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"If a man talks shit then I owe him nothing,
I don't regret it one bit cause he had it coming"
@shsl-islandmode-events
#drawganronpa 2024#day 3 let's goo#I really really wish I had time to more#I had some ideas but they didn't turn out good because they were rushed#we'll see#anyway#killer Miu because she deserved this#implied danganronpa v3 spoilers?#I'll tag it just in case#danganronpa v3 spoilers#tw: pink blood#tw: blood#danganronpa#miu iruma#danganronpa v3#danganronpa v3 fanart#quote from I did something bad by Taylor Swift cause Miu is a reputation girlie#matyldaarts
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Widow(er)s
#danganronpa#danganronpa v3#danganronpa v3: killing harmony#drv3#danganronpa spoilers#drv3 spoilers#art time#maki harukawa#shuichi saihara#saimomoharu#(implied)#‘if you saw my saimaki doodle this was the other idea I was referring to in the tags#Struggled a bit getting the colors right#But I’m happy :)
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Oumota Week 2023: Day 1 - Hospital AU / Hunger Games AU
It's the third in my timezone so here we go! Went with a postgame vr au set in the hospital after. Was really thinking on the wake up, the trepidation of the unknown. Death wasn't the end. And how, just how, does Kokichi wake up a martyr to help him through it again?
#oumota#oumotaweek2023#oumotaweek#kaito momota#kokichi ouma#ouma kokichi#momota kaito#hospital#postgame#ndrv3#danganronpa v3#ndrv3 spoilers#my art#my content#my oumotaweek#vr au#Went a little bit messier style wise with the markers this time#team danganronpa#tdr#implied anyways
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danganronpa v3 killing harmony chapter six trial
#danganronpa#zxmbigirlart#drv3#ndrv3#ndrv3 killing harmony#ndrv3 spoilers#drv3 spoilers#danganronpa v3#yeah#tsumugi shirogane#shirogane tsumugi#implied spoilers#doodle while i cook up smth else
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I couldn’t sleep last night and so now I have this entire AU plotted out in my head where throughout the entire killing game, Kagehara just kinda hangs out as a voice in Shuichi’s head, giving him vague hints and stuff and even having a character arc going from massive Danganronpa fanboy to questioning the show’s dubious ethics, to fully believing it should end by the end of the sixth trial.
Plus I l like the idea of Kage occasionally being the one in control and getting to talk to the others half because it contributes to that character arc if he gets to see the harm Danganronpa causes first hand and half because he definitely would try to subtly fuck with everyone for his own amusement.
They would work kinda as a system but I’m not actually sure I would be able to portray that accurately if I actually wrote everything out.
Anyways since I’m also Saiouma trash, Kage would totally try and get Shuichi and Kokichi together because he needs his and Bonkichi’s self inserts to date, but over time he starts seeing Shuichi less as a character and more as his own person and dials it back because even if Shuichi does have some amount of interest in Kokichi, he doesn’t want to pursue that due to their situation and Kage learns to respect that.
That’s all of my insane ramblings about this idea for now but I will probably have more of them later.
#danganronpa#danganronpa v3#danganronpa v3 spoilers#shuichi saihara#kagehara#pregame shuichi#saiouma#oumasai#only a little tho#kagebon#kinda#it’s implied#ingame kagehara au
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A commission I did for @toxicpineapple!! This was super fun to work on, I've been meaning to draw Oumota for a WHILE. Post-game hurt/comfort is great way to start
#kaito momota#kokichi ouma#oumota#danganronpa v3#drv3#ndrv3#danganronpa#momota kaito#ouma kokichi#kokichi oma#oma kokichi#danganronpa art#danganronpa fan art#drv3 spoilers#(implied at least)#I'm SUPER proud of this ahhhh#pluto creations#id in alt text
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No going back now.
Panel in this comic (part 3/3)
#new danganronpa v3#ndrv3 spoilers#ndrv3#danganronpa#danganronpa v3#danganronpa v3 spoilers#danganronpa spoilers#cw implied character death#miu iruma#iruma miu#kokichi ouma#oma kokichi#kokichi oma#ouma kokichi#ch4 spoilers#glittersart#glitz dr comics#posting this panel on its own bc i really love how it came out#its so. cold. a split second in time.#whether he really did turn around or just wishes he would have#they arent chibi bc. sssstyle
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Ah, Chapter 3, my beloathed
HAHA, yeah. This whole trial was just one bad writing decision after another. There are very few things I like about this trial, but I do like how Syobai was handled as a smart character since usually the problem with the Assistant/Support character is that they often feel like they just know the answers like they were given a cheat sheet, but unlike other examples of this type of character, Syobai was at least allowed to make mistakes when a flaw is pointed out by Kanade, who IS the very example of a cheat sheet (gestures to that one Chapter 2 clue with the icicles). So he had to go back and think it over, and is only able to figure things out by picking out other people's choice of words that gives him an idea of how the murder plan worked. Syobai is smart, but even he acknowledged that he couldn't do this on his own and needed to debate amongst the group. It's an example of a smart character done right, even if it was at the cost of the rest of the cast losing their braincells again and we had to go through 6+ fucking hours of a case that could've easily been cut down to three if we just stopped going back and forth on the culprits and simplified the murder case.
Speaking of smart characters being handled well, I can't say the same for Kanade since you can tell that she was one of LINUJ's favorites and is constantly being praised for being "smart" through the writing and dialogue, which is more aggravating and heavy-handed with how it was handled. It literally just screams, "Look at my edgy Mary Sue, isn't she cool?!!!" But it just falls really flat, at best, cause you know she's only "smart" and can "do everything" because LINUJ wanted her to be smart and "perfectly talented" and chose to rip away everyone's braincells just to have her be the smart one. And don't even get me started on the double-blackened twist. I like the concept in theory, especially since it would shake up the usual formula of Chapter 3 cases having three people die instead of two, even if Chapter 3 cases are usually mishandled and bad because of it. But only in theory, as when put into practice here, it's reasoning was so fucking stupid even by Danganronpa standards. Identical twins being almost exactly the same to the point that Hibiki and Kanade has the perfect sense of rhythm? That's so stupid and ignores the fact that twins are completely independent people that can have their own thoughts and interests, despite what fiction makes you think with it's own stereotypes on twins. And LINUJ forced ALL of the spotlight onto Kanade, and just shoved Hibiki to the side in the process. Like, c'mon. Regardless on if you think she should've survived or not, if you're going to kill her off, at least give her some focus for having killed her best friend without remembering it! Even V3, the same game that inspired LINUJ to create Kanade to be like Korekiyo, did the whole, "The Blackened who murdered the Victim didn't even remember doing it," concept a lot better and gave focus to how fucked up and heartbreaking it was for the Blackened to realize that YES, they did kill someone and it devastated them. Again, LINUJ clearly had a favorite, and that favorite just sucked everything out of Chapter 3 to the point it did a disservice to another character and just ruined the entire trial.
...At least I had fun voicing Kanade and Syobai. I got to really ham it up with Kanade's breakdowns, and be a little shit through Syobai. And my friend's reactions were entertaining, so I got some enjoyment out of this nonsense of a trial.
#Asks#Star Talks#SDRA2#Super Danganronpa Another 2#SDRA2 Spoilers#danganronpa v3 spoilers#<- implied#we hate Kanade in this house
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They will never make me hate you Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony. They way you all misinterpreted the message....criminal jail time
#danganronpa#danganronpa v3#implied spoilers#i guess#the message of the game was that fiction can still impact someone even if it isnt real#just like how Danganronpa has impacted all of us players#WE ARE SHUICHI IN THIS SCENARIO#IT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A GOTCHA SHAME ON YOU FOR ENJOYING TEENS KILLING EACHOTHER
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hii!! so idk if you saw, but i recently posted a theory abt how xander and eden were survivors from a previous killing game.
you’re super cool and smart so i was wondering what you thought of it lol
(this sounds like free promo for my theory but i promise it isn’t)
(i just want opinions on it bc i can’t tell if i did a good job or not)
Hey there! Yeah, I saw it, and I think it’s a pretty good theory! I enjoyed reading it, your writing style is fun. Below are my full thoughts on it. For anyone else, please read the original first, this is going to be incomprehensible otherwise.
Also don’t worry about looking like you’re “promoting” your theory. It’s Tumblr, no one gains anything here, we all just lose. What would you even use the promotion for lol.
Also also you people have gotta stop giving me so many compliments it’s feeding my god complex /j
CW: Violence and blood, death, Danganronpa V3 Spoilers
[Background]
Admittedly, I don’t know how literally connected V3 is supposed to be to this whole situation, given the difference in the settings and the like. Especially since Teruko’s only mentioned remembering “that other killing game”, implying she doesn’t know about the 50 others despite vaguely knowing about the THH one. However, it is perfectly valid to bring up V3 as a meta point (which I think is what you’re doing?); the idea exists, so DRDTdev could have certainly taken it for DRDT. In any case, it sure is an interesting premise!
[The Survivors]
[Xander Matthews]
“[Post]: he has the personality for self-sacrifice.” True!
[For the sake of clarity, I refer to this scene as “the pre-prologue scene”, given that we see it before the Prologue title card appears]
““Them” could be the other people in the killing game. [...]
And, most of all, he says that he has to end the killing game. How the hell would he end a killing game without having been in one? (don’t answer that)”
I mean, solid reasoning! The idea that Xander was actively in a killing game while this scene happened has been thrown around, such as in my “original killing game” theory that we don’t talk about ‘cuz it was insane, because it’s a pretty reasonable conclusion to draw from the dialogue, as you said. For a while now I’ve sorta assumed that Xander was speaking of ending the killing game before it began, but there’s both semantic arguments to argue your theory and that one. The way Xander speaks in pre-prologue seems to imply the killing game is already underway, which is a point to you, but the secret David received mentions “The killing game is all your fault,” potentially implying there’s only ever been one modern killing game (“modern” as in, after THH). I think the idea of Xander actively being in a killing game in pre-prologue is stronger, though, I’m only bringing this up to account for all possibilities.
And “them” could be whoever so :p
[Xander Picture]
“When was this?
Why would he be in the same outfit, while having both eyes?
It makes sense if he was in a previous killing game, doesn't it?”
Well I mean. It could be. It could also just be from the time the cast (or most of it at least) was in the same Hope’s Peak class. Keep in mind all the outfits the characters were using at the start of the prologue are the same as the outfits they first went to Hope’s Peak with, as otherwise they’d have pointed out that their clothes changed between the moment they “lost consciousness” (the last moment of their memories, which is going to Hope’s Peak) and their appearance in the killing game place.
So, I propose that, seeing as it originated from LGI, this image could just be the first time David actually met Xander in person, or some other notable memory between the two of them. Of course, I have no evidence for this as much as there’s no great evidence for your take either. Basically I’m just saying this isn’t a very strong point in my books, but it’s not like I know any better than you what’s going on here :v
[Eden Tobisa]
“First of all, there’s the similarities between her handwriting and the handwriting of the note that Xander received. [...]
The T’s are the same, the E’s are the same, the A’s are the same. Don’t deny that it’s a strong, and the most likely, possibility.”
Uh… I don’t agree :v
I’ll give you the i’s and maybe the capital T’s, but I think the e’s and the a’s are too different for me to really consider it a possibility. It’s hard to explain this, so I’ll try to make some Paint diagrams to exaggerate the differences to get my point across.
-The T’s are pretty similar, but Eden’s have a slight curve towards the bottom, which the other note’s T’s seem to lack. In the diagram, you’ll find the recreation of Eden’s letters to the left, and the recreation of the “kill Teruko” note’s letters on the right.
-The e’s in Eden’s handwriting have a circular head, while the other note’s is almost triangular.
-Similarly, Eden’s a’s are a bit more circular than the note’s, which are sharper and triangular.
This all leads me to believe that the dev explicitly used different fonts for the two (assuming they dev used a text writing tool and didn’t draw the notes by hand, which I feel is a reasonable assumption). When coupled with the fact that Eden could potentially have been defending Teruko in pre-prologue (unless there’s more context we’re missing, Xander wanted to kill Teruko & Eden attacked Xander -> Eden didn’t want Teruko to die), I don’t think Eden wrote that note. Sorry :v
[Eden CG]
Now this is evidence of Eden being in the same killing game as Xander (of course, assuming Xander even was in a killing game in pre-prologue in the first place, which is as of yet unconfirmed). The CG itself heavily implies Xander and Eden were in the same place when the whole eye-fork situation happened, being that Eden is the person who hurt Xander before the pre-prologue scene (pre-pre-prologue?). If that happened in a killing game, then clearly, Eden was there!
“Why would the two of them have images of their past selves wearing the exact same outfits?
Oh, wait a second.
In V3, we see Rantaro’s past self. He was wearing the same outfit that he did in the killing game. And he was a member of a past game too.
And it’s not like we haven’t seen them in other outfits. Xander has been seen in another outfit in his bonus episode.”
I mean. As I mentioned, the characters probably just frequent these outfits, given they were wearing them when they first went to Hope’s Peak. The Eden thing is a bit more notable because, unlike Xander’s which could just be from any point of Hope’s Peak time, that image has to be from the pre-prologue situation. But the idea that she was wearing that because it’s just an outfit she wears often isn’t too far fetched to me. This isn’t a point against your theory, I just don’t personally find the outfits to be the most convincing point of evidence for it.
[Eden’s secret]
“Why is this secret so mundane? (At least in comparison to the others)
Wouldn’t it make more sense to say something about what she did to Xander?
Of course, that could just be because they didn’t want her to know about something she did during the missing year.
But it could also be because it happened during the last killing game.
That one’s a stretch but I just thought I’d put it out there.”
Well, you recognize it’s a stretch, and I agree. If Eden doesn’t remember the Xander thing, then the secret which would be most effective for her would be something different, and apparently she doesn’t really have many serious secrets outside of her sexuality. Keep in mind these secrets don’t necessarily have to be the worst thing the person in question did, as stated by Veronika in 2-13.
“Why specifically these two?
Dev didn’t have to post the colored picture of Xander.
It’s clearly important.
Same for Eden.”
Also not a point for Xander imo. Dev posts a lot of stuff that isn’t necessarily important, such as the Veronico Christmas comic or the “long hair style” images. That is to say, dev posting it isn’t sufficient evidence of something’s importance, you gotta find something important in the content itself to claim that.
And even if the image is important, it could be important in a different way. There is the whole “why does someone turn their back on who they’re talking to” caption or whatever, which could for example be trying to draw a connection between David and Xander in this scene and Mai and Teruko in the 1-6 dream sequence, among other interpretations.
But that’s Xander. I will agree with you that the Eden one is important because it appears in the main series and has a clear connection to the pre-prologue, though.
“Why would he say this?
Unless he knew Teruko in the past, of course.
My guess is that Teruko was named the mastermind during his game. Whether or not she actually appeared, who knows. But she was to blame (supposedly) (to his knowledge) for the killing game. And apparently, killer her would do something important.
This ties in to the note that told Xander to kill Teruko as well!”
I would actually argue that Xander in the pre-prologue doesn’t think Teruko is the mastermind, because “ending the killing game” and “killing Teruko” are two separate goals. If you assume that killing the mastermind ends the killing game (which is a fair assumption I think), and Xander believes Teruko is the mastermind, then what he says is “I have to end the killing game. And even if I can’t do that, I have to end the killing game a different way.” Doesn’t really track does it?
But “ending the killing game” and “killing Teruko” do seem to be aligned goals, at least, so it makes sense to think that Xander believed she had some sort of involvement in it, which is sufficient for your theory I think. Of course, this is very speculative, we don’t know a lot about why exactly Xander wanted to kill the girl.
Btw, what is Teruko’s deal in your theory? Is she another “sacrifice”, a recycled mastermind or traitor of some kind, or someone who was known to the participants of the previous killing game but didn’t participate until the one seen in DRDT? I feel like that ended up a bit unclear lol.
“Who do we think were the survivors of their game?
My first guess was maybe a couple of the AltDRDT characters, but I’m not sure.”
I mean yeah, there’s kinda no one else we can really point to lol. As you said, it’s a guess, so I’m not gonna bother you about the lack of evidence, but yeah. That is a lot of survivors, though, so I’m gonna guess that if this theory is right, the survivors of the old killing game are other people who are probably unknown as of yet.
Overall, a really neat read, and a fun theory! Pretty plausible, too, at least the idea of the pre-prologue killing game and Xander and Eden (and Teruko?) being in it. I disagreed on some points, but that’s only natural with highly speculative things like this. I thought the post itself was well written with a pretty unique style, easy to understand (even if I feel some points could have used a bit more elaboration, but that might just be me), so there’s that. Hope this was enough, thanks for the ask!
#drdt#danganronpa despair time#ask#drdt theory#xander matthews#eden tobisa#this took obnoxiously long i know i’m sorry#uni’s keeping me busy T_T
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Revisiting My Original DRDT Death Predictions
If you haven't been following what's going on over at @av-multifangan, Venus and I have been posting one of our fangans, Danganronpa: One Shot. Hooray! But, more relevantly to this post, we also posted the rules to a game that we've been playing for a long time-- a game through which you can score your performance at guessing how a fangan's kill order will go after viewing only its prologue.
Said old game was also invoked when we began watching DRDT, so I thought it would be a fun trip down memory lane to see what my genuine initial predictions for the entire killing game were after viewing just a little over an hour of Despair Time content.
While all of us non-cast-and-crew members obviously don't know the entire kill order at this point, I can rest assured that these predictions, well... ain't it. But, that's part of the point! To prove that even the creators of this predictions game can be terrible at it, and that there's no shame in making a guess and then changing your mind!
... Oh boy.
SPOILERS for DRDT through the end of Chapter 2, and IMPLIED SPOILERS for SDR2 and v3!
Well, no use in dilly-dallying. Here's my predictions sheet:
(god damn why is the quality so bad--)
If you haven't read the rules of our game, I'll quickly summarize them here. You have to predict the killing game using the most standard formula: one Chapter 1 victim and killer, one Chapter 2 victim and killer, double kill in Chapter 3 with one killer, one Chapter 4 victim and killer, one Chapter 5 victim and killer, and four survivors with a "surviving" (until Chapter 6) mastermind. These roles are listed out in rainbow order (Chapter 1 death = red, Chapter 6 = purple), and victims are marked with an X while killers are circled. The survivors are circled in purple, with a cyan star on the suspected mastermind.
At the end of the game, you gain points based on how far off you were, such that a low score is good. It's +2 points for getting the role wrong (victim vs killer/mastermind vs survivor), with an additional +1 point per chapter for how far you are off from the characters' last.
Although the quality is low, hopefully you can figure out what I predicted using those instructions-- or the image ID, if it's still too tricky. And, of course, I'm going to go through all of my choices below, starting with
XANDER in the role of CHAPTER 1 VICTIM
"Accirax," you may ask. "Why are you acting so doomed about your predictions when you literally got 1/4 of the confirmed deaths correct?" Unfortunately, my friend, I was already spoiled about Xander's death before I started watching DRDT. I'm very grateful that I had no idea about the circumstances of Xander's death (AKA, him stabbing Teruko) going in. But, I think I'd seen some thumbnail somewhere of Xander's BDA and knew he was a goner.
Hence, this was a free 0 pointer for me. I'm not that cool.
ARTURO in the role of CHAPTER 1 KILLER
Now, why I thought Arturo of all people would be the one to kill Xander is beyond me. I think my rationale was that, at the time, Arturo was giving me early death vibes, and this was the only spot I could put him in?*
This is one of the predictions that I know is wrong, because the Chapter 1 killer spot has already elapsed. The best I could do now points-wise is if Arturo is the Chapter 3 killer (I'd get +2 points for being two chapters off), which is definitely still feasible! Still, I wonder now if Arturo's vibe is too obvious for being a killer, and if he would ever be willing to put ~Julia Rosales'~ life in jeopardy by attempting to escape. J certainly isn't doing herself any favors with that Felicity reveal, at least.
ROSE in the role of CHAPTER 2 VICTIM
*This is where things get... a little complicated. As I already said, I had been spoiled to the fact that Xander was the Chapter 1 victim. However... I also thought I had been spoiled to the "fact" that Rose was the Chapter 2 victim?
I really don't know how this happened. I have a distinct memory of seeing a Tumblr post containing something that sort of looked like what I imagine an Ultimate Art Forger Lab could look like(?) talking about how the characters needed to investigate to figure out who killed the Ultimate it belonged to. I thought I remembered seeing Rose's face, but this was before I had ever watched any DRDT content. So, it's possible I had the wrong fangan, or accidentally stumbled into someone's AU.
It was pretty funny looking back on my Chapter 2 viewing experience, though. When Teruko got Rose's secret, I was like, "oh, it totally makes sense that DRDTdev would give Teruko Rose's secret as a natural way to hear about Rose's backstory before she dies. Clever." And then we got to the day of the motive reveal, and Rose is there, and David says that Arei of all people is missing, and my jaw dropped. "Spoilers," indeed.
It sucked for me at the time of making this sheet, though, because Rose was, like, the only woman I got survivor vibes from (other than Teruko). But, I thought I couldn't mark her as such! Of course, Rose could be a Chapter 3 victim for all I know, meaning that being "forced" to put her in this spot could actually be good for my predictions. However, scoring 0 points on Rose is fully off the table now, which is a bummer.
DAVID in the role of CHAPTER 2 KILLER
"Why couldn't you have put Arturo as Chapter 2 killer--" I also thought I had been spoiled that David was the Chapter 2 killer. If I didn't make Arturo the first killer, the earliest I could have put him would be Chapter 3 victim, which is hardly early at all. And yes, I thought I'd been spoiled on three out of "four" of the canonical deaths when I originally watched the series. That's just my life (/lh).
At least this one is obvious to figure out why I thought it was the case. I started watching DRDT in May of 2023, about a month and a half after 2-11 dropped. Hence, I knew DRDT was on hiatus, but I was under the impression that it was a hiatus after Chapter 2 had finished. I'd also seen 2-11's thumbnail, recognized it as David, and (along with having spoilers about David's "true personality") concluded that David must be the Chapter 2 killer.
Live footage of me watching 2-11 for the first time:
"Ah, there he goes... Man, we're gonna have to wrap this murder up quick, huh? I guess that's why he's admitting to it... Haha, 'Teruko, we fucked up'... WAIT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S A HIATUS ON AN UNSOLVED MURDER?!"
I decided quickly afterwards that I no longer believed that David would be the Chapter 2 killer.
Finally, we're done with roles that already happened/that I had "spoilers" for! You'd think that would automatically make them better (because most of them, at least, have not been disproven), but there are still plenty of things that contradict what I believe will happen now, at least.
LEVI and HU in the role of CHAPTER 3 VICTIMS
Relatively, though, this one isn't that bad. Don't get me wrong, these two aren't my leading candidates for Chapter 3 victims, but I'm not actively opposed to this happening.
The idea of Levi nearly evading dying at the end of Chapter 2 only to actually become a victim in Chapter 3 is a little puzzling, but still narratively on the table, imo. So much happens in a DRDT Chapter's worth of daily life that Levi could definitely still serve enough of a narrative purpose to justify his continued survival/eventual victimhood in that Chapter. Especially if that purpose had something to do with the fact that he was injured-- for instance, if it's important for an Arturo arc of learning that he actually enjoys taking care of others, or if the killer has to exploit Levi's injuries in order to have the strength necessary to take him out.
Meanwhile, I've long held the opinion that Hu will be a big character in the Chapter 3 Daily Life by virtue of not having done a whole lot in the Chapter 1 or 2 Daily Lives-- she definitely has content, but the majority of the important stuff occurs in the Chapter 2 Trial. Currently, I'm of the opinion that that spike of content wouldn't result in a same-Chapter death, but following in the footsteps of Xander and Arei, it definitely could. Same with Levi if he's a Chapter 3 focus, honestly.
J in the role of CHAPTER 3 KILLER
I really still want to believe that J will be a killer. Why? It's because, in my opinion, Ultimate Effects Artist is a talent that is totally optimized for being a blackened, whether it actually happens or not. You know why the idea of J and Arei swapping places was so popular? Because Ultimate Effects Artist is the kind of talent you give someone if you want to pull a trick like that off!
However, all of that "murder is despicable" talk is really cramping my style. Why would J ever become a blackened after opposing the idea of murder so openly?
(It'd be pretty funny if it was all an act so that people would use that as an argument to her credit down the road.)
It's possible she could have a crisis of faith/breaking point that would change her mind, but I doubt that would occur as quickly as Chapter 3. Or result in her killing two people. Sigh.
AREI in the role of CHAPTER 4 VICTIM and EDEN in the role of CHAPTER 4 KILLER
OKAY HEAR ME OUT BEFORE YOU ACCUSE ME OF CALLING EDEN EVIL--
Chapter 4 is, oftentimes, the sacrifice chapter, right? It's a killer that makes everybody cry, because they'd never normally do something like this, but ultimately decided to kill in order to spare their friends and take the bullet themselves. I'm, like, 99% sure that's what I was imagining for Eden. Whatever the motive may be, Eden would be the small and scrawny sacrifice killer in sort of a reversal of the buff curse...
... taking out the mean bully girl that everybody hated as the victim, if she had to choose someone.
I'M SORRY I'M SORRY STOP HITTING ME WITH ROCKS-- (/j)
But yeah, I definitely remember predicting that part of the surprise of the case was that the small nerdy girl was able to take out the Ultimate athlete mean girl. I don't know how I managed to deduce that Eden and Arei would have an important relationship with one another after the prologue (in which they don't really talk at all, to my memory), yet managed to get it so horribly wrong. Predicting that Eden would kill Arei was just in my DNA, I guess, even if I originally envisioned it for a different chapter.
In the light of Ace being declared the Chapter 2 killer, this one is just embarrassingly wrong. Evidently, Eden would never stoop as low as to kill Arei. The good news for me, I suppose, is that Arei will only net me +2 points, as the role was correct (V=V) while the chapter was 2 off (4->2).
As for Eden being the Chapter 4 killer, that's not one of my top spots for her. If I had to pick, I'd probably guess either Chapter 3 victim (especially if paired with Charles Ch3 Victim, this could really knock the wind out of Teruko's sails if needed), Chapter 5 victim (allows her a long period in the story that isn't a survivor nor a killer), or just a survivor (and/or mastermind). If she were to be a killer, then maybe I'd predict Chapter 4 along the sacrifice angle? Not with Arei, though.
MIN in the role of CHAPTER 5 VICTIM
+6 points (5->1) (V->K) on Min is... not the greatest score. In fact, it's only one fewer than the general max possible character score of 7, reserved for Chapter 1 deaths mistaken as Survivors and vice versa.
I think my original prediction for Min was that she would not necessarily be Teruko's support character emotionally, but that she would be a useful aide when it came to solving the mysteries of the Class Trial. Then in Chapter 5, to force Teruko/the other innocent students to solve the high-stakes Trial on their own, she would have to disappear.
Looking back on it, I really enjoy how Teruko is far and away the best at solving the Class Trials in DRDT-- she would have already earned the title through her connections to, like, literally every character and theme in the story, but making her the principal mystery solver really hammers the idea that she should be the protagonist home. Having Min be on Team Spotless for even one Trial might have diminished that effect, so it makes sense that she became the first blackened. Girl was too powerful to live, smh.
WHIT in the role of CHAPTER 5 KILLER
Personally, I've always gotten the vibe that Whit is one of DRDTdev's Special Little Guys. Perhaps it was the way that he showed up in three character introductions-- Charles', Hu's, and his own-- that made me think he had Favorite Character Privileges. As such, even when (get ready for a truth bomb) I didn't really like Whit after watching the Prologue for the first time, I always thought he had late game energy.
(I don't know how much it really comes across from my blog, but I'm actually fairly critical of new series when I pick them up for the first time, unless I've heard many positive recommendations from friends/online personalities I admire. Other than the spoilers, I hadn't heard too much about DRDT before I started watching it, so, unaware of DRDTdev's writing skills, I was worried that Whit would essentially be a poor man's Kokichi. As someone who really likes Kokichi, that biased me against Whit. Then, of course, I actually watched the series and Whit won me over very quickly. And the rest is history :) )
I’m not really sure why I went killer over victim, other than the possible “I’m making Min the victim and therefore Whit has to be the killer.” Maybe it was that Kokichi-ness that made me think that he'd be the man behind the slaughter? ... Even if Kokichi wasn't actually the blackened in that case? It might've also been an effect of wanting him to be just that much closer to surviving, to fully break the hearts of everyone who was rooting for this Special Little Guy to survive.
Like, uh... me. Um. Well, I do genuinely currently think Whit will survive right now, so... I'm willing to take a +3 if that's true!
TERUKO in the role of MASTERMIND
Yeah, I predicted that Teruko would be the mastermind because I'm a basic bitch (/aff). Uh, I'm not being affectionate towards myself, to be clear. I'm only being affectionate to those who still hold the (fairly, I think) popular opinion that Teruko will be the mastermind of DRDT. She's a popular choice because there's a lot going for her! I still ranked her as third most likely back in my mastermind analysis!
Everyone who plays Venus' and my game is forced into the same default formula (to make comparative scoring easier), and that formula locks in the protagonist as a Chapter 6-er, because of how frequently that is the case. Even so, I feel fairly confident now that Teruko will survive until Chapter 6 anyways. The more times she says "I'm the Ultimate Lucky Student and I can't die" and then doesn't die, the weirder it would be if she suddenly did drop dead in, like, Chapter 4.
As for whether she actually is the mastermind... dude, I have no idea. Back at the time I wrote that post, I named J and Rose as my most likely candidates, but now J has gone on a whole anti-murder bend and I'm growing increasingly worried that Rose is going to be the Chapter 3 killer (probably unfounded, but still). That would leave Teruko as the most likely option, but Teruko's behavior at the end of Chapter 2 felt anti-mastermind coded to me, too, even if she forgot about it...!
We are not reviewing my mastermind theories here and now. Next!
CHARLES in the role of SURVIVOR
If you're a giant fucking nerd (/j), you might have noticed that I said I made my DRDT predictions after viewing "just a little bit over an hour of Despair Time content." However, the Prologue is under an hour. What gives?
Well, I... broke the rules of our game, actually. You're supposed to make your predictions sheet after viewing the Prologue only, but I went straight from watching the Prologue into Chapter 1 on the same day, and I forgot to make my sheet until watching Chapter 1 Episode 1. Sue me.
At any rate, I'm sure you can figure out how watching 1-1 would make me think that Charles would survive. Obviously, I knew that other characters beyond Charles would get focus in later episodes, but that still doesn't change the fact that DRDTdev chose to highlight Charles and Teruko's relationship as the first thing we saw in the first chapter of their story. Even without that extra content, though, he's also very reminiscent of Danganronpa's "Jerk" archetype, which survived in every canon DR game.
All that said... obviously, I don't think he's going to survive anymore.
I've been saying that Charles is a Chapter 3 victim-- at least since that analysis I just linked, even-- and I will probably continue to say it until proven false by the story itself. He is simply arcing too fast, and Whit needs to be confronted with that grief he prefers to ignore, no matter what his eventual placement is. We got one real Trial with Charles to prove what a smarty-pants he is, but now that he's pulled that "out of your element" card, he's off to break down into two or more simpler substances. AKA, decompose.
If he's not a Chapter 3 victim, though, Survivor is at least back on the table.
ACE in the role of SURVIVOR
Here we have it! Proof positive that I (falsely) believed that Ace would be a survivor all on my own, without taking into account anyone else's opinions! My incorrectness is mine and mine alone!!! (/j)
So, yeah. Funny coward man go brrrr and character arc into survival, except then he didn't. I have to imagine that's the basic premise behind why so many people believed that Ace would survive. I don't really have much to say about this choice beyond that.
I don't like that I'm already tanking another +6 points (S->K) (6->2) from Ace, though. Save me Xander-zero-point spoilers, you're my only hope.
VERONIKA in the role of SURVIVOR
Whaaaaaaaat was I cooking here?
I guess I kind of remember. I think I was imagining Veronika along the lines of a poor man's Sonia (like I said, critical) due to her more apologetic attitude towards rambling and presenting others with horror concepts in the Prologue. With my prediction that Whit would die in Chapter 5, I guess I might've also been thinking that Veronika could then fill in that "comic relief" void in his absence? I also had Ace there, though. Moot point; every DRDT character has the capacity to be hilarious.
There are a lot of places I could see Veronika landing in this killing game, but survivor really isn't one of them. I could see Veronika as a Chapter 3 victim or killer for The Vibes, Chapter 5 victim or killer if she takes on more of a main antagonist role, or Mastermind also for The Vibes. But survivor is just... odd. At least from this point in the story, what business does the "fangirling over acevi dying" girl have taking up one of those coveted survivor slots? Surely either someone would think to kill her or she would decide to kill before four more chapters elapse!
That being said, locking in Veronika as a late game character isn't terrible in my eyes. Being "barred" from making Rose a survivor, I remember that Veronika was the girl who I initially got the second most late game energy from. Those Chapter 5 or Mastermind scenarios won't score terribly here if they come to pass.
NICO in the role of SURVIVOR
I want to mention here that, despite my other spoilers, I did not know that Nico was nonbinary going into Despair Time. Therefore, I didn't make Nico a survivor under the premise of "I'll have two girls, two boys, and one enby survive!" I don't really remember why I did make Nico a survivor, though.
My best guess is that I put them there for cast composition purposes. From the Prologue, all of Charles, Ace, and Veronika are pretty over-the-top in their own ways: Charles is overly condescending, Ace is really loud, and Veronika is an exaggerated fangirl. Adding in a quieter character like Nico would have been a nice way balance to the others... or at least, so I thought with only the Prologue to go off of. Now I know that Ace and Nico surviving together was incredibly unlikely to be the case.
Speaking of Ace, now that he's dead (and therefore can't be a survivor), my opinions of whether Nico could survive have definitely gone up. However, I still don't think that Nico surviving is particularly likely.
There's definitely potential for redemptive survivors in DRDT with the "fighting your fate" theme they seem to be setting up. But, I think that's more likely to play out with someone who might have committed murder before the killing game (like Levi) or someone who did terrible things, but never went so far as to physically attempt another student's murder (like David), than someone who actually attacked someone else and nearly succeeded. For media in general, I think it's much easier for audiences to forgive something that happened off-screen and/or to characters that barely exist than something that we saw visible evidence of on a character who many people adore. Nico's attempted murder just seems like a big hurdle to overcome on their path to survival, dude.
That being said, I've written before that for both in-universe and meta reasons, I don't think we'll ever see Nico as a blackened, which already eliminates, like, half of my options moving forward. Logically, that would conclude that if I don't think that Nico will become a victim, then they're likely to survive. I do (currently) think that Nico will probably be a victim sometime in the future, even if I'm not certain in which chapter. For the sake of my score on Nico specifically, I guess I'm rooting for Chapter 5. I already know that they wouldn't be robbing Min of a perfect zero, at least.
And that's my tally so far, a total of 14 points out of a possible... well, I actually don't know what the highest possible score is, both because math is hard and because I don't know what bonus rules, if any, will come into play in DRDT's future. It's 14 points across 4 characters, which comes out to an average of 3.5 points per character.
Comparatively, most of our game sheets have come out somewhere in the high-30 to mid-40 points range (predicting is hard). Across 16 characters, means that it's usually an average of, like, 3 points per character. So, I'm doing worse than usual, but not by a whole lot...!
But, how well I do isn't what matters. The important thing is that I had fun while making it, and got to think about what patterns and possibilities can arise when you look at the basic facts of a character's simplified personality and talent in time with their role in the story!
So if you want to have fun making a predictions sheet like this of your own, you should totally go read Danganronpa: One Shot's Prologue (before Chapter 1 starts airing on Friday) over at @av-multifangan and fill out that game's prediction sheet. That would mean that this shameful shameless attempt at cross-promotion would have succeeded at one of its desired effects! Or, if that's not your cup of tea, you could also fill out a predictions sheet for DRDT moving forward, and just acknowledge that Xander, Min, Arei, and Ace were placed after the fact. Who knows, maybe I'll make a sheet like that too, so we can compare.
Thanks for walking down memory lane with me, and I hope to be back with more DRDT content soon!
#danganronpa despair time#drdt#drdt spoilers#fanganronpa#teruko tawaki#xander matthews#charles cuevas#arei nageishi#ace markey#rose lacroix#hu jing#eden tobisa#levi fontana#arturo giles#min jeung#david chiem#veronika grebenshchikova#j rosales#whit young#nico hakobyan#to be clear i did think that this would be a fun post to make even without the ulterior motive of trying to convince you to predict one sho#and i was correct about that from my end; but hopefully it was a fun post for you to read as well :)#also please know that the entire tone of this post is casual/teasing#so if you believe in anything that i said was “likely incorrect” in this post know that i totally respect your opinion#1) i'm not actually any more likely to be able to predict what happens in drdt than you are and#2) i was also trying to be extra critical of myself in this post in an attempt to heighten its comedy. again hopefully this also worked#i am Working on that david analysis if you're reading this anon but there's actually another mini(?) theory related to that#which i want to do first so hhhhhh. the delay continues. sorry#does this post count as a theory? i guess it has some theories in it so#my theories
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Can I request general hcs for Ryoma Hoshi? If not, then Shuichi Saiahra?
(Feel free to ignore this)
I can do Shuichi, yeah! I tried to keep this as spoiler free as I could, but just in case, I suggest before you read this you've atleast seen Chapter 1 until the end.
I hope I got his character right!
Yandere! Shuichi Saihara Concept
Pairing: Romantic
Possible Trigger Warnings: Gender-Neutral Darling, Clingy behavior, Manipulation, Implied intimacy, Dubious relationship, Touch starved Shuichi, Isolation mention, Implied stalking, Confidence issues, Trust issues, Delusional behavior.
Shuichi shows at least two, maybe three different personalities throughout the game.
The one before Kaede's death, the one after, and pregame if you want to count that one.
However, this concept will focus on Pre/Post Kaede death.
You most likely met Shuichi before the first class trial.
At this point Shuichi is shy, easily nervous, and doesn't have a lot of confidence in his situation.
Kaede is most likely the bridge between you until he has some confidence of his own.
The bubbly girl makes you three a trio throughout your first few days in this isolated hell of yours.
Shuichi trusts you and sees you as an ally and friend.
You'll find he flusters quickly and blushes whenever he talks with you.
He doesn't necessarily have feelings yet but it does happen a lot around you.
Kaede probably makes small jabs at him about his staring and blushing around you.
This does not help him compose himself in the slightest.
Shuichi's attraction is subtle until after the first class trial.
Many are a mess after Kaede's death, including you and Shuichi.
Although, her death brings you two closer.
No longer a trio, instead a duo, you two help console each other.
This helps solidify Shuichi's festering feelings about you.
Even when you two hang around with Kaito or Kokichi, Shuichi still finds himself the closest with you.
Shuichi is Clingy, Manipulative, Loyal, Delusional and very dependent when it comes to his darling for the most part.
It's said Shuichi is shy about romance, but he takes it very seriously.
He trusts his darling with his life.
He also trusts you to be loyal like him, yet his lack of confidence makes him scared you'll like someone else.
Shuichi is also a bit submissive towards his darling.
He likes your touch and feels safe around you....
Shuichi gets incredibly defensive when people bring up his obsession.
He isn't a creep, he swears!
Shuichi tries to convince himself his obsession over you is normal considering the situation.
He just... wants to fulfill Kaede's promise with you.
That's why he follows you everywhere-
Plus he just seems like himself when around you.
He visits your room often, walks with you everywhere, he's just happy to be with you.
He'd be so flustered at physical contact at first.
So if you like to hug, he'll freeze before giving into it.
He gets better the more it happens.
He loves your hugs, your warmth is the most comforting thing in this place.
There's times you'll barely get alone time as Shuichi acts like he's scared to leave you alone.
He would be lying if he said he trusted everyone around you-
Shuichi himself is a liar at times, which makes him manipulative.
V3 brings in the mechanic of lies into Danganronpa.
A lot of the V3 cast would lie to encourage you to do something.
Shuichi does it just to keep you beside him.
He hates being so cautious about everyone...
Although one slip up and he may lose you forever.
Better safe than sorry.
Shuichi promises to you, truthful as always, that he'll never let anyone harm you.
Kaede would want him to look after you while she's gone... he knows it.
Shuichi would probably stutter and lose a lot of his confidence if you ever asked him to go to the love hotel.
He wants to... he really does...
He just needs time to prepare-
Shuichi seems like the type of yandere to do whatever he can to show he loves you.
He's dedicated, but not deranged enough to kill someone out of jealousy or kidnap fully.
He may try to convince you to stay in his room for long periods of time, however.
Isolation would probably be up his alley if he was able to.
Shuichi would be so sloppy when it comes to affection.
He's so nervous when it comes to hugs and kisses.
Your touch just feels so good, though...
Touch starved. Shuichi definitely feels like the touch starved type.
While Shuichi gains confidence, he'd still probably want his darling to say he's theirs.
Shuichi wants nothing more than to have his darling be his, and him be yours.
You could use him however you wish, he doesn't care, he loves and trusts you almost blindly with his obsession.
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does he have autism and ptsd?
submit your own characters here to be featured!
reasons below the cut - contains spoilers
reason: He has SOMETHING, I listed general options because I'm not sure. For autism, he's really into anthropology and finds a way to mention it in any way possible, I also relate to how he speaks and explains things if that makes sense. He's all bandaged up which could be sensory or just a general scar insecurity, we don't know.
I don't even know what his "sister possession" could be, and I don't want to be ignorant so I won't put a name I don't know to it. Maybe PTSD/Trauma related, because he's pretty implied to have been groomed by his sister.
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Best BFF Brawl: Round 1| Match 6B
Propaganda Beneath the Cut
Kaede and Shuichi (Danganronpa V3)
Just look at them <33 They balance each other out, a real sunshine and moonlight duo dynamic! He has big self-esteem issues and she thinks she's being too much of a hassle when she infodumps about her interests. They relive each other of their worries and rely on each other for support!
he's so kind and understanding and he cares for his friends deeply and he's literally the sweetest guy i've ever seen
he's so special to me,,, the blorbo,,, he's so cute and seeing him grow over the course of the game was just so heartwarming!!!! i could talk about him all DAY. his blushing sprites are very cute btw :3 he's the scrunkly ever. he's also bi and while kaede is shown as a love interest for him (but i don't like that ship) he can also show attraction to kaito but i won't say when because implied spoilers
Mordecai and Rigby
the ideal best friends. like they mess with each other and care for each other and while they do have their shortcomings sometimes, they always make it up to each other
#Danganronpa v3#mordecai regular show#rigby regular show#regular show#kaede akamatsu#suichi saihara#polls#tumblr polls#best bff brawl#round 1
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Since it's rarepair week...
cups/when i’m gone - leobuki animatic ⚾️ 🎸
NaeCeles.mp4
Better Boyfriend - animation meme // Implied PG. Oumatsu & Saiouma also implied
You keep buying stars. ✦ Hajime Hinata + Natsumi Kuzuryuu
Le bien qui fait mal ~ Kokichi x Maki
HUG ME - (KuzuSouda) Super DanganRonpa 2 animation meme
Ougoku edit/animash || jealous (ndrv3 spoilers)
Ougoku edit/animash || Bernadette (ndrv3 spoilers)
preoccupied with your past - naezono
Partners in crime || Ouma-Gonta ᵐ��ᵖ ᵖᵃʳᵗ
-SKY FALL- DANGANRONPA V3 = Gonta and Kokichi = CHAPTER 4!! Spoiler!! ART NOT MINE!!!
celesgiri︱dynasty
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony - Miu Iruma, Kokichi Ouma (Парное азия дефиле) - That Fest 2023
KISS OR KILL [DANGANRONPA ANIMATIC]
Leon and Ibuki Singing Together... [Danganronpa FLIPACLIP Animation!]
ℓєσѕαуα | нσℓℓσω яєρυтαтισηѕ
♥MOMOSAI♥ Moon ~ Jin [DANGANRONPA]
[loop] brighter than space. || saimota/momohara
saimota; forget him. // hbd manu
My part for the Partners In Crime MEP || Syomaru edit
NDRV3 GMV || Shelter [Kaito Momota]
Alejandro | Hinamiki and Komahina | MEP Parts 5 and 6
VIDEOGAMES
Hinamiki - E.V.O.L.
Carve A Name // Part 5 (Syomaru)
Buttercup // Part 10 (Syomaru)
#ndrv3#goodbye despair#trigger happy havoc#ultra despair girls#pregame#leobuki#leosaya#hinamiki#saimota#irouma#ougoku#kuzusouda#oumatsu#naeceles#hinatsumi#syomaru#musings from the music manager
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So.
Time to talk Stranger Than Fiction and Karen Eiffel and Danganronpa V3 and Tsumugi Shirogane.
Most of you have probably DRV3 spoilers, but you probably DON'T have STF spoilers, so if you haven't seen it, go see the movie and then come back because we're talking end of the movie twist spoilers, mmk?
So let's talk Stranger Than Fiction.
Stranger Than Fiction is about a man - Harold Crick - who suddenly begins to hear a woman's voice narrating his life. This is not so bad, until the woman says that something he did would soon lead to his death.
It's about the literature analysis of tragedy (Harold finds a literature professor to help him find the author writing him).
It's about a woman who is famous for writing ironic, heartbreaking tragedies (one of her protagonists was a teacher who died from a heart attack in a traffic jam on the first day of summer break; that sort of thing) but who cannot figure out how to kill her newest protagonist, Harold Crick.
And this all sounds very heavy, but Harold Crick is played by Will Ferrell and the professor is played by Dustin Hoffman and Karen Eiffel - the author - is played by Emma Thompson and her assistant is played by Queen Latifah and it is honestly a fantastic movie that deals with this stuff in an extremely humorous way. (And not like most Will Ferrell comedies which I refuse to see. This is not that kind of comedy.)
But it does come to a point where Harold Crick finds Karen Eiffel (through the power of being an IRS agent), and she is confronted with the fact that every character she has ever written is a real person. Her assistant gives Harold the manuscript - Karen had just figured out how to end it, how he was going to die, but she hasn't written it yet, just cliffnotes, and she doesn't know if that even counts or not - so that he can read it.
And while he's gone, Karen has this moment of "I killed all those people. All those wonderful people. And I just killed them. At the worst possible time, I killed them."
Because it is one thing to write a book and characters and it is a whole other thing to find out that those people are real and that you have that kind of power over their lives.
Harold reads the book and decides to let the ending stand because the book is beautiful and it's the right ending and he's willing to die - to sacrifice - because that's the proper ending.
And we, the viewer, see the death. See Karen writing the death.
See Karen break down over writing the death. Because she's killing someone. It doesn't matter that she's just writing a book; she's actually killing someone.
And then we cut to Harold being in the hospital with all of the broken bones and everything and actually he's not dead because Karen couldn't do it. She just couldn't do it. And when asked why, she says that Harold was willing to lay down his life for that, and "Isn't that the sort of person you want to keep around?"
But in the end, confronted with the fact of what she'd been unknowingly doing, Karen couldn't do it. Because Harold stopped being a fictional character the moment he became a real person.
And this is kind of the inverse of what we see in DRV3.
For Tsumugi, these people stop being people the moment they become fictional characters (and if she's been doing this for as long as it's implied she's being doing it, that makes sense).
But also - from the interviews we've seen - these people aren't Harold Crick. They're people who want to join to do murder, they're people who want to join because they've lost faith in humanity, they're people who don't understand that the premise of "the murder game is bad" is that "the murder game is bad".
And Tsumugi goes through who knows how many of these auditions every season.
Tsumugi looks at what probably, to her, feels like scum after a while (because she's hearing about all the ways these people want to kill other people probably, all the things they've thought of, and how excited they are to murder) and thinks, I will make you better.
It goes back to 3-2 - what value is a human life?
Kaito says that all lives have equal value, even the bad ones, and he sticks to that. Given the opportunity, he doesn't shoot to kill Kokichi and probably wouldn't. Because despite everything, Kokichi's life is still valuable to him. So is Maki's. So is everyone else's.
But this is only true because Tsumugi wrote a character who believed these things and was these things and had that character overwrite the very real human being who came before him who just wanted to jump in and kill someone. Who clearly thought exactly none of that.
Tsumugi takes lives that she sees have little value and writes them new lives that usually have more value because the cases and the storylines and everything say something. Mean something. To someone.
And yes, you can make the argument that Kiyo sucks, but let me tell you, despite the ending of 3-3, he is somehow still Lucah's favorite, so like. Every character has someone who loves them. Every character has a point and a purpose. And every story builds on those characters to make a point about hope - and usually about a lot of other things besides.
Tsumugi isn't right by any means. That's not what I'm saying.
But Tsumugi does the thing that Harold Crick would have let Karen Eiffel do.
She takes people who are willing to die to make a fantastic story.
And it's such. an interesting reversal and parallel. Because Tsumugi goes into it accepting this is what is going to happen. Karen Eiffel realizes and can't do it anymore.
(But Karen's character submits; Tsumugi's characters don't, even if the people behind them did.)
#musings#danganronpa#tsumugi shirogane#stranger than fiction#karen eiffel#i just#i continue to have lots of thoughts with tsumugi#hm
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