#if it isnt the consequences of my own actions etc
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neighbourhoodtwo · 2 years ago
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T-4 hours till it all goes to hell
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fubuwu · 2 years ago
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Fuck it. Since I'm being spat on and tarnished by jc antis I'm unashamedly doing call out posts as they have harassed me on all my posts and got their little friends to gang up on me. Starting with this "lovely" person
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Calling me an abuse apologist just because I said that madame yu had tough love methods..... I was in no way excusing her abuse towards wwx with that FYI. Wwx wasnt even mentioned in the og post.... Never once denied she was abusive in the post either (in fact i ackowledged her abuse numerous times in the post and how her children act around her. But apparently you willfully missed that part). I said she had tough love methods towards her children. NOT WWX. Wwx was not her child or have you forgotten that? She has a tough love attitude in the sense that she toughens up her kids, expects no nonsense, wants them to strive to do better, get on with it, stiff upper lip attitude etc. This does not mean it's a good parenting tactic.
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Using tough love to describe her parenting technique isn't a compliment. Apparently some of you don't know what it means because tough love, whilst there is love and good intentions behind the actions, it can also have unintended bad consequences on your children and is not a form of love you should expose your child to if you want them to become normal, emotionally stable people.
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It can lead to unhealthy coping mechanisms and suppressing emotions amongst other things I won't go into. I was in no way complimenting her. It was a critique. That should have been obvious. But in your words, ig some of you don't have reading comprehension.
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To accuse me of something so extreme as excusing abuse over a FICTIONAL CHARACTER and trying to get all your friends to agree and jump on my posts because I never explicitly made the above points obvious is what a bully would do. You know nothing about me and decided to make such allegations over a single post. I will not stand for this bullying.
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YOU should be ashamed of your behavior. I've seen your other posts and how you talk about and to REAL PEOPLE.
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You acting all morally superior whilst attacking me and many others like this makes you an abusive person FYI. And I won't sit there and take it from you or your friends.
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Moving on to specimen number two
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This person has been spamming my notifications jumping on EVERY post, being disrespectful and pretty much accusing me, an ace person, for being ignorant about MY OWN IDENTITY and using ace stereotypes just because I surmised that jc could be ace due to his lack of interest in romance.
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Echoing the words used by another user in the thread, but denying that such ace persons exist is acephobic in itself. I'm an ace person who isnt interested in relationships outside anything that is close, platonic but meaningful. Many others in the jc fandom say the same thing which is why they see themselves in him. A large portion of the jc fandom are actually ace in fact and we love to see him used in ace rep posts. We're already made to feel like freaks, so to have that thrown in my face is very hurtful. Above all twisting my words and making out I said every ace person hates romance is very disingenuous. I NEVER once said that in the post. I wont have my character attacked and lied about like that.
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Also, once again TWISTING my words, implying I was pissed off about the incel claims when it was so obvious that I was merely asking out of curiosity where these claims come from?? Because it was never implied in the canon text. There was no anger or malice behind my questions. It was all open discussion. I can see now that this was mental gymnastics at play here to justify your hcs that you know are not canon and use it as an excuse to attack my posts with your friends, all because you were proven wrong. You lashed out on what was an otherwise polite discussion. That behavior is all entirely on you.
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Ive only ever been respectful in my posts and they were never done to provoke arguments or hate on others opinions. So to wake up and be accused of all sorts over a fictional character is very hurtful and just shows how terribly low your side of the fandom has to stoop just to prove a point and hate on jc.
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Im not tolerating it and these blatant LIES any longer. I hope other jc antis read these posts and see how nasty you all are. And if anyone thinks this sort of treatment is okay, then you need to look inwardly and step away from the computer. I'm done here.
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marshmallow-fluff-ruff · 7 months ago
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Against my better judgment for my own sanity, I looked at this long ass thread of comments on TikTok under a video about normalizing age regression where someone had said both age regression AND age play are valid and should be more understood and stuff, and ofc cause TikTok is TikTok and the internet is the internet and yada yada, most people were disagreeing and saying that age play is this this and that bs
The person responded to a few for a while and was extremely nice and respectful about it and explained things well.
The part that stuck out to me though was they said that “[age play] isn’t about ‘you are now a baby’, it’s about ‘you are now mine to take care of.’”
And idk I just feel like that’s the best my POV on the whole thing has been stated
Majority of people interested in age play I’ve seen are not predatory, they are not attracted to children or even necessarily child-like qualities, they are interested in the safety and healing and comfort of the dynamic of being taken care of/taking care of someone
This goes for pretty much all kinks: as long as the people involved are consenting adults and they aren’t imposing it on anyone who ISNT a consenting adult, there is nothing morally wrong or harmful about it
I think a common misconception a lot of people have about kinks, especially roleplay related kinks, in general is that they’re somehow fetishizing their real counterparts, when for majority of people it is much more about the dynamic and exploring those dynamics between them and their partner(s) in a way that feels good to them without any real danger or assault or anything involved
Someone roleplaying CNC is no where NEAR the same as legitimately being r4ped. It is not the same action, it will not have the same consequences or effect on a person, the intentions behind it are different, etc.
Same goes for any other forms of kinky role play, INCLUDING age play
Someone partaking in age play is no where NEAR the same as genuinely having relations with/abusing/being attracted to a child. It’s not the same action, it will not have the same consequences or effect on a person, despite what many people seem to believe, THE INTENTIONS BEHIND IT ARE DIFFERENT!!!!
Age play for the most part is a mix of a caregiving dynamic and acting a different age than you are in someway (which can be older or younger!)
For people who play as younger, often it is about being vulnerable and open, being more expressive, enjoying things without shame about “being too old”, having the opportunity to me cared for in a way they probably haven’t experienced since childhood or unfortunately didn’t get in childhood at all, giving up responsibility, etc.
For people who play as older/are on the caregiver end, it’s often about feeling responsible and important, caring for someone you love, seeing someone you love in a vulnerable and open state and knowing they’re safe with you, caring for someone in a way you may have wished you were cared for when you were younger, being comforting, etc.
Honestly my biggest issue with age play IS THE NAME because I feel like it’s partly misleading.
Like yes, roleplaying as an age different than you are is involved, but it’s not really about pretending to be a kid because you think that’s attractive, it’s about the dynamic, and it’s actually often used as a coping mechanism and a way to heal in the same way regression is
Also if I hear any more arguments about how finding anything remotely childish attractive makes you a p3do I WILL scream. Being small doesn’t make someone a child, liking cute things doesn’t make someone a child, being sensitive doesn’t make someone a child, liking childish activities like going to the park or playing games doesn’t make someone a child, speaking in a “baby voice” doesn’t make someone a child, etc etc etc
Being attracted to any of those qualities in a person DOES NOT make someone a p3do
Yes, even if they have MULTIPLE OF THOSE TRAITS
Being attracted to an adult who appears “childish” in some ways is not remotely even CLOSE to actually being attracted to children, let alone make someone a predator
Again, as long as anything happening involves consenting adults, there’s nothing wrong with it, and it CAN be helpful and healing for people
It’s entirely understandable to be uncomfortable with the concept or not want to engage with the community and such, and as with any community there will be harmful parts of it or bad people involved, there’s aspects of it and parts of the community that I am not a huge fan of myself, but overgeneralizing and framing the whole community as something it’s not is NOT helpful to anyone
Also, contrary to popular belief, age play/pet play/a handful of other “kinky” or bdsm related things are NOT inherently sexual, in fact they’re probably non-sexual more often than they are sexual. Age play and pet play are not just about sex, they are about general relationship dynamics
All in all, mind your business and be kind, it’s not that hard
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gyatukensaiban · 2 months ago
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my take on Squid game vs. Alice in BL
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(ive only watched three episodes of aib)
so ive seen alot of people online saying Alice in BL is better than squid game. however, i dont think thats the case.
both shows do amazing things
first off i think theres no comparison between two shows. and no, this isnt a sugar-coated way of saying that aib is out of squiggame's league or anything .
aib is a thriller that consantly puts you in suspense and at the edge of your seat. squid game is a social commentary
In defense of Squidgame
Everyone knows why so many people think aib is better. it has more mystery, higher stakes and less, well, absurdity. and thats true. aib is a thriller. an action thiller. the only people who will survive it are really physically skilled ones (like the jiker girl) , the exceedingly smart ones and arisu. thats it. the rest of the people can go to hell. this is survival of the fittest.
squidgame however, is about something else entirely. it is about the psychological effects of being thrust into the unknown and cut off from the world. it shows how money can drive people to extreme lengths and make them go insane.
Squiggame is a social commentary on the state of Korea (and other places). how much people can suffer just because they werent born rich. how much gambling, addiction, investing without knowing how to play the game can make a person's life a living hell
i didnt watch aib so i dont know why the games are happening, but i think that vips in squid game are the most imporant part. to the rich people the suffering of the poor is nothing but a joke. to them, the unfortunate are the same as horses, something inhumane something worthless. this is also how the real world works. to the rich, poor people are nothing but a statistic, something to exploit without consequence. thats why things like multibillionaire companies keep raising prices and decreasing wages and commit unethical crimes, they know no ones coming to stop them.
relatability
when watching aib , i know for a fact that if i was in the game id die immediately by slipping on ice or something, or maybe of panic. point is 1) the aib games are designed to torture you, to drive you insane. 2) i dont think anyone realistically thinks they can survive more than 2 games (unless theyre physically built idk)
in squid game tho? the characters are real. you can tell by their reactions to other people dying, to the guards etc. these are real people being thrust into circumstances out of their control. another thing, these people are all obviously penniless, most of them are in extreme debts. they are struggling in their own lives, doors slamming shut in every direction they go in. these people, are something to sympathise with, soemthing to understand on a deeper level than is shown.
speaking of real, squid game focuses on the lengths that these people would go through for their lives, or even worse, for money. its about how money can drive people insane, incapable of empathy because sympathy for themselves blinds them ,renders them incapable or being trusted with anyone other than themselves.
the paradox
one line for squid game really hit me. during the voting , a young man from X said to everyone, that out there they can fix their lives again by working hard etc. and then a middle aged man from O said something along the lines of, young man! you still have a chance out there because you are young! noone is willing to give a hand to people like me anymore.
that really hit me. its not like the people who stay want to die, its just that they know that life out there is a living hell for them anyways. in here they have an even playing field, a final chance to set their life on track.
the only thing sorta common in both series is showcasing the human will to survive. like literally thats it.
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sorry for the long rant for squiggame, i just get so pissed off when ppl blindly say aib is better that sg, even though they carry out completely different narratives ( and excel in them)
hopefully after i finish aib ill make an essay abt it too (i already have some points)
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lavendermanna · 8 months ago
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unstructured thoughts about the concept of gendered power dynamics as a spectrum rather than binary or ternary system
(ive been thinking about a couple really good transfeminist articles i read recently about the idea of third genders: #1 https://substack.com/@taliabhatt/p-148363142 | #2 https://thesizhensystem.substack.com/p/faggotization-and-the-extant-gender and i was trying to conceptualize a way of thinking about it that made all the pieces fit together, and then this fell out of my brain)
"gender is a spectrum" is a basic, surface level aesthetic observation of the structure of the social construct that we participate in every day, in every social interaction. the concept of a "gender binary" isnt even an observation of the system, its a surface level misunderstanding of what you are looking at. sorting gender into distinct categories with rigid boundaries is in and of itself an illusion created by patriarchy: it doesnt accurately represent the real lived gendered experience of people, and it fails to capture the power structure that is enforced on gendered bodies by society. "men have power over women, and both have power over faggots" is never going to be a complex and nuanced enough analysis to capture the reality of patriarchal oppression. much has been said about men as both sufferers and enforcers of patriarchal violence, but it should be obvious to the observer that some men wield gendered privilege over other men; ie they receive social benefit from other due to their perceived success and fulfilling the role of manliness, while others who are perceived as less manly face more obstacles by comparison (see, for instance, how short men tend to be treated worse than tall men; tallness being a classic signifier of masculinity in our culture).
the fact is that gender is a many layered hierarchy of micro signifiers and power dynamics between individuals. at the top of the spectrum is the ultimate, perfect, masculine ideal. people whose masculinity is unassailable, archetypes of concept of gender, people whose actions and choices define what masculinity even means. this could mean, for instance, rippling rock hard muscles and chest hair, but it is equally marked by social structure and personal choices, such as wielding power with entitlement, drinking certain types of alcohol, treating people in a certain way, etc. this matter is also complicated by the fact that each individual has their own personal opinion of what this archetypal paragon of masculinity looks like, but of course not everyone's opinion is weighted equally in the enforcement of gender roles. the point of the concept of the ultimate man is that under patriarchy, it is the bar against which all of human gender expression is judged, and therefore anyone who falls short is essentially "lesser" or "deficient", a failed man, or even more generally a failed human, a failed person. this category includes all women and faggots, but i would contend also a lot of men, who still, by the nature of the structure of the hierarchy, do have privilege over a lot of people, are considered deficient enough to be denied certain privileges of masculinity.
there is even a word for this process: emasculation, and it is a real material threat to some people, whose masculinity is so strictly policed by their peers that having their gender threatened, ie losing power in the social hierarchy of gender, that they will face serious negative consequences. these men are not necessarily "women" or "faggots" but they are nevertheless victims of patriarchal violence. essentially, the threat of emasculation/feminization/faggotization does not happen all at once: it is a process by which a person is stripped of privilege, and depending on how far the process is taken, it can move them any amount of distance down the spectrum and into a more marginalized, oppressed position. squinting at it from a distance, we can divide this system into two or three or however many categories of oppressor and oppressed who wield privilege against one another, but all of these delineations are generalizations of the fine structure of interpersonal power dynamics that comprise the power spectrum. in any individual case, it may be easy or difficult to determine who is above whom n the hierarchy, if the distance between their positions is great enough to be obvious, but determining who has privilege over whom when the individuals in question occupy nearly the same spot on the spectrum can be much more difficult.
but more to the point, i think that one of the real benefits of thinking about it this way is that when interacting with other marginalized people, rather than asking, "is this person a member of the oppressor class or the victim class", it may be more fruitful to frame it simply as "is this person above me on the gender-power spectrum?" power is not abstract. power is about the material conditions that affect the daily lives of real people. a person who has gendered privilege over you is a person who has the power to materially affect your life due to the fact that their gender is viewed as more legitimate and worthy of respect and trust than yours by the people around you. gendered privilege determines who will be rewarded for adherence to social expectation, and who will be punished for deviance. it describes your relationship to authority and public perception. all of these things are relative to how an individual is viewed compared to their peers; the standard for what is considered sufficiently masculine to avoid punishment or disrespect depends on who is in the room with you.
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gladosluver · 1 year ago
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i kinda need a place to get serious cuz well... im gladosluver. you cant take that seriously. and i need a spot to rant about my shit without having to bear the gladosloving cross forever (wow!!! if it isnt the consequences of my own actions)
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musubiki · 2 years ago
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omg omg omg i'm gonna geek out about writing quickly but the time skip redo is actually really cool??? like mochi feels like the glue keeping them all together is so it makes sense that they kinda scatter but still stay in touch kinda after she leaves,,,, also the idea of getting the gang back together one by one just feels kinda nice like its the ✨found family✨ vibes that the guild radiates that just has me🤧🤧🤧🤧 LOVE THEM SO MUCH
YES AAAH IM GLAD YOU THINK SO!!!!!!!!! i feel like this version is better exactly for that reason and also its a better driver for the growth lime goes through when mochi isnt there!!!
PLUS it also aligns better with what (in my head) seems to be normal around "grown" witches, which is that after that period of time where a witch is learning and coming into her own, she no longer has need for a guild and it effectively breaks up (which is why tiramisus guild as well as other older witches dont have their full guild with them. maybe 1 or 2 members stuck around because theyre friends but otherwise most witches guilds dissolve after said witch is done training and her power is in full)
the only thing that makes me sad about it is that i wish lime and the others were close enough friends to stay together as a guild after mochi leaves, like their friendship with each other isnt SOLELY dependent on her, but since there only 5 of them (and taffy is new), once mochi left, lime was the only other person who was capable enough to lead the guild. and since he took such an emotional blow i dont think he had it in him to essentially babysit the other 3. so with 2/5 members (and essentially the core of the guild) out of action, it makes sense that neither coco or oscar could ever "lead" the guild the way lime potentially could have (and taffy feels like he has no right to even try to fill that role). that being said, i do like the idea of them hanging out every so often to do side quests!!!!!
(essentially i think of this period as lime shifts into the "main character" role and it turns into a genshin style of adventure for him-- where he just travels around (lowkey searching for mochi) but mostly training, doing side quest/side quest chains, becoming stronger, and every so often he runs into a quest that requires you to bring along/interact with other major characters like coco, oscar, taffy, the merchant, other witches mochis met during her journeys, etc, but afterwards goes back to a solo journey. as a consequence once the guild gets back together it turns out lime has a bunch of connections in a bunch of different places)
and also!!! i maybe have mentioned this, but in my heart it feels unfair to have them all just.,.....waiting around for her. like obviously we all know she comes back to them, but from their POV shes essentially gone forever with no end date, and having them accept the mindset of potentially waiting around forever feels like a shitty thing to do, so im going to let them move on!!!!! (at least superficially. i dont think any of them would ever truly move on after mochi leaves. how would you ever just spend 2-3 years in this magic world of action and adventure and then just suddenly drop it all and go work a 9-5??? impossible. they all tangentially stayed in the magic community and would be ready at the drop of a hat to rejoin mochi if she ever came back and asked them to!!)
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emeraldtintedsword · 11 days ago
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(forewarning im being a bit ramble-y because this is like a suuuper interesting topic to me, but alas it just makes me excited to talk about this stuff lol)
youre totally right about pbta in the sense that most of the mechanics are organised into "moves" all with roughly the same mechanical weight (combat and chatting being as complex/"important" as each other), that broadly (if not always?) follow the format of 2d6 + mod, 10+ means a success, 7-9 means partial success, and anything less is usually a failure. BUT i would absolutely argue that besides that, pbta is much less universal in how it handles things, because each move is a separate unique subsystem designed to cover a very specific use case. i dont know of any off the top of my head that ditch or change the format of the roll (more/less dice, different bands of success etc), but it is the case that each move has its own bespoke consequences laid out, much the same way that OD&D has bespoke consequences for making an attack, attempting negotiations or kicking down a door. thats in contrast to 5e in which most things either fall into binary success or failure (ability checks in general), the couple of ways saves can be handled (halve damage or binary success again), or attack rolls (binary success but with a codified result of success). importantly, 5e doesnt care to codify the results for any ability checks except for the few covered by the system. pbta i think has a good mix of both approaches because it has the simplicity of a universal resolution mechanic (always the 2d6 + mod and 3 bands of success), but the tailored consequences of a subsystem heavy rpg where each action covered by the game has bespoke purpose built results. taking the responsibility off of the gm to interpret a "yes or no" answer in the maximally interesting way, and instead just predesigning the interesting results.
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this is from Apocalypse World (an rpg i have only ever vaguely skimmed but i figure i might as well reference the original lol), and you can see how each of these moves follow a similar format but are all quite unique in how they actually work.
but interestingly....
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this is from World Of Dungeons, a PbtA game, and is an interesting example of a game that is almost as universal as it gets, given that it has a single move that acts as a universal resolution mechanic. i think that as time goes on PbtA games are more and more based on each other, and less off of AW, and have started to homogenise their mechanics much more into the same exact formatting that World of Dungeons has. which is fine, but interesting.
but yeah from one perspective AW went "ok but what if we just used the reaction roll for everything", but from another perspective they had to make a unique reaction table for each action. i think its worth considering that (as far as i know..?) most pbta games dont have a universal resolution mechanic to catch all the cases that arent already covered by existing moves like World of Dungeons has, and theyre similar to pre 3e d&d in that regard. (not that it would need or benefit from one given the format is so consistent that you would basically reinvent the World of Dungeons universal move on your own if you ever needed to resolve something not covered by the rules in a mechanical way, but i think that would defeat the purpose the codified moves have of making each action distinct and focused on the intended genre experience)
all this to say, i now really want to try making a PbtA hack of OD&D that is exactly the same as OD&D except all the subsystems are now labelled as moves. taking the joust move... im mildly surprised i dont see more pbta moves that use different dice mechanics or skip dice entirely tbh, but i suppose it makes it simpler to remember and design. but i think this is one of those "the dice mechanic isnt the point" circumstances (like when people say a d&d-like game uses d20s, a pbta-like game uses 2d6s, a runequest-like uses d100s)
this is an interesting example of pbta style resolution used for D&D style skills. suuuper neat to me for comparing how pbta and d&d differ in style. i think someone else on tumblr was mentioning that 4e had something similar? and 5e made a bit of an attempt with tool proficiency actions? idk. anyway, universality is a neat taxonomy, and i appreciate how it basically just describes how much everything fits within a single universal resolution mechanic
Hey kids! Are you ready for
TTRPG Taxonomy Time with Vivian Vixen
No? Well too bad!
D&D 5e has a much more universal system than any of the older editions. And when I say "universal system," I most certainly do not mean that it's a game that's suitable for everything. No, the universality of a system as we, and by we I mean I, define it has nothing to do with being genre-neutral or anything like that, it's a purely mechanical concept.
A universal system (distinct from a universal game which exists only in theory) is one where the same mechanic is used for everything in the game. And before you object that no D&D 5e is not actually like that, I point you to the beginning of the previous paragraph where I use the word "more." So sit down and listen.
Let's compare it to the original game from 1974 (plus some supplements). The procedures for different parts of the game were very distinct. For hitting someone in combat you'd roll some six-sided dice (if using Chainmail rules)) and compare troop types to see what you needed to roll to score hits. For negotiating with monsters, you'd roll 2d6 and look up the result on a table. For thief skills you'd roll percentile dice and try to roll under a certain number. To make a saving throw, you'd roll a d20 and look up on a table what you needed to roll based on your level. And the whole idea of combat being a distinct mode of play with people taking turns is very non-universal in itself, but that's true of every edition so we won't consider it when comparing within D&D.
So in what way is 5e more universal? Two words: proficiency bonus. Are you hitting a goblin with a sword? Roll Strrength plus your proficiency bonus. Are you negotiating with a goblin? Roll Charisma plus your proficiency bonus. Are you trying to pick the lock on a goblin's door? Roll Dexterity plus your proficiency bonus. Are you trying not to get explosive diarrhea from a goblin's rancid cooking? Roll Constitution plus your proficiency bonus. That's the basic system that runs through the game.
Now let's compare it to some totally different games. Your average PbtA game is leagues more universal, because doing a fight is just another move you can do without even calling for a separete mode of play. But universality has had a strong presence even in much more traditional games. In Vampire: The Masquerade, if you're seducing a goblin Ventrue, you'd be rolling Appearence+Subterfuge. If you were trying to punch a goblin Ventrue instead, you'd roll Strength+Brawl. And unlike in D&D 5e where your access to adding your proficiency bonus comes from different sources in all of the above examples, in our Vampire examples both Brawl and Subterfuge are Talents, and compete for the same pool of resources at character creation.
I suck at ending these posts, but in summary, there are a lot of different ways that games can be structured, and that's pretty interesting!
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pear-pies · 3 years ago
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Thank you for this work but if you so care about credit, why not make your name bigger in the pictures? it is very small to read it 😂🕵️
new look scans just dropped!!
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Actually I usually worry the watermarks are too obtrusive or distracting or arrogant lol.
As an aside though, if you're using these scans on your own ig or whatever, please consider adding an actual link back. I know it's my own fault for giving myself a silly name, but #pear-pies is just going to send people to content related to the baked treat pear pies.
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ourflagmeansdebt · 3 years ago
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As much as i love Stede i think there is one aspect that not many people are talking about. I think Stede has a pretty awful habit of just sort of walking out on his loved ones without saying anything.
Like for instance, with Mary and his kids, he left in the middle of the night. He waited for Mary to fall asleep, was already dressed, packed and ready to leave. Leaving a spouse, you don't love and who obviously has resentment for you is one thing. Leaving your kids is completely different...
His kids are pretty young. Even if they seem to not get along that well with Stede, we still see him playing and them enjoying time with him. So I can imagine it probably hurt his kids more than anyone when he just up and left. I know for a fact this hurts because this is something I've personally experienced. I have had a rocky relationship with my dad. He out of the blue up and left to go live in another country for a while and it hurt. Still does years after the fact. Imagne how they feel. Your mother pretends/thinks he's dead, you have to play along. And then he just shows up again. It would be confusing and painful to process. We see in the show that his daughter is hurt and angry. rightfully so. There is the exchange of the pertified orange. The symbolizim by cutting it in half etc. But that isnt enough. The only justification for Stede leaving his daughter gives is that it made their mum much happier. She doesnt talk about her own feelings. Dealing with the prospect of your dad leaving (presumably forever) would suck.
Then later, Stede does almost the same thing to Ed. Stede doesn't even consider communicating with him, telling him that he needs to settle some things first. Right after the kiss and talk on the beach, we can see that Stede already has some hesitancy. He had multiple opportunities to actually talk to Ed. On the beach, in the barracks, he could have gone to the pier first etc. I'm sure Ed would have sympathized and been willing to give Stede some time. It's the man he loves. Being with Stede is worth that. But Stede doesn't. He leaves yet again.
Stede needs to learn that these actions have consequences. That They hurt people. He saw that when he went back to Mary and his kids. Now he needs to learn that with Ed.
I really hope in Season 2 they show that Stede has learnt that and that he can grow even more. And I hope they don't just act like his kids don't exist. I hope he writes them letters or sends them trinkets from his adventures. Keeps any kind of contact because they know he's not dead. Anyone with daddy issues or who has dealt with abandonment would value that. And I'm sure we will see the progression and result of Stede's actions with Ed. I hope we see a better Stede.
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werebutch · 2 years ago
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tell us more abt these ocs
Omg hiiii okay so this project started as a way for me to goof around with writing while working on a different more serious project.. so take that as you will…. It follows three main characters through their lives during capitalism’s slow fall, but mostly focuses on the relationships the characters have with each other and their sense of identity.
Atlas is a werewolf, fits the trope well by being quiet and angry and bloodthirsty. He started as me wanting to make a “cringy” oc for fun but i got really attached. He struggles with his sense of self, morals, view on Christianity and the way he was raised. He’s pessimistic and sarcastic but can also be extremely loving and loyal, depending. A large focus later in the story is atlas’s absolute attachment to his lover seraph, which does more harm than good. He and scotch are bffs/lovers btw
Seraph is human, but they’ve definitely stuck to the theme of their original concept, atlas’s guardian angel. They’re pretty much the complete opposite of him, like a shaky chihuahua. On the outside anyway. Seraph is obsessed with managing how people see them, they do an insane amount of micromanaging to stay this kind of symbol of purity to the public. Obviously this isnt a complete mask, they’re still a nervous wreck, compassionate, creative, but they’re also prideful, selfish, and revengeful. They struggle with Christianity as well as self image, their relationships, and facing the consequences of their actions.
Scotch is my special little guy. He’s a human who’s fixated on making music and being a star etc etc. despite his age he has not grown up at all since high school, but thats not all bad i guess. Hes super genuine, very outgoing and charismatic. A big focus for him is his relationship with atlas and eloise, which is complicated and kind of tears him apart (#situationship). Scotch is impulsive and very emotionally unstable, and pays more attention to others’ needs than his own. He struggles with identity, love, family, and accepting help from people.
The actual sequence in which everything takes place is constantly changing, im kind of just playing with it until something sticks. These characters have gone through insane changes LMFAO.. so yes im not exactly ready to explain the exact plot.. but i have a good handle on my main guys:3
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familyagrestefanblog · 5 years ago
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Just been thinking about the scene in "Gorizilla" where Adrien jumps off the skyscraper and Gabriel is forced to show some emotions while writing another post and I... I just-
Gabriel you selfish dick, what the hell??
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I was just as glad as everyone else to see Gabriel expressing genuine concern and fear for Adrien, it hit especially hard BECAUSE he was being Hawkmoth at that moment. But this
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THIS???
I just noticed how much of a bastard thing this was of him to say.
Think about it. This situation came to be because Gabriel completely disregarded Adrien when he just wanted to ask his father the short but very important question (which Adrien made known) of getting to see his mothers film in the movie theaters and send him away to his room when he noticed Adriens ring again which led to him suspecting Adrien to be Chat Noir. Gabriel wanted to confront Adrien about it but because Gabriel literally treated him like shit Adrien run away to see it anyway to which Gabriel reacts by sending the Gorilla after him (go after him yourself jerk,YOU fucked this up). The Gorilla can't catch Adrien though so Gabriel chews him out and immediately akumatizes him so Adrien has to reveal himself to free himself so he can help Ladybug deakumatize him.
Well, things escalate eventually leading to Adrien jumping off a skyscraper at the same time Ladybug gets caught by Gorizilla leaving her unable to save him from certain DEATH and here we are now
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Adrien is falling to his death and Gabriel as Hawkmoth is literally BEGGING him to transform if he really indeed is Chat Noir.
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Do you also see whats so genuinely fucked up about this scenario here? Let me repeat it:
Gabriel, the man who is not only the cause of all of this but also the one and only person involved who's is in complete control here, is begging ADRIEN, of whom he doesn't even know for sure if he really is Chat Noir, to transform to de-escalate his own fall to his death.
Gabriel Garbage Agreste, how DARE you start begging as if you were any kind of victim in this?!
Let me break it down just how much is wrong with all of this:
Even though Gabriel is fully aware that HE is the person in control here and is NOT sure if Adrien, who is literally about to die in mere moments, even has a definite way of saving himself, he's still putting the active "decision making" on ADRIEN. Who, let me remind you, can NOT hear Hawkmoth/Gabriel begging him to transform! Gabriel is making ADRIEN the one responsible for the outcome of this situation right now even though there is still the very real possibility that Adrien has no possible way of knowing that Hawkmoth is counting on him to transform BECAUSE HE MIGHT NOT BE A MIRACULOUS HOLDER IN THE FIRST PLACE!
It doesn't matter at all that Gabriel was correct with his suspicion because he's just immediately throwing all the responsibility he holds for this entire situation right off of himself, playing poor bystander father, when HE is the one who holds all the power and therefore should be the one immediately taking action in HIS chaos for which HIS SON is about to lose his life!
In addition to that point, let's talk about the ridiculous amount of time Gabriel let Adrien fall while just standing there waiting and begging.
Because Gabriel is not only asking Adrien to transform once, he's asking TWICE.
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There are 31(!!!) seconds beween Hawkmoths reaction to Adrien jumping and Ladybugs yoyo-string reaching Adrien and even though one certainly can make an argument here that the show time does not translate into the “real” time as well, but even if, there is no way in hell these 31 insane seconds would ever realistically come down to a number that isnt unforgivable long concidering the circumstances. And even then he's only letting Ladybug go to catch him because he hears Ladybug call to an absend Chat Noir for help, finally getting it through his thick skull just how close he is to having his own sons blood on his hands.
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Gabriel was willing to let his own, possibly innocent, son fall to his DEATH for this long for the off-chance of him revealing himself to be Chat Noir because Gabriel is unwilling or simply incapable of taking on the obvious responsibility he holds until things reach such unspeakable limits that he has to face reality for a moment so not everything goes up in flames.
But I'm not done yet. Oh no, definitely NOT.
Because even after waiting for so long he’s forced to let Ladybug go, this is still not the moment that convinced Gabriel of Adriens innocence. Its only after Wayham doubles as Adrien while Adrien transforms into Chat to join the fight that the sight of Adrien and Chat Noir at the same place eventually convinces him.
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Look at his face here and dare to tell me he wasnt still 100% convinced that Adrien could very likely be Chat Noir. Also dafuq kind of reaction is “Well, thats for the better” with THAT expression? That is NOT anywhere close to the relieved expression he SHOULD have had here! How much horrible stuff has already happened to Chat Noir at this point of the show? And THIS is how you react to the for-any-somewhat-resonable-parent GODSEND (but false) news that it wasnt your own flesh and blood you did this to? Yeah, you truly care Hawkbitch. Can someone please just call child protection services already?!
So even after this IMMENSE risk Adrien was not yet save from his supervillain father and neither was he Gabriels actual priority after “finding out” that Adrien is NOT Chat and he just put his CIVILIAN son through all of THIS. Which is exactly what happened in "heros day" part 1 and 2, where in part 1 he once again tells Gorizilla to protect Adrien, he is his "number 1 priority" but in part 2, after Adrien escaped from his akumatized bodyguard, Gorizilla is one of the giants Hawkmoth calls to himself but Gabriel has nothing to say to that. It was literally like he totally forgot about Adrien all together which is only made clearer by Hawkmoth later on straight up calling himself "a man with nothing to lose".
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Fuck you Gabriel, Adrien was literally never an actual priority for you and you proof it over and over again.
And apparently even a situation that proofs someones innocence in every possible factor will not be proof enough for Gabriel to accept that he was wrong if it was HIM who had to back down and take the needed action to de-escalate the situation and not someone else. Any situation that forces "weakness" of him and doesnt end with an undoubtable proof that 100% satisfies/clears his previous intention holds no worth in credibility for him, no matter how irrational or contra-productive it is to still cling onto it. Because Gabriel/Hawkmoth refuses to be the one having to back down and to be out-stubborned by anyone else. If he isnt the one tricking the others his paranoia and ego stop him from thinking clearly. Especially concering Gabriels and Adriens always worsening relationship, this is a bloody dark red allert for the future.
But besides that, lets talk about just how much of an selfish, self-centered and irresponsible thing is it of him to ask ADRIEN to pull the sacrifice in this moment?
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Adrien didn't refuse to transform for no reason. If he were to do it not only everybody in Paris would see it but HAWKMOTH as well and Adrien has no way of knowing that Hawkmoth at this point is not as much his enemy as he rightfully thinks and actually just wants him safe and sound right now. Adrien is perfectly aware that the moment Hawkmoth finds out about his identity he WILL take advantage of it, endangering his loved ones, friends etc (naturally including Gabriel himself as Adriens father as a big priority) and going after him mercilessly until he gets his ring. Adrien didn't refuse to save himself for nothing and that's important as hell!
Because here is Gabriel now begging Adrien to pull that exact sacrifice even though HE could stop this whenever he wanted, saving Adrien himself.
But he doesn't right away
And do you know why he doesn't?
Because stopping it required letting go of Ladybug and that could possibly lead to him losing the chance of getting her miraculous.
So this rotten insult to fatherhood wants to tell me now that he's a poor, poor father who fears for his dear sons life while basically asking ADRIEN to be the one to pull the bloody heavy sacrifice that will lead in Adriens eyes to horrible and devastating consequences for all of his loved ones and himself.
Just so Gabriel himself doesn't have to do it!
This is Gabriels default reaction by instinct. Gabriel are you FUCKING kidding me with this bullshit? How come I only noticed the fucked up second face of this scene now? I went so long actually giving Gabriel some legit credit for this but in reality this is beyond 7 stars of awful.
Once again, I applause Miraculous for this nuanced charactersation. This is what I will forever and ever love this show for and its fine to portray this because it obviously leads up to something
So let me say this with every inch of my heart:
FUCK. GABRIEL. AGRESTE!!!!
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furiosity-wills-the-cat · 4 years ago
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Chara, the fourth Blook cousin:
A crack theory that accidentally become way more serious than it should have because it somehow, despite my best efforts, ended up making sense
Brought to you by my idiot conspiracy brain (affectionate) and by encouragement from my Tumblr followers
Under the cut for the sake of your dashes and sanity
Ok here we go my very elaborate accidental theory, because in order to answer the complex questions simply you must first make simple things more complex or something
First, you need to know that Chara became a Blook cousin by adoption.
All of the Blooks are adopted.
Ghosts are not born into families, they make their own.
Got it? Great, because we’re about to start running
so first, im gonna make surprisingly uncommon claim in this fandom, and I am going to say that undertale ghosts are all dead
I’m taking the tiny details we know about ghosts and sprinting with them to new places
Ghosts also do not have souls I decided
Undertale souls do not work the same as souls in traditional mythology
So every ghost is soulless Unless and Until they become corporeal
Evidence: Monster souls cant exist without bodies, and ghosts are monsters, therefore ghosts cannot have souls without bodies
Further evidence: Asriel doesnt steal blooky’s soul, blooky is unkillable, we have no concrete evidence that blooky has a soul
What about mettaton? He only has a soul after he has completely committed to being corporeal and to a specific body.
Also maddy and mettaton are both only killable while corporeal
Im also connecting the dots we have about souls in a new creative way so let me live for a second
Additionally, i am going to claim that there are a lot more ghosts than just the blooks, some evidence given below
Theres like actual scientific knowlege of ghosts in the undertale verse which seems unlikely if theres literally only three or four
The underground is so much bigger than you think, theres that giant forest in snowdin, a large town in the ruins, the huge city of new home, who knows how much space in the large open areas of waterfall etc. Its really really big okay
Also based off evidence of blooky, we can conclude that ghosts can turn invisible whenever they want to and/or haunt objects to hide
So I personally think that ghosts are, generally speaking, extremely reclusive
And the blooks are just a special exception, a beautiful family, amazing for them
So anyway im going with typical ghost lore for now, for the sake of ease, so im gonna say ghosts generally come from monsters who are particularly restless or unsatisfied when they die
HOWEVER i dont think they remember being monsters or anything before being a ghost. They just kinda fizzle into existance with a fully formed personality and immortality while being unkillable and feeling vaguely uneasy
ALSO i personally think that chara was a ghost for a long time before they became a blook by adoption
Based on game lore, i think ghosts can possess any inanimate object and just kinda wear it? But it takes a lot of strong emotion to become corporeal
And chara is the super weird exception because they were a human not a monster.
They dont have a soul (i headcanon that their soul got destroyed when asriel died)
And they KNOW this, which is a huge part of why they kinda just... give up
Because they lost their ability to fulfill prophecy
Also, without a soul, they lost their ability to reset, so for the first time since falling underground, theyre subject to the relentless march of time
But theyre still weirdly strong and powerful and more emotional
ALSO they DO still remember being a human but they catch on pretty quickly that other ghosts dont have memories and because chara is stupid they just lie to fit in
Theyre too tired to explain themself, they just want to be alone and feel awful
Now back to ghost lore
Emotions are a lot harder for ghosts??? I decided
And they dont know why,, they tend to blame it on the soul thing
But realistically its actually more of the immortality thing making actions not have consequences and/or or not having a body so they cant have a sense of touch or have physical effects of emotion
They all know that ghosts just tend to be way more floaty and bored and numb
And thats part of why the blooks are so special
Maddy’s rage and Mettaton’s yearning and Napstablook’s misery are like... not great all of the time...
but theyre also way way more emotion than most ghosts have,,, they are just a family supporting each other, being as functional as they can,, just an emo(tional) ghost family
most ghosts barely do anything except like stare at walls but the blooks have their snail farm and that helps them have purpose and it is good
And they hold each other accountable and it is nice
So anyway chara just chills and is in a depression coma for a few decades before the blooks find them and are like “our child/baby cousin”
and they raise them for a cool minute
They are all very protective of the new baby emo blook
And chara doesnt get therapy but at the very least they once again have a family, and they decide they want to try to become corporeal eventually just like mtt and maddy
So anyway chara starts hanging out in the ruins a lot more and they finally tell the blooks theyre leaving to go become corporeal in the ruins
This is actually because they are trying to hang out with toriel
because they miss their mom ;;
but chara’s not gonna admit that to anyone, especially not to themself
And because theyre still repressing their emotions constantly and pretending to be fine, they cant become corporeal
And they hang out in the ruins for a long time because they feel guilty lying to everyone about everything
They still feel like its their fault that all the monsters are stuck underground, because they were SUPPOSED to save everyone and they COULDNT and it HURTS
But again, they are doing too much repression to use this guilt to become corporeal,
so instead they just kinda hide and watch toriel from a distance and cry
Blooky visits them the most, thats why blooky is chilling in the ruins so much at the start of the game
Theyre just there to visit their shy baby cousin ;;
Ofc they wont tell frisk about this because chara wants space and privacy and blooky respects that
but maddy and mtt also visit them a lot
Oh also when mtt and maddy start dissapearing, blookys mental health plummets as their family and support system starts to dissolve
Blooky was actually doing extremely well (for a ghost) for a long time, i headcanon,
but theyre doing the worst theyve been in a long long time during the game, because of family issues
So anyway, chara dissapears when frisk shows up, and maddy assumes this is becaude frisk hurt their fragile feelings
Maddy spends hours desperately searching the ruins for chara and cant find them and assumes that they had their heart crushed and went to hide and disappear in a depression coma for another few decades, and thats part of why maddy is so furious with frisk
Like,, to be clear, maddy is still jumping to conclusions and throwing blame around with no proof, but also, its a logical conclusion to come to
And mettaton has already disappeared too and been gone for a while, too, by this point, so it hurts even worse
But anyway, what actually happened to chara is that;
Because chara is a human ghost, not a monster ghost, normal ghost rules dont apply to them
And they can possess living things too they find out
Maybe they knew it a long time ago, maybe its a new discovery, but for whatever reason they end up possessing frisk and theyre like “what the heck”
And frisk still has most of the control
But now chara is like,,, “this is my chance, im a human again, gotta save the world for real,,,”
and they cant explain this to anyone without revealing their past
so they just chill in frisk’s mind while being super crypic and trying to figure out how it works
Pacifist route, this is pretty much exactly what happens
They manage to help frisk save the day
And in my headcanon, the no mercy route is started by frisk who is scared when faced by monsters attacking them
And then chara, who was aready hiding in a semidepression coma for a while, immediately transitions to a panicked “gotta protect this body, gotta protect my chance to be human, i died and threw away my chance to save everyone the first time, i CANNOT lose this chance again”
And so the combination of both frisk and chara is the genocide run
Because frisk kills in self defense, and whenever frisk hesitates, chara jumps in
Also theres leftover feelings from the whole asriel incident
Because again, ghosts come from monsters who died unsatisfied
And chara’s main source of unsatisfaction is how they were trying to get asriel to kill people before he died and then he didnt
So thats a strong strong feeling ruling them
So anyway by the time they both realize how bad its become they figure its too late and also the amount of LOVE has made them numb
And thats when chara who, despite everything, still has idiot hero complex and thinks they need to save the world
So, while panicking, they step in at the very end, and erase the timeline and delete everything
And also to clarify
They DONT HAVE this power at any other point in the game
Because, guess why
They become corporeal
Just like maddy, the no mercy route is the only thing that gives them strong enough emotion to spontaneously become corporeal
So they become corporeal and as soon as they have a soul again and can reset again, they just erase everything
Ok back to fluff
Post pacifist route, they are still a non corporeal ghost
They can still float around and look just like the other blooks
And it takes them a while to open up about things, but they do end up moving back in with blooky so that blooky isnt completely alone
And also they do way better with a family
Also they can float through the mountain and talk to flowey down below and bring him news
And now that they know about him, they can bond with him and explain that they dont have a soul either but that doesnt mean theyre worthless
Oh ALSO
The other dead humans dont have ghosts
BECAUSE
ghosts only come from restless dead MONSTERS
and chara is the weird special exception
Because they were a monster when they died
They became a ghost and asriel didnt because they were way more restless and stressed than asriel was when both of them died
Like sure, asriel felt awful, but chara was the one who was way more like “this is my fault, i CANT die now, the world NEEDS me”
So anyway
charablook the emo tween ghost and asriel flowey the eldrich goat daisy are siblings once more and they hang out and eventually they are okay and have a family again
Thank you for reading, this has been my thoughts on a crack theory that accidentally went too far
This isnt even everything, maybe i’ll make a part two eventually, but i promised to have this post out like two days ago, so i wanted to post SOMTHING
Anyway leave your thoughts if youd like
Im not looking for people to disprove it, i already know its crazy, i dont think it was intentional by the game writers, but i do think its a fun concept
thats the fun of it, so if anyone wants to run with it im all for it lol
Thanks again! Have a nice day!
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kingdarkstalker · 4 years ago
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One thing I hate is the ending of Talons of Power when Turtle says you only loose your soul because you get entitled from using your powers for bad things. What bad things did Albatross, Anemone, and Stonemover do or was this another case of Tui not thinking on past books or what she is writing down?
OK SO to be absolutely honest i have no idea whether tui intended for there to be like, actual “soul loss” or not, i wouldnt be at all surprised though given how messy the metaphor already is
here’s the way i interpret it / my canon: when turtle says you only lose your soul committing evil he doesnt mean there’s a literal magical draining of ones soul depending on what spells you cast, it’s about the destruction of one’s self by acting with hatred and causing pain. having power doesn’t inherently make someone a bad person, it’s whether or not they abuse their power, what they do with said power, that makes them bad
for instance, arctic lost his soul to his hatred and by abusing others, by the choices he made with his magic. it wasnt “you killed dragon now your soul is 10% less”, it was the trauma and guilt of killing his own flight for a life he didn’t see as worth it that destroyed him. arctic had not been doomed to evil, these were his choices and how he let himself deteriorate. those are the kinds of things that shatter a soul--ANY soul, whether they wield a magical power or not
albatross didn’t lose his soul out of his own volition (at first), he was abused by his sisters his entire life and grew up with that hatred. albatross began to lose himself and his soul to that hatred when he decided to include innocent bystanders and literal children in his fever. once again, this was a choice albatross made to project his trauma onto fathom unfairly
these two, and jerboa (the original) are clear examples of how “animus dragons lose their soul / turn evil etc” rumors could have began, and that kind of misunderstanding and misinformation became accepted as truth
this of course would put immense pressure on other animus such as stonemover, who was terrified of his powers and losing his soul. it was this fear, this self hatred, this depression, that made stonemover the way he was--he had no other truth his entire life other than that he was doomed to become uncontrollable and evil. of COURSE thats gonna fuck you up hardcore, of COURSE he cursed himself to turn to stone if literally everyone around you was expecting you to hurt them. this was a loss of soul from outside forces, from trauma
anenome is young enough to recover still, but the reasons she acted the way she did is because of her upbringing -- once again not only a princess with an obsessive mother that wants to use her as a tool for war, but like stonemover, convinced that her destiny is to become an evil monster. anenome admits this herself during her fight with turtle -- she had given up on herself and everyone else because of this, which would be the start of degrading ones own soul with hatred, but turtle was able to point out that its one’s actions not ones abilities that will define you
sidenote, how i see darkstalker’s soulreader: there obviously isnt a way to objectively tell someone’s goodness vs evilness in such binary terms, magic or not. the soulreader is based on darkstalker’s idea of goodness and badness, and it reads based on his ideas of morality. this is why it saw clearsight and fathom as mostly good, having been dragons darkstalker loved, and it spins out reading darkstalker because its picking up on his own insecurity & doubts which conflict with the very uncomplicated thinking that he enchanted the reader with
theres so much else i could ramble about like how i wish turtle wasnt given his powers back and how weirdly tui writes the abuse of animus dragons like a metaphor for mental illness yet they actually have literal infinite power over all other dragons so it slips on itself and the MANY MANY plotholes she created or obvious spells that were ignored and all the moral consequences that werent properly explored but im tired lol
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celticcrossanon · 4 years ago
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I’m so sorry for the rant. I just needed to clear my head and got compelled to do it in your inbox. 🙇🏾‍♀️
Not a question just some thoughts. Sorry I’m spamming you so much. I just read your latest reading about the wanna be“tour” and all I can do is SMH. I think to some extent we saw this coming but they are dialing it up and expanding. Conscious humans would’ve called it quits by now. The Remembrance Day pap walk, Going to elementary schools, “donations”, writing letters like they are world leaders, etc. On one hand I can’t see this becoming much of a “thing”. I don’t think MM and Jarry will go on doing this for long unless they can get some Hollywood to pay attention and acknowledge them. I think another reason with the more public European Royals work so well in their media is because their countries are relatively small, like California and Texas are on the large side in comparison, am I right? So much can happen on one side of the country that I only hear of thanks to friends back in California. I can’t see these two visiting any farm in Montana as “royals” if ever. They got a Clinton and Perhaps more big names and “engagement” is to come (oh god 🤦🏾‍♀️) I’m sure they and the sugars are just loving it but it all looks, sounds and feels so incrediblly STUPID & ABSOLUTELY VAPID AND INSULTING. etc etc. I cannot stand entitled people and the fact that these two cut off, trashed, and demand from their own families for a fleeting moment in the spotlight is unfathomable. That’s a testimony to how strong narcissistic delusions can be. It must be the best high I could ever ask for. 🖤Im new to “Royal Watching” if you can call what I do ‘that’, so I don’t really care about all the other indiscretions. I don’t trust the media and I think it’s just the BRF turn in the hot sun to catch hell. See Andrew, see the Clintons and all the others. Whatever drama is going on with Charles, see the rest of big business. I’m a narcissistic abuse survivor and I still study on the disorder. Now here I am watching these two who make my skin craw, this train needs to SPEED UP . I think I’m just looking for a bit of JUSTICE in the world right now. Between this administration, COVID, my job and all my other drama (I’m sure we all have some, if not BLESS YOU and pass it on 🥺) I’m flabbergasted and a little sick in my stomach at watching yet another set of people be able to walk through life seemingly so unbothered. It’s like the world is closing in and I’m suffocating. 🖤Like, your telling me that just because he was born a Prince and she married him and found a way to have children they get to get away with all of this?. The entitlement, the lies, the forced Wokery, using heavy and important subjects like mental health and racism for a PR boost all just to get a⭐️ on the Hollywood walk of Fame? For a couple of royals they sure know how to dump cold water on ya, they are the epitome of LIFE ISNT FAIR. And I’m sure that all depends on perspective, for example; their sugars who must be going diabetic RN. THEY think they have suffered as well. Look at the Cambridge’s who have not put a foot out of place yet have to deal with these tantrums from all over their family. All families have drama and I can see how the Harkles and the rest could be a payback of the Firm and family as a whole. The Queen covered so much and never really saw that Henry and Andrew and god knows who else were set straight. Look what having so much privilege can do. But is there a limit, anywhere?🖤
🖤Anyways, another thought I had was, this could be the end for any thought of reunion. This Narcissist has worked her magic and this clueless tone deaf fool has really gone and done it. I was driving and I thought of Prince William and the entire remaining Windsors & Mountbatten Windsor’s and the whole Aristocracy cutting the Harkles off entirely because the BRF called a wrap (or had to) and the UK became a Republic after Her Majesty. MM get the privlage in her narcissistic head that she’s the last ever to become a Duchess, Cathrine wouldn’t become the Princess of Wales and it all came down in part because of her and Henry’s actions. Yes Andrew and whoever else aren’t helping but these two made it exceptionally difficult. I think they would take pride in that especially publicly but only when they are praised for it. I think the Cambridge’s would have an easier time with moving on with their family, free to live as they please with no pressure to serve the public. Cathrine can be “lazy”, sleep in, & raise her kids and Wills is free to🖕 the paps who would surely still follow them. A La “where are they now”. The two that would have it the worse are the Harkles as they last bit of what they had to separate them from the rest of Hollywood is gone, no more Royal sheen but they don’t have much now. It would be stupid to use the titles after an abolished monarchy but they’d do it and expose themselves further.🖤 If you made it this far, one last thing. I got cut off while driving. That’s not unusual in this Miami traffic and usually i ignore it but with my mental state I couldn’t help but to compare. it was a packed road and I just really wanted to know where the heck the fire was. Why did this person need to rush so much on a busy road that no one else mattered even though we all have somewhere to go? That’s how I feel about the Harkles. What’s the point, where are they going? They went to New England for Christ sake to play faux royalty, in more trashy outfits might I add. 🤦🏾‍♀️
I guess I do have a question, DOES THE WORLD REALLY BELONG TO THOSE WHO JUST Get UP AND TAKE IT?
Thanks for humoring me and providing this space. ✌🏾
Note: My apologies for this very long post, everyone. I can't put a page break in and the writer needs to let it all out. I am sure a lot of you will be feeling somewhat similar to them.
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Hi april14vc,
You are welcome to rant here.
It sounds like you have a lot going on at the moment and it is all becoming a bit much to handle, as there is no relief anywhere. Is there something fun and relaxing that you can do for you sometime today, just to have a break from it all? I feel like you need to tune out for a bit and do something that is just for you.
I am so sorry that you suffered from narcissistic abuse, and so glad that you survived this. I think the Harkle shenanigans must hurt you in a more personal way than those of us who have never suffered under a narcissist. It is very hard to watch the Harkles seemingly get away with all their entitled abuse without any form of justice coming for them.
I think the Harkles are suffering. They usually are unable to get any sort of attention from the media unless they pay for it, and even then they don't trend - it is a 'blink and you miss it' situation. Look at what happened with Meghan's 40 for 40 program - it was dead in the water before the day was over, and she spent a fortune on PR for that. Compare that to the natural (not paid for) hype that surrounds anything that the BRF does, especially the Cambridges or HMTQ. That hype and attention is what Meghan wants, and she is not getting it.
What the Harkles are getting, and what they hate, is mockery. Look at the response to their Times 100 cover. Look at the comments on this pseudo-royal tour. They are a walking joke, and no narcissist would like that. They tried to cull all negative press while they were members of the BRF, were unsuccessful in stemming all of it, and now have no clout at all to stop any negative media attention. The Harkles may live in a delusion of success, but to the vast majority of people they are no more than very risible z-list celebrities.
The Harkles also have serious money troubles. They may be ignoring them, but those debts will have to be paid, one way or another.
What we are seeing now is the slow slide of the Harkles into obscurity, and their desperate attempts to reverse the process, which never work. They are no more popular and wanted now than they were at the time of Megxit, and in fact their popularity has declined since those days. They may look like they are winning, but it is all an illusion, caused by the amounts of money they are prepared to pay to give the illusion of wealth and star-quality celebrity. The paid for events happen, and then nothing. The paid for PR happens, and then nothing. Their slide downwards continues, and nothing that they do is reversing it.
Yes, at the moment they are on a high and beaming put of every report on their activities. Wait a week and then see where they are. This is like the Oprah interview all over again.
My next reading is going to be on the consequences of this pseudo-royal tour for the Harkles, so maybe there will be some justice for you there.
Edited to add: As for taking down the monarchy, I can't see that happening. For starters, the British government would have to put the matter to the people for a vote, and even if they are insane enough to do that, I can't see the British public voting to remove a beloved Queen because of the antics of two people who are despised that that country. The logistics of replacing the monarchy are also staggering - you have to rework the entire government of not just Great Britain, but of all the commonwealth realms who have HMTQ as Head of State, and that is not an easy task or a light undertaking. In addition, those Commonwealth Realms can keep HM as their head of state even if she is ejected by the British people (which would never happen, but I am stretching the bounds of probability here). After HMTQ comes Charles, who will have a short reign simply because of his age and health, and then William will be king, and he is also loved by the British public. I just can not see all that thrown away for the Harkles, who are rightly hated by the British public.
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electrificata · 4 years ago
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Venus i want desperately to hear your theory abt brad pitt syndrome
ooooooh boy ok. also @lascapigliata and @fairiewick asked abt this, so here we are.
tl;dr i find it amusing to watch handsome men have to reckon with the consequences of being handsome and i gave it a name.
ok so brad pitt, right. voted sexiest man alive twice. so handsome it almost loops around to being boring again. dude looks like a leading man bred in a lab. and he’s cast that way! they try to at the start of his career, at least. but years ago i read a review of....pretty sure it was burn after reading? that said he was a “character actor in a leading man’s body,” by way of explaining his weird performance. this is a dude who doesn’t WANT to be a square-jawed leading man with dreamy eyes, he wants to do weird shit. and you can tell by the kinds of roles he takes (when was the last time we saw him in something like mr. and mrs. smith?), but also by stuff like. the gross facial hair he spent years of his life sporting off-camera. dude's not trying to look his best, he's trying to look like "himself," and "himself" might be a little bit of a weirdo. or at least thats what he wants to be.
anyway this isnt just pitt. the model goes wider. there are plenty of actor men who are really really traditionally handsome. like 6ft+, built, usually blonde. and exactly intelligent and creative enough to have a fraught relationship with their own handsomeness. probably cuz its keeping them from doing Acting rather than just acting (he wants to have weird facial tics. he wants to do an accent.) so they avoid classic leading man roles when they can (action hero, romantic comedy lead, etc.), even if itd pay better, in favor of weird shit. obscure biopics, risky oscar bait, genre stuff, bizarre comedy...places you’re more likely to find ungorgeous character actors or leading man also-rans (the miles tellers of the world).
[alternatively, maybe his career shows signs of launching into the stratsophere and it never does cuz he makes a weird decision or two. like...well, hang on a sec.]
In addition to brad pitt, the other two examples i can think of are johnny depp (his self-consciously chosen backlog of “weirdo” roles, his goofy acting choices in places like willy wonka, his off-camera “rebel” persona*) and jensen ackles (its rumored dude turned down the role of fuckin hawkeye, thats marvel money and a lifetime of supercharged con appearance fees to....be on supernatural for 15 seasons?). brad pitt syndrome probably doesn’t explain everything thats going on with those guys, but i think it plays a role.
also thinking of like, chris evans clearly relishing getting to play assholes after all those years as squeaky clean captain america. he’s a mild case, chris evans seems well-adjusted by celebrity standards. not a high bar to clear but whatever. im gonna keep thinking abt some earlier examples to point to for this (my instinct is to say brando, but dont hold me to that yet)
to be clear: most of this is speculation! i do not know these men! most of the very handsome men i’ve met in real life are either a) dicks, or b) shy sweethearts who hate attention. actors are a breed apart.
anyway. consequently, you get this post, where i originally brought up my theory in the tags - big pretty hollywood beefcakes fucking love being given weird character actor shit to do. they go absolutely bananas. and we should give them more of it!
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