#irresponsible batman

[kay-enemy]

Let us never forget the time an escaped Arkham patient wandered into the Batcave.

and is able to drive off with the batmobile !!!

(Batman #403, 1987)

DC would have us believe Batman is such a good tactician that the entire Justice League would be lost without him, but he can't figure out how to keep random spelunkers from finding his secret hideout? Or even figure out that he should try to keep people out? Or just, not leave his keys in the car???

[dukeofthomas]

"Are the Robins child soldiers" It depends. If the story is super serious and into exploring complex morality and grounded from reality's standards, then yes. If the story is lighthearted, made for children, fluff, etc., then no. If it's somewhere in the middle, it might depend.

If an author wants to write a story seriously delving into the fucked up-ness of children fighting criminals, they can, and if you don't like it, you can read something else.

If an author wants to write a fun story about villains and heroes featuring Robin in a world where that's not an issue, they can, and if you don't like it, you can read something else.

If an author wants to write a serious story but not apply IRL-logic to Robin, they can, and if you don't like it, you can read something else.

[versasfanficwastedump]

i don’t care what you tell me. i don’t care what canon you cite: jason is a responsible gun owner.

his safes are always locked, and he’s got his guns and ammo stored separately. his guns never just sit around loaded except the one he uses for home security and it’s still locked up in a safe by his bed. he doesn’t point it at anyone he isn’t prepared to fatally shoot.

jason uses guns but he’s not an idiot.

[ky-landfill]

[inkpotsprite]

Either Duke and Cass are truly scolded here, or they're holding back laughter at the sheer audacity of this man to scold them for keeping secrets and trying to handle things alone.

[bruciemilf]

While I absolutely love the " Battinson has no idea what to do with a kid beside love it with everything in him, and Alfred sighs in Competent Guardian" trope, I offer you:

Alfred watching Bruce make sure Dick has a curfew, getting involved with school activities like bake sales and and art projects, goes to the doctor regularly, has playdates and actual social life, all Responsible Parent Things he most definitely Did Not Do:

[weirdo-from-bonesborough]

People always say bruce kidnapped jason immediately after meeting him but at least he only took him in after leaving him at the crime orphanage didn’t work out. With cass they had exactly one conversation consisting of them drawing in the dirt and throwing punches at each other while bruce projected his past experiences onto her and then he was welcoming her in like “i have complete confidence that she won’t kill anybody”

[missbluesunflowersstuff]

"Dick was an abusive brother to Jason" "Dick was aggressive with Jason" "Dick gave Robin to Damian" "Damian stole the Robin mantle" my brother in Batman, no one of those words are in the bible! Wtf are you into about?

[mikami1992]

Crazy idea.... Number.... no idea which one

One afternoon at Wayne Enterprises, a lawyer came to contact Bruce Wayne... the reason?... an application for Divorce for abandonment and a waiver of parental rights of an unborn baby..... but the lawsuit is not for the bat... it is for one of his children who, being untraceable, had to resort to sending the notice and the lawyers to his father-in-law...

...Bruce has realized that the dates of the marriage match the dates of the incident with the prototype spores/gas/chemical where some of his family members were missing...no memories...and still hours away without knowing what happened.

[starlooove]

Duke should have a chain with a lil bat on it and that’s all I can really say about fashion

[to-the-batcomputer]

ok isn't batman a protector. isn't a big part of his whole thing the preciousness of life. and isn't robin (all of them, but THE FIRST ONE esp) an extension of the things bruce believes? they're a team. and haven't they dealt with people who are in crisis thousands of times. AND WASNT DICK GRAYSON A COP.

THEN EXPLAIN TO ME THE TITANS SCENE WITH JASON ON THE ROOFTOP

[fortune-slip]

i think i should reread batman the knight. as a treat

[yellowocaballero]

what stuff can't you forgive batman beyond for? :o

Ugh OK. Disclaimer that none of these things make Batman Beyond bad. None of this is bad writing. I just don't like it. It's fine, actually, I just hate it.

I know Batman Beyond had to justify its existence somehow and answer the question "why is the ONLY PERSON who could become Batman a random teenager off the street?". There had to be some sort of reason why Bruce was completely isolated from Dick, Tim, and Barbara, and why Dick or Tim wasn't Batman.

The ways in which it got rid of them though!! Dick's like 60 and he hates Bruce and never speaks to him! Barbara's a cop, which she would never do, who had a thing with Bruce. Superman's infected by Starro so all of his friends at the League are out. And freaking Return of the Joker, oh my god. Putting aside the fucking sadness of Tim also never speaking to his dad and living an entire life pretending Batman and Robin never happened. COME ON. I really didn't like the "Terry is Bruce's secret kid" thing either, but that's less of a moral and more of a personal stance.

Sometimes a work is the most influential work in your writing completely against your will and without your permission. Return of the Joker traumatized me as a kid, and for some reason although I hate it SO FUCKING MUCH, it's permeated a lot of what I write with Tim. His death in the Reverse Robins thing was directly what happened in ROTJ, except he killed himself instead of the Joker. And I never even get into much detail on Tim's death there because it makes me sad.

Batman Beyond, you did not stop to consider those of you who were watching every DCAU cartoon sequentially, and who had come fresh off watching the most adorable small child run around doing Robin things in the final season of BTAS. You did not stop to wonder if he was a baby only a week before in my own mind. And now this.

DCAU!Batman had always been a lighthearted, kind person who had a robust support network. He had shipteasing. With Wonder Woman. It was really sad to see every good thing in his life stripped away and turn him withered, bitter, and old. Showing Batman in that light isn't bad in and of itself, but I was attached to this guy :c. Why hadn't they just set up another continuity where these characters didn't exist so they didn't have to worry about depressingly shoving them aside?

Oh, and. Just kidding. I can forgive them for all of this. I hate it, but it's fine. What I actually cannot forgive them for is for fucking Bruce and Barbara having an affair. Oh my god. Oh my god. Bad. So bad.

[anormalkidingotham]

Being in Metropolis, what do you think of our Hero Superman? Do you agree he is better than Batman?

i think if he was really so super, he would leave the relative safety of metropolis for a bit and help out in gotham where you literally can't go outside without being robbed

[oveliagirlhaditright]

Part of me is so super excited for this upcoming Batman: Brave and the Bold movie--because I've been wanting a live-action film with a Robin for so long, and surely the rest of the Batfam will show up--but there's a large part of me that's like, "Why did the first Robin we got onscreen in ages have to be Damian Wayne?" Even though I really do get the logic behind this choice, I think.

[chiropterx]

What are your thoughts on Batman?

A shiver ran down his spine at the sound of that name. Everybody in Gotham knew of the mysterious vigilante who haunted the crime-infested streets during the dead of night, putting fear into the hearts of criminals and civilians alike and Kirk Langstrom was no exception, even as a humble scientist who worked with actual bats. The irony might have made him smile if it didn't hit so close to home. The stories he'd heard over the years... Kirk almost shuddered. They were enough to give a grown man nightmares, made him remember things he rather didn't back when he was the one causing unintentional terror, but he'd since learned that Batman was so much more than a figure of fear who existed to keep criminals looking over their shoulders. He was a source of hope, that no matter how bad things got or how hopeless it all seemed, somebody was doing the best he could, to accomplish a seemingly impossible goal. "I... I think he's trying to do the right thing. Gotham is a very troubled city. Always has been for as long as I've lived here, but I don't think many of us can deny the good he's done for so many people either." He said with a gulp, trying his hardest to find the right words.

"Batman... he scares a lot of people. Scares the GCPD too, but I think he's the only one who is capable, really capable, of handling the mayhem going on out there night after night. Why? I don't really know why he fights so hard for this city... but I do know I wouldn't be where I am today if not for him. He might scare a lot of people and maybe for good reason, but he's also the best damn thing that's happened to Gotham. I think he's trying to do the impossible, trying to make the streets safe enough for anybody to walk home at night without getting mugged, blown up, abducted or eaten by wild animals... but if somebody doesn't try, it'll never get any better. That's how society dies." He pauses, expression dour before smiling brightly. "Besides, if somebody is willing to put his life on the life every night to accomplish that dream, how bad can he really be?"