#ili

[alkistisnetwide]

People who self-type with rare and "coveted" labels, such as: INFJs, INTJs, 5s, 4s, IEIs, ILIs, Ns by extension

Let me ask, to what extent would your self-worth differ if you concluded you were mistyped?

To what extent would your self-worth change if you found typology to be a false idea?

Back when I believed socionics was the answer to everything at 15, I was negatively affected by that interest. I questioned things about myself because I seemed to have traits that didn't fit my EII (INFP,INFj) type, but I settled on it eitherway because of my focus on morality. It didn't help how little self esteem I had to be of the least impressive of the 4 "intelligent" types. Even worse, socionics changed how I saw others. I believed others lacked moral values and intelligence, thought in a manner inconceivable to me and would fundamentally be bad company for me

The enneagram had me constantly questioning every aspect of my behavior in order to affirm that I was indeed a 5w4

If you are invested in personality typing, I think you should consider the influence of your emotions on your investment and take a short break. People who are no longer certain about these systems, it might be useful to share your opinion of them in retrospect

[yppngmtt]

WWP 8: "tail"

drew me n @ilinoxiluxi's sonas again 4 this one! the colors were tripping me up a LOT but i finally settled on just turning the gradient map opacity down n tweaking the bg color for a bit

[xxcalicofemmexx]

intersex 4 intersex + flag colors

flag credit: @arco-pluris

Intersex 4 Intersex: An intersex person who is exclusively attracted to other intersex people; An intersex person who emphasizes or prioritizes their attraction and relationships with other intersex people. A celebration of intersex love. This preference usually stems from issues of safety, trauma, oppression, and/or various personal reasons. Also known as ILI (Intersex Loving Intersex), and phanian

[deafsnake]

Себастиан

Первый арт к подборке: «Бальзаки, ч.1»

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[babacomic]

COMIC 100

I keep calling it the finale, but there's probably more to come after this! It took forever, but I hope it's been worth the wait!

comic 100, part 1

comic 100, part 2

comic 100, part 3

transcript in the alt text

[phlve]

Sociotype Profiles — ILI

Ego

Leading Ni

The ILI is disposed towards inner reflections on the flow of events. Detaching from trivial concerns, ILIs turn their attention to the more important and far-reaching matters of life. Penetrating the misty vestiges of the past and future through depth of imagination, ILIs tend to synthesise for themselves a profoundly realist, neutral world view that can be perceived as 'bleak' or 'gloomy' by others. Such a world view is frequently in the form of a singular eventuality that current events will head towards given certain variables. For them, the present is only important in so much as it is the midway point between what has happened and what will happen, and that sometimes actions can be undertaken to change or alter that interaction, usually in the form of preventing stupidity that might lead to disaster later on. Often what is completely obvious to the ILI makes very little sense to anyone else and they may be frustrated that other people are too dense to see the issues so clear to them. Frequently, ILIs may feel that they have a responsibility to inform people of these dangers, especially if they may affect the world at large. As such, ILIs regularly come across as critics and augurs for the consequences of foolishness, although their risk aversion may also mean that they do not deign to get involved, in case they are also pulled in to drown.

Creative Te

ILIs tend to be rather well-read. Regularly informing their perception of events is a wealth of useful and relevant information, often historical, mystical or arcane, that they tend to slowly accumulate over time. However, ILIs do not merely take in the facts to apply them, but undergo a long rumination process, picking out patterns and trends that they see as carrying particular temporal weight and thinking these through until they have an idea on what they mean for the long term. Such information they can usually recall well and use to back up any points or musings they might come up with. Furthermore, should there be a long term outcome that an ILI deems as favourable, or one that they particularly wish to avoid, the ILI can plan out the processes by which these outcomes can be reached or prevented. Often they will enjoy board games that require strategy, and may be a number of steps ahead of their opponents, creating a plan and adapting any technique at their disposal to fit the plan. However, this ability also allows them to know when something is inevitable or out of their power, and in such situations, the ILI will fatalistically wait it out. In a similar way, the ILI will often be the first to point out when an action is useless or pointless, already knowing that it will not lead anywhere despite the optimism of others.

Super-Ego

Vulnerable Fe

ILIs do not tend to care what others think of them and often would prefer not to unnecessarily interact with people other than those they care about. Frequently, ILIs fill the archetype of the outsider to any social circle and the teller of unpopular truths, not because they actively desire to be contrary or controversial, but because they do not see the point of sweetening their words for the ears of others at the expense of accuracy and sincerity. For the ILI, this is partially due to a lack of awareness of their own emotional expression and the impression they are giving off to others. Furthermore, the concept of showing emotions, rather than simply feeling them internally, is quite alien to them, sometimes resulting in a listless or austere manner when speaking. When aware that someone is putting on a façade of sunny emotions, the ILI approaches them with scepticism, questioning their angle. The ILI may stubbornly resist attempts by such people to make them to join in with the forced enthusiasm, socially alienating themselves as a result. ILIs may express frustration with seemingly pointless social norms like small talk, avoiding pleasantries and cutting straight to the point in conversation. These tendencies run the risk of spoiling the positive mood, resulting in a loss of popularity for the ILI. Consequently, their fore-warnings can often fall on deaf ears as people may decide not to listen to them and may mistake it for pessimism. However, to accuse ILIs of pessimism is to misunderstand their realism. After all, unjustified negativity is as bad to them as unjustified optimism.

Role Si

The ILI is best situated when detached from the present day and pondering over themes of times been and yet to come. However, a certain amount of begrudging self-maintenance is kept with the ILI, who usually attends to chores and concerns around the house at a slow, steady pace, freeing up the mind to go elsewhere. ILIs are usually unconcerned with how they look, but will nevertheless know to maintain basic hygiene and standard practices. However, ILIs will have little care for anything luxurious or pleasant. The room they may occupy is a simple holding cell for them to sleep in, its comfort being as important to them as their distant memories of the room years later. They may also possess a good eye for detail when needed, being able to spot errors and and read the fine print, keeping an eye on the specifics of practical tasks without much difficulty. Many may take up work requiring repetitive or detailed activity and perform well, although they will use such physical tasks to go elsewhere mentally.

Super-Id

Mobilizing Fi

Although many appear cold and detached on the outside, ILIs can possess powerful sentiments and attachments that are shut out from public view except in short bursts of temper. ILIs rarely forgive and even more rarely forget the wrongs done to them by other people. ILIs can have a rather strong, all-or-nothing sense of decency and character judgement, sacrificing their own needs without complaint for the select few they care about, while keeping a wary psychological distance from most others. Although being difficult to get close to, ILIs deeply want to encounter people whom they actually like and foster a bond of great significance. Rather than seek belonging of any social circle where public approval is required, ILIs seek out these close, personal contacts, serving as trusted advisers to those who sincerely find them worth listening to.

Suggestive Se

The ILI tends to possess a sardonic sense of humour and when the situation calls for it, may make harsh or biting comments at those they think deserve it. However, this is usually the limit of an ILI's aggression. Although often appreciative of power and the will to confront or change reality, they themselves are unable to adequately make these changes themselves, having difficulty overcoming the inertia of excessive thinking before any action might be taken. Rather than jump in and think on their feet, ILIs tend to be highly risk averse, finding it easier to succeed through careful preparation and reviewing as much relevant information as possible in the time they have, making sure that whatever they do will ensure good outcomes for the future. This can lead to a certain hesitance to make a decision, although once a decision is finally made, it is stuck to. They tend to appreciate those with a relentless energy to get what they want when they want, finding this empowering and shaking them out of their analytical paralysis.

Id

Ignoring Ne

ILIs tend to have little patience for brainstorming with others and running through different options. Instead their goal is to deliberately limit the range of possibilities as much as they can, putting together the most probable estimation for how future events are going to turn out from the trends and information available. When faced with alternatives, the ILI will likely respond with stubbornness, seeing their conclusion as the most likely outcome and the only one worth focusing on. This can be interpreted by others as arrogance, although the ILI is unlikely to have a position at all until they have given the matter considerable thought and surveyed all the relevant variables in forming their opinion. Often the ILI will turn out to have been right all along, by which point people would have likely forgotten there was an issue in the first place.

Demonstrative Ti

People often perceive the ILI to be a source of intellect and profound insight, given to forming a clear, structured understanding of phenomena. However, although the ILI readily grapples with theories, philosophies and ideologies, they do so with a natural scepticism. For the ILI, grand theories that neatly explain everything should be distrusted, with their analytical rigour easily dismantling such ideas, keeping only what stands up to their scrutiny. After undermining the logical integrity of a theory, the ILI is unlikely to offer a complete structure in its place, preferring to piece together only what works when building their oasis of understanding in a general landscape of doubt.

Source: Wikisocion

[windudemon]

idrlabs’ great intp vs intj comparison

what makes christoper hitchens more feisty is fi tertiary. intjs will be rebellious with their fi. they will have their own strongly believed values. they won’t only kick stupid fe trends all over the place (fe polr), they will also kick fi stupid despite being fi users. ayn rand would be a great intj example too. she was extremely feisty about what she believed.

as an entp myself, i am much more like intjs compared to intps when it comes to ethics BECAUSE my fe is in that same tertiary slot. i have no problem whatsoever to crush fi feelings or values of people when they do not make sense (fi polr) but i also crush fe trends and universalities despite being an fe user. just because something is universally accepted, doesn’t mean it’s correct or worthy.

this is why john beebe called tertiary slot as “the eternal child” it’s spunky and edgy and REACTIVE.

intps has inferior fe compared to entps or intjs. they don’t want to go too far ahead and mess with ethics AT ALL, they don’t want NONE of that DRAMA.

so yeah, like idrlabs beautifully put then, richard dawkins treat religion like a pincushion. let me stick another pin in you, and another, nothing personal. but at the same time, i will continue sticking into you. ah, i need more pins. (istps would be exactly like this too.)

notice how dawkins think religious people are misguided. that’s a very safe approach. he is fe diplomatically saying you are an idiot while hitchens hype himself up and gets super personal and stuff.

in socionics ili has bold fi just like intj in mbti. in socionics lii has cautious fe just like intp in mbti.

and that’s why intp can not be ili in socionics. you either have inferior / suggestive fe or not. you either have bold and reactive fi or not. you can’t be fi spunky in mbti by being an intj and then switch to suggestive fe in socionics which is a direct contradiction.

[dream-sans-mogai]

Lazy flag combos pt.47

Ft. Aloeian/nullic/x loving none with...

ILI × WLI × MLI

NBLI × agender boy × agender girl

Sakura lesbian × orchid lesbian × moon lesbian

No credit needed

[colorpuzzled]

my pride post i think

[doppy-enjo]

Like to charge, reblog to cast

[jackalspine]

@schnuffel-danny hehehe

regarding this post: from schnuffle

[thunderon]

“long hair on guys doesn’t make them less masculine. think keanu reeves, jason momoa, danny trejo, or the guy at your local dive bar who rides a motorcycle”

*the crowd nods*

“so long hair doesn’t necessarily determine masculinity”

*the crowd, more hesitant, still nodding*

“butches can have long hair—“

*GUNSHOT*

[yppngmtt]

WWP 4: "opposite"

i was a little stumped on what to do for this one but then the ideas hit me like a truck and i HAD to stay up so late cranking out these designs. i decided to do a species swap of me and my partner's (@ilinoxiluxi) fursonas, so for some context: on the left is my sona peyote, who is based off a sable silken windhound, and on the right is their sona ili, who is based off a chocolate smoke cat!

bonus headshot concepts below the read more!

[jdotsodomite]

i hope you write (i hope we both write)

[datcravat]

tetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetoteto!!!!!

[phlve]

Socionics Quadras — Gamma

Gamma, or the ‘third’ quadra, includes the types SEE, ILI, LIE, and ESI.

The Reinin traits that distinguish Gamma from other quadras are “decisive,” “serious,” and “democratic.”

Dominant elements

The dominant IM elements of the Gamma Quadra are Te, Fi, Se, Ni. All Gamma Quadra types have these elements in the Ego or Super-Id blocks and tend to promote or favor their use over subdued elements.

Te blocked with Ni

Gamma types take a longer-term view regarding efficiency and profitability, giving lower priority to the short term. Likewise, they tend to aim at the broader benefits of decisions, rather than only at those affecting themselves, giving them an inclination for self-sacrifice.

Gamma types like to talk about where present trends are leading in terms of potentially profitable events and undertakings.

Gamma types tend to give more value to ideas and concepts that are firmly connected to factual information.

Fi blocked with Se

Gamma types take a hard-line approach regarding ethical principles and the punishment, even revenge, on those who break them.

Gamma types place high value on personal loyalty, once they feel a close relationship has been established.

Gamma types like to discuss personal relationships in a realistic manner and are skeptical that “jerks” can ever become “nice people”, for instance.

Subdued elements

The subdued IM elements of the Gamma Quadra are Fe, Ti, Ne, Si. These elements reflect aspects of reality which Gamma Quadra types prefer to keep to themselves and not discuss openly.

Fe blocked with Si

Gamma types don’t tend to form or maintain groups based on fun, emotional interaction, but only take groups seriously that perform some common productive activity or discuss serious topics.

Gamma types reject the idea that it’s best to avoid confrontations so as not to spoil the mood of those present, they prefer directness in settling or at least discussing disagreements.

Gamma types have difficulty relating to emotional atmospheres connected to “special dates” such as public holidays.

Ti blocked with Ne

Gamma types do not see much point in deeply analyzing ideas that they see as having little practical application or connection to reality.

Gamma types are more inclined to speculate and discuss possible developments of present circumstances, or how these came about, than to speculate or analyze alternative scenarios or possibilities

Group behavior

Groups made up of primarily Gamma types tend to be small in size; perhaps 6 at most. Laughter and very obvious displays of emotion are subdued, instead, there is a lot of smiling, amusement with ironic and witty remarks or, when serious subjects or not very happy personal experiences are discussed, a serious demeanour. Even such small groups tend to split into smaller ones; perhaps 3 is the ideal “group” size for Gammas.

Group discussions are focused on exchange of information and ideas on subjects of mutual interest, discussing and planning activities together, or on personal experiences. The latter are usually discussed not with the purpose of making people laugh or to boast one’s position but to get an insight into the lessons to be drawn from such experiences.

Gammas usually dislike being “drawn” into larger groups where loud exchanges of jokes and quick shifting of one subject to the other are the norm, as in a large dinner table in an informal environment, especially if the group is also somewhat “artificial” as in work colleagues or business partners where personal relationships weren’t really spontaneously formed. In such situations, Gammas will tend to focus on the persons sitting immediately near them in order to engage them in more individual conversations or will tend to remain mostly silent, not really participating in the group atmosphere, making the impression of being “introverts” in the everyday meaning of the term.

Once a group is formed, it tends to be wary for some time of “newcomers”, being neither exclusive nor inclusive on purpose. Conversations often focus on trends regarding material and yet personal issues, such as career prospects and developments, success or failure of financial investments and enterprises, and the future prospects of romantic relationships, as well as the reasons for the failure of past ones. In more light-hearted moments, such talks get a “bawdy” flavor with some slight teasing.

Other subjects tend to focus on internal work politics from the point of view of how it jeopardizes general efficiency, the nonsense of bureaucracy, and how to be better than competitors.

Romance styles

Gammas usually have little time for “romance” in the “wooing” meaning of the term; relationships tend to develop rather as the meeting of two individuals interested in a relationship and each other. Elements of “courtship” or “romance” are seen as rituals with less meaning than the feelings involved. Relationships, also friendships, usually develop from exchanges of information, ideas, personal experiences of special significance, and mutual help, proceeding to activities together.

Gamma romantic interactions tend to focus on the longer-term prospects of the relationship in terms of definition, that is, for instance, even if it is to be a temporary relationship, this should be more or less clear, or at least in one’s mind, from the beginning. General impatience with flirting for flirting’s sake, or for fun; approaches and moves are made with a purpose, which may be altered down the road, nonetheless. Assumption that sexual innuendo and approaches are backed by some sort of emotional attachment. Once a relationship is established as being romantic, interactions tend to focus on physical and somewhat tough interplay and innuendo. Playful power-games, focusing on intensity of interactions and feelings.

Perception of other quadras

Alpha

Gammas tend to perceive Alpha types as creative, generally well-meaning, and friendly and pleasant people, especially as a group, as a first impression. Later, Gammas tend to see Alphas as lacking ambition in the longer term, overly concerned with sensorial pleasure and comfort, and overly demanding of, and sensitive to, external emotional expression without making much effort to focus on deeper feelings involved.

Beta

Gammas tend to regard Beta types as driven, ambitious people with a sense of purpose and who can get things done, usually with very strong views, as in political issues or ways of approaching work, which Gammas tend to see as not backed by sufficient factual confirmation and therefore too ideological. Gammas also may regard Betas as two-faced when bent on achieving a goal, and too concerned with their social status, and that of others, within any given social group.

Delta

Gammas tend to perceive Delta types as kindly, well-meaning and creative people, but perhaps too present-focused and lacking ambition with a longer-term perspective, as well as being overly welcoming and forgiving of people whom Gammas may regard as undeserving.

Source: Wikisocion