#ipytm ep3

[nanonkorapat]

the moment I saw teh's shirt at the end of ipytm ep3 I knew it would break my heart 😭😭😭😭😭

[gunsatthaphan]

🌹🦋

[serenedipity0]

IPYTM EP 3 RANT PT.2 (spoilers!!)

man not only how they could've done smth else with the plot and how itsay built such a beautiful story only for it to have this ???? confusing episode, it's quite sad to see teh doing shit like this. there's already so much shit out there that pushes the messed up "bisexuals only cheat and can't decide" narrative and I don't want this show to add to that??

deep sigh.

and I understand that hey, there's alot that can change between two people in a year and we as viewers can't see that because it's a 1 year skip between each episode but why, why have teh worry and tell oh-aew in episode 2 that he's scared oh-aew would leave him when he does this shit in the next year??? gah it frustrates me to no end. I know for a fact itsay teh would NEVER be okay with this in any circumstance 😤

I just wish we could see more of oh-aews perspective. I was hoping ipytm gives us more of that but everytime oh aew is on screen, its directly related to teh so far. he's a main character too!! what about his growth? why is he reduced to just being "lonely", "change in course" and "lovesick" ????

and finally, don't get me started on how much I looked forward to finding out what happens during this scene which was my favourite poster out of all of them :

only to find out teh did all of that purely for his drama exercise ????? and oh-aew didn't know shit ???? most queer love scenes are extremely sexualised and despite how fucked up the context of this scene was, it was still beautiful and bkpp did outstanding ofc but holy shit, knowing the context genuinely ruins it's so much, it hurts 😀👍 and knowing that there is a chance this might be the last kiss on intimate scene in the series is just so goddamn sad, I can't even express how I feel :((((

gahhhh anyways yeah I think that's pretty much all I have to say :/ I really hope EP4 and EP5 fixes this mess because I would be so upset if this beautiful show got reduced to an end like this. itsay was a masterpiece and i guess its hard to live up to smth THAT good and meet everyone's expectations but EP.3 was just an absolute downer fr :( if you've read this far!! thank you so much omg??? I hope you're having a good day wherever you are on this planet and you know that you're loved :) here's to hoping things will turn out for the better!!! here's pp with red hair to make ur day slighty better !!! ♥️

[greatyme]

now that ipytm is over I can finally post my itsay vs ipytm cry counter

*includes anything like when they tear up, not just full on sobbing

**includes when they were children too

***counted per setting (if one of them is crying continuously in one setting it’s considered just one cry, if they’re crying “continuously” throughout multiple settings it’s counted individually)

[billkinspp]

as much as i'm anticipating ep4 i am more excited about the documentary ep this week. i wanna see billkin's take on teh's actions this ep and also BASICALLY EVERYTHING

[tehohaews]

Hi :-) I read your tags to my post <3 I think (dread) what will happen is this: Teh will get everything he ever wanted: the brilliant career as an actor AND he will get Jai, the boyfriend who wants the same things Teh wants and who understands him in a way Oh-aew doesnt (barf). The show has spent most time this season on building up Tehjai and I think they believe this is the new grand love story we're supposed to root for (thus the longing looks between them). We'll get a final conversation between Teh and Oh-aew after the next time jump where Oh says that Teh really is better off with Jai and should totally fight for him. Oh-aew himself will get an office job which is the final image we'll see of him. No love story for him obviously. I honestly don't see any other way this season could end...

I had more to say in the tags of that post but i reached the tag limit 🚶‍♀️🚶‍♀️🚶‍♀️. Anyway i keep remembering what oab said about his role that "Jai is a character that is there to test ohaew and teh's love for each other" so idk i dont see a tehjai endgame cause of that. But tbh yeah they really spent more time developing tehjai than they spent it on showing teh's and ohaew's relationship. But idk i dont see jai choosing teh cause jai has high ambitions and he doesnt want to be tied down with someone (hence why he left james in the first place and omg bitch even had the audacity to mourn why james didnt come to his play). So in ep5 unless Teh is hugely successful or smth i dont see Jai choosing him, but if Teh really is HUGELY successful you bet Jai will be the first person who'll come running lol. And i dont think Teh will be HUGELY successful so i dont see a tehjai endgame + oab's words. So my prediction for ep5 is that there will be a timejump of one year (as much as i want it to be 10 years, they said it was a story spanning 4-5 years? So yeah 😩). Ohaew, my son, the loml, my sunshine, is doing amazing in life and got a nice job and is living his dreams 🥺💞💞 when one day he has to work on this project with Teh. And like Oh Aew might be the one whose trying to be professional and out some distance and Teh is just like bestie its been a while i miss you lets grab a bite and my son agrees. So in the talk Teh is like i have grown™ and have changed™ and im sorry™ for everything (itsay ep1 ending 😚) and ohaew might be like i m okay with being friends again but idk if i can be more than that (itsay ep1 ending again 😚) and then they might leave it at that AN OPEN ENDING that's what im saying lol. And they might show us a few of their moments later like yeah besties something will happen between them later lol. Idk to me that's the only route this could take cause ik this is nadao but i really dont think (after my ambulance) they'll completely disband (lol) tehohaew. But the real thing I'm worried about is that they'll not give Teh the redemption arc cause if ep4 was supposed to make me feel 1% for him im sorry it didnt work. I dont buy that he is remorseful even when he went to Q's to apologise to oh. He did it cause he has no one now and like i said earlier, if jai reciprocated his feelings, ohaew would've been a passing thought. The line "i never thought you’d break up with me" was so fucking stupid like yeah I'll go and kiss other people behind your back but i wont break up with you 🥰🥰. And imo they tried to victimize teh by showing how lonely and miserable he was (also there's this clip linetv released where teh had a convo with his mom and he was like mai i got the role but im sad). So yeah teh's redemption arc might not even happen they'll just throw it under the rug with a time jump. If they did the breakup earlier in the ep then they could have showed us more of teh's suffering (🥰) and make him realize his guilt but yeah ig tehjai longing scenes are more important 🥰🥰

[hadikaesque]

Wait, IPYTM orginal soundtracks aren't as bad as I thought they were the first time. Joking, all of it slaps and I am actually obsessed.

[itoldsunset]

i think looking back at the whole thing my main problem with ipytm is that it packed too many plot points into five short episodes and it didn’t go all the way on any of those points (except jai which ofc makes it a sore spot for a sequel with many other potential directions 🙄), and that really detracted from our ability to feel/connect with the story and it especially feels jarring when we compare it to itsay, where p'boss let every scene run its course no matter how slow or silent, which then made us feel everything.

also, pet peeve: why were the ipytm episodes so short, when there was so much more dialogue and context needed for everything they were throwing at us?? we were robbed of some necessary background/explanation.

at the end of the day it was probably not a good idea to cram five years of their lives into five episodes and that kind of fucked over ipytm in a big way. there was a lot of potential that felt somewhat subdued to me, like they could have pushed it further. i would have loved a deeper dive into the commentary about gender expression and sexual orientation: oh-aew being called girly in the casting, and mangpong saying he and plug were "girly" friends (the "girly" part wasn't translated) and he didn't expect them to fall for each other. in some ways it's nice that this was subtle, but in other ways i kind of wish it was more out there. meanwhile all the details about the entertainment industry and comm arts ended up taking way too much screen time relative to its role in driving the central conflict, which really comes down to teh once again not knowing himself.

we needed to see the jump between the end of ep2 and the start of ep3, how did teh go from crying in oh-aew's arms, to no longer wanting to invite oh-aew to plays with him? i can put the pieces of the puzzle together, but i shouldn't have to. we needed to see more of what oh-aew was going through this whole time other than having the time of his life and being the perfect partner to teh. (though i kind of get it in a way, since oh-aew and teh have always represented the expectation vs. reality meme to me).

and despite how much i love oab and how well he did here, we needed to see way less of jai. i'm honestly not even mad about the cheating plot itself but knowing how unpopular they are, and how risky they are, it's the kind of thing where you really gotta nail the execution to pull it off and with only five episodes, they couldn't do it justice. i see the parallels between teh/tarn and teh/oh-aew here, i really do. and i see teh giving his everything to perform well to make jai's dreams come true, the way teh gave up his spot in itsay to make oh-aew's dreams come true. but the fact that so many of us were left thinking "what the fuck, teh??" means there are unanswered questions about how he arrived at that point, which is not something we want to feel about the major breaking point in their relationship.

anyway, i love the central messages of ipytm, even if i think they were too mean on teh in bringing him here. i know the middle part was kind of a mess but i love where teh and oh-aew ended up. it felt real that teh had to date airy to figure out that he was wrong about what he thought he wanted, and it felt real that oh-aew had to be alone for a while to figure out how to love himself without teh and be okay without him, so that oh-aew can choose teh again freely this time. i love that this episode was all about oh-aew, after everything, CHOOSING to love teh because he knows that that's what makes him happy. and teh just being the absolute luckiest guy in the world to have fallen in love with someone who is that perceptive, patient, and understanding. and i hope he’s learned his lesson and is ready to be the partner oh-aew deserves.

[martinmynster]

i think the impact of the physical intimacy they will exhibit in ipytm relies heavily on the fact that oh-aew knowing what he wants and being upfront about it has always touched teh with intention be it the hibicuses, the shoulder in the beach chasing scene, the thigh grab on the sofa, etc. the list goes on for days no need to explain but teh being most disconnected from his own feelings is used to deflecting and diverting topics in order to keep the unpleasant reality away and i think you can see that stark difference in their "break up" scene just before it happens when oh is tediously helping him dress up but teh is playing as an excuse to touch him back. yes there's a lot of other explanations for this behavior teh being teh but it all aligns perfectly with how the only moment where his touch is an undeniable admission of feelings (-› end of ep3) is also the moment he runs away overwhelmed. and im pretty sure that the hug in the closing scene is the first of many loaded gestures that will have me laying awake at night as i am doing now.

[vantaeskookies]

IPYTM EP5 (or me finally being able to breathe)

y'all idc idc I loved this ending. At the end of the day I'm a fluff enthusiast unable to want anything besides rainbows and unicorns and love winning. I'm not even gonna try to think if it made sense or not, I'm just so happy to see Teh and Oh together again after their hardships! ep3 and 4 maybe weren't the best but ep5 felt like a breath of fresh air. I loved it. Sorry for being lame.

(p.s: you shouldn't shame people for liking or not liking the episode or series, at the end of the day it's all subjective and you don't know how some things resonate to some people. I just see soooooo much negativity like,, chill)

[namtanlovesfilm]

ok so this will be probably all over the place but I genuinely need to vent about ep3 I didn’t expect such a huge slap in the face towards viewers not from this show at least...teh kissed jai because he’s bored of oh aew and he had sex with oh aew because jai told him too fuck I mean he probably even thought about jai while doing it it’s so disgusting just beyond words for me also their kiss got better lighting and angles than any of the teh oa kisses which is another misunderstanding for me

like they’re genuinely trying so hard to make us hate the main couple and there’s gotta be an explanation for this they won’t end up together in the end right? because how could they if oh finds out about all of this mental betrayal I mean he will be crushed 💔 I can’t imagine them getting past this it’s huge huge betrayal mental and physical their relationship at this point doesn’t make sense it’s toxic

i've seen people say this is in-character for teh and others say the opposite. kinda made me realise that he's done this before to tarn, he cheated on her with ohaew cause it was something different. he also flattered ohaew to get him back and did stuff with him just to turn around and go back with tarn. so it's like he's had no growth/maturity, like he has not learned to not play with people's feelings or string them along until he figures out what he wants. quite disappointing writing :/ did not expect ipytm to be better than itsay (they set the bar pretty damn high) but this is just 💀💀

also the fact teh and jai kissed more passionately than any on-screen kiss between teh and oh-aew…when i was watching it i was literally like “why would they direct them to kiss like that if they weren’t trying to suggest teh was never really that passionate about oh-aew” because you’re always left to assume they’re just choosing to keep the kiss scenes in the show more ? idk the word but like modest/teen viewer friendly. but clearly they weren’t because teh and jai had a proper makeout. why would they direct the main couple to have a less passionate kiss that the affair?? it literally feels like they’re taking a dump on season 1 by entirely reframing it in a context where teh was never really that into oh-aew. bring bas back lol

hi anon, I put all of your asks together bc I'm pretty sure they're all from you, I hope I'm not mistaken! I knew since the trailer that teh & jai would have something AND I prepared myself mentally for literal weeks to endure the pain, yet it still was a slap in the face for me. so it's okay to be upset. I agree with everything you're saying, especially about teh's lack of growth. he was already lowkey toxic in season one, yet first of all he was in high school therefore immature & more forgivable, but also it was heavily implied that he had an emotional & maturity glow up in the last episode... which is all undone by this sequel. also teh & jai's kiss being that good is definitely not a subconscious decision. I think they might have wanted to try showing that it's a kiss out of pure lust, but still... it's just so sad to see oh-aew & teh having sex for the first time in a while & remembering their first time together being sandwiched between teh discovering his attraction to jai & then kissing him... even though I didn't expect ipytm to be anywhere near as perfect as itsay was for me, it's just so fucking sad to undo all the beautiful work done in season one for angst & drama... also I have no idea if they’re gonna try to put them back together, but both the director & the script of the show have been hinting at a sad ending so like.... 💀💀💀

xxx

[gunsatthaphan]

“we’re happy for you”

[burninglilys]

ipytm spoilers ahead/////~~~

so there really was no reason for all that cheating if you’re going to have an ending like THAT, huh? i adore cheesy endings but then what was the point of ep3&ep4? why the cheating plot of things remain unresolved? they could’ve had the same ending even without cheating, without jai. could’ve literally had them drift apart because they are not the same people that they were when they fell in love. could’ve broken up then, idk!!! it would have seemed more real than this because it literally seems like oh-aew is stepping foot into the same toxic cycle again.

[billkinspp]

besties amidst my ipytm ep3 crisis and me trying to write a coherent post about my thoughts, i happened to talk with one of my friends (who doesn't watch the show) and i'm left with a burning question: is it not normal to see yourself as the characters or see yourself in them?

[tehohaews]

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[autobahnmp3]

ok ig i have to write down my thoughts on ipytm so far...

- i agree with this one post i rbd earlier today that it's a shame we got itsay that was the formation of a relationship and now ipytm that seems to be the end of one but we got very little of them being in the relationship

- it seems to me that a lot of ppl who are mad at ipytm and the writing and teh don't get teh's character? he is emotionally very slow which makes him fuck up in a lot of ways. he doesn't even realize what he feels until he has acted upon his emotions.  it seems to me that everyone around him figures out how he feels before teh himself does (oh-aew in the hammock in itsay, jai intentionally using his feelings for his play to get teh to act well with his 'directing style' lmao that's another bullet point) which leads him to act before thinking through what he's feeling and what the weight of the consequences of his actions will be. none of this takes away the responsibility he has for his actions obviously.

- again this isn't me excusing teh cheating but him being so oblivious to his own feelings (and being maybe in denial until the rehearsal kiss) gave jai the opportunity to manipulate teh's feelings to make him perform better in his play. that's why i felt for teh at the end of ep3

- ep4 was more from oh-aew's perspective which i appreciated. i felt the pov change hard bc while watching ep3 i wasn't that mad at teh but as soon as ep4 started i felt so mad on behalf of oh-aew. the flower-beating scene was soooo cathartic i loved it... good for him <3 the whole scene from the moment they sang which felt so uncomfortable to teh only being able to look at jai (now that i think abt it the scene starting from teh seeking out jai beforehand it all led up to this flower-beating and it was so well done) and the cut to oh-aew's FACE it broke me....... god .....

- do i think they'll end up getting back together? i don't know man. do i want them to? idk man. before i even watched these last 2 episodes (i had spoilers) i think whatever their relationship is their lives are undeniably entangled. if they're friends enemies lovers they have a strong connection. and you can tell they care about eachother a lot. oh-aew going to confront jai before teh might seem sneaky but it can also be read as him looking out for teh. to get a sense of what kind of person jai is. idk if it's just me but i don't think jai passed oh-aew's vibe check from the start.

- oh-aew knows teh. he had to push teh to figure out how he feels in itsay and he did it gently. he knew he knew how teh felt before teh had figured it out himself. and he encourages him to talk about his feelings and figure it out (the rooftop scene in ep2(?)). he never used teh's feelings for his own gain and he respects him. jai saw teh's feelings and saw an opportunity to manipulate him for his own gain.

- idk what alse to say lol. this isn’t me being a ‘teh apologist’ i just think it’s pointless to me to say ‘cheating bad’. i just think i relate to the emotionally dumb characters lmao. it takes me ages to realize if im mad at someone etc. ig that’s why i’ve mostly been thinking about the last few eps from his perspective.