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#it's too early for me to get into whatever the hell#is going on with HYBE and jkk right now#but fck them for real#always knew they were ignoring the hate#but it's wild to see them know how OT7 fans#have started to resent JM#just crazy watching that happen especially in CH2#and then to see it documented like that by the company#idk I need to take a proper look at everything later#wish there was a better source for all of this 🫠#can't trust HYBE can't trust MHJ can't trust pann or the qoo
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#ok my bet is on some sort of company shenanigans - why else this jkk leak guy going nuts#exactly as all the 🛴 stuff us going down? like the timing is *extremely* suspect#either that or my evil id says what if 🛴 leaked something to pry jk away from jm (bc you see that billboard article -#hell i even entertain the idea 🛴 gave bb inside info or pointed them at kpop to appease his cronies - or maybe a 🛴-hater did#to tank his hybe deal? either way his artists might have gotten word through the grapevine whst he did and rhat's why#they're possibly dropping him? not me still stuck on that tidbit jk passed over at suchwita#i wonder if the hybe deal had any caveats about 🛴 company worth or his artist deals or even a 'morals' clause#like many performers (esp. kpop) have and if something gets out the deal falls through?#and maybe this jkk leak is a possible threat against that? idk idk idk#i just get the feeling two sides are posturing at each other and threat signaling only we don't know who the sides even are!#but it almost always seems to come down to money when this wrird shit happens#that's why i keep thinking it's something to do with hybe wanting to be rid of 🛴 now that jk has his bb hot 100#imagine if jk actually was some kind if mole to observe all 🛴's moves and contacts to then ice him out lolll#jk is really good at observation and imitation right? and being the wide-eyed innocent baby we know he really isn't#but all the hyung-types fall for it anyway so#it's just *weird* all this kicking up at the same time - i just wish it won't affect face and jm and bh's reputation
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I’ve been spending some time during the past couple of days reading jikookers’ opinions about the sudden appearance of taehyung in the AYS on tumblr blogs (No TW & IG since I care about my mental health), and I can confidently say that to some considerable extent, they’re angry at hybe for hiding taehyung and the marketing of the show and their subverted expectations.
I love them all, All 7 equally (Ok maybe Hobi more than others…I’m not gonna lie😅). I’m not happy seeing any of this happening and I’m not enjoying and feeling smug because of any of this because the toxicity’s level 📈 and I don’t feel safe anywhere around the fandom at moments like this (It literally feels like a apocalypse out there I guess, based on my previous experiences) especially in the midst of Yoongi’s DIU’s controversy which is still going on. (God why is it getting worse every day?🤦🏻)
All I can think about, is how whiny and spoiled jikookers are and how strong and perseverant we, as taekookers, have been over the years. We’ve literally been to hell and back and we’re awaiting an unknown future.
Thank you in advance for listening to my intimate thoughts, Rain.
Hi anon!
It is such a weird thing to be mad about. Only two weeks ago, I was still getting secret jkk asks telling me this travel show was planned by Jk and Jm, and that it wasn't fanservice or company content, but it was something they wanted to do...
And now they are mad because Jk and Jm's plans involved Tae? I mean, I always thought this was content they made for army, I still think that now Tae is also in it. Doesn't mean all three didn't love this opportunity. But it's crazy to get mad because the content you are getting isn't the content you though you were getting when the content you thought you were getting was a honeymoon kinda trip of a non-existing couple (wow..that's a lot of words).
I am staying far away from twitter, and I haven't visited Jkk side for months now (sadly they still come here... but I'm blocking so many of them I can't even read certain replies in other's blogs 😂). I have seen the mayhem from a distance though.. it is a messed up time right now. I'm just hoping members are alright and don't actually witness much of what army is saying.
Hobi is almost back anon!!!! Almost!!
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All members are using IG to promote their solo projects, album, brand ambassador…etc. I admire JK who prefers genuine interaction with fans, he did not forget how BTS stood out from other idols and established connection with fans. I love him for that. But still, he has ‘jobs’, deleting his IG account and saying he is not going to use it anyways seem to suggest that no solo projects will be released in the near future… He has strong brand power and influence, if he has no ‘brand ambassador’ contract yet, it means he turned down all the offers. What do you think he is planning? Is he happy?
Is that shade I detect?
What do you mean he prefers genuine interaction with fans? And I'm sorry, who don't?? Gworl😩
I think you trynnna gaslight yourself romanticing this as some sort of heroic deed born out of the goodness of his heart 💀
Realistically speaking, IG is just an alternative platform for reaching a much more narrow, targeted fanbase. It's a much better platform for engaging with fans compared to weverse which is still in its early development stages and only recently rolled out lives.
Jungkook himself said he wished it had options to add fans during lives and chat with them- a feature that IG already has.
While it's easier to see his actual brand power on IG, the same cannot be said for weverse cos you know he his posting to not just his fans but other members' fans as well. It's OT7 up in weverse. Not JKK.
And let's not forget both he and Tae were the first members who hoped on to IG and enthusiastically posted on there acting all giddy as if they just got out of hybe jail and were finally free.
If you want a member who dragged his feet out there it was this one right here. He's your hero.
He is the king OT7 kumbaya gang leader. He said it himself he didn't even know what he was to post on there and for the longest time he was posting nufin.
So just because Jungkook deletes IG on a whim does not make him no damn OT7 simp. Stop. I love you but I will fight you to the death on this one- and maybe chase you with a pitch fork in the afterlife too🥴
Because, didn't I make posts about how he seemed eager to embark on his solo path way before they announced their solo careers? He literally let it slip in an interview how he couldn't wait to try a solo stage and then backtracked talking about how he didn't mean to say he wanted to go solo.
Was he a genuine fan interaction boss then when he was posting Tae and all those stories and IG live??
Bombastic side eye.
you have to recommend me a good Jimin Y/N fanfic with a lot of smut for getting me worked up over this. Actually make that two. You nice, keep going 🤭💜
With the second part of your ask, I really don't know. All I've heard him say is he has a lot of free time and that he wishes it could stay that way for a while.
I think he and V already have their albums done. They might have been the first few members to work on theirs. I mean some of their songs were incorporated into OT7 songs if I remember right. Tae had a whole ass English song ready to go.
Jk is an artist. His band mates are busy with solo projects they won't be available for no OT7 music projects until later in the future when they conclude their military service.
And I don't think he is quitting music or retiring from music so soon so.....
If he has all that free time and doesn't want to do solo projects then he better get his ass shipped off to military and get it over with. Gotta yank the bandaid off real fast and it won't hurt.
I don't know why people are buying this whole "I deleted it cos I don't use it story." You genuinely believe that's why he deleted IG?💀
B--bcos he doesn't use it????? Okay now
I know we joke about how bts deletes Twitter if they haven't used it in a long while but he took that quite literally didn't he?
If you're not using it, delete the app from your phone and forget about it. You don't delete your account. Jimin wasn't using the app either- I didn't see him delete his account🥴
Personally, I was worried having separate accounts would lead to unnecessary rivalry and competition with fans pitting them against eachother and making fun of who has the least followers.
Then there's this whole thing with the algorithms and analytics that would have you obsessing over likes comments views and impressions. It can mess with your head.
But then I assumed, that was something they all might have thought through before setting up those accounts.
They knew the risks and they took it. Says a lot about all of them. This is a journey they had collectively agreed to embark on. So if Jungkook is taking himself out, let's not take this lightly. Let's assume there's a sound tangible reason behind it other than redundancy and inactivity.
Then someone said he deleted it because he was angry with fans- listen yea, if Jungkook is mad at fans YOU'LL KNOW. Lmho.
he wouldn't be out here on weverse showing yall his snores while lowkey calling yall out for being crazay.
He and his man finna pack off these streets and disappear on yall for months when yall push a button with your ghettory.
That's not his MO. It just isn't but to each their own.
It's crazy town. There's room for all of us.
And if he's clinging on to yall it's usually a sign he's isolating in his real life. (Not saying he is clinging to the fans, there isn't much interaction at odd hours to back this up- yet.)
But I do wonder where all his alleged girlfriends at💀
Yall come get your man.
I know his boyfriend is busy preparing for an album release and his crime partner- na see where Tae at too cos I see him on IG but dude staying silent on JK's public fuckups Activities. Come get him Tae
Is Jungkook happy?
I don't know hun.
It could be he turned down all offers or now is not the right time to announce those deals. Probably because they haven't been finalized or he hasn't found a brand he wants to work with.
As part if BTS, he has worked with brands in the past and so I'm sure he has a fair idea of which brands suit him best.
He did dreamers for Fifa inspite of protests about Qatar. Sets the tone doesn't it?
I won't lie though, that's a lot of money he just pissed away deleting that account. And guess who gets a cut of that money by deciding which brands he works with? 😶😶😶😶
HYBE. HE JUST SCREWED OVER HYBE💀
I really hope he knows what he is doing.
But your ask makes me curious about something- I'm not sure I want to address that here. Especially the part you said he has no contract yet- I doubt it but if it's true then I would wonder if he's perceived "social risk" is a factor. That would break my heart you know?
I know some brands tend to Stay away from certain Celebrities for fear they might be too controversial due to their lifestyle or even sexuality. I didn't say this but because I think of Jikook as queer men I tend to stress myself over these things a lot.
For Jungkook I imagine people writing to companies threatening to boycott their products if they take him on. I overthink- I do that. Leave me alone.
It's why I was so excited for Jimin and Dior.
I'm anxiously waiting for Jungkook to announce his ambassadorship so I can finally breathe- like imagine these men are not actually gay and for years I stress myself out worrying their sexuality impacts their lives
That's just wild🥴
I also wonder if they see a major difference between using joint accounts and Solo accounts. They have the freedom to post whatever they want subject to company rules and third person contract terms but I wonder if they are seeing the same commercial success as before.
Commercializing their brand can be a bit overwhelming for them I think. But Jimin is the cautious type and I know he ponders over decisions and choices a lot before he makes them.
It's Jungkook I worry about sometimes. I just hope he's not overwhelmed by the whole thing.
I don't know what Jungkook is planning and I hope to god he is happy and healthy cos I just- I can't. If he's not I can't 😭
This is not my month. I am in a fragile state of mind because this is Jikooks most vulnerable month to me. Jimin's album is coming, Jungkook is jungkooking- lord keep the ship afloat. We ain't want no trouble.
I try to think happy thoughts
Jimin's album is a success
Jungkook is fine- even if he's not sire hang on tight I can only worry about one ship captain at a time😩
I suspend all concerns about Jungkook to after Jimin's successful album launch😌
Now who's coming with me to convince Jungkook we need his account to promote Jimin's album?😩
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I'm so confused right now... why jkks are collectively ignoring the fact that v and jk have gone out multiple times, doing stuff that jkk used to do? if this were jkk we will all be happy, but now suddenly I've been tolf there are no proofs, we don't know them, etc. jk is getting drunk on live and goes out with v, that's all, isn't this strange? he didn't go visit jin, he's never at hybe to film tiktok with hobi...but he does go aout with v and wooga, since when???
As far as I know no one is ignoring anything because there is nothing to be ignored. Taekook had two sightings together recently, once back in November 13th, 2022 in a bowling club with Choi Wooshik and his brother, and the second time was last week when they were watching a musical show with Park Seojoon and Park Hyungshik. (The skiing resort has no legit proof)
JK hanging out with a group including Tae, two times in span of four months, while we know he goes out regularly, is so random (?) if you ask me. In one of his recent Wlives JK mentioned being out with some acquaintances, and we have receipts of him doing restaurant tour all over Seoul since last summer, each time with different people. He even traveled to Jeju with some old friends back in November, and It seems he isn't picky when it comes to go out with people, and he does it whenever he feels like it with any friend who is available, which is sometimes Tae and his Wooga friends, and I'm happy for them forming a bond over it. But, excuse me? "doing stuff Jikook used to do"? Like what? Celebrating birthdays together? Or a romantic trip to Tokyo? Or going shopping in Seoul? Sorry, but the bars are so high, and no duo can even come close.
Okay. So, why recently he doesn't go out with other members of BTS including Jimin; Simple, they are all busy with their schedules except for Taehyung. JK doesn't have schedules at the time, so he doesn't go to Hybe, and he is kinda unavailable for other members, too. This is how things have been planned for them.
BTS has 7 members and JK wasn't the only absent member visiting Jin. What if this is also planned by Hybe and all the members will go visit him in a designated time?
And about drunk Wlives, new armys might find it bizzare and unexpected, but JK doing drunk lives is nothing new to older armys. I hope this has helped you with your confusion.
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tbh i’m not sure that the reason why jimin stayed is yoongi’s concert. there was an info on twitter that jimin is going to attend and some people were already leaking his flight info, but then he cancelled it.
i mean, jimin obv knew when is yoongis concert and when is the fashion show, right? there is no way dior invited him and didn’t say the date, or bts didn’t know when yoongi is coming back.
and there were a lot of changes in jk’s schedule hence why investors are always changing the dates and media releasing new dates every few days, and there were a lot of rumors from scoop accounts on twitter that hybe is changing jk’s schedule and his album release date was rescheduled from july to august/september.
maybe at first jimin thought that jungkook is gonna be in states anyway, so he can go to paris too, than staying alone at home or maybe at first they thought that they are gonna spend some time together and then jungkook is going to the states, and jimin is flying to france.
i think there is a possibility that because of their schedule conflicts, jimin decided that he will better be in seoul when his boyfriend is finally coming home, than traveling for 12 hours to another country just for a few hours fashion show, that will keep him apart from the one, who soon he is not gonna see for like a 1.5 years.
they were away from home and each other because of their hectic solo schedules and couldn’t quite spend a lot of time together, but now jkk are finally gonna be in the same city together, spend time with each other, and maybe even publicly go out together (FINGERS CROSSED) after laying low since the chapter 2 started..
jimin deciding to fly to paris knowing when his bandmates and one of closest friends concert is (because yoongi invited him to his concert and not once, but twice or even thrice, so i’m sure they discussed the possibility of it and the exact dates or he even texted abt that in their gc) then cancelling dior the last minute.. sounds.. weird?
so my “theory” is (if you can call it that haha) jimin cancelled dior because of jungkook, to cuddle him to sleep, maybe go to yoongis concert together and show some insecure btches that they are still strong (AGAIN FINGERS CROSSED I WANT TO SEE THEM SO MUCH), because they missed each other <3
Hi anons,
Well, love story #1 is very beautiful. I'm a hopeless romantic and that is something that tickles my heart. Imagining Jimin and Jk getting rid of all their activities so they can spend time together bathing each other in kisses and cuddles.
Like this:
It's lovely.
And story #2, nah. Jimin has been cornered by Yoongi in front of the cameras twice (or more?) times because Yoongi wants him to perform.
Jimin didn't even want to. THAT is not real love lol
Buuut in my opinion, you both are wrong. Jimin loves Jk, no doubt. But he wouldn't cancel his professional duties for love.
🎵I would do anything for love but I wont do that!🎵
Come on, you all. This is the Jimin that went to live with his producer and dissapeared so he could work on FACE without distractions. Jungkook is the biggest distraction lol
He limited Jimin hours for everyone AND Jungkook because his professionalism and his art are more important.
So no, if Jimin doesn't attend Dior, it's not because of love, and if he attends Yoongi's concert, it's not because of love lol
Thanks for sharing!
Especially you, anon 1! I miss them too.
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I'd simply say it's the difference in timeline cause i have seen ALOT of tweets during seven as well as Golden as well as fri(end)s as well as rpwp and during HOTS too. it's the same accts tweeting. Most difference would come from solos and ppl who has biases. For example i follow this one acct on twitter and they seems to be rl bias. During rl's music i saw them tweeting so many times about everything regarding the album like streaming, records, achivements, sales, analysis etc etc. but now during MUSE release i have seen just two tweets from them. one was "I love when jm dances" and another was "I want the acoustic version now" that's it nothing else at all. they talk more about what's going on in k-pop than the current album at hand. I see more tweets of mhj nd hybe drama from them than anything related to jm but as long as U're not hating on the I'm fine.
That's one of the reason in many others.
One thing i have also noticed is the more you make records the more tweets are there on the tl. in past i used to interact with big army accts so i used to see them on my tl alot but now i don't nd i hardly see them on my tl and I'm pretty fine with it. idk if they're talking about muse or not even lol.
About the treating jm underrated artist so pushing him more then I'll say all this time armys have underestimated jm. despite knowing he's atleast 3rd popular member all i have seen during face is how great and big jungkook and taehyung's solo albums are going to do. i have seen comments under jm's achivements as "This is just jm now imagine how jk and Tae's albums will do, oh they gonna EAT" from literally army chart update accounts and I'm swearing on whatever god i belive i have seen those comments from big accts as wel as other armys. None of them were expecting jm to do well and be that first korean soloist to get #1 on Spotify, #1 on hot100, #1 billboard artists. i remember this one pjm getting dragged in their qts by again update accts when that pjm said let's get jm #1 on hot100 and all armys up in their qts were laughing at them saying it's impossible for solo members to get it. i have seen one update+ shooter acct saying "girl it's good to aim high but let's be realistic now but do you know who can give us that #1 hot 100 ? jk x jb" lol these were the comments i have seen during face and i won't forget how everyone undermined jm's chart success despite him always doing the best chart wise among all members. Armys goal for jm was never #1 but it was top 60 on hot 100, it's only when they saw prediction acct's prediction they thought we have chance so I'll always give a big chunk of success of that #1 to jm's solos than armys. Not saying armys didn't help of course they did.
About jkk then there's nothing more for me to add cause what you're saying is what it is, has always been. wished it would change along the years but it never did and after chapt2 it's never going to change but has fuelled more hatred towards jm and jk together is all.
It might be my timeline. I follow Jikook and that one famous Jimin dance accounts so my "For You" page actually has a surprising number of Jimin solos. But I'm not fully convinced about your point. The members do not all get the same attention. ML and Yoongi get more support and enthusiasm for sure. People are not mass buying and streaming at the same level. Obviously, the most popular members have stronger solo fanbases, but even ot7 Armys are biased and there is a lot more enthusiasm for releases Armys know can break records vs. those that have no shot.
About underestimating Jimin, you're right, because his fanbase (solos + Jimin biased) is much stronger than I thought. But I disagree with some of your points. It's natural that Armys didn't expect that #1, but they moved fast when they realized there was a shot. They wouldn't have aimed for a #1 with JK either had he released Golden first. And after Face did so well, it's also kind of natural to expect that Golden and Layover could do better, because the fandom generally improves and achieves more with each win (at least for ml). Golden did do better than Face and Layover did pretty well for that kind of album tbh. The company also more or less improves with each cb.
But thanks for sharing your opinion. I still don't know what's real or not because it depends a lot on what you see on Twitter, but it's true that I misjudged the power of a strong solo (+Jimin biased) fanbase.
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I'm just reading this now since i was inactive (going again) so I'm replying now (not saying you were waiting for my reply but I'm the same anon who's ask this was 😅)
I don't really have anything to add other than I agree with everything you said there. i know all those accounts you're talking about, i even know the "random taekook" account you said there without u mentioning their @ because guess what? been there done that kinda..i saw that tkkr saying all those "Just because i follow TK biased doesn't mean I'm tkkr" this that bs when 99% tweets are about TK and them following all sort of tkkrs ones that drag jm too lol. and their little ot7 followers backing up them..idk who they're trying to fool as if we can't smell a trash from miles away 😭
being honest u don't need to be chronically online to see what is the shit that's going on in Fandom or How it's filled with Tkkrs. a newly entered fan can tell it's full of Tkkrs so idk what pleasure others get by Lying saying TK are most hated in Fandom (just Today i saw those tweets with thousands of likes).
What pisses me off tho is ot7 jkkrs acting like many of the armys don't hate jm deep down. saying "They're hating on jm so they're not army" is such a bs thing to say and literally big jkk blogs here say that but ask them why they generalize solos because there's good solos too who just support one member in peace without dragging anyone but nope for them "If you stan only one member then you're an anti" like who gets to decide that? You? and who are you? their logic is just as useless as kpopies to me. You're the only jkkr who even talked about all the things happening with jm others are too ot7s to even address those things. Them saying that Fandom majorly doesn't dislike jm because of TK as a ship is funny because the same Fandom was seen begging Tkkrs for help when taehyung and Jennie's video was leaked but sure.
Hope the deserved people gets their karma back is all i can hope for now because i know for a fact that things are going to get worse in future Especially with what's going on with hybe and tkkrs loser ass Linking all of that to "jm is company's fav and they force Jkk" shit.
hi anon! no I’m happy to hear from you again, it makes me feel more sane to see people with the same opinions on some of this lol 😭
Yeah, that one account who just makes corny tkk shipping jokes and is very clearly an actual tkkr but you had half of ARMYtwt coming to their defense because they were all part of the same clique and most of them are “tk-biased”. They were laughing saying that using a duo name doesn’t mean you’re a shipper but when people were pulling up screenshots of them literally reading AUs they would just deflect lmao 😭 It’s just embarrassing.
And yeah I saw that too, a big and popular account talking about tkk being the most hated 🥴 just the audacity to say that, as if we don’t all have eyes and see the absurd amount of followers and engagement tkk accounts have on EVERY platform. And I could write a thesis on the absolute obsession ARMYs have w/ a tk-subunit just proving how deeply enmeshed the tkk shipping bias is in this fandom. And talking about the fandom hating a duo, I could write another thesis on how ARMYs are insanely weird towards Jikook, like damn AYS just drove that home for me.
Yeah, the hardcore OT7 jkkrs who deny that the fandom treats Jimin weirdly are just bizarre to me. Literally right now there’s discourse going on about US streams and you can find multiple hit tweets where they are straight up shading and attacking Jikook up and down in the comments, especially JM (they’re for sure getting nastier towards JK about this but some of them can at least concede that he has GP/popularity, but for some reason the bulk of ARMYs think that w/ JM it must be favoritism bc in their minds they decided that tkk were miles ahead of him in popularity despite his solo music ALWAYS performing the best or second best in the group). Like throw a dart at a board and you can find a random reason that ARMYs resent JM, whether it be over associating him with his solos the most (literally HYBE saw and marked this as a problem??) to just the fact that ARMYs are literally full of tkkrs who ALWAYS resent him on some level. Bizarre for jkkrs of ALL people to try and deny this as hard as some of them do? (and like I said I’m not saying JM is the only member who gets weird treatment from ARMYs sometimes, but he for sure gets it the most by virtue of tkkrs being as big as they are if nothing else. There are still tons of ARMYs who love him tho obviously).
And 100% on some jkkrs/ARMYs trying to say that people who hate JM aren’t ARMY to wash their hands of the issue. It’s literally not true because half the people shading him consider themselves ARMYs, a lot of tkkrs consider themselves ARMYs, ARMYs literally make up the following and likes of toxic tkk accounts, so what are they even talking about? That attitude is literally why it got so bad and we are where we are. Like just say you don’t care about Jimin and go I guess.
It's like we can be fandom critical and still care about/be a part of the fandom, this is the way it's been for me and literally any community I’ve ever been a part of? If you care about something you want to make it better which means looking inward and trying to identify and fix the problems. I get there’s a fine line between being critical and “victimizing” and “solo narratives” and “manti narratives” but c’mon, we can use critical thinking to differentiate, yeah? Because not every fandom/company complaint makes you a “solo” or “manti”. Just insane to me.
There’s so many issues with hardcore OT7 logic that we could get into tbh, but you’re right in that there’s nothing wrong with liking only one or two members as long as you’re not hating on the others. And tbh there’s nothing wrong with not liking and supporting all of them equally when isn’t it just normal to have preferences and to stream the music you enjoy the most? And just a note, the funny thing is that a good chunk of ARMYs who complain about this ARE pretty heavily biased, they just don’t want to admit it, even to themselves. And that’s one of the reasons diet-solos emerge and are so prevalent in the fandom right now.
I think the karma is definitely the fandom falling apart at the seams right now (even though sadly good people are getting punished for it). It’s toxic as hell in ARMY spaces, good ARMYs have left in droves, our charting is not great for non-Jikook (part of this I just blame on HYBE and their bad strategy of relying wholly on the fandom, or maybe it’s some of the members strategy tbf, but whoever decided, it wasn’t a good idea). I mean, I guess we’ll see what happens when BTS return, maybe more people will return and things will improve/stabilize somewhat but I also don’t think there’s really ever going back to how things were in the fandom either. Plus BTS are going to focus on group work for a minute, but it’s never going to be the same rate as pre-CH2, the solo careers are here to stay and we have no idea what the actual balance of solo/group/subunit work will be yet. I guess we’ll see but at least we know the karma is that JM antis and tkkrs are like the most miserable jobless people on the planet and JM is happy and healthy and wealthy and loved, so there’s that if nothing else. Stantwt in general just full of miserable losers.
Anyways sorry for yapping so much again lmao, I resonate with you on all these issues, I could go on forever about some of this lol so I’ll stop. And for sure, it would be nice for more jkkrs to talk about this kind of stuff tbh, at least the ones who are active in the fandom. And yeah the situation with the HYBE leaks and how they’re already doing the most to twist and start another smear campaign on JM and jkk, just insane 🫠 you know if solo fights were just name-calling it wouldn’t be as much of an issue, I don’t feel like some people understand the kind of damage these groups are doing and the lengths they go to. But we will just keep streaming and supporting and doing our best I guess 😭 same old same old, always something insane happening.
#anon#ask#discourse#the lack of places to have good faith discussions#is one of the issues that has led to like#so much radicalization too#no one in this fandom is allowed to have a nuanced opinion#it's tiring#anyways sorry for rambling and getting off topic#a lot going on lately 😵💫#im about over it tbh#im sure tkkrs are going wild#with the hybe monitoring shipping thing too 🥴#jimin
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https://x.com/sebi_JK/status/1821496593192997258?t=whpJsTUyciKywRzghYAtxA&s=19
I may be exaggerating but like... the truth is right there😭😭. I saw someone say they would have been mad if this was their ship. Like ME TOO!! Who in their right mind think a company is going to highlight a couple SO MUCH while they are in the military of a effing homophobic country???
Hybe changing the subtitles, cutting scenes and making everything so people will have a certain mindset. All in the sake of marketing.
Even if you think Hybe don't care if these two are a couple or not, let me remind you the company as well as the members wants them to be back as a group in 2025. I fear this wouldn't be possible with the couple being out before they even get a chance to finish.
No but seriously speaking....
Hi anon!
😂… it is soooo clear. I mean, that part of promo was clickbait at its finest. Had Jkkrs not been so annoying, I’d almost feel sorry for the way Hybe uses them.
Jkkrs really set themselves up to be disappointed and confused though. The way they are now all mad about Tae being included ‘it was supposed to be a Jkk show!’ ‘Why do they let him say ‘our’?’. They have constantly seen the travel show as theirs, as Jkk content (aided by the company) when it’s not theirs, it’s Jk and Jm’s… and now Tae’s as well. They can do what they want, it’s jkkrs own fault for having expectations that were unrealistic to start with.
All the ‘they still chose each other to enlist with’ is nonsense from their perspective. Because the buddy system is for friends and family to enlist together. It’s platonic in essence. Everything makes sense if you just look at Jm and Jk as friends.
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now why would a company use the second most popular ‘ship’ to make money? so why would they go w an option that won’t get them the most money possible. jjks hate jm and they seem to not mind tae for the most part and all showing jkk tgt does is create problems and conflict so why. everybody and their mothers know tkkrs are the largest cult so what sense does it make for hybe to use jikook instead of taekook?
Hi anon?
Confused about which intonation to use while reading this… also disliking the ‘cult’ reference.. that is just ridiculous and only used by people who don’t know how to win an argument with using just normal words.
But.. yes why indeed? It’s almost as if there’s something holding them back right?
I do suspect that Jjk’s dislike Jm because BH pushes Jkk and if BH were to push Tkk I’d think it possible their opinion on Tae might change.
All in all I’m not sure how to read your ask.
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https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/727362861289144320/httpswwwtumblrcomdearweirdme7272030984461680?source=share and this is why I keep saying that hybe truly doesn't care about tae's image and wellbeing, it's all about closeting, silencing him and punishment for his boldness, the tn thing is obviously a pr stunt I saw ppl who believed it bc of gh pics doubting it after the Paris walk , like it was so obviously staged and everything following by jn own staff was made to maximize the rumor not to kill it, that's textbook definition of pr ( and yes offense to that anon: you should buy a brain if you think those badly edited pictures are real and that a company and an artist would just simply allow to have their real private lives violated for a year without doing anything at all and if you think any company would allow such a bad roll out for a real relationship, that would only harm their own partners and make ppl not to take them and their relationship seriously, it only makes sense when you look it through the lens of blantly keeping the speculation by not confirming nor denying bc that's what maximizes the attention, literally mediaplay) but Tae has too many ppl that already hated him in a very organized way way before those rumors (jokers created and still fed by the company) and they will always want to think the worst about him to pay attention and apply common sense, and the company knows that and they still didn't care, they didn't care about the negative repercussions he'll have to deal with and they haven't made any strategy to deal with that, they keep feeding jokers bc their priority is protecting jk from his real gay rumors now that he is under scooter wing ( no one takes jikook seriously besides their own shippers and there's nothing to dig up there, it's your typical kpop fs ship with lots of company content ) and also protecting him from pjms and jokers who would turn of him for being more successful than jm by giving them content and showing them as close (they were already doing that and pjms are still furious), jk is the member they have invested the most and his relationship with Tae has always been a risky thing that could make their investments go to hell, I do think there must be something on it for Tae for him to accept too ( I believe a lot of coercion too) but ultimately this serves many purposes and shutting Tae up must be one of the upsides for hybe and they'll keep it like that bc they don't care and have never cared about Tae being hated massively and having his image tarnished, he isn't the priority, their money is.
Hi anon!
I don’t really agree about the company protecting Jk more by playing into Jkk. There has not actually been much Jkk-ing this year I think. Jkkrs themselves were in scrambles because they got so little, some even jumping ship because of it. I think there has actually been more real Tkk moments than real Jkk moments since solo era started.
But I do think your mention of Jkkrs is an interesting one, because Jkkrs do play a part in the whole Taennie rumor mill. They keep the rumors going and they emphasize those every chance they get. I wonder if the company took that into account when this pr-stunt was concocted. They ofcourse took into account Tkkrs, and Army as a whole.. but would they have considered Jkkrs? Possibly not. Maybe things did get out of hand a bit and that’s why Tae seemed to leave ship after Paris so fast.
Companies are all about money, but the money is where the artist is. If Tae does well the company does well. Though Tae gets hate, I think for the most part he is very loved. If they keep the Taennie moments away (by backlisting questions, no linking them, no sightings, maybe some shade by Tae himself) things should settle soon enough. Right now things seem a bit more tense, because there is anticipation. I think we’ll get a taste of what it’s going to be like real soon. Jennie won’t be a topic. Maybe she’ll be linked to someone new soon, and than it’s going to be over.
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Well, hiding tkk is one thing, but hybe deliberately putting that self-depracating narrative from Tae while uplifting the rest of the members by saying they’re perfect is another.
I never really fiddled into the idea of them hiding taekook before, but we saw how they cut off tkk scenes from that video call with armys (or something), so the accusation of them cutting off tkk scenes and intentionally not pairing them during photoshoots is getting more obvious now. They might actually be hiding something.
And of course, it doesnt make sense how they don’t market the two most popular members by giving them a subunit together. That simply doesnt make sense considering that they both have written or recorded songs together. Tae even said two years ago that they would release a Christmas song together. I wonder what happened to that.
And why on earth would they dedicate an entire chapter for jkk alone? Like, what are they trying to achieve? It’s like memories dvd but written.
Hi anon!
Well, I won’t be able to say much about narratives and how each member is portrayed in the book without reading the whole thing. Right now it’s predominantly Jkkrs laying out the Jkkry in the book, and that gives us a slightly screwed view of what the book actually conveys I think.
I have this really great ask in my inbox still from an anon explaining how they see Tae and Jk’s separation time. They think Tae and Jk did actually drift apart in their friendship and that’s why we haven’t seen much of them (I am going to make posting that a priority this week, because it’s been in my inbox for a real long time now… i just haven’t had time to go into it the way I want to). But that cannot be a reason for cutting them of, for not pairing them, for having them visibly separated on screen. The only reason for that would be that Tae and Jk were so on the outs that having them work together would be impossible, and there’s absolutely nothing that points to that. The footage we did see of them during the separation years show them comfortable, friendly, close, and attuned to each other. There’s no reason they wouldn’t have been able to at least work together professionally and Bighit/hybe would’ve utilized their joint popularity more. The clear separation of Tae and Jk while they do get along is a real indication of something being up imo.
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