanted to do#but he has to keep going and pretend it's all fine because that's his only option.#he's got to keep playing the part. also explains his jealousy of joker#probably not only because he's improved so quickly but because joker managed to dig himself out of his situation#whereas it looks like akechi dug himself further in and stopping is not only impossible from his pov but also means giving up#joker's also someone he started to enjoy spending time with. and i still do think that was genuine.#do you think the possibility of a genuine friendship with him was too painful to consider now that he's so far down this path?#do you think that's part of the reason joker had to die?#akechi voice: 'i just need to crush my feelings and then everything will be fine'#i am. so close to understanding what's going on here. i can't wait for it to all click into place.#storyrambles#story plays persona 5#mementos mission#goro akechi#random thoughts
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#self ship#self ship community#self shipping#selfship#f/o community#selfshipping#f/o#self insert#fictional other#romantic f/o#selfshipper#selfship poll#for something like genshin/hsr/zzz i definitely consider the mcs their own characters#but for say otome games i try my best to project onto them but sometimes get annoyed when they don’t react to things like i would lmao#enstars is really tricky bc like…i really want to project onto the mc to the point that is literally is me#but again it’s really annoying that she technically has a canon appearance name and personality#i know some people love her but i can’t bring myself to ugh#the jealousy kinda takes over oops
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Got a Breakdown centric/kobd fanfic idea and wanted to write down the summary for later use
After the first acounter with Silas Breakdown actually gets to bond with Bulkhead for a moment and Bulkhead seeing his old partner is still there decides to try rekindle their bond offering sparing sesions for starters. Breakdown obliviously refuses (he's no traitor) but getting back on Nemesis he starts to question himself. He already is a nuisence to the decepticons, he has nothing to offer other than his strength and project Breakdown showed he's not even good at that. Getting to train more wouldn't be that bad.. after all decepticons never give him any classified informations for autobots to steal and if he was killed it wouldn't be a big lose. Breakdown starts meeting up with Bulkhead and their old friendship starts to blossom once again. He's not doing anything wrong, he's just sparing. It's not like any of his superiors care about what he does, now that he lose to a human.
Accept there IS one bot that cares and he is not pleased.
Basically Breakdown getting friends and Knockout losing his shit.
Relationships: Breakdown & Bulkhead, Breakdown/Knockout, past Breakdown/Bulkhead, mentioned Bulkhead/Wheeljack,
Warnings: mentions of torture, acts of violence, toxic relationship dynamics, yandere(?) Behaviour
To clarifie, altrought Knockout might be a little bit antagonized here, he is not a villain. He just doesn't know how to handle some emotions that he's not used to. Which is pretty fair considering he almost lost his husband. Breakdown still loves him for it. Just wants to be more appreciated.
#transformers#transformers breakdown#kobd#transformers knockout#transformers bulkhead#transformers wheeljack#knockout x breakdown#Knockout did not consider not being the centre of attention as a posibility#he's going nuts#which is kinda understandable since his husband is bonding with an Ex rather than stay in the medbay and be safe#meanwhile Breakdown is having a tea party with Miko#Wheeljack is not thrilled either but he can do much about it being in space#he still calls trought skype to talk shit and drink tea#yandere Knockout#but it's reasonable#jealousy#Breakdown and Bulkhead are the exes that work better as friends#Miko is living her dream life#what better than one cool big car driving you to school? Two big cool cars driving you to school!#Megatron does not give a shit#I want to personally torture Silas but well Knockout will do for now#Arachnid getting squashed tho#you ain't getting to represent my favorite specie just to mess up so badly#transformers prime#transformers fanfiction
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This photo will always be hysterical to me
#Harry's giving “look at her the wrong way and you'll regret it”#this boy#it's just gil#you don't need to be giving him that murderous glare Harry#put the jealousy away#I think Gil knows the deal considering that he has to be around these two's constant PDA#huma#harry hook#uma#gil#sea three
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You know how Eddie had that switch towards Tommy from 7x04 to 7x06 and he was lowkey judging Tommy while he and Buck were talking?
What if it was because after Buck came out to him, he realized that that comment Tommy made to him at the restaurant could've outed Buck to him if he was paying more attention to it and it pissed him off to no end?
But considering how much Buck likes Tommy, he decided to make an active effort to stay cordial to keep Buck happy while simultaneously choosing to judge the fuck outta Tommy whenever his back was turned ?
#911#911 show#911 abc#911 on abc#911 theories#911 thoughts#911 season 7#911 s7#911 spoilers#911 s7 spoilers#eddie diaz#evan buckley#tommy kinard#ryan guzman#oliver stark#911 7x04#911 7x06#like it literally just dawned on me#I always thought it was funny how Eddie just switched from considering Tommy a bestie#and then he just started giving the man side-eyes#and I just thought it was from oblivious jealousy#but it makes so much sense now#why he would switch up like that#imagine your best friend comes out to you#and then you go home and think back to when you saw him on his date#and you remember that one comment he made that had your friend turn to him upset#and you realize he damn near outed your best friend#I'd be pissed too!#but that's just my theory#makes sense to me tho
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