#i was originally gonna write this for jun

[dragonsgirl572]

You know what? Fuck it.

Mar 13 -> The amount of notes that this post gets by the end of April is the amount of words I'll write for one of my books.

Update: May 1 -> AND TIME!! Thank you all so much for participating! The amount of words I got, at the time of me looking at this post, are...

Holy shit that's a lot-

Update: May 2 -> Currently outlining a storyline! I couldn't decide which fandom I wanted to do so I'm just doing a self-indulgent crossover.

Update: May 12 -> Got an idea for an Optimus-centric story. I'm keeping my original storyline but I'm started to plan out this new one.

Update: Jun 1 -> Nevermind. Currently rewriting a story of mine. I think that'll be the chosen one. Though, I have seven planned chapters so I dunno how the hell I'm gonna do it.

Update: Jun 28 -> Nevermind x2 lol. I'm continuing on with the Optimus-centric story. It was inspired by Not A Prime Situation and it's a really good book, I highly recommend it. I asked permission from the author to start writing and I got it so chapter 1 is in the works! (P.S. I'm gonna wait until after all 21 chapters are finished to start posting just in case I lose motivation halfway and stop writing for 2 years again.)

Update: Nov 6 -> Sorry y'all, suffered through multiple depressive episodes and a massive writer's block. I'll try my best to write this though.

[sunderwight]

Much as I love the idea of PIDW being rife with terrible porn tropes and interesting (if contrived) erotic writing conventions, all actual evidence in canon would seem to indicate that apart from some sex pollen and "uh oh, the protagonist has gone into a fugue state, whatever shall calm him down?" type stuff, it was fairly vanilla.

Like, that's part of both Shen Yuan and Airplane's frustration with it, I think. It's full of sex and it's not even sex either of them enjoy the concept of. Airplane was fully just trying to pander to an audience he felt he knew and could manipulate, but not one either he nor his ultra mega hate reader were actually part of.

Not that they understood that themselves at the time.

I mean I know fandom likes to make Airplane less closeted than Shen Yuan (for a lot of reasons), which I support, but I feel like in canon at least... he didn't cotton on to Luo Binghe's change in interests at first either. It wasn't until he was watching his protagonist obsess over resurrecting Shen Qingqiu at any cost that the light started to dawn. For Shang Qinghua, also, many more years have passed since he was back in their original world. He's had more time to reconcile himself to certain ideas.

What glimpses we get of the person he was before he died, was reborn, and lived a whole other life well into adulthood, would seem to indicate that he probably wasn't much better than Shen Yuan back when he was writing.

I mean he probably was still BETTER (the bar is on the floor), like I bet he could have a fantasy featuring Mobei Jun without having an existential crisis or pretending it didn't happen, but he would have probably been like "wow I guess I've been writing so much m/f porn that I can't even enjoy it anymore and my brain had to come up with something else, anyway Mobei would make a hot chick tho, I'm gonna write one of his cousins as Binghe's next wife" and gotten on with things.

Basically I guess what I'm driving at is that it would be funny if SQQ and SQH figured they had a solid handle on the kinds of sex pollen-y porn tropes to expect from the world (mostly just the occasional fuck-or-die that missionary can cure), only for the rug to get ripped out from under them because the system incorporated a bunch of stuff from Airplane's subconscious to fill out the gaps. Not even his notes. His daydreams and fantasies.

SQQ: what the hell?! PIDW didn't even have werewolves or tentacle porn monsters!

SQH, suddenly reminded of some very specific fap sessions: right?! this is definitely weird and in no way my fault! it must be because of the genre switch!

SQQ: *suspicious*

SQH: which is your fault! you made the protagonist gay! in fact it's probably your fault that I'm gay too now!

SQQ: bullshit. what did you do. was this in a draft?!

SQH: *sweating* I can say with absolute confidence that it was not! I never wrote anything like this!

SQQ: *having a crisis now because maybe he DID accidentally cause the monsterfucker stuff and he desperately doesn't want anyone to realize that he's actually into it*

SQH: *continuing to sweat because the world is consistently manifesting content from his personal spank bank and if cucumber ever figures that out he's a dead man*

[muffinlance]

State of the Muffin Report 2023-24

Happy belated birthday to my fanfics! Little Zuko turned six back in March. <3 

Behold, my annual roundup stats, because you can get fanfic from the math teacher but you can’t get the math out of the fanfic:

[id: Screenshot of an excel spreadsheet showing my 2023-24 word counts. Important info is that over six stories, I wrote 104k words, for a monthly average of 8.6k and a daily of 284 words. End id.]

Fanfic:

After not touching the birthday fic itself since 2019, Little Zuko v the World is finally finished! Woooo.

Otherwise, a slow-but-steady sort of year on the fanfic front.

Serious Face Writing & RL:

Li’s Friends has now raised $4,206.21 USD for wildlife charity, not counting gift matches. <3

Finished the second book in my original fic series, Fox’s Tongue; The Skin Stealer’s Son officially launched yesterday! (Affiliate link, so that if you happen to buy it, Amazon pays me extra money for the privilege.)

I also created a secondary tiny human, and she is a DELIGHT. She was last seen a half hour ago crawling after her brother like a particularly aggressive tripod, Hop on Pop in one hand, and slap-screaming at it until he read it to her. My children. <3

Year Six (2024-25) Goals

Fanfic: 

Gonna finish the new case of Dark Night in Ba Sing Se. Gonna finish it so good. (This is a donation fic for the winner of my Fandom Trumps Hate charity auction and is therefore due by the end of the year, so woo artificial timelines! Ah external motivations, how I missed you from my school days.)

I’m incredibly excited for Blindsiding Badgermoles, and have that same lovely external motivation in the form of my sensitivity reader, so planning to focus on that this year.

Finish the current book of Towards the Sun. We’re currently on the final field trip, so that should be very doable. —I say, using the exact same wording for the third year in a row. Honestly this one’s less a goal than a joke to see how many years it’s actually going to take me. And hey, I’ve been making progress! We now have the delight that is Lady Jun! Third year’s the charm?

Serious Face Writing & RL: 

Get a solid start on Fox’s Tongue Book Three, Face of the Wolf King.

Get out large print editions of the first two books.

Continue raising children.

Special thanks this year goes to First and Secondborn, who blessed me with the ability to still manage over 100k in a year, which is way more than I anticipated at this time last year.

Cheers,

MuffinLance

[locria-writes]

i can't begin to describe how fucking batshit this is

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[silverwhittlingknife]

hi Silver! o/ because that fanart made me wonder - would you happen to know when/where Dick's stuffed elephant plush Zitka turns up in the comics?

GREETINGS CAM <3333 THAT ART WAS SO CUTE

Yeah, I think your instincts are right - it's a truly adorable bit of transformative fandom, but I'm 95% percent sure it's not comics canon. Barbara has canon plushies, but I don't think anyone else does.

I got kinda invested in the investigation (it's hard to prove a negative!) and I ended up typing out an entire History of Elinore/Zitka, so, uh, if you're curious, meet me below the cut for:

Where does Elinore / Zitka - the animal - appear in comics?

Did Dick ever have a stuffed elephant toy in comics?

Where does Elinore / Zitka appear in comics?

We're gonna go in chronological order!

Dick's circus elephant friend was first created for practical reasons: in Batman 436, Marv Wolfman does a big expanded flashback to Dick's circus backstory as a way to subtly show us Tim before officially introducing him (so that we can have a technically-solvable mystery-of-Tim's-identity in LPoD). In this comic, there's an elephant named Elinore who loves Dick:

Aww. Such a cute elephant!

Batman 436 comes out in August 1989. New Titans 60 comes out a few months later, in November, and guess what? When Dick visits the circus, he is suddenly surprised by an unexpected blast from the past! It turns out that even though it's been years, Elinore still remembers him!

Here's the part where Elinore remembers Dick:

SUCH a cute elephant. I love her.

(Guess who else still remembers Dick even though it was so long ago. Guess which other character is about to be an unexpected blast from the past. Guess which character Elinore is directly paralleling guess guess guess sorry everything is about Dick and Tim in my mind but I can focus I swear)

Four years later, in 1993, Batman: The Animated Series retells Dick's origin story. They like and keep Wolfman's elephant, but they change her name to Zitka:

Wolfman doesn't return to the elephant beyond those two appearances, and a few years down the line, New Titans gets cancelled and Wolfman's not writing Dick anymore anyway. So the animal gets abandoned for a while, until Devin Grayson, a fan of both Wolfman and B:tAS, revives the Wolfman-era Titans team in JLA/Titans and then the ongoing series Titans 1999.

Grayson then brings back the elephant in a flashback to Dick's past in Titans 16 (Jun 2000), where she imports the B:tAS name. Sometimes I'm skeptical of TV-to-comics imports, but honestly, I endorse this one. You lose the alliteration, which is a shame, but IMO Zitka is a better elephant name than Elinore.

Here's Dick with the newly-christened Zitka in Titans 16:

Grayson also briefly references the elephant in Gotham Knights 20 and - in a final angsty callback - in Nightwing 88 (Feb 2004), where Zitka tries futilely to comfort Dick in the midst of his trauma conga line:

... And... honestly, I think that's it for comic appearances? The two Wolfman comics plus the three Grayson comics.

Both Wolfman and Grayson are writing multiple titles - Batman, New Titans, Titans, Gotham Knights, and Nightwing between the two of them, spanning a big chunk of Dick's post-Crisis canon - and both writers use the elephant for heartwarming moments of nostalgia, which means if you're doing a post-Crisis readthrough for Dick, Elinore/Zitka feels memorable. But I don't think she actually shows up that much.

For post-2011, I am not as well-informed - throwing this out to the dash? anyone know? - but I feel like Zitka the heartwarming symbol of Dick's heartwarming circus past is, uh, thematically very at odds with the Court of Owls evil!circus vibes, so my instinct is that this story element was almost certainly dropped in the reboot.

Did Dick ever have a stuffed elephant toy in comics?

In WFA, yes; in main comics continuity, no. Technically, I have not read every comic ever published, so I could be wrong!! But I don't think so.

Below, find my rambling reasoning on the tonal vibes of pre-Crisis, post-Crisis, and post-2011, and why this particular story element doesn't seem right to me for the first two.

Pre-Crisis (...okay, mostly the Silver Age): stuffed animal, yes or no?

tl;dr no, requires too much background knowledge on the part of the reader, plus the elephant wasn't a thing until later

Elinore doesn't get created until post-Crisis, but also just generally, pre-Crisis callbacks are more along the lines of this reference in Batman 129 (published in 1960), where, wow, Batman and Robin are hunting jewel thieves - and it turns out Robin recognized this strongman! BUT HOW?!

The comic goes on to recap Dick's entire origin story in flashback, on the assumption that you may not know it.

(BTW, if you'd like to know more about Haly's Circus throughout the years, nightwingology has a great post here summarizing a lot of fun plotlines and characters!)

Basically: Silver Age comics are very self-consciously episodic and kid-friendly; they're not generally gonna do overly-elaborate callbacks because they don't know what comics their kid readers may have randomly picked up or remember.

By the time of post-Crisis, comic books were being written for an adult audience buying from the direct market, i.e. readers who are collecting whole runs & don't need or want Dick's origin story to be recapped to us in full every time it's referenced. That's why in post-Crisis, we get stuff like "hey, neat, this particular soda brand is getting mentioned in several different books!!" or "in order to understand this story arc, buy SIXTEEN DIFFERENT COMICS in FIVE DIFFERENT RUNS and read them ALL ACCORDING TO A NUMBERED ORDER and also you better be following the individual plotlines and recognize these five minor characters who we don't bother to introduce!! Good luck!!" But the elaborate post-Crisis plotlines - and subtler worldbuilding like a stuffed animal callback to Dick's backstory - don't make a lot of story sense UNLESS you're imagining your readers as completionist adult fans.

So IMO a stuffed animal wouldn't be a pre-Crisis thing unless it was The Episodic Story Of the Week, and I don't think a stuffed animal is action-adventure-y enough for the fast-paced storytelling of the Silver Age. (Unless it, like, came to life and tried to eat you or something.)

Post-Crisis: stuffed animals, yes or no?

tl;dr: no, Dick's a manly tough guy, he's not gonna have a stuffed animal, that'd be lame, like something Tim might do

Part of the edgy grimdark adult vibes in 80s/90s comics is that some characters who used to be kinda silly & goofy & lighthearted - like Batman and Robin - get reimagined as Serious and Angsty and Edgy in a Tough Cool Manly Brooding Way. This massively affects characterization for Bruce, Dick, and Bruce and Dick's relationship.

(I obviously love this change & love the tense Bruce-and-Dick interactions, but plenty of fans of the earlier fluffy comics really disliked the edgy retcons of Miller / Wolfman / Starlin / et al.)

The upshot is that post-Crisis is a period when you could have a recurring reference like a stuffed elephant, but you wouldn't have a stuffed elephant, not for Dick. I think a toy like that would be too cutesy / childish / effeminate to give a male character in post-Crisis, unless you were poking fun at him.

Now, you could probably let Tim have a stuffed animal, because Tim is sometimes cool but also sometimes a tryhard loser who is faking being cool and not entirely pulling it off (see e.g. the Robin comic where he practices tough-guy faces in the mirror, or the Teen Titans comic where Conner discovers his cringy Enya CD, or when he's fanboying over Connor and it's awkward, etc etc.). A stuffed animal would be deeply embarrassing, and you'd have to be careful to compensate by having Tim do something cool afterward - but Tim's character concept allows for "he's kind of a loser sometimes."

But Dick isn't!! In post-Crisis, Dick's a tough / impressive / "cool guy" character, the kind of guy anyone would want to be, even in the flashbacks where he's Robin, and even in the stories where he's more lighthearted than angsty. It'd be kinda lame for Dick to have a stuffed elephant, so he wouldn't. I feel like Dick would be more likely to poke fun at it if someone had one, like when he's making fun of Wally for liking the Hardy Boys. Dick could have a Batman action figure, at most, and if he had one he would have it ironically.

Basically: in post-Crisis, a male character hugging a stuffed elephant feels more likely to be a punchline to me, not something poignant. (Even with Tim, Tim could have an embarrassing stuffed animal, but he couldn't hug it when sad - that's too far. Maybe Booster Gold might do this. Probably he wouldn't, but spiritually, he would. Sorry Booster ilu! <3)

Instead, Dick instinctively deals with his inner turmoil like the TORTURED ACTION HERO he is: by punching things and brooding and yelling and joining the mob and sleeping on rooftops and going on obsessive secret missions and acquiring Angsty Stubble!! Just like Batman!

(Technically I don't know if Bruce ever joined the mob but you know he would.)

Anyway as you know this is my favorite continuity and I am poking fun affectionately, but uh, yeah sdfsfdsfs. No stuffed animals.

Post-2011 / Infinite Frontier / Wayne Family Adventures: stuffed animals, yes or no?

tl;dr it's in WFA! Probably not anywhere else, but it could be.

Post-2011 stuff tends to be cutesier overall, most of all in the current Infinite Frontier era. So I don't feel like this would be tonally out-of-line with IF comics. Taylor tends to go for more meme-y references rather than fanfic references, though.

So the obvious best fit is WFA, which is aiming for a rough approximation of Silver Age family-friendly vibes - wholesome, episodic plots, Teaching Good Moral Lessons For The Youth, etc. - plus lots of Easter eggs for fanfic readers and some comic references.

And look, here we are:

Aww.

Whew - that's everything I could find!

Anyway as you can probably tell, I LOVE the elephant, so this was a very entertaining rabbit hole to go down, thank you <3

[yaseinohyena]

At the question, the dark blue-haired boy raises his hands to wave them in front of his face followed with the shaking of his head back and forth. He hadn't meant to give Kaname the wrong idea! Simply put: he's not entirely great at these sorts of situations. "No... no no, it's not that you're that difficult to come up with a gift for. It's honestly a matter of gifting you something worth it." A matter of appreciation and usefulness. Typically, quick to produce a sharp remark, he wished to come off as calmer than before.

He's readily failing on that mark, thanks to his nervousness over the matter. Calm? Damn for not at least attempting to talk himself down.

As eyes stay glued to the other boy, he feels his heartrate quickening within his chest. Was it okay? Kaname doesn't mind a simple bracelet with a specific flower on it, right? Nothing extravagant in comparison to some of the outfits designed for idols specifically to wear ( not that he WANTS to bring up any sore spots at present -- ). Knees may as well have buckled to cause him to crumble to the ground when gaze notices the very smile etched across their facial features.

Wash of relief cascading through his body from his head to his toes. One of these days overthinking situations might at last be his ultimate downfall if no one kicks him out of it, yet for today -- relief bursts forth. Though, the hug comes so suddenly Jun almost forgets to react to it entirely. A touch of intimacy through the arms encasing his form. Unexpected yet accepted all the same. He returns the hug, even if only short lived.

Though, the request to help put the bracelet on takes him by surprise. "Oh... sure! I can help you to put it on. Here, I'll take it out of the box, and give me your wrist." Reaching in, he pulls the bracelet out of its confines within the box. Jun waits for Kaname to hold out the wrist they wish to place the bracelet upon. Fingers fidget with the small clasp connecting both ends of the piece of jewelry, and upon disconnecting them, he places the bracelet upon their wrist.

With the engraved lotus facing up toward them, he drapes the ends over to meet together upon the underside of their arm. A little of fidgeting with the clasp again, he soon gets it connected. Removal of his hands, Jun peers back up at them. "Again, happy birthday!"

Call it a build-up of nerves within himself as he holds the small gift behind his back. It's not flowers or anything extravagant, over-the-top. Jun rests his forehead against the side of Kaname with a small smile. After all, thinking back on it, he never imagined celebrating a birthday together. Grip tightens on the small box. "Happy birthday, Tojo-kun." Vocals low yet with no hesitation while slipping from his vocals.

After a moment, Jun leans back to look the other boy right in the eyes, unwavering from the stare. "I did get a gift for you, and I hope you accept it. It... took a lot for me to decide on something, so I hope you like it." After the hesitation, Jun moves his hands from behind his back to gently thrust the red velvet box toward Kaname. Within is a metal bracelet to wrap around the wrist with an engravement of a lotus flower on the metal central piece. Nothing over-the-top, very simplistic little gift from him.

Kaname can't remember the last time he'd had anything like a birthday celebration, but he thinks it must have been with his mother. Maybe someone had said something while he'd been attending Reimei, but he'd been much too preoccupied with other things to really pay attention.

And so, it surprises him, just a little, to have any such experiences to call his own now. He isn't sure how to feel at first about Jun, all hesitant and everything, coming to see him just to pass on his well wishes. It baffles him, as someone who has taken this much to be always meant for someone else, never for him. Parties have ever been stories for someone else to tell, and while this is certainly no party, it feels like it all the same.

Yeah-- it feels like a celebration.

Having long since given up on correcting Jun for calling him the wrong name (after all, what's the worst that can happen anymore?) Kaname simply accepts the box, letting it rest safely in his hands while maintaining pointed eye contact for a few seconds too long. He bites back the urge to call Jun an idiot; as if he wouldn't love anything and everything gifted to him. The other boy could present him with a hole-ridden old boot for all he'd care-- he'd be touched by it all the same.

❝Am I that hard to come up with something for? But... thanks,❞ is what he settles on, a little bit softer than he'd intended, a little closer to a joking tone. He moves to open the box, curious, and a little bit nervous. Maybe it's Jun's vibe rubbing off on him.

The bracelet contained within catches his eye immediately, and he runs his fingertip over the lotus to feel the slight dip of the engraving. There's a smile on his face before he realizes it; maybe it had been there all along. He's thrilled, after all. He throws his arms around Jun in another wordless show of gratitude, releasing him after a moment, clearing his throat awkwardly.

❝Help me put it on. I don't want to mess it up on accident...❞

[bigwishes]

6, 9, 20, 31

6. Absolute Favourite TF Story?

this one is almost impossible for me to answer there are a tonne of stories I really like but to name a few. My favourite Ive mine I have personally written might be....Jun Gets Huge, Or Just a Bit Bigger or even Linkin it Big. I dunno i write a lot of stuff haha One of my favourites of others transforming me was Octusle's story where I put all the settings to max and was just made massive, or even Transformation4Life's story "Protein Makes the Body Grow Bigger" where a guy gets so massive the only thing he can wear is a skin tight poser.

9. All Good TFs Need to Have...?

For me a good draw / plot. It doesnt have to be expertly written to be great (hell I know some of my stuff is messy because I dont read and write good) but its gonna draw me in and get me invested and hold my attention.

20. What's Your Favourite TF Fantasy?

Haha, I swap this around a lot, often I find an image and get attached and spend ages fantasising about it until either I can get someone to write it for me or I write something using it or both but currently two fantasy situations have me drooling and wishing it would happen to me.

The first fantasy I have right now is there being a sample of 4 dark chocolate protein cupcakes at the gym, and after eating one deciding they taste good and taking the last 3 home with me eating them on the way and falling alseep when I get home only to wake up as a giant hunky black bro with a faint smell of musk.

only Im a lot more giant than I originally thought quickly realising I'm 11ft tall, built like a truck and that faint smell of musk is really an extremely potent stench of sweat that has all the weaker men dropping to their knees as I walk by unable to handle the stench.

and of course being so big having to eat a tonne of protein making me have a room shaking belch after I finish sculling a protein shake.

-- the second TF fantasy I'm currently thinking a lot about is more forced/tricked tf of going to the gym and being offered a new shake by a huge Asian hunk only for it to turn me into a hot Asian jock.

then after becoming obsessed with the size and muscle asking for another shake and swelling almost twice as big, growing bigger with every sip.

only to feel extremely uncomfortable and bloated belching as I lift, trying to get the pressure to go down. Being offered a 3rd shake but turning it down only for me to be forced to drink it, forced against my will to get bigger.

Becoming so bloated its visible, unable to say a full sentence without belching 6 or 7 times between each work. Way to big for a shirt and just being forced to become an absolute muscle slob.

but hey thats just me haha

31. Permanent Transformation?

Im not entirely sure what the question is asking me. If I wanna be Permanently Transformed or if I prefer transformations to be permanent in stories. to answer both, YES! I love when tf gets a guy what he wants but he gets too much and I love when he's stuck like that forever.

[my-rose-tinted-glasses]

Jazz for two

I'm so glad we got to watch this in a week because I don't think I could handle the weekly viewing. What a mess.

Let me start by saying that I read the source material and although that doesn't help at all, it's not why this show doesn't work for me. These are my immediate thoughts after watching. There will be webtoon spoilers.

Two things really bothered me about this adaptation.

First thing was the character of Seohon. This boy has absolutely no agency here and is submissive to every other character. The second is TaeJoon's (TaeYi's brother) storyline.

I could argue that these two things are connected by way of Seheon father. So here is the family background in the original.

-Seheon lives with his mother and not his father. In fact his father abandoned the family and that's why in the WT he can't play piano at home because his father was a piano player and mom doesn't want to be reminded of him. -Seoheon only sees his father occasionally at his office, he's a piano teacher, where he gets to play. -The father was TaeJoon's teacher and they got involved. He cheated on his wife with him. He was not homophobic. He left the family to be with TaeJoon. I'm not gonna go into why they broke up and TaeYi's brother commited suicide because there's a lot more characters that influenced this. Suffice it to say that in the end he was caught by someone else and basically left him.

So why they added the bully father is beyond me but I guess it makes the fact that Seoheon is so submissive more plausible. I can understand why they wouldn't want the dad and the brother story line here. But I don't get why they thought that adding the homophobic brother was a better choice.

I'm gonna echo @lurkingshan feeling here regarding episode 7. That episode made absolutely no sense whatsoever. None of it is credible. They both do a 180 in a matter of minutes. And because of the way they wrote Seheon here, it just makes him look stupid. I'm not gonna compare with the original because it really doesn't matter. It's just bad writing here.

If the main couple is rushed, don't even get me started on the second one. It's just not believable. They removed so much from their story that it just looks like Do Yoon has to be out of his mind to actually fall for this guy. And yes, the original is also a bully/victim romance, if anything he's even more violent, specially toward Seheon, so I'm not saying it's a good couple either way. But at least in the original Jun-Ha is multi dimensional and you can actually empathize with him in moments. Although I wasn't a fan of them in either media. And also this romance takes a while to actually happen so it's definitely easier to buy.

This story is full of traumatized and flawed characters. And I knew from the start that it would be hard to adapt into 8 episodes of 30 minutes. To do that they'd have to cut a lot and honestly I'm still in disbelief about what they chose to keep. All the character are so superficial so none of it lands for me. There's no emotional connection for me to grab on to. It's not enough to give a character a traumatic past. That alone does not a fully fleshed out character make.

Nothing about this story rings true for me and this is not a defense of the WT because that also is not perfect. It's way too long and there's too much shagging filler but I really liked the characters in it. They were much more complex and it all read much more believable. There's also a couple more characters that are pretty important in bringing the whole story together.

There's obviously a lot more things wrong with this but this is already long.

[If anyone else read the original and I made a mistake here please let know. I don't think I did but I've read it a while ago and didn't really wanna go back after watching it]

[ao3dorian-gay]

two of my moshang fic ideas come from the same premise.... im kind of weighing which i want to flesh out and outline.

basically. ok. og!mbj kills himself or otherwise dies after killing og!sqh, and instead of going wherever demons go, transmigrates to a svsss timeline where the Airplane has already landed, so to speak. except he actually just reincarnates as a random disciple. both vague ideas i have are making him an ding. and also he has no system unlike the other two moshang ideas i have.

the options:

(poll is above cut for formatting reasons)

also. MBJ's name asa normal Human disciple.... (family name wang, bc.. king; personal name.. 朔 shuo —- reasoning — idea of shuo as literary term for north, and the idea of “turning again towards to meet” bc it’s mbj’s re-meeting of sqh?…

but that seems like someone w that name has a wikipedia page. so how ab out 王希朔 (wang xishuo, name pending approval) which w those characters at least doesnt pull up any real person's personal page on google... idk. i'll work on it.

awakens as an an ding disciple a bit younger than shang qinghua (like… 22 to his 27 or smthng).. sqh has just become peak lord (and already working for mobei jun), and a lot of their cohort is taking on other roles (basically working in house at various businesses). perhaps og!wang xishuo originally would have. but mbj wants to see what sqh is like here. he seems so different when he's not trying to manipulate a demon... sqh is like. wow wang-shidi has suddenly learned how to use his height to great effect to glare at me imposingly!! Aren't i his shizun now??? why is he so scary (and hot)?????? System???? Mbj sets out to woo sqh; to outsiders, their power dynamics are reversed from og!world; once it’s revealed sqh is a spy ppl are like, poor wang shuo, fool in love. Except wang (xi?)shuo / og!MBJ has his own unhinged binghe shizun arc, even if the vibes are completely different lol. just happens a few years ahead of bingqius in this story and resolves quicker 

Still an ding disciple mbj , but — start time. they’re teens and the same year or just mbj being one or two years older, and “wang xishuo” is on the mission where sqh meets mbj. Stands aside and observes. Helps sqh rescue mbj more to try and understand sqh's motives. Sqh is like system wtf did i fuck UP. maybe wang xishuo, still grieving his own sqh, tells mbj: Dont trust him. you cannot, can never trust him. maybe mbj doesn’t, maybe this colors how svsss MBJ forever views sqh? Or else…idk. maybe even svsss!Mbj in a love triangle w himself, not realizing it. Sqh panicking and desperate bc mbj isn’t . trusting him, and system keeps deducting points., even if it adds points when he spends time w wang xishuo. when he finally does missions w wang xishuo again, it turns out system still counts wang xishuo as mbj for mission purposes, which sqh (oblivious!!) takes as a rare glitch in his favor !! maybe his personality made this extra he doesnt remember writing like him more than the original goods!! with how cold and cruel hs Favorite Character is to him, it's nice to see his cold shixiong and fellow an ding disciple melt a bit and actually act protective of him, even if he walks down the spy road with him...?

…I cant remember the other peaks i had ideas for lmao so ig hes gonna be random an ding disciple 王朔 / 王希朔 (wang (xi?)shuo* (*name pending approval) and the issue is . where the story starts.

these are clearly v rough sketches. posting curious if moshang nation has thoughts; also handy to have this typed somewhere

[minevn]

CONCEPTS ARE FINISHED YIPPEE!! I’m so much happier with these designs than the originals. That being said, goodnight honk schuumemememe

I'm gonna write down what is written for multiple reasons(one, my hand writing sucks, two some of the pictures are blurry, three for translations :3

Minato's: Dog energy. Ocean theme w/ every outfit. his ring is aqua marine. He has two scars. Still buff and intimidating at glance. Friendly puppy dog. Dog tag on his bracelet.

Haruto's: Less intense. More laid back and funny w/ you, more serious at work, even if he's around you. He has a reputation to uphold. Slicked back work hair, hard to style, comes undone easily. Doesn't work out a lot, does enough to maintain an average body weight. More subtle with yandere tendencies at least with you. still doesn't like people(this has been changed just a little bit). He has reading glasses. Hair more red. Wears browns and beiges more, green accent colors though.

Jun's: Nah to her long fuller hair idea. Skinty, doesn't eat a lot, focused on beauty standards. Hides moles with makeup. less open eyes, more doe eyed. Makeup, try the red, it might not look good with Jun's pink color scheme.

Hoshi's: Fingertips are burnt off from work place mistakes. Scars are burn scars from workplace accidents.

Habiki's: More messy. Ghost sleeve, barbed wire, spindley heart, stars sleeve, music, cat leg. Star spine, violin holes, sleeves continue on back of arm(I didn't feel like drawing it). Pretty lashes ooooo. Wears makeup. Goth vampire aesthetic.

Kage's: TW FOR KAGES: SELF HARM! Strangulation marks. Seems fine yet unapproachable in public, just a pathetic wet cat after interacting with people. Skull hairclip, ghost hairclip(These are used with pretty much every outfit). Pink Camellia("Longing for you") hairclip, bleeding heart(Unconditional love) hair clip(These hairclips are used on the date outfit).

Kei's: Biggest change!! (jaw drop reaction image), BIG difference from high school. High school Kei. Spoiler hehe. Dark academia aesthetic.

Yani's: I like Yani's hair. Designs will be added to Yani's clothes digitally. I already liked Yani's design before, so here's a gift! "Take me wherever you want MC🩷"

Aki's: MY BABY!! Snake coming out of skull's eye tattoo.

[phenomenalgirl9]

A Going Seventeen story: GRUDGE

Summary: When you and your friends had a competition to 'explore' an abandoned house in a remote village. However, things go south very soon, when there's a murderer on loose and you all realised the water was rising above your heads.

Pairing: Seungkwan x Y/n (in a steady relationship)

A/n: This is the third installment of Going Seventeen Ep. 95 & 96: Grudge, I recommend watching it for more clarity. The news part doesn't happen, this is the immediate occurrence after Mingyu, Jihoon, Wonu and Seungkwan were caught. I added the members who weren't in the episode, Seungcheol, Seokmin, Jun and added Y/n. Thanks to @yoonsangel08 for helping me through the plot! Hope you enjoy it and sorry for any plot holes!

W/c: 2.9k

Genre: Suspense, Thriller.

Warning: mentions of blood, murder, fighting, cannibalism (Ko Sungil), Human organs.

Rating: 15+ (read with your own caution)

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"We should have been here an hour ago! We could've met the others!" Y/n groans. 

"Others? Or Seungkwan?" Seungcheol teased, "like you didn't wanna meet Hannie?" She questioned, shutting up the older guy.

"Guys, guys, it's fine, look, their cars are still here" Jun pointed out. "You know this is all your and your dumb car's fault. We should have bought Cheol's car or Seokmin’s" she said as she whipped out her phone. "Still no internet connection, why would you guys choose such places?" Seokmin complained again as they climbed down. The cold fall air hit her skin as she pulled her jacket out of the car to put it on. She smiled remembering the origin of the jacket. The four walked down the way that was marked as the way to the village.

"Oh Omoni!" Jun said and pointed, the woman in question looked at them inquisitively. "Omoni, have you seen some young boys filming around here?" Seungcheol asked and she nodded and then asked "are you guys here for shooting as well?" She asked and Y/n said "yes omoni" and told her about the house. Jun noticed Seungcheol and Seokmin suddenly flinched, startled by a snapping sound and he chuckled. 

“Guys, this place is really scary~” Seokmin whined as Seungcheol and he walked behind Jun and Y/n towards the direction that the old kady pointed. “You’re Gonna be Fine Seokminie” she assured him and he sighed. "Hey, look at that one, that’s the one from the pictures" Jun pointed out.

“Are you sure?” Seungcheol asked, “Yeah, she’s right” Jun said. “It seems so dark” Seokmin whispered, dread audible in his voice. “It’s an abandoned house” Y/n chided, shutting the man up. “Where are the others?” Jun questioned, “Let's complete the task and click a picture of it, and we can go find the others. Okay?” Y/n asked and the other three agreed. They walked inside the house after excusing themselves, she kept looking around the house, “nothing so far” she said looking at Jun beside her. A very relieved Seokmin and Seungcheol sighed from behind the two. 

“Not so alpha now huh?” she teased and the others chuckled. The 4 reached the bathroom where they were supposed to write their names and take a picture. 

“Um.. guys?” Y/n said in a whispering panic, “I don't see Wonwoo and Seungkwan's names here”.

“But their car is here, did they not come here?” Jun said. “Guys, can we leave? Please?” Seokmin whined

“Let's discuss things outside” Seungcheol suggested and the rest three agreed. 

“If they didn't come here? Where did they go?” Jun wondered. “Where did they go at all?” Y/n asked. “I see lights over there” Seungcheol pointed at a nearby house and the 4 started trudging towards the house.

“I can't shake this feeling. Like an eerie feeling” Seokmin whispered. “Like some is terribly wrong?” Jun asked and the two nodded. “Nothing is wrong, okay! Everything will be fine. Sush” Y/n said, pushing the dread away in her mind. She can't say that she wasn't feeling that too and the look on Seungcheol's face said that he felt it too. A dread.

They knocked on the open door but nobody seemed to answer. Seungcheol entered on his own accords as the four frowned at a nauseating smell. “Argh! Whats that stench?” Seokmin groaned as Y/n and Jun went stunned seeing all the paper cuttings spread on the table. “This thing is smelling” Cheol said as he pointed at a bundle of newspapers on the side of the table. He and Seokmin tried to uncover it while Y/n and Jun started reading the articles.

Suddenly, the two cursed and jumped back hugging each other. “I-i-i-i-hu-hu-human! It's human! Hand! Human hand! Ringless. It has no rings-” Seokmin started panicking as Seungcheol put a hand on his mouth. “I think that dread just became very true” she said, almost tears in her eyes.

“A ten year old was found to have murdered his parents and eating their flesh” Jun read.

“Infamous juvenile Inmate Ko Sungil from the 2012 murder and cannibalism case was released, that's from a few days ago” Y/n said. “S-s-so?” Seokmin stuttered. 

“Didn't you see the plaque while entering? It read Ko” she said. “Fuck. This is fucked up!” Jun said to the two who were still trembling. 

Y/n placed her hands beside her on the couch to stand up when she found something. “Guys!” Y/n said and a sob left her mouth, as picked up Seungkwan's necklace in her hand. He would never take it off because she didn't either, the necklaces Y/n got for the two of them on their 2nd Anniversary last year. 

 “Something happened to him. They aren't safe” Y/n said, tears finally leaving her eyes, “fuck” she said. “We need to leave” Seungcheol said, immediately standing up. 

“We can't leave them!” Y/n said in shock. “Not the village! This house” he said and pulled her and Jun into senses. She takes hold of Seokmin and they leave silently. 

“We need to look around” Seungcheol suggested “it'll be okay” he assured her, rubbing off her tears. 

The 4 started off towards this small alleyway just behind the house. It lead to a street, village on one side, jungle on the other. He pass by a car. Jun touched it's bonnet and shook his head. “This has been here for a while” he said. “Impressive” she said and walked on further. “There's a bridge” Seungcheol said and stepped up. It's strange that when the threat was ghosts Cheol was behind Y/n but now that things got real, he's there being the alpha he is. She thanked God for this dependable friend. 

The four of them walked quietly, as if something might happen if they even breathed too loudly. They found a truck on the other side, all of the 4 frowned with the disgusting smell. The lack of any form of lighting made it difficult to make anything out, especially the origin of the smell, which seemed nearby through the magnitude of the stench. Y/n slowly walked behind the truck with Seungcheol behind you, as Jun and Seokmin looked around the parameters.

The stench increased as they both stepped closer, using their phone flashlight to look inside, she slowly parted the doors that was ajar and looked inside and Y/n almost screamed if not for Seungcheol who muffled it before it could have reached out. He held her tightly, she was shaking. Seokmin was about to peek but Cheol stopped him and shook his head. Y/n shook her head, trying to remove that scene from it, those tattered bodies with bloody blotches all over. She felt nauseated. 

“We need to leave” Jun suddenly said, shaking his head. “We can't stay here! What if they're -” 

“Don't you DARE complete that fucking sentence Wen Junhui!” Y/n threatened him. 

“But Y/n. This is a psycho killer, can we really deal with him. He killed so many people, may be we should bring the police!” Seokmin said. “It could be too late for our friends by then” Seungcheol said, a determination in his eyes that Y/n’s . “If you want to leave, you can, but I won't abandon my friends and boyfriend here. Even if it's the last thing I do” Y/n declared and Cheol agreed. 

“Someones approaching, hide”, Cheol said and he pulled you on the ladder hanging from the truck while joining himself, as Seokmin and Jun crouched and hid behind the nearest trees. 

They soon heard footsteps of a person approaching. Y/n sent up a prayer, the person spoke up revealing to be a man “What do you mean more people. Are you sure they went that way?” Muffled sounds were heard from the other side, too indistinct to understand what the person was saying “Then they must be there, keep an eye out” the man said and there was a pause. The 4 felt like their heart would stop beating any minute. In a moment the guy was heard cursing “fuck” he said and his retreating foot steps were heard. Y/n’s eyes met Seokmins who blinked, “stay” his eyes said. They don't know how long they were like that, but it felt like an eternity, until Seokmin shook his head a yes and you two climbed down and they came up to you. “Let's do this” Jun said and you looked shocked. “Sorry I got scared for a moment. If there's a chance they are fine and we can save them we'll take it cause they'd do the same for us.” He said. “He's right” Seokmin said “I'll just” he suddenly walked to the side and grabbed something, “let's go” he added, showing his newly acquired metal rod. Cheol smiled and led the way. 

The 4 of them carefully walked back making sure that man wasn't around. “Guys! Look at that” Jun said and snatched something from the ground. It's a black iphone with a broken camera and dumb stickers. 

“It's Mingyu’s” Seokmin said, “it's more broken now” he murmured. “Let's get it back to him okay?” Cheol said and the others nodded. “Let's start from the other houses” Y/n said as they walked into the nearest house. “Seokmin? Is something wrong?” Y/n asked. “There's no wifi or we could have tracked his watch” Seokmin said. And Y/n eyes went wide “fuck yes! I could've tracked Seungkwan's phone!” Y/n whisper yells “but there's no signal, only way is if we get into a 10 feet distance, it gets connected” Y/n said. “Woah. Couple goals” Jun said as they started looking around.

They looked through 3 houses, no sign of a person or clues. “It's like everything is in place, just the people aren't there” Y/n said in utter shock and worry. 

They found a huge garage and entered it, it had that all familiar stench, the floor was covered in plastic wrap that had blotches and marks of a red liquid. “This is his slaughter house, some spots are dried some are a little fresher" Jun stated. “Please let's leave, it's giving me the creeps” Y/n said as she checked her phone that still showed no sign of her boyfriend. 

They walked into a nearby house and started looking around. That was when Jun, who was hidden by the entrance, sushed them and the rest three quickly took cover. “What do you mean you don't know!” That same voice yelled, indistinct muffled sounds said something, the word ‘door’ was the only thing that came clear. “You take care of it, I'll bring this lot in. Where would they go” he said. There were some more muffled sounds that followed and the man said “yeah yeah you can, once I carve out their gut and make sausages of their meat” Was heard as he walked away. 

After a moment Seokmin said “you think that's Ko Sungil?”

“Who else could be this morbid?” Y/n muttered. 

“He has someone working with him, fuck I think we need to warn that Ajhumma!” Jun suddenly remembered. "Shit! We should have done that” Cheol said and the 4 carefully slipped out of the house, it was no use anyways, they were empty. As soon as they reached that house they found the woman sitting outside her house. “Did you find them?” She asked and you all shook your head. “Omoni there's a killer roaming around” Seokmin informed her as Y/n looked around to be sure that silhouette wasn't anywhere near. “I heard that Ko Sungil child is back, from some villagers. You saw him?” she asked and they nodded and she shook her head “it's not safe to talk here, step inside we'll discuss this inside” she said and ushered them inside her house. 

Suddenly Y/n’s eyes went wide and she was about to say “NONONO! DON'T ENTER. GET OUT NOW. WAIT!” But is was to late, they were pushed in as the woman pushed Cheol who was in the end and shut the door. 

“What's going on?!” Seokmin asked in panic. “Its her! She had a walkie talkie, it was her muffled voice we heard! Didn't you find it weird how Ko Sungil was talking on the phone when there's no network?!” Y/n said and hit the door. “Fuck! It's metal! It won't budge” Cheol said, trying to pull the door to pry it open but all in vain. 

“We need to find a way out” Y/n said and suddenly she realised, her phone buzzed. She immediately fished it out and saw a notification, “Guy's Seungkwan is near” she said and opened to be more shocked. “The pin shows him here” she said. And they immediately spread out, they all quickly opened all the doors. “DOOR! DOOR! I HEARD THE WORD DOOR. WE NEED TO BE QUICK THAT LADY MUST HAVE CALLED THAT PSYCHOPATH BY NOW!” Y/n panicked. She clutched the pendant of their couple necklace tightly thinking. “He's not here, we didn't find any phone either” Jun said and Y/n shook her head, he's here, they're here, they have to be. 

“They're here!” Seokmin cheered as soon as he found their friend in various positions on the ground. “Check them” Y/n said “please please” she murmured. 

“Yah! Seokminah! Do you remember that snap we heard and got startled when we were first talking to her” Cheol suddenly remembered. “It was the sound of something falling or like closing,” Seokmin said “but what?!” He said and crouched on the ground and Mingyu’s phone went down flying on the floor making a weird sound. And all of their eyes went wide, “the floor is hollow” Jun said confirming their doubts and they all started crawling and knocking on the floor until they found a bed and a trap door under it. Cheol quickly moved it with Seokmin’s help and they pried open the door. “Fuck, he's here” Jun said. “Y/n go in with Seokmin, Jun and I will deal with this fucker” Seungcheol said and ushered them in. “Please be careful, take this” Y/n said and grabbed that iron rod from Seokmin and handed it to Cheol as they walked down the stairs. They turned on the flash lights, a lot of sound was being heard now from upstairs, probably the two of them were fighting the killer off. 

They checked the vitals of their friends one by one, some seemed hurt, some seemed unconscious but they were all fine. They started trying to shake them awake one by one. Jihoon was the first to wake up, followed by Vernon and Minghao. “You guys are okay!” Y/n said and hugged them. She shook Seungkwan up and hit his cheeks. He groaned and looked up at his lover. “Y-Y/n? Y/n?! Y/N!! I THOUGHT I WOULDN'T SEE YOU AGAIN! WHAT THE FUCK” He hugged her and the others helped to wake the rest. “We need to help Cheol and Jun please, they're tryna stop that psychopath” Y/n said and Minghao, Mingyu and Chan started moving up the stairs in a hurry as the rest of them followed. The two however had managed to throw the psychopath down and the omoni was helping them tie him up. 

Y/n cocked an eyebrow and Cheol explained “he kept her husband hostage and told her that he wouldn't hurt him if she helped us”.

“I'm so sorry, I was so scared” she said in tears. “It's no use, I killed him” said the ties up Ko Sungil “I chopped hi-” he was interrupted as Y/n picked up a vase and crashed it on his head, instantly knocking him out. “Bastard” she said. “We're so sorry omoni” she said as the woman crumbled onto the ground. Cheol rushed to hug his dear boyfriend and checked if he had any bruises or cuts, so did Y/n to Seungkwan and then the others. 

She hugged each of them tightly, Seungkwan though, held her for a bit too long. 

Then 3 of them went to go call the cops and later lead them and the old woman to the truck full of the bodies, the old woman crumbled on the ground once again, when she realised she was the only one left of that very small village that hardly had less than 10 houses. 

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“We literally faced death together, didn't we?" Seungkwan said, Y/n wrapped in his arms as the rest all shook their heads, well whoever was still awake in that bus that the local police had arranged to take them home. “I found this” Y/n revealed his necklace from her pocket and he placed a hand on his necklace and was shocked “I dropped it? That's why I had this uncomfortable feeling of missing something” he said. “Come’re” she said and fixed it around his neck as he lovingly kissed her temple. “Thank you for saving me” he said. “We were there too you know, risking our lives” Jun said from across them and Joshua said “Thanks for not leaving us for dead” and laughed. “Thanks to Y/n and Cheol hyung, for their courage” Jun mentioned. “That's the love I think, I heard it makes people stronger” Joshua said patting Y/n’s head from behind. “I love you guys” she said “I'll always be there for you, cause you'd all do the same” she said and kissed Seungkwan on the cheek and settled to finally rest her eyes and mind. They were safe. 

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[shutupheathersorryheatherr]

“What hair product I think each svt member is”

Summery: a holiday fic that has absolutely nothing to do with the holidays! Wanted to try my hand at writing something a bit different and thought this was a good idea to start. Not really comedy but amusing none the less! (idk if what I wrote makes sense hopefully yall are picking up what I’m putting down) approximately: ten minute read

A/n: THIS IS NOT MY ORIGINAL IDEA! (In a way it is buuuutttt still) I can’t find the author who wrote the “what piece of furniture svt are” or something to that effect so they’re the ones who gave me the idea so if yall find them please tag them unless I do first!

warningz/info: mentions of pain, mentions of chocolate, I think what, three curse words? y'all let me know if I should start keeping them to a minimum or remove them entirely because I know some people are uncomfortable with them! I feel like the spacing between paragraphs is weird in this fic but oh well. no idea how this is gonna go over and im scared that I tagged it with "x reader". plus I dont know if anyone would read/enjoy it but I had loads of fun writing it! as always, if you did like it, please leave some love like comments and or reblogs!

~this is simply a piece of fiction. My imagination onto “paper. This is in no way is mean to be taken as an actual and real representation of anyone.~

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>Seungcheol<

gel. Sticks to you like glue once you find each other (romantic music starts playing in the hair care isle when you pick up your favorite gel) everyone has their preferred brand/ look they worship. Thicc. Either smells putrid and chemical like or good enough to transport you to a magical land of chocolate, pink grass and purple clouds

>Jeonghan<

he is a Bobby pin. And I will provide no further explanation on this except that he holds you together but will stab you lmao

>Shua<

an Afro pick/ hair pick. Its what everyone’s looking for: that little somen’ somen’. That little poof we all desire. Also scalp massages :)

>Jun<

wide tooth comb. My fellow thick haired/ curly haired people will know about this one 😭 this shit can be mean to your scalp tugging on your hair and UGH helps you greatly and is a necessity but damn… that’s all I gotta say

>Hoshi<

Refresher product/ moisture product. wakes you up in the morning. Gives you a reason to NOT look like you just rolled outta bed even though you did. For most this is one ofthe holy grails in life. What would I do without it? Makes us all smile even at 4:00 am because oh my god I look better after I slapped this in. Just all around a day-brightener

>Wonwoo<

curl cream. Grounding. Has many different looks n stuff

>Woozi<

a rat tail comb. Everyone should have one. Versatile, used for many different things. Good for every sort of job and is a natural to be honest and is small but mighty lol

>DK<

a satin/ silk bonnet. And no, not one of those that most  moms wear with the lace trim. Those end up at the foot of your bed by the morning. The ones with the thick elastic. I choose this cause it goes by many different names, just like him lol just has that comfy homey feel to it

>Mingyu<

hair mask. Made at home with some questionable ingredients. Seriously sometimes I don’t think he’s real lol 

>Hao<

a denman brush. It sounds to helpful and great. And it is great!…. When you figure out how to use it. Hard to figure out but once you get the hang of it you’ll never go back (another thing my fellow curly haired babes will understand)

>Seungkwan<

co wash. A little something extra, a boost of energy, if you will. a well kept secret but also a well known fact 

>Vernon<

hair tie. Easy to loose but also easy to find. especially in places where youd think: “why the fuck would it end up here?” Like idk man, but you should definitely check the dark corner collecting lint— that’s where they always are

>Dino<

leave in conditioner because with use over time it makes your hair (you) healthier

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a/n: annnnnnnnddddd thats it! hope y'all enjoyed this disaster of a fic lmao if you liked it, please leave some love like comments or reblogging!

stay safe, y'all!

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[absolutebl]

I've been thinking obsessively about story structure lately. Are there any BLs you consider particularly well structured/paced? Or at least very typical? Especially for Thai BL, since so many are 12 episodes and that makes it easier to compare. I know we can all think of examples of shows that just kind of happened without any structure...

Now in the above post I wasn't thinking specifically about pace. I think that post is more about what you're calling structure (the narrative backbone brought to light via the script).

Thai stuff is always gonna be slower paced than Korean stuff. Because it's longer and jsut less tightly controlled by the directors.

Also something like 4 or 6 act structure (popular in China, Taiwan, and sometimes Japan) will often FEEL slow to western viewers.

I think the pace of a show is partly a judgement call on behalf of the viewer, but also heavily cultural, so let me try to explain.

Structure, Pace, Plot

Structure, or the writing of a narrative script, can be divided into plot vs pace as follows:

Plot: movement of characters through time (scene by scene) and space (setting) and the people they meet along the way (dialogue).

Pace: how the plot is executed in terms of which scenes follow which, length of scenes and shots, presence or absence of flashbacks, cuts, voice-over work, but also literal words on the page - staging instructions, dialogue sentence structures, monologuing, and so forth.

Plot = what is written in the script

Pace = how it's written in that script

This is going to get further complicated once an entire film crew gets ahold of that script.

Plot is characters moving through time, space, and interactions in the show AKA WHAT the characters are doing.

Pace is how that script and story now in the hands of the performers is relayed to the viewers using camera angles, dialogue delivery, staging AKA HOW those characters are filmed.

Plot is the responsibility of the actors and script writers to convey.

Pace is the responsibility of the directorial and editing teams to convey.

Thus a part of the world that has good talent but poor production values (like Thailand, Philippines, or Vietnam) will always be weaker on pacing. But they can churn out something raw and brilliant IF they have a good script.

On the other hand, a place that has great everything but just really likes to mess with story structure and style, like Japan, might ALSO have weak pacing because that isn't their focus or interest.

In the first case, they lack the editing talent, money, and technology, in the second they just like to play with structure A LOT.

But it means each country that produces BL ends up needing to be judged on its own merits and choices (or lack of options) IMHO.

So, I stand by my list above. I think of it as representing all round story execution to the capacity of the country of origin. They are still the best story, although by western standards that story structure may feel a little off - depending on how you feel about that country's style of BL.

I might add a few to the above list (from late 2022-2023)

Semantic Error - of course. This show is perfect, after all.

The Eighth Sense - Korea went gritty and tense, outside their comfort zone, and executed it sublimely well

Love Tractor - Korea frmly and entirely in their comfort zone but the pace never lets up

Jun & Jun - a master class in pure sappy fluffy romance but still knuckle biting tension, I was upset at the end of every episode that i couldn't watch the next one INSTANTLY, in TV that = pitch perfect pacing

Tokyo in April is... - this is paced beautifully for Japan, very tense but with Japan's signature artsy atmosphere, it's not it's fault I didn't like the story

Laws of Attraction - this is a plot-based pacing story, like UWMA, and these tend to be the ones Thailand paces best using plot to amp up tension, unfortunately that best can still feel a little weak on actual story strcture and basic plotting, e.g. they can go off the rails easily like Manner of Death or KinnPorsche, but at least this kind of Thai show keep us intrigued for the next episode.

I'm gonna mention Bed Friend here as a lesson in pacing. If this show had stuck to it's guns and stayed 8 episodes, rather than stretching to fill 10 at the last minute, it would have been a near perfect high heat show out of Thailand. But it didn't have the confidence, and it likely wanted the money from those two added episodes. It's a real shame.

I gotta say I think this is the fans. fault.

People always want more of a good thing, or more of the same thing, it's why we get shitty 2nd seasons. Sometimes what we need to truly better cinema is LESS of the good thing - better editing, tighter scripts - because that way the pace will be superior.

Bah, anyway,

Be you didnt' want a film lesson with your spontaneous ask?

[minghaos-girl18]

Seventeen as Renee Rapp Songs

Just because I can (I came up with this idea 2.5 seconds ago)

Seungcheol

Don't Tell My Mom- Now some of y'all gonna hate on me for that, but S.Coups has a lot on his plate and I don't think he shares most of it. And Don't Tell My Mom message is about now wanting to burden a love one with your problems, which gave leader vibes to me.

Jeonghan

World Burn- I don't have much reasoning, except I fully believe Jeonghan would rock as Regina George.

(not that I didn't adore Renee)

Joshua

Pretty Girls- God made men and then sent Joshua as an apology.

Jun

Snow Angel- Junhui is so under appreciated like this man is beautiful (I erased what I originally typed here because *minors*).

Hoshi

Poison Poison- I need Hoshi to feature in this...although it would break my sanity

dont put "what sanity?" in the comments

Wonwoo

What Can I Do- I also need Wonwoo to do a feature in this song...also this is such a sad song, but it gives Wonwoo vibes?? Kinda similar to bittersweet, What Can I Do is about having a crush on a friend.

Also do you guys know how to send I'm sorry notes to fbi agents cause mine listened to me listening to this song on repeat for like a whole day-sapphic crushes y'all 10/10 don't recommend

Woozi

23- Our dearest songwriter Jihoon:) Again I do not have much reasoning except you know...the vibes match

if ya get it ya get it if ya don't...go listen to the song??

Minghao

Not My Fault- Its the vibes y'all ...I'm kidding...well slightly...the vibes do match but also I feel like Minghao definitely would love this song and I for one know for certain that I would in fact leave with him

(again if you know, you know if you don't say it with me "Go listen to the song" good job babes :)

Seokmin

Talk Too Much- Now I know what you are thinking but you are wrong. Talk too much is about getting in your own head. I think Seokmin does that sometimes, so thus this is his allotted song.

Mingyu

Someone gets hurt- In particular, the part where Renee says "People forget I am human too." I think sometimes fans sexualize Mingyu too much. I mean like those fan calls where fans are asking to see his abs?? like that's way too far.

Seungkwan

Meet The Plastics- Still not convinced he didn't help write this song (I feel like Boo either doesn't know this song or knows every word no in between)

Vernon

I hate Boston- I need Vernon on the track. Not really for any particular reason to be honest except...you guessed it... VIBES!

(if y'all wanted actual reasons for these-my bad...contact my FBI agent...I don't have his information if you know tell me I got to send an apology letter...might just hold it up to my laptop camera ngl)

Dino

Bruises- I love Seventeen's dynamic but like sometimes I wonder if Dino gets his feelings genuinely hurt I mean less now and more like early on (like trainees/debut era). Now I don't think his feelings were hurt on purpose, but I mean being the youngest comes with being the root of jokes sometimes. And I understand being kinda upset over a joke.

There you go lovelies, I am so happy you guys decided to stay and read until the end (or maybe you skipped through and read only your biases part-you know who you are). None of these photos are mine and all of the songs are by Renee Rapp, I strongly suggest giving her a listen. Also don't forget to support Seventeen's upcoming album:)

Also, any suggestions on how I should apologize to my FBI agent will be taken with appreciation (and if you have no idea what I am talking about you are one of the lucky ones :)

Toodles.

[1unpaid-intern]

Ok so I'm kinda new to tumblr, but I just can't get this fanfic idea out of my head. So since I'll probably never write this/ lose motivation half way through, I might as well share it.

Soooo I've come across a really good ghost/calamity xie lian AU fic (Dark Sword, White Flower by Luna04 on ao3 if anyone's interested) and I've come up with my own take on that premise, because it's just so intriguing.

(English is not my first language, so sorry for any mistakes)

Also spoilers for tgcf (obviously)!

Almost all fics I've read make it so Xie Lian dies in the coffin Lang Qianqiu put him in, but even though that'd be pretty cruel (and would therefore make sense in universe xD) I just don't buy it. Jun Wu specifically wanted to make life as painfull as possible for him both psycologically and physically. Xie Lian getting stabed through the heart for decades would be a dream come true, so he definetly wouldn't let him die. Because if you ask me, he definetly knew. As white no-face he was stalking XL constantly and you're telling me he just stopped after his second banishment? XL was still suffering, since his luck got sealed away, so you bet that he's been watching him day after day while eating popcorn and going like: serves you right little sh*t (because we all know he's petty like that).

Instead I'd have XL die trying to stop the human face disease from raining down on Yong'an. In the original Wu Ming sacrifices himself, but what if no-face stops him by scattering his soul. XL then makes the ultimate sacrifice and even though all those resentfull spirits should kill him no matter what, in order to make it a little bit more poetic let's say that right before he gets hit, XL ascends for the second time since he regained his morals and tries to make up for it. (In the process he also breaks his shakle. And I know that you're supposed to also be imortal as a god, but Shi Wudu got killed by having his head ripped off and I just have this head canon that XL would be fine after that because JW just won't let him die.)

Now the "problem" that arises with this premis instead of the coffin-death is that JW absolutly knows about XLs death. If he lets the rest of heaven know that, it'd eventually reach Hua Cheng. Aaand oh booooyyyy. If he found out that his god not only died, but none of the other gods, not even the emperor himself, prevented it by helping him, the temples of those 33 gods wouldn't be the only thing on fire. Because think about it, the reason HC keeps on living is XL, but if he thinks he's gone, then the only thing that'd keep him going is revenge. HCs end goal would then be to become strong enough to even kill JW.

But I can also see this playing out differently. We know JW wants XL to follow in his foot steps and become a calamity, therefore needing to become a ghost (as he says when they're both trapped in the Kiln). So he'd definetly consider the posibility of XL becoming a ghost. Considering the guy has a sword for everything (looking at you virginity detecting sword) I could imagine that he also has one that can tell if somebody's soul is still wandering around even though they're dead. Obviously JW would want to find him and turn him into a calamity. But if he a) tells the other gods that XL is a ghost then atleast Feng Xin and Mu Qing would also be looking for him or b) only tells them that he died then somebody might get the idea to use the aforementioned sword and leading us back to a). So the most logical thing would be for JW to just lie about XL getting banished a second time (similar to how it originally went down).

While I like both scenarios, I'm kinda leaning towards the second one with JW lying, because as soon as XL ascendes for the third time he's gonna be hella confused why nobody is freaking out about him showing up in heaven, followed up by him becoming suspicious of JW.

One thing I've been thinking about a lot was what's special about XL as a ghost king, what differentiates him from the others. HC got his red robs, silver jewelry, blood rain, wraith butterflies, E-Ming and power over luck. He Xuan has his black robes, great acting skills (seriously give this man an oscar), never ending hunger, skeletton fish and power over the seas. Qi Rong (while only having the title of a calamity and not actually being a ghost king) has his green robes, green fire locks and his habit of trying to imitate the other calamities (e.g. hanging corpses & eating people). Bai Wuxiang has his simple white burial robs, the iconic half-crying half-smiling mask, a spirit calling cloth flag, Fangxin aka Zhu Xin, manipulation and the power of the human face disease. Things I've seen a lot in other fics and that I completly agree on are: XL can turn his nails into long claws (similar to Lady Dimitrescu I'd imagine), he doesn't want to be found so he shape shifts a lot and he helps out the common people, especially children and mothers (since trying to help others and making up for his past mistakes is basically all that keeps him going). While these characteristics are great, they aren't enough to make him stand out yet. One idea I'm really proud of is to make XL a puppet master. Because correct me if I'm wrong, but the only "ghost typs" we ever were introduced to were sentient weapons, possed objects, humanoid ghosts, ghost animals, water ghouls and puppet masters. And just imagine XL using threads and puppets to fight in addition to Ruoye. Like, imagine him fighting similar to Sasori from Naruto, the Spider Demons from Demon Slayer or ErrorSans from the Undertale AUs. I also think he should stick with the burial cloths he was wearing as white no-face (maybe with some blood on them to make it more creepy) but obviously adding his signitur bambu hat with some flowy long vails.

I wouldn't change to much about he whole XL posing as the Yong'an goushi backstory. I would only have it so Lang Qianqiu finds out that his goushi was actually a ghost king and XL fleeing so he isn't stuck in a coffin for decades. That way when LQQ finds out about XL being his goushi, it also serves as the big reveal.

I'm not so sure what to do with the Banyue kingdom backstory though. I would like for XL to take Ban Yue as his little adoptive daughter, but if he went back after the kingdom was destroyed, then woudn't he take care of Kemo and the other ghost soliders right there? That would lead to Little Pei never luring people in, therefore erasing the entire Banyue arc and I don't know how to feel about that. Yes, not much would change, were it to play out, but that's the first time XL meets the "earth" and wind master. Also JW led them to Banyue pass (and also to the ghost bride) in order to damage Pei Mings reputation, so he'd lose believers and therefore would be easier to beat later on and that's kinda important. Not to forget he used a puppet for that and with XL as a puppet master he'd definetly be able to get more info out of it, leading to raising his suspicions again.

Aaaaand that are all the ideas I have so far, also my fingers hurt from typing.

Maybe I'll continue this some day, since I probably won't stop obsessing over this AU any time soon. (Also if you know similar fics please let me know, I feel so starved rn)

[gojosatoruwifey]

ㅡNow that I have met him, My heart is at rest

✑ just a lil drabble before i start to write another reader fic again (◕ ω ◕✿) also the title comes from a poem in the Book of Songs which I enjoyed reading (◕∀◕✿)

✿ warning/s: self-ship , original character , suggestive , swearing , alcohol , let me know if i missed something!

✿ character/s: chung myung/cheong myeong , yao li jun

related to this, remember don't sleep with goverment officials just like chung myung did here (❦ ᴗ ❦ ✿)

Drinking buddies, my ass.

Cheong Myeong thought as he lay on top of Yao Li Jun. Robes thrown in disarray, the man underneath him looks like a nymph fairy at night with the soft moonlight illuminating his figure making him appear more ethereal than Cheong Myeong is used to and his heart stirred at the sight.

He leaned down and captured Yao Li Jun’s liquor-stained lips, their breaths tickling each other’s cheeks as their tongue met. Never did Yao Li Jun thought that he would be in a tangled mess in his private quarters with someone. Late at night. The plum blossom scent engulfed him whole as he whimpered at the hands roaming in his exposed fair thighs spread out with Cheong Myeong between his legs, kissing deeper and closer while the person above had his warm body protecting him from the cold air. His arms wrapped around that person’s broad shoulders, long strands tickling his skin.

A fiery blush formed on his cheeks and Yao Li Jun is too aware of everything what is happening. What was a usual drinking night escalated into a heated, languid kissing as they embraced like lovers escaping from watching eyes. He can feel his heart beating wildly in his chest, Yao Li Jun wonders if Cheong Myeong can feel it too, personal distance gone away instantly.

The tongue plunged deeper inside, playing with the other as they tasted the liquor Yao Li Jun personally chose. Tightened grip pull him closer to the other person’s body and he let out a small yelp, his collar bone seen and unprotected against Cheong Myeong's now diverted focused gaze. One of his hands moved to strip the obstructing layer, touch lightly brushing Yao Li Jun’s shoulders. Once he set his eyes on the skin, pale and inviting, as if it’s awaiting for his lips to descend and leave marks.

How scandalous.

If one of Yao Li Jun’s servants enters the room right this moment to see such a sinful scene. They might see the most exquisite being their eyes have ever laid into while he lures him into temptation, ushering him into his embrace so much that it will remind Yao Li Jun who he has been kissing like this within his long life, seeking remembrance and stealing his attention.

Who says he is intoxicated, mindlessly kissing the man he pushed down?

They both know it’s gonna take more than three bottles of alcohol to make him enter to drunken state. They are sober enough. Yao Li Jun is absolutely smitten as Cheong Myeong is.

Provocative arch of his beloved as he caresses, searing love bites left awake, a memento of his fondness…

Yao Li Jun will not have any excuse for what has transpired tonight.

Nor can he blame it on the alcohol in their system.

In the game of Xiangqi, the king is restricted.

Perfectly placed with nowhere to go.