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#personal#delete later#for context a tweet i made in the middle of the night blew the fuck up and brought the attention of anime fans who've been#harassing and hassling me about my big factual blunder for an entire day straight#“ok i'll apologize” “bro it's not that serious.”#“you're right it's not that serious“ ”why won't you just admit that you're wrong and apologize!“#i'm not going crazy right. i feel like i'm getting manipulated into thinking i must've been wrong#it's crazy how twitter hate will trick you into believing saying something someone else disagrees with is a moral failing#sorry i haven't seen frieren i guess but what's it to you. i wasn't making a claim or statement#also because nobody has gotten this in the original post i wasn't talking about the quality of animation i'm talking about solid drawing#which is a very specific principle of animation. dandandan has really good solid drawing wherein all the characters are animated#with realistic and proportional 3d depth. newsflash but trigger doesn't prioritize solid drawing in their animation and that's fine#it's an aesthetic choice and has ties to production limits. none of this is a big deal. this is all so stupid lol#i've dealt with worse and more annoying weebs though it's fine i'll put on my clown nose twitter needs their stupid guy for the day#oh btw at the end of the day this doesn't matter. it'll be over by tomorrow. all that's happening is petty angry emotions.#so please don't involve yourself by jumping into the argument and prolonging this shit#i'm about to go on a date with tulli after being apart for a month this is the furtherest thing from my mind rn
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Now that JJK 271 is out and had...an ending...I have one issue and question.
Why are people trying to force a narrative that most Shonen endings are bad?
Haikyu!!, Slam Dunk, Assassination Classroom, Mob Psycho 100, Dororo, Gurren Lagann, Zatch Bell, the ending of Chainsaw Man part 1, Trigun, Ashita no Joe, Gintama, the JJBA endings (especially Steel Ball Run and Stone Ocean), Golden Kamuy, Azumanga Daioh, Beck, Pandora Hearts, Great Teacher Onizuka, and way more than I can list all had great endings.
Heck, Full Metal Alchemist, a manga that many hold in especially high regard, is widely regarded to have a perfect or near perfect ending.
I have my own issues with the jjk ending, but some of them stem from issues I've had with the manga for a while so it wasn't surprising for the issues I've been having to crop up at the finale, especially given the rush to get there. But there are so many people quick to bash the entire category of manga. The examples of bad, mediocre, and/or controversial shonen endings are often just very well-known series so of course when they end people are loud about it.
As unsatisfied as I, and many people are, with this ending I feel like it was almost inevitable. Gege's health took a steep drop towards the latter half of the series and even more during this final arc. (I still swear by the fact that most manga, especially jjk, should be on a monthly format instead of weekly).
At the end of the day, endings are hard. You have to wrap up multiple threads in a succinct and satisfying way, and this is even harder when its a long running series or a series with a LOT of expectations. Coupled with the deadlines, restraints, and meddling most mangaka face when writing its a difficult task to wrap up hundreds of chapters in just a few.
Anyway it really has been our Potential Kaisen.
#Every time someone says every shonen ending is bad a Haikyu!! fan gets their wings#Saying the last few chapters felt mediocre is completely fair they did to me as well#But saying gege is the worst writer in the world?#You haven't read enough manga and you're also just ignoring Perfect Preperation and Hidden Inventory#Its okay to be upset and angry and frustrated but please don’t take it out on people#jjk 271#jjk spoilers#pocket rambles#And I don't wanna hear anyone say “well its his first manga” like thats not much of an excuse#I specified Hiromu Arakawa specifically because they both had very similar cases of writing previous oneshots and short stories beforehand
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I just saw someone say that people shouldnt get into MotoGP by social media cause they aren't "true fans" and instead their father should introduce them to it...
Fuck you. Leave us alone.
#LIKE SORRY????#THE GOD DAMN AUDACITY SOME PEOPLE HAVE#Yes I'd love to have a loving dad that explains me how motogp works when I was a kid BUT I DON'T#HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ME AND GIVES 0 SHITS ABOUT MOTOGP#DOES THAT MEAN I'M NOT A REAL FAN???#FUCK YOU#If you really believe that you don't understand this sport#IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU GET IN THE SPORT THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU'RE INTRESTED AND THAT YOU HAVE FUN#motogp#rant post#seriously that made me so fucking angry
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it's so important to me that johnny lawrence was basically in tears when he handed daniel the trophy, that boy had been keeping in all emotions except for rage for so long and daniel gave him permission to feel everything all at once (and then kreese almost killed him for it)
#johnny lawrence pov: you feel things for a boy and it makes you Angry because that is the only emotion you're really allowed to feel#then the boy speaks to you in the only language where you can be fluid and free and he beats you but that's honourable -- he's given you#permission to feel and now you feel everything#and then you're reminded very suddenly of why you had to be so so careful#johnny lawrence#daniel larusso#tkk#the karate kid#we really do live with a fun Version of johnny in this fandom don't we big fan big fan#no wonder he decides to just stop his growth from that point on silly silly man#i still don't believe that he actually partied -- and by that i mean i think his parties consisted of going to bars or yeah house party#type situations -- getting wasted and then forgetting everything#he didn't actually *party*#basic johnny lawrence analysis? in this our year 2023??? i feel things for him okay
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just read the new hatchling skin rules and am having Some Type Of Initial Emotional Reaction and am now writing down said Initial Emotional Reaction uncensored as i currently Strongly Feel A Type Of Way and Require Venting. i cannot word this more politely. i do not have the capability to render this rage into polite borderline corporate-speak for the sake of the damn rules that act like anything short of apologizing for being alive to make up for having even the most constructive understanding friendly criticism or even personal mild non-critical dislike of something like a color or a breed is tantamount to personal targeted hatemail. i cannot wait until i cool into calm bitterness later because if i think about this enough to write about it again i will just go right back to being furious and the fact that everyone ielse who's complaining is focusing entirely on the lolita fashion thing and not on in my opinion the far more significant and offensive part is pissing me off even more. extremely angry unedited ranting ahead
fr having it's own "female presenting nipples" moment right now, not that i'm particularly surprised, they've been a prime example of "conservative protestantism in a lefty-language veneer" for a long while now.
"don't adultify" is such a fucking vague and easily selectively interpreted rule, not to mention insulting for a number of reasons,
but putting that part aside the whole idea of "nothing that suggests that the dragon is an adult in a young body" is. look, i'm not exactly fond of the "adult who looks like an anime schoolgirl" trope myself, but i fail to see how in the absolute FUCK having it be canon in-universe that it is both possible and legal for someone to be forced to stay as a child permanently, is somehow LESS creepy than just saying eternal youth dragons have dwarfism. also, fuck you to anyone with dwarfism apparently i guess?
and "no zombie baby dragons" is just stupid. even fucking minecraft has baby zombies, and microsoft has steadily butchered that game into one of the most t for toddler babymode things on earth this side of cocomelon.
and "no scars on hatchlings" so fuck you to any kids with scars too apparently, even though that's way more common than anyone seems to realize. you hear that, kids? if you're under 18 and have scars your very existence is too obscene for public view. 13+ year olds will be irreparably traumatized if they have to know you exist at all! fuck you disabled kids and fuck you amputee kids and fuck you any kids that have suffered anything ever at all for not appearing as a perfect unspoiled image of conservative christian child-doll innocent purity. flight rising staff says your body and existence is inherently too nsfw to even be acknowledged as existing much less visually seen. everyone knows REAL children don't get damaged at all, and if they do then they're too horrifying and defective at their job of Being A Child Properly to exist in public spaces! how dare ugly things that might make us uncomfortable with their existence by contradicting out ideals about aesthetic moral purity be allowed where good respectable normal people can see them!
i don't say any of these words lightly, and i'm very much not the type to go around calling people whatever-ists and in fact find that kind of thing extremely annoying, useless, reductive, and more or less only ever see it used as a blunt cudgel to shame people into line so they don't question you, and have historically found it especially annoying when people pull out the accusations-of-ism card on fr staff over things that are far more likely just completely understandable (if dubiously competent) issues of certain things simply not occurring to someone on code and design level due to lack of sufficient exposure to the idea, and have always been of the belief of giving them the benefit of doubt (even if often that just means i think they either most likely made an understandable mistake that i would likely also make, or, when i'm feeling less kind, that they're simply not particularly competent rather than actively hostile) so understand how much it means coming from me when i say- flight rising staff, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, fuck you, you ableist batch of pricks, so far up your own asses with your performative veneer of vaguely lefty-flavored language that you don't realize how fundamentally extremely conservative all of your actual beliefs underlying them are. for every update you make that i approve of there's another that does twice as much damage as the good update fixed (and i'm starting to wonder if you maybe know what you're doing with that too-always batching the fucked up shit on the tail end of some big thing you know people will be excited about, always hiding these controversial moderation changes under something shiny and new, to the point that now i dread any new good update that genuinely seems a step in the right direction and/or is something we've been wanting for awhile because i'm just constantly expecting the knife hidden behind the footnotes afterwards, the fucking "ban tiktok/gay marriage/strip rights from this population/end net neutrality/whatever/ect" clause stapled onto the end of a bill about something entirely unrelated functionally holding a change people want hostage until they allow the fucked up part through. i've been here most of the site's 10+ years and i've seen this sort of thing happen far, far too often.) and every year the shit that gets pulled on the management and moderation end of things makes me more and more almost glad i've never had an income to spend on this, and the fact that apparently the moderation behind every single other petsite in existence is somehow significantly worse fucking astounds me. the only reason i stay around here is because It's Free Dragon Pictures, because it's literally the only actually good petsite game i've ever played and not gotten sick of within a week or so (and really the only good low-energy game i've ever played in general, which i'm increasingly convinced is in spite of it's management), and because somehow, despite all of this shit, i still genuinely love the game itself, because unfortunately by some accident of creation it seems they apparently stumbled purely by coincidence into making an actually good game idea no one else quite has. and after all the fuckery that gets constantly pulled, i refuse to believe the game being good is anything other than, much like many of the of the incidents i think they're unfairly accused of malice and -ism over, an accident.
Disabled children too obscene to fucking exist. fuck you. good to know half the child population's existence requires a trigger warning to even be allowed to be acknowledged as existing to you. good to know if the heart surgery i had when i was 11 had left any visible external scars i would be considered inherently too obscene to exist to you. good to know if the overhealed and benignly potentially cancerous scar on my back from whatever actually happened when i was a toddler (i don't trust either of my parents to ever be accurate about something like that) was in a more visible spot you would demand i have a trigger warning to post selfies online. good to know if any of the shit that's broken me emotionally left visible physical marks you would think it was good and right for me to be forcibly hidden from good normal people's view and considered too taboo for even the slightest discussion without hiding it with makeup and lies, just so i don't make good, lucky, undamaged, normal people uncomfortable, god fucking forbid. should we hide the gays too, since they also make so many people uncomfy? i imagine it won't be long before disabled adults are too obscene for your polite societytm sensibilities too. i've had the feeling for a long time that amputee and disabled skins were living on borrowed time with your rules, kept technically not explicitly dissalowed where all other forms of injury and ""body horror"" are banned simply out of fear of the backlash it would cause to include them, and well. the doomsday clock on that one just got a little bit closer to midnight, huh?
the only reason i wasn't a (physically, visibly, externally) scarred kid was pure sheer fucking luck. the only reason you weren't a physically scarred kid too is pure sheer fucking luck. the only reason you're not some type of disfigured or ugly or amputated or visibly injured or whatnot is pure sheer fucking luck. you're lucky. nothing more. if having to contend with that fact-the fact of how easily it could have gone a different way and there is nothing they would be able to do about it- makes good normal tm people uncomfortable, then well, get the fuck used to it, other people children very much fucking included don't exist to cater to the aesthetic sensibilities of a lucky perfect few. the only thing that separates you from the damaged ones you find too obscene is a bad day and an unlucky hand. and one day, even if you were lucky enough to escape being damaged when you were young, you and i will both be just like them too.
more festival skin winners slots is good. elemental swords sound fun.
#flight rising#how do i always and only end up in fandoms where either the fans or the creators or the fans and the creators#are downright insufferable crypto-conservative nutjobs of the type who tend to think justifying suicide baiting is ever okay#i'm sure i'll cool down to a more calm bitterness on this eventually but for right now i've just read the post and my initial reaction#is still Burning Hot#you have touched upon a trigger subject and I Am Very Angry#the stupid school dress code-ass clothing rules is dumb but wouldn't have gotten much out of me other than an eye roll on it's own#but no scars? no sign of past injury? no implication of disability? no uggos basically?#everyone else who is angry is focusing on the dumb dress code rules when this bullshit is right fucking there#the experience of being an fr player all these years has been a slow building of papercut after papercut#with everyone telling you it's not that bad#until you're the unreasonable one for being so angry over 'just a papercut'#and you have no good way to tell them that it's been 'just a papercut' over and over and over again for *years*#and you would very much like if the chill thing that's supposed to be a low-investment de-stressor would STOP GIVING YOU PAPERCUTS#i don't know how much i can give the benefit of doubt anymore
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Since I've seen several posts floating around that try to rebut the points of @end-otw-racism by saying that AO3 is too big to moderate, can we PLEASE take a moment and remember that AO3 IS ALREADY HEAVILY MODERATED.
We all know the obvious one - that if you post anything about monetizing fic, you will be moderated into oblivion. We also all know why! This is essential to AO3's survival as a non-profit! No one would propose changing this!
But a lot of people seem to forget that AO3 is moderated in other ways! For a personal example, several years ago I got a "change this or we're removing your work" e-mail. The work in question? A collection of pseudo-ficlets that were somewhere between outlines and sketchy fics. What I got moderated for? I said in the a/n that if anyone wanted to expand my kinda-outliney nonsense into fully fleshed out stories, they were welcome to do so! I was told this was a violation of the ToS, because fics that are collections of prompts aren't allowed, and that if I didn't change the a/n I'd have to delete the work. Of course I edited the a/n, and my work was allowed, and I moved on. I did, immediately, delete another work I'd posted, which WAS literally sets of prompts I'd written free to a good home. It was clearly in violation of those rules, and I just hadn't realized content like that wasn't allowed.
Numerous things are forbidden on AO3 and will get moderated and potentially deleted, including:
advertising
"find a fic" posts
spam
plagiarized works
virus spreading
doxxing
actual CSAM
lots of other stuff as listed in the tos
If the foundation of your argument is "AO3 is too big to moderate" your argument is bad. AO3 is already moderated.
So that means your ACTUAL argument is "I think AO3 is moderated enough as-is and I don't think AO3 should be moderated in a way that might better protect fans of color."
Having that attitude despite the many, many, MANY fans of colors who say "hey, we don't feel safe here, can this be better moderated to protect us?" (when, by the way, the existing harassment policy SHOULD protect them but clearly isn't being implemented in ways that actually DOES protect them!)
Well. That's sure a take.
(TO BE CLEAR: I am anti-censorship. I am pro-moderation. I am pro-AO3. I fucking love your dark fic, your underage works, your non-con stories, your kinky pwp with "no redeeming qualities," your dirty-wrong-bad ego fics. I would NEVER want a solution that removed that content. And I believe AO3 is the greatest thing to happen to fic in my lifetime and I want it to continue to be the wonderful thing it is. I think that what AO3 already is can be reconciled with the demands of fans of color that they be better protected. I believe fans of color when they say that the current policies don't protect them adequately, that they don't feel safe, that this drives them out of white western fandom. I've listened a lot, and I've seen a lot, and I've learned a lot, and I want AO3 to be better than it is in this regard. I'm honestly kinda depressed how many people seem comfortable with the status quo.)
#unforth rambles#racism#end racism in the otw#end otw racism#the specific post i saw made me so angry it's taken me the better part of a week to cool down enough to speak coherently about it#way to write a HUGE post that all starts from a very false premise#well two false premises actually#the first is that the end otw racism movement is calling for content to be deleted#which it's not literally no one is saying read billions of words of fanfic to protect fans of color#that's an absurd thing to say and everyone involved knows it's absurd so nice straw man#but even more fundamental than that HELLO THERE IS ALREADY HEAVY MODERATION#enforce the rules that are ALREADY THERE#BE MORE TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING#these are not unreasonable requests#i'm really starting to think some people can't be bothered to actually read what's being asked for#and are instead seeing what they want to see there#and to be clear i also am surely reading the text with rose-colored glasses#i don't want to see yes we mean deletion yes we mean removal#i personally want a solution that's both as anti-censorship as possible and also is pro moderation and protects people#so that's the lens I read things through#but I KNOW the lens I'm reading it through and I KNOW that lens may be coloring my interpretations#have you taken a moment to take off your glasses and see how they might be coloring your own intepretations#because maybe you should
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Why can't we just have nice things?
#star wars#the acolyte#Star Wars the acolyte#Legit really pissed about this#I was fucking invested in that#Like I have no doubt this is because of the fan negativity#And I just can't help but hate the Star Wars fandom at this time#This is a fandom that is constantly throwing tantrums over the stupidest shit#And those tantrums ensure that we never explore stories that are about anything other than nostalgia bait#And even those will likely invite their own whinging#Gonna be honest#I don't know the way forward for this franchise#Every time someone tries to do something new and interesting the fandom throws a hissy fit#Every time someone other than a cishet white man makes a show the fandom throws a hissy fit#Even when nostalgia bait goes a little differently from what they wanted the fandom throws a hissy fit#So what is there to do?#What stories are there to tell?#If you're going to try and make stories for people who just want to be angry at you for everything you do#What is left?#And why won't these people who repeatedly say they're done with Star Wars just go the fuck away already?#What do they gain by sticking around to a franchise they say has left them behind?#Why are they so offended that other people are enjoying something that's not for them anymore?#And how do you tell a story when a whole cadre of assholes is going to try to hijack the narrative around it before it even starts?
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Back when Wonwoo sang the song, one of the original singers even came out and acknowledged that the song is racist, and apologized for it. If I see anyone defending this in any way, instead of acknowledging the problem and holding them accountable, it's a block from me
#maja talks#you can be fan of someone and still hold them accountable#and if you don't think the situation is a valid thing to be angry and sad about you're the problem
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Earth did nothing wrong.
That's it. That's the post.
#the sun and moon show#tsams#sams earth#sams moon#moon fans have really been discounting#all of times when earth tried to help#moon with his mental and emotional well being huh?#how is it her fault that he remained clammed up#about his true mental state?#'look how quick she gave up on him after he said one measly mean thing to her!'#he said and did much more than that actually#— attempted murder among those things.#and about the initial confrontation between them:#earth was still willing to forgive him.#she didn't mean that he was 'dead to her as a brother'#when she got angry with him.#in earth's own words:#'I just meant our relationship is gonna be different from that point on. I wasn't gonna tell him the things that I was insecure about.'#perfectly valid reaction.#mental illness doesn't excuse treating people poorly period.#plus moon wasn't detached from reality#when he weaponzied earth's insecurities to purposefully hurt her.#also earth never said anything which implied (directly or indirectly)#she had disowned him.#pre-murder attempt.#if anything moon threw her away.#earth's words again:#'and then he does the whole you're collateral damage. it's basically telling me you're dead to me and I don't care about you anymore.'#and even after all that she keeps feeling at fault (she's not) for moon's issues.#hardly the behavior of someone who 'gave up on him quick'.
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Everybody: "Sure, the Angry Birds fandom is annoying with how much they've shouted "BringBack2012", but at least they're not queerphobic!
Me: "Just look at the comments under all their Pride posts (at least on YouTube) and see if you're still right."
#toxic fandom#angry birds#the angry birds fandom may be the most underhated fandom on the planet#you'd think that whatever fandom remains of a nostalgic mobile game series that peaked 12 years ago wouldn't be that bad#but wow you would not believe how bad it's been for the past half-decade#it's to the point where even the youtuber who started the “bringback2012” hashtag innocently enough disowned it within a year#AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE 5 YEARS AGO#like i get it the franchise we grew up with has been a dump for nine years now but do you really have to be so toxic about it?#as a hopeless angry birds fan myself looking at these comments for the past few years has been pure cringe#there's respectful ways to want the franchise to be good again and then there's being a bunch of babies (literally a lot of them sound 7)#i don't normally like saying this but if you're being this much of a hateful brat over angry birds: GROW UP!#geez sega can't catch a break with owning franchises with toxic fanbases#one commenter even once said under a post “bring back the games or you'll never see your family again!”#like geez at this point i almost want the old games to stay dead just so they won't appease to these clowns#you realize there's mods to play and literal thousands of old levels to replay right?#sorta rants
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Heard about the ultrawide "support" on the new Fallout 4 update...
#bitch I could do that myself 5 years ago#are you fucking serious you're gonna break everyone's mods for absolutely nothing#I can't be angry about the mods technically because I don't even have the game installed rn#but I love how they don't even put bare minimum into ANYTHING anymore#I really try not to be one of those fans I do but it's getting impossible#personal#gif#bitching
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idk if i have stated in so many words before but kinda weird for people not to care about the brown men of the story on account of them being men
like most people did to javi irl what the yellowjackets did in the show lol, dismissed always, no more than the little kid, he was already dead
#and like i know you're not only being weird about their race but also that they get inbetween your girlhood fantasies#as if the story isn't based around the lord of the flies which is exclusively a look into white british boys behavior#so i ask of you what does that mean for who the yellowjackets represent like are they truly girlhood#or considering me and the other fans of color conferred and realised this shit wasn't even written with black or brown women#in mind or their ethnicity for input in the writing like idk adding kessell to the writing ffs anyway#so it's clear this was written with white womanhood in mind like#don't y'all think it reflects a particular female rage more trapped in time and space than entirely universality#which is ok if racist tbh but it still allows a look into a particular face of womanhood and not all encompassing#and again travis and javi were right there the tragedy is of childhood not girlhood there he didn't even get to be a person just the#annoying little kid in most of their eyes it's kind of sad#and telling y'all could dismiss javi and travis so easily before lile they're not brown men#fuck im angry#yellowjackets
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The Animorphs fandom is really chill, which is nice. But there's one post about the reprint covers and whenever anyone tries to explain that Scholastic was trying to appeal to contemporary kids/visual branding/the covers weren't that bad, a dude is just freaking out over and over with the most bad faith/cherry picking arguments, and I think he thinks he's "owning" everybody, but it has gone from annoying to just plain funny that he's got his head so far up his ass.
#like ah yes you don't understand visual branding and now you're loud and angry about it#something something people are loud when they want to sound smart#my fave is when someone's like 'they didn't reprint these for old fans. they wanted new fans' and the guy is like WHAT KID WOULD PICK THESE#based on my time in a middle school.... the new covers were preferred by kids lol#the lenticular covers honestly weren't that bad but he purposefully keeps on reposting the in-between photos of it where ofc it looks bad#wait'll somebody tells him about the graphic novels#oh shit I think he might've just gotten silenced in the group#nice dude#Animorphs
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new post in the shining force tag :D
it's a post being haughty towards other games for sexualizing female characters :|
not to be mean but some people in this fandom are way too bold in looking at the master monks and claiming it's not as sexualized as everything else, especially when the meeting with sheela is also Like That. I understand that there's nothing explicit in the english games but i still recommend some caution about this kinda topic, especially when you wanna straight up brag to other people about it
(actually consider not bragging at all about that! respecting women is supposed to be the goddamn standard and also about caring for women, not to give you a point in stupid fandom wars or whatever)
#shining series#shining force#sorry if this sounds harsh but it just brings up a lot of issues i've seen in this fandom#i feel a lot of shining fans have turned their bitterness on the series' end/change into some overglorification on how groundbreaking it wa#and also be ridiculously haughty towards other games#i swear i've seen people be angry about sonic still getting games while shining doesn't#that's not even comparing apples to oranges bestie that's comparing apples to a race car#there's simply zero connection between the shit you're saying#meanwhile people kinda. fail to connect that the series becoming Like That after camelot might mean something#in fact there's this garbage take where any sexualization in the tony taka series is seen as it 'became more japanese so it sucks'#as if the original creators weren't as japanese. or as if their work is better solely for trying to appeal more to westerners#(and as if westerners don't enjoy sexualizing girls)#(like i haven't seen a billion skeevy arts of monk sarah excused just because she can kick ass)#anyway! as if i don't have another rant in the works because of the novel!#i deeply recommend everyone starts seeing this as a topic to care about for real instead of bragging points#misogyny
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Y’all will be your own undoing the fact none of you have not even the slightest bit of doubt is rather worrying. what happens if neither is endgame and let’s say Mike is killed off? You can’t say that won’t happen either because you don’t know the same way you can’t say byler is endgame because you don’t know hell even milevens can’t say they’re ship is endgame because they don’t know. Ego is ruining both sides and neither side is correct and shouldn’t proclaim to be.
I'm sorry anon, but I'm not all bylers. While there are a great deal of bylers like myself who have less doubts these days, there are plenty that have mostly doubts. PLENTY. Arguably the vast majority. And for good reason, ie. history.
To be completely honest anon, I don't think you're worried about bylers and their lack of doubts. I think their lack of doubt scares you bc it's caused you to go from confident to having doubts yourself. Why else would you be here on anon all condescending otherwise?
Personally, I'm not even here bc I want to believe byler's endgame. And no offense to those that have went through it, because the whole point of queer-baiting is to basically mock queer fans and lead them on with no intention of following through, but I have never been queer-baited before.
I did however, like many milkvans, go into Stranger Things loving Mike and El under the assumption they were peak romance. I literally skipped all of s2 during my first rewatch to get to their reunion! But genuinely, do we think the show is supposed to be watched that way?? Hell no.
If you're having to skip all of s2, most of s3, most of s4 in rewatches, bc Mike and El are separated, fighting, or broken up, what does that tell you?
If you're having resentments for characters like Max and Lucas and Will and Hopper bc the story has made points to have those characters interfere with your confidence in Mike and El romantically, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're probably watching the show wrong. To be clear, if you have resentment for ANY of the main characters, you are missing something!!!
And that was my problem back then when I subscribed to these assumptions, because I WANTED to believe Mike and El were the pinnacle of romance, despite the signs incoming that went against it. And what that meant is I had to hold resentments for all the characters, including Mike and El themselves and even the Duffer Brothers for ruining what I WANTED to believe.
After s3, me, my friends, family and quite honestly anyone I spoke to about the show, said that it went downhill since the previous two seasons. And I do think a big part of the reason why, is because of the Mike and El conflict conflating everything. It felt regressive. And s4 repeating that exact storyline????
It took me a while to even consider byler as an idea. It's not like I latch onto every non-canon mlm ship and just ship for nothing (very few bylers do this, no matter how much anti's need to convince themselves this is the case as an excuse to be homophobic).
I am a hopeless romantic. Doesn't matter if it's queer or straight, I only ship stuff that I feel confident is endgame bc why would I put myself through scenes of something that doesn't feel right to me, merely bc I want to believe it and despite everything pointing against it??
Full serious, IF I was confident in milkvan endgame as a possibility, I would probably just convince myself to like them and provide evidence supporting it, bc I would honestly rather be right? Who tf wants to be wrong?
The problem was it didn't matter if I was initially convinced Mike and El were the pinnacle of romance (I was a child okay, give me a break...). Once I let go of that assumption because of all the doubts I had of them piling up, and took off my heteronormative goggles, I went woah... Holy shit. This show is actually fucking epic. Doubts gone. And the rest is history.
So, what happens if neither is endgame and Mike's killed off? I guess I would be confused, especially because the Duffer's specifically mentioned not being able to kill off Mike in a podcast last year. They gave their reasoning as to why, being that they take deaths on their show very seriously, needing 1+ seasons for them to show the characters mourning the loss. And so ending the show on that exact note, would be kind of a spoiler since they brought it up specifically? Therefore kind of redundant?
I guess, sue me for thinking the Duffers care about the show and put a lot of meaning into it. All of my analysis and theories are based on that assumption. No one's going to change how I think about that, so trust me, not worth getting worked up over it, anon.
If your evidence is all based on the assumption that the Duffers are not that good of writers, that almost everything on the show is coincidental and there's no deeper meaning beyond surface level, why are you even watching it in the first place? You do you I guess, but I just don't know why you wouldn't want to watch something that is more worth your time?
People being confident in their theories wont hurt you. If it bothers you so much, maybe find a way to be confident with your theories after looking at all the evidence from both sides. All sides. Any sides. If you still come up completely indifferent, then don't work yourself up by going on anon and making it other peoples' problem.
If it turns out everything meant nothing, and I was wrong about everything or most of what I interpreted, I will be okay! Because the show went from being about what I wanted to believe, to just what I genuinely believed.
Would I be disappointed? Sure. But lets hope I'm right bc in my scenario the show is epic and everything means something... not sure why anyone would root for the alt...
#byler#ask#queer-baiting is messed up#but I don't think anyone arguing against byler all condescendingly cares about queer-bait#antis are out here depending on queerbait to feel confident in their take on things#if you're just an honest person and have been through queer-bait and are trying to warn ppl who you view as yourself in a way#i sympathize with that#i get it#but there's seriously no reason to target people directly and complain about how their lack of doubt irritates you#like lets get a grip#this is a tv show#if this was a straight ship ya'll would not be out here getting so angry over this and talking all condescending#that's what it comes down to#if you're not homophobic#if you're not holding onto the idea of milkvan bc it's what you want to believe#if you are willing to actually look at all the evidence#instead of just speaking about it like it's an atrocity without actually giving it the time of day#then you'd be a lot closer to the truth about a lot of things on the show#unfortunately a lot of fans have to convince themselves nothing means anything to subscribe to milkvan endgame#and bc of that there's a lot of stuff that they missed#again#if there was enough evidence supporting milkvan#i would find a way to make it work in my brain and focus on the evidence#it's just unfortunate that a majority of their scenes works as the strongest evidence against them
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#had to listen to ttpd out of plain curiosity because everyone was saying how much it didn't deliver and well they weren't lying#they weren't lying about the lana comparisons either! who's afraid of little old me sounds like born to die in the verses#it's very flat tbh like you're listening to the same songs over and over#it's very hollow like the album was just made just to be made in order to keep her name afloat and relevant#not because she had something to actually say and express. her song delivery is very flat and unemotional idek how to properly express what#i mean. like she sings with no actual emotion behind the words no nerve no nothing. like she can't actually convince me that she's feeling#all that she's singing. also like the music is all the same and the way she sings them. there's no fluctuations no diversity. it's the same#song over and over. also sometimes i feel like the lyrics and the delivery don't really go together with the music#like they don't compliment each other#But Daddy I Love Him is supposedly over her fans trying to dictate her life (i have all sorts of opinions on that but it's a diff convo) an#it had 0 nerve and anger in it. i needed a little more intense a little more angry. i liked down bad and Florida (thank god for Florence 😭)#and all the breathy low vocals are not it either. it kind of makes the album flatter. there's no tension no passion in the album#definitely feels like she's trying to recreate 1989 and maybe folklore/evermore and it's not working#also people comparing this album to midnights are not wrong either#it feels like her last few releases all sound the same with no creativity or bringing something new and amazing#she really needs a break and to take a step back re-evaluate and try to create something more inspiring and fun instead of trying to#recreate the same sound over and over again. releasing album after album in such a short period of time is bound to hinder creativity and#the quality of someone's work. and maybe she does need new people to work with that will push her creatively#also i feel like she doesn't need to create such long albums. especially if you're using the same sound in every song. like one song morpths#into the other and it gets boring! especially if there's little to no build up and tension holding the song and having breathy vocals that#lead to nowhere during each song! anyway it could've been a whole lot better and she has better songs than this
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