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Do you ever think about the re-emergence of the Marvel Television banner with "Agatha All Along"
Do you think about how that banner was used to shove away the TV projects from Marvel Studios prior to Disney+?
Do you think about how that banner was used by fanboys to claim AoS and the Defenders weren't canon since it was "separate"
Bc I do
#i love you brad winderbaum#if ANYONE tries to claim that anything under marvel tv isn't canon#i will just show you agatha all along#agents of shield#aos#agents of s.h.i.e.l.d.#daredevil#jessica jones#agatha all along#marvel television
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begging you people to just be normal about today's episode. "oh we did not get an agathario kiss" "i dont care about billy" "worst episode ever"... but we did get a gay kiss in a MARVEL show on fucking DISNEY PLUS. isnt that something to be happy about? that we're getting more queer rep in marvel? or are people just watching the show for agatha and rio? fuck the lore then? fuck the storytelling? fuck everything? oh please
#agatha all along#agatha harkness#billy maximoff#billy kaplan#please just be fucking NORMAL.#i get it that youre mad but like. stop being petty.#we're getting a full episode just with agathas backstory#rio is going to show up in this episode obviously#but you guys still want to shit on billy because OH HE TOOK THE SPOTLIGHT#guys. i beg you. STOP.#i did not like BILLY that much before this episode too but what some people are doing is fucking EVIL
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Lilia said, “I loved being a witch” with the same conviction and passion as if to say: I loved being alive. I loved who I am and who I was and who I will be, despite all the time I spent trying to deny it and force away my visions and powers. I loved being a part of something, a community, our small dysfunctional coven. I have loved this messy, scary, wonderful thing called existence and the heartbreak and power that comes with it - I have loved it all along.
#Lilia chooses to be loudly proud of what made her terrified before#she is empowered and it’s the most conviction and confidence she shows in the entire show#I will miss you Lilia though this is just the beginning#after all time isn’t linear#is she fictional? yes. but what she represents to so many people forced to hide in shame makes her a real reflection#agatha harkness#agatha all along#hahndavision#agatha all along spoilers#agathaallalong#patti lupone#lilia calderu#marvel#mcu#episode 7
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Obviously next week could prove this all dead-wrong, but I don’t think the trial’s quite over. I don’t believe the end of that episode actually took place, because I’m pretty sure we’re still firmly in the “punish Agatha” phase. Rio’s suddenly gone. Alice seems to be dead by Agatha’s hand, and no one—including Teen, who has always been on her side—seems primed to believe she was out of control. The others have been sucked beneath the power of the surrogate son who not only just told Agatha to fuck off, but went full-Wanda to do it. It just all seems too tailored to cut up any of the character progress Agatha’s made on the Road thus far. Getting harassed by her ghost mother and hearing her son’s voice don’t feel like a complete tear-down. This does. It feels like more trial.
#agatha all along#agatha all along spoilers#agatha harkness#show next week: punt your theory into the SUN idiot#it just felt so abrupt#like that episode felt SHORT and the ending came up like a two by four to the forehead#feels a lot like Agatha’s fears coming true#your coven will leave you. your girl vanishes. your not-son reviles you AND bears the power and control of#the witch who fucked you up so badly and foiled your power#it seems really interesting that this happens when we’re starting to really get glimpses of the softer side of Agatha#with her love for Rio and her mounting reluctant affection for the coven and her grief for her son#and now the idea that Teen needs to be bound up as a ‘familiar’ when she knows she’s been letting him in#he’s not yours Agatha. he’s not yours and he wants nothing to do with you#Wanda gets everything and Agatha gets sucked under#I find it all veeeery curious
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whatever you do, don’t think about agatha accidentally killing her coven at 18 and rio just showing up like “sup”
spoilers/leaks but:
WHAT IF that was the first time they met??
or that rio probs fell first bc i bet killing off an entire coven in one go would be pretty impressive to death
UGH it’s so juicy that agatha would meet rio, who is CLEARLY the love of her life, right after her entire family is dead at her hands
and that the first person she meets is someone who isn’t horrified by that, by her power?
but it’s someone who LOVES her for her power and finds her interesting because of it
someone who will still love her and KNOW her despite the awful rumours that have gone around about her for centuries
and love her for and despite these things about her
idk i like salem agatha a bit too much and this sounds AMAZING lmao
#actually PLZ think about this#i'm gonna need ALL the fics if we don't get this in the show#kathryn hahn#agatha all along#agatha harkness#rio vidal#agatha x rio#literally just saw someone else has posted about this IM SORRY I HAD THIS IDEA ON MY OWN BUT I AGREE WHOEVER YOU ARE 😭
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I feel so normal about the producer having to turn her headphones off during the agathario kiss because Kathryn and Aubrey were so deep in it. I feel SO NORMAL ABOUT IT
#*foams at the mouth*#what is even happening with all of this bts#I feel like the show ended and everyone went#‘GREAT now we can REALLY tell you how chaotic and unhinged this set was’#and I’m not handling a single second of it well#i saw someone say that kathryn and Aubrey wanted an agathario kiss even more than we did and they’re so right#now we know why kathryn moaned at someone saying Aubrey’s name 👏🏼#honestly at this point I think they’re just trying to murder me#agatha all along#agatha harkness#agatha x rio#agathario#rio vidal#kathryn hahn#aubrey plaza
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My Two Cents on AAA EP6...
The hateful response to episode 6 has unfortunately solidified a thought I've been thinking for a while (and hoped I was incorrect on);
People don't care about true storytelling anymore.
A genuine, well-rounded story is built with so many moving parts and players. Agatha, while being the main character, is not the only important piece on the chess board, she's just the one we're focused on. Billy (or Lilia or Jen or Alice etc etc) are just as pivotal to the outcome.
We have the opportunity to witness some of the most heartfelt, beautiful storytelling in years and the second the story pivots to build out plot, there's a riot. Torches and pitchforks and for what? For answering questions people have been asking since episode 1? For adding another layer to the lovingly-crafted onion that is the story of Agatha All Along?
I love Agatha and Rio. I've been dying to see more of them since episode 1, but if your response to a potential ship is to render the rest of the story irrelevant, why are you watching the show at all? At this point just wait and watch the clips of the ship once the show is all over. Or write fanfiction like the rest of us if things don't go your way.
Rio and Agatha's relationship isn't the point. It's a bonus. It's a wonderful treat woven in—just like Billy and Eddie. To quote this post from the brilliant @the-scarlet-witch-22 ;
"...reducing Agatha Harkness to just being one half of a romantic ship is doing such a disservice to her character and the entire purpose of Agatha All Along."
Agatha is brilliant, cunning, and interesting; with and without Rio. She is a whole woman. She is not half of a character without a partner. And Agatha All Along is not half a show for prioritizing plot over romance.
Also, is it not worth celebrating that not only do we have a lovely, explicitly queer character in Billy Maximoff—but also that we have the privilege of seeing him fleshed out, where years ago he'd have been killed off-screen (or worse)? That he is a key player? From someone who spent years watching queer characters die left and right, it is a gift to live in a time where they not only get to live, but have relevance. It is a gift to watch Billy's story evolve alongside Agatha's.
There are valid concerns in the ether, but don't let fear become hatred; the second it does, we're no better than those who want to see all of us gone.
#agatha all along#agatha all along spoilers#kinda#at the end of the day folks it is a SHOW#also apologies scarlet-witch-22 if you didn't care to be tagged i just wanted to cred your thoughts properly!
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Agathario | Parent & Teacher AU
Agatha is a single mom and this weekend Nicky is with his dad (who Agatha HATES considering he cheated on her and threw away 9 years of marriage but atleast Agatha finally got out of that terrible relationship and realized she was a raging lesbian)
Agatha was planning on spending her Saturday alone sipping on wine and watching terrible hallmark movies until she realized that day would’ve marked their 10th anniversary and all of sudden she didn’t want to pathetically rot alone in her big house that was way too lonely without her sunshine of a son so she slips on her sluttiest dress and ends up some packed bar
Most of the crowd was in their 20-30s but for some reason she didn’t feel old. Okay she did but it didn’t bother her so much because she knew she looked hot and she overhead at least 7 different people call her a milf so Agatha felt pretty good about herself
Agatha was sitting at the bar, on her second drink, when someone slid up on to the stool next to her. Agatha looked over, it was a woman probably in her 30s with short dark raven hair and big brown eyes that looked innocent at first glance but it was clear by the woman’s smirk and the tongue that pressed up against the inside of the woman’s mouth as she looked Agatha up and down that she was anything but innocent
Agatha learns that her name is Rio and Rio was wearing the most delicious slack and crisp white shirt with a couple buttons open exposing a hint of cleavage that made the older woman’s mouth go dry
She also learns that Rio is a sweet talker and there’s something that Agatha just can’t resist so that’s how they end up making out in the bathroom and then in the passenger seat of Agatha’s car where Agatha finally understands the logics of Chappell Roan’s song Casual
The sex is so good, it makes her head spin, and it’s on her drive home alone that she realizes she doesn’t even get the woman’s number or last name. Agatha knows this is going to haunt her.
With the weekend coming to a close, Nicky is dropped off back home Sunday night where they eat his favorite dinner and get his backpack ready for his first day of 2nd grade tomorrow. Agatha lets Nicky pick out a new SpiderMan shirt to wear, even though she wanted to dress him in a stylish Zara kids fit, but she realizes that kids are only kids once and relents
The next morning, the school blacktop is bustling with kids and their parents. Some kids are crying and some parents are too. Agatha was more composed than she thought she’d be, wearing her work clothes to head to the office right after this and her hair swept up into a claw clip.
One cue, Agatha’s ex husband shows up and she had to plaster on a fake smile when her son runs up to him and gives him a hug. Together the three of them walk over to Nicky’s classroom and line up with the other families waiting to situate their kids and meet the teacher
“Woah buddy! Awesome Spidey shirt! I’m Miss. Vidal but call me Miss. V!” Agatha hears the teacher say and it itches something in her brain. She was busy fixing Nicky’s hair so she wasn’t looking at the teacher but once she did, her jaw fell slack. Both of theirs did. Rio.
Rio dressed very different from the bar. She had a sundress on and a soft cardigan on top. She looked like real life miss honey and since that was Agatha’s first girl crush growing up, it was really doing something for the older woman.
Rio, amidst her shock, is able to reel it in and introduce herself. She shakes the hand of Agatha’s ex and tries (and fails) to mask her reaction when he introduces himself as “Nicky’s Dad”. Agatha quickly remedies it though and clarifies they are not together anymore. Agatha even lets out that she is now a lesbian. Very loudly.
They drop Nicky off, who is clearly already in love with Rio, and Agatha takes one more glance back and is met with Rio staring back at her
Because agatha is so busy at work and Nicky’s dad sometimes picks and drops their kid off to school, Agatha doesn’t see Rio again a few weeks later when Agatha gets a call from the school that that Nicky had gotten in trouble and she needed to come in asap
When she gets to the school office, Nicky is sitting there with the principal and Rio. Apparently Nicky pushed down a boy who said something homophobic about Agatha and at the moment and in the office she reprimanded him but once outside she told him good job.
Rio sends Nicky back to gym class and that leaves her alone with Agatha. With the kids in a different class, Rio invites Agatha to see some of Nicky’s work and they go. Theres a lot of tension and they almost kiss again when Rio is perched up on her desk and Agatha feels a pull towards the younger woman but the school bell rings. Rio tells her she wants to see her again and Agatha can’t agree fast enough and they exchange numbers.
They start hanging out and by that I mean having sex, when Nicky is away with his dad, and Rio can’t deny she’s falling in love with this woman but Agatha is afraid because she’s been wrong about love before but also because this was Nicky’s teacher
And because that, Agatha proposes they stop whatever they are doing and Rio is crushed beyond words
One day, Nicky gets in the car and goes on and on about his day at school and he casually mentions that Miss Vidal asked about her and Agatha doesn’t know if she’s enraged or horny or both so after dropping Nicky off at basketball she is angrily banging on Rio’s door with an argument on the tip of her tongue until the door opens and Rio is wearing one of her crips shirts again but this time with a pair of glasses slipping down the bridge of her nose and Agatha can’t help but throw her arms around her and kiss her hard
They start sleeping with each other again after that but the unspoken rules that they don’t talk about their feelings or label whatever it is they are doing
One time, they spend the night at Agatha’s house and Rio slips out of bed in the morning to get a glass of water when she’s met with Nicky in the kitchen eating cereal and reading a book. Before she could slip away or out the door, Nicky greets her with confusion but excitement.
When he asks what she is doing there in her mom’s pajamas, Rio quickly tells him some innocent lie that the boy eats up. Knowing she can’t just leave him there, she suggests pancakes and they stand over the stove together and make them.
When Agatha wakes up she smiles when she smells food downstairs and keeps it on her face until she sees what is going on. She flips out on Rio and asks her to leave.
Agatha tries to talk to her son but he isn’t bothered by it or confused like she thought he’d be. He even says “is Miss Vidal going to be my new dad? Or my momma? I’d like that. She’s so nice and funny.”
Agatha thought she was protecting her son but maybe she was trying to protect herself and in the process hurt someone who really loves her, loves her son.
Agatha gives Rio time and vice versa and they don’t talk again until parent teacher conferences a few weeks later
Agatha’s ex doesn’t show up so when it’s her turn she walks into the classroom herself and sits in one of the desks across from Rio, who didn’t notice which parent had come in until she looked up from her notes
It’s awkward and Rio is masking her pain and feelings, being professional and talking about Nicky’s progress and Agatha listens but can tell behind those big brown eyes that she’s hurting.
When it comes time to leave, they both stand and Rio offers her hand to shake. Agatha takes it and they look at each other as they shake. Then Agatha is brushing her thumb against the top of Rio’s hand and the younger woman bites her bottom lip. Then they gravitate towards each other and end up in a hug where they both let out a sigh of relief.
“You feel so good” Agatha says
“You smell so good” Rio replies, burying her head in her tousled brown hair
After a moment of just embracing each other Agatha says “I’m sorry. I miss you.” She pulls back to look into her eyes so Rio knows she means it. “I love you. I’m in love with you.”
#not beta read we die like mrs hart#and if you wanna finish it or write it PLS DO#IM JUST HAVING THOUGHTS OK???#I can’t beleive this show is ending im gonna be sick#agatha all along#agatha harkness#agathario#aubrey plaza#kathryn hahn#rio x agatha#agatha x rio#wlw#rio vidal#mcu
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anywayyy I want a whole new series after this that just shows the three years agatha spent in westview from everyone else’s perspective
#aaa spoilers#agatha all along#agatha harkness#txt#that interrogation scene was amazing#love kathryn hahn#and joe locke was so good too#i actually really liked this episode#not super surprised there’s been such vitriol tho#like the bi/pan phobia and gold star lesbianism has been there since almost the beginning#like there were a couple posts that went mask off about it#but i just ignored them and moved on because like I /know/ it’s not a majority thing. like just a small subset that I had the misfortune#of seeing when going through tags#but yeah not totally shocked that for those fans it would extend to gay guys as well#i get being disappointed with the ep. especially if it’s not your fave or you don’t like flashbacks or it just didn’t work for you#but there are a handful that are being so insane about it#like its a tv show… it’s not that deep babes
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what if all rio is trying to do is tell agatha that it hurt her too. what is rio is desperate to share this sadness with the only other person who could understand. what if rio is angry, FUMING at agatha for being so selfish in thinking that rio could never feel remorse. that agatha just abandoned her for years, potentially centuries, convinced that she was the only one to be upset, to have had her entire world turned upside down.
agatha is a selfish person and the road is testing her ability to be selfless. what if her biggest test is accepting that someone else could share that pain with her. that she never had to make rio a villain in her mind, and she never had to become one herself.
they will have their fight, they will get ugly, but at the crux of it all, when they both take a second the breathe, rio whispers “he was my son too” through her rage. maybe it is a scream. maybe a cry.
by blaming rio, and running from rio, agatha took away rio’s right to mourn; to be a mother to that child. rio will have to spend the rest of eternity thinking of it unless she acts now. she needs to resolve the only thing in her existence that has ever made her feel alive, so she can truly experience the one thing she never thought she was able to: death.
#and then rio is like ‘now I have to take Billy’ lol#only way i can see us getting a satisfying end to their ‘love’ whilst also working with the show and future and not making it cringe#i also just can’t imagine a kiss I have to be so honest with you#i can imagine a kiss in a flashback OR if we get an agatha and rio all along reveal as two baddies who give a cheeky peck in their villainy#agatha all along#agatha harkness#agathario#rio vidal#this is so absurd I know i just love being angsty#hurt comfort lovers where are you xxxx#getting out all my theories before wednesday#poetic as fuckkkkk#my last reblog just sent me into overdrive
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I really didn't think I would have to say this, but here I am.
It was obvious that ep 6 would be Billy's backstory, so why so many people thought that we would get Agatha and Rio kiss in this episode?
Like Agatha was after a fuck up trial, betray by everyone even Billy, and littery has to dig herself from the mud. Kissing Rio didn't even cross her mind, so why?
If you don't like Billy, fine. You didn't like this episode, fine too, but stop shitting on a very well written story, because you assumed you would get the kiss, that was impossible at this point. Agatha loves this boy and he will come around, so let her have something good in life.
There's few scenes that I think happened in Agatha and Rio's past, but we won't be able to see them before Rio's trial. Also, if they kiss, it could be in the past, not in the present. I still expect Rio to try to stop Agatha from finishing the road, because it makes the most sense.
I was waiting for Billy backstory, like many people, so would you please stop shitting at him because we get his kiss before Rio and Agatha. It's not a competition.
Also, if they don't end up together at the end it won't be because they querbaited you or whatever. It would because too much shit happened between them, and maybe they still love each other, but sometimes that's not enough. Agatha will never be able to trust her. Sometimes you have to move on for your own sanity.
#thank you for coming to my ted talk#i'm soo tired#i just want to enjoy good show#agatha all along#agatha harkness#agatha all along spoilers#agatha spoilers#agatha all along series#rio vidal#billy kaplan
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hot take i guess but when i watch the scene with billy and agatha where she finds out for sure he’s billy maximoff and starts tearing up, i perceive it as being bc she’s still a bit (read: significantly) heartbroken that he isn’t nicky. he isn’t hers. sure, she might’ve known from the beginning to some degree that he was wanda’s, but she doesn’t know for sure. we see that every time she panics because he’s hurt. we see that in the way she refused to leave his side when he was asleep. we see that when rio herself has to shake agatha out of it, saying, “agatha… that boy isn’t yours.” like YES logically i think she knew he wasn’t nicky, that he couldn’t be but we CAN see how painfully, hopelessly desperate agatha is to think that maybe he could be. so in my mind, she sees billy maximoff standing in front of her, finally being met with indisputable proof that he could not possibly be her lost son. how could she not tear up at that?
#idk#i’ve just been seeing a lot of edits and posts ab this scene#where people are using it to be like Oh Wow look at how much she cares about billy! she really does love him!#and i just…#i don’t think that’s wrong necessarily and i do think on some level she prob does care for billy even as he truly is#but i do NOT think the truly cares that much about wanda’s children#and i also really can’t see her being an aunt figure to him at all#a mentor? friend maybe?? a kid she’s werurdly attached to bc he reminds her of the song she lost centuries ago?? probably#*weirdly *son UGH#but i don’t think she cares bc she’s like. reminicising on the time they spent together in westview yknow?#she literally called tommy toby like im sorry but she don’t give a fuck 😭#but also to be fair i do think a large part of the climax of this show and the point of it#is going to come down to agatha continuing to develop an emotional connection with him#and i do ultimately think their relationship will be so vital and pivotal to the plot and both of their arcs#i just unfortunately cannot seem to interpret it the way a lot of you are i’m sorry#agatha all along#agatha harkness#billy maximoff#william kaplan#wiccan#kathryn hahn#joe locke#nicholas scratch#wandavision#wanda maximoff#marvel cinematic universe#mcu#marvel mcu
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Actually going insane waiting for episode 5
#this will continue until the show ends#and then I will just be rewatching#and waiting for fanfiction updates#this show has me in a chokehold#it’s bad#I love it#quite literally obsessed#rio and agatha have me screaming#they consume my every thought#if we don’t get a kiss-#I will murder someone#NOT EVEN A KISS BRO I NEED A HAPPY ENDING#let my little lesbians be happy#marvel if you fucking betray me like this#I will never forgive you#so#give me an agathario happy ending and I won’t be in your walls#agatha all along#agatha harkness#rio vidal#agatha x rio#rio x agatha#agathario#katherine hahn#aubrey plaza
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can u guys stop complaining about the ending and start drawing ghost agatha and death form rio having nasty [BLEEP] [CARCRASH] [CAT MEOWS] [SCREAMING]
#agatha all along#yap#agathario#agatha harkness#vidahark#rio vidal#agatha all along spoilers#so sad about it all just for agatha to be revivable#and also be capable of making out with rio without dying!#and also what if she possessed rio and then [BLEEEEEPPPPPPP]#you guys focus on what the man and the women do#without enjoying how good the story itself was#like yes if billy were a girl everyone would love this show more#because yes i hate men! i do !#but like ghhhh can you at least tag as agatha neg or something#sorry i just love this show so much and its hurting my heart to see so much hate immediately#i just don’t want them to discontinue it because of your reactions
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post ep 5 - SPOILERS
okay okay okay i think billy yeeted them out of the road. we see jen clawing up from the dirt in trailer footage, i think billy just chucked em back to westview. i don't think he's quite there at murder yet, seeing his last conversation with agatha, which? slay king. as a witch and practicing pagan, love him. "no, not for me" you take that negative energy and turn it right on its fuckin head sweetheart. but also please for the love of the gods don't get carried away, don't commit murder, your father would probably have a stroke even if your mother would sit there yelling you're doing great sweetie!!
also i think the reason why rio wasn't there in the last scene was bc she was collecting alice's body. now i'm imagining her walking out, seeing billy standing there alone with lighting coming from his hands and a scarlet witch crown like
#agatha all along#agatha harkness#rio vidal#billy kaplan#WE GOT IM BOYS#WE GOT BILLY!!!#actually so happy about this#but please my gay son you must resist murder#remember the threefold law#not everyone believes in it#but it might be good to follow for now#witch#witchblr#there have been some things in the show which has made me go eEEHHHHH but overall so far#it doesn't feel like an outright insult#which is nice :)#mainly i wish they'd acknowledge that every witch practices differently#which i get is hard for a rigid story format#but it would still be cool if we could see more of the variety and different interpretations within each witch's craft#oh and it would also be cool if they somehow acknowledged that witchcraft and paganism are still very real cultural practices#anyways i still love this show#even if i burst out laughing when lilia divined the names of the coven because i have seen automatic writing done before and last i checked#nothing exploded#also can we please get kit connor as teddy altman#agatha all along spoilers#ALSO COULD THEY PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WICCA IS A REAL RELIGION AND NOT JUST SOME COOL NAME PLEASE AND THANK YOU LOL#if billy is wiccan#like religiously wiccan#that would be fuckin baller#i would be hella cool with him using that name then
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Im gonna say something controversial
Some of you are disappointed in the Agatha All Along finale because you expected too much.
#agatha all along#agatha harkness#william kaplan#this is still marvel and marvel doesn't just make throw away projects ESPECIALLY one this connected to the timeline. they need to leave som#things open to further the story that is the MCU. thats how marvel projtects work.#why is Billy here? cus its a show about witches thats an off shoot from WV and they need to reintroduce Billy back in for future projects#like how Monica was in WV ans that set up her powers for the marvels. or Spiderman in Civil war to set up Spiderman in the MCU. or Agatha i#WV to set up Agatha All Along. thats how marvel works#mcu#marvel mcu#mcu fandom#yall do this all the time. you expect the Planets and get upset when they give you the moon.#.........#i saw someone say why didnt Rio and Agatha live happily ever after..... this might be on Disney but it not a fairy tale. Marvel doesn't do#happy endings. go to ao3 for that. the happiest ended we had in awhile was FATW and then Thunderbolts came and ruined it.#and maybe the marvels? idk i haven't watched it yet(no time not hate). ig maybe Hawkeye? but she had to put her mom in jail. no happy ending
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