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oddyseye · 1 day ago
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I agree with your position on Calypso being childlike in Epic is detrimental to male victims of sexual assault, but it *is* within Homer's original work that the suitors had malicious thoughts about Penelope in a similar way. He didn't focus on it so explicitly like Jorge is going to do in Epic, but there are several times when Penelope mentions how much of a threat they are to 'us', and an additional moment where the suitors *do* deliberately express desire to have sex with her, and wait until she has left the room to speak in such a manner. From Wilson's translation:
She [Penelope] went back to her room, and took her son's uneasy words to heart. She went upstairs, along with both her slaves, and wept there for her dear Odysseus, until Athena gave her eyes sweet sleep.
Throughout the shadowy hall the suitors clamored, praying to lie beside her in her bed. Telemachus inhaled, then started speaking.
"You suitors, you are taking this too far. Let us enjoy the feast in peace. It is a lovely thing to listen to a bard, especially with one with such a godlike voice."
From Fagles' translation:
Astonished, she withdrew to her own room. She took to heart the clear good sense in what her son had said. Climbing up the loft chamber with her women, she fell to weeping for Odysseus, her beloved husband, till watchful Athena sealed her eyes with welcome sleep.
But the suitors broke into uproar through the shadowed halls, all of them lifting prayers to lie beside her, share her bed, until discreet Telemachus took command: "You suitors who plague my mother, you, you insolent, overweening... for this evening let us dine and take our pleasure, no more shouting now. What a fine thing it is to listen to such a bard as we have here --- the man sings like a god."
I do wish that Jorge had left in that aspect of Odysseus' time trapped with Calypso intact, as well as his time with Circe. The musical suffers without it because this then does seem to be like a sensationalism thing. Anyway, I have enjoyed reading your breakdowns so far! I hope to see more with the next saga coming out in a few days. Wishing you all the best.
Okay, first off, thank you for being respectful, unlike half the brain-dead trolls who can’t read. I appreciate that you came with receipts, and you know what? That’s rare around these streets, so kudos for that. Seriously. You clearly care about the material, and that deserves respect. But now, let me roll up my sleeves because I do have some things to say.
Here’s Wilson’s translation again, from the same scene you mentioned:
“The suitors made a din throughout the shadowy halls, each man praying to lie beside her in her bed.”
Praying. Highlight it. Circle it in red. These losers were not planning anything; they were fantasizing. Not plotting, not scheming, not planning some coordinated assault. Praying. These morons are fantasizing about her like horny teenagers, not predators with an actual plan. Because that is what they are. Youth.
Even Fagles, who’s more dramatic in his language, sticks to the same tone:
“The suitors broke into uproar through the shadowed halls, all of them lifting prayers to lie beside her, share her bed…”
Lifting prayers. Again, they’re fantasizing, not attacking. These guys are scum, but they’re not warriors. They’re lazy, spineless leeches who drink Odysseus’ wine and stuff their faces with his food while posturing like kings.
The original line goes as follows:
"οἱ δ᾽ εὐχόμενοι πάντες ἐπ᾽ ἀλλήλοισι λέγοντο κοιμηθεῖν."
Translated literally, it says:
“And they, all praying, said among themselves to lie with her.”
Let’s focus on εὐχόμενοι (euchomenoi), the main verb here. It’s crucial because it doesn’t mean “plotting” or “planning.” It means praying, wishing, or hoping — a nonviolent, internal desire directed toward the gods. These guys weren’t conspiring to assault Penelope. They were sitting around fantasizing and asking divine forces to grant them her love (or, more likely, her submission).
Now, let’s look at κοιμηθεῖν (koimethein), which translates to “to sleep”. It is...not even sexual. It is literally a normal verb, “to sleep.” Homer had plenty of vocabulary to describe acts of physical aggression if that’s what he wanted to imply. Words like βιάζω (biazō, meaning “to force”) or ἁρπάζω (harpazō, meaning “to seize”) are all over the Iliad and Odyssey. If the suitors were intending rape, Homer would’ve used more explicit language. He didn’t. Let me contrast this with an actual moment in the Odyssey where sexual violence is implied, when he recalls his time on the island of Calypso:
“ἔνθα μὲν ἀμφ᾽ ἀνάγκῃ, τῇ δὲ θεὰ ἐρῶσά μιν ἔσχε.” (“There he stayed out of necessity, for the goddess, in her love, held him there.”)
Notice the two parts here. Odysseus stayed out of necessity, not because he wanted to. And why was he there? Because Calypso held him. That’s not love. That’s entrapment. Homer makes it clear that Odysseus had no agency in this situation — he was kept there against his will.
Homer uses the same word when Odysseus describes his time with Circe:
“ἀλλ᾽ ἔμεν᾽ ἐν σπέσσι λαῶν ἀνάγκῃ.” (“But I stayed in her halls by necessity.”)
The word ἀνάγκῃ is usually translated to “necessity,” but its meaning runs so much deeper. It implies force, constraint, distress, even violence. This isn’t a neutral word, and it sure as hell isn’t romantic.
When the gods finally intervene in the situation with Calypso, Hermes doesn’t mince words:
“ἀλλ᾽ ἤτοι δὴ νῦν οὔ τοι θέμις ἐστὶν ἄνακτα θνητὸν ἀνδρῶν ἐρύκειν.” (“It is not lawful for you to keep a mortal man here.”)
The gods themselves have to tell Calypso to let him go because she won’t do it willingly. That’s not the behavior of a tragic lover — it’s the behavior of someone who refuses to relinquish control.
Even when she finally agrees to release Odysseus, she doesn’t make it easy for him. She says:
“καὶ τὸν ἔασα πονεύμενον οἴκαδε νοστῆσαι.” (“I will allow him, suffering, to return home.”)
Notice that word — πονεύμενον (poneumenon), meaning “suffering” or “toiling.” She’s not helping him. She’s forcing him to work for his freedom, as if she’s making him earn the right to escape. And what does she give him to leave? Not a ship, not safe passage — she hands him an axe and tells him to build his own raft. But anyway, back to the topic at hand. They suitors, yes, they are lusting after Penelope, but there’s no plan of attack here. They’re scum, but they’re cowardly scum. They want Penelope to hand herself over to them, not because they’re forcing her physically, but because they think they can break her spirit. The whole point of the suitors is that they’re lecherous freeloaders who don’t actually have the guts to do anything.
And let’s talk about context. Penelope is a queen. She’s surrounded by her maids, she has her son in the house, and she’s got the weight of Odysseus’ legacy protecting her. The suitors know they can’t just drag her off to a bedroom without consequences. They’re playing a long game of manipulation and coercion, trying to wear her down until she chooses one of them. That’s why they’re so frustrated by her weaving trick — because she’s outsmarting them at their own game.
If Homer had wanted to imply a real physical threat, he would’ve. This is the same guy who wrote gory, brutal battle scenes and didn’t shy away from dark topics. He wasn’t subtle. If the suitors were planning to physically assault Penelope, we would know. Instead, what we get is a bunch of entitled men sitting around, praying to get lucky.
Now, does this mean the suitors aren’t a threat? Of course not. Their presence is invasive, degrading, and psychologically abusive. Penelope has to endure their constant disrespect and their lewd comments, and that’s horrifying in its own way. But we have to call it what it is: harassment and coercion, not rape.
And I know some people will argue that it’s “just a retelling” and that Jorge has the right to make changes. Sure, he does. But if you’re going to adapt one of the most iconic texts in Western literature, you have a responsibility to understand what you’re working with. You can’t just slap modern trauma narratives onto these characters without considering the implications.
So yeah, I disagree with you. The suitors weren’t planning to rape Penelope. That’s not what Homer wrote, and it’s not what the story is about. The fact that so many people jump to that conclusion says more about our culture than it does about the text.
That said, I do appreciate your thoughtfulness and your willingness to engage in this discussion. It’s rare to see someone actually care about the nuances of the Odyssey, even if we don’t agree. Thanks for that.
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awnrii · 5 months ago
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man i sure hope nobody dies at dawn
titular character 'ulysses', from the mechanisms album 'ulysses dies at dawn':
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meteor752 · 2 months ago
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Epic the musical side story where Hades and Persephone get really invested in the story during The underworld saga, sorta small talk about the strange man for the next couple of years, and then freak the fuck out in the audience during god games when they find out not only is the guy still alive, he’s managed to piss off like half the pantheon
Just
“Hey babe?”
“Yeah Perse?”
“There’s like, a bunch of mortals here”
“Mortals? What, how?”
“Idk, they’re like, on some ship”
“Huh. Should I call Thanatos, have him take care of it, or should we just wait it out”
“Call Thanatos, best to rid the garden of any pests before they manage to kill your flowers”
“Pfft, alright. I’ll be right back”
“Okay- wait. A bunch of the dead are singing to him”
“What?”
“Yeah like a bunch. Who are they?”
“Uhh, most of them drowned, a few killed by a cyclops. One broke his neck?”
“They’re singing about a cyclops, about how he let one live or something”
“Probably one of Poseidons. Should I still call Thanatos?”
“No wait, I wanna see where this goes.”
“Alright.”
“An infant, what infant?”
“Maybe the cyclops?”
“OH NEW GUY! He seems important!”
“Also a cyclops victim. They seem close, what do you think friend or lover?”
“They’re Greek, it’s probably both”
“I don’t know how he managed it, but this guy brought down like, the entire vibe of the entire underworld. That shouldn’t be possible”
“Yeah. Oh who’s this lady now?”
“Suicide by drowning. Not sure. Maybe a relative”
“Yeah may-THATS HIS MOM”
“OH MY GODS. OH HE DIDNT KNOW OH LORD”
“Hooooooly fuck, what a way to find out”
““Here in the underworld the past is always close behind”. Think we should make that a slogan?”
“Then we’d have to credit him and stuff tho”
“Yeahhhh. Well, seems like this guy is sticking around for a few hours. Should I grab some popcorn?”
“Yeah I’ll grab the fainting couches”
~~~
“Okay what’s happening now?”
“He just stated speaking to Tiresias”
“Tiresias? He went all the way to the underworld to speak with a prophet?”
“Well he is quite good”
“Wait did Tiresias just reject him?”
“I think so? Oh wait predictions”
“Past romance, sacrifice, betrayal, and some final battle? Who the fuck is this guy?”
“Dunno, but he’s not going home that’s for sure”
“Palace? He must be a king of some kind then”
“Do we know the names of any mortal kings”
“Nope, so that didn’t help at-wait his wife is doing what”
“Ohhh, that must be rough, hearing it from a prophet”
“Okay this chanting is getting intense. I think I heard the word Scylla”
“I heard lightning bolt”
“That doesn’t bode well”
~~~
“He’s just, sitting there”
“Is he done? Should we-oh. No okay new song, let’s see what’s going on”
“Man this guy has it rough. Should we like, do something?”
“I mean, I’m not really the “bless the mortals” type of god. I mean I let a guy borrow my helm once, and I haven’t seen it since. I should probably check up on that actually”
“Yeahhh. They killed a friend of the cyclops?”
“That explains all the cyclops victims”
““Witch turn men to pigs”, you think that’s Circe?”
“Sounds like he-WHAT WAS THAT THIRD ONE”
“You don’t think-?”
““God comes down and makes a fleet drown”, I am most definitely sure!”
“Damn. Wait wooden horse? Oh, I know who this guy is!”
“Really?”
“Yeah he’s one of Athenas warriors! Ody something. Odyssen? Odyssa? Whatever, I remember the horse thing was a big deal when it happened, Ares was pissed, Hermes spread the word to all of mount Olympus”
“One of Athenas eh? Interesting. Oh yeah, the god was definitely Poseidon”
“How are you sure?”
“That line he just sung, “Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves”, Posy is always fucking saying that crap”
“500 men? Damn”
“Penelope, presumably the wife. Don’t know about the other guy tho”
“Either a son, brother, or lover. Or maybe just a friend I dunno”
“Another infant? What the fuck is wrong with this guy, pulling a fucking Hera”
“Gotta appreciate the determination of him”
“Yeah, but I think we’ll see him here again soon. If he’s pissed of Poseidon, and soon to be Zeus if Tiresias is to be believed, I don’t think he’ll get much further when he gets out of here”
“So we are letting him go”
“Yeah. Partly because I want to see what happens next. When he gets here we’ll ask him to tell the full story, from beginning to end”
“Alrighty then”
~~~
“I swear if I get dragged out of the underworld for one of Zeus’ little games one more time this year I might actually start a war”
“Mum keeps staring at me…fuck she’s probably gonna try and talk after this, fuck meeeeee”
“We can escape in the middle of it, no one will know”
“Oh she’ll know. Do you know what this is about like, at all?”
“No, but I think Hermes might launch into the fourth dimension if he keeps vibrating like that in his seat”
“Yeesh”
“Hmm, odd. I don’t see Posy anywhere”
“Maybe he’s competing?”
“Nah, he always declines when Zeus asks, he hates it”
“Why were you not invited?”
“Dunno, probably has nothing to do with me”
“Oh it’s starting, it’s starting”
“Athena’s challenging eh? Interesting”
“Would love to know what any of this is about”
“Mortal lover? Demi-god child? Those are the usual subject”
“Yeah but that’s not Athenas thing. Probably something to do with one of her “warriors” or whatever”
“Apollo, of course. Always has to be apart of these things”
“The drama queen”
“Truly”
“Hephasteus and Aphrodite? That’s a little awkward”
“Weird lineup so far- fucking Ares? Yeah shes not winning this one, sibling spite is stronger than any argument she can give”
“Why would all three of them be included. I can feel the tension from here. I’m uncomfortable”
“And Hera? Yeah no she’s loosing for sure, Hera like not care less about any mortal, unless they’ve offended her”
“She might be convinced, just to spite Zeus?”
“That just sounds unhealthy on so many levels”
“Alright let’s see what this is about”
“Hold up, Ody?”
“Oh my gods. You thinking what I’m thinking?”
“Well he was one of her warriors. Was he not?”
“I can’t believe he’s still trying to get home. It’s been like ten years, how the fuck”
“Well, if he pissed off Poseidon then he probably has something to do with it, the pissy bastard”
“Killed sirens. Why would you do that, so unnecessary”
“Sacrifice??? What the fuck is this man up to????”
“Didn’t we have a few Scylla sacrifices a few years back. Think that was him?”
“Holy shit we did. Yeah, Posy stays away from Scylla to the best of his ability, travelling in her domain to avoid him is not a bad idea”
“‘Phro is mad that his mum died? Girl you are grasping at straws, even more than the previous two”
“Hold up, why the fuck was I not invited?! He traveled through my domain, disturbed my souls, he even woke up Cerberus with his monster wailing, I should be apart of this!”
“I mean it’s a bit weak”
“I have more grounds to be down there than fucking Apollo. Like sirens? Come on man”
“Oh ‘Phro refused huh? Only got two, that’s kinda weak coming from Athena, she usually gets at least four”
“Is that cheating? Her quick thought thing. That cheating?”
“Are there any actual rules?”
“Just, try to win, I guess”
“Oh Ares turn. Wait she lost Aphrodite, this should be over”
“I think this is more of a personal thing. Like I said, sibling spite”
“Oh yeah, Scylla! Fuck this guy is getting around”
“Oh damn, that pissed her off”
“Guessing that the guy other that Penelope, Telemewhatever was his child then”
“Oh wait they yielded?? Huh, never thought that would happen”
“And, Heras turn”
“Yeah like I said she does not give a fuck. But it was a good run”
“Yeah, keeping her four out of five streak”
“Wait what the fuck was that”
“She- she actually yielded?”
“And for not cheating! Man I love this guy, I can’t wait for him to die”
“Only you babe. Wait holy fuck she won?”
“Oh Zeus won’t like- oh, just like I said. He’s pissed”
“Is he gonna kill her?”
“If he does I’ll just resurrect her probably. She deserves a better end, even if she is annoying”
“Well, should we go then?”
“Yeah I have some paperwork to- do I hear boss music?”
“OH SHES STILL ALIVE!!”
“She took a lightning bolt to the face and lived, holy fuck. Gotta respect it”
“I think, she’s actually convincing him? Never thought I’d see the day”
“Well, she’s his favourite child. I think if Ares tried something similar he’d just get struck by another lightning bolt”
“Well, that was fun. When I come back up for spring I’ll have to check with Hermes more about the details of what’s live, actually going on with this Ody dude”
“Yeah. Wanna stop for applebees before we head on down?”
“Yeah, but let’s go now cause mum is heading like right for me and I don’t wanna deal with that until another few months”
This was dumb lol
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rzyraffek · 2 years ago
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Slashers with y/n that just gets along with everything
Like slasher could litteraly kill somone near y/n and she would be like alr alr whats really important is that you are happy🤠😎. Im sorry that first 2character had super long headcanons while last ones have way less :( I had no ideas Request open!
Billy Lenz
He always expects some sort of negative response when he calls people and when he heard new voice on the Phone he got even more exited cuz new person new reaction! He totally didnt expect her to just go "yeah yeah sure buddy, anyways... how is your day man? Cuz im so so tired...*starts normal converstation*
He probably tries to stay in character but he is so caught of Guard he doesnt know how to react really (hehe the table has turn)
Now he kinda hopes that she will pick up cuz shes very intresting😈 billy likey
"Ew its this creep again! He is asking for you y/n? Of please dont tell me you befriended him??" "So what? He said hes favourite fruit is strawberry he cant be that bad!" *billy saying slurs on the phone*
You need to constantly tell him that, no Billy no harrasing women isnt sexy, you arent quirky, you are mentally ill
"Y/n i killed that bitch that was gossiping about you 🧍 " "👍good for you billy im glad you found healthy way to cope with that negative emotion😇" "on god"
His whole moral compass is created around the simple question 'does it hurt y/n?' .1:no it doesnt so feel free to do it .2 do not do it, she will ban Billy from sweets (bad ending)
The man from hush
This guy. This dude. This Little gremlin. He is upset that he gets no reaction! Like please oh please act all angy when he 'acidently' shot tire in her car! But oh no ofc no, she had to be like "oh its okay honey i have backup in garage🥰" hes like HHUH SINCE WHEN WE HAVE GARAGE
Like tbh thats how i imagine how they met: he saw her, he wanted to hunt her, she was so chill that she didnt even leave her household while the power was off and he went inside and just saw her having lil nap on couch. 🧍🤨erm exuse me gurl im trying to roleplay epic hunter here tf
He probably kidnaped her cuz she was too weird to just kill her but he didnt want to risk her calling police. He probably tied her up and yeeted her on backseats. And then she begun judging music on the radio"yo big guy can i get some good music taste?" "What? Whats wrong with Taylor Swift?"
He will overshare everything to kinda check where is her limit if it comes to being chill "yeah so i killed this old lady.." "im sure you had good reason🥰" "🤨... anyways... yeah so i was drinking some redbull when some guy said i look ugly so i shoot his head off and-" "HEY HEY hold up geez you CANT drink Energy drinks?? Bestie you know it is unhealthy?? Also you like hunt for sport it will ruin your condition!? How you gonna shoot people with shakey hands?? You crazy or something?" "Damn😔"
Micheal myers
I tried to put him here but i realised he will be as chill as her.
Like he can give her gifts covered in blood and she' just going to clean it and wear it like nothing happened or completley ignore it
He cares about this stuff as much as y/n so like not at all. I mean tbh theres is a bit of difrence: shes at least positive about it! Like "yeah micheal go for it, love🥰😇 i know its hard to cope with trauma take it all out alr?" Shes trying to be a good supporting gf not her fault she never had serial killer bf!
Brahms Heelshire
He lives for attention! What do you mean the war crime he commited this lunch break is okay!?!? Baby pleasee
But this negativity disapears the moment he realised he can get a lot of positive attention when he will do some nice stuff! "Oh honey I didnt kill any rats today" "oh that's amazing brahms I'm sure you and the rats inside walls will get along well soon🥰" (rats in walls bully brahms)
Please complement him or he will get a tantrum and destroy something
Brahms and rats have very hard past i might do seperate hc about that
Ghostface
"Look babe! My newest victim *shows photo*" "ugh baby...😰 you NEED to buy new camera or watch some youtube tutorials about how to take good photos" "aw man whats wrong with my pictures 😔"
Otherwise y/n supports his hobbies! People need to grow😇 (and he needs to grow up)
If theres 2ghostfaces(like in most movies) they will bet money on how long you gonna keep this 'do whatever as long as youre happy' act. Well they didnt know that this wasnt an act but her personality
Also they will probably try to use this chillnes aginst her like "oooh y/n something terrible happened! I crushed my car oh what will i do!" "Alr bestie i will drive you over there😇" "😈omg you are so nice i totally didnt expect that(heheh i dont need to pay for gas today (hes very evil))
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katerinaaqu · 2 months ago
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Hello!!
Since I've seen that you've listened to both Epic and Paris the musical, I was curious to know what are your toughts on them! Did you like how the myths and characters where handled? What do you like best and worst? (If you'd like to share, what's your favourite song/moment in each?)
Thanks :]
My my you really wanna get me have an even bigger target on my back than the one I put already! Hahaha! Ok so be it! Hahaha If this gets waaaaaay too long or too runty forgive me! ^_^
You have noticed from many of my comments and my notifications, memes or jokes. I am not a fan of EPIC. Not at all. I believe I am one of the most disliked people on Tumblr on mythology matters because I so openly speak my dislike against EPIC and being annoying about it! Hahaha! XD The thing I absolutely love about it is of course the guy's passion with the project, the way the music works and all (undoubtedly the guy is a very talented composer and can combine the scene with music and emotions and the tricks he uses with music are great) but the way the plot of Odyssey was twisted beyond recognition and to the point that to me you can literally change the names of the characters to anything else and still have the story he presents with the Musical. Maybe that was his goal but in my head that is not what a retelling or an adaptation is about. A retelling to me is not something that seeks to change literally as much as possible from the plot to fit the modern standards or the fanbase. A retelling is something as the word says that "retells the story" aka adapts the story as loyally as possible and adapts it to the audinece by taking creative liberties that are still generic to the story as it was originally told so that it will fit more to the modern standards or ear.
I believe we have so much twisted the word "retelling" that nowadays "retelling" seems to be equivalent to "let's change the hell out of the story because the original plot is not even THAT important to be salvaged and no modern person would watch it anyways" which in my opinion is not the case at all. Unless of course one writes satire. Then it doesn't matter, as I mentioned to another ask of mine.
I lost interest and was massively disappointed from the end of second saga and the song "Storm". The first two sagas were a masterpiece. The creative liberties were amazing to make sense with the plot and give the characters motivation (for example "I'm just a man" was FANTASTIC! The way the myth from Iliou Persis that gave us only one phrase "Odysseus kills Astyanax by throwing him off the wall" is now transformed into a marvelous emotional dilemma and a painful decision). In this case the creative liberty work WITH the plot and not against it. I didn't mind it as much that they made Polites a fluffy guy for no reason to fit that stereotypical "innocence of the team" plot because Polites is a clean slate character in Odyssey. However after Storm I started seeing your typical "Hollywood film 'adaptation' logic with changing stuff at the plot". I was intrigued at how they decided to give Polyphemus an excuse to kill like the guys enter a cave that is obviously habitable and kill an animal that is obviously domesticated and they do not know someone lives there? In the original it was clear someone lived there which made Odysseus curious to interract with them. I was willing to ignore that because ok creative liberties but then Athena was there!? And she gave Odysseus every opportunity to kill him while Odysseus was just "TOO NICE?!" like since when? Odysseus was all about killing him but he had no guarantee he would plus he needed him to open the cave. And the way he revealed his name in the musical was so rush and almost "out of spite" for Athena not a result of a secclusion in a cave for days and days and then his pride speaking up when Polyphemus called him a coward (which I tried to capture to my fic, not sure if I succeeded but still). So anyways at that point I was sure we wouldn't see the last of it with the changes. Poseidon destroys the ships instead of the Laestrygonians (no surprise there, rarely ever see anyone even mention the Laestrygonians yet alone show their contribution to the Odyssey) but then Circe happened and I just knew that we would have to derail from the original more and more
Circe's role was incredibly diminished for the sakes of making her actions more mellow and pass the message of loyalty and kindness. Circe in the original gives Odysseus valid information for his trip provisions and much more. In Epic not only we do not see the importance of Odysseus selling himself to Circe and we have Circe for some reason seducing him to kill him (removing her humanity from when she got scared that her magic won't work on him, potentially thinking he is some kind of god, begging for her safety to then suggesting her bed as Hermes predicts) I mean she had lions and wolves to her disposal she doesn't need to seduce him to kill him. Then of course Jorge realized that a big chunk of plot is missing and so he made Odysseus find out about Skylla by the sirens?! Like...okay... Even Tiresias gives him almost nothing (in the original he also tells him how to break the curse) Which seems interesting how Odysseus breaks down with "Monster" in Tiresias when he has received an act of kindess before. Wouldn't it be more amazing if he had that breakdown AFTER he paid the price with Circe with his own body? That even kindess has a terrible price? Of course the most iconic scene of the Odyssey after the murder of the suitors and Cyclops, the Sirens were twisted to whatever we had there; Odysseus listening to their song was of massive importance to his natural curiocity and we didn't get that (not to mention how would the sirens spell work on him and have Penelope there if he didn't hear their song in the first place?) and of course the fact that he kills them?! Like...how that even works I have no idea and like in the original people were running for their lives. Didn't even look back. Apparently they had all the time in the world to capture them, they knew apparently exactly how many they were and then they kill them?! Like I won't even say that they used the medieval mermaid instead of the sirens and then they "leave them drown" (how you drown fish people is beyond me! Maybe they are sharks that need to keep moving lol) and of course again that scene seemed to me that it was there only to show that "Odysseus is a monster" which makes no sense Odyssey-wise for many reasons. and then of course again Skylla; Odysseus doesn't gear up to protect his men, he is the one who chooses the sacrifice out of spite etc etc
Many others got sped up like the Helios cattle but ok I guess that is expected up to one point even if it could be handled differently but of course then we have also Zeus being a jerk and again making Odysseus choose? The storm that took the lives of his men was a natural consequence, not some twisted thing to prove how "monstrous" Odysseus is. In fact Odysseus tried till the last moment to sail away and save the lives he could (see my other analysis here) and of course again as many people said on God Games and all how Zeus was twisted yet another time although in Odyssey he had zero reasons to object apart from the natural hubris nemesis sequence. He never called Odysseus "shameful" either. In fact he says he agrees with Athena that calls him the most pious.
I think the massive change that I believe is abused by modern retellings is the whole "monster to man" trope. Odysseus losing his moral compass and "becoming the monster" and the plot around revolving to it. That was never the pont of Odyssey in my opinion. Odysseus never really lost his moral compass it is just his morality was not all pure and lovey in the first place. Was he changed by his experiences to be more ruthless in general? Absolutely but he was never changed to a monster according to Homeric version (because post-homeric versions already treat him as a villain from the get-go)
As for the things I liked about it, I had made a post you can see here:
I do love the harmonies and the music in it and I love the passion and the talents of the people in it. It is just that the whole plot for me is just not it. Also maybe I am also mostly annoyed with how the "fandom logic" has taken over it. Like internet getting swarmed by it. Epic quotes or facts getting literally mixed up or associated with the original or the fact we can no longer speak on the original unless someone brings up Epic the Musical... This annoys me to no ends. Of course I recognize the passion of the fans of the musical. Is just a personal thing to me. I felt the same when people were using Percy Jackson or Miller's books to talk on mythology before. Is the same here.
Of course I need to say this all the above is my PERSONAL OPINION. I have literally NOTHING against people who love the musical and the original equally. I am just NOT one of them. Also i have nothing against the artist either. I just do not agree with his outtake. Still appreciate his hard work. However when I saw the firsttwo sagas I knew this guy KNEW his mythology which is why I feel so disappointed that his later sagas felt like "Hmm...let me use that knowledge I definitely have on Odyssey just to change the hell out of it!" And that had me very sad and lowkey annoyed because I think this guy had some real stuff to create an actual Odyssey adaptation and yet again we had your average hollywood film plot where you barely see any of the plot he ellegedly adapts
Now on Paris the Musical I had answered another ask you can see here
I will not take more space on this already huge and runty post that probably made me more annoying and irritating around Tumblr! XD Generally again has little to nothing to do with Iliad but I loved the music (it was arguably one of the most original choices for music for a musical) and the songs I mention to the ask. Apart from that I am ot ecstatic by it either (arguably stage musicals do not seem to work for me when it comes to the ancient classics to a large degree because of how much the plots need to be overly simplified to fit the time frame) but I am more happy that it din't get blasted out of proportions like Epic was so the plot of it doesn't even need to be pointed out that it is not accurate and all. It is self-evident. The fact that the creator of Epic needed to "warn the fans" on how inaccurate his work is, speaks volumes to me.
I will close this runt now because is already too long. I think both Epic and Paris musicals have little to nothing to do with the things they adapt but Ironically Paris the Musical changed less stuff than Epic in comparison to magnitude. Both are passionate projects with great potential and very good music but plot wise I am not anymore surprised that they do not follow the actual plots or character developments. I am surprised that Epic was more accurate to the character development of Eurylochus than the main protagonist Odysseus! Made me focus more on Eurylochus than Odysseus! Hahaha!
I am glad that the musicals make more people willing to read the originals though. For that I am grateful.
And if I have to pick one song from each musical I would say "Just a Man" and "Business" respectably but of course I like others as well especially from Epic such as "Horse and the Infant", "Will of the gods" and "Storm".
I hope this answers your questions! I will elaborate further on some of the points I make here if you want! ^_^
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sotiredimbored · 5 months ago
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kuko/ollie, any/all, genderfluid, ace, biromantic, minor, asian-american, infp, slytherin, cabin 7, just a silly little guy, neurodivergent
insta, art blog, writing blog, and pinterest!
i cannot donate
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cool info about me!!!
stuff i like✩: pasta, birds, the sound of pencils on paper, reading, writing(ill write for you if you ask), drawing(same with drawing just ask!!), animals, my friends(yeah you deal with it), heartstopper, yaelokre, epic, music(my heart and soul), my pets(i post them sometimes teehee), diet coke, purple grapes, learning languages, cosplaying, analyzing songs , bugs and jellyfish!(theres more but im lazy)
things i dislike✩: homophobes, transphobes, racists, mean people, and cicadas(no questions)
music! ✩: thazvoo, fish in a birdcage, chappell roan, kaden mackay, good kid, cavetown, tv girl, lovesick, baby queen, glaive, conan gray, the neighbourhood, ichika nito, the greeting committee, alex g, noah floersch, pkch, waterparks, sundial, yaelokre, emei, girl in red, SALES, mad tsai, and lyn lapid!!
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a cool person(@funz1es) made me a mood board and it's amazing
ᴺᴼᵂ ᴾᴸᴬᵞᴵᴺᴳ: Crush Culture(Conan Gray)
1:42───ㅇ───── 3:24
↻ ◁ II ▷ ↺
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[idea stolen from @starmanbutitsregulusblack]
my amazing moots who followed me even tho im weird(lmk if you wanna be removed/sorry if i forgot you)
@sweetest-thing-in-hell ˋ°•*⁀➷ from what ive seen a very sweet and kind person
@mintbecrazy ˋ°•*⁀➷ i promise im not eating so much mints anymoer thumbgs up
@woahg-i-am-thoroughly-confused ˋ°•*⁀➷ a very nice and kind awesome being
@apjofan ˋ°•*⁀➷ i am realizing how many new moots i have !!
@emdabitchass ˋ°•*⁀➷ awesome cool pjo friend
@just-another-starry-dreamer ˋ°•*⁀➷ tbh kind of an unpaid therapist
@that-willowtree ˋ°•*⁀➷ havent interacted much yet but seems very kind and nice
@starkissed-mars ˋ°•*⁀➷ i will miss you sigh
@here-am-i-sitting-in-a-tin-can ˋ°•*⁀➷ so nice i mixed up your timezone once
@asters-tempo ˋ°•*⁀➷ so awesome and the art <3
@stars-taylorsversion ˋ°•*⁀➷ new moot new moot new moot
@rins-batcave ˋ°•*⁀➷ we have been friends for a hwile and your favorite color is green
@deadatthealtar ˋ°•*⁀➷ mutual new
@circe-butbetter ˋ°•*⁀➷ eeee friend friend friend friend
@emilem-forevermore ˋ°•*⁀➷ so awesome you always reblog my posts so ty ty
@racc00ning ˋ°•*⁀➷ we talked about epic ina moment of time
@aidens-ocean-galaxy ˋ°•*⁀➷ go to aiden for yellow jackets infortmaiont
@calypso10191 ˋ°•*⁀➷ eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee so amazing counting down the days until we can yap again
@seekmemystar ˋ°•*⁀➷ i think about something that itar said about once a day
@thestrawberryapologist ˋ°•*⁀➷ friends we are
@planetjinko ˋ°•*⁀➷ we havea lot in common but youre so cool hrewour
@a-t1r3d-b1s3xual ˋ°•*⁀➷ the person that i yap to daily soryr alayna
@moku-and-his-madness ˋ°•*⁀➷ we need to talk so much so so much
@serialkilluh-1996 ˋ°•*⁀➷ you check up on me youre great
@arandombiped ˋ°•*⁀➷ friends :0
@demigod-jack-hearth ˋ°•*⁀➷ we should yap to one another more
@blizzardtheartisticfox ˋ°•*⁀➷ we reblog each othetrs things
@choucon ˋ°•*⁀➷ obsession with bandages club
@xx-neuro-xx ˋ°•*⁀➷ hugs for you/np
@kermit-the-fag-official ˋ°•*⁀➷ friend :D
@pearl-div3r ˋ°•*⁀➷ you accepted my best friend application !!
@fishcow99 ˋ°•*⁀➷ you talk about things and i dont realy uderstand but matt roman seems great
@hershey-not-the-chocolate-maybe ˋ°•*⁀➷ i have 200 dollars in my shoping cart you know
@kunikisss ˋ°•*⁀➷ eating your art while you read this
@kawaiibarty ˋ°•*⁀➷ remember when i mispelled your name so bad you got a new nickname
@butch-marauders ˋ°•*⁀➷ girl in red
@sunsets-are-my-universe ˋ°•*��➷ mutual of the new
@mun-urufu ˋ°•*⁀➷ dopamine >:D
@raeprise ˋ°•*⁀➷ friend sending love
@k-is-for-potassium ˋ°•*⁀➷ you have saved me in school many times
@yourlocalbadgerscales ˋ°•*⁀➷ haters dont get potaters (u r not a hater)
@stqrgirl3 ˋ°•*⁀➷ friend !! we yap
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@whydousernamesevenexist ˋ°•*⁀➷ actually so cool whatttt
@aesthetic-writer18 ˋ°•*⁀➷ WRITER FRIEND you helped me watercolor
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@themortalityofundyingstars ˋ°•*⁀➷ so cool omg omg omg
@lifegoalsofafish ˋ°•*⁀➷ hello !! one of my first friends
@garden-of-runar ˋ°•*⁀➷ awesome i cannot believe we talk
@gasolinehornet ˋ°•*⁀➷ actually not scary
@stars-on-my-bedroom-ceiling ˋ°•*⁀➷ THE FIRST
@definitionoffuckup ˋ°•*⁀➷ integrated me into tumblr
ok bye
*scurries off into the distance*
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blacktobackmesa · 5 months ago
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SO I MADE A PROOF OF CONCEPT.
music used: kirby's epic yarn, mort garson's plantasia
voices: my beautiful self
Transcript:
GORDON
“Am I the asshole if I yelled at a clown?” Now I’m gonna pre-empt here. I’m gonna say it first, nobody else gets the satisfaction: What’s Gordon doing yelling at a mirror? Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha.
BUBBY
What-- Gordon, don’t be so hard on yourself!
TOMMY
We’re not gonna call you a clown, Mister Freeman. 
BENREY
Yeah, I like clowns. 
GORDON
Is “I like clowns” your way of saying I’m not a clown? Or are you just saying it? Just saying it to say it? [Beat.]
Benrey, do you not like me?
[Beat.]
BENREY
Clowns are cool, I don’t know what else to tell you. 
[SFX: The Banjo-Kazooie Jiggy Collection Jingle plays. This is Gordon’s stream donation alert.]
COOMER
Gordon, please tell us a story.
GORDON
So! “So I live in Brazil--”
[SFX: The Brazilian Football/soccer goal fanfare. An echoing voice shouts “BRASIL!” and is followed by upbeat music. The sound cuts off abruptly.]
GORDON
Thank you, Benrey. “I live in Brazil, and it’s a little common to have people in clown attire and makeup trying to sell you stuff at the subway entrance, and they can be a little annoying. They even started carrying a credit card machine so people can’t use the old excuse of ‘I don’t have any cash on me’.
DARNOLD
I love the wording of the singular credit card machine for all Brazilian clowns. 
GORDON
[rereading]
“Started carrying a--” I didn’t even notice that.
COOMER
They’re sharing!
BUBBY
“When I was your age, we only had ONE credit card reader, and we had to go all the way to São Paulo to borrow it for ONE customer!”
TOMMY
That must be why they hang out at the train station! 
BUBBY
Right! They have to travel!
GORDON
Come on, guys. Are you really gonna do this to someone who speaks English as their second language?
TOMMY
Oh no! We don’t want to make fun of them. We’re, we just like their words!
BENREY
English is hard. You gotta embrace when you say wrong shit. It’s like art.
COOMER
Gordon, we are creating derivative works from the words of the clown yeller. 
GORDON
Alright, fair enough. “I was walking to the subway that I usually go to. It was early for me, nine in the morning. I was going to work because my boss asked me to go early so the cleaning lady had someone there.”
BUBBY
Nine A.M. is EARLY work hours in Brazil? What the hell are we doing here?
DARNOLD
If I showed up to the Mixology department at nine in the morning, I’d be demoted back down to working at the gift shop!
COOMER
Doctor Freeman was able to hold down his position in spite of his frequent tardiness! 
DARNOLD
Doctor Freeman started the end of the world. 
COOMER
Darnold, that sounds like a skill issue.
GORDON
[beginning with a raised voice to restore order]
“Keep in mind that I was at work until midnight the night before and was going to work until midnight again, so I was a little tired and thinking about my day.”
DARNOLD
You guys got to go home between shifts?
Okay, that-- that sounds a little closer to my work schedule.
BUBBY
GORDON
“Getting close to the subway, I saw the clown and-- [laughs]
[SFX: Gordon’s stream alert faintly goes off. It is followed by the Geraint TTS voice, which says “BRASIL CAMPEÃO DO MUNDO”.]
GORDON
 --I saw the clown and immediately thought, ‘Oh fuck. He’s going to stop me’.”
COOMER
Gordon, I can award you one PlayCoin for every time I have heard that arrangement of words in that order.
GORDON
“‘He’s going to stop me to try to sell me stuff.’ So when I was approaching him, and he already started to talk before I even finished crossing the street, I was already putting my hand up and saying, ‘Sorry man, I’m good’.
BENREY
“No thanks. I already ate.”
GORDON
Exactly. “He tried to make me stop, even though I was on my third ‘dude, I’m good.’ And when he was still trying to make me stop, something came over me.”
BENREY
Lust.
GORDON
No.
Tommy, Darnold, Coomer and Bubby break into laughter. Gordon eventually laughs as well. 
GORDON
No-- [clears throat] “Something came over me, and I just yelled, ‘DUDE!’ and looked at him while I was still walking.” Presumably in Portuguese, so the tone might be a little different from “Dude”.
DARNOLD
Does anyone here know how you say “dude” in Portuguese?
BENREY
You don’t. 
TOMMY
Probably Mano.
GORDON
Chat says “cara or mano”. What was that, Tommy?
TOMMY
Mano.
GORDON
Mano. Good to know. “He looked fucking pissed, and when I was a few good steps away from him, he yelled: ‘I’M JUST WORKING! FUCK!’ And I yelled--”
TOMMY
He broke the clown code!
GORDON
--And I yelled back, ‘FUCK, AND I’M GOING TO WORK!”
BUBBY
A traditional call and response.
GORDON
And it closes with “Did I just create the Joker? Lol.”
DARNOLD
I dunno. I think the Joker would be pretty embarrassed if his entire backstory was getting yelled at once at the train station. 
BUBBY
“You wanna know how I got these scars?”
TOMMY
Yeah. Brazilian Joker-- 
BUBBY
“From sharing one credit card reader!”
[SFX: Gordon’s stream alert goes off once again, followed by the TTS voice saying “Five months. Lust.”]
TOMMY
--he would be a lot cooler than that.
GORDON
So aside from that, is OP the asshole for yelling at a clown?   
COOMER
I think they made a friend!
GORDON
You do? By yelling?
COOMER
These two working class heroes shared an important bonding moment about the difficulties of earning a living.
BUBBY
Yeah, some days you just need someone to scream the Fuck word at.
GORDON
Well, shit. 
BUBBY
OP made that clown’s day.
GORDON
I’m convinced. Yeah, all agreed?
TOMMY
Yeah.
DARNOLD
Yeah, no harm done.
BENREY
It’s part of that circle of life.
GORDON
Well, there we go. Not the asshole.
COOMER
The real clown was capitalism.
[SFX: A fanfare noise plays. This is followed once again by the Brazil Football fanfare, this time played in full without a cutoff.]
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generouskittentidalwave · 8 months ago
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Talking about Odysseus after disappearing for months
Ah greek mythos tumblr, one of my first tumblr stomping grounds. Alright ima make this short and sweet on my current thoughts on Odysseus
Ancient greek Odysseus is such a fun character and one of my fav ancient greek heroes that I've studied so hard I know things about him by heart. However it's hard to outwardly enjoy his character with the public as ppl either take things heavily out of context because they don't know ancient Greek and translations suck, and they read stuff about him also heavily taken out of context by those same ppl that paint him as an asshole, abusive, aggressive, womanizer who cheated, which none of these are true, and the asshole part is only half true as it could be seen as an asshole by our standards but back then he was genuinely a good sane guy with the hubris the size of an ox and heavily undiagnosed adhd. Or they see Odysseus as one character which a lot of ppl, even ppl who love his character, do so they claim everything the character has ever done to being one person, both good and bad, when that is furtherest from the truth.
In reality Odysseus is not one single person and never has been. Homer did not create his character, he created an adapted and revised version of his character that many have created before he came along and many have created after him. Even non Greeks created stories about him. The story about Odysseus leaving that one guy on the island? Yeah never actually happened in greek terms, in reality Odysseus wasn't actually there in the story at all and didn't do or say much of anything other than "🕴" the whole time, yet because of that one story ppl blame him for being the main cause of it anyway. Odysseus has never been and never will be one person, you basically find a variation of him that you like and enjoy it and add bits from other stories to it and boom there ya go, enjoy it. That's how it works and always has worked for centuries.
And Odysseus is being brought back and rewritten all over again in our modern era via Epic the musical by taking a character that was created beforehand and adapting and revising said character, just like homer once did, and so did the others before them. And in the future ppl may question the morals of said musical and make another Odysseus to fit their modern time. It's an endless cycle that will repeat itself forever.
If you were to ask me who my favorite Odysseus is? The Odysseus in EPIC the musical while adding a few bits of the Iliad here and there (hoping he makes an Iliad musical one day), it's the one I grew most attached to and love as an adaption. Ancient Odysseus is an amazing one but Modern Odysseus is my personal favorite.
So enjoy your variation of Odysseus and have fun with it as long as you stay respectful to the greek culture and it's original source (aka don't make Odysseus a horrible man and his two rapists girlbosses and label him a cheater, that shit AIN'T flying around here. Period.)
And I hope you all have an amazing day and night! ^^
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kiwikay3 · 2 months ago
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Hello World!!
My name is Mr. Kiwi, but you can call me Kay or Kei! (call me Mr. Kiwi and I'll reply with a 💚🥝)
I'm prob gonna post sum sille stuff here, maybe snippets of covers. I have an account on YouTube so maybe I might post the full ones there but I don't even know how to make covers so WHERE DO I START LOL- (btw this is not promised idk if imma make covers because school)
Anyways, Ryo's my friend (for all of you tsams crazy ppl) and uh, this account was originally made for following her but I ended up customizing my page and replying to some of Ryo's posts and now I'm forced to post something so someone help me plz 😀
I'm gonna list some random things from here like fandoms, my yt link, etc. etc.
Fun facts:
I go by xe/xir (for now my pronouns have been changing a lot rn lol)
Idk my gender nor my sexuality (I say bigender and lesbian but idk)
I'm a kiwi (yes the fruit kiwi- 🥝🥝)
My fav fruit is mangoes (HAHA U STUPIDOS THOUGHT I EAT MY OWN KIND NO WAY-/silly)
I hate @ryomaandgundhamkin since she's literally telling all her followers to follow me and I didn't even post anything except for this and one other post/j (luv u katie <3)
Fandoms!!!: (This is so that u guys can give me requests IF I KNOW HOW TO MAKE COVERS lolol)
EPIC: The Musical (Main, also have anyone seen the vengeance saga? IT SO GOOD-)
Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss
Hamilton
Dear Evan Hansen
Beetlejuice
Newsies (ik im a musical girly :3)
TSAMS (i can do Mrs. Shadow songs also i was forced into this fandom-)
These are some few more fandoms, I don't think they have songs tho :)
The Amazing Digital Circus
Murder Drones (Not me swooning over Tessa/Cynessa whenever I see them mhm mhm)
Danganronpa (sort of I only watched the first one and this is also forced by ryo T^T)
Uhhhhh I don't have any more although I might join a few in that case I might edit this post :P
Also heres my YT: Click here hehe :3
Alright everyone! That's it from me!!! Kiwi out :D
-Ur fav Kiwi <3
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jadelemonadee · 5 months ago
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give me a complex rundown of samuels personality in your mind when i say complex i mean complex like 3 paragraphs
shiiiit okay here we go fasten your seatbelts (guys idk if i’ll be able to stretch this shit out into three paragraphs but I DID get the best score on my essay about bottled water for a standardized test soo…,) also im going to be stealing a lot of stuff from genius annotations and other things beware
ALRIGHT HERE WE GO so how i see him personally is just this annoying, stuck up guy who is the #1 george III glazer (/j) + he views himself as above the revolutionists and sees them as these vulgar barbarians who are trying to lead people to “the dark side” (don’t let them lead you astray) BUUUT although he acts all righteous, hamilton pushes him off of that high horse of his (and almost his box…,literally) with his AWESOME EPIC WITTY writing and argumentative skills showing that seabury wasn’t even all that in the first place (and NOT ELOQUENT!!!! cmon man you can’t be acting all high and mighty and then epically lose a debate to someone young enough to be your son HUMBLE YOURSELF BEFORE THAT 19 YEAR OLD DOES IT FOR YOU😭😭) another thing ive noticed is that whenever hamilton speaks there’s little to no instruments in the background maybe showing that he doesn’t even need music for support of his arguments and to completely obliterate samuel (just listen to the instrumental trust…….idk where im going with this alright it’s 12:10 as im typing this part)
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okay some other things i want to add are little details about this whole shabang like how seabury’s accent seems almost forced, as if he’s trying to create similarities between him and the beloved figure of his majesty (/sar 😛) and the fact that seabury went by the name A.W. farmer in his papers about the revolution which IN THE MUSICAL could maybe be another example of my previous point since one of the king’s nicknames was “farmer george” (although as far as i know it was used some with political satirists….SAMUEL FCS DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE MAKING YOUR KING GEORGESONA OR SMTH😭😭😭) secondly i really like the detail that lin had both seabury and the king’s songs both include instruments like the harpsichord + they both use formal vocabulary meanwhile The Revolution People (TM) use more modern slang + instruments in their songs, showing the growing contrasts and conflicts between the loyalists and patriots!!!! so cool we love you LMM anywho also the fact that seabury soon realizes after hamilton starts interrupting him that he won’t be able to beat hamilton with words so he might as well try to physically get ahead of him (pushing the box in front of him ect ect) and then doing his big “FOR SHAME” near the end as a last resort, “modulating the key” as they call it /j (this one was said by thayne himself) lastly just the fact that you can hear the guys making barking and whining noises after hamilton makes his epic mange joke….,,like that’s so silly i love that for them
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i did it i technically did three paragraphs ARE YOU HAPPY ANON /j
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milder-manners · 7 months ago
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Which challenge was your favorite from Dream? (I'd say bar manhunt but maybe it's actually not your n°1)
I personnaly really liked the random item challenge and the death swap
- V
(Manhunt is def my n1, don't worry I'm pretty standard)
My non-manhunt favorites change pretty often but at the moment ...
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THESE TWO!!!
Minecraft Random Item Challenge VS 2 Hunters my Beloved!!
Like you V, I fricking love this video. The Drama, the unintentional thematic items, the situational comedy, (the story fic potential)!!
The video starts off with pretty standard stakes, Sapnap and George vs Dream. An unfair match, but no one’s upset, the audience knows how easily Dream can turn the tables if the circumstances turn juuust right. And despite what the title says, Dream is a Hunter like Sapnap and George. They all only have one life, and are fighting to the death.
But then, not even 5 min in, the power levels get completely skewed. George and Sapnap both receive diamond weapons and George gets a diamond chestplate, and Dream gets his iconic turtle helmet. Suddenly, the fight becomes a chase, and Dream has to run for his life until a new item spawns in to even the tides. (He finds a ruined portal underwater, and inside its chest is a flint and steel.)
Dream then gets some good armor and a trident, and the dynamics change once again.
The video kind of takes a turn for the comedic here. It’s a 2v1, yet Dream becomes the aggressor. He’s starts initiating fights, the one who chases down Sapnap and George with his dozen tridents, and it’s the duo who begins running off, building up a tower to get away. And this goes on even when George gets netherite boots and chest plates, and Sapnap gets an elytra and rockets; they still mostly engage in guerrilla tactics to basically harass Dream. Dream literally begins yelling at them to come here and fight him.
And that tickles me so much because this is basically a culmination of how the manhunts conditioned George and Sapnap to treat Dream; a guy who’ll prevail against all odds.
And this over precaution is what ultimately does them in in the end. It gave Dream enough time and space to prepare a TNT trap that kills them all.
Man, it’s such a fun video. I didn’t even mention all the little moments between everyone, like “OH GEORGE” “IT’S OH SAPNAP!”, “You have better stuff than us” “Pff—how?”, “George, I know you can’t drive but you need to do a u-turn baby”; and how the items eventually gained a theme with each hunter, creating a pseudo narrative of a sky spirit and rock/metal spirit harassing a sea spirit. It’s such a good mix of tense competition, and silly fun.
Minecraft Hostage Simulator
Another 2v1 video but also a muffinteers video! This one is such a classic for me, I genuinely hope they revisit this one.
The gradual development of Bad becoming a complete menace. The long trek of the horn passing between George and Sapnap and eventually to Bad. That hilarious point in the Nether where the two beat the shit out of Bad while he hangs off the cliff as retaliation. Dream embracing his inner trickster archetype, setting a deal with Bad with specific conditions to loophole around them. Sapnap and George pulling off that incredible boat trick and snatching Bad from Dream. Dream getting murdered by dolphins, a complete turnaround from their usual grace. The dynamic shifting midway in the video to a 3v1 when the Hunters decide to work together to Get Bad.
And that epic fight/chase after the Nether!!! Oh My God!!
The improvisation, the lying, the music with the chase, the buildup of tension from the editing! The sudden introduction of the reason behind Bad being a hostage was that he’s a sacrifice to feed the dragon?!?! Chefs kiss. Incredible ten out of ten.
Again, I hope this video comes back but with a way for Bad to win. He was literally the star of this show.
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oddyseye · 11 days ago
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Let's talk about Polites in EPIC: The Musical...and Eurylochus.
I do not get the hype for Polites. Yes, he’s supposed to be this sweet, trusting, “open arms” guy who exists to show Odysseus the value of kindness, but he’s an actual walking disaster. He’s a hypocrite through and through. This man fought in the Trojan War — there’s no way his hands are clean — so his sudden push for peace and “let’s all trust each other” feels completely illogical. You don’t get to be a warrior and then act shocked when the world bites back. Here’s what gets me: Polites doesn’t even suffer the consequences of his own idiocy. He dies immediately, leaving the rest of the crew (especially Odysseus) to clean up the mess. His naive, sunshine-and-rainbows approach literally causes everything to fall apart. It’s because of his influence that Odysseus shows mercy to the Cyclops. Look, Polyphemus wasn’t just some big guy with sheep; he was a monster who ate people alive. Odysseus could have stuck to what he does best — being clever, ruthless, and surviving — but instead, Polites’ “let’s be kind and reasonable” act softened him. What did that get them? Poseidon’s rage, storms that killed dozens of men, and an endless chain of suffering. I don’t even feel bad for him because he’s the one who got them into that situation. He got bludgeoned to death, and Odysseus was left holding the guilt and the trauma. Polites did more harm to Odysseus than any monster, god, or storm combined. His naive “open arms” nonsense shattered everything Odysseus built.
His “open arms” philosophy doesn’t even fit the world they live in. This isn’t some cozy, peaceful land — it’s a brutal, war-torn reality where gods toy with humans for sport and monsters eat you for dinner. Odysseus knows this. He’s been through ten years of war, and his leadership is built on cleverness, caution, and yes, ruthlessness when necessary. Polites telling Odysseus to just trust people is like handing a lamb to a lion and acting shocked when it gets eaten. It’s ridiculous. And for all the praise he gets for his ideals, what do they actually accomplish? Nothing. They just put everyone in danger. I care about the impact he had on Odysseus, of course, but not him as a person — because his ideals were dangerous, and his death came way too soon for it to feel meaningful. He was a plot device, not a hero. Meanwhile, Eurylochus gets called selfish, but at least he wasn’t stupid enough to greet the Cyclops or a pretty witch with open arms (and legs).
And keep in mind that, in the original epic, Polites is barely even a footnote — a guy who gets name-dropped once or twice and that’s it. He wasn’t Odysseus’ best friend, he wasn’t some great philosopher of peace, and he definitely didn’t have this huge impact on Odysseus’ leadership. He was just another member of the crew. Yet, for some reason, Jorge decided to pluck him out of obscurity, slap on some manufactured “kind soul” personality, and act like he’s this beacon of morality who changes everything. And for what? Polites’ entire presence in Epic feels like a forced excuse to make Odysseus feel bad about everything. Polites wasn’t important in The Odyssey, so why does Epic act like losing him broke Odysseus? If the story wanted to explore Odysseus’ guilt, fine — but why pin it all on some guy who didn’t even matter in the original myth? At least Eurylochus had a real role in the Odyssey. He was Odysseus’ second-in-command, brother-in-law, and actually did stuff. Speaking of Eurylochus, my man deserves some credit for being an actual human character. Eurylochus makes bad decisions, but at least his choices feel human. Polites, on the other hand, is just...there. A one-note plot device designed to give Odysseus trauma.
I call Polites a hypocrite, while everyone slaps that title onto Eurylochus. But honestly, if anything, Eurylochus is the only crew member who shows consistent growth throughout the story. Eurylochus doesn’t just blindly follow Odysseus or cling to pretty ideals like Polites. Instead, he’s pragmatic, deeply flawed, and painfully human — exactly the kind of person you’d expect to survive years of war and suffering. And honestly? He’s the only one who sees through Odysseus’ contradictions and calls him out when it matters most. Let’s start with the wind bag incident. People love to blame Eurylochus for this, but let’s look at what really happened. Odysseus did tell the crew what was in the bag — he made it clear: “This bag has the storm inside, we cannot let the treasure rumor fly!”
But by that point, the crew was exhausted, starving, and suspicious of their leader. It didn’t help that the Winions planted the idea that the bag contained treasure. That’s what drove the crew to act — greed and distrust, born out of their suffering. And despite the fact Eurylochus didn’t act alone, he often gets singled out as the scapegoat. But reminder that Odysseus refused to let anyone carry the bag, didn’t share its burden, and still kept himself separate from the crew. The men were barely hanging on, and their captain’s secrecy — however well-intentioned — made it easy for paranoia to fester. Was opening the bag a mistake? Absolutely. But it wasn’t just Eurylochus’ fault. It was the natural result of a crew pushed to their breaking point, fueled by mistrust. And when everything blew up — literally — who carried the blame? Eurylochus. Because that’s the role he always ends up in: the fall guy for everyone else’s failures. Then there’s Circe’s island — another moment where Eurylochus’ actions get unfairly criticized. When the men are turned into pigs, Eurylochus does something incredibly human: he panics. He doesn’t want to rush back into danger, and his instinct is to survive. And thus, he suggests abandoning the men and sailing away with Odysseus, which is a harsh and selfish choice. But when he suggests leaving the men, it’s because the situation with Circe is impossible, and the men are trapped. He doesn’t want to abandon them out of cruelty. And let’s not forget that Odysseus’ response is pivotal here. He tells Eurylochus this:
“There’s no length I wouldn’t go if it was you I had to save. I can only hope you’d do the same.” This line changes everything. It plants a seed in Eurylochus that will shape his future actions and, more importantly, his expectations of Odysseus. From that moment on, Eurylochus believes in the idea of loyalty — of never leaving a man behind. He takes Odysseus’ words to heart and learns from him. That’s why what happens later, at Scylla, feels like such a betrayal. When Odysseus sacrifices six men to Scylla to save the rest of the crew, Eurylochus is furious, and rightfully so. From Eurylochus’ perspective, this is hypocrisy of the highest order. Odysseus, who taught him to value every life, now coldly sacrifices six of their men without even warning them. He plans their deaths. “If you want all the power, you must carry all the blame!” This line hits hard, because it exposes the truth about Odysseus’ leadership. Odysseus demands loyalty, respect, and obedience, but he doesn’t want to share the weight of his failures. Eurylochus’ anger isn’t hypocrisy — it’s justified. He held Odysseus to the same standard Odysseus set for him on Circe’s island, and when Odysseus fell short, Eurylochus refused to stay silent. This moment is a turning point: Eurylochus transforms from the scared, self-serving man on Circe’s island to someone who believes in loyalty and accountability. He learned from Odysseus, only to realize that Odysseus doesn’t always live up to his own ideals (hmmmm who does that sound like, oh I wonder).
And to make matters worse — because of course Polites' chaos wasn't enough — we have the cattle situation, which is basically Eurylochus and Odysseus reaching their absolute breaking points. Let’s get one thing clear: what happens with the cattle of Helios? That’s not Eurylochus being weak or selfish — it’s Eurylochus being human. By the time they get to the island, the crew is starving, hopeless, and barely hanging on. Odysseus’ guilt, Poseidon’s fury, everything else, it broke everyone, including Eurylochus. So when he sees those cattle, he cracks. It’s not just about hunger. It’s about everything that’s led them there: the death, the constant danger, the years of being dragged across the seas because of Odysseus’ mistakes and gods playing games. This is where the lyrics hit like a gut punch. Look at the difference in lyrics: “I need to get home!” “How much longer must I go about my life like this, when people die like this?” And that right there? That’s the heart of it.
Odysseus is fixated on his goal, on getting home, because that’s what keeps him going. But Eurylochus? He’s stuck in the present. He’s surrounded by death and misery every single day. Polites’ naive optimism is long gone, and what’s left is the harsh reality of survival. Eurylochus isn’t wrong for saying “enough is enough.” They’ve been starved, cursed, and hunted; the gods have abandoned them. Why wouldn’t he break? And Odysseus loses it. “You’ve doomed us all, Eurylochus!” And yeah, it’s easy to say that when you’re the one in charge (since Odysseus did not kill the cattle, he holds none of the blame). But Eurylochus was broken by everything that’s happened. The way Odysseus says “I need to get home” feels so disconnected from everything Eurylochus has been going through. Odysseus still sees home as the end goal, while Eurylochus has already seen how much it costs to get there. And when Eurylochus calls him “Captain” instead of “Ody” at the end, it shows that everything between them has changed. There’s no more camaraderie. There’s no more brotherhood. He knows what he’s done, but he also knows that Odysseus will never be the same after this. That shift in how he addresses Odysseus shows how much their relationship has deteriorated — and how much Eurylochus has lost. And let us not forget, Odysseus was doomed from the start.
Polites set the curse in motion. Poseidon was already out for blood. The gods were never going to let them off easy, no matter what Eurylochus did. So let’s stop blaming him for one moment of desperation when he was already broken. People always point out Eurylochus’ flaws, but they forget one key thing: he’s the only one who really gets it. He’s the one who challenges Odysseus when he sees his leader making reckless choices. He’s the one who has the courage to question Odysseus, even when everyone else is too afraid to speak up. If you ask me, Polites represents the idealistic lie — this idea that kindness and trust will save you in a world ruled by cruelty and chaos. Eurylochus, on the other hand, represents the harsh truth of what it means to survive. He’s messy, flawed, and emotional, but he’s real. And unlike Polites, who dies early and leaves everyone else to clean up his mess, Eurylochus stays until the bitter end. He bears the burden of Odysseus’ choices, and when he breaks, he does so in a way that makes you feel for him, not judge him.
Eurylochus never gets the credit he deserves because everyone’s too busy crying over Polites. Polites, who gets to die early and leave Odysseus saddled with guilt. Polites, who delivers one cheesy song about “kindness” and then gets bludgeoned in a cave. I’m supposed to feel bad for him? Sure, his death is sad, but the impact he left on Odysseus and the crew? Utter chaos. He’s the reason Odysseus showed mercy to Polyphemus, which kicked off Poseidon’s revenge. Without that storm, they could’ve sailed back home after the cyclops incident. No Circe, no gravity killing Elpenor, no Scylla, no Zeus obliterating the last of them with his thunderbolt. Polites may as well have killed the 599 men himself. Eurylochus deserved his place in the story. He earned it, and he deserves more credit than anyone is willing to give him. Polites was just a naive dreamer who died too early, leaving everyone to deal with the mess he made.
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kutie106 · 5 months ago
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@kutie106 intro post
My other blogs, @kutie-so-serious where I talk about more serious stuff, @kutie106-reblogs where I reblog things, and @kutie-writes where I put my silly writings
• My name is Rila
• I am 14
• I am biromantic and asexual
•I am gender-fluid and currently use any pronouns
• My favorite color is red
• I am American 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
• Some of my hobbies are choir, color guard, drawing, creative writing, and bracelet making
• A list of some fandoms I’m in and may post about (will be updated when I remember some)
• Nomads on Webtoon
• Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous/Chaos theory
• The Hollow on Netflix
• ATLA
• School Bus Graveyard
• High Class Homos
• The Owl House
• PJO (I haven’t read HOO or TOA yet)
• Tales of Arcadia (I watched all of it a very long time ago and and getting back into it now, so I don’t remember much other than the main plot)
• She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (Same as above)
• The Last Kids on Earth
• EPIC THE MUSICAL (PLEASE talk to me about epic it will make my day week lifetime)
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• I am always looking to make new friends, but I am not looking for any unwanted advances
• Now that all the downer stuff is out of the way, here’s a list of my amazing mutuals 😍😍😍:
@ozonekid89 (I love ur art and content in general and it’s always a highlight to see ur posts on my feed)
@stupid-squabbler (Live laugh love lesbian u absolute queen)
@thing24 (u don’t do much on here but ur pretty chill 👍)
@theronanlynchshow (You’re literally so cool color guard elder I wanna be friends)
@musical-dash-trash (Literally my twinnnn :))
@forestgromlin (you’re so awesome and such a light to my day)
@theodditylacey (you’re so smart and pretty, and like unfathomably cool)
@iloveyapping (your moodboards are so well thought out and designed AND you’ve got such a likable personality)
@strange-scottish-guy (love getting tagged in things by you even if I don’t always respond, Ty king)
@augmentedchordsofficial (you are literally so smart and fun and have so much potential)
@frenzy-fanatic (my favorite tumblr adult, also suspiciously good at art like pop off)
Currently updating this, moots who aren’t on here I still love u I’m just lazy
That’s all as of right now 😅, as said before, always looking to make new friends❤️❤️
That’s it I think, idk if I think of more I’ll add it
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bbinkus11 · 6 months ago
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ok so a while ago I did lu high school headcanons
And you know what? Music headcannons here we go
(You can count it as modern au I guess)
Time: Classic Rock all the way!! Queen, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi, Pink Floyd, Guns N’ Roses, etc. Probably knows all the lyrics to Bohemian Rhapsody like a cool person
(Probably favorite) songs:
Sweet Child O’ Mine - Guns N’ Roses
American Pie - Don McLean
You give love a bad name - Bon Jovi
Legend: E-Boy but not in a super cringey way. DEFINITELY listens to Arctic Monkeys, Tame Impala, and Cage the Elephant. His favorite Arctic Monkeys album is Favorite Worst Nightmare and you cant tell me otherwise.
(Probably favorite) songs:
Crying Lighting - Arctic Monkeys
Eventually- Tame Impala
Cold Cold Cold - Cage the Elephant
Wild: Twenty-one Pilots obsessed. Like has been to multiple concerts and listens to them every time in the car. Also likes The Last Shadow Puppets.
(Probably favorite) songs:
Heavydirtysoul - Twenty-one Pilots
Car Radio - Twenty-One Pilots
Fake you out - Twenty-one Pilots
Calm Like You - The Last Shadow Puppets
Hyrule: who knows man. Prolly listens to classical music some days and then heavy metal another day. Usually goes in between though, prolly listens to epic orchestra-performed versions of songs from his favorite video games. I’d say he likes cool orchestra stuff.
(Sticking to the Zelda theme, imma recommend stuff)
(Probably favorite) bands:
Theophany
ROZEN
The Marcus Hedges Trend Orchestra
Twilight: Oh, Twilight, what do I do with you. Pure country boy, but prefers classic rock kinda stuff. Definitely likes Zac Brown Band, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Foo Fighters.
(Probably favorite) songs:
Highway 20 Ride - Zac Brown Band
Toes - Zac Brown Band
My Hero - Foo Fighters
Wind: Could be a cringy middle school boy that listens to rap and rap only, or he could be cool and listen to musical rap (cough Hamilton uhhhh) anyway likes Twenty One Pilots’ fast songs and Tyler, The Creator. Maybeee some yeat? nah probably not
(Probably favorite) songs:
HOT WIND BLOWS - Tyler, The Creator
Trees - Twenty One Pilots
Chlorine - Twenty One Pilots
Warriors: uhhh? Probably listens to the most cringiest things as a joke but when he’s alone, he’ll prolly listen to some Eminem or Queen or Weezer or something. I like to think he has a very mixed music taste.
(Probably favorite) songs:
Buddy Holly - Weezer
Killer Queen - Queen
Without me - Eminem
Four: Heavy metal. No questions asked. He likes Korn and Slipknot, no doubt. Despite his calm demeanor, he definitely has these playing in his mind xd
(Probably favorite) songs:
Freak on a leash - Korn
Duality - slipknot
Sky: from how his character is portrayed in LU, I’d like to think he likes indie music and some indie rock. He likes Neighborhood, Laufey, Mac DeMarco, and Legend introduced him to Tame Impala.
(Probably favorite) songs:
Reflections - The Neighborhood
For the first time - Mac DeMarco
The less I know the better - Tame Impala
That’s all! I know i picked the most well known songs, but that’s the point. I want people to relate to these characters lol. Also, this has been in my drafts for uhh 4 months soooooo! Can you guys guess my music style? I know I’m biased okkkkkk
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d00dlebeez · 6 months ago
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Intro Post! (Please Read)
Hi! d00dlebeez here, this is my intro post ig? (I'm trying man)
Names to call me:
-Beez (yes)
-Ollie (yes)
-Olive (perfer Ollie but this is okie)
-Oliver (ye)
-Extra Virgin Olive Oil (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE THIS IS FOR A BIT 😭)
-Bee (sure)
-Buzzy Boy (okie)
-DoodleBeez (sure)
-Doodle (uhh, okie why not)
-DB (ok)
-Any random nickname (reserved for my partners and/or friends)
-Dumb ass, stupid, any other term like that (in a joking way ok?)
-Any Slurs (uhhhhhhhhhhh only if you know me and are doing it as a joke?)
-Legal/Dead Name (Fuck no)
Pronouns: he/they, Please use more masc pronouns if you want to refer to me
Birthday: November 30th
DNI List:
Basic things (Homophobia, Transphobia, Sexism, Racism, Pedophilia, just being weird or creepy or hateful or rude)
Nsfw (I'm a minor, if you are a nsfw account please don't follow or interact)
People who know me irl (doesn't count if we are friends)
💖🎀 If you don't follow these rules, I will block you 🎀💖
Time zone: CST
Interests:
Percy Jackson
Heroes of Olympus
Ride the Cyclone
Newsies
The Outsiders
Night at the Museum
Arcane
The Owl House
Amphibia
Tangled the Series
Varian and the 7 Kingdoms (yes I know it's not a real show, let me be delusional and give my nerdy alchemist son a boyfriend)
Epic the Musical
The Guy That Doesn't Like Musicals
Nerdy Prudes Must Die
Black Friday
Scott Pilgrim
Helluva Boss
Hazbin Hotel
random kids cartoons (mainly Bluey, don't judge me, it's good trust)
DnD
witchcraft
drawing
space
Relationship:
I am in a qpr with the lovely @frayna-of-the-hollow <3
Random Stuff ig?:
I tend to stutter irl when I'm nervous, so sorry abt that, I get really anxious at stuff, (when people are mad at me or something), I tend to say I love you and be affectionate towards my friends (if that makes you uncomfortable, please tell me), I personally use dude, man, bro, ext as gender neutral so if you have a problem with that please tell me
Also, I'm cabin 7 yall, my dads the freaking sun Broski's 😎 😎 😎 😎 😎 ☀☀☀☀☀ 🧡 🧡 🧡 🧡 🧡 (according to the official test)
Also, there will be swearing on my blog
And, ya boys got autism and probably adhd
user tags :3 (also, I didn't make any of these)
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(freddy fazbears made by @homobrainjuice)
My ao3 and wattpad accounts
(mostly crack-fics, might write more detailed stories idk)
Wattpad: d00dlebeez
ao3: Sunny_Apollo_Kid
Also, as I'm writing this my dog has sat on my computer at least 4 times
WILL BE UPDATING!
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spork-supremacy · 20 days ago
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The Epically Convoluted Journey of Agent Walker.
Guess who finished the first chapter of the fic they've been writing on and off for weeks. It's me, I am that person. Still not sure on the title but I'm fine with this.
So anyway here it is.
And for those who haven't seen my yammering on this idea. Basic concept is Agent Walker fic but loosely follows the song structure of Epic: The Musical/ The general vibe of the Odyssey.
Hope you guys enjoy.
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Agent Walker just wants to go home. He thought that was the administration, he thought that it was wherever all his stuff was, but he soon came to realise that he didn't really know what home meant, and maybe he should start looking for one. That is of course after he brings all his agents back to the Administration in one piece. He also wouldn't mind if life would just stop throwing side quests at him for five seconds.
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3480 words~
The Man and the Dragon
This was going to be a simple in and out trip. Confirm the rumours that an extremely powerful dragon is powering an entire city and decide what to do with it. All he had to do was command roughly 100 operatives in the field, none of which he had any experience with before, with him only previously having the hyper specific position of manager of realm reassignment, which means you don’t really know many people outside your field. But a simple crash course would apparently do wonders for him and, “The administrator themself said this would be a good fit for you, Agent Walker, you would have a real knack for field work that will prove beneficial.” 
Say what you want about the administration but they had operatives to spare when it came to field assignments, 100 is actually on the low end for your regular operation. 
“Alright, are we all aware of the mission ahead?”
“Yes Agent Walker!” They all shout in monotone unison.
“Good, just to be sure, I want B team to guard the entrance to the main tower, C team covers all underground exits and entrances, nothing gets in. D team I want to push ahead and make a clear path and mark the way towards the main energy supply room for the A team and I, remember guard the halls while we’re in there. Finally E team, find a way to clear out the guards and create a distraction, I'm sure you already have one prepared.”
A hand raised in the crowd. “Sir?”
Walker recognised the curly grey hair that poked out of the crowd alongside the elevated arm. “Yes, Sub-Agent Prentis?”
“I need your signature for oversight on prospective damages that may occur, marking your full responsibility on whatever happens on this mission.” Sub-Agent Prentis riffles through his bag before pulling out the pen and clipboard that he promptly lifts up to show his supervisor.
Agent Walker does not have the care or patience for any of those multiple sheets he knows is layered on that deceivingly small clipboard. “Give it to me when all teams are deployed.” He says, hoping that shuts Prentis up at least a bit. “Alright Agents, we don’t know what we could end up encountering, just hope you all got some full pens and time, because we’re going to be spending all night on the paperwork after this.”
That gets a laugh out of the several squads, always does considering their very…specific taste in humour.
“Alright let’s roll out remember your roles and execute them perfectly just like we planned, I expect no less from the most meticulous authority in all the merged realms.”
“Yes Sir,” salutes the many agents in turtlenecks and long overcoats as they all get into their respective groups and deploy themselves through the portals that took them to where they needed to be.
Jay turns to the only squad left, team A, the best of the best on field missions, he only knew two operatives on the squad, Underwood and Allen, the rest were completely obscure to him, an assortment of serpentine, merlopians, humans, and administration issued nindroids. 
And he has no idea who exactly put him in charge instead of one of them.
“Okay, prepare amongst yourselves until the signal from D team comes through on the intercom, then we move out.”
He walks off the makeshift stage, a small elevated platform, swiping the clipboard out of Prentis’ hands as he passes him, tucking it under his arm, and moving next to the water jug in the corner of the room. He takes a styrofoam cup and fills it ‘til about halfway when he moves off and plants himself on top of a crate pressed against the wall. He tends to find himself in this sort of positioning, prefers it that way, alone with his water cup, far removed from the other agents as they talk to spend the time, just as removed as he felt.
Granted he could do without the forms in his lap that he will certainly ignore until the absolute last minute.
He stares at the field agents as they laugh and chatter amongst themselves, passing the time as they wait for new orders. They all seem so naturally adept at their jobs, they all look like they want to be here, excited to give out authority and fill out forms. He has watched them everyday since his arrival, everyday of the only life he knows, and he still can’t tell if that’s just the way they are or it’s what the realm of madness turned them into. What he could eventually turn into.
He takes a sip out of his cup, continuing his gaze as he looks over the rim, that anxious feeling settling into his bones as he bounces a leg, antsy. His other hand drifts absently to the pendant around his neck, half of what he heard someone refer to as a Yin-Yang medallion, something loves gave to each other, a proposal. he once wondered where the other half went, but after a couple years it wasn't worth the thought. it did make for some fine jewelry though, and something to fiddle with.
“Sir, the signal’s been launched,” says a man, roughly early-twenties, brown hair in a neat comb over and wearing the same attire as every other agent. Well the same as everyone but Agent Walker who much preferred a well pressed suit and blue tie over a stuffy sweater layered with a trench coat any day. 
How did he miss him coming?
“Got it, uh?”
“Sub-Agent Carlton.” The man says before promptly moving off, rejoining the rest of his team.
“All right! We’re moving out!” Agent Walker yells to his squad, activating the portal he already preset on his little wrist device. Hurriedly they organise themselves into a single file line and make their way into the freshly created portal and across to the former realm of Imperium.
The coordinates chosen for their arrival is the location of a back alley behind the main tower/energy station for the entirety of Imperium, a shining beacon of light taller than any other building and placed in the heart of the city. Where they arrive however, is a place shrouded in the shadow of the tower and the surrounding high rises, and reaks of the garbage strewn across the floor, a mixture of week old take out and dead animals. 
“Remember, while the other teams may have marked out and secured a path for us, it is vital that we get in there without being noticed, as far as the Imperium guard are concerned as of now we don’t even exist and I would like to keep it that way.”
The squad proceeds to move forth with the mission and makes their way towards the basement levels, following the marks on the walls left by D team that directed them to the energy room and hopefully away from any guard patrols, if they were even still in the tower that is. The E team may have been tasked to create a distraction but Agent Walker wasn’t that bothered in the specifics of how they did it, granted he hasn’t exactly gotten word back that they were successful.
Thankfully there were no guards in sight as they weave through the basement level of the building, the grey halls all empty and silent as they coordinately move through them, aside from the odd agent they had patrolling the halls themselves, helping to confirm directions. Eventually the trail came to an end and they were met with a set of two steel sliding doors at the end of the walkway.
The door to the energy station slides open with a rapid motion, the bang ringing through the corridor. Through the doors revealed walls lined with computers. In the centre of it all hovered this bright golden barrier, shining in the harsh warm yellow lighting of the room, adding to its glow. Its presence taking all the attention away from the smaller details of the room, as if it was demanding the attention, the one dark spot on the sphere, outlining large talons.
“Shit, that’s a big dragon.” Agent Walker whispers in awe at the sheer size of such a creature. He wonders how much that thing would need to eat just to be satisfied, 100 pounds of meat, or 1 000? Probably more.
Sub-Agent Carlton, who has been shadowing Agent Walker the entire time, looks down to the tablet in his hands, trying to further pinpoint the species that could be inside the egg-like cage. “There’s a possibility, Sir, due to its sheer size that seems to be larger than any well, recorded species, it could be one of the source dragons of legend.”
“Which do you think?” In all truth Agent Walker has no idea what any of them are, despite dragons being a big part of many realms and several species across them, as well as one of the first creatures in creation, he’s never quite tried with dragon research.
“Just a rough guess but maybe the source dragon of energy, Sir.”
“What do we do in that case?”
“We have to free it, rule mandated, it’s way over the power limit.”
This was supposed to be simple, confiscate a regular high energy dragon, maybe not if it wasn’t that powerful, and go home. Having it be a dragon on par with a god in strength by the sounds of it, makes this a much higher priority mission. “Okay, I want you to get that shield thingy around it down.”
“NO.” Came a gravelly voice, from no clear direction except inside Agent Walker’s own head, and he might just know where it’s originating from. 
He turns towards the glowing yellow sphere in front of him, stepping further towards it, climbing himself onto a platform that with a press of a button rises him to the top. He stops at where the talons of the dragon were pressed against the wall of the cage, the size of it so much bigger than it was from down there, almost quadruple Agent Walker’s size in height alone.
“Why should we not let you go?” He asks aloud to the creature on the other side of the forcefield.
“Because if you uncage me you will cause the destruction of all the merged realms, the release of all that suppressed energy alone would level not only this realm, but possibly the next, burning them into nothing but ash.” The dragon brings his head to the forefront of the cage, what once was a blur of dark blue and yellow now in full focus as the jagged edges of Energy’s horn become clearer, and the sharp outline of its powerful jaw came into view. Most attention grabbing was the eye of the beast, so vibrant and yellow, outshining the glow of the already bright light emitted from the cage, so piercing and captivating.
Agent Walker looks directly into the eye of the dragon, swallowing down any fear he has lingering in his system and covers it with what he knows best: copious amounts of attitude. “Shouldn’t you be able to control that? It is your own power afterall.”
“Little Lightning, can you stop the swelling of your power when you feel a heightening of emotion? Can you stop the underlying crackle when you put yourself on guard? If I was to muzzle your power long enough, wouldn’t the build up burst out of you as it continually?”
Walker surveyed the ground below him quickly, checking if any agent had at all heard the name given to him by the dragon. “Quiet about the lightning thing, how do you even know?” He whispers aggressively.
“Do you think that even when trapped I can not feel the presence of someone containing the rawest form of my own power, lightning the purest of all energy forms, the embodiment of -”
“Okay, okay, I get it. You better not be accidentally broadcasting this to anyone else, no one can know, ever, or they’ll put me in one of those special operation units and work me to death, or First Spinjitzu Master forbid, claim me as property like all the nindroids and robots.”
“Do not fret, you are the only one I am communicating with.” And yet a deep suspicion lied within the Agent at those words, sending him into thoughts filled with paranoia, prompting a small silence to wash over the two.
“Hmmm,” Energy hums.
“What?”
“Your organisation is from Ninjago?” the dragon seeming slightly surprised, “I never knew it could develop into a place so…keen on interfering with the matters of other realms. ”
“No, we’re from the Realm of Madness.” Jay corrects him and gestures to himself, as if he was a prime example of a resident of a place designed to suck out your sanity.
“Only those from the land of the ninja would truly know about that man, he is practically their god after all, in fact you should be most familiar with him, considering he produced the element of lighting for the specific use of being a building block of that land.”
Agent Walker was starting to get very impatient with this topic. “Look, energy dragon guy, I just heard the saying somewhere and picked it up, I don’t think having a discussion of where I might come from is very productive right now.”
“Yes. I shall ask though, Little Lightning, why do you plan on freeing me?” A talon raised a little before scratching itself into the wall of the sphere, the sound sending a chill down the spine of the agent, reminding him once more of the sheer power of the beast. Almost as if a warning is being put upon him.
“The administration has a whole thing with the balance of the merged realms and maintaining order, we heard they were exploiting the power of a high class dragon. We were here to check it out and if it was much more powerful than the limit we have set in place, we would free it, things have changed now, though. You are basically a god yourself, we can’t exactly let one of the most powerful beings in existence be hogged by an entire realm. That’s not exactly fair now, is it?” He explains, a slight condescending tone covering those last couple of sentences.
The dragon hums to himself once more.“I see, well if you are so adamant on it you shall need to find a way to absorb all the energy of the field and that expelled from me.”
 While Agent Walker definitely understood all of what the dragon had asked, all he can think about is the piles of paperwork he would have to fill out. “Great, I’ll need to send in a construction request, engineering request, relic search form, a 9-p5...”
His train of thought was quickly interrupted by a blaring siren and the flashing of bright red light that encased the room, at first a warning to those who had entered, and a signal to those sent to protect the building.
Walker quickly switches on his intercom and calls out to all operatives in the room and  as he slowly descends on the platform “All teams head out and regroup at base.”
Once more Sub-Agent Carlton appeared practically out of nowhere next to him at the ready, “We have a problem, Sir.”
The kid really did love to hand out the news today.
“What is it, Carlton?”
“The portal devices are being disturbed, the frequencies are all off, if we use them there's a good chance we’ll all end up lost.”
“Then we’ll take the risk of getting scattered in able to go home.” Agent Walker responds, not really seeing the issue.
“These are very delicate things Sir, if they break, they’re as good as junk.”
Agent Walker proceeds to raise his voice at his subordinate. “Then file a broken weapon report when you get back, we can always make more but we find it much harder to recover agents that are either captured or dead.”
“But we could all get lost,” Carlton pleads.
“Or slaughtered once security gets here, there’s a reason you don’t want to get captured by a crazy dictatorship.”
“We have the technological edge, we can shoot them from afar.”
“And they could shields to block it for all we know. I don't think you understand this or did your enemy study, we have to leave now, we can signal headquarters when we get out, pick up a ride home, but we can’t do that if we’re all taken prison and have our communication devices taken from us.” 
Taking his attention off of Carlton, Walker presses the mic button on his earpiece and shouts into the intercom. “Everyone before you leave, know that when you do you must immediately call for transportation and pick up from The Administration, if your communication device is broken or missing, sorry to say but you just have to walk back.”
“Little Lightning.” Came that gravelly voice again, directly projected into Agent Walker’s head, at this point he believes he’s gaining a migraine from the act alone. He raises a hand to his forehead and rubs his temples. He does not have the time for this.
“Yeah?” He snaps, the adrenaline making its way through blood and shortening his fuse, half his brain focused on getting out of here, and the other on making this conversation as quick as possible.
“You don’t have what it takes to begin this quest, leave it with someone who has the strength and the resources, I see there are things you must do that you can not come back from. Do not argue with this, I can feel your weakness, the fragility of your state, you are not up to the task.”
“Excuse me?” No, he has been given a task by the higher ups. One that is a much larger priority than he once thought. He does this or it’s his head for it. “This is my mission and I have to comply no matter what. I'm sure I can find or make something to solve your energy overload problem, even make something if I have to. ”
Once more the dragon hums in thought before he answers the red haired man. “There is something…but you must handle it well or shall regret it.”
“What?” Agent Walker questions, the desperation in his voice just a little more apparent.
“You must take a baby dragon, preferably a lightning one, the younger the better, they have their own power but because of their youth they also serve to be absorbent to a high degree as their full energy capacity has not been developed. There is a possibility that it can consume not only the shield but also my potential power and the initial destructive wave.”
“What if it overloads?” He asks, fearing he already knows the answer.
“It dies.” Says the dragon, in a tone way too nonchalant for Agent Walker’s liking, “But that is just a consequence if you really are so keen on following your orders.”
“I’m sure there’s another way. I could make something, get someone to make something, we don’t have to risk a life, because while I might be pretty careless with how I handle my job, I would still prefer to not have any blood on my hands.”
“Didn’t you mention that something would happen to you if you didn’t comply with orders? To put it in a way you can understand: it’s either the potential blood of that baby, or yours spilt.”
The scrambling around the room increases as more agents are able to secure their portal networks and making their way through while several members of the imperium guard swarmed into the room, each in their shining bronze armour, the glowing orange blades of their swords raised and ready to strike at the nearest person they could reach.
Yet it was all numb to him for just those few seconds.
His gaze draws back to those he was supposed to be commanding, witnessing agents being dragged back by the guards, digging in their nail-like armour at the tips of their fingers, pulling desperately to inhibit escape and bring back a prize for their empress. Most were fought off with the tasers and guns wielded by the agents, but there was a couple of soldiers he could see winning, swords slowly being pressed into turtleneck jumpers, energy blasters hitting their targets a little too well, and even the faint splatters of blood coating parts of the floor. He couldn’t tell whose.
Turning back to the dragon trapped before him he felt himself get shoved by someone and into the closest portal before he could even give his answer to the god before him.
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Like I said before hope you enjoyed.
if any questions always feel free to ask.
also gold star for whoever can guess where I got Carlton's name from.
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