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that w.wdits clip where colin is trying to drain joh.n sl.attery but it isn't working bc john keeps on being fascinated by colin's specific regional accent and going on tangents about accents and dialects. just like me fr
#‘ a rambling mess ‘ - ooc.#genuinely i love languages and dialects and accents so much#started happy stimming today watching a video essay on the germanic language family because they got a guy to reconstruct a sentence#in proto-germanic#which is!!! so fucking cool to me!!!!! we are able to reconstruct languages that we have never heard that were never written down#that have been dead for centuries!!!! fuck!!!!!!!#languages and language families and historical linguistics make my brain go wooOO#anyways!! i am doing a bit of classwork but i will be on here in a bit <3
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Wool & lana
The word lana (wool) in languages such as Spanish is etymologically related to English wool. For words to be related, they don't have to look like each other. Instead, you have to be able to trace them back to the same ancestor through regular sound changes - and that's what linguists managed to do with wool and lana. The infographic shows the Germanic and Romance family trees of these words.
#historical linguistics#linguistics#language#etymology#english#latin#french#dutch#german#spanish#proto-indo-european#proto-italic#proto-germanic#gothic#norwegian#swedish#old norse#danish#icelandic#catalan#portuguese#italian#romanian#low saxon#frisian#lingblr
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Silly old men BCE.
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Mr. Germania speaks Proto-Germanic, here written in the Elder Futhark runic alphabet:
ᚱᚢᛗᛟᚾᛁᛉᚺᚢᚱᚾᚢᚾᚷᚨᛉ = *rūmōniz *hurnungaz = "roman bastard"
(I translated it myself and can't really verify how accurate it is so keep this in mind)
The classical Latin alphabet didn't have the letters J, U and W so I often represent Grandpa Rome's speech bubbles without them.
I'll let the scene which inspired this piece explain the Latin bit lmao
#hetalia#hetalia fanart#hws rome#hws roman empire#ancientalia#hws germania#gerrome#latin language#proto germanic#my art#welcome to my dead languages obsession
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Chameleon Protogen
Chibi version for the sold adopt
Original here!
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the proto slavic word for 'bread' *xlěbъ traces back to the proto germanic word for 'bread' *hlaibaz??????????????????
#. BLEW MY MIND#. apparently it's unclear which germanic language it was borrowed from but possibly it was gothic or old high german#etymology#proto slavic#proto germanic#l#r.txt
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Is it Tsubarov or Tubarov?
So, this one is funny. As you can see above, the wiki has adopted the latter spelling, which originates from the translation of Glory of Losers and Frozen Teardrop by Zeonic Scanslations. It's also where "Bilmon" first popped up as a last name for the guy, by the by. If you look at the katakana, it spells tsu-ba-ro-fu, but as anyone who has learned the Japanese alphabet knows, there is no tu, so tsu is usually used in its place. Just like there is no si, only a shi, which leads to all the "city boy" humor. Meaning, a translator might find themselves pondering if they should go with tu or tsu in a name, especially if it's a made up one. And in this case, the translator decided to go with tu because he probably felt "Tubarov" sounded more correct. This is Gundam Wing though.
From the Gundam Wing Perfect Archive Series, p. 189. Tsubarov's name is supposed to be derived from the German word for 12, zwölf. The z in German is always a "ts" sound, so "Tsubarov" is actually the correct spelling. And before anyone thinks to themselves "well, why didn't they just go with the number then?" That's because the very first translators wanted to be phonetically close and anyone trying to pronounce zwölf who doesn't speak flawless German would probably end up saying some form of "ze-wolf" which doesn't even come close. The American dub had troubles pronouncing Hilde, for crying out loud. Like that's a hard name. So Tsubarov it is, just like it is Noin and not Neun. But. And here comes the funny part, which is just a euphemism for me having had to take linguistics, so now you all get to suffer through it with me. "Two" in German is "zwei". Depending on the region or if you watch Star Wars, you'll hear it pronounced "zwo", too, though. R2D2 is the most famous example. It also used to happen a lot on the telephone when people spelled telephone numbers or the number of a bank account etc. so that it doesn't get mixed up with 3, "drei". "Two" and "zwo" have the same root, the Proto-Germanic "twō". The difference is that English stopped pronouncing the w and German had a sound shift known as the High German consonant shift, where a lot of Proto-Germanic "t" sounds changed into "ts" which is how the letter z is pronounced in German. So, tomato, tomahto, or in this case, Tubarov, Tsubarov. It's amusing how a language on the other side of the globe lacking a tu ended up reverse sound shifting a name derived from a German word because a fan thought it'd sound better that way. What are the odds.
#gundam wing#meta#by the way#if we go back further the mother of all words two is the Proto-Indo-European dwo or duwo#which in Proto-Germanic morphed into aforementioned twō#while Latin kept the d and dropped the w resulting in duo#which then morphed into dos due deux etc#which obviously means one thing#Duo and Tsubarov are related
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Finnish words by unusual language of origin
*note: this does not list all the languages that the word was borrowed from, only the oldest known origin of it
*also: if you've never seen a word on this list, please don't doxx me. These are all real words. I don't spread misinformation. Why do I still need to put this in my posts
Job: Ammatti (from proto-celtic *ambaxtos) Fun Fact: this is the same root that forms the english word “Ambassador”!
Wagon: Kärry (from proto-celtic *karros) Fun Fact: This is the root that forms the English word “Car”!
Poem: Runo (from proto-celtic *rūnā) Fun Fact: This is the root that forms the English word “Rune”!
Hikikomori: Hikky (from Japanese hikikomori 引き籠もり)
Clam: Simpukka (from Mandarin zhēnzhū 珍珠)
Goods: Tavara (from proto-turkic *tabar) Fun Fact: words descended from this root can be found as far as China and Siberia!
Dungeon, jail: Tyrmä (from proto-turkic *türmä) Fun Fact: This toot extends to Azerbaijan and even Yiddish!
Rauma (city name) (from proto germanic *straumaz meaning stream)
Cherry: Kirsikka (from ancient creek kerasós κερασός which might also have older forms) Fun Fact: this word is widespread, even appearing in Arabic.
God: Jumala (possibly from proto-indo-iranian) Fun Fact: This word could be related to Sanskrit dyumna द्युम्न if it is from proto-indo-iranian
#finnish#langblr#langblog#language#study blog#suomen kieli#finnish language#finnish langblr#word roots#proto-celtic#proto-turkic#germanic#celtic#indo-iranian
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*gno-
*gnō-, Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to know."
It forms all or part of: acknowledge; acquaint; agnostic; anagnorisis; astrognosy; can (v.1) "have power to, be able;" cognition; cognizance; con (n.2) "study;" connoisseur; could; couth; cunning; diagnosis; ennoble; gnome; (n.2) "short, pithy statement of general truth;" gnomic; gnomon; gnosis; gnostic; Gnostic; ignoble; ignorant; ignore; incognito; ken (n.1) "cognizance, intellectual view;" kenning; kith; know; knowledge; narrate; narration; nobility; noble; notice; notify; notion; notorious; physiognomy; prognosis; quaint; recognize; reconnaissance; reconnoiter; uncouth; Zend.
It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit jna- "know;" Avestan zainti- "knowledge," Old Persian xšnasatiy "he shall know;" Old Church Slavonic znati "recognizes," Russian znat "to know;" Latin gnoscere "get to know," nobilis "known, famous, noble;" Greek gignōskein "to know," gnōtos "known," gnōsis "knowledge, inquiry;" Old Irish gnath "known;" German kennen "to know," Gothic kannjan "to make known."
—Etymonline
#etymology#knowing#knowledge#know#language#linguistics#Proto-Indo-European#Sanskrit#Persian#Latin#Greek#Irish#German#quote#gnosis
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Light vs. light
Light ('not heavy') as in a light load stems from a different word than light ('bright') as in a light room. Due to regular historical sound changes, they happened to converge, which already happened in Old English. In German, these words are still different: leicht vs. licht. Click the infographic to see the journeys these words made.
#historical linguistics#linguistics#language#etymology#english#latin#dutch#german#icelandic#old norse#gothic#danish#swedish#norwegian#low saxon#frisian#proto-germanic#proto-west germanic
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Daily Etymology #156
Spiel
Spiel was borrowed from the German spiel or the Yiddish shpil, meaning game or performance. Both came from the Old High German spil, from the Proto Germanic *spil, meaning game or dance, which is of uncertain etymology.
* Indicates a reconstructed word
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(I am physically disabled and reclaim the word cripple, so I will use it in this post uncensored. Feel free to enjoy the post and add on to it regardless but don't throw the word around as if it isn't a slur, please)
thinking abt how the word cripple is literally so old, as an insult/slur, that it has an old norse language counterpart that is almost identical (kryppill)
so conceivably, even with a language barrier, some asshole asgardian could call theo that in old norse and he would recognise it. or loki would recognise it on earth and be livid. idk it's kinda funny to me that it's that old
#my favorite variant of the word is still the reconstructed proto germanic one#which is... krupilaz apparently#it sounds like a wizard curse#but yeah#lwml#my lwml content#after that last post I needed to be a nerd for a bit abt etymology
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Chameleon Protogen - Adopt Auction
Sb: 80$
Mb: 5$
Ab: -
MORE INFO HERE!
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Deeeeeeeeefinetly not for any upcoming project that I've been working on for 3 months now..... deeeeeefinetly not
#conlang#conlanging#langblr#worldbuilding#historical linguistics#196#proto germanic#youtube#the great migration#tgmp#story#storytelling#storyblr#writing prompt#writing
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writing sw fic in a star wars based conlang I constructed myself to avoid breaking suspension of disbelief by using any words that have connections to earth culture (all of them)
#like unfortunately I know the word ship comes from the old English scip which comes from the proto germanic *skipa#which could very likely come from the proto-indo-european *skei#which means that for me the word spaceship breaks suspension of disbelief#how can you have the word ship in a world with no Pontic-Cassian steppe?#linguistics#star wars
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so I'm trying to add new vocabulary to my Anki but I keep getting DISTRACTED by every Czech word I can't logically derive from my existing knowledge of Slavic languages and this is how I ended up here:
wonder why "art" is called "umění" in Czech - sounds familiar but huh
ohh yeah уметь -> umět haha
wait what's art got to do with "can"/"to be able". I guess you can do art... ok moving on
write down the german translation for "art" in Anki
"Kunst" ..................................................... hold on a sec. "können"?????
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7. mind = blown
#. the wiktionary adventures continue shkdjfshd#. the czech word is ultimately from proto slavic *ũmъ (mind)#. idk man i love that#čumblr#langblr#etymology#german#czech#r.wiki
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#language#languages#family tree#family tree of languages#proto indo european#where language comes from#know your roots#anatolian#celtic#romance#germanic#slavic#indian#iranian#did you know#how cool is that#language is fun#language is beautiful#spoken word#written words#evolution of language#something cool#linguistics#writers on tumblr#writerscommunity#where we came from#i just think they're neat
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