#imperium augustus

[theantonian]

"For Rome, who had never consented to fear any nation or people, did in her time fear two human beings: one was Hannibal and the other was a woman."

~ W. W. Tarn, Cambridge Ancient History

Anna Valle as Cleopatra in Imperium: Augustus (2003)

[marcusagrippa]

sincerely sorry for the continued imperiumposting but i can't get over this

[myfavoritepeterotoole]

Peter O'Toole and Sergio Ercolessi on the set of Imperium: Augustus

Imperium: Augustus (2003) (Also Known As: Augustus) directed by Roger Young

Peter O'Toole as Augustus Caesar

* Sergio Ercolessi: first assistant director

[domitiaa]

AUGUSTUS AND LIVIA

"Goodbye, Livia, never forget our wedding."

I, Claudius (1976) - Brian Blessed/Siân Phillips

Imperium: Augustus (2001) - Benjamin Sadler/Martina Stella

Rome (2005 - 2007) - Simon Wood/Alice Henley

Domina (2021 - 2023) - Matthew McNulty/Kasia Smutniak 

[wolframpant]

16 November: Emperor Tiberius was born in 42 BC. Here are some of his portrayals on screen:

André Morell in The Caesars (1968) George Baker in I, Claudius (1976) Peter O'Toole in Caligula (1979) James Mason in AD (1985) Michele Bevilacqua in Imperium: Augustus (2003) Max von Sydow in The Final Inquiry (2006) Giovanni Carta in Barbarians (2020) Benjamin Isaac in Domina (2021)

[saehaerys]

Instrument of Your Father's Will

"Have I ever been anything but an instrument to fulfill your destiny!"

- Julia the Elder to Augustus, Imperium: Augustus

"Ha, Freche du! Frevelst du midi? Wer bist du, als meines Willens blind wählende Kür?"

- Wotan to Brünnhilde, Der Ring des Nibelungen

"Princess Saera watched from the window of her cell. Jonquil Darke, her gaoler, made certain that she did not turn away."

- Fire & Blood

[stcantarella]

can anyone else see this... i feel crazy

[meditando-en-paris]

My friend (@helldava): You may leave the Teutoburg forest, but the Teutoburg forest does not leave you.

Me: You don't come out of the Teutoburg forest, my friend.

[intriguingpeoplebyangelafloyd]

AUGUSTUS

Imperium: Augustus

2003

            Imperium: Augustus is a British-Italian historic film which is part of the Imperium series. The film focuses on Ancient Rome and the life of Octavian and how he became Augustus. The film focuses on his youth as well as his later life. The film stars Peter O’Toole as Augustus and Charlotte Rampling as Livia. It was filmed in Tunisia, Africa.

#augustus #imperiumaugustus #imperiumseries #ancientrome #peterotoole

[sforzesco]

behold, the self cannibalizing bloated corpse of Rome and Empire

The Oxford History of Byzantium, ed. Cyril Magno

Blood in the Arena: the Spectacle of Roman Power, Alison Futrell

[forgottnseccnd]

I am unsure about something, are you aware of Horus’ actions after you “died”?

Aurelius went quiet at that. Auramite hands pressed together. He shifted uneasily.

" ... despite my excommunication, I still tried to fight for the Imperium even if erased from records and considered a traitor. I... had seen things, through my divination as the days of what would occur grew closer. "

" I just wished I could have done something. And kept the family together, somehow. Why... why do you ask, stranger? "

[theantonian]

IULLUS ANTONIUS: Antony's only surviving son

He was the son of the Triumvir Mark Antony and his second wife Fulvia Flacca Bambula.

He was raised in his father's divorced wife Octavia's household after he was orphaned when his father committed suicide following his defeat at the battle of Actium in 30 BC.

Iullus was to leave for Alexandria along with this elder brother Marcus Antonius Antyllus according to their father's wishes sometime in 34 BC, but for reasons unknown, his stepmother Octavia only sent Antyllus and kept him with her.

Named after Julius Caesar by his father, Iullus married his stepsister Claudia Marcella Major after her divorce from Agrippa in 21 BC. He became praetor in 13 BC, consul in 10 BC and Asian proconsul in 7 BC and was said to be highly regarded by Augustus. He is mentioned by Horace in his own poetry where he speaks of an occasion when Iullus intended to write a higher kind of poetry praising Augustus for his alleged success in Gaul. Iullus was a poet and is credited with having written twelve volumes of poetry on Diomedia sometime before 13 BC, which were destroyed after his death.

Although when it began is unsure, Iullus became a lover of Julia the Elder. Marcus Agrippa died in 12 BC and Julia had been forced to remarry her stepbrother, Tiberius. Julia's marriage to her stepbrother had become a disaster and she was desperate to divorce him. Tiberius had left Rome in 8 BC leaving Julia and her five children by Agrippa, Gaius Caesar, Lucius Caesar, Julia the Younger, Agrippina the Elder, and Agrippa Postumus, in Rome. Julia felt that her children were unprotected and may have approached Iullus to be a protector for her children, especially her two elder sons, Gaius Caesar and Lucius Caesar, who were Augustus' joint heirs.

Tacitus censures Augustus in “calling, as he did, a vice so habitual among men and women by the awful name of sacrilege and treason, he went far beyond the indulgent spirit of our ancestors, beyond indeed his own legislation.”

In the telling of Cassius Dio:

when [Augustus] at length discovered that his daughter Julia was so dissolute in her conduct as actually to take part in revels and drinking bouts at night in the Forum and on the very rostra, he became exceedingly angry. He had surmised even before this time that she was not leading a straight life but refused to believe it. For those who hold positions of command, it appears, are acquainted with everything else better than with their own affairs; and although their own deeds do not escape the knowledge of their associates, they have no precise information regarding what their associates do. In the present instance, when Augustus learned what was going on, he gave way to a rage so violent that he could not keep the matter to himself but went so far as to communicate it to senate. As a result, Julia was banished to the island of Pandateria, lying off Campania, and her mother Scribonia voluntarily accompanied her. Of the men who had enjoyed her favours, Iullus Antonius, on the ground that his conduct had been prompted by designs upon the monarchy, was put to death along with other prominent persons, while the remainder were banished to islands. And since there was a tribune among them, he was not tried until he had completed his term of office. As a result of this affair many other women, too, were accused of similar behaviour, but the emperor would not entertain all the suits; instead, he set a definite date as a limit and forbade all prying into what had occurred previous to that time. For although in the case of his daughter he would show no mercy, remarking that he would rather have been Phoebe’s father than hers, he nevertheless was disposed to spare the rest. This Phoebe had been a freedwoman of Julia’s and her accomplice and had voluntarily taken her own life before she could be punished. It was for this that Augustus praised her.

Both contemporary and modern historians have suggested Iullus had designs upon the monarchy and wanted to marry Julia before her children Gaius and Lucius came of age possibly to form some sort of regency. Although no substantial evidence was ever provided by Augustus for such a claim. It is possible that she planned to divorce Tiberius and make Iullus Antonius protector of her sons.

The scandal finally broke in 2 BC, Augustus took action on his daughter Julia's alleged promiscuity. Iullus was exposed as her prominent lover. The other men accused of adultery with Julia were exiled but Iullus was not so lucky. He was charged with treason and sentenced to death. He was either executed or according to Velleius Paterculus, died by his own hand rather than be humiliated by execution.

He had at least 3 children with Claudia Marcella, namely Iullus Antonius, Lucius Antonius and Iulla Antonia.

Image: Juan Diego Botto as Iullus Antonius in Imperium: Augustus

[marcusagrippa]

him apples btw

[uncleclaudius]

The Lyon Tablet, a transcript of the speech Emperor Claudius had given in the Senate in 48 AD, arguing for the admission of senators from Gaul.

1. I should say at the outset that I reject the first thought that will, I am sure, be the very first thing to stand in my way: namely that you will recoil from my suggestion as though I were introducing some revolutionary innovation.  Think, instead, of how many changes have taken place over the years in this state and how many forms and constitutions our state has had, from the time of its very foundation.

2. At one time this city was held by kings, though they did not pass it along to successors from their own families. People from other families came to the throne and even some foreigners.  Numa, for example, succeded Romulus, and was a Sabine; that made him a neighbor, certainly, but at the time he was also a foreigner. Another example is Tarquinius Priscus, who succeded Ancus Marcius: because of his impure blood--his father was the Corinthian Demaratus and his mother was from Tarquinii, to Tarquinius Priscus supposedly had a Greek father and an Etruscan mother. And though well-born she was very poor, which is why she was forced to marry such a husband.--Tarquinius was kept from positions of honor in his own land and thus emigrated to Rome, where he became king.  Between Tarquinius and either his son or his grandson (for our authorities disagree on this point) there came Servius Tullius.  And according to the Roman sources Servius Tullius had as a mother a prisoner of war, Ocresia; according to the Etruscans he had been the faithful companion of Caelius Vivenna and took part in his adventures, and later, when he was driven out by a change of fortune, he left Etruria with all the suriving troops of Caelius and seized the Caeliian hill, which thus takes its name from his leader Caelius, and after changing his name (for his Etruscan name was Mastarna) he was given the name I have already mentioned, and became king, to the very great advantage of the state. Then, after the behavior of Tarquinius Superbus came to be hated by our city--and not only his behavior but that of his sons--the people obviously became tired of monarchy, and the administration of state was transferred to the consuls, who were annual magistates.

3. Why need I mention the dictatorship--more powerful even than the consulship--which was what our ancestors came up with when wars were particularly hard or there was serious civil disturbance?  Or why need I mention the the creation of tribunes of the plebs, to provide assistance for the plebs?  Why mention transfer of imperium from consuls to the decemviri, and at the end of the reign of the decemviri the return of imperium back to the consuls?  Why mention the distribution of the consular power to multiple recipients, called tribunes of the soldiers with consular power, who were first six and then eight in number?  Why should I mention the fact that offices that were once patrician ones were shared eventually with the plebeians, religious ones as well as military?

4. If I were to tell of the wars, which our ancestors started with and which have continued down to the present day, I fear that I would appear too boastful, and look as though I wanted to boast about my glory in extending the empire beyond the Ocean.  But let me instead return to my original point.  Citizenship can ... [some text is lost here]

[column II]

5. Certainly it was a new thing when my great-uncle Augustus and my uncle Tiberius decided to admit into this Senate house the flower of the coloniae and the cities from all over the empire--all of them good and wealthy men of course.  But, you may say, is not an Italian senator more useful than a provincial one?  When I start explaining this aspect of my censorship I will reveal what I think about that.   But certainly I  think that provincials should not be rejected, as long as they will be a credit to the Senate.

6. Behold that most glorious and flourishing colony of Vienne: how long has it provided senators for this chamber?  From Vienne comes an ornament of the equestrian order with few equals, Lucius Vestinus, whom I esteem greatly and retain even now in my service.   May his children, I beseech you, enjoy priesthoods of the first rank, and after that, in the years to come, may they proceed to further honors.  (I will not utter the dire name of that brigand—I detest him, that monster of the wrestling-ring—or the fact that he acquired the consulship for his family before his colony had ever obtained the solid benefit of the Roman citizenship.  And I could say the same thing about his brother, who suffered a pathetic and fate, and was thus no use to you as a senator.)

7. It is time now, Tiberius Caesar Germanicus, to reveal to the senators where your speech is headed; for you have already come to the extreme limits of Gallia Narbonensis.

8. Consider all the distinguished young men I see before me: the fact that they are senators should cause no more regret than that felt by Persicus--a most distinguished man and a friend of mine--when he reads the name Allobrogicus among the images of his ancestors.  And if you agree that this is true, what should I not also point out to you that the land beyond Gallia Narbonensis already sends you senators?  We do not, after all, regret that we have men in the senate from Lugdunum.

9. I was somewhat hesitant, senators, about leaving the boundaries of provinces that were well known to you, but now I must make the case for Gallia Comata with some seriousness.  If anyone concentrates on the fact that the Gauls resisted the divine Julius in war for ten years, he should consider that they have also been loyal and trustworthy for a hundred years, and had this loyalty tried to the utmost when we were in danger.  They it was who provided my father Drusus with secure internal peace when he was conquering Germany, even though he was summoned to the war while in the middle of a census, which was then a new and strange business for the Gauls.  And we know from our own experience how difficult the census can be, even though for us it involves nothing more than the public recording of our resources. (tr. E. M. Smallwood)

[forgottnseccnd]

" Well, I understand I am not exactly your second sibling. I will admit, I have been... getting mixed up recently. " He furrowed his brows, though with what Roboute continued to speak upon, Aurelius simply sighed. " I am excommunicated, and I have nothing to my name. At this rate... well, there wouldn't exactly be much for me to be concerned over. "

Though, the attempts to fish for information were unfortunately caught by Aurelius. It was the way he continued to ask for him to elaborate after his warning that left the second Primarch frowning. Brows rose at Roboute as if in amusement... and he even chuckled, breaking his stoicism for once.

" You make me laugh..! You warn me one sentence and then start pressing me for information the next. While I still wish to help the Imperium, you make it a little bit tough with that sort of behavior... " Aurelius glanced away, his helmet hiding the uncharacteristically large grin at this fact now as he crossed his arms. He didn't care who knew he had AI-- at this rate, let the whole damn world know. He didn't have anything left to lose anymore, save for his own techpriest and dear friend, but if this would be how things were going to be done... he didn't exactly plan on making it easy.

" I would have offered a helping hand were you a bit more truthful about it. I know that artificial intelligence is considered highly illegal, and I know that there could be all sorts of things that could be recording my voice at any moment... people could take advantage of such a thing. " As if instinctively, his eyes flicked to Cawl, but returned to Roboute not long after.

" I will not elaborate. All you shall know is that I hold the technology and have ideas. "

" I value truth and honor, Guilliman, and it is something that everyone seemed to have lacked since the beginning. I thought you were better than most. "

" Brother, hypothetically speaking, what if it was proven artificial intelligence was far more efficient than servitorization? "

// @forgottnseccnd... im so sorry robu you must deal with this shitlord

Roboute and Cawl look at each other with perfectly practiced pokerfaces. Then back to Aurelius.

"Can you ensure that the software would never be corrupted by chaos? Or that if it is, it's easy to eliminate?" Roboute asked calmly, letting no emotion seep into his aura while Cawl subtly stabbed him in the back with chemicals that would prevent him from sweating and releasing hormones and pheromones. They could not risk giving any indication of what they had.

[catilinas]

I just finished reading the Masters of Rome series and all of Mary Renault's books set in ancient Greece, the Alexander trilogy, and the Theseus duology, and a few by Valerio Massimo Manfredi. Do you have any recommendations for similar books or series that you've enjoyed?

i think i've answered something similar about historical fiction somewhere in /tagged/book list so i will tag this post w that so you can maybe find a more detailed answer. but. yeah here is some!

the cicero trilogy (imperium, lustrum, dictator) by robert harris <- cicero is there. if you got Really into masters of rome you might get pissed off at some of the oversimplification of politics but the cicero characterisation is Really good and also they are Fun

roma sub rosa series by steven saylor <- roman republic detective novels that turned me into The catilina apologist i am today + there are a LOT of them + yes the major historical ficgures are cool but you Will get invested in this fictional detective's wild family drama

rome trilogy?? (the key, the lock, the door in the wall) by benita kane jaro <- do it for him (caelius the world's most unreliable narrator)

augustus by john williams <- epistolary novel about Him composed of made up sources. fun.

the ides of march by thornton wilder <- also in epistolary format but with wild timeline shenanigans? i enjoyed it

dancing with the lion series by jeanne reames <- about the early life of alexander the great + they are just so detailed + i read the first book in one (1) day

the golden mean by annabel lyon <- i have not actually read this but it's been on my tbr for like one million years. about aristotle and alexander the great and maybe i will get round to it this year :/

lavinia by ursula k. le guin <- i think this is the most similar to the theseus duology in occupying a fictional space between myth and history. if that makes sense. i also read it in one (1) day

mutuals if you have any other historical fiction recommendations hi hello eye emoji ?