#i say that as a native spanish speaker
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latino!steve randle who tries his best to suppress any instinct to speak spanish because his mom left him when he was ten; why should he honour her by speaking her language?
and he hates that he can’t suppress the way spanish music on the radio reminds him of home
he hates that when he gets mad the first words that come to mind are the same ones his mother screamed as she walked out the door for the last time
he hates that calling soda "cielo" and "mi amor" is as natural as breathing while "darling" and "love" feel clunky in his mouth
he hates that the shepards feel inherently more trustworthy and safe than they really are just because steve's the only one who can understand their banter
but as much as he hates it, he hates all of it, he can't make it go away.
and then there's two-bit, who still curses his father out in italian five years after he's run off
and there's ponyboy, who uses his first earnings to sign up for a spanish class so he can talk to steve
and there's darry, who starts spending more time with tim and now says "mierda" instead of "shit" when he burns his hand while cooking
and there's johnny, who doesn't say much but listens, and doesn't say a word about steve switching languages mid-sentence
and there's dally, who imitates motors by rolling his 'r's, something he learned from steve himself
and then there's soda
soda who was never any good at school but pays attention in spanish class because he wants to have a secret language with his best friend
soda who can hardly string two words together, but he tries, and in ninth grade he asks steve if he wants to walk home together in spanish
soda whose brown doe eyes practically turn to hearts when he manages to coax steve into saying a couple sentences in spanish
soda who bribes curly shepard with a pack of cigarettes into teaching him common terms of endearment only to find out half of them were insults
soda who doesn't say "i love you" but "te quiero", whispered into the buzzing silence of their new apartment
and all of that doesn't make steve stop remembering his mother every time cesar costa comes up on the radio, but it helps. he can't erase memories, no one can, but he can add more. he can dilute the rotten bits of the past with the overwhelming care from his friends.
maybe one day hearing a 'kh' will make him think of long shifts at the dx, helping soda with his homework, instead of "hijo de puta" and a slam of the door.
#okay so maybe italian and spanish aren't the same#but they're really fucking similar#i say that as a native spanish speaker#i understand like at least 90% of the italian i hear#the outsiders#steve randle#latino steve randle#sodapop curtis#stevepop#ponyboy curtis#darry curtis#darrel curtis#dallas winston#dally winston#johnny cade#twobit mathews#chippedshake#fanfics
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@itwouldeatyoualive per your request-
This is the Spanish version of the karaoke night page! Not much is different, but I find it really funny that Ford's writing is actually readable here. he was fuckin GONEEE in the English version 💀
Translation:
"I probably shouldn't be writing this, but I had a very weird? Well, it was a night! And now it's day? Cill Bipher. He did a dream? Karaoke? And afterwards one thing led to another, and normally I try to be sober, but...he mixed a dream drink and??? I should say it. I just should say it. Look it's just me and my journal here. I should say: this guy, Bill, he really has it all figured out. Also the rats were his idea? I get it now. I'm gonna, we're gonna, what times. What a hangover. I'm gonna sleep. All day. Ad aspera aspirin
- Stranfrord Pi"
#y después una cosa llevó a la otra...amen.#Spanish is my second language so I'd be interested to hear what native speakers have to say about the differences#anyway trust I WILL read the whole damned thing.#most sane billford fan#billford#gravity falls#the book of bill#stanford pines#bill cipher#fearoftriangles#spanish tbob saga#gotta give the people what they want
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Language mistakes that reveal how someone's native language works are really cute but it's even cuter when it's a mistake that's mirrored in both languages tbh
#i grew up hearing spanish speakers say 'people is' instead of 'people are' and#i was absolutely delighted to discover that english speakers will say 'la gente son' in spanish instead of 'la gente es'#because people is plural in english#it hadnt occured to me before that english speakers would make that mistake but it makes so much sense??#btw not making fun of people that make this mistake i think its fascinating how our native languages shine thru when speaking another one#lnl#languages
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Something that always annoys me is the idea only 1 language learning method works. Which is not true. While it may be possible that, for a particular individual, only a few out of many study methods may work well enough for That Individual to make progress and stay motivated... that doesn't mean all the other study methods won't work for anyone else out there, or that those few methods will work for every other given person.
Obviously if you've been studying a while, then you already figured out what kinds of things work for you and don't. If you're a beginner, just wading into studying?
I would suggest you simply look for study methods that: 1. Teach you new things regularly, 2. Review and practice things you've learned, 3. Include studying things you need for your particular goals (for example if your goal is to read X book then the study materials at some point should involve reading practice and some words the book contains, if your goal is to talk about Y then the study materials should include some information about pronunciation and words you'll need to be able to say).
As you can imagine, a TON of study materials will meet these requirements. And you can study a given skill in a LOT of ways.
(Reading is my focus lol so just for reading, a beginner might: do vocabulary study with lists or conversations with native speakers or watching shows and looking words up or listening to dialogues with a transcript like in a textbook or graded readers or a picture book with word labels in the target language or a video game with labelled objects in target language, all of those things as long as your vocabulary is improving or reading practice is happening would help you make progress). So to improve reading skill as a beginner: you could study with a textbook, a podcast with transcript, a classroom or tutor with words written down in target language (like TPRS), a video game, a TV show and a translate app on your phone, a friend you talk with (who either writes words down or you look up words you hear with a translate app), a friend you text with, srs flashcards like anki (provided there's text) etc. As long as there's new words, and/or you're practicing reading, the study method may work. If it works will come down to if you can stay motivated doing it regularly, and make sure you regularly learn some new things and review/practice things you've already studied.
So consider those things when you see people selling a study method as a product (especially when it's costing you money). Consider if it teaches you NEW things, and are those new things related to your goals, and how MUCH new stuff will it teach you before you finish it? Consider if it provides review or practice, or if you can use it's materials to review on your own making up your own method, or if you'll need to do separate review/practice.
So examples:
LingQ. Can it teach you many new words? Yes, thousands, since you can import any texts you want when you get done with their provided material (I have no idea how much their beginner material covers though in terms of words... I would hope 1000-3000 words but that can be researched). Is your goal reading? It's suited to reading, so you will practice and review often with it. Cost? I think it was $12 a month when I last had it, and the price may have increased. Is it worth it? Depends on a learner's needs. I found it was wasting my money, so I chose to use free tools like Pleco and Readibu apps - since those apps are suited for Chinese learners and have better translations, Pleco has better paid graded reader material if I was going to spend money, and both Pleco and Readibu let me import texts so I can learn thousands of new words just like LingQ but free. Now that I'm not a beginner, I often use Microsoft Edge to read chinese... since I can still click-translate words easily (all my web browsers have that tool free), and Edge's TTS voice is helpful for pronunciation and sounds quite good. I read webnovels online so Edge works well. But it's translations aren't as good as Pleco or Readibu, so if I still needed translations more I would use them. So... is LingQ a good study method? Its certainly a study method marketed to buy. Well... the method is suited to improving reading skill, at least. It costs money, which is a negative, but it does offer a lot. However: everything it does regarding reading can be done free with other apps or sites or web browsers on their own. So if paying money motivates you to read... sure. LingQ does have a few word tracking features a learner may find worth the money, keeping in mind the actual read-to-learn method can be done free without lingq. (Also... while LingQ is a valid option for improving reading, if the learners goal is speaking then it would be important to think of what study activities the learner will do OUTSIDE of LingQ to improve speaking... because I've seen how LingQ is marketed as "how to learn a language" but it's only focused on some skills. It has vocabulary and grammar in some sense, since you'll read a lot and encounter new words and structures. But it doesnt have speaking or writing practice at least last time I was on it. Those activities would need to be worked on, on your own).
You can do that kind of cost/benefit contemplating with any study method material you see being sold. Amother example: there's a beginner Mandarin course called Mandarin Blueprint. It teaches like 800 words. Thats all. It may be worthwhile for a beginner... who still needs to learn 800 common words. But if you already know a few hundred words, the benefit of the course is less, you'll need to find a new material to teach you more new stuff soon. And the price was like a few hundred for the course... which for me personally was too much to spend, when I had already learned 800 hanzi from a book that cost me 12 dollars and 2000 words from a free user made memrise deck. The course claimed to get a person speaking, competent, but anyone not a beginner would say speaking basically with 800 words is nowhere near the level of working in Chinese or just doing a lot of daily life stuff, or reading/listening to media. (Although for the motivated beginner if you're learning 800 words on your own like I was, its definitely close to the point of jumping to learn more words and start reading kids and teenager books, and watching easier shows if you're willing to look new words up). So to me... Mandarin Blueprint felt like overselling some basic beginner materials. (Again when I know several other things that teach beginner stuff either more in depth so HSK test prep classes, and college courses, or that teach beginner stuff to the same depth as Mandarin Blueprint but free).
Some study materials aren't going to act like they teach everything. I've seen chinese courses just for learning to speak tones better and general pronunciation - probably worthwhile if your goal is to improve speaking and a teacher could help improve the issues your having. But a learner needs to be aware for that course that they'll need to study vocabulary on their own, its JUST a pronunciation improvement course.
#rant#i saw a lot of comments on forums yesterday thinking automatic language growth alg was like snake oil#aka a scam. but it can be done for free (free lessons online) and for people who#learn well from visual context and guessing (i learn well that way) the lesson style DOES result in learning new words and grammar#so provided you can find ALG type free lessons that teach 1000+ words (ideally 3000+ words) then you will learn#enough grammar and words to then move onto native speaker content to continue studying. so all free#i have not seen yet how ALG helps students with speaking or writing yet though. so i can only say it for sure improves passive skills#specifically listening with new words and grammar. and listening translates to reading if you practice that on your own#even just with subtitles or podcast transcripts.#the issue for me is can i find alg courses that teach a thousand words in a timely manner (and free if thats my personal requirement)#i think Dreaming Spanish and Comprehensible Thai do have enough free courses to teach 1000+ words#so those ones would get you to possibly intermediate b1 level in passive listening skill#and then its up to you on if 1 that meets your goal 2 you learn well with that lesson type 3 you are motivated to do the lessons#like... duolingo itself is not completely useless... it teaches 3000 words on most courses (and maybe 1500 common words). the big issue for#me with duolingo is it takes me AGES to complete a lesson and complete a course (years). cause i cant focus on it#whereas with duolingos content... its beginner content. at best it will get Reading skill to A2 or low B1#and maybe other skills if you practice OUTSIDE duolingo with the words and grammar u learned.#so getting to A2 vocab shouldnt take me more than a year to learn (based on how i study). i can learn it in 6 months if i#just study a wordlist on paper and a grammar guide online. so since duolingo takes me 4 times LONGER to study than the other methods i use?#duolingo is a waste of my time. not worth it (and it markets itself as if it will get a learner to B2 when it wont. and it markets#as if 1 lesson a day is all you need. to make progress in 6 months in duolingo like my wordlist study...#you'd need to be doing duolingo 1-3 hours a day... which duolingo does not tell u to do. and most learners dont
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night doodle of my version of rise!venus getting them banned from hueso’s for a month.
Por qué no puede el esqueleto subirse en la montaña rusa?
Porque debes ser así de alto para subirte y el esta seis pies debajo.
#rottmnt#doodles#i woke up in a cold sweat and scribbled this out#i just think it’d be funny if venus was more annoying than leo#i actually love puns and jokes#also i only got like 4yrs of spanish i’m not a native speaker#if my grammars wrong i apologize#also if anyone happens to know if the original with the stomach idiom translates?#thimbell is saying dumb stuff again#dont mind me im just being silly#tmnt venus de milo#rottmnt venus
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I keep drinking coffee thinking it's gonna make me Productive and then instead of doing the work I actually have to do I just compulsively make spreadsheets :(
#my homework is. not done#but!!! i just realized if i take 2 spanish classes i can have a russian/spanish major instead of just russian#(it's complicated but this would leave me with: double major languages and history with a joint major in asian middle east studies)#(plus a minor in religious studies and concentration in islamicate studies)#first i gotta: relearn spanish for like the third time#but it's ok i'm hopping thru spain in less than a month so i should proooobably do that anyway#man when i was touring colleges my mom was like really dismissive about the idea of double majoring and now i'm here like#How Many Things Can I Stack Up To Get Big Number On Transcript#aaaaaaaand because of ames requirements i did the dumb thing and ended up learning persian while my spanish is still kinda iffy#итак совершилося то что я пытался предотвратить as they say#so i'm just gonna have to study two languages at once next semester... or just keep going thru the cycle of relearning them abt every year#my russian is a big girl it can survive on its own but i now gotta feed the babiessssss#tho ig what this kinda cyclically learning and forgetting spanish has taught me is like#languages are less like babies and more like those lil desert plants that wither up when they don't have any water#they might look dead but they're nearly impossible to kill completely#and will bounce right back after a lil care n patience. i just gotta like.... water em#the one thing standing in my way is ideological opposition to my spanish textbook#i have to pay $200 for access to a *website*#*i don't even get a book just a shitass ebook*#but it's ok one of the spanish profs likes me i think? i think she would let me skip the intro lit class#only problem is it was Genuinely Hard for me to follow along when i audited advanced lit... 90% of the class was heritage speakers#tho ig like. having taken a class meant for native russian speakers should help w learning to survive that kinda thing#genuinely i think i can do it#just gotta make that my goal. study. do it for zapata#and if i wanna go into translating... having good spanish should help right? like if i finally get b2 spanish?#yeah. if i could do kazakh history for native russian speakers i can do spanish lit for heritage spanish speakers. it's equivalent enough#but ok i'm gonna visit my buddy in spain who did nearly the exact same shitass majors combination as me#tho i think he did spanish/arabic for his language major and just Happens To Also Be Fluent In Russian cuz he's Like That#it's ok he's two years older than me i have two years to become that cool#he can tell me what to do
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And tell me in the notes how you voted, where you’re from, and what language(s) you speak!
#I say jag-wahr am a native English speaker and second language Spanish speaker and am from Arizona USA for reference#Jaguar#jaguars#pronunciation#poll#language#linguistics#feline#cat
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Re:Kinder Fun fact time!! Did you know? 😊
Yuuichi's theme song (the one that often accompanies his entrances with "Vamos Cantar!"), 新しい夏のナナ, is not in any latin language such as Spanish or Portuguese, despite its lyrics sounding as such. It's actually in Hanamogera, which to put it simply is nonsense speech based on japanese syllables. So the song's lyrics are essentially gibberish meant to imitate the sound of latin music! 😊
It is listed as such in the source site for the song, oo39.com, where the song can be found as "YS068" in the hanamogera category.
Additional fun fact! The song can also be found in Spotify as Vien Nana by Oo39.com themselves alongside a few other select songs from the site. So you can properly enjoy the song on the platform without having to import it from your local files.
Those are the fun Re:Kinder related fun facts for today... Use them to entertain your friends at parties ! ☺️
#re:kinder#not art#now tiny storytime in the tags!!! 😊...#what prompted me to look into this months ago was the fact i genuinely thought it was in spanish at first#AS A SPANISH NATIVE SPEAKER. I HEARD THIS SONG VAGUELY AND WAS LIKE... WOW... i wonder what it says!#because i thought i didnt understand it as i was mostly paying attention to the text or because of my computer's speaker#plugged headphones in and heard carefully... i didnt understand anything. but it sounded just like it i was so confused#for a second i wondered if it was portuguese but there was no way it was because even then i would have known😭#the magic of knowing either language of spanish (at least latin spanish) and portuguese is it makes the other very recognizable#this was not it looked for the opinions of other latin speaking language people THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND A THING#and thats how i ended up looking into the source and finding this out 😊#i was very pleasantly surprised to see it was gibberish because IM NOT SURE HOW TO EXPRESS TO YOU ITS VERY GOOD#VERY WELL DONE GIBBERISH SO WELL DONE IT MAKES A PROPER SENTENCE AT ONE POINT#gibberish so well done it fooled native speakers into thinking it was their own languages . so good im so obsessed with this#i had to share this fun fact eventually somrwhere other than yourjbe comments#and i remembered i could acrually speak here about the game and not only post art of it teehee😊#so thats your awesome fun fact micht also drop more if im confident in doing so and their validity because theres more tbat are in japanese#and im trying to figure em out watch as i study the inner workings of a language so i dont have to learn how to actually speak it#(i love conlangs so this is a good excuse)
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i still haven't gotten real baghera and rivers interactions have i........... like the barest of interactions......... a drought........... i was so fucking curious...... i am still so curious............ twenty minutes of conversation and i would be fed forever............ i'd never ask for anything again.... baghera wasn't even there when bolas was doing the whole hostage situation she was off doing her own thing.......... i'm so curious........... i want to know..... what would the dynamic be........ how would they interact............ i'll never know.............. crying...........
#qsmp#if they've interacted somewhere and i just missed it somehow i will be punching the table#and i mean like a conversation bc i have a vague memory of baghera introducing herself to rivers maybe????#but like a CONVO not just hi bye YOU KNOW#you know what i mean. you know.#i'm pretty sure there are tags on my blog from pre-rivers saying:#'god i hope rivers can join (...) i'm so curious what her and baghera's dynamic would end up being'#and i sincerely hope the answer isn't 'nonexistent lol' please 😭 don't do this to me#literally one twenty minute conversation so i could chart a trajectory i'll never ask for anything again#this is a personal curiosity i'm just very interested in people and how they interact and the myriad of dynamics that form it's fascinating#rivers and baghera's personalities are really interesting to me in their own ways#what can i say i like throwing ingredients into the test tube and SHAKING THEM TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS#shut up vic#block game brainrot#there are no metaphors it's just 4 am and i'm grieving the gaping holes in possible interactions#also i just watched a slimecicle qsmp vod those always leave me somewhat unhinged. you get it. you understand.#long tags#((also rivers who speaks french and baghera who's picking up spanish SCREAMING can i hear ONE person on this smp who isn't a native speaker#say something in french that isn't PETITE BITE or VOULEZ VOUS COUCHEZ AVEC MOI))#((i don't even have a personal stake in that battle tbh i'm not a native french speaker but sometimes i try to think of someone outside-#the 'french' w their translations box set to french and man. i come up empty. and it makes me bummed))#((i get why i think but i'm still a bit bummed. would be nice to see the french speakers hearing a nonnative speaker in their language))#((i think it would be funny if rivers spoke french to one of em. etoiles esp would be funny))#(((if anyone's curious i'm avoiding specifics abt rivers bc i'm terrified of being wrong bc My Spanish Is SHIT)))#(((i certainly have thoughts but rather than Be Permanently Wrong On The Internet i will hold them in my chest and one day Die)))#damn these really are long tags hahahahahaha 4 am..............................#anyway tl;dr i will never not be curious how rivers would interact w the smp as a whole i get very excited seeing her log in that's the pos#((and if anyone's worried no i don't message in twitch chats and i deactivated my twitter a year and a half ago lol))#REMINDER THAT IT'S FOUR AM SORRY IF THE TAGS ARE UNHINGED AND FULL OF BAD TAKES I CAN'T BE HELD RESPONSIBLE
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I remember watching for the first time ride the cyclone and in the lines of the ballad of Jane doe “with no soul and no name” and thinking “but you do have a name, Jane Doe” since im not a native English speaker. I literally found out what means to be a Jane Doe when I looked up Jane Doe hopping to find things of the musical and saw a lot of videos of unidentified female body’s. That’s when it hit me
#Being a Spanish native speaker and not knowing what a Jane Doe is#And being a fan of ride the cyclone#Can you imagine?#Jane Doe#with no soul and no name#And I was a bit confused like girl why are you saying you don’t have a name#Maybe they didn’t knew your name in life#But they gave you a name in that#So#you do have a name#I didn’t knew what it was a Jane Doe ok😭#ride the cyclone#ride the cyclone Jane Doe#spain#Spanish
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Flexing my (admittedly quite limited) knowledge of Spanish for the sake of Mexican Luffy, Spaniard Cora, and Canarian Sanji.
#nic glyphs#law and zoro in this situation are a lot like me: i can understand more than i can speak#i've had considerable exposure#i've taken spanish classes unlike them; but their closest loved ones are native speakers#law can follow along a bit better than zoro just bc their brains work differently#since these character details are inspired by opla and the actors i've also made sanji half lebanese :)#but i switched up taz's parents (on purpose) so sora was lebanese :)#i simply want sanji to say habib(t)i#🤗#nic fics: daffodils#bloom au
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Reading these tik tok comments about fic writers using google translate for Spanish (when writing for Miguel) really has me insecure cause now I’m second guessing my shit…
#⊹ ⋆゚꒰ఎ pooh’s rambling again ໒꒱ ⋆゚⊹#they’re like ‘ask a native Spanish speaker’ like I have one of those available#and why the fuck would I ask a native speaker to tell me how to say the most uncouth shit imaginable#PLEASE YOU THINK I HAVE THE BALLS FOR THAT??#oh yeah hey person I know that speaks Spanish how do I say ‘I want you to fuck me three way from Sunday?’#NO! ARE YOU INSANE?
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Listen I know Spain has its problems (sociopolitically in particular as a concern to me) but goddamn if I don’t have the best time on every stay. Was thinking about this earlier in the week, have I ever had a bad day in Spain? Even one minute where I wasn’t enjoying myself? And I couldn’t recall a thing 😭
#might fuck around and add to my already odd accent/terminology mix of ceceo (the lisp) yeísmo and blend of Mexican and spanish phrases#the dropped s which is a feature of (among other places) Andalucía#I mean I won’t because as a non native speaker I should enunciate as clearly as possible#but what if……….#spanish speakers around the world already look at me funny because my pronunciation is ok but then ceceo is so distinct#and they quickly find out I know like 15 words total#but listen those 15 words…..I say them really fluently lol#me hearing myself tell the cab driver voy al parque Federico Garcia Lorca: damn that speed 👏
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I hate it when job ads are like "this role involves copywriting so you must be an English native speaker" girl give me a chance
#I am of course a hypocrite bc when it's “you must be an Italian native speaker” I'm like yeah of course that makes sense <3#ALTHOUGH tbf#english native speakers often overestimate their fluency in other languages in my experience#see my colleague delivering a translation into spanish (not his first language) that made the client go “btw this is bad”#whereas ESL speakers tend to be more realistic about their language skills#anyway this is to say that it's not fair TO ME.#which is all that matters#*
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Things that I, an ENTP, have told people that they just believed for some unknown reason #7
that i speak spanish....... ok it was on my resume and it came up in a job interview and I deserved this. I also managed to have a pretty ok conversation in spanish with the interviewer (and got the job!) This was the most spanish I’d ever spoken.
#context#i do speak french and listen to a lot of spanish#also the interviewer is native german speaking (and does speak spanish well bUT less critical than a native speaker might have been)#also i didn't say i had a GOOD level of spanish so it gave me some space#but man#that was a surprise#entp#mbti#meyers briggs#personality#personality type
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Yep. I ain't even Southern. Same for ain't.
We do not have Uds. in English. Thus y'all is needed.
Reblog if you say "Y'all"
#dialects#english#linguistics#sort of#spanish >>> english#and i say this as a non-native speaker of spanish
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