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caleo is overhated
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i have no shame
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Okay WHY ARE ALL THE EPIC VOICES SO FUCKING HOT
LIKE I UNDERSTAND LEO NOW
AND LEMME MARRY ATHENA PLS
SO FUCKING HOT
AND TELEMACHUS MY BBG
#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#kate has hera i get athena#telemachus epic the musical#calypso epic the musical#leo valdez#caleo#i love caleo
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piper: what’s a cute little thing that belongs to your partner and whenever you see it, it just reminds you that they’re yours
will, softly smiling: nico’s playing cards
nico: *trying not to blush*
leo: calypso’s threads. it comforts me to see them sitting on my table
calypso: *looking at him lovingly*
hazel, with heart eyes: frank’s bow. i always think of how handsome he looks when he shoots it
frank: *giving her heart eyes*
percy: annabeth’s fucking mile-long blonde hairs that i pull out of my buttcrack in the shower
annabeth: *evil cackling across the room*
#can you tell which ones have been together the longest?#they’re basically a married couple#also if you don’t know what i’m talking about with the hair#you must not have long hair or be with someone with long hair…#i love the thought of the other couples being so romantic and sweet and percabeth just being menaces#i love them lol#percy jackson#annabeth chase#percabeth#piper mclean#will solace#nico di angelo#solangelo#frank zhang#hazel levesque#frazel#leo valdez#calypso#caleo#pjo#heroes of olympus#percy jackson and the olympians#rick riordan#riordanverse#incorrect quotes#pjo incorrect quotes
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Friendly reminder that Jason spent months looking for Leo and only stopped when Chiron forced him to enroll in school.
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#pjo#percy jackson#pjo hoo toa#percy jackon and the olympians#heroes of olympus#pjo fandom#jason grace#this is what I mean about him definitely preferring the Greek side#the Roman’s turned him into a child soldier#the Greeks let him be a kid and make actual friends#the Greeks had his sister#the Roman’s do have Reyna tho-#rip jason grace#leo valdez#also like#valgrace has a special place in my heart#valgrace#can you tell I love Jason grace#friendly reminder#<33#leo hoo#jason hoo#pjo toa hoo#pjo hoo toa tsats#toa#ricky when i catch you ricky#rick riordan#riordanverse#riordan universe#fuck you rick for making caleo a thing when valgrace was right there
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I had a dream that there was a Heroes of Olympus TV show and they made Valgrace canon
#Valgrace#Jason Grace#Leo Valdez#riordanverse#Heroes of Olympus#HoO#pjo hoo toa#pjo#Percy Jackson and the Olympus#Please gods if there’s ever a hoo tv show either make Valgrace canon#Or make Leo have no love interest at all#I don’t like caleo#(Read: hate)
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#percy jackson#pjo hoo toa#heroes of olympus#pjo fandom#leo valdez#percy jackon and the olympians#i love this series so much#pjo leo#jason grace my beloved#pjo jason#anti caleo#valgrace 4 ever#valgrace#i love leo valdez
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i hate how this fandom treats calypso. like we know why percy forgot about his promise, we know all of this but she doesn’t. she’s trapped in a island with no sense of time and when a hero she loves promised her he would free her, all she knows is that he didn’t when she was naive enough to believe he would. and about the curse, girls are allowed to have nasty cruel thoughts and the way some people expected percy to act around her is really telling to how they see his character.
#calypso#pjo calypso#percy jackson#percy jackon and the olympians#pro calypso#i don’t give a fuck#i’m still about to read the trails of apollo#but wow the girl who was trapped in a island watching people leave her who had no time to heal over and over is bad girlfriend#who would have thought#everyone is a feminist until a girl isn’t ever forgiving#fight me#but i love#caleo#they aren’t good for each other ???#$#bitch they are traumatized and not even 20 yet#percy jackson and the olympians#leo valdez#the curse#the calypso problem#she’s my roman empire
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Thought about it recently and realized that i just.
Have never liked Caleo
I get the appeal, I understand it, but I never really liked their chemistry
Valgrace is better tbh
#just thoughts#NO HATE TO YOU CALEO SHIPPERS I LOVE AND RESPECT YOU#i do really appreciate this fandoms willingness to ship and let ship#pjo#percy jackson#leo valdez#jason grace#calypso pjo#percy jackon and the olympians#snare talks#valgrace
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I feel like is super easy to just NOT be hateful on ship posts
like if you come across a video or post or whatever about a ship that you don't like PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST SCROLL
there is no need to activate seek out content of something that you don't like just so you can comment and whine about how you don't like it
you can make a separate post on your own goddam account but don't start hating on someone and being rude to someone you don't know for a freaking ship??
I don't like caleo that's pretty obvious I make posts about it whatever but what I don't do is search for content about the ship
I have the ship tag blocked, if I see a post that is about liking the ship I scroll
So please just learn how to scroll or use the block button
especially if the ship isn't even problematic
like personally jercy isn't my cup of tea theres nothing wrong with the ship in fact it's pretty cute and the shippers are really nice I just don't see it as romantic
so I don't freaking comment on posts about jercy because I'm not going to be an asshole
That was the daily rant with yours truly thank you for reading
#I just wanna hold hands with everybody and frolic around#And throw sand at the people I don't like#The people I don't like are problematic and rude people#I don't like rude people#valgrace#leo valdez#jason grace#trials of apollo#heros of olympus#rick riordan#percy jackson#Caleo#jercy#no seriously tho jercy shippers are so nice I love you all sm#the block button is free#for the people who seem to be allergic to joy magic and fun
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Just something I need to get off my chest
I really think that series like Harry Potter and Percy Jackson, fantasy novels with high stakes focused plots addressed to children, should be romance free. They would be so much better without any romance in it.
I mean, as a young reader, I was just there for the action, the magic, the adventure, the plot twists, the plot itself, the characters as individuals, some of their friendships... that kind of stuff in general. I didn't give a sh*t about romance, not even when I grew up and became a teenager. And those are books meant for children and younger readers, right? So, I'm going to share the opinion I had when I was younger (the one I have now would be much harsher, not to mention much longer).
Now, all the romance in HP bored me to death; most of it didn't even make sense. I just wanted to know Voldemort's back story and then proceed to see how they were going to destroy the horcruxes, you know? And yes, I get it, they're teens at that point and it's realistic they have love interests, etc etc etc, except it felt like that author (*insert disgusted emoticon here*) only chose those couples to make all the characters related by the end of the series and none amongst the relationships was really developed to make any sense or look good. Take Hermione and Ron. They'd have zero chances to work irl. Be honest. But mostly, they're lame, boring, casual, rushed pairings with no development whatsoever (thankfully, I dare to add), usually involving characters who are not compatible at all/in the long run.
This is about the canon, but moving on to the fanon ships (Dramione/Drarry), I don't think that that author would have been able to write enemies to lovers properly (I'd add the plus: involving an LGBTQ+ couple, for the Drarry). The sole idea of any of it gives me the ick. Like no. Thanks, but no thanks.
About the PJ ships, on the other hand... they are a mess. None of them is even remotely good. They're all just a total mess, featuring the following problems:
Weird/creepy age gaps
Toxic behaviour
Emotional abuse
Physical abuse
Disrespectful behaviour
Judgemental behaviour
Disregard/dimishment of other characters' trauma
Isolation of characters from other characters they care about/may meet and befriend
Pairings of characters who are not exactly compatible/would never work in long term relationships
Glossing over problematic stuff, which is a big problem considering the audience the books are aimed at
Also, when they get together, some of them are still KIDS. KIDS!
(Fanon ships also fall under some of these points)
In both cases, it's not even like they are necessary to the plot. The funny thing here is that these stories would flow much better without those parts. What's the point of forcing romance into a story where so much is already going on, which leaves little to no space to develop things properly, and in which such romance has actually no purpose?
No romance at all is better than sloppily executed romance. And not every story needs romance in it to be compelling. Especially if they're meant for kids and are full of magic, action and adventure.
A better exploration of the characters and their trauma would have been much more interesting for me to read as kid who became a teenager while the series were coming out, instead of reading cheap romance while the characters were, well, you know, fighting wars and dealing with tons of sh*t.
#harry potter#percy jackson#rr crit#anti jkr#anti percabeth#anti jiper#anti frazel#anti caleo#anti romione#anti solangelo#anti hinny#i haven't read toa and tsats yet but why should I think that the ships in there are any different#I love both series but I think they would have been better without romance in it yeah
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absolutely crazy to me how through the books, leo's pov is always talking about how he feels left out of the 7, and he doesn't have any friends or family that isnt the 7 so. hes literally sad about the fact that hes never truly had anyone love him, since his mom died. he juggled foster homes and ran away from things and even now that he HAS friends and a prophecized future and everything? "to storm or fire the world must fall", he STILL feels like the least important member of the group. the 7th wheel. the one nobody is actually friends with. hes so incredibly used to feeling unloved. AND THEN RICK GIVES HIM A GIRLFRIEND. theres so much wrong with calypso but first of all it was also just shitty to give him a romantic interest before letting him heal his friendships and mental health. AND. CALYPSO ONLY LOVES HIM BECAUSE SHES CURSED TO FALL IN LOVE WITH EVERYONE WHO LANDS ON HER ISLAND. SHE ONLY LOVES LEO BECAUSE SHE IS PHYSICALLY BEING FORCED TO AND SHE ISNT EVEN NICE TO HIM. AND HE IS OKAY WITH THIS????
#no because he was so desperate to feel loved#so he fell in love with the first person who he knew loved him too#even though she was literally forced to#i hate caleo#anti caleo#leo valdez#calypso#pjo hoo toa#rick riordan#he certainly made a DECISION there...#ive been ranting to my partner abt this#the seven pjo#uhm anyways#stan jason grace for clear skin#jason and leo couldve been so much healthier and helped mend leos friendship and love trauma#yknow instead of making it worse#calypso is NOT leos happy ending
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anyways chat if Caleo is pedophelia despite the fact that Calypso has the mind+body of a teenager, and that time works differently on Ogygia shouldn't you hate Solangelo for the same reason? Nico didn't die. he's chronologically like 93 or something! but what's the solangelo fans reasoning? "he has the mind and body of a teenager, and time works differently in the lotus casino!" tl;dr some of you are hypocrites
#let mars speak#pjo hoo toa#pjo#hoo#heroes of olympus#percy jackon and the olympians#calypso#calypso pjo#pjo calypso#nico di angelo#will solace#leo valdez#caleo#I don't have anything against solangelo#I love it!#but don't you think hating one ship for a reason#and then excusing a different ship even though it has the same problem#is kinda stupid?#just my 2 cents
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Caleo is a very interesting topic, and one I’ve avoided discussing for a while due to the discourse surrounding it; however, I feel like I finally found the right way to word my thoughts, so damn it all lol
I don’t think Caleo was ever meant to last. Despite the fact I highly doubt Rick ever intended for it to be the case, I’ve always interpreted it as comphet for both Leo and Calypso - whether that be due to either of them falling on the aroace spectrum or preferring the opposite gender, i think it’s open to interpretation.
Leo has always struggled with feeling unwanted, and his view on familial and romantic relationships was skewed by the instability and abuse he faced consistently throughout childhood. He’s always had the innate desire to feel loved, to be wanted by someone. Leo’s role as the “seventh wheel” cemented the belief that all of this could be solved by a romantic relationship. If he could be Calypso’s hero, would he finally feel fulfilled? Would all of his insecurities disappear if he earned her love and affection?
While most people argue that this was the solution Rick was proposing, it’s very clear in TOA that this is not the case. Leo didn’t get his happy ending with Calypso - rather, he found it with Emmie and Jo at the Waystation. Calypso is noticeably absent at the end for a reason.
Calypso as a character is a can of worms, but I feel like she believed she owed Leo this relationship (not that Leo would EVER demand a relationship, I feel like this is an inner-complex she’s facing unbeknownst to him.) Because he did what others could not, she would have to learn to love him out of obligation. Obviously this didn’t happen. While she doesn’t outright hate him (Calypso has very mixed feeling about Leo, putting it lightly), I think the inappropriate aspects of the relationship are obvious even to her.
Rick has the logic of “because this character is physically a minor, it negates the fact that they’ve been on this planet for 6 millennia.” He does this with with Apollo (albeit he’s been cognitively nerfed by Zeus, but I still don’t think that’s a valid excuse) so it’s not just Calypso who’s showing this behavior. It was a very weird writing decision that was made regarding immortal dating ethics, however the consequences of the age gap are still apparent. She loathes Leo’s immaturity because it’s a glaringly obvious symptom of him being a child, while she was an immortal who is at a completely different stage in life from him.
At the end of TOA, she’s distanced herself from Leo by going to band camp. Calypso is giving Leo the space to acclimate to a family that will offer him the love she can’t provide him, and allowing herself to find out who she is beyond Ogygia. While Leo frames this as a temporary break, I don’t foresee them actually maintaining a relationship in the future.
I’m an aromantic Leo truther, so I think Leo’s actual happy ending is finding a home at the Waystation and coming to terms with the fact he doesn’t need a girl to complete him. He’s always been enough. While we could have had this at the end of HOO, I think Leo finally getting what he thought he wanted only for it to not be the case as a very interesting way of going about it. Now he can support other demigods who have been mistreated by the system and give them the life he had always wanted.
#heroes of olympus#hoo#trials of apollo#toa#leo valdez#calypso pjo#rr crit#anti caleo#if anything i view this as more as a canon event than an actual ship#i don’t love it or hate it - it just kind of is#i wish calypso was handled better narratively#for that reason im tagging this critically#again im apathetic to this ship but i don’t want this post appearing where it’s not wanted#i was scared to post this as if me saying ‘caleo is meh’ is a groundbreaking take#i think i’ve only seen two people in the wild who have this as their otp 😭😭😭
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What I have not yet seen in discussion of Leo and Calypso together is the simple fact that they are basically the only people who really need each other. There was no one for millennia to long or stay for Calypso, and Leo could understand that loneliness better than anyone else. Simply put, all the previous heroes on Ogygia had someone to come back to, so Calypso in their lives was merely a temporary inconvenience. And Leo knows way too much about being an inconvenience to others. Their shared trauma of abandonment is what brought them together in the end.
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Friendly reminder that Blitzstone isn’t canon but Caleo is.
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#pjo#percy jackson#pjo hoo toa#heroes of olympus#percy jackon and the olympians#calypso pjo#pjo leo valdez#i hate it here#I hate caleo#fuck caleo#all my homies hate caleo#leo valdez pjo#leo valdez#magnus chase series#magnus chase and the gods of asgard#blitz and hearth are perfect#blitzen#hearthstone#blitzstone#I love them#the gay dads#anti caleo#anti calypso#all my homies hate calypso smh#pjo fandom#riordan universe#rick i swear its on sight
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