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#junelle bromfield#team jamaica#colorism#misogynoir#internalized misogynoir#antiblackness#internalized antiblackness#jamaica#black women#dark skin#dark skinned#lmsu
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It's so simple, yet apparently, it's hard for some people to get it together oof
society if women were seen as people
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"We cannot live without our lives" || Combahee River Collective members march in a memorial to 11 women of color murdered in the Boston area (1979). Photograph by Tia Cross via Verso
#International Women's Day#Combahee River Collective#Black feminism#misogyny#misogynoir#violence against black women
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Going through the spock x uhura tag and seeing the anti-black hatred being spewed towards the beautiful actress portraying Uhura because she has darker skin, more "ethnic" features and short hair is so sickening to me. And it appears to be coming from women of color.
Wow. The colorism is hateful and nasty.
#spock x uhura#celia rose gooding#saying she's ugly and not the right casting choice just exposes your Internal ugliness#disgraceful#and this really has nothing to do with a rom ship#it's just so anti-black#it's steeped in misogynoir
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One of the(many) things that bugs me about this fandom when it comes to Nettles is how even mentioning her relationship with Daemon is considered “reducing” her role to just being that of his "love interest.” This idea is ridiculous to me because it’s promoting the same thing that they accuse Nettles x Daemon shippers of(aka stripping down her characterization).
Yes, Nettles is her own independent character with her own story that ends and begins outside of Daemon, but he is a part of her story.
Her relationship with him is just as important as being an orphan bastard (non-Valyrian) girl from Driftmark, the only dragonrider of Sheepstealer(and probably the last dragonrider for 200 years), or a fire witch to the Burned Men. All those aspects make Nettles Nettles. She is more than one thing and romantic love doesn’t detract from it. It only adds another layer to her characterization.
#nettles#nettles characterization#house of the dragon#hotd#hotd spoilers#nettles f&b#dattles#nettles x daemon#I feel like this is being driven in large part due to misogynoir#and some internalized misogynoir from some black fans themselves(and I’m not talking about black as in the team)#this literally happens a disproportionate amount with black women characters and I am sick of it#a la shuri and people getting mad at people shipping her with namor#romantic relationships are important canon romantic relationships are important until unless that character is a black woman#then it becomes inappropriate somehow or reducing her arc#miss me with the fake concern for her character 🙃#yeah that’s all I have to say on this for now#bncommentary
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I felt this article in my soul. Essentially: featurism glorifies Eurocentric standards of beauty (that is, the obsession with light hair and light eyes and thin noses) and it's something we still need to work on.
#racim#colorism#featurism#when i was little kida from atlantis was my Black princess because tiana was not a thing#and she helped me love my dark skin. but I HATED my dark eyes and hair I used to wish I could have blue eyes and white hair like kida#because i thought it the only way black women could be beautiful was having those eurocentric features#and although now ive overcome my own internalized antiblackness i 100% agree with the author#and im very tired of the dark skin+light eyes and hair trope#antiblackness#misogynoir#eurocentric beauty standards#on media
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Gwen is not only a woman, but a woman that is the obstacles of the main gay ship. No way they would ever treat her well
when will we ever learn 🫠
#oh and then when people call out others for their treatment of Gwen they will call you homophobic!#hooray!!!! what a great idea to do instead of maybe doing some introspection on your internal misogyny and racism :)#and then to overcompensate others will make Gwen in a way that she was never in love with Arthur and such#this is coming from someone who ships merthur btw:#please please PLEASE stop treating gwen as if she doesn’t exist in your fics or just hands Arthur over the Merlin#tho many of those fics i read are a lot older so idk how prevalent they are in current ones but my point still stands#there’s a way to ship merthur AND not treat Gwen like shit#it’s not that hard tbh#got a lot of mutuals who love her and ship merthur so :/ i don’t understand why some ppl can’t#like dw anon i know all about the Gwen discourse and it looks like none of the conversation has changed since the beginning#which honestly sucks bc this show’s been over for more than ten years now#but yeah! this is precisely why i don’t touch that discourse bc it’s just full of misogynoir and i just block ppl like that#asks#bbc merlin discourse#this btw isn’t merthur bashing bc i do ship it and to be fucking honest you can uplift Gwen w/o bashing merthur#and vice versa bc wasn’t that the criticism of merthur fans who bash Gwen? bc you can uplift merthur w/o bashing on her#anyway
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Makes me sick that rather than sympathize with Francesca. Those foolish and insecure black women really act like we should only uplift darkskin model types or eurocentric light skins/biracial looking black women. To them the only way for black woman to exist in media—because god forbid black women do anything as individuals, no it’s always up to us to represent the entire race—is if we’re extraordinary beauties without reproach. And it’s crazy making because these same people will advocate for the representation for dark skin unambiguous black women on screen and in media but then throw fits when she isn’t ryan destiny or some extraordinarily beautiful model. As if they themselves aren’t regular looking black women! like what happened to representation? Plus they act like being on their ‘best behaviour’ and shitting on themselves and the community is going to get them somewhere with these racists when the reality is that the racists have zero points and are demons from hell who hate everything to do with blackness and want us to feel shame and hatred for our very existence. Being a massive coon isn’t going to get them to like you because in the grand scheme of things they might kill you last but they’ll still kill you is the point. It’s so disgusting because seemingly socially aware black women are part of the ones cooning out and projecting their insecurities on a girl who looks like 90% of black women around the world. They’re pathetic and I can’t believe we went from that whole black girl magic era to this. Normal black girls being bullied worldwide for daring to exist. This whole thing and the fact that it’s gone on so long has really hurt me and I can’t even imagine what the actress is going through. Especially since a good chunk of the racists will never see the show but just want to comment on her looks. Kudos on her for not quitting (side eying her costar because it’s one thing not to say something but another to leave up thousands of racially motivated hate comments against ur costar on your account but it’s not like he defended his own mixed gf so he’s trash anyway) but it’s still so rough. Getting it from all sides especially the ones who look like you is so demoralizing and I know a lot of black women in the industry are standing up for her but still. I would be beside myself.
I believe this is a failing on the natural hair movement because featurism and texturism reigned supreme. Women are talking about natural hair makes you look childish- what!?!
#it’s funny because some of them are now complaining about the Sudanese models#very crabs in a barrel mentality#I was reading some of the discourse and apparently Tom didn’t really defend Zendaya publicly either so idk I can’t remember#and they ran lipgloss off of tiktok and she was promoting true natural hair appreciation#sigh I hope young black women aren’t internalizing this but I now they are sigh#misogynoir
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Recently I’ve begun reading Frantz Fanon and found his theory on gender related to race in Black Skin, White Masks (1952) to be disturbing.
He has two chapters in the book I will focus on, one titled “The Woman of Color and the White Man,” the second “The Man of Color and the White Woman.” It should be noted, he does almost exclusively focus on the relations between the black people of Martinique/Antilles and their French colonizers.
“The Woman of Color and the White Man” is extremely prescriptive and critical of black women for their apparent attraction to white men. His point of reference for this is Mayotte Capécia’s I Am a Martinican Woman (1948). Capécia’s work is rampant with colorism and has been widely criticized for its descriptions of internalized black inferiority.
Fanon would describe that “It is commonplace in Martinique to dream of whitening oneself magically as a way of salvation,” and claims that “a lot of girls from Martinique, students in France, [...] confess in lily-white innocence that they would never marry a black man.” Fanon speaks of black women as though they are children, writing in a patronizing tone, “[black Martinican women] too one day will realize that ‘white men don’t marry black women.’” He writes with a tone which conveys that black women are not capable of being attractive. On top of this, his belief seems to be that black women only have one real job, “to whiten the race.”
Fanon is insecure in his manhood and believes he cannot be a complete man as a white man is capable of.
In “The Man of Color and the White Woman,” the descriptions of the black men are far less judgemental. He writes, “between these white breasts that my wandering hands fondle, white civilization and worthiness become mine.” Even if we focused on less sexual descriptions (there are several within the chapter), Fanon wrote, “By loving me, [a white woman] proves to me that I am worthy of white love. I am loved like a white man.”
It is evident that Fanon views women as tools, but their worth differs depending on their race. He claims this is not unique, later in the chapter explaining that “with Antillean men we learned that their main preoccupation on setting foot in France was to sleep with a white woman. [...] this ritual of initiation into ‘authentic’ manhood.”
Black women have the purpose of procreation according to Fanon, while white women have the purpose of sexual pleasure. A black woman cannot be sexually enjoyed, and a white woman cannot mother his children.
#frantz fanon#race theory#gender theory#race and gender#race and ethnicity#Martinican history#french history#antillean history#sexism#internalized sexism#internalized racism#objectification#stop objectifying women#misogyny#misogynoir#internalized misogyny#misogynistic#cultural misogyny#predjudice#women's liberation#womens studies#womens rights#female exploitation#radfem#radical feminist#radical feminism#libfem#liberal feminism#liberal feminist#intersectionality
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This Arab is Queer: My intersectionality was my biggest bully
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unironically now that i am into season 17 of greys anatomy like ppl are just haters like shonda is doing things
#the improvements the drama and messiness mixed w legit points#like it doesnt always hit but holy shit no it like HITS#like esp compared to recent big show creators like what the euphoria guy is p notable and we see how awful that shit is#between streaming killing everything by s3 and white dudes like yall wanna shit on Shonda for....#being a flawed human being but creating legitimately entertaining work that sometimes tries to do right?#girl by the misogynoir#especially the internalized misogynoir cuz im ngl a lot of crits i hear come from other bw and its like#🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 like theres a whole -ish genre made by some fucking colorist freak#and we're shitting on Shonda
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would i be wrong to say i’m still upset abt yesterday
#like there’s smth internally wrong if you as a Black woman want a Black woman character to suck it up for white men characters#there’s some internalized misogynoir wrapped up in there#31 years old acting like that btw
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‘female solidarity’
why do this specific group of black-male-obsessed white women have an throbbing hate boner for black women existing? for reference, these are unprovoked comments on a hair video.
you win, Jessica. congrats. white women are more desirable in America. do you want a gold sticker, too?
i just hope it’s worth it. leave black women out of your mess please, othello and desdemona.
#weirdos on YouTube having a normal one#misogynoir#internalized misogyny#misogyny#racism#racist women being the weakest links as usual#nobody loves black women but black women#protect black women#because there are crazies out there#the Junior versions of Jessica made my life hell growing up
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The reason y’all are so confused and baffled by fannita is that you still refuse to acknowledge how bad fatphobia is
#but to clarify#I don’t agree with her like she’s got a lot of internalized shit going on#but ppl saying they’re surprised she used to hold her tongue#or she didn’t realize she was also black or whatever#like no y’all treat fat people like shit and she clocked it#she wants to continue that cycle whilst also getting back at the ppl who benefited from it before her#the reason it seems so extreme and out there to you is bc u don’t understand how bad it was#like so many ppl saying ‘yes she was bullied but’#hold on right there#how much do you know about the bullying#bc the next words outta ur mouth are about to be some stupid common sense shit lmao#for example that person that was like nobody hated u bc u were fat it was the tarte tripe#fuck the tarte trip but also….can we be serious for 5 seconds?#don’t get me started on ppl using HER internalized racism to showcase their own to own her or some shit#like no I don’t think saying a darkskinned woman is on cocaine and would shoot up a school if she was white is correct to say actually#matter of fact that feels like some shit SHE would say#if that doesn’t explain it for you idk what will#like idk i feel like the reason there’s no productive convos on this is bc y’all still see her as a fat black Woman so y’all will still#treat her like shit and she KNOWS that - that’s what’s pissing her off sm#bc let’s be so so real rn#if some skinny lightskin was doing all this? cancelled for a week then it’s a ‘oh she was being real YALL cant expect’ yadda yadda#like ppl ignoring that there is colorism misogynoir and fatphobia factoring into how she’s treated bc it’s coming outta HER mouth is crazy#Like yes her problem is that she doesn’t get to be a shitty person bc of how she looks#and y’all are saying her looks have nothing to do with it she’s just a bad person#when we quite literally have decades hell entire lifespans of history proving that is not at all the cass#the way she looks didn’t change her public perception and y’all are tryna gaslight her and us by saying that perception never existed when#it’s that perception that made her want to change#and craziest part for her is that the audience she curates doesn’t tolerate that behavior bc due to that perception the ppl who feel safe#and accepted by her and her content are ppl like her- or at least like how she’s perceived#it’s like when ppl were surprised ppl didn’t fw Lizzo so quickly. like yeah the ppl she attracts don’t tolerate that behavior duh.
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Before we get into this, we want to note that the focus of discussing who suffers from transmisogyny should still be on trans gals, and that the components of misogyny and racism involved all are bioessentialisms:
The framework for 'everyone is effected by transmisogyny' is not just about misgendering people who aren't trans women and it's unfortunate that its how people understand it. It's about the bioessentialist assumptions, stigma, othering, alienation, ridicule, and hatred that comes with being perceived as a trans woman. When cis women are called trans women for having too many muscles and bullied because of that or having deep voices or having hair or too broad a shape or too fat or flatchested etc etc. Butch lesbians across the gender spectrum get hit hard by this, but femmes can be too if they aren't seen as performing properly. Trans men can also experience this if for some reason bigots perceive them as e.g. effeminate or various transphobic terms we'd rather not say, and proceed to bully them for that rather than for being a trans men. People who are AMAB who are cis men or don't know if they're trans yet can get bullied in the same way, for stepping out of line with performing what is expected of a man due to imperial patriarchic norms. Literally anything, can personally speak to that as a trans xeno gal. Mileage on any of this may vary as a nonbinary person because..
Intersex people can tell you that all or at least nearly forms of transphobia are interchangeable for different trans groups because they get treated differently based on how they are perceived or what the associated biases are for different groups depending on the person perceiving.
I'm sorry that the people who tell you people other transfemmes can experience transmisogny don't know this goes beyond misgendering thosse cases but like, I think they probably meant this. the statement "trans-misogyny effects everyone" is supposed to be a unifying banner also in solidarity to us transfemmes because of the endless iteration of angles to hate us are and how unhinged from reality those get and end up targeting everyone who seems like us. like cis women who aren't seen as woman enough getting bullied for going to women's bathrooms. like Black and Brown cis women who because of racist stereotypes of what beauty and femininity are are not seen as woman enough (so it's also hell for Black and Brown transfemmes). so please understand, when 'transmisogyny effects everyone' is said, its not supposed to be about taking from us (also supposed ontology about gender is shit and essentializing, gender is assemblage its aesthetics both collective and individual), its about recognizing how under attack we are and that that is a basis for policing everyone who seems like us, it is supposed to be about including us.
here's a good definition of how it effects people besides us in a significant portion of the gender expansive community, and you can literally look up the stuff we described re cis women including hate on athletes
A constant thing I run into with the "actually everyone is a victim of transmisogyny" crowd is this vague argument of "what if a tme person is confused for a trans woman" and I'm like. Well that's misgendering. Transphobia likely. Kinda depends the situation, but what exactly happened in the situation that makes it transmisogyny? "They think they're a trans woman" again, that's just misgendering. And it becomes this loop. They can never tell me what specifically in the interaction was transmisogyny. "I get mistaken as a trans woman all the time!" Ok but what are they saying? What are they doing? Misgendering alone isn't transmisogyny. Just being perceived as a trans woman in a scenario doesn't mean transmisogyny is happening. It doesn't overwrite who you are. I used to get mistaken as a trans man on this site pretty often back in the day, am I suddenly not a trans woman? Of course not. So why would such a thing change your interaction with transmisogyny? What are you claiming to experience?
#transmisogyny#transphobia#cw transphobia#racism#misogyny#misogynoir#transmisogynoir#trans solidarity#gender solidarity#like i dont know how to say that we're being used as an excuse to assault everyone's rights#its bad#like#reactionary media due to living in an international patriarchic system fixates heavily on hating trans women now that people 'know' bout us#and this fear and hatred does target people who arent us
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Happy International Women’s Day. Reminder that this day emerged out of labour organising and it’s not about celebrating girlbosses or any whitewashed corporate feminism. It’s about equal pay for equal work, full bodily autonomy, the liberation of queer and trans women, sex work decrim, fairly shared domestic labour, global decolonisation, fighting misogynoir, an end to sexual harassment and rape culture, a society that actually supports those trying to raise children, fair representation of women across all sectors and positions in society, media and stories that don’t cast women as passive and useless. Reminder that patriarchy is inextricably linked with the forces currently wreaking such destruction on nature and the environment, that a green future is a feminist future and a feminist future is a green future. From Greta Thunberg to Leah Namugerwa to Christiana Figueres, Mikaela Loach, Xiye Bastida and Nemonte Nenquimo, women are powerful and important voices across our movement, leading the way and demanding the change we need because they understand that it’s all connected.
#solarpunk#hopepunk#environmentalism#cottagepunk#social justice#community#optimism#bright future#climate justice#tidalpunk#feminism#international women’s day#women#iwd2024
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