#i loved Papyrus so much and the whole time i was playing i was like hmm he reminds me of someone...? TOMMY. HE REMINDS ME. OF TOMMY.
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thegirlsarethriving · 1 year ago
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just finished undertale. ok i see the vision. i now understand yall's Sans-to-Benrey obsession pipeline. and the Papyrus-to-Tommy Coolatta pipeline
#undertale#hlvrai#hlvrai2#benrey#tommy coolatta#papyrus#benry#hlvrai benry#sans undertale#sans#undertale sans#undertale spoilers#i loved Papyrus so much and the whole time i was playing i was like hmm he reminds me of someone...? TOMMY. HE REMINDS ME. OF TOMMY.#i played pacifist but i saw how if u kill every1 n spare Papyrus Sans tells him every1 else is on a vacation bc truth would be too hard#file under: lies Gordon would tell Tommy if anything happened to Sunkist or his dad Gman#we wanna protect Tommy but on the other hand. the horrors r everywhere & Tommy go ham with a gun (he's terrified & acting on pure instinct)#(even tho Tommy has definitely faced his share of horrors in contrast to how Papyrus's loved ones try to shelter him from bloodshed)#i wanna write a paper psychoanalyzing Sans and Benrey in comparison to each other SOOOOO badly#it's been a hot minute since i last watched hlvrai (have seen it at least 4 times but not recently. did watch bbvrai live tho!)#im so extremely tired rn so i can't form proper thoughts :( but like:#they both have unfathomable otherworldly power and knowledge of their respective universes#but u wouldn't know it bc they're presented as just some chill guy who likes to make jokes and Vibe man#sike! they're a being of elderitch levels of power#they both act in accordance to game code but Sans can control parts of it (can see the timeline) while Benrey is much more subject to it#in some ways they are the antithesis of each other's motives but also contain the same vibes (all-powerful guy laidback n funny final boss)#Sans is judgment but doesn't interfere with the timeline. Benrey takes action that's “i knew this was gonna happen”#Benrey is fought as the final villain whereas Sans is arguably the final hero fight#anyways THEIR VIBES ARE BOTH SO !!!!!!!!!!!!!#idk if they'd be besties or mortal enemies#they can bond over being “unserious” (but they both take their true jobs very seriously. security guard and judgment bringer respectively)
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o-sunny-day · 5 months ago
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@forgettable-au Babybones Fancomic ✨
“Keep Reading” for the rest :3 (10 Pages)
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*deep breath*
you hear that?
thats the sound of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ok. I spent. 31 Hours of my life on this. And i dont regret. a GODAMN thing.
i will go on, but first, A N A L Y S I S
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The title “Radio Star” comes from the song “Video Killed The Radio Star” by The Buggles. Its lyrics I believe are absolutely perfect for this AU, Examples being “Rewritten by machine and new technology” , “We hear the playback and it seemed so long ago” , and “We cant rewind we’ve gone too far”
The title also refers to how…1, they build a radio-
and 2, Sans calls Papyrus a Star at Grillbys if you call him “uncool”
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This is the first real scene I had in mind. The entire concept came from me imagining how Sans’ memories of Wingdings got overwritten, so where in memories he’d call Wingdings by his name, he calls him Papyrus.
In an animation with audio, itd be like “Aw cmon, P A P Y R U S” and be a silly little jumpscare.
Buttttt then ofc the idea turned into a thing where I couldn’t shape it into a “fake” memory.
I wanted to play with their characters as they WERE not how they remember them being.
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Nothing
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As they travel to the barrier, Wingdings is leading, and COMPLETELY focused on his goal. Ignoring Gerson (social interaction) while Sans takes his time and looks around getting “distracted”. This exemplifies the nature of their relationship.
Them in Hotland, they’re actually right next to the lab. Taking the elevator the guards were…guarding. So Sans is looking at the lab like “hey. Hey wingdings, look, look at that building, thats so cool”
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At the bottom is just another example of Wingdings being deadset on his goal, while Sans is helping out but still stopping to smell the flowers
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This panel makes me so happy-
It works??? vs It works!!!
Wingdings doesn’t come across as the kind of guy to doubt himself, I just think he’d be shocked at himself regardless that he pulled this off. Meanwhile Sans is just thrilled 😭
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N/A
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Oh boy this is the finale of explanation.
This conversation that Asgore and Sans have. Is REALLY important to me
Asgore/everyone that isnt sans, cannot understand Wingdings. So, Sans is talking for him. It may come across as him taking all the glory or whatever, but NO. look at his dialogue boxes! they’re not blocking out WD, and he’s like “YEAH 😊 MY BROTHERS SO FUCKING COOL”
Meanwhile Asgores boxes are completely blocking WD out. He thinks Sans built it cause hes doing all the explaining, and Sans isnt getting the hint that Asgore THINKS THAT HE MADE IT its a whole thing
Wingdings appreciates Sans, but he doesn’t appreciate people thinking he did all the work-
Asgores dialogue box when asking “How did you build such a thing??” is covering Wingdings, and he’s looking at SANS. he’s asking Sans how he built it, meanwhile Sans, still not getting the clue, is looking at wingdings like “:) cmon bro, tell him, you know ill translate for you!”
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Sans then understands at least that Wingdings does not want to indulge this- and goes into explaining mode, as hes done it so many times before-
Sans saying “You cant understand him” instead of something like “his font is hard to understand” is important because he is putting the “blame” on you. He’s fully aware this is something Wingdings WISHES he could change about himself so badly, so he just kinda naturally changes his tone which I find really fun when writing dialogue :3
This comic, I feel is an example of how much this AU/comic series means to me-
As much as I obsess over and LOVE comics as a medium, this is the first ever I have ever properly finished. ofc there have been like 2 page ones, but YEAH this is the first BIG one i have ever finished in my entire life.
These characters- as much as they’re Tobys, they are also Sunsestarts in my opinion. The situation they are put in of JUST the font trouble alone is something i’m SO fascinated by and clearly- had the time of my LIFE writing and playing with. And thats ignoring all the other shit that happens BECAUSE of that.
Undertale is special, The Forgettable AU is SPECIAL- THESE SKELETONS ARE SPECIAL
Im on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens next because I know whatever it is, its gonna be special
also, I made this while listening to Slipping Through My Fingers on repeat. I regret nothing
((ALSO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND TIME/SPACE BY ALEX G, ITS A GREAT SONG IM DEFINITELY GONNA STORYBOARD A FORGETTABLE AMV TO CAUSE ITS REALLY REALLY GOOD, ID TOTALLY TIE IT TO THIS COMIC- BUT ITS MORE FOR PAPYRUS AND GASTER INTERACTIONS RATHER THAN BABYBONES???)
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inbarfink · 2 years ago
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Any analysis of how Undertale deals with Pacifism and how it tries to guide the Player towards it has to take a deep look at Papyrus. Because Papyrus is the one character in the game who will never kill, the one actual ‘True Pacifist’ in the game’s main cast. 
I mean, the Player can be an even bigger Pacifist. Papyrus does still FIGHT, and the Player can get through an entire run without draining a single sliver of HP. But… they can also be the world’s biggest murderbastard and literally stab reality to death. 
Toriel would very much like to not kill, but she is also fully capable of doing so.
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Same with Asgore, but he has a lot more actual blood on his hands. Undyne and Mettaton are both fully 100% willing to kill to accomplish their goals. Sans is non-violent in most runs because he’s too lazy and depressed to do anything, and when he is motivated into actions - it is in the form of a FIGHT to the death. Alphys… the timeline is a bit fuzzy cause both she and Mettaton love lying so much, but it seems like she did sincerely add deadly weapons to Mettaton cause killing humans would make him more 'useful' and then had second thoughts once she developed a parasocial relationship with the Human Child and THEN she and Mettaton started hatching their little play-acting plan. I think??
With Papyrus there is NONE of this ambiguity, we know for sure - no matter what timeline or what may come - The Great Papyrus will always choose MERCY.
And the interesting thing about that is on a Meta-Sense, Papyrus is a very rare example of the game giving MERCY towards the Player. 
Because the game starts out being really obtuse with the Sparing mechanic and how it works. If you want to be a Pacifist in Undertale from the get-go, you’re gonna have to work for it. You're gonna have to figure it out on your own and commit to it and believe that it's possible. It's basically a test of your own belief in non-violence and your moral integrity. Then, the RUINS end with the Toriel boss battle - in a way, that’s probably the hardest Sparing puzzle in the whole game. And it’s very very easy to accidentally kill her. (I’d almost say that’s the intention of the battle, to try to goad the Player into Resetting so they can see how the game remembers across RESETs)
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And then we have Papyrus, and it’s not just that his ‘Sparing Puzzle’ is something as simple as outlasting him and letting him run out of dialogue - and it’s not just that he’s the only boss that will just give up and let you continue if you lose to him enough times. it’s also that, just as Papyrus is the only boss incapable of accidentally killing the Player - he’s also the only boss that the player is incapable of accidentally killing.
(Okay, fine, to be pedantic, there’s also Asgore)
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I mean, the Player can certainly kill him if they want to - but draining Papyrus’s HP just makes him skip through his battle dialogue right to the end of it. It’s designed in such a way that, no matter what Route you're on and no matter what approach you take with Papyrus - you will always end up on this screen.
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Unlike basically any other Monster in this game, including the major boss battle just before him - you can’t kill Papyrus accidently. You can't kill him without also having Sparing him as an option. The game kinda treats killing Papyrus as one of the Worst Things You Can Do because killing Papyrus will always be a deliberate, considered action done to a person who will not kill you and who has stopped wanting to FIGHT and has extended a hand of Mercy. With the game clearly communicating what you need to do to Spare him at that moment.
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And that means that - even if you killed before, even if you don’t have the patience of a True Pacifist, even if you spent all this time in the game without even trying to engage with the Sparing mechanic… as long as you don’t want to be a Huge Rat Bastard, the game is basically gifting you with the very very easy option to not be. Being a Pacifist in Undertale is usually a challenge - a puzzle to be solved, a test to pass. But as long as you aren’t intentionally trying to be the Worst Person - the game is basically giving you Papyrus. 
If you accept his Mercy, you are accepting the game’s Mercy. That sort of benefit-of-the-doubt assumption that maybe all of the LOVE you might have accumulated so far was all due to honest mistakes or panic or an attempt in self-defense. That you still deserve this one chance to prove that you are not intentionally, maliciously cruel - or at least not like the Worst Person in the World. Even if you did kill before, you still deserve at least one friend.
And Sparing Papyrus leads you to his wonderful Hangout/Dating Sequence and to his Phone Calls and they all add so much wholesome charm to the Undertale experience and no matter what happens Papyrus will always think the best of the Player and he will always trust them and it also makes Sans also kinda your buddy by default. And more than just adding a little bit of wholesome charm into even the more LOVE-filled Playthroughs, I think this is meant to try and incentivize these players into trying out the Mercy mechanic a bit more.
Whatever it’s, like, for future playthroughs or Resetting the game right there to try a True Pacifist Run right there and then or just trying to be a little kinder for the rest of this current playthrough - especially since there’s an emphasis about the close friendship Papyrus has with the upcoming boss Undyne, and to a lesser extent with his idol and next-next boss battle Mettaton. It’s like “well, if you didn’t figure out how to spare before, this is how you do it? And isn’t it nice to have a friend? Isn’t it nice to not have to kill this lovable skeleton man? You should do this more often wink wink nudge nudge!”
And it’s like… all of Papyrus’ loved ones care about him so much but they also look down on his pacifism. They see his inability to kill and desire to make friends as simple naivete and that’s why all tend to hide the truth from him all the time. About what will happen to the Human he will capture, about what his new Human friend might’ve done, about the fact that they view him as so naïve. 
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They admire it on some level, that’s why they want to protect it, but they also see it as a weakness which is why they want to protect it by lying to him all the time. But, you know, Undyne says that if Papyrus goes into battle he’ll be ‘ripped into little smiling shreds’ and that is certainly what happens every time a Player chooses to refuse Papyrus’ Mercy and the game’s Mercy and press that FIGHT button…
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But have you thought about all the times that doesn’t happen? All the careless or violent players who were offered that skeletal hand of friendship, accepted it and then carried that offered kindness forward for the rest of the game? All the players motivated to do good for the sake of their buddy Papyrus? All the Murder Routes stopped because the player just didn’t have it in them to kill someone who believes in them so earnestly?
Like, no, it’s not a surefire thing - especially since Papyrus has so much less narrative power than the Actual Unkillable Time God that is the Player. But it happened, and it happened many many times to many players. Papyrus offered Mercy, the game offered Mercy. And much like Frisk’s Pacifism, it comes from a place of seeing the honest goodness in your ‘enemy’ and can inspire them to become a better person - this little sparkle of goodness being passed forwards. 
And I think that’s beautiful, even if it didn’t happen in every timeline. Any potential future where Papyrus’ kindness can have such an effect on the Player and thus the entire trajectory of the Underground validates his kindness and pacifism on some level - even if there are also always the potential worlds that it backfires completely. 
And there’s also one other way in which the Great Papyrus Proves Pacifism Pays. One that is a bit more practical, perhaps. And one that Papyrus himself is not even aware of. 
Papyrus’ boss battle can be a surprisingly challenging one specifically because he is the only one who doesn’t kill the Player.
Like there is a reason why Papyrus will just offer you to skip his Fight after you lose to him three times, because if he didn’t do that - there’s an honest risk that the Player can get stuck in a much stuckier way than anywhere else in the game. 
Because, like, for basically any other character in the game, being killed is the Worst Thing that could ever happen to them. For everyone except the actual Player Character because we are an Actual Unkillable Time God and dying is nothing more than a minor annoyance that sets you back to your last SAVE Point. So, leaving aside Papyrus’ admirably kind intentions - there is not much material difference from the Player’s perspective between getting Captured and getting a more traditional GAME OVER. Except…
Except getting Captured does not undo everything that happened in your inventory during the battle. In every other Undertale battle, if you use all of your items but still lose - the GAME OVER at least means you get your stuff back. But because Papyrus doesn’t kill you, any healing item you’ve used during the battle is still used. I have watched so many Undertale Let’s Players waste all of their valuable items on their first Papyrus battle and then have to face him again without them and thus do even worse in their second go… and then their third go... and thankfully then Papyrus offers them to skip the fight.
And while that technically can be circumvented by just manually closing the game and opening it back again on their pre-battle SAVE Point, a lot of players are gonna reflexively Save over it if they pop over to the Shop or the Snowed Inn before their second attempt at the battle. If Papyrus didn’t offer that chance to skip his battle, it could’ve easily become a softlock situation for a huge chunk of players - because he doesn’t kill the Player.
Most of Undertale deals with the value of non-violence from a standpoint of morality and kindness and personal connections. Since most people do die when they get killed. But when dealing with an Unkillable Time God like the Player, Papyrus proves that not-killing might actually be the most practical solution.
Of course, it doesn’t seem like Papyrus is aware of any of this. From his perspective, he is just offering genuine mercy to a being just as ephemeral as he is. But it accidentally turned into one of the most effective methods of blocking the Player’s way… at least he didn’t offer us an opt out so soon after that. 
And it’s interesting when comparing him to how his brother Sans - one of the few people actually aware of the existence of SAVEs and RESETs - deals with the Player. Because the Sans boss battle at the end of the Murder Route is entirely based on the concept that death is nothing but an annoyance to the Player. Sans is less trying to kill the Player (the way Undyne the Undying did), he is simply trying to annoy the Player into a ragequit. But he is still killing the Player.
Now imagine a Sans battle where he has all of his usual annoying tricks, but also instead of killing you - he captures you just like his brother would’ve in a happier timeline. And while it’s not a fool-proof plan to stop the Player in their tracks - he could very easily stick them in that sort of softlock situation where they have to battle him again and again without any Healing Items. Forcing them to either abandon the game or RESET the whole world back the way it was - just like Sans wants them too. 
But instead, by killing the Player, he is just allowing that perfect second-third-fourth-fifth-sixth-try where they get all of their Stuff back. And he does actually knows that. And why doesn’t he do that? (Speaking here from an in-universe character study perspective. Obviously the Doylist answer is that the game doesn’t want to Softlock you even in the most deliberately-frustrating part of the game).
Maybe, even though he intellectually knows that killing the Player will be of no help - he still does it because he wants to. Because he just wants to get back at the evil murderous monster that took his brother from him and destroyed his entire world even if he knows it’s actually ineffective. And this thirst for bloodshed is, ironically, blinding him from a new exciting way to actually practically stop that murderous bastard who is themself motivated entirely by bloodshed. 
Maybe he just can’t do something like that. Reducing an enemy to exactly one HP and then stopping is not a feat anyone else in the game is capable of pulling off - even the ones who would obviously use such a thing (like Toriel or a Player with a Pacifist intentions). Maybe it’s something that requires a lot of hard practice and discipline and carefulness, that Sans never thought to put in because he didn’t see it as a useful skill the way Papyrus did. 
Maybe that wouldn’t have worked anyways. After all, and that’s something I kinda touched on in a previous Overly Long Rambly Hot Take - Sans’ War of Attrition against the Player is greatly helped by the fact he can’t remember every single previous try and so he can’t get exhausted the way the Player can get. Obviously, without a GAME OVER induced RESET that will not apply. Which is especially notable because… Sans’ laziness is literally what brings him down at the end of that Boss Battle. 
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So maybe, while Papyrus, as long as you decline his offer to skip the battle, is capable of offering just the same Battle as before over and over and over again.... It’s possible that Sans just won’t be able to pull off two or three or more battles of the same intensity and difficulty in a row without a RESET to undo his own exhaustion. 
But I think it’s at least worth considering the option, y’know? That after all this time of viewing Papyrus’ kindness as sweet-and-yet-kinda-foolish-naïveté - that exact viewpoint made Sans overlook the perfect solution to dealing with his little Murderous Time God problem. Cause he just never considered that while killing might be fully morally justifiable in this situation and very very satisfying, that does not necessarily mean it is actually the most practical solution. And that maybe, in a weirdly twisted way, Pacifism WAS the answer.  
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cloudyskydreams · 5 months ago
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SO on period UT,UF,US,HT!
Ive had this sitting in my notes for awhile wasn't super proud of it still ain't but I wanted to post something, I just had to slap the HT brothers on and boom new post.
Also I've been wanting to write swapfell but I don't know the difference between that and fellswap or really their personalities cause it's so different for each fanfic so if someone could pls explain 🙏
Anyways here y'all go hope you enjoy!
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Undertale:
Sans:
I feel like sans is pretty knowledgeable so you didn't have to explain it to him. He takes it pretty maturely it's a natural part of life. The puns the horrible puns. He has so many specifically for this time of the month. He's always got your comfort snack on hand in his jacket pockets. He doesn't really change much he'll get off his ass if you ask him to but he sticks by your side mostly and lazes out cuddled with you while watching shows. Pretty good at getting products and snacks you might like he likes to get you some new snacks to try with him and he's good at guessing what you might like.
Papyrus:
This man is prepared. After you tell him what it is he researches it and WOWIE he wishes he just asked you to explain but now he's over prepared with knowledge! He has hot water bottles and weighted blankets at the ready. Any snacks you want, heck you want a whole meal? He's on it and it's prepared with extra love. He carries around your products for you and always has pain medicine in his bags. Pretty good at picking them up from the store too and has no shame getting them.
Underfell:
Red:
You gotta explain it to him and this man is bewildered for a bit. ya bleed from there for how long??? every month?! He's a little impressed?? Last he checked humans weren't supposed to lose huge amounts of blood but you're treating it like it's a normal thing. After he gets over his initial shock he'll try and help the best he can which is a little awkwardly. He makes a little nest for you out of blankets and pillows and makes sure you're comfortable. He and his magic run warm so he'll lay on your stomach and cuddle to help with cramps, pet his head and he might purr. He's pretty confused about products def one to send Babe what's your pussy size.
Edge:
He's aware, he's done his research on his own when you were ovulating about the human "mating cycle". Not a fun experience but he takes it in stride. He listens to what you need and trys to deliver. Massages for sore muscles and heating pads for cramps. He'll make you comfort food while you relax watching a show and join you afterwards for some cuddles. He's pretty good at getting products for you and takes the ones you like into consideration but he's always looking for better healthier alternatives for you.
Underswap:
Stretch:
Knows about it (blue taught him when he found out and Stretch showed interest in humans)and is a little awkward(traumatized from the talk with Blue). Hate to say it Stretch doesn't really know what to do he's not grossed out he just doesn't know how to handle it. He tries his best to be comforting giving snacks, heating pads, and cuddles. He's so awkward going to the store to get products plays it cool but has no idea what he's doing and definitely gets the wrong thing after his mind blanks while staring at all the products for too long. You just gotta train him he'll get better.
Blue:
Also knows and he's handling it alot better. He takes it in stride and understands the biggest part is you're uncomfortable and he's going to do his best to help with that. He takes care of chores you don't want to do, makes you comfort meals, and always has a heating pad ready. Has so many two player comfort games lined up for you guys, he has stuff to do but most of his work stuff can be done at home! Which means he'll just be a shout away if you need anything . Pretty good at getting products and is one to carry some around in his bag just in case when you guys go out.
HorrorTale:
Axe:
You have to explain it to him… Multiple times. He's confused as to why you smell like blood, he likes the smell but he's confused for a bit until he writes a note about it. He will not remember which products to get unfortunately. He's so confused staring at them you'll have to instruct him very clearly over a call and he still probably grabs the wrong one. Cuddles are supreme he's a giant so he'll engulf you in his form and his purrs practically shake your whole body. It's like a free massage chair whenever you want. He sticks closer by your side during this time of month knowing blood means your wounded and his protective urges flare up.
Willow:
You'll also have to explain it to him and he's extremely worried when he smells blood. Even more so when he learns how long you bleed, he knows how much blood a human can loose and it worries him you're losing so much. After you explain it's a normal thing and a part of life he calms down slightly. He cleans and cooks a lot when stressed or worried so you constantly have something to munch on and you don't have to worry about any chores. He stays over stocked up on supplies, he doesn't like going out in public very often but for this he will because he deems it important enough. It's why he stocks up so much when he goes out. Mother hens over you hard and you might have to pull him into cuddles to get him to relax for a bit.
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forgettable-au · 4 months ago
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How did you envision 'slipping through my fingers' to work with Forgettable?? I LOVE LOVE LOVE that song and when i make the animatic thing of it I REALLY wanna do it justice
I might start rambling about this so I'll add a keep reading lol
OKAY SO I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT SONG FOR THIS AU FOR SOOOOOO LONG
Gonna use this as my chance to talk about it lol
Okay so, it's definitely from Sans POV!
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The very first part could be about leaving for work, Wingdings is probably working from very early in the morning! Sans takes it more easy
and like "The feeling that I'm losing her forever. And without really entering her world" OH MY GOD THAT PART
IT WORKS SO WELL
He actually is losing him forever soon
Sans still doesn't fully understand what Wingdings thinks, which must be frustrating
"Slipping through my finger all the time" OUGHHH HE IS SLIPPING THROUGH HIS FINGERS
AND THEN "each time I think I'm close to knowing. She keeps on growing" Sans might think he's close to comprehending things, but Wingdings keeps changing and surprising him and it's at a faster pace everytime (until he's changed so much he's like a different person...and also at some point he becomes Papyrus, that also happens)
YOU GUYS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND,,, THEY'RE THE SAME AGE BUT SANS REALLY DOES SEE WINGDINGS AS HIS YOUNGER BROTHER,,,
I mean, he's always been taking care of him, helping him communicate, sticking with him through school, college, the lab
The fact that Dings is so far away from his grasp/understanding is AUGH
Why did I make this AU so self-indulgent, it is SO angsty in just the way that hits me hard LMAO Idk as someone with a little sibling, brother!Gaster hurts me more than father!Gaster
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You've heard about monsters getting a sense of deja vu when seeing the human
Now ...what about Sans getting a sense of premonition about what's gonna happen?
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This part would definitely be about their wish to be on the surface someday and all the other dreams they had
Some of them they did (getting that job at the lab), but most they didn't (seeing the real stars)
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I envision this part as the last happy thing that happened before the incident! A little group photo! Wish you could freeze the picture? Wish things could stay this way forever? WELL, I'M SORRY BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
Time is about to play a very silly game! (also this is so fitting with Gaster doing weird time things, maybe he is the funny tricks of time)
I obviously can't say what the incident is or how it plays out... because... that would be a huge spoiler... to the people reading this, you'll need to use your imagination!
Then there's the whole guitar part! Love that part! I imagine in the animatic I'm gonna make about this someday that there will be a shot of Sans' arm trying to reach one last time... sigh... The day I finally make this animatic it will be amazing...
But I really can't rn because spoilers! THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GUYS CAN'T TRY TO DO ONE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT
Then we can have two, or more idk
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OKAY! That last part of the song mirrors the first part of the song!
But this time!!!!! IT'S PAPYRUS!!! Leaving early In the morning for royal guard duties :D gotta calibrate those puzzles early!
AND THAT'S IT!!!!! obviously avoiding spoilers! but OH MY GOD
I SWEAR THIS SONG WAS ONE OF THE SONG THAT INSPIRED ME TO MAKE THIS AN ACTUAL COMIC BECAUSE I NEEDED TO MAKE THAT ANIMATIC AND FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND UJFIEF
What a girl is willing to do just so people can understand her silly angst animatic c: a whole comic
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haveyouseenthisskeleton · 7 months ago
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Can I have some cute random facts about the skeleton brothers?
Sure can!
Undertale Sans - Sans is the one who sneaked the annoying dog into the house Underground. He figured that when Papyrus is a little sad, the dog always managed to cheer him up, or, well, annoy him enough so he doesn't think about what's making him sad anymore.
Undertale Papyrus - When Undyne and Alphys had their first kid, Papyrus played the nanny so they could both sleep the first night as he could see they were both really exhausted. He ends up being the child's godfather as well and he would die for his niece/nephew.
Underswap Sans - He participated in a beauty contest for fun with Alphys in the first month he reached the Surface and won. He's still sleeping with his trophy to this day, he's actually very proud of it (mostly because Alphys didn't win anything and her jealous face will not make him laugh).
Underswap Papyrus - He didn't know how to swim and so he was sad when he found himself all alone during the first monster trip to the beach while everyone was having fun. So Asgore picked him up and carried him on his back so he could enjoy the sea like the others. He even taught him the basics in a swimming pool when they got home and Honey is so thankful for it as he discovered he actually really likes that.
Underfell Sans - He couldn't be a dinosaur kid Underground, but I can promise you that the second he got on the Surface, he fell madly in love with the giant reptiles to the point of squealing in joy every time he saw a toy representing a dinosaur he doesn't have. He has a very impressive collection of them now. Edge took him to a dinosaur museum for his birthday. After that, it became impossible to make Red shut up for two months. It's still his favorite place on Earth and he's going there at least once a month.
Underfell Papyrus - That time, completely drunk, when he confessed to Undyne that she was his best friend and that he didn't know what he'd do without her. Of course, the next morning, the face entirely red, he screamed at her she imagined the whole thing and to leave him alone, despite her recording of the scene on her phone. But yeah, he turns a lot softer once drunk and Undyne is so amused by this that she's going to torment him for two months.
Horrortale Sans - Since Toriel's eyesight became pretty terrible over the years, once a week, Oak comes to her place to read books to her. It's a nice routine they have from Underground after he got his skull smashed as reading was helping Oak's memory. He struggled on a lot of words and she helped him through his lecture. Now he's doing it only to entertain her, mainly because it hurts him so much to notice Toriel is aging. She became his whole world through the years and he's not sure he could bear losing her. So he cherishes any small moment he has with her.
Horrortale Papyrus - He's working as a volunteer in an old people retirement home and even if he's not supposed to, he loves taking the three old ladies he's taking care of to the movie theater or to the restaurant just so they can have fun for a few hours. They're all acting like they're on a super secret mission and it's always a nice time. He kidnapped them next Gyftmas to celebrate at his place because no one should be without a family at that time.
Swapfell Sans - He loves being massaged to the point he becomes completely limp in his S/O's arms. It's actually one of the very rare moments you'll see him fully relaxed and/or deep asleep, as Nox usually never lowers his guard. That pretty much means he feels very safe around you, which is literally a confession that he trusts you with his life. You're a lucky one.
Swapfell Papyrus - The first time Nox took him to an attraction park once they arrived on the Surface is where Rus actually called him brother again for the first time in almost twenty years. Now that's something they do every year, to remind each other that despite everything that happened, they're still here for each other. Rus can tell it's Nox's way to apologize for the childhood Rus never really had and he's actually glad. Even though it's also a good excuse to get his revenge once a year by dragging his brother to a fantom train just to watch him scream with terror the whole time, without being able to complain because Rus will guilt-trip him otherwise lmao.
Fellswap Gold Sans - He tried makeup for the first time on the Surface and now he has a little bit of an addiction on his hands. He can spend hours in the cosmetics shops, just trying everything to see what looks good on him. He's actually so known in these shops the seller usually keeps all the new things in a corner so he can try them when he comes.
Fellswap Gold Papyrus - Since he doesn't like to talk to the seller in the shops, he usually sends his brother or his S/O to buy things for him. But since they often mess up and don't pick what he wants, now he's coming along, just hiding behind them and silently pointing at the things he wants with puppy eyes. Now that he has a little more confidence he's just doing it with anything he wants and that is not planned. Just staring intensely so someone notices him and buys it lol. He's poor, please say yes :(
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mystii-gur0 · 1 month ago
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One thing I don't see addressed in Undertale fanworks a lot is Sans's eldritch madness.
Like I know we all love Sans because it's relatable that he's depressed and all, but he isn't depressed because he has MDD, he's depressed because he figured out the secrets of the universe and didn't like what those secrets had to tell him.
Keep in mind, Sans is not a naturally self aware character like Monika in DDLC, it's very VERY heavily implied that he has a fascination with science, specifically things like theoretical physics given the things he has in his room and the LITERAL SUPER COMPUTER IN HIS GARAGE. He is A LOT smarter than he appears at first glance. So no, Sans is not naturally self aware. He is in fact, a classic case of curiosity killed the cat.
I assume he probably built his computer around the same time Papyrus met Flowey since it was in the underground already when we fall in and we can't reset back far enough to give Sans the time to realize something was weird with time/deja vu whatever and build a whole super computer and THEN meet us outside the ruins.
Keep in mind, Sans remembers/has data for EVERY TIME someone plays Undertale. That's why he hates us even in the first true pacifist run (without having done a no-mercy run before hand) you do on your device. He knows that the player character has killed him and everyone he knows over and over again, just because they felt like it. (I've said it before and I'll say it again, the player is the true villian of Undertale, not Chara.) That's why he's depressed. Because he's slowly starting to realize that he lives in a fake world with a cruel god and there's nothing he can do about it.
Sans knows too much. He understood, even if for just a moment, the true scale of the world he lives in. Not that it's huge and infinite, but that he lives in a tiny, at most six hour long video game. And that made him crazy.
Undertale has a certain horror that is honestly some of the best I've ever seen because of how subtle it is. Like on the surface it's just another side scrolling video game. Dig a little deeper and it's a side scrolling videogame with morals. DIG EVEN DEEPER and it's a cosmic horror told from the perspective of what is essentially this universe's god, a cruel child who likes to squish bugs because it's fun, involving a time loop that will continue to go on as long as the game is played, trapping the characters of this world in their own personal hell that they don't even know about for the most part. We are the lovecraftian monster to these people.
I am autism. I am visible in your children, but if I can help it, I am invisible to you until it's too late....
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mimorobo · 16 days ago
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GAHDGSSG, Sorry for yapping so much (but idk I feel good talking abt TS with u-), but aaaaa I watched the ruthless and evacuation routes (I think that's what they're called) and aa. That's so sad, djgdjdgsgd. Poor harry and Larry !!! They didn't deserve this 😭
Also kinda sad we don't have more of Koffin-k, I hope we'll see him again in ruthless in the next updates (even if this probally won't happend)
But that's still so cool but so saaaaad, papyrus thinking cross bones is ded but he escaped ! And it's sans and not cross bones in evacuation route, that's awesomeeee !
But yeah, ruthless is so sad aaaaaaaaaaaaa
OMG PLEASE YAP AS MUCH AS YOU WANT!!! I mean I'M gonna start yapping??? I LOVE HEARING FROM OTHERS HOW COOL TS!US IS CUZ IT JUST IS!!!!
Ok so spoiler warning... Those routes (YES that's what they're called!! Cool names tbh) are INSANE! I think I was even more scared then during OG Undertale Geno?? The fight with Asgore, the RUINED knights!!? The whole of Ruined home!! It's so tragic?? It actually hurts, the way the monsters visibly hide and run away from you caught me so off guard... Also THAT ECHO FLOWER MESSAGE WHAT- 😭😭
Don't even get me started on the isles tho.... Ughhhghhgh..... The interactions with the characters, crossbones, Papyrus HARRY AND LARRY OH MY GOODNESS!!? It's wrong it's so so wrong, the comic relief guys should NEVER be in this kind of situation!?? Chara started to SCARE ME, and Crossbones going around trying to get the monsters away from us, WATCHING as they hid and how we hunted them all down... The way Muffets spiders tried to protect her...
I'm actually REALLY HOPING Koffin doesn't show up in Routhless anymore... I don't think it'd be... A very happy scene... Harry and Larry... Ohh boy... First time I ran away, I saw them go up and Flowey told me I had a choice and I RAN I was actually scared of what I would do... Got the sans fight instead... Which kind of leads me to believe that he... Sees it. Crossbones knows if u killed the Boogie men. Which is honestly so messed up.
AND ROUTHLESS ROUTE OMG!!? Another soul crushing echo flower message and a FREAKIN Chara nap/lore drop later and we fight the hero himself. My first uh, sans fangame fight if you will. (of course after friendly crossbones!) Craziest, best, funniest and most entertaining fight I've ever played!?? I'm not gonna lie I was suspicious with how predictable his story was?? But he HAD ME IN THE FIRST HALF!!! I still firmly believe in Sansturn tho, he was definitely telling the truth that time!! >:)
Seeing Papyrus like that afterwards was so sad... It was terrible and WRONG THE GUY DIDN'T DESERVE IT!!!? AND HE DOESN'T KNOW I WANTED TO TELL HIM- AND THEN THE WHOLE FREAKING ARMY COMES OUT OF NO WHERE AND WE'RE RUNNING FOR OUR LIVES WHILE LISTENING TO PEAK MUSIC!!!
It's amazing and awesome and crazy and fantastic- it's supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!!!! YES IM SO HAPPY YOU WATCHED IT!!! All the routes have something special in them!! It's all so well done I sometimes can't believe it's an actual real game?? :D
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sociopathicartist · 8 months ago
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Heya! I was wondering if u could do a headcanon of how Sans would act to being at disneyland with his S/O for the first time??
hey! thank you for requesting these, this was light-hearted and fun:) i’ve never been to disneyland before so forgive me if some of my stuff wasn’t correct, i’m going off of what i see online.
UT Sans Disneyland headcanons.
Being at Disneyland didn’t appeal much to Sans at first. Why? Standing in 2-hour lines for a ride and seeing characters from movies he didn’t get to watch growing up just wasn’t a very appealing idea to him, at the least, he could only see himself going if Papyrus wanted him to.
So when you suggested the idea on a random whim one night in bed, it took a bit of convincing to get him to go with you. It was a good portion of money that the both of you’d be spending, and he just wasn’t sure if the price would be worth it for the experience.
But eventually, your pleas got to him, and he finally gave in.
➭ road trip
Sans surprisingly did enjoy the drive down to disneyland.
He drove the whole way there for you. Since you took care of him in many other aspects of your domestic life, so when it came to things like cooking or driving, he always jumped the gun and made sure it wasn’t a task of yours.
He kept playing eye-spy the entire way down with you, stopping at the gas station for snacks (a lot more often than he should have), and jamming out to some tunes with you on the radio. He didn’t want you to be bored on the drive there, and his hand somehow kept sneaking its way over to your thigh and mindlessly rubbing up and down without any further motives while you two talked.
➭ hanging out at the hotel
You didn’t ask him, but you were pretty sure that Sans’ favorite part of the whole trip was getting to stay in one of the resort hotels. He always loved staying in the hotels when you went anywhere, which evened out since you also loved doing the same with him, but he was enthralled with the rooms. Why was there disneyland on the headboard of the bed? Why was the carpet fireworks? Why was this bed so damn comfortable? He probably could have sunk into the mattress and stayed there the whole time if you hadn’t pried him away from his all-famous napping sessions.
He also really liked just collapsing on the bed after being outside all day, and if you got within an arm-length radius of him you’d be pulled down onto the bed, trapped with him, and most likely not to be seen again until morning.
‘uh-oh, seems you’re stuck here with me now.’
‘Sansss, don’t do this again, I have to get showered off and changed.’
‘tough, my bones are locking up around you, can’t let you go, babe.’
➭ going around the park
Surprisingly despite his doubts, Sans actually had a lot of fun on the disney rides. He obviously wasn’t a big fan of the lines you both had to wait in and despite the looks you got from other people around you, he kept clinging to you like velcro the entire wait while you both talked to pass the time. You couldn’t blame him, even though he didn’t have skin and the heat didn’t really bother him, he didn’t like standing still for so long without doing anything.
He wasn’t too big of a fan of getting photos with some of the characters, (you could have sworn that he was a bit shy about it), but he did put on some silly mickey mouse ears and snag some fun pictures with you for whatever princesses or mascots you wanted to see. It was just a little bit harder for him to relate to wanting to see the characters that much since he didn’t watch these movies growing up in the underground, but he did love seeing you happy about it.
➭ snacks and food
This may be a huuuge shock, but Sans really liked the snacks and meals. Despite his ick for the expensive price tags, he was almost always dragging you to get snacks with him every time he saw something he could eat. These snacks were just so weird and a bit cool to him, food wasn't mickey mouse shaped or disney movie themed back at home.
‘baby, babe, try this.’
‘Sans, isn’t that your fourth one? Do you want to go get something else to munch on instead?’
‘ehehe, i know something else i’d like to munch on.’
He also really liked the themed dinners, it was pretty cool being able to see characters come out and walk around the tables while you both ate. Needless to say, this man was pretty satisfied with your meal options during your trip.
➭ souvenirs
Sans did find quite a few things he wanted to bring back for Papyrus and your other friends, mostly just cute little trinkets or figures. He did take fondly to some of the more sci-fi stuff they had there, and he couldn’t help but grab some stuff he liked that he swore he’d be able to find a place for back at home in your shared bedroom.
He wasn’t a big fan of the themed shirts, but with some convincing, you both got a matching pyjama set that you said you’d make him wear with you since he held up a doll of stitch and said that it looked identical to you.
‘babe, you can’t deny that the resemblance is uncanny.’
‘Sans, I love you, but it’s time to put the stitch doll down.’
‘i guess you’re right, humans aren’t blue anyway.’
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the-unrelated-theorist · 2 years ago
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Some Undertale gamer headcanons:
Someone said that Toriel would be the world Tetris champion, and I'm not sure why, but I agree with that. And not just Tetris, but bubble-poppers, match 3, marble-shooters, all of those kinds of games. She's the new Candy Crush mascot.
I've also seen people say sans would be into rhythm games, and... no. Why would you think he would be into something that takes that much effort? Seriously, come on. What sans is into is farming sim games. He's written dozens of online strategy guides for Stardew Valley, all of them under different pseudonyms.
Papyrus is into online multiplayers. All of them, any genre- Fortnite, Apex Legends, Fall Guys, Elder Scrolls Online, Runescape, you name it. He sucks at all of them, but none of his online friends is willing to tell him how bad he is because he's so darned innocent and nice. Nobody really wants him on their team because he'll always make them fail the mission, but he's so upbeat and uplifting that no one has the heart to tell him they don't want him.
Undyne loves Souls-like and dungeon crawlers, but she struggles with anything that requires stealth, she just doesn't. do. stealth. She says it's stupid to have to sneak up on enemies, she should just be able to barge in with guns or swords or spears blazing in any and all circumstances. Don't ever even suggest Metal Gear to her. Or Breath of the Wild- she rage-quit after the Yiga Clan Hideout quest (although it did leave her with the impression that bananas give you strength in battle, so she now always keeps a bunch of bananas on hand).
Blooky plays solitaire and Mah Jongg, and even those stress them out.
Maddie plays casino and slots games. On an unrelated note, she's always broke.
Mettaton is the rhythm games master. You will not change my mind on this.
Alphys is HEAVY into JRPG's. The more anime it looks, the more she loves it.
Asgore has no idea what a video game is. Well, ok, he has some idea, his kids both played games, but he never could figure them out. He thinks Sonic and Crash are both Mario characters and that Link is a girl- you get the idea. But he did used to play card and board games with Toriel. Especially chess (she totally owned his ass in every match). Ever since Toriel left, he can't bring himself to play chess. He plays checkers a lot, tho. He usually loses (he plays against himself).
Asriel and Chara were into action/adventure games. Asriel's favorite characters were Yoshi and Link, while Chara's favorites were Samus and Shadow the Hedgehog. What? No, I'm not projecting my favorite games onto the Dreemurr kids. What are you talking about?
Frisk has only ever played the hit indie game Undertale. About 500 times. Always Pacifist, they've never even tried a Geno run. They've been thinking about playing that Deltarune game, too, but they kinda wanna wait until the whole thing is released.
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candyheartedchy · 6 months ago
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Hi so you like sans, and I'm a massive Undertale fan ;) (it's been my special interest for years and my main self ship is in it as well!)
So I'm gonna write u some romantic headcanons
First off I don't think Sans is a big romantic type, he has low motivation for his relationships in game but he still does try to be a good brother, friend, etc, so I feel as though if he had a crush on someone he'd definitely want to try his best.
And by his best, I mean he'd show up with nothing but his usual outfit and like. A bow tie attached to the (zipped up for show,) part of his hoodie, or his neck.
I also think he'd be willing to try to woo you with corny puns, I think he'd think that making his partner laugh is the best part of his day, or to see them doing.
When he is attached to someone, he flaunts them like crazy.
Example - he constantly talks about how cool his brother is, and talks about how much he is proud and looks up to him. I feel like he'd do that a lot with a partner. Any chance he gets, he'd talk about how amazing you are, and how much he thinks you're the coolest person ever.
I think he'd enjoy the simple things in a romantic relationship more so than the showy stuff. He'd like to go for walks, play board games, relax and watch the stars in waterfall, or offer you to grillbys.
His partner would also be a very big victim to his pranks I'm afraid 😖 even more so than his brother or any friend, he'd want to prank or play with you constantly. Any chance he gets he'd play a little, harmless joke on you.
He'd love seeing you get a little frustrated, he'd find it funny, or cute. But, if you were too frustrated or stressed, he'd definitely tone it down.
I feel like hes the absolute best person to be around when sick. He'd set up the most cozy, relaxing blanket session on the couch and warm up a bowl of soup, and just sit with you on the couch and tell you silly stories about his brother, or talk about something that makes you happy to make you feel better when you're Ill.
I also think he'd love doing cute small things with you, like building snowmen (even though he wouldn't really make one, he'd mostly be admiring yours while drawing on a small pile of snow with a red marker.)
He canonically has an interest in the stars, astronomy, constellation, all that. He'd talk to you about it for hours if you got him too, but I feel like he'd be a little hesitant at first, since he's very often the type of guy to hesitate to talk about himself. Even papyrus complains about him not telling people stuff, so you'd be special if he talked to you about stuff he enjoyed.
He'd be the type of partner to remember the little details... Like your favorite snack in the underground, or your favorite color - and he'd get you small things. Not hard or large effort things, I highly doubt he'd go all out, but he'd still put a lot of effort in, in his own way. He memorized your favorite songs, or little cartoon characters, and gets you merch of it, or comes home with your favorite snack while you're napping or doing something with his little brother :)))
Hope these make u happy I may say more if I think of sum more thoughtssss tehehehehe
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ANON I WAS KICKING MY FEET THE WHOLE TIME READING THESE!! THESE HEADCANONS ARE PERFECT!! 💕💕💕
I also see him as being the type who’s very chill in a relationship and even though he probably wouldn’t be the flashy romantic type, he would still have his own subtle ways of showing his partner that he cares 🥺
And thank you so much for sharing these!!! ❤️
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voidandabyssal · 6 months ago
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Hihi! I was hoping to put in a reqest?
In this, may I ask for underrale bros, underfell, and horrortale? (Underswap to if yiu are willing to do them)
In this, they have been dating reader(Female or male) for about 5-6 years, and they have been comfortable. Reader decided on the 7th anniversary that they go somewhere romantic. (Like Rome, Pairs, etc.) And when it's the last night there, BOOM! The Propose. No warning, no message, nothing. They made sure it was perfect to. Lights, music, favorite foods, perfect.
How will they act? Will they reject the reader or accept?
Hehe this is cute!!
Also I only do four characters per request, so I kept it to that
Red (uf sans):
Funnily enough, red had been working up the nerve to propose to you the entire trip.
He had kept the box tucked away in his back pocket. Every time he reached for it, something seemed to go wrong
Well, either that, or he suddenly just lost the courage to pop the question.
So when you do propose, red breathes a sigh of relief. Though he is a little embarrassed that you’re the one doing it and not him.
Of course he also accepts. He sweeps you up into a bear hug and kisses you
He’s pretty shocked you managed to organise those whole thing without him noticing
Red isn’t going to admit it, but he is incredibly excited for all the wedding planning (ngl he is the bridezilla out of the two of you)
Edge (uf papyrus):
First of all, congratulations on managing to surprise him. Edge is very rarely caught off guard.
But seeing you down on one knee, ring in hand, his mind goes blank
For a moment he stands there not speaking, his mouth dropped open in shock before he quickly sweeps you off your feet
Not one to be stood up, Edge quickly grabs the ring he had bought for you, and had planned to propose with and slips it on your finger as he kisses you
This is truly going to be one of Edges favourite memories. He’ll insist on enjoying as much time together that night
Ignore him if he gets a little weepy! Ignore the tears! They aren’t real! In fact they are a figment of your imagination!!
biggest bridezilla out of these four. Edge is a menace to your poor wedding planner
Axe (ht sans):
Axe can be pretty clueless at times, a traumatic skull injury will do that to you. So he’s pretty much kept completely in the dark
You probably organised this to be somewhere familiar to him, maybe where you first met, Grillbys bar, even just your home
Somewhere safe and welcoming, where Axe doesn’t constantly feel watched or threatened
The moment you propose to Axe is the best moment of his life
Years of survival and suffering all worth it for this one moment
He pulls you in to kiss you. A loud rumbling purr emanates from his chest as he nuzzles at you.
Every time he looks down and spots the ring on his finger he’s enveloped with love. Axe always go searching for you right after for kisses and cuddles
Get ready for a few very affectionate and loving couple of weeks
Honestly you could have proposed to him with a ring pop and he would treat it like it was the biggest most sparkling diamond he had ever seen
Crooks (ht papyrus):
Crooks had a sneaking suspicion you were up to something
You had employed Axe to help you organise everything. Sadly Axe isn’t the hardest or most helpful worker around.
So some things got left lying in plain sight, including the engagement box of all things
Crooks decides to play dumb, let you sort out whatever you’re doing
The moment you propose is pure magic
Crooks bursts into tears, sobbing out a very loud “YES” as he lets you put the ring on his finger
Seeing the giant skeleton break down into tears, you feared he was going to reject you
So it was a relief to have him pull you into a kiss
You have to convince him to not haul you to the courthouse right then and there. Crooks would get married under any circumstances, even if you can’t afford a lavish wedding. Crooks is just so glad to spend the rest of his life with his soulmate
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o-sunny-day · 6 months ago
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Papyrus, and Death. ESSAY TIME!!!
I strongly believe that Papyrus is going to be revealed to be a young kid in Deltarune, due to the way Sans refers to leaving his brother alone with a “stranger” is “irresponsible”, and in the same breath, acknowledging that inviting a kid to his house to hang would be “weird” cause YEAH. an adult and a child vibing alone would be strange. (unless they’re family or something- BUT LIKE YOU GET ME.) But a kid and a kid?? Hell yeah.
But SOME people think the way Sans hypothetically talks about his adult brother is warranted. In Undertale, this wouldn't be too far fetched! Papyrus basically behaves like a child while being around adult age.
Now. Okay. I have a problem with that.
Papyrus. Yes, enjoys childish things, often denies the truth, and believes people when he shouldn't. But, this does not mean that his brother would have any reason to treat him like he has to keep an eye on him 247, if Papyrus being a small child is not the case.
Papyrus being ignorant about everything is a misconception that is built around the fact that he DOES seem to play dumb a lot, simply because he thinks stuff is normal when it's not. Such as him flying, Sans teleporting, not sleeping, general stuff along those lines.
But, what I want to focus on is the most often used “evidence” towards this misconception of his character. Is that he doesn’t know what death is, or that he doesn’t know when someone has died because of how “innocent” he is.
During the genocide route, peole often see Papyrus as being clueless to the danger he's putting himself in. That completely bastardizes his “fight”, and his entire character. Papyrus knows you can (and probably will) kill him, proven by how he talks about how scared shitless we was after you spare him. He knows he might die trying, but he is going to try and change your mind anyway, because he believes in you. He believes bad people can change. Hell, during the Pacifist route, he’s proven right!!! bad people can change… LOOK AT FLOWEY???
And, him asking you to bring back Undynes friends in one of the neutral run phone calls, isn't him thinking you didn’t kill them, it's more likely him asking you to RESET. We’ll get back to that later.
First I want to get this little thing out of the way. Papyrus not being told about his friend's death when he's forced to become leader. This translates into… not understanding death whatsoever?? It seeming OBVIOUS to anyone that they died and he is being lied to.
I feel like this is very much not a result of him being “childish”, just a result of his unwavering trust, which can be certainly admired in a lot of ways, but of course, used, too.
Even if people agree with me on that unwavering trust part, people still use that as ammunition for Sans lying to him being an often occurrence. Sans… right now- is being put in a REALLY bad spot. Telling his brother to his face that all his friends are dead isn't something I think anyone wants to do. So, him lying to Papyrus isn’t exactly proof that he thinks little of him in any way, it's more his desire to protect a person he loves from knowing a horrible truth, and having the opportunity to do so on a silver fukn platter.
And, on the topic of Sans lying to Papyrus…keeping resets away from Papyrus seems semi reasonable considering the whole King Papyrus thing-
But the things Papyrus says say otherwise to him being COMPLETELY ignorant. Like, in the neutral ending phone call about Undynes friends deaths.
How much the people who know about resets- KNOW about resets, is heavily debated. But the main thing is that Sans has undeniable proof that someone is fucking with the timeline, and you acting like youve done everything before, aint helping your case.
What I think would make more sense considering everything we've gone over about Papyrus, and Sans’ characters/ relationship…would be that Papyrus DOES know that time is repeating, and still enjoys life to the fullest (like sans) BUT also has BIG dreams of the future (unlike sans)
The future might not ever come, but he's like “nah it will, just you wait”
AND…HE'S TECHNICALLY PROVEN RIGHT ABOUT THAT TOO??????
ALL of Papyrus’ big ideals that seem foolish and ignorant, are up to you. Do you want to prove him right or wrong?
Are you going to kill, or spare him in the genocide run, showing him bad people can change?
Are you going to DO the pacifist route and STAY THERE, giving he and his friends a future?
Are you going to reset, and bring back Undynes friends?
Doesn't matter. Because some people prove him right, and that's all that matters. He believes it can happen, not that it will.
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skeletwinsauaskbox · 1 month ago
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I'm curious, how did you get into undertale/ your history with it? I love listening to how people found out abt undertale bc it just warms my heart hearing all the different stories
OOH BOY I GOT A QUESTION- ahem.
My first encounter with Undertale was actually because of my sister. She was really into indie video games at the time like Five Nights at Freddy's, Bendy and the Ink Machine, and Undertale. She watched a lot of Minecraft music videos of various fan songs, and I just so happened to be in the room with her when she was watching the one for Down To The Bone on the TV. I wasn't doing much, all I was doing was reading Looney Tunes stuff (that was my special interest at the time), but something about the Undertale ones caught my eye. I don't exactly remember how it happened, but I started looking into Undertale and got REALLY into it.
I remember it being a slow transition from Looney Tunes to Undertale. And what usually gets me into the media is the characters. And I think it's safe to say that Undertale... has amazing characters. The first character I got attached to, however, was Papyrus. I think it was because I related to him the most. In real life, I actually have a similar personality to Papyrus, with his outgoing, bubbly energy and desire for lots and lots of friends. He really stuck with me. And not to mention, he's definitely autistic-coded. Just look at that man and tell me he's neurotypical, you liar. I also loved how he was a twist on the whole "big ego" characters. Those kinds of characters are usually jerks, but I feel The Great Papyrus really lives up to the name he gave himself. He's kind, he's compassionate, he shARES THE SAME BELIEFS AS I DO. Yeah, he was my sole favourite for a while. He never stopped being my favourite.
As for how I got attached to Sans? Well, I was in my "discovery" phase of my Undertale hyperfixation/special interest and I stumbled onto TV Tropes, as any cartoon/media nerd does. So I was looking at the character sheets, the Funnies, the Tear Jerkers, the Nightmare Fuels... and then I discovered the Woobie page. If anyone reading this doesn't know what a Woobie is, they're a type of character you can't help but feel bad for because of the crap they have to go through, like Asriel or Hunter from The Owl House or almost every Steven Universe character. And Undertale is unsurprisingly full of Woobies. But then I got to Sans' section of the page and... I cried, man. I legitimately cried. I felt so bad for the poor thing. So yeah, that kickstarted my attachment to Sans as well.
And you know, when your favourite characters are the ones the fandom loves/talks about the most... you basically hit the jackpot when it comes to fan content of them. Before long, I was watching comic dub after comic dub, learning about the story and characters and watching play throughs and reading fics and comics and oh my god it was a blast! And it came to a head when I wanted to save up for my own copy of Undertale. I was going to save a lot of money and- I had a bad day at school which culminated in my parents buying me Undertale to cheer me up because they're kickbutt awesome. Thanks, parental units! So anyway, I completed the all-mercy route and got the golden ending three times, then I didn't pick up the game again for AGES because I wanted to give the characters a happy ending. But my obsession didn't go away. In fact, it only grew stronger. So with the game done, what can I do now?
TUMBLRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! AO3333333!!!!!!!! DEVIANTARRRRRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (don't worry, I avoided THAT side of Deviantart) I made my account on Tumblr called @justali-anne and the rest is history. Thanks for asking!
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maddieandangel · 9 months ago
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God I love Battle Against a True Hero. It's another one of those songs that are made out of parts of other songs (like Death by Glamour is), and just. Augh
(Disclaimer: I Do Not know the proper music terminology for stuff, apologies in advance dgsgsgf)
Battle Against a True Hero can be split into three main sections, beginning roughly at 0:00, 0:45, and 1:36 respectively.
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I'm also going to throw the rest of this under a cut, because the analysis ended up EXTREMELY long lmao
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Where the first section comes from is obvious, so I'm not going to spend too much time on it. It's the Power of NEO leitmotif, which is also present in, well, Power of "NEO" (Mettaton NEO's battle theme), as well as BIG SHOT (Spamton NEO's battle theme) in Deltarune. It seems to be the usual melody for someone powering up beyond their normal capabilities, basically.
That second section, however, is actually from An Ending. Specifically starting at around the 1:01 mark of An Ending, lasting for the rest of the song.
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(If you can't hear it, I actually first noticed it in Respite! Which, as a whole, is pretty much just another version of An Ending, but its version of the shared melody is closer to Battle Against a True Hero's than An Ending's is, being basically a slowed down version of it without any of An Ending's extra notes. It starts at around 0:36!)
Though actually, I'm gonna go on a bit of a tangent here and talk more about all of An Ending, because both of Undyne's battle themes are actually connected to it, and I'd argue that so is Undyne as a whole.
I believe it's already fairly well known that Ruins and the second half of Spear of Justice share a leitmotif. At a first glance, and just comparing those two songs, that doesn't make much sense! Undyne has nothing to do with the Ruins.
And that's because both songs are actually connected to An Ending, and are taking the leitmotif from that. The similarities between Ruins and Spear of Justice are the result of them branching off of the same root.
An Ending begins in the same way that Ruins does, just slower. Which I think is really neat!! We're coming full circle. The music that played in the first area in the game is now being played at the end of a Neutral route.
Thus, of course, the first minute or so of An Ending also bears a resemblance to the second part of Spear of Justice. And, additionally, An Ending itself can actually play in Undyne's fight too! Specifically, it plays after you kill her on the Neutral route, when her body has started to fall apart but she refuses to give in and keeps trying to fight you. Which I think might be the only time it plays outside of the Neutral Ending phone calls. So, that might be one reason Spear of Justice and An Ending share a melody; they both play in the same fight, so giving them some similarities might make the song transition smoother.
However! Undyne as a character is also very heavily connected to the various Neutral endings. I'd argue that she's actually the most important when it comes to determining the type of ending you get. I've seen people kind of argue before that that's Papyrus, but. No. I absolutely adore Paps, but the main thing his life or death changes is the manner in which the information in the phone call is presented to you. It either comes from someone who cares deeply about you as a friend basically unconditionally, who will always think positively of you no matter what you do, and thus will generally try to present things as positively as he can, no matter how bleak the situation actually is (though some of that also comes from him wanting to hide his sadness around Sans). Or, if Papyrus is dead, the information comes from someone who isn't as fond of you after everything you've done.
There's a hierarchy of sorts that decides who becomes the new leader of the Underground after Asgore, depending on who's alive. It goes Toriel > Undyne > Mettaton > Papyrus > Leaderless/Dog/Alphys. Undyne is the only character who can break this hierarchy, overthrowing Toriel, exiling her, and becoming the ruler herself, if you've caused her to hate humans enough by killing either Papyrus or just a lot of regular monsters from random encounters. Toriel can also be forced to step down by the general populace if Undyne has been killed, leaving the Underground leaderless.
And even among the endings where Toriel remains queen, the things Papyrus says to you change depending on the impression you've left on Undyne. Of course, if you've befriended her, you get the happy ending that will lead into True Pacifist after a reload! But if you didn't, then you get a separate ending. Or, if you did befriend her but then decided to betray her by killing someone in Hotland or later, then you'll get another ending, where Undyne hates you so much that even Papyrus doesn't want you to return to the Underground, out of concern for your safety (which is actually the only ending where he doesn't want you to come back!). Or, if you kill Mettaton, prompting Alphys to commit suicide, then she'll become utterly broken and depressed to the point that Papyrus is really concerned for her.
So, all in all, it feels fitting for even the music to show a connection between Undyne and the Neutral endings.
Extremely long tangent that probably should've been its own post over, dgdgsgsgf.
Battle Against a True Hero, of course, takes from a different section of An Ending than Spear of Justice or Ruins do. Respite (which plays at the end of the True Pacifist route, while everyone is on the cliff looking at the sunset) also does this, though I'm not sure if there's actually any sort of intended connection between Respite and Battle Against a True Hero. But I suppose you could say Undyne is fighting for respite, to put an end to your massacre of the Underground. And there's also something to be said about the contrast between the two wildly different routes.
But also, the fact that An Ending appears in Battle Against a True Hero at all. Ough. Undyne wants this to be an ending. She wants to kill you, to stop you from harming anyone more. In reality, though, this is only the midpoint of the run. Unless you decide to give up, you aren't anywhere near your ending yet. Perhaps that's why this section of Battle Against a True Hero is slightly different from An Ending, with it having certain notes omitted (aside from the fact that, with the faster pace, the smaller amount of notes probably sounds and flows better). It's An Ending, but not quite. Not for you. Not yet.
But you know who this is an ending for? Undyne.
Even in timelines where she succeeds in killing you, Undyne is as good as dead. She's already supposed to be dead at this point, and only came back through sheer Determination. But monster bodies can't handle such large amounts of Determination, and Undyne is no exception. Her Undying form is only temporary, and while it will last her long enough to fight you, she's going to die soon after, be it by your hand or by the inevitable destabilization of her form. This is Undyne's end, but she's going to do everything in her power to make sure she takes you down with her.
Additionally, the fact that this section isn't exactly the same as An Ending could be applied to Undyne herself as well. It is her ending, but not quite. Not yet. She's not ready to die, to just let you continue your rampage uninterrupted. She refuses to give in. In her Neutral route death, Undyne only really has one dangerous attack once you "kill" her. Thus, the actual, unchanged An Ending plays, because it is her end, and you will continue to survive, and there's nothing she can do about it. But here, in her Undying form, she at least has a Very Real chance of killing you and ensuring that the two of you die together. So while a version of An Ending plays, signalling her inevitable end, it's not quite the same, because she still has the power to end you too.
Finally, the last part might be a bit more of a stretch, but it resembles part of Alphys' theme (just called "Alphys")! Specifically at around 0:31. It's like Battle Against a True Hero took that section of Alphys' theme and expanded on it more.
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Which. Augh! My heart. Undyne's doing all this, fighting so hard to stop you, in order to protect Alphys and everyone else living in Hotland and the capital (and even the humans beyond the Barrier, at this point). She cares So Much about everyone that Alphys even appears in her battle theme. They're all her fuel to keep fighting. She won't survive this battle, which she always knew could happen in her field of work and is why she never confessed her feelings to Alphys, but if she can at least save everyone else from meeting the same fate as those from Waterfall and before, then that'll be enough. This section represents the people she's fighting for.
And, as Undyne says once you land the killing blow on her, Alphys herself is watching the fight. She's working in the background, where you can't reach her, preparing an evacuation for everyone left in the Underground.
Even the order of the parts of Battle Against a True Hero creates a story of what Undyne's thoughts might be as the fight progresses.
It starts out with the Power of NEO leitmotif. Undyne's renewed energy and increased strength is on full display, ready to destroy you. The song starts out softer at first, as Undyne warms up, before both it and her attacks ramp up as more instruments are added and her power is further unleashed. The wind howls in the background.
Then, the song progresses into the An Ending section, though Power of NEO can still be heard as well. Undyne wants this fight to be the end of you and your murderous spree. This is supposed to be your ending. But as she continues to fight, perhaps she begins to think about how it's going to be an ending for her, too. Regardless of the outcome of the battle, she's not going to come out of it alive. Maybe she's even begun to feel the effects of her excess Determination already, but hides it.
And so she begins to think about Alphys, and while her attacks don't let up, the music softens. She thinks about Alphys. And she thinks about Asgore. And she thinks about everyone else in Hotland and beyond. And she knows she's never going to see them again. Did she even get the chance to say goodbye? Probably not. She probably wouldn't have wanted to entertain the thought of her losing outside of practicalities and backup plans; not out of a fear of death, but for others' sakes. Keep people's hopes up, promise them that she'll be fine.
But rather than let these thoughts break her down, they only serve to make her stronger. She's reminded of who she's fighting to protect, and the music ramps back up in accordance with that. She's the Hero of the Underground, and though her death is certain, she'll be damned if she's not going down without a fight. She's going to ensure that she's the last victim you ever kill, by taking you down with her.
It's SUCH a good song.
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jewbeloved · 10 months ago
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Hello! I saw you wrote headcanons for a sans S/O, and I must say, they were really good! Could you do the main 4 + Damien (if you write for him, otherwise maybe Clyde) and Craig with a male Papyrus S/O? (And yes, reader has the same powers as Papyrus)
Team Stan + Damien with a papyrus! s/o🧡🧡🧡
Warnings: Chaos, this is papyrus we're talking about :)
Gender: Male
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💙 Stan Marsh 🪑
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You made him spaghetti? How nice of you- wait why does it taste funny? (Name) what did you put in the spaghetti?
Okayyyy you're not much of a good chef....but that doesn't mean he doesn't like listening to you rambling about stuff that you're determined to achieve.
Stan loves you. But you're tiring this poor boy out with all of the puzzles you set up for him to complete. Why are you making him do puzzles in the first place. 😵‍💫
Let him rest for a bit (Name).
You let him rest for about 6 minutes before you bust into his room completely scaring him to death with another crazy idea you just came up with and you want him to help you with it.
How in the world do you have so much energy?! It's only been 9 hours! And did you just make a bunch of bones appear out of the ground!?! 💙💙💙💙💙
💚 Kyle Broflovski 🍧
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What? what is this (Name)?
You have layed out a color changing floor puzzle thing? Kyle is merely confused at your choices of making puzzles.
You made him some spaghetti and you claimed that you never eaten it before. Uhm....why do you always make him spaghetti if you never eat it before?? But you just tell Kyle that everyone just likes it.
Kyle would think your slightly weird behavior is a part of your charm so he doesn't mind it that much. But he won't deny that he will get a little bit annoyed with the puzzles.
He's studying in his room and you burst into his room wearing...a 'cool dude' outfit? You giggled at his flabbergasted reaction and began telling him about your silly adventures you had recently today before moonwalking out of the room.
(Name) you're killing this dude. Please chill out with your antics. 😭
He'll be putting his study books away until a giant bone opens his door while penetrating through it. Kyle is now standing in complete shock with no words. 💚💚💚💚💚
❤️ Eric Cartman 🍔
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You invited him over to your house because you wanted him to try some spaghetti that you made. Cartman didn't think you'd be the type to cook but he'll try your spaghetti and see if it's good.
Ehmm, he rates your spaghetti 5/10. The spaghetti isn't bad but he thinks it could use some more work (Or maybe he's just a picky eater).
Nonetheless you didn't mind him criticizing your cooking skills as you told him that everyone seems to like spaghetti and that's why you made it for him.
I can see him using your puzzles for his plans to prank somebody by sabotaging it. He finds your puzzles ridiculous yet clever and well made though.
He doesn't directly mind or care about your powers.
He finds the silly outfits you wear funny and he suggests you both wear the same outfits and annoy Kyle. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
🧡 Kenny Mccormick 🍥
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Kenny is a great listener so if you have any stories or anything to tell him that happened recently he'll sit down and listen to you ramble.
If you cook him spaghetti this boy won't care one single bit how it tastes or how it looks. He'll gobble the whole thing up and gracefully thank you for cooking him food to eat.
He doesn't mind your powers too- ah! be careful with that giant bone- and Kenny's dead....Not to worry, Kenny will forgive you even if you apologize to him a thousand times.
He will also play along with the puzzles you made for him, but he might also get killed in the middle of it if you had set up the puzzle that goes across the street or anywhere else for that matter.
He might also wear one of your outfits when you're not looking (He finds them funny and cute at the same time.
🖤 Damien Thorn 💥
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He found you annoying at first because of how you behaved, but he later on grew to tolerate you.....more like he allowed himself to get wrapped up in your shenanigans.
Whatever puzzles you made, he tried them out since he was curious about them. Is this what humans do for fun? He'll be asking a bunch of questions midway through the puzzles.
He finds your powers cool! He likes that he is not the only being in south park that has an abnormal ability that singles them out from the rest of the residents.
He doesn't understand how your powers work exactly but he might be able to help you control it if you're having any problems.
You've made him 5 spaghetti plates....he starts to wonder if spaghetti is the only thing you can make until you tell him that you only cook it because you heard that everyone likes spaghetti. He lets out a sign to that.
He doesn't mind it though as he enjoys the food you made for him. 🖤🖤🖤🖤🔥
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That's bontastic🦴
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