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As my boyfriend, do you know what you get for playing hard to get?
—SANGMIN DINNEAW · ซังมินดินเหนียว · Episode 07
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bunnakit · 1 year ago
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last twilight ep 7 thoughts, feelings, etc
ALRIGHT i ran my errands, caught up on pit babe and playboyy to relax, and now i'm doing my speedwatch. i took some notes while watching the first time and they're a fucking MESS but hopefully they help me remember everything i want to comment on because without fail i always forget something.
you'll all be glad to know this week's meta bullshit from me is far, far less romantic and wistful than last weeks. you've all been spared by my adhd brain not being able to piece together a single poetic thought.
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i kind of knew from this moment the trajectory the episode would take. Day is clearly nervous but not defensive - this isn't out of the realm of something Mhok would do for him but with recent context it probably feels fairly intimate. i think this was a really good indicator of what we're in for.
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there's a collection of sunflowers in Day's room, tucked away in the corner, not unlike Mhok tucking away his feelings for Day's comfort. the poor things are shrouded in shadow, away from the light. the pain is unending and forever.
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Day's flashback to the kiss has me curious. his eyes are closed so he's not even thinking back to seeing what he can of Mhok up close. as he reminisces about this kiss is he simply remembering the sensation of Mhok's lips on his own? how his hands curled into Mhok's jacket? and i'm sure we've all seen the post but - was he thinking of the way Mhok tasted like cigarettes? this isn't to romanticize his disability, i'm just genuinely wondering what exactly he's drawing on here in this moment, because it's clearly something significant to him.
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Porjai just keeps getting prettier every episode and it's making me insane. i just think i should be allowed to take care of her.
"I'm jealous of Day's ability to make you smile."
this makes me think Mhok's smiles have been few and far between, and maybe Porjai has been looking to bring out that smile for a long time. does she ever worry that maybe someday Mhok could end up like Rung? does she worry about finding him too?
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oh i so very badly want the context for this, i want to know everything. but also, it's really not that surprising. not when we've seen the things Mhok has done for Day. Mhok lives his life in extremes; anger, kindness, protectiveness, his work, etc. everything Mhok does he puts his whole self into it and it's nice to see his love is no different, because why would it be?
i'm once again in awe of what P'Aof has done with Mhok and Porjai, though. they live together so easily and naturally. there's nothing strange or awkward about it, just two people surviving life together. it's such a breath of fresh air.
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Day just cannot catch a break when it comes to August. this has to hurt so fucking badly, the pity has to feel amplified by 1000. not only was August trying to force himself to like Day back because he's blind, but also because he was thinking of leaving. Day is a stronger man than me because i would be frothing at the mouth pissed.
but once again, Mhok doesn't let Day stew in his fish tank. he encourages him to go out and resolve his feelings, even if that means screaming at August and letting out all his hurt and frustration. he's seen what happens when Day lets his hurt fester and he won't let it happen again, not while he's around.
"He's a lot stronger than I thought. It's me who's so weak that I let him down."
as much as August pisses me off, i do think this is him realizing his pity was misplaced, and he failed Day in that way, so he gets some redemption points here. (still think he's a stinky bastard man tho)
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the immediate distance Mhok puts between himself and the group never fails to hurt my heart. i get it, he's there for a job, but their relationship has progressed past that - now even moreso, and i cant help but wonder if this is his attempt at keeping a distance, curbing his expectations, reminding himself that while his role is to be by Day's side it's only in a professional capacity.
i love that Gee acknowledges him with a little head nod, occasionally looks in Mhok's direction as if to include him, she's just - ugh - i love all the women in this show so fucking much. i just wish someone would invite Mhok over sometime, encourage him to join the conversation (like they did back at the party.)
sometimes Mhok really is the embodiment of a shadow - both of Day and of his former self (for good or bad.)
(he looks so fucking sexy leaning like that with his shirt tucked into his pants tho, whew.)
Gee also becomes one of my favorite people for asking Day to take the photo of all of them. she just gets it, she includes him, she doesn't act like he can't do things, she even insists he can, she's just !!! the women of all time in this show i swear!!! I LOVE WOMEN!!!!
also the "you don't drink coffee, girl spill the tea" from Gee is just so good. she knows a diversion tactic when she sees one.
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i want this expression framed, she's so cute, HELP.
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i wish i had the time and energy today to make gifs for this week but ugh. the journey Mhok's face went on here to end up at quiet resignation. because he did figure. someone like Day? with someone like him? because we know Mhok's opinion of himself isn't great, largely influenced by his incarceration and reintegration into society, i'm sure, along with his guilt. but there had been that little bud of hope, a little sunflower seed that had bloomed just a little too far, reached for the sun a little too much. it must feel like a weed in his chest.
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the way Day says 'here' so softly, with so much vulnerability made me feel like screaming. he doesn't know what his feelings are for Mhok yet (you can't tell me he doesn't feel anything) but he knows he doesn't want to lose Mhok and the sudden idea of it is terrifying. Mhok is the only person that really understands him, one of the only people he's comfortable around anymore, and he can't lose that. he doesn't want to go back to the dirty fish tank.
i also think this was an indicator to Mhok that maybe Day doesn't know how he feels, and maybe he can get away with flirting in tiny, subtle ways because from here on his secret flirting game is in full effect and it's so fucking cute. he's careful not to completely push past Day boundaries, but to test them in gentle ways.
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THE SHOES MY BELOVEDS. we all know what i feel about these shoes after last week and i'm so glad to see all of my stupid babbling confirmed here. i love that Mhok constantly mends things instead of throwing them away. the sentimentality of items means something to Mhok and we love him for that.
we also got a proper 'sweet dreams' this episode, finally!! thank you subbers!
so many shots of feet this ep tho and lemme tell you as someone that HATES feet, this was rough.
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oh you are so smitten. Day realizing Mhok is warm, warm in his own way, warm in such a gentle and understated way. UGH. you would've thought he knew after everything they've been through but sometimes people need a reminder and maybe something to drive them to pay closer attention. our boy is BESOTTED. kicking his feet and giggling. i think this is the happiest we've ever seen him.
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so here's where i'm probably going to wax poetic the most. Mhok is finally opening up to Day in such an incredible way. he brings Day to his home with no fear of pity or judgement. he brings him into this sanctuary created by him, his sister, and Porjai and he cooks for him and cares for him and in letting him in Day sees even more how impossibly warm Mhok is.
what's even greater is there isn't a single moment where Day is jealous or questions Porjai being there. Mhok has told him she's expecting and he's never weird about it, just kind and understanding and it's all so normalized, it's fucking beautiful. Day even takes the time to encourage Porjai, to share about his mom, and about the strength it takes to be a single mom. P'Aof i adore you.
Mhok has planted jasmine simply because he knows Day likes it, and maybe now he likes it too. and he brings Last Twilight home to practice reading (i'd always wondered how he managed to read without stumbling over himself lmao) and he's done it so much that now Porjai wants to name their child Mee, wants to create this connection to Day forever.
and once prompted, once Day knows enough to ask, Mhok opens up about Rung, talks about her more. Day comments on the warmth of the house, something started by Rung and cultivated by Mhok. it would be so easy for the house to feel cold and clinical, especially knowing what happened here, but Mhok has kept it a home - warm, inviting, comforting - all the things Mhok has been to Day.
the noises took me by fuckin' surprise tho, i genuinely looked around my house like who the fuck is making all that noise and then i was like OH THOSE ARE-- OKAY--
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and I know people are like haha P'Aof has a scent kink but like. idk. maybe it's just me but scents are something i'm drawn to. i remember the way someone smelled more than i remember their face. i recently took a shirt out of my closet and immediately started crying. it smelled like face powder and perfume. it smelled like my grandma. the leather jacket pushed to the side smells like cigarettes and horses, like my dad always did.
scent is such an ingrained memory, something that is so hard for our brains to let go of. every time i get a familiar smell it knocks me on my ass, and i'm so glad to see some of this represented in these shows.
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this absolutely warmed my heart. whatever is going on with Night and Day is clearly more on Day's side than anything else. Night clearly loves his brother and i'm just fucking DYING to know what is going on that is causing Day to drive a wedge between them. sure, Night hasn't been perfect, but there's love there and that counts for so much.
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and what exactly are you doing here??? this is a charity run for blindness - does he know someone that is blind other than Day? did meeting Day inspire him to participate? has he spent time talking to Mhok about Day and maybe the difficulties of his blindness? i am filled with questions but i love this character so much, he's just so kind.
Day's hesitation to cross the finish line was also something i found so interesting. it felt long, possibly too drawn out, but Day needed to think, needed time to understand that if he crosses that finish line, if he accepts Mhok's request to be his boyfriend, their lives will never go back to how they were. things between them will change forever, whether the relationship is a success or otherwise. it's an incredibly mature thing of Day to do, even if it felt a little lengthy for us, the audience.
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i strongly believe that in addition to Mhok Porjai is going to be a big driving force in Night and Day's reconciliation. i would love to see Porjai gain Night's side of the story, Mhok gain Day's side of the story, and the two of them working together to see how they can reunite these brothers.
also if i had a nickle for every time P'Aof paired Mark with a pregnant woman in his shows i'd have two nickles, which isn't a lot but it's interesting it has happened twice.
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while i, like everyone else, hope the mock proposal is a parallel we get to see later i want to focus more on this moment.
i forget who said it, it's long gone to the depths of my dash by now, but someone commented that disabilities do not stop for love, and fuck is that so true. i love Mhok's concern, his immediate reaction to soothe, and the way he seems to feel Day's fear as his own. and poor Day, he can't even enjoy this moment of bliss with Mhok because of course, of course something like this had to happen. it's so fucking real in the way Last Twilight has been this entire time.
the constant excellent representation of disabled living has been incredible to see, i've seen so much of myself in this show (even though my disability is so very different) and it's been like a warm blanket put over very single comment: you're too young to be disabled, you aren't THAT disabled, you're being dramatic, etc.
from the bottom of my heart, thank you P'Aof and team.
tag loves: @benkaaoi @callipigio @infinitelyprecious (as always tell me if you want to be added {for LT only or all meta} or removed!)
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respectthepetty · 1 year ago
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I need to stress something somewhere. And I know you will be able to help or even help be observe but, I have a haunting feeling that in the clips we have of Mork reading to Day, is in the future and….Mork isn’t actually there anymore . … many reasons with the scenes set up but the main things for me is the fish. There is only one in the rank now in that scene. And the book marks in the book. 1 fish bookmark, the other an avocado? And their legs are covered with a blanket. So no 2 slippers of fish is shown……am I creating narrative things that are not there or seeing things wrong? it just feels almost a melancholy scene set up in front of the tank…… and I’m scared!!
What are your thoughts pretty please?!
Anon, I'm choosing violence first, then I'll be kind.
On Spanish TikTok, or as I like to call it Tea Talk, someone stated they saw the book's ending, and it ended with Mork dying and donating his eyes to Day.
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The people of Tea Talk ripped that video to shreds. The comments section was not pleased with the mentiras (lies), and Indonesian TikTok even showed up in the fray with the actual book to prove the original poster was "Livin' La Vida Loca."
I don't know how this cookie will crumble, but let me remind you of two things:
#1 - This is GMMTV.
It gave us The Shipper in 2020 at the height of the pandemic, and I think it has been correcting that wrong since.
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And it gave us Only Friends in 2023.
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I wanted murder and mayhem. Instead it gave everyone happy endings except the slut because apparently he had too many "happy endings" and *morality* or some bullshit.
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If you are watching Playboyy, it's what Only Friends could have been if Disney BL hadn't produced it.
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I might sound salty (because I am), but I'm really just trying to emphasize that GMMTV wouldn't. Period. Full stop. GMMTV wouldn't give us a sad ending to a branded pair. It will kill a mom quick, but sad times for a branded pair? ¡Nunca! For example, how did we all know Palm x Nueng were gonna be safe and sound in Never Let Me Go? Our Skyy 2. Can't have Our Skyy 3 if it kills a ship now can it?
#2 - This is Aof
The director, producer, and screenwriter extraordinaire shot Pat (Ohm) on Christmas Eve.
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He killed Papang!
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Hell, he killed Singto before the series even started!
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Mork (NOT GAWIN, NO!) got beat up and was hospitalized!
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And yet, we got a happy ending each time.
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The man wants to make use cry, but he has never ended with queer trauma to do so.
Which is why there are still two fish in that tank.
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And I think the avocado is a shout out to Jimmy's love of them (because who doesn't love avocados, am I right?).
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So as much as I do not think the reading scenes we keep getting are set in the present,
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I don't think they are setting us up for a sad future, especially because Korea already did this trick.
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If you watched To My Star 2: Our Untold Stories last year, you know that shit hurt, every, single, episode,
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and because it hurt, we were too blinded by the pain to notice the happiness sprinkled throughout.
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The happiness we were seeing wasn't flashbacks of their past relationship or even snippets of their current one.
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THEY WERE GLIMPSES OF THEIR HAPPY FUTURE!
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Korea gave us The Eighth Sense and Strongberry's Choco Milk Shake, both which had the perfect premises to fuck us over, and yet my only complaint was NO POLY!
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If Korea can delivery happy endings, Disney BL can too (but not the kind it punished Boston for. Never those kind). It isn't Taiwan, and it certainly isn't Japan who is ALWAYS itching to give maximum pain. This is "soft power" Thailand, GMMTV, Aof, and a branded pair. If GMMTV brought out Gawin to get Krist and Joss back to kiss a homie, I greatly doubt it would tank the JimmySea ship for a sad ending (did you get the pun?). If there is one thing I can count on GMMTV for, it's to secure the bag. Sell merch. Sell novels. Sell a special box edition of the series. Sell the ship. That won't happen if this is sad.
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Also, color-coded boys in love get happy endings.
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It's science.
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akria23 · 1 year ago
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Suspect / Character Chart Update:
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Nobody:
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So this week’s episode moved us off the path of Nuth as he claimed that Nant committed suicide - including some possible flashbacks of the body. This moves my Nobody theory - specifically Nobody: Theory A into sus rank 1.
Do I believe that Nant committed suicide tho? No I’m not convinced yet. I do think he’d have a lot of reasons for suicide - which I pointed out the first time I posted - but there’s so many questions left with that option. Where’s the body? Did nuth hide it? Why? What about a suicide note - not everyone leaves one but it seems strange of Nant in particular to not want to get out to his brother what he’d never been able to say while living.
I do think this does move up other aspects of the Nobody theory tho - they confirmed debt collectors so maybe Nant faked his death & went into hiding, or they harmed him. We still have the possibility of psychological break & Nont and Nant being the same person who just suffered a traumatic experience or drug usage that caused a break in his psyche - I still don’t want this the most but I can see it being this cause it is the safer route to end us off with.
Nuth:
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Nuth has moved down in the ranks to the number 2 spot. Hes not lower because while he claims that Nant ruined his life and committed suicide all of his flashbacks of Nant so far hasn’t shown Nant be violent or harmful towards him. He’s pictured supportive, sexualized, and a hurt Nant. That’s not to say Nant couldn’t have harmed him or even made his life worse - it’s just a possibility that Nuth isn’t a reliable source even his flashbacks. We’ve seen him have hallucinations so it’s difficult to say what he recalls or sees as 100 proof of things happening or have happened.
Also…did they ever tell us what the bloody hand print was from… If Nant was selling drugs to pay his debt is it the same ppl Nuth is selling for? Theres also these lines or cages placed over Nuth sometimes and I’m not sure if it’s metaphor for criminality or a metaphor for how trapped he feels. There’s still one of two threads they can pull and circle back around to it being Nuth so he stays on the list.
Prom:
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It’s still all vibes no evidence. He doesn’t slip, he doesn’t miss. He’s almost the perfect specimen partner wise in the sense that he has an ability to read Nont in a way no other does. He’s not overbearing, or controlling. He doesn’t try to change Nont’s mind after boundaries are set. Anything Nont says he needs or wants, Prom goes along with - an active supporter (plotting, research, giving him the weapon). But that’s the thing, Nont is more honest with him than he is with any other characters - and he has to see the frayed edges but he doesn’t pull Nont back at all. He enables…he’s supporting his descent.
The question I’m lost on is why. Maybe it’s empathy, relatability- I too am sadistic in my way, I too have rage, I wanna kill someone - and because he’s so good at repressing he admires & desires Nont who doesn’t repress who just acts and reacts. And this is what makes them revenge lovers.
But there’s still always that niggle at my brain that reminds me that Prom inserted himself and then had had influence over the case ever since. The show is always highlighting something off when Prom is in the mix - the music change, the aesthetic of the room, the way they position his def in scenes at the Playboyy with Aob & Puen (which I’m sure is to show us how he’s a source that benefits from the competing nature). He still feels like an invisible hand, still feels like he’s playing chess and seeing moves ahead of his lover. There’s so much mystery surrounding him still that’s it’s difficult to move him off the suspect board.
Porsche:
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I still can’t tie Porsche into his death so he stays at number 4 ranking but I still wonder if his sugar daddy had anything to do with Nant that would’ve set them into a competitive nature for his resources and therefore enemies…that’s my mind working theories from what the story has given us thus far tho.
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scarefox · 1 year ago
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Ok but the thing where Soong hallucinates Nant on the couch instead of First
I feel like that has to do with guilt. Did he beg him for help but he didn't do anything? And now that he's missing he feels guilty. OR did he help with whatever happened to Nant?
I doubt he is directly responsible but either indirectly or he at least saw something. Which may be the reason why they all quit working at Playboyy. They said something happened they didn't agree with.
Did Nant get punished for something? Either as customer or (new) employee.
BUT what triggered that flashback?
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He's clearly overworked and exhausted here. But having to play different roles all the time can mess with your head.
Or is it 'just' him seeing First crying or rather the fact the he made him cry (it didn't bother him in their BDSM session)
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he's struggling with himself here, not knowing how to react. If he should apologize and comfort him, but then he sees Nant and just silently freaks out and leaves
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scrollll · 10 months ago
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Fic recs!
(i try to include the tumblr if i find it, if this bothers the person in question I will remove it, dw)
Not Nant by doyouooome
„The guy in front of Prom wasn’t Nant. He should call the bluff, but then he put his hand on Prom’s dick. “What if I want more?”
Prom knows right away that Nont isn't Nant, and the attempt at deception makes him kind of angry. It also makes him kind of curious to see how far this guy who looks just like Nant is willing to go.“
Here we have a beautiful inside perspective of Nont and Prom's first meeting in episode 2 on the menu!
Spiced up with spanking, smutty flashbacks and hot scenes at the very beginning of one of our kinky couples.
Personal opinion:
One of the first fics I read on ao3 about Playboyy (oh, how time flies...)
I love Prom's character here! He hits that fine line from confusion, to lust, to curiosity, to taking on the challenge Nont sets him with his little display.
Hot until the very end! I love the details about Nant that were sprinkled in here, brilliant, especially looking at it now in hindsight. So many aspects fit on Nant, even though at the time the character had barely appeared on the show!
@doyou000me, you had a keen eye with this, thank you for writing!
So, guys, stop by, leave kudos or comments, they will appreciate it!
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whatever-letmebe · 1 year ago
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Here's what is revealed about Nant in episode 7 of Playboyy
Playboyy came back from its break and hit us with so much plot development!
Timestamps: 3:19 - 4:10; 8:48 - 10:10 (Captain & Keen); 13:32 - 13:55 (Nuth); 19:59 - 20:28 (Nuth's flashback); 23:37 - 27:15 (Prom & Nont); 39:53 - 40:17; 47:09 -
Captain asks Keen about the masked party again. Keen says that it took place in a hotel room, that Nuth was the host (we already knew that) and that Nuth took video clips but didn't post them anywhere. He describes Nuth as polite, well-mannered and mature (older). According to Keen, everybody at the party was into S&M and it wasn't really his thing.
Nuth's wholesome couple time with Phop is interrupted by text messages from Keen reading: "Did you cause any trouble? Someone asked about you. About the masked party two months ago. Probably about his friend Nant."
After Phop falls down and gets hurt, Nuth has a flashback of Nant with bruises on his face
Prom tells Nont that he doesn't know anything about Nuth and that they should let the police handle it instead of getting involved themselves. But Nont wants revenge and is ready to kill for Nant. Prom hears that and decides it's a good idea to hand Nont a gun.
Earlier in the episode, Zouey & Teena ran into Nuth & Phop (or rather, Phop literally ran into them). Zouey took a picture of them and tells his friends about the encounter. So now Nont knows that Phop is Nuth's boyfriend.
Armed with that knowledge as well as the gun Prom gave him, Nont arrives in front of the apartment complex where Nuth lives, ready to confront him about Nant. He is alone even though the boys offered to go with him. He sees Phop walking towards the building, follows him and forces himself into Nuth's apartment by threatening Phop with the gun. Once inside, he ties up Phop and Nuth and demands answers from Nuth. Nuth says that Nant ruined his life. "I have nothing left. No money, no job. My life is ruined because of you. Just because I couldn't date you. You beat me up. You manipulated me. And I had to see a therapist." He also thinks that Nant committed suicide. "You called me saying you were going to kill yourself to escape the creditors." Nont threatens to shoot Phop if Nuth doesn't tell him everything. The episode ends with the sound of a gun shot and Nuth screaming Phop's name.
Sooo, that's it. Can we believe Nuth? Did somebody get shot? Why the fuck did Prom think it was okay to hand Nont a gun??? And what is the connection between Nuth and Keen?
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chaos0pikachu · 1 year ago
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BL Ask Game: 5, 11, & 13 <3
5. favorite female character
Hands down Yuna from Semantic Error and not just b/c I want her to be my wifey/hubby though that plays a huge part in it also her fits like god the costuming on that show was so good but she had such game, such rizz, I'm near swooning all over again I want her to be my bestie and boyfriend all at once she never let JJ breath for a fucking second kept her foot on that man's throat and said be a fucking adult or don't but pay for my beer true bestie behavior love her to pieces
11. most anticipated upcoming bl
I have 3 I'm looking forward to: Playboyys (TOMORROW PUTAS) Pit Babe (FRIDAY PUTAS) and The Sign (SOMETIME THIS MONTH PUTAS) out of all three I can't really decide which one I'm looking forward to "the most" they all have different aspects that I'm super into (sex industry! gay fast & furious! paranormal action!)
13. bl you think is overrated
HAHAHAHA lemme smack that bees nest
I straight up think Until We Meet Again is hella overrated, there's a big named fan who recs this show all the time and I wish I saw in it what they did but I don't, it was boring, slow, poorly filmed, poorly acted at times - Fluke was great, Boun has solid on screen charisma, I freaking loved Cooheart he stole the show for me, Prem was decent, Ohm was horrible, Kao was passable - I didn't vibe with Pharm and Dean at all b/c Ohm's acting was so wooden.
The pacing though was what really killed the show for me and just how poorly it was filmed like there's nothing visually interesting to look at, it's all very static images and the show could barely indicate what scenes were flashbacks and what wasn't. But it was on every rec list imaginable when I started watching BL two/three years ago. How much I didn't vibe with the show is one of the reasons I don't trust big named blogs recommendations anymore b/c you can't talk about cinematography and brilliant high value production and UWMA in the same breath I'm so sorry
I get why people like that show it's not without merit - I fucking LOVED Korn and In best part of the show for me I'm sad Kao and Cooheart probably won't do another show together since I didn't like Lovely Writer either - but I find it wildly overrated
Another for fun, 1000 Stars, I like Mix and Earth but my god what a fucking slog that show was. All the characters save for Phupha and Tian are cardboard cutouts they have no internal histories, or existence outside of "comedic relief" "villager" or "help Tian and Phupha get together" it made the show so boring and really hurt - imo - Tian's connection to the village. The setting was pretty but a pretty setting was not enough to make up for the poor filming and editing, the show could've easily been trimmed down into a 2hr movie and worked way better.
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❤️🧡💛bl ask game💚💙💜
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autisticbokutoenthusiast · 9 months ago
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playboyy rewatch ep 5
- ok headlines talking about being forced into sex work, actor committing suicide because of debt, and an older brother borrowing money from a friend to pay off his younger brothers debt and then killing himself…. it’s getting a bit closer to nant but also to phop….
- nont draped so sadly over the tv…. oh my baby boy
- ok hold on the final nont/nant convo:
1. nont accuses nant of not answering his texts and asks if he’s dating someone (gurl ok)
2. nant says he was busy taking their mom to the hospital because she tried to commit suicide again
3. nont says if he’s tired nant can live with him for a while
- this convo is interesting cause it implies a close bond but nont and nant didn’t really know eachother….. or at least weren’t present for eachother like none of nants friends knew he had a twin and nont only knows things about nant that he can gather from his social media profiles….
- nont and nant were geminis oh wait this means nont last heard from nant in june… wait nant went missing around then too…
- scared of water by kikoru enthusiasts stand up?!!
- porsche crying over nant really being missing, does he know jason’s interest in him- probably not actually
- “look what you guys did to him” zouey let he who had nothing to do with nants disappearance cast the first stone
- obsessed with the detail the baddies call eachother pussy in the flashbacks but not in real time..... zouey unreliable narrator is catching blame for this
- the way we as the audience are peaking through curtains to see nant and nuths interaction
- oh this is where we find out prom is porsches brother why did i think we found out at the party?!?!?
- ok so porsche tells nant to stop sleeping with prom and then tells first to help talk to nant
- SAY THE LINE FIRST!!!!
ep 5 'bought with cash'
- i love this song
- zoueyteena are everything like i love them so bad
- why is puens arm around captain 🤨
- the way zouey leaves captain hanging…. fucking brutal
- captain vs accepting that actions have consequences
- captain and puen beloathed besties agenda going strong
- jump realizing porsche is jason’s son....
- zouey supporting first in all his wild endeavors i love them
- first is wearing pearls oh and they say chanel
- AOBPUEN ENTHUSIASTS LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
- i forgot prom and first have this whole convo
- aobpuen…. also aob being like you’re only good looking and intriguing, loser
- nont arson and kidnap era begins
- the way nant holds onto teena is making me lose my brains
- do nawt watch this high that camera angle of nont almost made me piss myself
- nuthphop 🥺🥺
- the piggyback ride im going to. a punch my computer
- here comes tutor and his eyelashes
- oh jump my baby boy
- kitty kat aob !!!!
- aobpuen really is dynamic of all time… also puen is my man im sorry but that’s my baby he’s done nothing wrong ever is kill for him
- i love the way this nuthphop scene is shot like the shaky camera the lighting the bizarre remix random shots of cowboys like real cinema!
- phop wears chains AND pearls
- so if we are going with the letter necklaces representing being “owned” by jason nuth offering to get phop one….
- it’s so fascinating watching prom on rewatch “get the suspects together and figure out what happened*sus smile*”
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hurlumerlu · 1 year ago
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Ep 2 of playboyy was imo a mess that made me feel less like Nont was investigating and more like someone was reading him the script so that he knew where he needed to go next. (speaking of which, who was the guy who drove him to the garage ? it's probably nothing but the fact that we never saw his face is one if the few things in the episode that had me engaging with what was on screen - that and the "i woof you" jacket, the wardrobe department keeps doing a great job)
However ep 3 reeled me back in, with my only big complaint being that the show should have spent just a little more time on Nont's breakdown, just let it soak in a little bit more because it is truly gutting and i feel like we moved on slightly too fast, whereas other scenes could have been shorter.
I'm focusing on Nont because that's the story i came here for, but i really liked Teena and First parallely fucking up by relying too much on safewords, it was great. I also remain very invested in scholarship-dude. i could argue that his quiet persona combined with his stated willingness to do whatever he needs to do to get what he wants probably mark him as a wild card, or that i loved his reactions to Captain's very questionables antic, but tbh sometimes i just take an immediate shine to characters.
Few last thoughts - i'm just rambling here anyway, and i'll check later - but i think the dog-mask video was in ep 1 cold open, in between cuts of First jacking off. So are we meant to think First saw that vid ? Also what was up with Soong weird flashback to Nant ? Is this related to the playboyys quitting, and if so why do they think it was Prom's faut, given that he really doesn't seem to know what happened to Nant ? Did Most Popular Playboyy (the one with the shoulder tattoo) manipulate them for some reason ? He seemed far too happy with himself.
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scrollll · 1 year ago
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I am asking myself this so often, like how did they managed to pull this off??
Where others fight with dead-fish-lips-kisses, they pull out the heavy guns. The actors of the Playboyy prostitutes alone with their changing customers. They have to keep their shit together, need to make is seem appealing and need to deliver the story and plot!
Like, for example Dech, the actor of Nont/Nant.
He acts two different characters, shot love scenes with multiple partners, has emotional challenging scenes where he needs to be fierce AND then again scenes where he is the victim in other peoples flashbacks, like excuse me SIR????
Are you okay????
It occurs to me that the guys in Playboyy really had their work cut out for them.
Normally couples workshop to get the chemistry right but these guys' characters are practically having a huge incestuous friend group and sleeping with everyone.
So they had to work extra hard to get the chemistry going with multiple partners.
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bunnakit · 1 year ago
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do you want to get chicken noodles?
i've had several people wonder why i'm obsessed with playboyy's aob and why i'm constantly saddened by the indifference towards him on the dash so i figured i'd grab hold of my 'too much' habits again and do a breakdown of all the reasons i love aob.
as always, i'm just a little guy on the internet. i could be way off base, i could be seeing things that aren't there, i could be reading too much into things, could be forgetting points of the plot or times when people have mentioned aob in a bad light, whatever. i just ask that you be nice to me because i'm only this big 🤏🏻 (and i also took the time to make gifs of almost every single aob moment across 8 episodes and i've been working on this for 5 hours - some gifs are crunchy because i had to lower the quality to capture everything i want to address)
to preface, so much of aob isn't in what he says - you actually gain so much more to learn from aob about what he doesn't say and observing his body language and facial expressions closely. aob tells his entire story with his body, because that's how he's grown used to communicating.
episode 1 🌸
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we see here aob is genuinely baffled by the behavior of teena and soong. he's used to the environment of playboyy where clients are just paychecks and there's game of cat and mouse and as a result no need for any sort of emotions or emotional manipulation. he's simply providing a service and doing a job. he doesn't have to lure and romance, his clients come to him. the idea of getting emotions involved is completely foreign to him.
episode 2 🌸
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we're brought to a flashback almost immediately in episode 2 that raises a lot of questions but also shows us quite a bit. as aob walks up the stairs he moves as if he owns the place, with the utmost confidence. as he ascends we see security treat him with respect and offer wai's in passing - almost as if he is someone in charge here. this shows us what a big deal aob is among the club, how respected he is even as far as the security is concerned. i think it's a very interesting detail that helps back up aob's arrogance and confidence, because why would he be anything else?
the following conversation with the other workers is a bit confusing to me and as far as i recall we don't have all the answers to the questions it raises just yet. we do learn aob is the one that taught jump, teena, and soong during their time at playboyy. he asks them what they're going to do for a living if they're leaving and i think this conveys the idea that aob isn't as heartless as he appears. he worries for them and wonders how they'll take care of themselves if they leave.
teena makes a comment about the boss going too far but i'm not sure if we know what he means by that yet? i had actually completely forgotten about this encounter until i went back to grab screens. i want to comment on this part more but it's not really the point, i'm just really curious what the fuck they're talking about here as they seem to insinuate they've been forced to work here and even aob is surprised by that. this leads me to believe that aob might be a bigger part of the plot later on, perhaps in uncovering whatever was meant by these comments.
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i think this is the moment aob really lost favor with so much of the fandom and i do understand why, however, there's a lot that happens here that's very interesting to observe.
"Don't say 'true love' and 'soulmate.'"
i have to wonder why these were the first words aob brings up as soong laments his situation. no one said those words, aob, but you sure did.
teena then talks to soong about what he's heard and tells him he should be responsible for first's feelings in all of this to which aob makes the above expression. aob hates the discussion of feelings, believes emotions need to be removed from the equation entirely, and is baffled by the way his friends are acting about people that should be nothing more than clients and believes any form of relationship impossible.
"Try being in love." "What, stupid love?"
something about this makes me believe that aob doesn't know what love is, not real love. he dismisses it as stupid and scoffs while the others almost roll their eyes at him. it's easy for aob to give the advice he does when he doesn't have love burning a hole in his chest the way they do, he's never felt it before, doesn't know how all consuming it is.
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and then as first confronts soong the camera pans from teena to aob and i find his expression very interesting. that doesn't look like a man removed of emotions. to me, that looks like a man that has just had his world tilted on it's axis and is now questioning everything he's ever told himself. he sees first's tears and the way soong stands still and listens as first falls apart. i think that moment truly startled him and drove home that the emotions between the boys and their 'clients' are very real.
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alright, episode 5 is a lot so i'm sorry for the absolute wall of gifs and texts coming for this single episode.
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"Time to work, Puen."
aob meets puen on the stage and immediately his face falls as it's not him picked first but puen. later, aob walks into the back where puen is smoking and immediately takes in the sight of him.
"Are you Puen?" "I am." "You're quite hot."
"Come find me later. I want to know why you're so popular."
aob wants to know who has dethroned him and why his clients are so enamored with puen. what does puen, someone completely new to the business, have to offer that he doesn't? this is also where aob begins to look at puen and from here on he will never look away.
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aob speaks so very much with his eyes. you can see his gaze drop and take in all of puen here during their 'evaluation' as he asks permission before going further with him. it's obviously quite professional but i think it also shows us that aob isn't as cold as he tells people he is; or perhaps that's just where puen is concerned.
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this is really where i realized that much of understanding aob is reading into what he isn't saying or what his words are hiding.
"I knew it, you aren't that great."
but he is, because aob can't look away from him.
"...You attract clients that want to try new things. Once they are bored of you they'll dump you."
you're attracted to me and want to try something with me, but once you're bored you'll leave me.
"Why don't you teach me? I want to be like you."
show me what you want from me. i want you to like me.
"I'm sorry. I can't be a teacher. I'm a prostitute. Oh. Don't be like me." Because you can never be. Loser."
i'm sorry. i can't like you. i'm a prostitute. and please don't like me because i can never like you back. don't look to me anymore.
but puen accepts that challenge.
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(i forgot to watermark this one lmao, i don't care enough to go fix it)
i'm still not entirely sure what to make of this moment with prom. why does he squeeze aob's shoulder as if to offer him some kind of reassurance? why does aob shake his head just the slightest bit and suddenly look like he's going to face a firing squad? does prom know it's already too late for aob, that he's in too deep? is he trying to prepare aob for the sudden fire in puen's veins? i'm really struggling to figure it out, really. i think it could mean quite a few things or nothing at all.
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"Why are you criticizing me? People might think you're jealous of me."
puen has so very clearly learned what makes aob tick. he's learned that aob's pride is also his biggest weakness and he picks at that weak point to evoke a response from him - and it works. suddenly aob is all bluster and anger, but interestingly puen doesn't back down, doesn't even flinch. instead, he has a confident smile and meets aob's eyes with a challenge burning in his own.
aob doesn't know what to do with that. you can see it in the shift of his face. this expression is very similar to the one he makes when first confronts soong - he's on the wrong foot, confused and adrift because suddenly puen is no longer the innocent doe-eyed novice but someone who is pushing back and challenging him. no one has ever challenged him before.
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they meet again later in the bathroom where aob is doing some sort of display of dominance perched on a urinal. listen, that's my blorbo, but even i can't defend that. baby get down from there, you're making even more of a fool of yourself.
"Do you want to eat chicken noodles with me?"
aob rejects the invitation and puen laments that he seemed fine earlier when they were in the room together.
"What happens in the room stays in the room, Puen. You can't have feelings for the clients. They'll be strangers when they leave."
what i do in the room with you has to stay there. i can't have feelings for you. you'll become a stranger to me when you leave.
"Why do you have to act so cold and emotionless to everyone?"
and aob doesn't answer. he doesn't even get angry. there's just a quiet look of resignation on his face and he bites his lip, almost like he's nervous, almost like puen is looking at him too closely and starting to see right through him.
"Can you have feelings for your friends or brothers?"
or for me.
"You aren't my friend or my brother. You're a competitor."
because you have to be. because i can't handle any alternative. i can't love you.
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they're in the bathroom again but this time it's puen waiting for aob asking why he's been avoiding him.
"Why can't you have sex like a couple? You taught me how to feel. So practice what you preach."
why can't we have sex like a couple? you taught me to remove the feelings from it so why can't you do that?
and i think it's very interesting that for a moment aob drops his gaze and looks away. he's been caught and called out and looks away almost in submission before pulling up his guard again.
"I don't have any feelings for a kid like you. I just can't do it. You're not sexy enough."
he attacks puen's looks but this is a direct contradiction to when they first met and the first thing he said was "You're quite hot." once again aob says the opposite of what he means.
i have feelings for you, this is why i can't have sex with you like a couple. i like you far too much.
"Fine. I'll be better than you someday."
fine. i'll make you love me.
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and aob can't take it any longer. he goes just outside the door and breaks down because it's all so much; his feelings for puen, puen's refusal to back down, the turmoil he finds himself in having everything he's ever known turned upside down. he was never supposed to have feelings, least of all for someone as stubborn and determined as puen who breaks down his walls and challenges him at every turn. his will is breaking down every bit as much as he is in this moment.
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this was one of the first scenes to really make me emotional in this show. throughout this entire scene aob cannot look away from puen. all of his attention is on puen to the point where he neglects the client and even pushes him away. he touches only puen, kisses only puen. he seems almost tortured by the moment, to be so close but so far from the object of his desire.
and puen looks at him with the challenge in his eyes again, almost mocking: look at me, i've surpassed you. you can't take your eyes off me. i've won.
and aob continues to watch him, his eyes almost a caress, gaze almost reverent as if he's witnessing something holy. my man is absolutely lost in the sauce.
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"You have a crush on a loser like me, huh? So you couldn't help yourself."
"This is how you pay me back?" why are you doing this to me? "Do it to me, not in front of the client. What's wrong with you?" don't challenge me in front of a client. don't push me.
but puen knows he's won, he knows he's hit the nail on the head and aob, as he always does, is growing defensive. because he's scared.
"But I'm glad that I'm important to you. Like I said, I will be better than you someday. But that day came so quickly. You lost."
i'm glad you've realized i'm important to you. like i said, i would make you love me. that day came so quickly. i've won.
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i didn't get gifs of the scene but prom asks aob if he's jealous of puen's popularity. that's all he asks. but what's interesting is aob replies:
"Jealous? I don't have feelings for him."
aob... i don't think that's what prom was asking. prom asked if you were jealous of his popularity among the clients, if you were jealous that he'd taken your throne.
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and puen appears to challenge aob again, blows him a kiss almost as a reminder of their previous encounter. but aob doesn't get angry, doesn't rise to the bait. if anything he looks sad, maybe contemplative, and perhaps like he's coming to terms with something.
You only appreciate the value of something when you are about to lose it. It's just so fucking awful.
Especially when you know in your heart that you are powerless.
Because he isn't your boyfriend.
The more you want to know the more painful it gets.
throughout this entire scene aob looks so sorrowful, like he knows he has to do something soon or he will lose his chance with puen. he has to try because this powerless feeling is growing to be too much.
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aob is waiting for puen at the bottom of the stairs and if you look he's bouncing his leg in a nervous tick. when puen rounds the corning his face is immediately in some semblance of a smile which is something we really haven't seen from aob. it gives the impression that he worked himself up to this moment despite how nervous he is. (his shirt is also very wrinkled, were you in a rush?)
"How are you going to haze me today?"
and this i think drives home that puen is tiring of their game. that aob is so very close to losing puen because puen is starting to believe aob's words, believe that aob doesn't like him and only wants to harass him.
so aob takes the leap.
(and i find the handle with care on the wall particularly interesting, as both of them need to be handled with care. aob, with his unfamiliar and warring feelings, and puen with his earnest and hopeful heart.)
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and as aob bridges that gap puen looks taken aback and confused because what the fuck, aob isn't soft, doesn't do things like this.
"Do you want to get chicken noodles?"
aob asks, a throwback to the day puen had asked him on a date. an acknowledgement and an apology.
i'm sorry i wasn't ready then, but i'm ready now. will you still have me?
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and that's why today's episode made me cry and why i love aob so, so very much. his journey learning his feelings and learning what love feels like and what love can be isn't pretty, he fights it tooth and nail the entire way, but the smile on both their faces as he jumps on puen's back gives me so much hope that they can be good for each other and support each other.
there are still so many episodes left and maybe i'll be wearing clown make up by the end of this, maybe my hopelessly disgustingly romantic heart has misled me, maybe i've read the facial expressions and body language all wrong, but regardless of all of that aob and puen are so special to me.
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respectthepetty · 1 year ago
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i will literally have to set the entire world on fire if it turns out soong did it. at the very least i will have. to lay facedown and sob for eternity like that one gif
Congrats, Anon, you've unlocked a
Playboyy Wild Ass Theory
This is truly the wildest ass theory I have ever had.
TLWR: The twins' dad is the sugar daddy and the housekeeper is going to be blamed.
I 100% KNOW Soong didn't do it.
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My boy is innocent!
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I knew that tape would come back to haunt Soong, and I liked that it came in the episode about people's sex tapes being leaked, even if the sex was consensual because the dad trying to force Soong into leaving his son by using that tape against him was disgusting.
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The dad had that to hang over Soong's head, which Soong shrugged off, but whatever else the dad had on Soong has him pressed, and like I've mentioned before, I think Soong was the dog in the film.
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I think the harness is in the perfect spot to cover up his tattoo.
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I KNOW Soong did not kill anybody, but he also had a flashback to homeboy crying on his couch when First was crying.
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I think this mysterious sugar daddy gave Soong good $$$ to film more sexually aggressive films,
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but something happened that made the deal go south which is why the guys left the Playboyy Club since the transaction *should* be simple: sex = money . . .
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Which is why I think Nuth is still lying since he is the only filmmaker on the roster who could've shot those films.
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As @scarefox and @slonekaru mention in their post, all roads lead to this sugar daddy because we have been told he is very possessive and violent,
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Which is why I think Soong is running scared instead of just simply breaking up with First.
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And even though Prom had a dream about a body being found in a forest, which would later become a reality, this might be why Prom was in the hotel video since we know his life is being funded by this sugar daddy as well, so he might have tasked Prom with cleaning up a mess.
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We've gone nine episodes hearing whispers of this sugar daddy, but I think we've heard more than whispers.
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But how could Porsche not know his sugar daddy is his roommate's dad? How could Prom not know who his sex buddy's dad is? Because they DO know who he is!
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Each episode begins with news highlighting sexual violence and a good portion of the cases have focused on people in power abusing their authority to either shame sex workers or sexually harm others as well as government officials being blackmailed for having sex in public restrooms or via webcam, parents forcing their children into sex work, and housekeepers being framed for murder.
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All are interesting cases, but that last one is the most intriguing.
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So like I wrote at the beginning, I think the twins' dad is the sugar daddy and this mysterious housekeeper is going to take the blame because if the dad is pissed about his sugar babies looking at other men, how livid would he be if he found out his own son was involved in sex work?
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It seems wild, which is why it is my wildest ass theory yet, but what I do know, without a doubt, is my boy Soong is innocent. I know it doesn't look good for him right now.
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But I would bet mine and his life on it.
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Let's hope the narrative doesn't demand payment.
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autisticbokutoenthusiast · 11 months ago
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SPILLLLLL
(@jeffsatyr)
i already forgot exactly the promt but you are getting my playboyy thought wip.
been rotating a zoueyfirst fic about their time as roomies because i need more of them cuddled on zoueys bed sharing their fears/secrets with eachother. i think in this time zouey tells first about what jason did to him and id love this to be a multi day long process of a convo because 1. zouey seems to have a lot of trouble processing what it means to him/admitting it in general and 2. in the flashback at the very end we see the baddie bunch being a lot crueler in the way they taunt zouey and nant about sex and while this could just be a zouey memory moment, i think it would be interesting for first to think about his own attitutudes and behaviour and also the way they effect how they interact with zouey. i also livvvve for the physical bond these friends have it lives in my head rent free.
side thing to explore is first getting protective but borderline possessive over zouey and that also becomes its own thing to be dealt with- this has bee rotated less tho so i dont have a ton more to say on it besides captain may be getting decked.
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autisticbokutoenthusiast · 1 year ago
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tracking nuthphop through music ep 7
ep 4 and 5, ep 6, 8 and 9
nuthphop out and about being cute and in love
- (kobicha - arden forest 12:08) phop is pretending to fish in an empty pool and nuth is recording him. they are being cute together. the song is sentimental, they are teasing and having a good time, the song is played on a clean piano while the audio from the characters is ocasionally grainy- since we're hearing the way it sounds through the recorder. it fades out when phop leaves the frame [if yall remember this song was in ep 5 and also played during the first nuthphop scene of the ep when nuth was fondly recording phop]
- (a matter of trust - gavin luke 13:48) this eary piano melody plays when nuth receives texts from keen about someone looking into the masked party. it fades out when the camera changes to fous on zouey and teena [this artist has appeared several times in the nuthphop scenes]
- (19:37) couldn't pick up a full song from this but a few measures of vocal samples play when nuth watches phop suck on a hot dog (not explaining this further playboyy viewers already know what im trying to say), theres a pause and then the vocal samples continue but as chords as they joke around- they morph into staticky metallic pulses as nuth looks at phop and sees a bloodied nuth instead.
- (reasons to love - miles avida 20:20) another piano melody, simple and a bit sad, plays as phop brings nuth back to reality [also if you look up this song theres orchestrations that arent included in the version used in the show, as in they specifcally used a very simple and echoy version]
nuthphop back at nuths apartment
- (couldn’t find song 41:00) phop says “you always seems scared im going to die in front of you, did your last boyfriend die in front of you” and nuth goes into flashback mode while a low ominous synth plays. when nuth starts gripping phops shirt there is an accented string and percussion hit, these hits continue and happen in more frequency as we get snippets of flashbacks. the sounds eventually calm down when phop grabs nuths hand. i wouldn’t be surprised if this was something mixed in house
- ( tormenta del dolor - association of american dps 42:04) this song starts when nuth says “i can’t live without you”. this is another sad piano ballad.
[side note kobi- arden forest plays in the zoueyteena scene directly after]
nuthphop getting interrogated by nont
- (fulmar - of water 48:56) this upbeat guitar loop plays as a smiling nuth opens the door for phop, it cuts out with a shrill high pitched sound as nuth sees phop is being held at gunpoint
- (couldn't find song 49:20) this fast paced percussion and bass beat plays as tensions rise between nuth and nont. i wouldn’t be surprised if this was mixed in house too
- (inverted- hampus naeselius 50:22) this other percussion based high stakes track begins when nuth reveals he believes nant committed suicide [if yall remember this played in ep 4 when nuth was blocked by phop and ep 6 when nont and nuth were video calling, getting the sense this represents something important- my guess would be a song that plays when nuth feels defensive or is maybe being hurt by other characters]
- (couldn’t find song 51:06) this fuzzy synth and electric guitar based track starts when nont points the gun at phop
another episode down, im starting to get the feel that once nuthphop are in an established relationship their sound is sad piano ballads that contrast with the songs that connect them to other characters.... narrative points
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chaos0pikachu · 1 year ago
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I very much like the The Sign and all ways it's pushing forward filming in BL (feel the same way about playboyy but in a totally different way) there's just one quibble I have with the show and it's the secondary chars.
Like, ngl was kinda disappointed with Tharn's past life sister (whose name I can not remember) I thought that could've been seeded way better. Having her be more active in the plot instead of showing up a bit out of nowhere. It would've been cool actually to get some Green Snake/White Snake style moments with the two chars in a flashback about them as sisters living their life before Tharn and Phaya fell in love.
Aside from Yai, and a little bit of the captain, the side characters are pretty thin for me. Fun! Don't get me wrong the grandmas and Phaya's sister are really cute - no I do not care about the second couple they're boring and I'd rather have Yai's wife be a member of the team and give him and her second couple status on the show - Namani is a freaking star, I like the Abbott. But their roles are cursory, they serve a plot function or trope - the overly protective grandmother, the caring and sassy sibling, the comedic relief coworkers, the magical exposition sister - and so on.
I think I'm bummed about it b/c the show is so good on other levels that this one thing is like, aw :(
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