#i wonder if i should be making fanart or smth

[bowlll]

i wish i had been a fish

[rui-drawsbox]

keyframes stuff

deja one chance just one pleasepleasepleaseplease 🙏

+another redesign of ruri's clothes bc the summer one felt out of character agdfdfg

[boarloved-art]

i like the car movies a lot.......

[iceclew]

Guess what I've been doing last night (and by last night I mean I couldn't sleep and got up again at 1 am and was awake 'till 5am or smth.... :D told ya my sleep schedule is in shambles by now)

Yeaah..I am actually suprised it took me this long to squeeze them onto my most favorite universe of all...so..yeah.. hit the old fantasy- and witcher playlist and well...the mind was loong gone..at this point... I feel like this is not really 100% Witcher-verse, but also a bit Skyrim-ish?...something in between but def. fantasy like..

So what came from it are some messy sketches I like very much :D even if Hoshina is a little T-posing, lol, but that's OK..

I love how I'm not even putting the names in anymore.. xD you should now my fav bois by now hopefully...

since I totally stole that badass posture from Zhen Qu'S fanart, I feel like I at least should tag the reference - LOOK at it it's amazing <3

I wonder if I will continue the series this time, 'cause I'd love to give Narumi a proper armour and there's a certain forest elve I'd like to add as well, BUT I know my adhd brain, and I'm making no promises here..

(and def. no more allnighters, I need to get my schedule fixed, I'm at a Con this weekend, I need to get up at DECENT times god dammit)

[ssho197]

my favourite things about xiao

i bought 2 sets of seth’s random xiao photo cards i’m excited

contents: slight slight nsfw? actually it’s not that slight but it’s not like FULL ON GRAHHHHH,, different au xiaos (modern au, idol au, high school au and also an au where he plays guitar)

i like to think about guitar player xiao, idk abt anyone else but people playing electric guitar is just so god damn attractive ESPCIALLY BASS GUITAR GOD FUCKJNG DAMMN i rlly like the way the bass sounds but i like to imagine guitar player xiao bc i wonder what those fingers could do..

i really like xiaos tattoos, this is kinda weird but if someone had xiao’s tattoo that would make them so much more attractive to me idk but i think that’s just me (i drew xiaos tattoo on one of my friends’ arm, image under the cut)

adding onto xiao’s tattoos i really like the one on his waist or lower stomach!! i feel like i’m being edged everytime i see fanart of it but they don’t show the tattoo any lower than his waist and i’m just frothing at the mouth but yea i really wanna see how low the tat goes GIGGLES SO HARD HDBDXJXJXJXJ

i like xiaos waist in general bc i really want to hold his waist if he were to hug me (or if he were to do smth else) i just like to see men small waist

i really like idol xiao but i just like to think about having the attention from the media of like, “oh my god!! who is this mysterious partner seen with the famous idol xiao??” i would like to see some angst between modern au idol xiao and his partner (aka me or aka us or aka y/n or reader)

i like to think about xiaos clothes and his shirt in game, i’ve seen so much about whether it’s a sheer shirt or if the “tattoo” on his lower waist is actually just a design on his shirt or not. i’m not sure which one i like more tbh

sometimes i think about delinquent xiao. skateboarding after school at the local abandoned skatepark, one of which we just happen to stumble across and use it as a hideout, where we meet xiao and blah blah blah whatever happens after that (idk why i associated skateboarding w delinquent xiao maybe this should be skater xiao instead)

i wanna do one more slight nsfw para but idk what to write it abt…………. i don’t want to do all the basic stuff like weiner size or fav position so imma brainstorm OK BACK right so he wouldn’t be very educated on IT right? so you’d have to be top for the first couple times before he understands it,, yes yes ik i’d rather have dom xiao too smh…..

i like xiaos quiet personality. i think i have a thing for quiet guys sometimes. i just like how they neither frown nor smile but when they smile, it’s when they’re with someone they truely care about. and i see xiao being like this. of course it’s not a huge teeth-bearing-ear-to-ear smile but more like a small chuckle or small smile that you catch out of the corner of your eye, this just makes your smile even brighter and you feel much more cheerful knowing that you’re the reason he smiled. (i really wish i had a relationship like this you don’t understand.)

[poisonarrow98]

y’know the voicemail from breach where he asks out brim to join the jam session?

and the voicemail kinda implied sova knowing how to play a musical instrument?

anyways it made me soooo excited when there were fanarts of sova with an acoustic guitar after the voicemail; really went well with his chill, down-to-earth vibe ;w;

then later i wondered about viper and if she went to the jam session (don’t think they said anything if my memory’s correct). assuming she was in HQ at that time, i figured she hadn’t gone bc of her work and/or strong aversion to really loud noises.

so ofc what does my soviper brain come up with????

here's how i imagined it: viper will be walking back from her research lab late in the evening (early morning? 1am-ish?), physically and mentally exhausted, when she gets stopped by the most beautiful guitar notes coming from inside the main lounge area.

obvs her first reaction is wondering how strange it is for another person to be up at this late hour besides herself—she knows how particular brim gets when someone doesn't follow his curfew rule. even if the musical notes have her mesmerized, a part of her is annoyed about it since she's not really in the mood to hand out punishments on brim’s behalf when she just wants to get some rest. 

(should she pretend she didn't hear anything? let them get in trouble on their own?)

(should she get it over with so that she didn't have to deal with the consequences from brim the following morning?) 

eventually her feet made the decision for her as she moved closer and closer . . .

. . . and suddenly the annoyed look on her face completely melts away at the sight of sova, dressed in his pajamas and hair half-tied back, playing his acoustic guitar on the couch.

only when he finishes playing do they have their heartfelt talk.

viper will be the first to compliment his skills and mention how she never knew he played an instrument in all the times she’s known him. ofc sova would be super humble about it; he recently got his acoustic guitar months ago when brim finally started giving him more breaks, and he needed smth to entertain himself.

atp she lets him know how glad she is to hear him getting the rest he deserves, then trailing off with a casual, ‘it’s a shame i couldn’t be there. had i known you played i might’ve reconsidered . . .’

and sova just has this contemplative look from the comment before making her an offer: ‘i could give you a private session, if you like.’

‘i would like that.’

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andddddd ending this hc with a visual picture of sova playing his acoustic guitar on the couch w/viper’s head on his shoulder, eyes closed as she gets lulled to sleep listening to the soft melody ~

[unmotivated-artist164]

ACOSF Pt.2

I got to read a bunch today so; Part 2!!

Jump in, losers

ACOSF SPOILERS!! 🙌

I KNEW IT. I BLOODY KNEW IT. I KNEW FEYRE WAS GONNA GET KNOCKED UP

The SECOND that Cassian remarked on her having the shield around her more often, it clicked.

Nesta just sitting on the rock to piss Cassian off was so funny to me for no reason.

I'm so glad Nesta is finally getting the support and outlet she needs for her trauma, after shoving everyone away for so long

GWYN AND EMERIE OMG I LOVE THEM ALREADY

"I've only had those two for a day, but if anything happens to either of them, I'm killing everyone in this room, then myself." -Me 2024

I have so many annotations to get through, oml.

"Keep reaching out your hand." OK AMREN WITH THE WISE STATEMENT 🙏

I hate the human queens, they can die (except for Vassa, we love her <33)

I'm so interested in what they're gonna do with the Valkyries after mentioning them. SJM wouldn't just mention something like that. I feel like Nesta is gonna resurrect the Valkyries or smth like that.

Eris can choke on a sandpaper dick, kill him

CASSIAN MY SNARKY ASSHOLE <33

THE SCENE IN THE DINING ROOM WITH NESTA AND CASSIAN- HELLO? IN FRONT OF MY STEW??

The House communicating with Nesta is adorable, like yes bring her books and a warm bath.

Cassian talking about how he throws himself into training resonates with me more than it healthily should

THE PART ABOUT HIM SLAUGHTERING THE PEOPLE WHO PLAYED A PART IN HIS MOTHERS MURDER, OMG 😭

Guys, I think we left Tamlin on beast mode a little too long-

NESTA CALLING CASSIAN BY HIS NAME RAHHHHH 🗣️🗣️🗣️

Nesta, can I get some recommendations from those books? 👀

Ok the mask on the cover makes so much more sense now after learning about The Trove.

NESTA 👏 STOP 👏 BEING 👏 MEAN 👏 TO 👏 ELAIN 👏

I need Cassian. On the floor, on the couch, on the bed-

Moving on

That's all I got for now, but take some Cassian FANART I have been going feral over

*THESE ARE NOT MINE, CREDIT GIVEN TO ARTISTS.*

Me when Cassian breathes:

That's all for now, have a wonderful morning/afternoon/night, eat something, drink water!

Keep being a wonderful human being!!

🫶

[sillaysii]

hi neli!!!! you probably noticed how i was going crazy in my tags over ur art jghkkjg, i just now remembered that asks exist and that i should drop in to say smth first of all, i LOVE your art!!!! ur style is suuuper cute, and your silly little mice drawings are some of my faves in the patb fandom💕 i'm especially happy abt seeing a bunch of sleepy snuggling ones, i literally think about pinky and brain cutely sleeping together all the time but couldn't find any fanart like that, so ur blog is like a dream come true to me!! like honestly i saw them and went 🤯🤯🤯😫😫🥺🥺🥺🥰🥰 i genuinely love all artists in the patb fandom bc there's a tooon of wonderful talented and original ppl, but ur style is definitely one of the cutest imo, i looove when ppl draw mice fluffy and with huge ears!!!! i think it partially reminds me of bunnies, so they end up looking like two coolest rodents at the same time!! aand that also makes ur dark pinky fanart cooler, because dp looks adorable but is still a bad bitch so it kinda creates a contrast of sorts jgkhj i love that sm but like mice aside, ur woy fanart is so cool?? AND YOUR WARNER SIBS ARE ACTUALLY AMAZING???? i kind of wish you would draw warners more just because they look so nice in ur style (its okay tho if u want to just draw gay mice i totally respect that💯💯) also this is a bit unrelated but i was sooo surprised to see someone reblogging m&m stuff kljklkjljl (as in мастер и маргарита), не каждый день тут встретишь ценителей русской культуры 😌 anyway, amazing blog, amazing art, amazing taste in music (against the kitchen floor is literally pov brain realised that he's way too avoidant and you can't change my mind), u are very cool and i'm glad i found u on here👍👍 with love from blooky💜

OH MP GOD. For your information im not used to receive so many compliments at the same time and I’m kinda overwhelmed, but in a very positive way. THANK YOU SO SO SO SO MUCH ???? Drawing eepy snuggling mice is something I’ve been made for, that’s kind of my favorite genre of brinky art </3 I’m glad you love my art style, too, i love drawings the mice with huge ears, they’re so silly <3

I actually want to draw Warner sibs more, i just still didn’t completely develop an artstyle for them, but i miss them so much.

Also THE MASTER AND MARGARITA APPRECIATOR??? I literally FELL IN LOVE with this book the second I finished it, not to mention that I’m a huge Russian classics enjoyer in general, but Bulgakov has some books that i can reread many times and not get bored. Кстати русский я тоже неплохо знаю (8 лет жизни в России дают о себе знать) :3

Anyways. THANK YOU. SO SO MUCH. YOU LITERALLY MADE MY MORNING, MIGHT AS WELL A WHOLE DAY. IM LITERALLY SOBBING /POS. PLANTS A SMOOCH ON YOUR FOREHEAD THROUGH THE SCREEN /p

[aristotels]

Thinking about art and fiction and concepts of ownership and honestly it's kinda fucked that collaborative and transformative storytelling is literally as old as time and one of the most basic human instincts that exists, but the only good word it we have right now is "fanfiction"

and when you tell people you write fanfiction they think you're some kind of cringe weirdo and possibly pervert and then the whole thing gets derailed by this bizarre side discussion into how "No it's not all porn, it's absolutely everything and anything imaginable, duh, but like, even if it were all porn, that would also be okay". Like I'm all for pointing out the double standards about how published authors who put sex into their stories don't lose any respectability (especially if they're men, and especially if the sex is cishet), but the second I, a fanfiction person, add a romantic arc into my plotty casefic suddenly I'm a fujoshi with shipper brainrot etc etc-

But it's tiring that this is even a focal point

My favourite funny and sad thing is watching people (usually dudes) who clearly either view themselves as above fanfiction or have simply never ever thought of themselves as "the type" to do creative writing discover The Fanfiction Urge, because the way they express it is like. An increasingly passionate and detailed video essay about how Movie should have gone instead, or, my favourite, a story about something cool that happened to them in XCOM or Darkest Dungeon or some other Difficult Game For Serious Gamers and by the end of the post they're legitimately just writing prose. Like look at this! LOOK! Damn if this person didn't speedrun the gamerbro-to-AO3 pipeline just for a sec. And not that there's anything wrong with those formats but it makes you wonder if that's something they'd be interested in exploring more if their wings got unclipped

Or DnD. Small wonder that TTRPGs are becoming so popular when they're one of the few increasingly non-cringe ways to do the extremely basic human urge of Tell Story Collaboratively

A friend of mine had this to say recently about his own struggles with this kind of internal bias:

i'd like to try out Thousand-Year-Old Vampire (a solo role-playing game with minimal rules to make you write your own narrative) and my toxic masculinity is getting in the way. discouraging thoughts include: i'm not creative enough; creative writing is for Floofy Humanities types and i am a Cold STEM type; it's not a real game unless it has Systems that you can Study and Master. would anyone like to say something encouraging?

and honestly that's incredibly illuminating innit isn't it. The splitting off of creative activity (not just fanfiction, either) into something only for Floofy Humanities Types but not Serious People and the way it's linked to whether or not you can make money off it... oof.

This became a long post thank you for your patience

ngl i just dont rly care that much for fandoms... i like fanfic, i read it and write it, but i dont rly see fandom as my identity or smth i particularly care about, to me all of it is just the same as me playing with barbie dolls.

i dont think its something special that can be compared to actual literature and i think there are certain problems w booktok people relying on tropes that come from fanfic mentality. its just not the same, and i do wish people who like fanfic would sometimes also read.......some actual books sometimes

i just generally dont see what youre describing as some huge thing or problem, i think anti-kink ppl doxxing artists is the major worrisome thing when it comes to fandoms, but i think the doxxers also take the whole fandom experience too seriously

and i say this as someone who also writes fanfic, so like, it rly isnt me going "fanfic authors/readers are stupid", i find fanfic super cool to explore yourself, fanart taught me sooo much as an artist, i even enjoy roleplaying; all of this serves a very real purpose of exploring things as a human in realms of fiction, and pre-existing characters make that easier. i think that can be very useful, we learn about ourselves through books and stories. i just think fandom should be treated the way it is - playtime with toys ✌️

[zombiepatch]

sorry for the weird ask but what do you say that about the podcast? haven't caught up with it in some time and now im wondering if i should at all 💀

late(ish) reply bc i struggled to figure out how to word this in a non-rambling manner (failed, ultimately lmao)

i will say, a lot of people liked s4, and there were things i had fun w/ too (smth the show has going for it is the sound design and presentation and that was top notch in s4), so i wouldn't say my own complaints would bother you as much or make it not worth listening to, just that... it might and it certainly irritated me personally to the point of dropping it.

the biggest thing that is especially apparent to me are how flat and unrealistic the side characters are. like, that's always been a problem in the show, but holy shiiiit dude. there's so much drama and angst surrounding arthur but all of these side characters, who could have their own complex motives and thoughts towards him, are like "no arthur is my special special boy. also i just met him" (oscar cough cough) and it's. well. it makes me want to rip my hair out. like i can say with absolute 100% certainty that if arthur were a woman everybody would be like "god, such a mary sue" but LOL

there's also the feeling that i have constantly with this show of just... diminishing returns for conflict and massive inconsistencies. in the beginning of the show, i was making theories and paying attention to cool little details, but after a while i gave up because i started to feel like... it was difficult to pinpoint what elements of the story mattered / actually stuck and what didn't. if that makes ANY sense ^^;

like, i've whined about this before, but i still can't get over how little impact survival cannibalism had on arthur's psyche. i was just kinda waiting for SOMETHING more there that never came. it really feels like it was just forgotten. like... partly this is a me thing bc i like cannibalism as a horror trope and was like "yessss <- freaks" but surely it's not wrong of me to expect the horror show to have more to say about the whole cannibalism thing that apparently happened 😭

frankly there's a lot more i could say about the show as a whole but this is already long and disjointed so i'm gonna stop there. there's a designated negative tag where people, much more eloquent than me, have spoken about their own issues with the show / the creator if you wanna look through any of those posts. there's also a whole blog dedicated to how weird the show is about women, which is a whole other rabbit hole i didn't even mention here.

in all, after all of that, i still like john and arthur as character concepts, so i have a weird ass relationship w/ this show where i'm a huge hater but also i'm taking these guys with me. dont worry guys i'll get you out of there. CERTAINLY not out of the horrors, that's what i came here for in the first place, but... out of canon ^^;

TO END THAT HERE'S SOME FANART I DID AND NEVER POSTED;

[theaethernetconnection]

For all the reblogging of hazbin hotel I've done I've never actually watched it...

So tonight I started it, I watched the first episode ANDDDD

It's basically everything I thought it would be from the fanart LMAO. Except for like, actual plot, forgot that would be here wasn't expecting it. Cool tho love me some religious rewriting of the beginning

Alastors "this face was made for radio" I was like !!!! It's realll and it's awesome unrelatedly wonder if he has dysmorphia or smth

Adam (who I've never heard of before) is really the original dick like REALLY the *original* DICK WJAT AN ASSHOLE I EANT TO KILL HIM HOW DARE YOU TALK OVER MY SWEET LOVE FOR LIFE MAIN CHARACTER

also that song she sang (forgot her name) what a Broadway entrance song Fr like Rapunzel levels of optimism even though she's lived in hell all her life fucking crazy /pos

There's so many famous actors in this show??? What's going on it's like professional out here

Alastors got smth funky going on why is he so powerful does no one else have his powers? Why does he not want to be videoed? Like yeah yeah I get it radio the superior medium but no one normal freaks out at themselves being videoed by burning the person's hand to get them to stop like bro what's up

The angel designs are amazing they've got as little features as possible and I think that's perfect

OH ANGEL THE PORN STAR they're fucking awesome I love their whole thing like they're sooo into it and it's somehow wholesome to me. Also the "tufts people think are boobs" line got me as a nonbinary person I was like soooo real GENDER

And the grumpy guy making drinks love his thing too he's so character

The main characters best friend is probably one of the best best friends I've seen in a show. Very qpr vibes but the MC is the clueless one lmaooo esp with that whole "I love your theatrics line" wow she's so 100% supportive of her. Made a whole commercial and deal with a devil just for her, peak lesbianism what who said that

On that note alastor and angel hitting on him was so funny they should get together I think

I also have no idea of the fandom ships yet so bear with me lol

This is such a ramble omg anyway I'm enjoying this show lol first EP down

[ttimecode]

i see you asked for whismur waif... i offer you 1 5 9 13 14 with jayden.... cold boyfie

dude this made me realize i've literally never talked abt jayden. i posted abt him maybe twice and dipped 😭😭 WELCOME BACK COLD BOY

1. what are the basics of your self insert? name, date of birth, height, etc.?

i don't have a last name for jayden oops.... all my s/is dob is same as mine, october 10th (with the exception of reynold bc theres already idv characters that have that bday) also one thing i dont think ppl know is that all my inserts are usually demiboys. either that or just amab ig, whatever fits more 👍 idk how tall jayden would be but... maybe shorter than blake, taller than red? idk the height differences from frostkisses fanart is cute to me

5. does your self insert have any special abilities or skills?

no special abilities except sheer fucking will. for skills ig he'd have any skills a mountain ranger would need? stuff like ice climbing, medical aid, etc. maybe resistance to cold too since. i mean c'mon it's mt. silver HAHAIFJEJ

9. who are your self insert's closest friends?

i gotta remake his team soon but one of the pokemon that just seemed natural that i should keep for him is his houndoom for some reason? she's his best friend ok.... other than that i guess nurse joy since he probably stays at or near the pokecenters for his job. they respect act other's line of work yk.... but now that i think about it, i guess he's kinda lonely up there. huh. interesting

13. does your self insert have any information about their family?

i did have an idea where raiden (s/i for gold (the lost silver one)) was related to jayden but it's not set in stone so. plus the timeline is kinda weird especially for the fnf version of the characters so........ otherwise i haven't really thought abt jayden's family? maybe he writes to them every now and then. maybe he wonders if they miss him or if they're worried about him. but that's the sacrifice he made to take this job, so he can't exactly complain.

(cartridge family pls save him)

14. what hobbies does your self insert have?

i haven't thought much about this but i think it would be funny if he liked cooking. even better if it's baking. maybe he got sick of eating cup noodles or smth and wanted to expand on his skills HAHAHAFJEJFN 😭 maybe smth like sewing too? he'd need that kind of skill for like sewing stitches or for any clothes he tears so it makes sense (why am i turning him into a malewife.......)

[fish-bowl-2]

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5. Something you see in fics a lot and love Little petty bickering between Eddy and Edd <3 wtf is their problem? <3 I also dig how a good portion of fics I've come across kind of settle their interpretation of the show sometime inbetween the 90s and early 2000's. I've grown to be very fascinated with the concept of Y2k "period pieces" (that sounds so weird to say, even as someone who was significantly too young to actually "experience" that decade).

6. Something you see in art a lot and love The genre of "Edd crying" fanart I'M KIDDING I'M KIDDING (I do kind of love it sorry it is a little funny. Maybe we should chill a little though and give him some sleepytime tea instead or smth) Being serious now: I love the variety of styles people depict the characters. From those who master recreating Antonucci's art style (serious kudos to you and it always looks so stellar) to people who find ways to creatively interpret them in their own style. It is all just really fun!

11. If you're a writer or artist, what fic or piece of art are you proud of making? I'm still pretty happy with You Know I Should Be Leaving Soon. I had a lot of fun working on it, and all the wonderful responses I got were really touching (apologies for not getting back to them immediately, I've been meaning to address them in the notes of a new fic when I get around to working on that). I have an a few unfinished drawings lying around that I also like, but also I need to goddamn finish them. I hate executive function in combination with school fml.

16. A tiny detail in canon that you want more people to appreciate Edd really likes excuses to dress up and act. I mean, all the Eds do, but Edd always appears very enthusiastic to take on the role of explainer, doctor, teacher, anything that makes him out as the most professional person in the room. It is absolutely extra, but in that kind of endearing way when a kid gets excited about something they are interested in. I love it when he uses any little thing as an excuse to bring out heavy-duty scientific/medical equipment even when it is something like pulling a quarter from the sidewalk lmao.

[grimsley-official]

((hey super sorry for the ooc ask didn't know where else to say this lol, but i don't really follow rp accounts but what i've seen of yours is pretty fun! but can i respectfully request that you not spam the grimsley character tags as much as you do, i'm the kind of person who likes to check the tags of characters i like for fanart and other content and the grimsley tags have become very hard to navigate as i just get walls of your posts and almost nothing else and respectfully it's gotten a little frustrating, again absolutely nothing against the blog or the person running it but could i request you not constantly spam the character tags as much? your not forced to of course i understand wanting visibility on your blog and stuff but it's making the grimsley tags a bit hard to use for me personally))

//Ah, I’m sorry!! I’m not sure how else I would tag my content though?? I’m producing Grimsley content…so I’m tagging it as so. If you have recommendations of what else I should tag that would be wonderful, but I’m just not sure how else I would be tagging smth that very clearly fits the Grimsley tags :( sorry anon//

[mcl38]

merc social media admin should have kept it within the team and made that post with lewis and george instead. it would have done wonders for building team comraderie!

merc social media team has annoyed me countless times like. idk if the ai japan poster was the fault of specifically the twt admin but they sure did do that instead of commissioning an artist (or like using fanart - rbr has featured fanart a lot in their official race posters and i love it sm). and also dont quote me on this but i rmbr recently being miffed abt smth the social media admin had said abt lando, pretty sure it was smth abt how landos sprint pole shouldve been deleted (not true) so lewis could get pole. so like when i see them now sucking up to lando fans i know its just a part of the corporate game and dont rly care for it. i also think its a misunderstanding of the joke - the [total of x wins] joke is only charming when the person with the least wins / championships makes it themselves (like daniel & lando have done before). when the merc admin does it, it reads simultaneously like theyre belittling lewis's records & that they're putting down lando

that said idk how merc is choosing to present their team dynamic online so i cant comment on the george thing. idk the lore - r the girlies fighting? but i do think if theyd done that joke w george it wouldve been even more embarrassing for multiple reasons. one bc it wouldve been derogatory at george's expense (making fun of his one win). but two (& way more importantly) it wouldve shone a big spotlight on the elephant in the room - which is that since george joined the team theyve only been able to score a single win

[sunnitypes]

happy cql anniversary!! thanks to this show i got back my confidence in drawing and thats more than i could have hoped for going into 2020 tbh