#in defense of TCW Ani
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the-far-bright-center · 1 year ago
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I hesitated to share my thoughts on this because, despite the fact I can be quite critical of TCW at times (mainly for certain uneven tonal and writing choices, and issues I have with specific episodes and dialogue), I am actually in agreement with the final two posters' comments. When I have more time, I want to write a huge separate post regarding why I feel this way, but for now I just have to speak up in agreement. I think the problem is that certain film!Anakin fans are attached to an idea of the character that is not quite...expansive enough to factor in all his various facets. People forget that Anakin was first portrayed not only by the Original Trilogy actors (James Earl Jones, David Prowse, and Sebastian Shaw), but also by Jake Lloyd in TPM. TCW Anakin has a great deal of TPM's little Ani in him, and I personally don't mind that at all. ('Skyguy' can even be seen as a reference to 'my, my this here Anakin guy' from the Weird Al 'The Saga Begins' song.) Please don't mistake me: Hayden's performance in AotC and RotS is iconic. I adore it and I will always staunchly defend his Anakin, who remains my own personal favourite. However, I think some fans misinterpret Hayden Ani and have this idea that PT Anakin is nothing but a perpetual sad-boi who is openly crying all the time. It's simply not the case. It may come across that way since we mainly see him at pivotal moments in AotC and RotS. These are huge turning points in his arc, when all his intense emotions boil over and spill out. But a) he is not like this every moment of the day, and b) he is not supposed to be a static character. Anakin changes greatly between AotC and RotS, that's kind of the point. He grows in capability and confidence (with regards to his own abilities as well as his interpersonal relationships), and in his Force powers, too. It's like people forget that Anakin Skywalker is CANONICALLY an extremely powerful Force user as well as a highly competent starpilot and capable and charismatic general in the Clone Wars. (Ok, sometimes the TCW series makes him seem a tad too buffoonish for comic relief, but we also see moments of his true military daring and brilliance.) The RotS novelisation even portrays him as such. That famous quote about how he is the best there ever was and he knows it. Also that observation Mace makes that Anakin walks and moves and has a 'presence' like the Holonet hero he is. And indeed, the fact Anakin is known as 'The Hero With No Fear' shows that he has a very dashing 'persona' that he is known for publicly but which merely masks the inner turmoil he's experiencing. We see more of that inner turmoil in the films simply because, as the viewers, we are there to observe his private moments with Padme, who is one of the few people he actually expresses his emotional struggles *to*. Traditionally-masculine heroes are supposed to be stoic (not overly emotional) and self-sufficient (not needing to rely on anyone other than themselves). Ironically, this is what the *Jedi* want him to be. And Anakin's tragedy is that he's struggling to fit into the Old Order's mold and adhere to it....when in reality it's not what he needs. He needs the space and permission to openly feel and express his intense emotions before they overwhelm him. Likewise, he is repeatedly shown to desperately need the presence of his loved ones around him in order to hold onto the best parts of himself. A male character being portrayed as *needing* others at all in the first place is the very first sign that he's not just some male power fantasy.
All in all, the idea that TCW Anakin is solely reduced to a 'macho' ideal is not accurate. I still see him very similarly to film!Anakin: as a commentary on how attempting to mold a loving young boy into an obedient slave Jedi weapon of war will ultimately backfire when that young man is eventually consumed and enslaved once more by the very darkness he was fighting. While the literal shedding of his tears may not be shown on-screen during the TCW series, the intensity of his emotion is. The desperation he feels to hold onto his loved ones at all costs absolutely comes across. And, like film Anakin, I would argue that TCW Anakin is portrayed, not as aspirational, but as a pathetic figure. (‘Pathetic’ as in the word pathos.) The sheer amount of times he is tortured and tormented on screen, shown to have various flaws and vulnerabilities, and the amount of times the audience is repeatedly reminded that he will eventually meet a tragic fate, all attest to that. The point of the Clone Wars series is to illustrate the famous line that Yoda speaks in the Original Trilogy: 'Wars not make one great.'
*grabs megaphone* MOVIE ANAKIN IS A COMPLEX, EMOTIONALLY VULNERABLE CHARACTER WHO FREELY CRIES AND SHOWS EMOTION, THE TYPE OF MALE CHARACTER WHO IS MUCH TOO RARE IN MEDIA. TCW ANAKIN IS THE MALE POWER FANTASY FANBOYS EXPECTED YOUNG DARTH VADER TO BE AND THREW A HISSY FIT WHEN THEY DIDN’T GET IT IN THE MOVIES.
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the-far-bright-center · 2 months ago
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The weird feeling of being a longtime fan and realising that my own views of Anakin and Padme don’t seem to align with hardly anyone else’s these days… not even the current pro-Anidala side of tumblr fandom.
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antianakin · 5 months ago
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Regarding Codywan; which one of the pair do you think would be more likely to fail at self-care, forcing the other to get them into bed, insist they take a break from the planning table and so on?
Cody. 1000% Cody.
For one, Cody is simply younger than Obi-Wan and so is going to have less experience in general, but he's also led an IMMENSELY sheltered life that was full of lots of strict routines that didn't allow him to do much of anything beyond what the Kaminoans allowed him to do. And there is no indication that one of those things the clones were taught was good mental health practices. In fact, you could argue that we have evidence they were explicitly NOT taught mental health practices since I think they tell us in TCW that the clones were told they'd had regular stress somehow engineered out of them. If the Kaminoans believed that, then presumably they wouldn't have felt the need to teach the clones how to effectively HANDLE stress beyond just... pushing through it to complete the objective/mission.
Cody is an incredibly competent person who seems to be pretty steady in a crisis, for sure, but I think he's primarily steady IN SPECIFIC SITUATIONS, all of which relate to battles and war and dealing with authorities. Take him out of that situation and he's probably going to struggle a little more with understanding the parameters of what's expected of him. He'd pick that kind of thing up VERY quickly, but it seems like something all of the clones would have to learn after leaving Kamino. Basic things like how to go shopping or going out to eat, even going to a club and the expectations for the social interactions in those places is going to have a learning curve.
I also think that the clones are probably going to be fairly good at managing physical health because maintaining their ability to do their jobs in that way would likely be something the Kaminoans would have kept in mind, but managing their emotional and mental health would be something entirely new. Like I said, they have been led to believe they don't experience stress and all of its related problems, so understanding what they feel and the best ways to handle it are going to be completely beyond them.
And this is where the Jedi can come in. They're literally intergalactic therapists, this is their bread and butter. Helping the clones understand what they're feeling and how to best manage what's happening to them would likely be one of the first building blocks of trust between the two groups. But there's obviously one Jedi among potentially THOUSANDS of troopers, so they probably start by passing along advice to a few of the higher ranked troopers and hope that it trickles down through the other men. And this could easily lead to some bonding between Obi-Wan and Cody, with Obi-Wan recognizing when Cody is pushing himself too far for too long and learning his tells for when he's tired but can go a little longer vs when he's basically dead on his feet and SHOULDN'T go any longer, or when he's in a mood to listen to advice from someone about getting rest vs when he's in a mental place where that's just not going to be taken well and might actually cause Cody to push himself even harder.
I'll also point out that, despite popular fandom characterization, Obi-Wan really doesn't show any inclination to push himself beyond what he can handle in canon. In what I think is season one of TCW, there's a moment somewhere between Obi-Wan and Anakin where Obi-Wan asks ANAKIN if he's slept and can tell that Anakin hasn't, implying that Obi-Wan probably HAS slept despite the stress of the situation. And then there's Landing at Point Rain where Obi-Wan gets badly injured and proceeds to sit through the majority of the battle. He only gets up ONCE, when it seems like their defenses are about to be broken and he has absolutely no other choice but to fight, and then as soon as reinforcements arrive he immediately sits back down again and STAYS seated even through Anakin and Ahsoka arriving, their mission debrief, and being treated by a medic. Everyone else literally has to gather around him because he refuses to move from his seated position. He never tries to get up and fight when he doesn't have to nor does he seem to avoid or refuse medical aid once it's available. At the end, he keeps leaning on Anakin and Ki-Adi-Mundi as he is led to a ship that will take him away from the field so he can get MORE medical aid and doesn't seem to be refusing that, either.
Even in the context of the films, during the fight with Dooku where he gets badly injured, he stays DOWN after that and lets Anakin handle the fight instead because he knows that trying to get up and keep fighting would just be a distraction. And it isn't that he CAN'T get up, we see him stand up and limp away later, but that there would be very little point in him trying to do so. And he doesn't seem to be trying to hide his injuries after the battle's over, either, he's very obviously limping and holding his arm.
Which isn't to say that Obi-Wan couldn't occasionally choose to pull all nighters if he felt it necessary for one reason or another, or that he would NEVER push himself through pain or exhaustion in certain situations, but I don't think that the fandom characterization of him as someone who can barely take care of himself and constantly hides injuries and avoids medical attention to the point of literally causing himself further harm is consistent with how he's actually shown in canon. We don't ever get to see Cody react to being injured, but given what we know of the clones' upbringing, it just makes more sense to me that Cody would struggle with pushing himself beyond what he SHOULD and with managing his own emotions.
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ebisul · 4 months ago
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Sterile Mandalore and my issues with the New Mandalore we see
I want to preface this by saying a lot of what’s wrong with Mandalore and the Mandalorians is fully Filoni’s fault (among a variety of other people involved) for being a bad storyteller. Also between brain fog, ADHD, and a severe anxiety disorder, I’m brute forcing my way to coherency.
This is in no way a defense of Death Watch or the history of imperialism. I won’t tolerate anyone comparing me to a terrorist organization for not liking the depiction of Mandalore under New Mandalorian rule or any particular Mandalorian Character, yes that has happened before.
As an overview, I will be going over the setting of Mandalore we see visually, a few of the characters and what those characters say about Mandalorian culture visually, as well as briefly touching on the Clones, and finally how each of these contribute to the Mandalore we see in The Clone Wars.
Now I wanted to write this because I actually deeply enjoy the Mandalorians as a culture, I think everything from the language to the armor to the Resol’nare, uncertain if thats canon, is absolutely fascinating. However, what we see in The Clone Wars has next to none of that outside of Death Watch, the terrorist organization.
The Setting of Mandalore
Mandalore the planet is primarily composed of harsh, seemingly uninhabitable deserts created from centuries upon centuries of war. What we do see of the civilization on Mandalore is primarily within the domed capital city of Sundari. Now there are a few things I wanna touch on here, primarily certain locations, such as the schools, the palace, and the overall visuals of the city, and the people, as a whole as well as individuals.
Beginning with the Schools,
We see schools on Mandalore at least twice in TCW, once during the poisonings when we see a cafeteria and once during our stint with Korkie where we see classrooms and dorms, and i have always hated the way they look. I will say that you could very well interpret the Royal Academy of Government to be a sort of military school, though given the New Mandalorians are all about peace and pacifism it would be an odd choice to send your nephew there.
Visually speaking, the schools are beyond dull. In the classroom we see Ahsoka teaching in, the entire room is gray, with nothing but the desks and a projector. Look at the kid in the front row! Thats how I feel looking at this room!! These are presumably either teenagers or young adults at a boarding school. Im not expecting much for a classroom but a dull dark gray, empty room is not conducive to learning.
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I also want to note that they wear uniforms. Its totally normal for a boarding school to require uniforms, that makes sense, however, these uniforms have one singular interesting component and thats the iron heart. I can’t find an exact meaning behind the symbol outside of reddit so im hesitant to define it here, however what we do know is that the symbol is absolutely ancient. A significant part of Mandalorian history.
The rest of the uniform is similarly a dull cool gray, or perhaps a dull blue. And there doesn’t seem to be much individuality in the uniforms, that is outside of hair and whatever gambit-style headwear those kids are wearing at least, but even then they’re mostly all very similar hairstyles.
Im also electing to ignore that there are seemingly two separate sets of triplets here. I know it’s an animation shortcut. Still, they are still there and I can’t ignore them now.
Now, on to what I’m presuming is either a dorm or some sort of recreation or break room, I don’t remember much of the context and frankly you can’t tell from looks alone. I’m leaning toward a dorm because that was my first interpretation.
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Regardless of what this room serves as, be it dorm or break room, its still void of character. If this were a dorm, we would have no indication of whose it could possibly be.
It looks like the light behind Korkie is a map of some sort, or something similar its unclear, but that and the neon lights above Soniee are the only sources of color. The red and blue can mean a lot of things but I genuinely don’t think there is a major purpose behind it. We already saw the two sets of triplets.
However, lighting is meant to mean something. In particular, red can mean many things, but given the visual context it reads as stress inducing, as danger. Particularly surrounding Korkie as it does.
Now blue lighting needed a quick google search, but my results for the meaning of blue lighting where a little unexpected. Blue is a typical calming color, similar to green, though can also be interpreted as depressing and cold like grays, and blue lighting can be representative of isolation and passivity. Ironically, this scene is anything but passive. Again, im not putting much weight into it but I feel its worth noting.
Ultimately, its entirely impersonal, slightly stress-inducing, and only marginally better than the classroom only because it had color. Now onto my most egregious example from the schools we see and my most despised, the cafeteria.
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Do you see this shit? Where do i even start? My best guess is that these are approximately middle schoolers. If i went to this school I would willingly drink the poison. Their lunch looks like three tomatoes, three mystery cubes, and debatably either a cracker or a slice of cheese. Horrendous lunch. How is this acceptable to feed to children for a whole meal? Enough complaining about their lunches, though.
The cafeteria itself is offputting to say the least. Pure white. The children, pale and blonde, all wearing the exact same gray uniforms with only variation for the girls, because girl = skirts. It’s the picture of uniformity. Its horrific. The only color outside of the pitiful lunch is the monstrous poison drink nearly all children have. Probably bc theyre lunches are terrible.
This scene has two interpretations in my mind. The first is that its meant to be creepy as all hell, which is unlikely because we’re supposed to support New Mandalore. The second interpretation is that it was meant to look like the epitome of peace and serenity and utterly fails because it takes more than an overuse of the color white to represent innocence, purity, and peace.
How do you manage to make an entire school look like a cloning facility? In fact, I’m certain the cloning facility has more diversity than all of mandalore.
Now the issue with all of these areas of the schools on Mandalore is that they look like no place to teach a child. There are certain things that are conducive to learning and color is one of them! So is fostering individuality! There are specific things that make an environment suitable for learning and these schools have very few of them.
Now onto the Palace,
This will be a shorter segment than the previous. Although I will be lightly critical of Satine here. So to begin, we primarily see the throne room. In fact, im not even sure we see much else in the Palace of Sundari. We do see Satine’s rooms or office but I can’t find a picture of it so i won’t use the example.
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Both of these images share a few things in common. First is the dramatic lighting, the otherwise empty throne room save for the chairs that seem to have been brought in, and the only color present outside of gray is Satine and/or her throne. Even Padme, notable fashion icon, is or appears to be wearing gray in these scenes.
The dramatic lighting in the first image is an obvious “Hey! These are the good guys!” and I can’t piece out a relevent meaning behind the second image so Im choosing to move forward because I think it is just that, lighting.
Now the throne room being utterly void will be clearer in the next image I attach. The issue with it being so empty is that it feels almost lifeless, cold. It doesn’t feel like a throne room visually speaking. This ties into the last thing these images have in common. Satine and her throne.
Within the gray permeating what seems to be most of Mandalore at this rate, Satine is the only source of actual color. Her clothes are these vibrant, beautiful blues and greens and purples. Her throne is a glowing beacon above everyone.
What does that say, when every one of her people is dressed in grays, beiges, and pale blues? Or when they all dress the same?
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This is a better view of just how empty the throne room is. Theres more of the iron heart design, though still no real idea of the meaning further than it is significant, as well as the portrait of Satine. The only things in this image with color other than gray or biege are indications of Satine. But the throne room itself is almost entirely barren.
Whether or not you think this is any indication of her character one way or another thats up to you. My read on what this shows of her is that she is blinded by her own ideals, she doesnt truly see her people as they are, be that through ignorance or arrogance, and that allows the corruption to seep.
I wanted to show the hospital because I think thats a Good environment design for mandalore but i lost the picture. It is ironic that my example of good design is the one thats meant to be clinical.
Therefore, I’m moving on to the city at large
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The city itself is incredibly industrial. I’m torn because I know it has to be like that to a degree but it also doesnt have to be like that. That’s a choice the designers made. The city of Sundari exists within a dome due to the uninhabitable deserts from years of war, that doesnt mean it must look so cold.
It just feels so lifeless. Colorless even. Ive noticed by now, and you probably have too, that my main issue seems to be coloring. Well, I wouldn’t say its my main issue but it’s definitely up there.
We’re supposed to think that Satine’s New Mandalore is Good. That it’s this vision of peace and prosperity. But where do we see that visually? Through industrialization? Thats not good!
Now, I’ll be the first to admit that Satine’s peace is a clear facade for all of the shady bullshit going on behind her back, but we should be able to see that in the enviroment.
We should be able to see the idyllic peacefulness and people’s enjoyment of their city. We should see that face and the shady underside. We shouldn’t just see drab gray with a splash of corruption. It just makes Satine look like a bad ruler.
Characters and What They’re Telling Us
I’m actually not starting this with a particular character. I’m going to begin with the Mandalorian people as a whole.
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What a surprise! Theyre all blond white people! See I have a huge issue with the lack of diversity among humans on Mandalore for a few reasons. The first reason is the obvious, it’s fucking WEIRD. The second reason is that we know there are people of color who are mandalorian.
And on the one hand this really demonstrates my point. Everyone looks the same, everything is dull and empty. This isn’t prosperity.
The first example they look like theyre dressed in uniform. Every single one of them is wearing the exact same color. Thats not normal. In the second image, while they aren’t dressed uniformly, they are all dressed in grays and beiges. These people are Satine’s governing council. They’re supposed to high standing officials.
And that brings us back to The Duchess herself
I’m choosing to use her main outfit design for this. There will be no more images from here onwards because there is no space but I’m trusting you all to know what these characters look like.
Satine’s Dress can only truly be described as opulent. She dresses in shades of blue, purple, and green and elaborate headwear and accessories. Her hair is styled in a way characteristic of Kalevala, similarly to Korkie’s friend Lagos but more extravagant. The colors she wears are chosen to appear soothing and to honor the history of Mandalore’s forests and lakes.
But this isn’t something you might pick up on naturally. Remember this is a show for children. You would have to do the research to learn that. Without that information you could interpret her appearance any number of ways.
Between her headress and the color scheme, I would have confidently said she was peacock-like, had I not known the nuances. Character design needs to be something people can infer from. Something that lines up with the environment to tell a story.
That being said what her design is meant to tell us is that she greatly values the less violent aspects of Mandalore’s past. That she is trying to preserve and honor their history and Mandalore’s beauty.
The issue is that (from memory at least) the honoring forests and lakes never really is relevant? We see Peace Park but we’re never shown much about any restoration or preservation efforts of the planet itself. Did they just give up because its a “wasteland”? Were there no other alternatives? We were never given enough context, explicitly or implicitly.
And without the knowledge of what her design is supposed to mean, what is stopping anyone from misinterpreting it. What is stopping anyone from thinking she is just this haughty, holier than thou politician? Especially when you put her next to civilians or even her own council when she is already sat above them on her throne?
Satine’s design is essentially meant to show us her value to peace and progression but we arent really shown much progressing. We’re meant to just believe what we’re told rather than showing us the progress in, yknow, progress.
Now, Bo Katan
I chose specifically to include the sisters in this because I wanted to compare them, also bc obviously they are the most relevant. Bo’s design also demonstrates her values, admittedly way clearer than Satine’s.
She’s a traditionalist, someone who values the warrior ways, and yes also a terrorist. Thats not super relevant. Because she’s a traditionalist, it makes sense that her character design is rather simple in comparison to her sister, but they both honor the history of Mandalore all the same.
Mandalorian armor is equally as historical and significant as the iron heart itself, even so far as to have the two intrinsically intertwined, having the Iron Heart as part of the armor. I think most Mandalorian fans know this already.
Now, I want to take the armor paint color meanings with a grain of salt. Im not certain how canon any of it actually is even if the meanings do seem to hold up withon canon. However, the thing about the armor paint is that it sets the mandalorians apart as individuals while simultaneously tying them together as Mandalorians.
Bo’s armor is painted primarily blue and gray with white detailing and owl imagery to signify her Nite-Owls. Now in the EU the colors have meaning. Blue and gray mean reliabilty and mourning respectively. I think it would be in the Mandalorian culture’s best interests to keep this canon and even expand upon this.
This is because these unique paint schemes allow for individuality, community, and notable artistic expression. I mean, just look at Sabine. This contrasts with the uniformity of New Mandalore which just makes New Mandalore look really bad. Like really, really bad.
Next I want to look at Almec
So, Almec has two designs I want to look at. First is his usual outfit as Satine’s right hand and the second is his own armor.
Pre-betrayal, Almec wears an almost solidly white outfit, with gray, beige, and a dash of gold detailing. This design actually has two iron heart designs, one in his clothes and one in his hair. Outside of the iron heart, the design is very plain. The overuse of white is likely meant to give an illusion of purity and peace again. It doesn’t really work when he looks so clinical, though.
In his armor, Almec’s design is a stark contrast to the previous. He wears a light green, maybe gray, flight suit with black and gold armor. The reason I wanted to include this design for a number of reasons but specifically, the shoulder cord.
The gold shoulder cord gives Almec a more militaristic appearance, even in comparison to other armored mandalorians. This is actually a design detail I really enjoy because the gold shoulder cord essentially means “service to another” in the US military.
The colors black and gold in mandalorian armor represent justice and vengeance. Again, take that with a grain of salt, but I think more importantly this change actually makes Almec a more recognizable character. The armor is more personal than his prior outfit working under Satine as a New Mandalorian. It tells us more about who he is as a person.
On to Jango
Yes he is Mandalorian. I will not debate this I dont give a shit what George Lucas intended with him. I don’t even care what was said in TCW. Jango was canonically a mandalorian foundling. And yes I know they never show up really in relation to Mandalore, but Its important I mention them, I think.
So, we know in TCW, Jango isn’t considered a mandalorian by the New Mandalorians. They insist that he must have stolen the armor, that there’s no conceivable way he could be mandalorian. Except that we now have canonical confirmation that he was in fact a foundling.
See, here’s the issue with this, because in retrospect they’re basically denying a dead man his own identity and creed.
Jangos armor isnt really what I wanted to talk about in relation to Jango himself. Mostly I wanted to talk about what his character means for the New Mandalorians. Jango amd Boba are quite literally The Blueprint for Mandalorians. Except now we get more Mandalorians and they fully deny Jango his Mando-ness.
What, because he doesn’t align with their ideology? Jango wasn’t a great person by any means but being Mandalorian isn’t just a nationality. It’s something you’re taught.
Again this isn’t about the armor, it’s about the fact that he’s played by a Maori man. The first Mandalorian face we see is a brown man and that gives a real bad impression when you have a planet of White People claiming he isn’t even Mandalorian, why? Because he’s adopted? Because he was a bounty hunter?
The Clones
This section isn’t totally relevant so feel free to skip to the next, but i can only go so long without talking about them.
The clones themselves don’t have a strong tie to Mandalore, narratively speaking. However, they do have ties built into their appearances. More than just being clones of Jango.
They don’t speak Mando’a in canon and we aren’t totally sure who exactly trained them before Jango died, but we do have little hints from their character designs that indicate some connection to Mandalore or the Mandalorian culture.
Rex specifically is one of the few with jaig eyes. Jaig eyes are a Mandalorian honor symbol. And he’s not the only clone with this symbol, Blackout also has Jaig eyes on his helmet. Which leads me to believe this symbol is fairly common for troopers since its not terribly common we see clones sharing symbols without a personal connection to eachother.
Further than just that, clone trooper armor, phase 1 at least and presumably onward, is also based on Mandalorian armor. This is primarily because of the armor jango wears, naturally his clones would be fitted with similar. But the clones have also picked up the armor painting. Could this simply be a coincidence? Sure if you wanna believe that. I don’t think I do though because its so significant to both cultures as a means of individuality.
What does all of this say about Mandalore?
And I mean that as what is this telling us visually. What conclusions can you draw from this with just images. Because it doesn’t look great for New Mandalore. And maybe that was the intent. I know my first impression of Satine was just how unprofessional she was acting.
Except we’re supposed to see New Mandalore as the good guys, essentially, right? Riddled with corruption but still Good. That doesn’t translate when the setting is dystopian-esque at best. Its cold and empty and clinical.
When you see an entire planet of people who all look almost exactly the same, wearing the same clothes, the same hair, the same face, the same color skin, it gets unsettling. Its a weird design choice because it’s an American cartoon and America is characteristically individualistic.
The Bad Guy, the literal terrorist organization, caters more towards that visual individuality than the peaceful, progressive Good Guys. It visually reads as a Safety vs Freedom story but thats not the story that they need to be telling. You can’t go telling people freedom is evil.
It makes it incredibly easy to misconstrue what New Mandalore is trying to do because the visuals aren’t supporting them. There’s a reason so many people genuinely think Satine has comitted some sort of cultural genocide against her people because we aren’t seeing any of the culture and when we do see it, its not supported by the narrative. They may have Mandalorian writing but they never speak Mando’a on screen outside of Death Watch. We dont really know what the iron heart means and its everywhere. They may talk about prosperity and progress but they aren’t showing us that.
What I Would Do To Improve
This is the last segment, I promise.
I want to start with what could improve the background. Because a lot of the issue stem from it being dull and lifeless, I think giving it some sort of life would really fix a lot of the issues. Namely, I would say to put more trees, real, lush trees not the tiny ones you’d find in a city. It would help give context to Satine’s homage to the forests of mandalore if we had a visual clue from Mandalore itself. This would also bring in some more color and take away from the industrial appearance. This is more of a personal thing because I grew up around farms, but I think we should have seen a farm or some sort of clue as to how Mandalore is feeding itself. How is it sustaining itself, if not for import?
Another thing I would change would be the overall coloring. Generally, I would push for more color but I’m mostly referring to the color of the buildings. I would replace the cold gray and blues with more of a bronze and maybe a warm orange or even just changed the undertone of the blue could add so much. I would also give the lighting more warmth. Overall I would just add more warmth.
Adding onto this, I would also bring in more color by adding more public art. More murals and statues and the like. We know they have murals and paintings in the Palace at least. We should see them in the city, too. Having more art around the city would also connect it to the same cultural roots that have the mandalorians painting their armor.
In the schools, the main issue is that there’s no color. That these spaces dont have anything that would bring a sense of comfort to a kid. The stark white of the cafeteria is more stress inducing than calming and it would be good to replace some of that with a splash of color to break it up, as well as with some background decorations. Slap a poster on them there walls.
The classroom we see could also use just more decoration, make it look like a classroom. Have posters of diagrams and models. The room is dark so I won’t say much of the coloring except just make it look less cold. The back of the room has a wide, empty space and I think if that space were filled with something it would change a lot of the energy it gives off.
As for the dorm, if that is a dorm, give is an idea of whose room it is. Make it look like someone lives there. If it’s not a dorm, why are these kids sitting in a dark room? The room itself shouldn’t exude this uncomfortable feeling, that should be the undertone.
Overall, I think the Palace is generally fine if only it werent so empty, and again, if there were more color. The detailing and the lighting both look nice but it just needs to feel more like a throne room.
As for the people of Mandalore, for fuck’s sake, diversity is not going to kill you. Again its insane that all of the mandalorians of color we see are either A.) terrorists B.) deemed not mandalorian or C.) future cultists. We should see more black, brown, and Asian mandalorians. Hell, we should see alien mandalorians too.
Furthermore, they should have more variety in their clothes. What society wears all of three colors when they definitely have access to others? On top of that we should see Mandalorians who still wear pieces of armor. Armor is defensive, it’s not inherently violent to protect yourself and it honors the history of Mandalore while still moving forward with progress.
This is of course just my personal vision. These visuals can be interpreted in a number of ways, if you want to think the designs are good and exhibit peacefulness more power to you, I simply can’t see it. I tried my best to keep it to the Clone Wars series with a strict focus on the appearance, though that was a difficult challenge for me.
Anyways, I hope this was somewhat coherent and enjoyable. I’ve likely missed some details but this took me multiple days to organize my thoughts properly so im not pressed about it. Let me know your thoughts! Just be kind and don’t call me a terrorist :)
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separatist-apologist · 7 months ago
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Hi MB!
I hope you had a wonderful May 4th!!
I’ve just recently gotten into StarsWars (specifically the clone wars) and have discovered Obi Wan and Satine. Are you a big fan of them?
Is Satine only in the clone wars or are there also books that she is in? And what are your favorite Obi wan books?
If you do ship them are there any fics that you have read that you recommend?
I consulted @melting-houses-of-gold for this list, anon- anyone looking for a SW fanfic rec should ABSOLUTELY hit her up (AND FOLLOW HER), she is a compendium of knowledge!
Had You Said The Word by @velidewrites:
*crawls out of delusion box* But what if Satine DIDN'T die?
OR
TCW Season 5 Episode 16 reimagined to spare our feelings and simp for Dark Side!Obi Wan.
a map toward honor by @/galateagalvanized:
"Wait, I’m sorry, Satine, did you—did you steal two million clones?”
“‘Steal’, Obi-Wan? You can’t steal free-willed people." Satine laughs. "No, my dear. Kal sent me the access codes for every landing pad, door, and defense network the Kaminoans had, and we shut it all down. I don’t think even their automatic toilets were working by the time we walked through their front doors. After that, well. We had a nice chat with the clones, and we killed every single Kaminoan that tried to stop any of us from walking back out.”
Or: Satine steals some clones, steals a Jedi, and saves the universe. This is the way.
Morning Star by @/kurenaino: this is a series, so check out each work for the summary
The Jedi And His Duchess by @/sulis57:
Satine Kryze is a pacifist because of the Mandalorian civil war. But the idea first takes root in her mind after watching something terrible happen to Obi-Wan Kenobi.
The story of how Obi-Wan and Satine fell in love when they were young, and how their feelings reemerged when they reconnected during the Clone Wars.
Told in dual timelines. Graphic Violence. Takes place pre Phantom Menace/post Clone Wars episode Duchess of Mandalore.
“Calm yourself, young one.” Qui-Gon’s large hands stroked her cheekbones. “Where is Obi-Wan?”
She stared at him with wild eyes, tears still running down her face. “They took him.”
Qui-Gon’s look changed instantly, his features fell as fear gripped his heart. “Where?”
“Down the mountain, by the river.”
“Who was it?”
“Five bounty hunters. Obi-Wan could sense them coming. He told me to run.” Her chin began to tremble. “But I heard him scream so I went back.”
Only Hope by @/tessiete: Another series, again check out the individual summaries!
She Said The Word by @/the_obiwan_for_me:
In one universe, Jedi padawan Obi-Wan Kenobi is not asked to stay by the love of his life, Duchess Satine Kryze. We all know how that story goes.
In another, she said the word.
How is the galaxy effected when the great Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi never existed?
What does a galaxy torn to pieces look like with family man/consort to the Mandalorian Duchess Obi-Wan Kenobi in it?
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the-far-bright-center · 2 years ago
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That's easy! There are so many....
When I first watched TPM as a young teenager, I legitimately found Jar-Jar funny. Not even joking—I laughed!
I love what Jar-Jar represents thematically in the story. The fact that even creatures who are different from you and who might seem annoying are still important and worth saving, and can co-exist with others symbiotically.
His presence is also important to show the compassion and empathy of the other characters towards him, and it is quite sad and highly ironic that so many audience members could not find any compassion or empathy in themselves for his character.
I appreciate that he's not just comic relief but eventually becomes important to the plot and to uniting the Gungans and the Naboo and saving the day.
Jar-Jar is an innocent and well-meaning creature and I actually feel very sorry for him. He's also meant to parallel little Ani a bit in the Coruscant scenes as he's a 'fish out of water' in that context as well. Later on in AotC, Palpatine takes advantage of Jar-Jar and manipulates him, and this is another heartbreaking parallel between the two characters.
Some of the TCW scenes featuring Jar-Jar made me laugh harder than I've ever laughed at anything on tv in my life. The 'Bombad Jedi' and 'Gungan General' eps in particular.
There are also some heartfelt moments with him in TCW, particularly those that showcase his friendship with Anakin and Padme. The scene in ‘Shadow Warrior’ when Jar-Jar insists that they have to save Anakin from Dooku really gets to me. He and the Gungans clearly still love 'Ani' very dearly and never forgot his role in saving them in TPM. I find that genuinely moving!
Name one thing you actually like about Jar Jar Binks.
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tarisilmarwen · 1 year ago
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Rebels Rewatch: "The Holocrons of Fate"
In which things get Force Weird and Maul is the actual worst.
Full disclaimer in the name of honesty, I still think Maul's "resurrection" in TCW was stupid. It will never not be stupid.
That being said, I'm glad they decided, "Well, let's actually do something interesting with him." once they had him.
Making him into a Sisyphean/Tantalus-figure--always reaching, never grasping--adds a layer of depth and tragedy to him. No matter how hard he tries, Maul will never gain what he seeks. When it's within his grasp, he will inevitably self-sabotage or have it slip away from him.
We meet him at a time in his life when he's just lost everything, again. He finds new purpose and motivation in the form of Ezra Bridger figuratively falling into his lap--here's someone to carry on his legacy, that he can mold and teach--but in his eagerness to have him, he irreparably damages any chance the boy would have had to learn from him willingly.
But like Sisyphus pushing at that rock, like Tantalus reaching for the grapes above him, he cannot stop trying.
Probably fitting that his question to the holocrons is an answer to the inevitable existential dread of his own existence.
But I'm getting waaaaaay ahead of myself, he hasn't even shown his ugly face yet.
Instead we drop in on Kanan and Ezra, on a CR90, presumably coming back from a mission they headed up. Ezra's asking after the holocron again, still not quite over his obsessive addiction to it, still hyper-focusing on it as the only good thing that could have possibly come out of the mess at Malachor.
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"But if not to get the Sith holocron, why did Master Yoda send us to Malachor?" That's a good question. *stares at writers*
Kanan offers up the idea that is was for "a chance to destroy the Sith." Sure we'll go with that.
Their conversation is interrupted by them coming to their destination, a rendezvous point with another Rebel ship.
Thaaaaaaaaaat Maul has almost completely murderized. This scene is one of the ones that does a really good job subtly showing off Kanan's blindness. Ezra offers commentary for Kanan's benefit throughout, Kanan has a hand out to feel, he mentions the carbon scoring smell and inclines his ear towards the sounds coming from behind a door.
The only survivor can only gasp out about a "red blade... after you." ("you" being very specifically Ezra) and that the Ghost was in danger.
Right so I'd just like to emphasize, for the fandom's sake, Maul murdered an entire Rebel ship looking for Ezra.
Kanan and Ezra assume, naturally, that "red blade" means there's a new Inquisitor after them and rush to contact the Ghost. Whereupon they discover that it's Maul who's threatening them now.
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And ooooooh Ezra's piiiiiiiiissed.
"No... I betrayed your friends, but I would have remained loyal to you." *rubs eyes* That's... There's not a significant emotional distinction there for Ezra, you know that right, Maul? Of course you don't.
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Back when fandom was Absolutely Certain that Maul was going to successfully abduct Ezra in "Twilight of the Apprentice" there were theories flying around that Sabine would have to ply her Mandalorian connections in order to get information about where he might be hiding, since we knew by then her family had ties to Death Watch. Things didn't happen that way, obviously, but it was still nice to get a nod towards that connection.
Maul proceeds to be the world's worst houseguest, forcing Hera to take him on a "tour" of the ship while he comments snarkily about each room.
Like you have room to talk mister Lived In Literal Garbage For Years.
Anyway this tour seems to be mostly a ruse to look for Kanan's holocron, and Maul very creepily and uncomfortably pulls the information out of Hera's head. (Possibly along with Kanan's real name??? It was never actually elaborated on how Maul knows "Caleb Dume", but it would make the most sense he skimmed it from Hera, to throw her defenses off guard for his stronger mind probe.)
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You leave mom alone you cockroach.
I know this is serious but boy I would have LOVED to hear the conversation Kanan and Ezra must have had with Sato when they got back.
"Hey we need to borrow a speeder to go out into the desert past the sensor beacon fence where all the spiders are to visit a giant weird Force Moose and retrieve a Sith Soul Jar because a creepy spike-horned Dark Side nutcase kidnapped everyone else on our crew."
I'm just picturing Sato throwing up his hands all, "Just take whatever you need."
Also amusing: the idea of Ezra trying to describe the Bendu to Kanan later.
I absolutely dig this idea of holocrons creating a Force Convergence powerful enough to grant visions. I'm always in favor of Jedi artifacts being just a little bit weird with the Force. I mean, kyber crystals sing and hum to Jedi, lightsabers are a living extension of the Force moving through them, their temples carry thousands of years of emotions and feelings sticking to the walls, why shouldn't their holocrons be able to join with Sith holocrons to make an oracle?
The Bendu says he's neutral but he's also clearly set up this little test in order to help heal the rift between Kanan and Ezra (and he gives a fond little smile when he can sense their reconciliation).
"Why take his weapon?" "He's got to learn to solve problems without it." *WEEPS IN FINALE FEELINGS REMEMBERING THAT EZRA LEFT HIS LIGHTSABER BEHIND AND RELIED ONLY ON HIS UNIQUE FORCE ABILITY TO CONNECT IN ORDER TO SAVE EVERYONE*
Lol @ Maul trying to blunt force the Jedi holocron open. My dude. My guy. You were the one to point out that Sith holocrons can only be opened by a Sith or one who thinks like them. Follows that Jedi holocrons might operate on the same principle? Maybe?
Not sure what the point is of getting to the engine room quietly given the racket y'all made literally a second ago.
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This is actually a new part of the ship we haven't seen before now. It's accessed both by a grate in the floor under the main central ladder and the door at the very back of the cargo hold.
And this is a really clever idea with magnetizing the hold, remembering that Maul's legs are metal. They almost pull off their own rescue here.
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Bastard.
Sans his lightsaber, Ezra reaches for his blaster holster instead. Except I think that's empty too, I looked but I didn't see it equipped.
Kanan senses his panic and distress from outside and follows in. This scene reminds me a little bit of when Vision!Kanan showed up in "Path of the Jedi". Not sure why, just kind of does.
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Ezra instinctively moves to shield Kanan from the krykna, aww.
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Ugh this return to that timid, self-protective pose. :( We haven't seen Ezra shield himself like that in ages and it makes him look so much smaller.
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Kanan tells Ezra everything Ezra's been desperate to hear for six months:
It wasn't your fault.
I never blamed you.
Forgive yourself.
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Haven't talked about the music much but this is a nice rendition of Ezra's theme here for this heartwarming moment.
Ah noooooope I like the krykna EVEN LESS now, wtf is this it's creepy.
Ezra nervous little glances as the krykna uncurl. <3
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Ezra passing Kanan's mask into his hand. <3
Bendu's "Once a secret is known, it cannot be unknown." was a lot more ominous in the trailers, ngl.
Kanan showing a remarkable amount of trust in Ezra, leaving the decision on whether to open up the Sith holocron or not up to him. Ezra looks trepidaciously at it a moment and then decides not to, passing it back to Kanan.
(And then he never touched the Dark Side again lol.)
I can't even be mad that Ezra got the first blind joke in. At least he beat Maul to the punch.
Hhggngnghhh I hate him so much this rat bastard trash man. He immediately takes advantage of Kanan's blindness to lead him to an airlock and tries to space him.
EZRA WASN'T EVEN OUT OF SIGHT LONGER THAN A MINUTE OR TWO, MAUL, CAN YOU NOT?!
You actually can survive the void of space very briefly. You have about 15 seconds before you pass out, possibly more if you exhale first.
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Uggggggggghhhh this scene makes my skin crawl, Maul is literally fresh off his second attempt to murder Kanan and orders the droids to kill the rest and Ezra is standing there completely unaware of the danger he's in or what Maul's done.
Maul bald-face lies to him and tells him his friends are fine. Just imagining the horror of what would have happened if Kanan hadn't made it back inside, how Ezra would have emerged from the holocron vision only to learn the awful truth that Maul had killed everyone he loved, that he was alone, alone with a deranged murderer who had decided he was his apprentice...
*shudder*
As they prepare to join the holocrons, it's interesting to note that Ezra's wish is a bit Dark Side tinted--he wants the answer on how to destroy the Sith--while Maul's is Light--the vaguely described "hope". Hope for what it's not clear at first. Hope for meaning? Hope for purpose? Hope for another chance to fix what he considers the point at which things went wrong? Commentary from behind the scenes has said that Maul's motivation for revenge against Obi-Wan is primarily rooted in his fixation on his failure at Naboo. "If I can just kill this guy, the person who was there when everything went wrong, it will make it all better."
I think, given that Maul had become self-consciously legacy-minded, thinking about the future he planned to create with Ezra at his side, he turned his mind backwards to unfinished business from the past, messes he still had to clean up, in order to move forward.
And that's why he manipulates the holocron vision to show him Obi-Wan's fate.
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This sequence is really pretty.
The music cue that accompanies this moment is not overly bombastic, but rather sly, mysterious, and eerie, high vocals mingling with strings to create an odd balance.
The resignation on Sabine, Hera, and Zeb's faces when the droids point their weapons. :(
Hera's elation when she hears Kanan there. :D The very worried Spacefamily books it to Ezra of course.
Maul doesn't see anything from the vision at first, "Only oblivion!" he says, because the path he's on can only lead him there and urges Ezra to "Go deeper!" It just occurred to me that he's basically doing what his old master Palpatine would try to do in Season Four--piggybacking off Ezra's connection and using him as a conduit to achieve what he wants. He pushes Ezra to look harder because he can't see anything himself.
The brighter burst of blinding light could have just been an effect of Maul and Ezra sinking deeper into the vision but also I like to think Maul manipulated the convergence to try to keep the others away because it swells up right when we hear Hera calling for Ezra.
This bit is so cool, the Force is so loud and present in the room that Kanan's blindness doesn't matter, he can physically see through it even with his ruined eyes. Hera's voice distorts and fades as if it's coming across a large distance even though Kanan only goes a couple steps away. The orchestra rouses with full strings and chorus. The negative film effect makes Kanan, Ezra, and Maul look like celestial figures of pure energy.
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THE WAY THIS IS BOTH (LITERALLY) ABOUT THE TWIN SUNS OF TATOOINE AND (FIGURATIVELY) ABOUT LUKE AND LEIA, THE CHILDREN OF THE CHOSEN ONE AND THE TWO MOST KEY PLAYERS IN THE ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION OF THE SITH.
THE WAY ALL THREE OF THEM--LUKE, LEIA, AND EZRA--ARE NARRATIVE "CHOSEN ONES" WITHOUT BEING THE IN-TEXT CHOSEN ONE, HOW THE FORCE STILL PUTS THEM IN KEY PLACES IN ORDER TO BRING ABOUT THE FULFILLMENT OF THE PROPHECY.
THE PATH TO LIRA SAN WILL BE DECIDED BY THE FATE OF THE THREE.
Ezra ultimately trusts Kanan and looks away just before Maul can discern where, exactly, Obi-Wan is. The severed connection explodes outwards, throwing them all across the room, and the holocrons are shattered.
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Maul's cackling and crazed body language as he stumbles out to escape make it seem like the knowledge that Obi-Wan's alive has actually driven him insane. It's quite disconcerting.
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The Spacefamily surrounding Ezra worriedly. <3 You have to wonder if Kanan is fearing a repeat of Ezra's collapse back in "Gathering Forces", if perhaps for a moment he's a bit too still here.
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Oh look the two Most Important People in Ezra's life and narrative journey!
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The way Kanan keeps his hand on Ezra's shoulder until the very end. <333333
With a few minor nitpicks (mostly that a few of the mysteries aren't well explained or answered, see Maul's knowledge of Kanan's real name) this is a pretty solid episode, a worthy follow-up to the premiere. We continue to settle Ezra's Dark Side temptations, burying them mostly for good in this episode, though the lingering effects it had on him emotionally will continue well into his characterization, motives, and arc down the line.
Maul is an awful bastard in this and such a good villain. :) He's so much more confident and assured of himself, clear-headed and calculating. 0 for 2 on successfully kidnapping Ezra but his menace will still pervade and influence a lot of Ezra's decisions this season.
I'll talk more about the overall effects and purpose of the holocron arc when we come to its end in "Twin Suns" but for now I'll just enjoy this episode once again, it's great.
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zeb-z · 1 year ago
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this is me asking you about the qsmp star wars au so you have an excuse to talk more. I'm asking about [insert what you want to talk about here]
rahhhhhhh I’m gonna talk about Etoiles and Roier and lightsabers oh my :]
So Etoiles is definitely a Zelosian - which are literal sentient plants. They’ve got green blood that is more chlorophyll than anything, and can photosynthesize, able to survive up to two months on purely starlight and water. This is something Etoiles relies on maybe a little more than he should, during longer missions when they’re pressed for supplies.
And Roier! He’s humanoid, nothing too special about him, other than his pilot skills and sensitivity to the force. Whatever level of force sensitive that gives him the equivalent to a “spidey sense” if you will, I feel like that’s fitting. He’s definitely a frequent competitor in various ship and pod races across the outer and mid rim, the more dangerous the better - he enjoys the thrill, and the way the unpredictability of it all puts his skills to the test. At some point, he puts good use of those skills to the rebellion, eventually becoming a commander of his own squadron of dogfighters. Your classic X wing space jockey, flying by the seat of his pants with more wisecracks than the carbon scoring left on his hull after a fight.
Rivers is a fellow racer who may or may not find her way to Roier’s squadron fighting for the rebellion. She’s excellent in the cockpit, and excellent on the ground as a soldier, a fighter.
There aren’t a lot of lightsaber users right now, but I’m looking for literally any excuse to give my faves a lightsaber because that’s bitchin. Etoiles has one he took from a fallen Jedi, which he doesn’t use often. He doesn’t have any proper training other than basic similar weapons training until Phil’s little rebellion cell merges with his, and he trains him in what stances he can manage without the force. He gets shockingly good at deflecting shots, considering he’s guided by instinct and practice, and not the force.
Phil, for one of the only Jedi, actually doesn’t have his lightsaber. It fell from his belt sometime during the chaos of the Imperial raid when he had to get his family to safety - Missa had managed to pick it up, but never got to give it back before they were separated. It’s less of a loss and more of a reassurance, honestly, to know that Missa has it. Wherever his husband is, at least he’s protected by his finest weapon when he can’t be there to protect him himself. His saber never let him down when he had used it - he has confidence it won’t let Missa down.
Missa only gets by with a lot of reliance on the force. He’s not completely defenseless or helpless by any means, but he’s no trained warrior. It helps that the saber wants to work with him, the kyber core wanting to protect Missa just as much as Phil does. Like saber like wielder. And when they’re reunited, Phil still has Missa keep it on him, unless he absolutely needs it.
Pac has held a lightsaber before, but has never truly used one in combat. It was for a job he took, part of the cargo he was told explicitly not to look into for a large sum of credits. Of course he looked. But I think the idea of him, in some crazy moment of being attacked by some Inquisitor, having to use the saber in a barely survivable defense, is sick as hell. I think there’s an au of this au where he double wields in fact.
Speaking of double wielding, when Phil gets his saber back and lets Etoiles mess around with both sabers, he absolutely settles on reverse grip, think Ahsoka from tcw.
Foolish doesn’t have any sort of sabers, and he knows how dangerous they are from seeing the Inquisitors in action. However, he does have a few kyber crystals kept away, which is an impressive amount due to their rarity and value, and definitely illegal contraband he should not have. Leo’s favorite is a rather large purple one, in entirely intact and pristine condition. He’d make it into jewelry, some sort of necklace for her, if it weren’t so valued. If he didn’t get the feeling that cracking it into pieces or using it as ornamentation would somehow hurt the thing. Instead it remains at home, their most beloved possession.
Cellbit has a crystal necklace he doesn’t know is kyber, cracked and not quite red but it definitely changes hues and intensity over his life. Upon finding the significance of the force, and the way kyber connects to it, he tries his best to heal the crystal. Symbolism about trying to work through trauma and personal growth or something like that, yknow? When he marries Roier, the ring goes on the same string during investigations, so it never gets lost.
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ahsokathegray · 2 years ago
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The Clone Wars Venator names and the meaning behind Ahsoka’s Tribunal
So I know The Clone Wars show has been over for nearly 3 years now (wow) but I came to this daunting realization recently and had to share. I’m not even sure if this has been discussed already.
All through the show, we are introduced to a handful of Ventator-class Star Destroyers. Each Jedi and their respective Admiral belongs to one. For example:
Anakin → the Resolute
Obi-Wan → the Negotiator
Mace Windu → the Endurance
Plo Koon → the Triumphant
…and Ahsoka → the Tribunal
Now, I’ll get to Ahsoka’s venator in a minute.
As for the rest of the ones we’ve been introduced to, they are mostly named after a defining characteristic of the Jedi in which they belong (if Kenobi’s is any indication, I mean c’mon I don’t even have to explain that one). The only exception is Plo Koon’s ship, which I’ll cover towards the end.
With the Resolute, however, we can begin to draw some lines and connect the dots. Anakin continuously proves in the movies and in the show alike how determined and resilient he is during the war. In Ahsoka’s own words from Rebels:
“He rarely lost a battle”
Anakin is unwavering, strong, and the poster-boy of the Jedi/the Republic’s leading defenses for a reason. He’s the Chosen One and if he’s firm about anything it’s taking down the Separatists. I feel like this one pretty much speaks for itself.
Where Mace and the Endurance are concerned, it creates a perfect parallel to Anakin. The literal definition of endurance is the ability to withstand and overcome hardship without giving way. Mace isn’t Yoda’s number two without reason. Mace Windu is the exemplary Jedi in every way and what the Order wants their Jedi to strive to embody. Whether you like him or not, he follows the rules as he should. If Tales of the Jedi showed us anything, it’s that he rises in rank because he’s the cookie-cutter version of what a Jedi should be. He’s everything that Anakin, as the Chosen One, should try to manifest. But he doesn’t, and thus enters in the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker. This is just one small detail among many that allude to his eventual deviation from the path of the Jedi. Anakin ends up unable to endure the ultimate hardship he’s been faced with in Revenge of the Sith. He’s forced to endure the rest of his life without Padmé and in service to an evil he can’t overcome.
Then we arrive at Plo Koon, whose venator is the Triumphant. It gets destroyed early on in season one, but still plays a large part in the episodes it’s in. It acts as an element of foreshadow in the struggle against Grievous and the Malevolence. Despite losing the ship itself, Master Plo, and the Wolfpack survive.
While this doesn’t necessarily fall in line with our established pattern, it does highlight a key point in his character’s story in the whole of TCW. It simply acts as foreshadow for a very memorable moment in season 1 of the show.
Now, this brings me back to Ahsoka and the venator she is given in season 7. Tribunal is not a word than describe any one person. The definition of the word is a court of justice. In war, tribunals are established to try individuals who are accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
With that out of the way, let us backtrack to her arc at the end of season 5. Ahsoka was wrongfully accused of both bombing the Jedi Temple and for murder, finding herself kicked out of the Order for crimes she never committed. The tribunal, in this scenario, was both the Council and the official trial that Padmé and Tarkin were present for. She is prevented from continuing on as a Padawan. And when asked to return, Ahsoka willingly chooses to instead walk away from everything she’s ever known. She turns her back on them, just as they did to her.
In the final two episodes of season 7, a similar event unfolds. Despite having walked away, despite not being a Jedi, Ahsoka comes back and is still grouped in with those who are to be executed when Order 66 is given. She’s accused of treason against the Republic by Sidious’s words alone. Once again, Ahsoka is wrongfully charged with something she did not do, looped into a category in which she no longer fits. This time, it’s not the Council or the Republic that handles her trial. A trial isn’t going to be held at all. She’s indicted with the crime and offered no possibility of proving her innocence. She has no opportunity of choice here. A choice has been made for her. She’s sentenced to a death by execution at the hands of her own men. Men who, like the Jedi, no longer have control of the situation. Men who are sentenced just the same, stripped of the ability to do something about what the government says is so. Therefore, making the Tribunal exactly what it is — an unjust “hearing” that deems the Jedi responsible of war crimes they never had a hand in. The Tribunal declares Ahsoka to die, taking the 332nd, the Jedi, and the remains of the Republic down with it.
(TL;DR) Naming her venator this is ironic, as it foreshadows what we already know to be true — that a war tribunal that will not be held, that this will not end justly for anyone involved.
When hearing “the Tribunal” now, it just holds such a heavy, formidable, devastating weight unlike it did before.
So yeah, share my pain.
It’s like poetry, it rhymes.
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the-bad-batch-baroness · 2 years ago
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100-Followers Drabble Prompt Celebration Event ✍🏻
Y'all, I finally made it to 100 followers!!! 🥳
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Thank you so much for inviting me into the fandom and letting me be part of such and amazing community!
In honor of this momentous occasion, I'm hosting a small drabble prompt celebration event. I did this event with my last blog, and it was a great success!
The event is simple: pick a clone(s), pick a prompt, send an ask, and I have to write a very short fic in exactly 100 words. No more and no less. It's quite the challenge and a lot of fun! So, I hope everyone gets a chance to participate 🥰
Rules of Engagement:
Requests can be sent from blogs or anons.
Multiple requests are allowed.
Only (2) characters are allowed per request, which means:
You can choose, reader + clone (platonic or romantic (& or x)).
You can choose, clone + clone (platonic ONLY (&)).
All canon clones are available, even soup clone if you wanted him.
If you choose a clone that has multiple versions (ie: tcw Echo vs tbb Echo), please specify which one you want!
Only (1) prompt is allowed per request!
If I receive multiple of the same clone and same prompt, I will complete the first ask submitted and request the others to choose a different prompt or a different clone.
I do not write smut! Suggestive yes, smut no.
I do not write clonecest!
I do not write for OCs.
I only write fem!reader or gen!reader.
I reserve the right to decline requests.
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Prompt List:
"In my defense, I was left unsupervised."
"I said to make a small fire. This is not a small fire!"
"So, what's your plan?"
"I lied because I didn't want you to know how much it hurt me."
"Do you trust me?"
"That is a terrible idea. Let's do it and see what happens."
"How do we keep getting ourselves in these kinds of situations?"
"I don't know if I should kiss you or shove you off a bridge."
"Where did you learn how to do that?"
"Don't hesitate, just kiss me."
"Look at me. I love you."
"Wait, don't pull away."
"One day you will underestimate me again and regret it."
"Can I kiss you?"
"I thought you didn't want me?"
"What you're doing is wrong."
"Your hands are cold."
"You are the most beautiful thing I have ever seen."
"Oh, man, I've had the worst day ever."
"Apologize. Right now."
"It reminded me of you."
"Come here. Let me fix it."
"I'll walk you home."
"Here, drink this. You'll feel better."
"Don't you ever do that again!"
"Don't you dare throw that snowball!"
"Well, this is awkward."
"Please, don't leave me."
"Take a deep breath."
"Stay there, I'm coming to get you."
Masterlist:
All Of It (Cody x GN!Reader --- Prompt #10)
Good Girl (Crosshair x Fem!Reader --- Prompt #10)
What Is That? (Tech x GN!Reader --- Prompt #21)
Let's Get Physical (Rex x Fem!Reader --- Prompt #9)
The Prettiest Room Decoration (Gregor x Fem!Reader --- Prompt #18)
A Hundred Times More (Echo x Fem!Reader --- Prompt #25)
Cross Stitch (Crosshair & Mayday --- Prompt #22)
To Feel Loved (Echo x GN!Reader --- Prompt #11)
So Soft (Echo x GN!Reader --- Prompt #14)
What If We Get Caught? (Echo x GN!Reader --- Prompt #10)
Sneak Attack (Cody x Fem!Reader --- Prompt #13)
A Comforting Embrace (Cody x GN!Reader --- Prompt #12)
Love Doesn't Hurt (Fox x GN!Reader --- Prompt #4)
Event Requests: CLOSED
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eriexplosion · 2 years ago
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A bit of a thought about that Cody and Crosshair conversation in the new trailer...
It seems like it's pretty straightforward that Cody is doubting the order and trying to feel out where Crosshair is at and Crosshair is either still trying to hold onto the Good Soldiers attitude or is also trying to feel out the situation and isn't being upfront. My first thought was one of these two scenarios.
And then a third possibility hit me which is that this is a huge fucking misdirect.
Cody's still chipped of course, and while it could be wearing off... equally possible is that he's still fully under its control and his question IS to feel Crosshair out but not to find any kind of solidarity. Rampart has every reason not to trust Crosshair after that season one finale, he has EVERY reason to put him with someone under orders to report any signs of disloyalty or rebellion. And Cody is someone that Crosshair has a previous association with and by all indications likes - he was after all very defensive of Cody's command when he was injured in their TCW episodes. He's someone that would be able to gain Crosshair's very rarely handed out trust.
It would be a perfect set up to see how loyal he really is to the Empire. And if the chip is at full strength with him, Cody wouldn't be able to turn down the order no matter how much he might want to.
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morethansky · 2 years ago
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Do you have any clone ships?
Most definitely! Thanks for the question, anon! Honestly, I'll happily read fic and enjoy art of any combination of clones, but some of my favorites are:
Fives/Echo: A perennial fave of mine. It's childhood friends to lovers, except all their other friends died and they only have each other as they enter the warfront. That kind of bond is unbreakable. And it hurts so good that Fives lost Echo and then got a lot more cynical about his place in life—and about authority—and ended up dying, only for Echo to come back from the dead so soon afterward and have to find out that Fives was gone. I think a lot about Echo finding out about Fives not being around anymore contributing to his decision to leave with the Bad Batch. (Post–Order 66 situations where Rex is added to the mix in some angsty, complicated way are also excellent.)
Crosshair/Hunter: Currently experiencing severe brainrot for this ship. I'm always enchanted by enemies-to-lovers dynamics, especially friends/lovers to enemies to lovers, and I find how different Crosshair and Hunter both are in TBB compared to how they were first introduced in TCW absolutely fascinating. I'm obsessed with the little glances they throw each other in the TBB pilot, which imply this closeness we never get to see enough of. And then Hunter leaving Crosshair behind and Crosshair feeling so deeply betrayed and both of their reactions being to run away from each other is so delicious and interesting to explore. And then after everything, the icing on the cake is Crosshair saving Omega's life on Kamino just as Hunter is about to risk his life saving her, then choosing to risk his life to warn the Batch about Omega knowing it's Hunter who's particularly obsessed with her safety.
Jesse/Kix: They're just a natural pair. I'm so happy we were treated to more of them and their dynamic in season 7 of TCW. I think a lot about how when Maul looked into Jesse's mind, he must have seen so much of Jesse's sorrow and confusion about Kix's disappearance. What if Kix was abducted while Jesse was away at ARC trooper training, and he returned to find him gone? And when Kix wakes up on the Crimson Corsair and finds out about Order 66 and the chips, how does he feel knowing he wasn't there to help Jesse and his brothers?
Waxer/Boil: Like Jesse/Kix, they're a natural pairing, and I always love when a grumpy person falls in love with someone with a bubbly personality. I think a lot about how proud Boil must have been when Waxer got promoted, and then what he must feel after Umbara, when he can't find Waxer and then has to reckon with the fact that he was killed by a fellow brother.
Tup/Dogma: Whether it's Dogma pining while Tup falls for Fives, or Tup interacting with Dogma after the events on Umbara, or Dogma letting Tup get away with stuff he disapproves of, or Tup being defensive when Dogma is being bullied, or Tup getting with Fives after Dogma is taken away, or Dogma in prison finding out what happened to Tup, I love it all.
Tech/Wrecker: The TBB S2 finale really sold this for me. Wrecker's agony when Tech is in danger and when he realizes what he's about to do is so painful. And then the way he's shown crying and just sitting quietly by himself afterward... He reacts in a much rawer way than anyone else. I also like how they bicker in such a familiar way and how Wrecker is shown to be the most physically affectionate with Tech, always slapping him on the back and nudging him in the shoulder, and how Tech often starts what are clearly old arguments with him. They just feel lived in and Established Relationship™, in a way I like.
I'm just realizing these ships kind of all have tragic endings where the pairs are separated, huh... I'm an angst fiend, but I swear I like when the clones get to be happy together, too!
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sleepingsun501 · 2 years ago
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Your clearly a Fox stan and writer so of course you’d defend him like people are defending Crosshair but you depiction of him is toxic and violent because he uses his rage in your story to solve a problem. So maybe stop being hypocritical and don’t pretend to be all high and mighty when it comes to judging these characters.
First things first:
You’re = you are.
Your = belonging to or associated with the person or people that the speaker is addressing.
Secondly, did you even bother to read chapters 2 & 3 of Sweet True Lies? I’m also not anywhere near done with that story, so there is a lot of character development that hasn’t happened yet. His actions in my story this early on have a purpose. It's also not meant to be a super warm and fuzzy fic all the time either. It will have its moments.
Thirdly, Fox is mainly a fanon character. He barely got 5 minutes of screen time in TCW. I developed my own headcanons for him and write accordingly. Crosshair is a main character currently developing in canon, so you can’t compare him to Fox to make your arguments stick. I already elaborated on this in another post, but I’ll say it again:
Fox saw Fives as an armed and dangerous fugitive based on the information he was given, and the fact that Fives picked up a gun and pointed it at him and the Corries. Fox did also warn Fives not to shoot, giving him an opportunity to resolve the situation, but Fives picked up the gun anyway. At that point, it was a matter of self-defense for Fox while trying to do his job. Based on those circumstances and his position in the Coruscant Guard, Fox didn’t have any other options.
So, anon, maybe instead of coming after my writing, you should stop trying to take away the agency of these characters. It’s fine to like Crosshair as a character, and it's also fine to hope for his redemption. Just don’t make excuses for or outright dismiss his shitty choices to stay with the Empire, hunt down his own brothers, and commit the cold-blooded murder of civilians.
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antianakin · 10 months ago
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Okay, so the first question I think you're asking is whether I believe Obi-Wan being accused of struggling a lot with attachments comes from his actions on Mustafar in ROTS or whether it comes from his choices about what he tells Luke regarding Vader during the OT.
Personally, I'd probably say it's the Mustafar scene, perhaps combined with some of the other scenes he has in ROTS with Anakin. I've had someone argue with me that Obi-Wan saying he's "on Anakin's side" when they're discussing the Council not making Anakin a Master means that Obi-Wan is saying he believes Anakin SHOULD be a Master and that the Council is being unreasonable, and I've seen people accuse Obi-Wan of being soft on Anakin specifically because of the way he acts in ROTS and the way he defends Anakin to Mace and Yoda.
I don't really agree with EITHER of these interpretations, I think Obi-Wan saying he's on Anakin's side just means that he understands what Anakin is feeling and that just because he (and the Council) are frustrated with this latest decision doesn't mean that they're actively working AGAINST Anakin for any reason. And I think that Obi-Wan is plenty hard on Anakin in both AOTC and during early TCW seasons and that his defense of Anakin and softer attitude in ROTS is an indication that Obi-Wan is choosing to have FAITH in Anakin and that Anakin will ultimately make the right choice which is an indication of growth from his more helicopter parent style in AOTC, but he still recognizes that Anakin has flaws and is making mistakes.
It also doesn't help that the Matthew Stover ROTS novelization has Obi-Wan literally admit that he'd save Anakin at any cost and condemn the Jedi for asking Anakin to spy on Palpatine, saying that he doesn't think Anakin SHOULD trust them again after that (one of those reasons I'm not super interested in reading the book, regardless of how pretty its prose is).
So yeah, I think that most of the accusations about Obi-Wan being attached to Anakin come via ROTS (film and novelization). That interpretation of them then gets APPLIED to the scene in the OT where he is telling Luke he needs to prepare for the possibility that he might have to kill Anakin. This is where you get the interpretation that Obi-Wan recognizes that he was too attached to Anakin to kill him and that Luke cannot make his same mistake. But the root of it I think comes from ROTS, not ROTJ.
The second question you are asking me is, in an AU version of ROTS where Yoda DOES manage to kill Palpatine and Obi-Wan knows it, would he actually kill Anakin. And I still think the answer is no. It's actually even MORE likely to me that he wouldn't because now he KNOWS no one's coming to save Anakin, he KNOWS Anakin is absolutely 100% going to die from his injuries here, so he really has no motivation to go for a mercy kill any more than he did before. It's still going to be insanely painful for him to do even that much, it's still going to feel basically impossible to kill someone he loves, and now that Anakin is unarmed and refusing to ASK for mercy, it is still murder to make that final blow (which is made even worse if Obi-Wan knows that he doesn't HAVE to because Palpatine's already dead). I think the only way I could see Obi-Wan going for a mercy kill is if the opposite were true and he DID know that Yoda failed and that Palpatine was on his way. Because NOW he has a motivation to try to keep Palpatine from being able to save Anakin and keep at least ONE Sith from continuing to live and wreak havoc on the galaxy. Of course then, whether you'd consider it a MERCY kill or not is kind-of questionable. He isn't really doing it for Anakin's sake, it's not truly mercy that's forcing his hand here. It's a quicker death for Anakin, which is abstractly merciful, but Obi-Wan is killing him for the sake of the galaxy at large, not for Anakin himself.
Finally, while I agree that Mace would've killed Palpatine had Anakin not shown up to stop him, I don't consider it a waste of time in the narrative. This scene IS the narrative, this is literally the whole climax of the entire trilogy, what everything we've seen so far has to been leading towards. THIS is where Anakin chooses to be Darth Vader, THIS is where he betrays the Jedi, THIS is where the Republic falls. Without this scene and Anakin's reaction, there IS NO narrative. Anakin making this choice in this scene IS THE WHOLE NARRATIVE. That's not a waste of time. And if we're speaking more from an in-universe perspective, it's not like Mace stops doing what he's doing to talk to Anakin, either, he's still blocking the lightning the entire time and reflecting it back at Palpatine and as soon as he has the opportunity, he goes for the killing blow. So he's not wasting time at all, this arguably would've taken the exact same amount of time if Anakin hadn't shown up.
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ebisul · 5 months ago
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TCW Rewatch: Season 2 Episodes 12-15
The dreaded mandalore arc post. Im going to be upfront, if you dont like me slandering Satine just dont even read the post. Turn back now. I’m not going to engage in dumb arguments. If you want to comment be civil.
I try to be as objective as I can writing these. I call it as I see it even when i do like the character. However I also recognize the tone can come across as aggressive, its not meant to be I just Talk Like That.
Anyways, enjoy!
Episode 12: The Mandalore Plot
* Obi wan sent to Mandalore to investigate rumors about a secret army built for the separatists
* “All of our warriors were exiled to concordia. They died out years ago” thats fucking weird. Like if we’re talking just Death Watch thatd be whatever they’re terrorists but all of the warriors?? What about Satine’s Guard? Do they not qualify as warriors? Or are they allowed because they’re Satine’s warriors
* Amec awfully defensive about Jango Fett being mandalorian. “Jango Fett was a common bounty hunter. How he acquired that armor is beyond me” what exactly makes someone Mandalorian or not?
* Satine is so hostile just as soon as she enters. That doesnt look good for your case, Duchess, considering you want to prove you have no intent of turning against the Republic. bad political decision.
* Sabateur is mandalorian. Amec really going hard on the denial "no mandalorian would engage in such violence. not anymore" babe you have Video Evidence of the exact opposite
* Satine assumes this whole thing is because the Senate wants to intervene in the affairs of Mandalore
* wild assumption considering obi wan has done nothing thusfar outside of try to get answers for his investigation. awfully presumtuous and honestly arrogant all things considered
* get her ass, kenobi
* i find it so hard to believe these two are supposed to have been in love
* Ok so now you mention Death Watch, not earlier when you were throwing around baseless accusations where that information could have been necessary??
* "its hardly a movement" a small group of hooligans typically doesnt warrant secret officials rooting them out. all this tells me is that she knows about death watch and refuses to do much of anything ab it. what does she plan to do with the investigation?
* The separatists want to help overthrow satine
* Satine trying to lecture Obi Wan on peacekeeping and Jedi ideals is fucking audacious. “The job of a peacekeeper is to make sure that conflict does not arise” and what when conflict does? You cant always prevent conflict. The conflict is already there so arguably Obi Wan has a more understandable and realistic point of view here.
* Also terribly ironic that an act of terrorism occurs as they are having this conversation. This isn’t Peace. Its ignorance.
* “Hooligans couldnt have arranged an attack of this scale” “It must be an offworlder” denial is going to get your people killed
* Side note: the sheer amount of blonde white people makes me so uncomfortable for this to be an idyllic state of peace for mandalorians. Especially when any mandalorians we see who are poc are stripped of their mandoness, or cult members (this is in reference to Jango and Din, im uncertain of what sabines family’s political views were)
* Damn
* That man shot at obi wan while he was trying be diplomatic ab it would she blame him for self defense? Thats fucked up especially bc shes totally cool with self defense when she does it
* Obi wan got hands
* She is being so suspicious
* She criticizes him every chance she gets, and rather unfairly too
* What do you mean they’re supposed to be in love? They dont even act like they Like eachother. Obi Wan has had kinder interactions with most of his main villains
* The pre vizla death watch entrance is unfortunately kinda badass
* The dark saber having a different sound effect scatches the brain
* Obi Wan (correctly) believing the separatists are supporting Death Watch and Satine immediately saying no i want no part in that conflict is weird. Like thats not a decision you make. You joining the clone war is not what hes talking about, The Death Watch dont care about what you want. I dont even know how she turned this conversation into a “i wont be part of this war and you wont convince me” discussion when he literally didn’t say anything of the sort
Episode 13: Voyage of Temptation
* I didnt even notice the scene of Satine expectantly waiting for Obi Wan to kiss her hand last episode until this episodes recap. I hate it that feels condescending
* This is where they start revealing that they had or have feelings for eachother and I simply Cant See It
* The way she talks down to obi wan constantly and even seats herself above everyone else like bro have literally any fucking respect for others outside of yourself
* The spider droid deaths are already so dark
* “Even extremists can be reasoned with” Duchess YOU are an extremist and you clearly can’t be reasoned with, just because your extremism isnt violent doesnt make it not extreme
* And again pacifism is ineffective in the face of an uncaring enemy, you fight or you die
* Im only like 1/4 of the way through this episode
* I feel like they try to push obitine so hard it just falls flat for me because their negative interactions outweigh any positive ones
* Anakin seems to really be pushing Obi Wan to have feelings for Satine but it comes across as Anakin projecting his worries about his relationship with Padme onto Obitine, because if Obi Wan can do it its okay that he can. Except Obi Wan doesnt, he lets it go
* Ooh creepy clone puppet scene
* I love when star wars tries to be spooky scary
* “Just because im a pacifist doesnt mean i wont defend myself” you mean like how last episode you said if obi wan had killed that guy you would blame him even tho he was just defending himself?
* Also Another assassination attempt… surprising…
* “This line of questioning borders on torture” arguably no it doesnt??? What harm is it causing? Emotional distress is already caused by the fact that there is a traitor present releasing the droids in the first place
* Senator Merrik was on Mandalore with Satine, is he from Mandalore? Who is this guy? Hes the Senator for Kalevala in the Mandalore system
* The fact that Satine could be betrayed by literally every single one of her close colleagues is honestly telling of how her peace was just a facade used by her enemies to blindside her.
* Merrik looks so disturbed ab Satine suddenly confessing her love
* Me too
* Also the fuck you mean youve loved him ever since? Youve been treating him like shit this whole time???
* At least the distraction worked, as uncomfortable as it made me
* Merrik, as shitty as he is, makes a decent point about if Satine shoots him or not, She’s politically backed herself into a corner
* “Who will strike first and brand themselves a cold-blooded killer?” Enter Anakin
* I do think had Anakin not been there Obi would have done it for the greater good, or found a less fatal way about it
* Yes Cody, please interrupt the moment
* Why did her attitude change so drastically at the end?
Episode 14: Duchess of Mandalore
* So Death Watch has the means to attack Mandalore and if Satine allows Republic occupation then Death Watch’s attack puts them in the people of Mandalore’s good graces allowing them to usurp Satine
* Obviously palps wants to do this for a power grab, Jerek could well have been another of Satine’s allies betraying her although im not so sure. He calls for Republic assistance against Death Watch becasue he sees them as a threat, calling out the Pride of the government to not ask for assistance from the Jedi.
* Either way this could have gone, it would always end the same because to maintain peace you have to Fight for it. That doesnt mean you have to be violent but you cant be ignorant of it either
* Arguably Satine is correct about the Republic occupation making them a target for the war and she has the right to remain neutral but what exactly is her alternative plan to deal with Death Watch
* Those guards of hers dont seem very pacifistic
* Damn friend zoned lmao
* So far Satine in this episode is at least more tolerable and I understand where she’s coming from
* What the republic is doing IS wrong but shes not offering an alternative to stopping Death Watch to protect her people
* Isnt she allied with 1500 other systems or something like that? Why did she go to the Senate at all?
* Thats underhanded(holding the vote without Satines presence or knowledge)
* Ok assassination yet again
* Running away is not the most intelligent decision from an innocent woman
* Neither is attacking the police
* I feel like this could have been avoided
* Ok thats a cool scene
* So are there warriors on Mandalore or not? You arent going to combat them effectively without a fight, its unrealistic.
* “The temerity to stand strong in the name of peace” so what exactly is the plan to protect the people of Mandalore from Death Watch. You can’t just say nuh uh and expect them to back down and submit to pacifism, they keep saying theyll stand strong but they haven’t mentioned anything about what exactly they will do to stand strong against Death Watch
* Mandalore escapes Republic occupation
Episode 15: Senate Murders
* A group of senators want to escalate the production of troops, Padme and her allies recognize this will prolong the war and is working against it
* Padmes enemies are accusing her of separatist conspiracy, if this gets out to the rest of the senate she is absolutely fucked
* Ono assassinated, they actually succeeded this time
* Where do i know this lieutenants voice? Its grating just like his personality, no offense to the va
* Mothma and Bail both act like parental/older sibling figures to padme, im a whore for that shit
* I wish I could hate this guy more but the dracula vibes go too hard im sorry
* Oh shit dracula is dead as hell
* I do love a good murder mystery, idk why i was so apprehensive about this episode
* Is it Lolo?
* As much as Burtoni sucks, i do believe her when she says she doesnt give a single fuck enough to kill these people, she just has that vibe
* Yeah i knew it
* Ono made the decision he did because the Rodians were starving and need the help the Republic couldn’t be bothered to expedite, it was a mistake made out of hope for his people to live
* I love when Padme throws hands
* The clones will continue to be “manufactured” although it doesnt say whether or not they will be creating more faster, i thought that was the original plan
* Manipulative bitch
War Crime Counter
Separatists: 9
Republic: 5
im counting the act of terrorism and the assassination of the informant.
Im uncertain if Ono and Dracula’s assassination belongs under Republic or not tho
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hypnified · 1 year ago
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why are people even sending you hate? you're always so cool, and fun to interact with and you've always been sweet to everyone too. you never had to show us your ocs, but you graced us with them. storm shooting erix isn't even a bad thing, storm chose life or death, it shows that storm is willing to do what it takes, he's so empathetic. he shot his own brother to save another life, i get it people may not like that he shot another clone but people need to get a grip and leave blue alone. i'm not even a mutual of blue, i've been lucky enough to interact with them! i love the character it gives storm, talk about the trust issues they have, talk about those messy arcs, post that art, we need to know more about your beloved clone boys. post those thoughts, those headcanons, those blurbs, those interactions, those incorrect quotes, i want people to write fics on your ocs, i want angst and fluff if your boys, i want to know how bear reacts to fives and thorns death. screw the hate anons
Anon, you're gonna kill me :((
Well, basically last night I received an anon asking why storm didn't execute order 66, which really wasn't a big deal it was harmless. Until I mentioned that he shot Erix, i wanted to get it out before I slept. I knew after posting it there was gonna be some negative responses. But I didn't think too much of it. Of course, when I woke up I clearly underestimated the fact that people weren't going to like it. My ocs have received hate in the past, so at first I wasn't too bothered by it. But after I deleted the post, I had some more hate anons, I won't give them the time of day by answering them.
I try to be as easy to interact with as possible, but I know that it's always the case. I'm nice to everyone because they deserve it, I don't expect any of it in return. If I'm making someone happy then I'm doing something right.
I had briefly spoken about some of my clones on a-streakofblue so it wasn't too big of a deal, but those posts aren't worth looking at. I wasn't even that comfortable talking about them on there, but I finally said fuck it let's ramble about my ocs. It mainly took seeing my friends and mutuals rambling about their ocs for me to roll with it. I started off with my Bear headcanon post, and I just continued from there. Everyone has been welcoming of my little guys which was great!
"storm has no empathy." Storm is one of my most loving ocs, he's incredibly empathetic. I get it not everyone will agree with his actions or that I'm coming to his defense. He was literally made as a comfort oc for tcw s7 finale, Storm was never supposed to be anything serious. He originally wasn't apart of my clone project to begin with until I made Irais, they were apart of a battalion that I had made until I scrapped it. Irais was forgotten about, and Storm was made into a 501st oc.
It's still up for debate if I'll change it, I might make it so he only stuns Erix I don't know. But I'm not gonna recycle Storm just because of some hate anons.
The post about Erix's trust issues is just sitting in my drafts I may or may not post it. I'm gonna have to think about it before I post about those arcs, because I genuinely don't want a repeat of today. I will eventually get back into oc content only if people still wanna hear about them. People's opinions matter to me a lot.
I'm not sure who you are anon, but I'm glad you like interacting with me. But, I'm really sorry for this.
All in all, I'm still not sure how to react, ironically I've stated my opinions on hate anons multiple times but yet again here we are. I hope this clears things up.
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