#incorrect euripides

[katerinaaqu]

Orestes: Women are so skillful in crafting plans!

Odysseus: *dreamily watching Penelope playing 108 suitors like a feedle*

Odysseus: Yeah...tell me about it, lad!

Penelope: You are the one to talk, my love?

Odysseus: Touchè

[brimo5]

Hades: Orestes just declared he's planning to marry Helen off to me! Persephone: Oh dear, that poor kid——but fortunate us. Hades: I can't just be a vulture circling around that situation! I totally back Apollo on putting a stop to this tragedy. Persephone: You've collected enough souls from Menelaus, right? Hades: You always get me.

[incorrectjaydick]

Dick: I'll take care of you. Jason: It's rotten work. Dick: Not to me. Not if it's you.

[cissa-calls]

Countdown to Coven of Chaos: Day 397

Y/N: “So is witchcraft genetic? Like, if you followed your lineage far enough back would all witches originate as daughters or students of Hecate?”

Agatha: “Not necessarily, there are different births and origins of the witchcraft. Hot stuff over there” *points at Wanda* “wasn’t born a witch, but became one through province - or as a victim of circumstance - depending on how you look at it.”

Wanda, under her breath: “Well Agatha’s a descendent of Medea”

Agatha: “Say that again?”

Y/N: “Oh no”

Wanda: “You heard me. I’d bet the entire Stark company net worth that you’re descended from the Ancient Greek, family murdering sorceress Medea.”

Agatha:…

Agatha: “Alright fair”

[danganronpafakes]

Korekiyo: Who has wronged you? Himiko: You ask me that? Are you brainless? Do you have any brain at all?

Source: Euripides (“Iphigenia in Aulis”, translation by Paul Roche)

[firnen-the-teragram-teabag]

[astrothii]

the real tragedy of euripides’ andromache is realizing that it’s less about andromache and more anti-spartan propaganda 😔

[swan2swan]

But about how last month in English class we studied a few Greek tragedies. Like Oedipus Rex. Written by a guy with an equally unpronounceable name.

It’s “Sophocles”, Rachel. Come on.

[nyxshadowhawk]

Dionysos: …Wanna dress in drag?

Pentheus: HELL YES!

Pentheus, to Dionysos : wow, ok, so you're really hot

Pentheus: to girls I mean

Pentheus: girls think you're hot

Pentheus: not me

Pentheus: because that would be gay

Pentheus: and I'm not gay

Dionysos:

Pentheus: can I hold your hands they look really soft

Dionysos: *holds out hands*

Pentheus: HAHA they ARE really soft you DWEEB

Pentheus: you and your stupid soft hands and your soft curly hair and your dumb beautiful face are... are here... to... uh... to seduce all our women right

Dionysos:

Pentheus: well good luck with that, because it sure isn't working on me, a man who is straight and not at all attracted to you in this interaction! hah!

Dionysos:

Pentheus:

Pentheus: guards a little help please

[corvid-ghost]

Ok so I'm trying to collect every piece of the epic cycle/ things that have to so with the Trojan war/ the characters, and thos what I have so far

Aethiopis - Arctinus of Miletus

Achilleid - Statius

Aeneid - Virgil

Ajax - Sophocles

Alcmeonis - don't know

Andromache - Euripides

Bibliotheca - Pseudo-Apollodrus

Carmina Illiaca/AnteHomerica - John Tzetez

Cyclops - Euripides

Cypria - Stasinus

*De Raptu Hellene - Draconthius

Descriptions of Greece - Pausania

Ehoiai - Hesiod

Electra - Europides

Electra - Sophocles

Epigoni - Homer(?) Antimachus of Teos(?)

Fabulae - Hyginus

Fragment 14 - Sappho

Fragment 44 - Sappho

Harpage Hellenes - Colothus

Hecuba - Europides

Helen - Europides

Heroicus - Philostratus

Homerica - John Tzetez

Iliad - Homer

Iliou Persis - Arctinus of Miletus

Iphigenia - Euripides

Iphigenia Among the Tauri - Euripides

Iphigenia in Aulis - Europides

Little Iliad - Lesches of Lesbos

Metamorphoses - Ovid

Mythographus Homericus - we don't know

Nostoi - Agias of Troizen

Odyssey - Homer

Oedipodea - Cinaethon of Sparta

Oresteia (trilogy) - Aeschylus

Orestes - Euripidies

Orestes Tragodeia - Draconthius

Philoctetes - Sophocles

Post-Homerica - John Tzetez

PostHomerica - Quintus Smyrnaeus

Rawlinson Excidium Troie -

Telegony - Eugammon of Cyrene

Trojan Women - Euripides

Tryphodorus the Taking of Illios - Epyllion

Thebaid - Homer (?)

Thebiad - Stesichorus

Tzetez Theogeny -

Vatican mythographer one -

If any of this is incorrect lmk or if there's any other you know too

[thevampiremarie]

So I can’t find this reply to my post anymore so let me set the record straight. The statement that “Morpheus was the Ancient Greek god of dreams, god son of Hypnos, and was actively worshipped in Ancient Greece” is FACTUALLY INCORRECT.

The VERY first mention of “Morpheus, the god of dreams”, IN HISTORICAL RECORD, appears in the work Metamorphoses by Roman poet Ovid. Metamorphoses, a Latin language epic poem, was composed in the year 8 CE, in Ancient Rome during the Ancient Roman period.

In Ovid’s text, Morpheus is actually the son of Somnus, not the “god son” of Hypnos. Hypnos was an Ancient Greek deity, Somnus was an Ancient Roman deity.

Hypnos’s name literally means “sleep” in Ancient Greek. There WERE Ancient Greek dream spirits, referenced by Homer in the Iliad (composed in about 8th century BCE, so 800 years before Ovid) as dream messengers from Zeus to Agamemnon. They were called the Oneiroi. Oneiroi translates from Ancient Greek to English as “dream”. While Homer does not list the genealogy of the Oneiroi, Hesiod does in his poem Theogony (composed in 730-700 BCE, so even older than the Iliad by about a century). In Theogony, which is one of the definitive ancient sources we have on the Ancient Greek pantheon, Hesiod states that the Oneiroi are sons of Nyx, with no father, and are brothers to Hypnos.

Morpheus in Ancient Greek would translate to “fashioner”, not “sleep” or “dream”, both words that existed in Ancient Greek already.

Edward Tripp, author of the book Cromwell’s Handbook of Classical Mythology (1970), calls the three brothers Morpheus, Phobetor, and Phantasos, from Ovid’s Metamorphoses, “literary, not mythical concepts”.

Firstly, I am an actual classicist. I have studied Ancient Greek mythology in university. I have read Theogony. I own a translation of that and one of Hesiod’s other works, Works and Days. I have multiple translations of the Iliad and the Odyssey. I have multiple translations of plays by Sophocles, Euripides, and Aeschylus. I am a reconstructionist Hellenic polytheist, a contemporary, community member, and friend to some of the foremost learned individuals in our religious community.

I have also read Metamorphoses by Ovid. You can attempt to debate with me a variety of things regarding history but this is actually something you can’t debate or argue because there is very well documented history. In fact, I would love it if you would google it yourself because I believe you will refuse to believe me. Please do NOT believe everything you read on Wikipedia or Tumblr or watch on Tiktok as an authoritative and accurate source on ANY HISTORY, much less the history of various ancient civilizations and their religious pantheons and practices.

[lizziestudieshistory]

Ten Most Read Authors

I was tagged by the lovely @dauen! Thank you!

What are your ten most most read authors? And how many books have you read by them? Also tag someone who you would like to do this!

Instructions: scroll to the bottom of your goodreads shelves and most read authors is listed underneath.

Note: my Goodreads is woefully neglected and hasn't accurately represented what I've read for years. As such, I've had to look back through YEARS of journals and my bookshelves, so this might be a bit incorrect due to human error.

Terry Pratchett (36)

Pratchett is the author I expected, I've ALMOST finished Discworld (I'm saving the rest for miserable days) and Pratchett almost warrants his own bookcase never mind shelf!

William Shakespeare (26)

Much like Pratchett I'm not surprised. This includes a lot of the plays, plus the sonnets, The Phoenix and the Turtle, Rape of Lucrece, and A Lover's Complaint. I need to restart my monthly reading of Shakespeare but I fell off because the next one on my list was Merry Wives of Windsor and I LOATHE Falstaff with every fiber of my being...

Brandon Sanderson (19 or 21 depending if you count Wheel of Time)

I'm half in disbelief and half not surprised in the slightest. The worst part of this is that I don't really like Sanderson outside of Stormlight! I NEED to sort out my priorities!

Gail Carriger (18)

I'm surprised I've read so many but Carriger is a FANTASTIC comfort read/fluffy fun author.

Robin Hobb (16)

Another given as I've read the entire Realm of the Elderling, including the novella, except Assassin's Fate because I hated Fitz and the Fool. Still bitter about the last trilogy.

Robert Jordan (14 or 11, depends if you count the Jordan & Sanderson)

I have no explanation for how I finished Wheel of Time but I did and that almost guaranteed Jordan a place on this list.

J.R.R. Tolkien/Tolkien and Christopher Tolkien (14)

If we counted rereads I think Tolkien would win by a mile 😅 however, this counts the 5 main works, the 3 great tales, unfinished tales, and a handful of his other works.

Euripides (11 plays and a lot of fragments)

I'm in shock however I did read A LOT of Euripides for an ancient Greek module in my 3rd year at undergrad.

Rick Riordan (11)

Percy Jackson as a teenager 🤷‍♀️

George R.R. Martin (7 or 9)

This slot could've been filled by SO MANY authors, particularly classic authors, I've read 7 books by... Austen, Dickens, Trollope, Wilde, etc. However, I chose Martin because of how many times I've reread his books and we can technically split A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms into 3 novellas to say I've read 9 books instead of 7.

This was very interesting! And surprising how this list compares to my top 10 authors. There's not THAT much cross over! Some of that is because those authors just haven't written as much but for others it's just my own reading habits.

I'm tagging @oneardentstudybuddy, @dooareyastudy, and anyone else who feels like doing this.

[murmurillo]

I have literally just finished reading that Euripides play and this comes up?? time for INCORRECT MYTH RETELLINGS lmao

so basically, apollo angered zeus who made him a servant of king admetus as a punishment (this is not ‘alcestis’ yet, more like a prequel to it). but our god of light was just a chill guy who didn’t mind herding sheep, plus admetus was nice to him, so apollo fell in love.

he became a secret ‘god in disguise’ protector for admetus. in a myth separate from ‘alcestis’, baby hermes (who was born like a year ago and felt particularly mischievous) stole admetus’s herds. apollo found him and said, ‘wtf little dude, give me my sheep back’. hermes played innocent (‘who, I? look at me, I am TINY, I can’t steal anything being this SMALL’).

but apollo took hermes to zeus who saw through his little lies and told him to stop messing around. they headed back to retrieve the herd; baby hermes got bored, made a lyre out of a turtle shell and started playing. apollo got absolutely enchanted and traded the herd for this lyre, also becoming hermes’s best friend forever.

and admetus? apparently, he loved apollo too, so he didn’t mind.

this explains apollo’s later intervention in ‘alcestis’. apollo helped admetus marry alcestis, but was accidentally rude to artemis in the process so she tried to kill the king. admetus managed to escape death (thanatos: 0, everybody: 1), but now someone had to agree to die in his stead.

he rushed to his elderly parents (weak), but they told him ‘what do you MEAN we’re already old anyway? what a fucked up son you are. we aren’t descending to hades for you, get out of our house’.

alcestis, on the other hand, was super loyal to her husband, and volunteered to die so he could live.

thanatos comes to get her, and apollo (who fucked up in the first place and was now actively trying to fix it) begs him to leave. but thanatos says ‘yeah no, please step aside’, to which apollo clenches his fists ‘okay then, trickery it is’.

death takes alcestis, but gets his ass physically kicked by heracles (a friend of both apollo and admetus) who literally snatches the woman’s soul from under his nose. thanatos: 0, everybody: 2.

and they lived happily ever after, and apollo continued being a chill guy. unless you thought you were better at lyre-playing, of course. in that case, he would literally skin you. (poor marsyas.)

and thanatos, who was just doing his job, suffered because of it once more. it’s super funny, because even euripides describes him as an impartial force who wishes no evil but merely delivers the inevitable. yet he is the one with ‘greedy teeth’ and a scapegoat.

man, he doesn’t even choose who has to die. please be kind to death. his job sucks.

not sure if your aware of this one already

but i found a very interesting myth involving Thanatos while scrolling through Theoi.com

so in essence Thanatos is first delayed by a debate with Apollo from collecting the soul of this woman named Alcestis so that she may end up living a long life

(unsure why Apollo is intervening so strongly here? but i think it has something to do with her maybe being fated to marry someone important later in life?)

Then Thanatos is delayed from his duties a second time when Heracles guarding Alcestis’s tomb and wrestles with him until he is forced to turn away

pretty much sure this is part of a large myth from the Euripides, but man Thanatos can’t catch a break

Oh! No, I didn't know that. I've tried finding stuff for Thanatos and it felt like the only thing I found was the whole King Sisyphus incident. That all sounds pretty hilarious. The poor guy is just trying to go to work and everybody is trying to distract him. By the time his shift is over, he's just like:

Thanatos: Ares, man, your brothers are annoying the crap out of me.

Ares: Saaaame.

Thanatos: I didn't even say what they did. Or which brothers I was talking about.

Ares: It doesn't matter.

[incorrect-supercorp]

Kara: I’ll take care of you.

Lena: It’s rotten work.

Kara: Not to me. Not if it’s you.

[hersweetrevenge]

Aphrodite: I saw you hanging out with Artemis yesterday

Hippolytus: A-Aphrodite! It's not what you think!

Aphrodite: I won't hesitate, bitch

*curses your stepmother*

[nysus-temple]

Jason: Can't you just shut up for once?

Medea: I like how my own voice sounds and I am not apologizing for that.