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alittlepudge-neverhurtnobody · 1 month ago

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kinktober #24

Ritual 🫀 / Wardrobe Woes 👕 (both!)

Ethan flops back on the chaise longue with a groan, one hand resting on the mound of his stomach beneath his waistcoat. “Oh, god,” he says, letting out a rumbling belch. “Excuse me, Miss Ives. Those men at the club know how to eat.”

“Oh, do they,” says Vanessa, closing her novel around a bookmark and getting up to perch on the edge of the chaise next to him. His eyes are closed, eyelashes resting long against his plump cheeks, and his face is flushed pink with effort. He’s been attending the fat men’s club in Chelsea for a few weeks now, and each time he returns to Grandage Place, he makes a similar scene for Vanessa. She’s quite sure it’s genuine, if the labor of his breathing and expansion of his waistline is anything to go by, but she appreciates his dedication to including her in his fun.

“What was dinner tonight?” she asks, thumbing his straining buttons and gently undoing them. She’s taken to keeping a blanket draped over the back of the chaise to pull over Ethan should Sir Malcolm or Sembene come down to investigate the fuss, lest they think her indecent for exposing him so.

Ethan groans again, as if even the thought of dinner is enough to add more weight to his stomach. “So much. I wish I could bring you along, you’d just faint. There were chicken vol-au-vents, to start, and a beef consomme. Shrimp — I guess you’d call them prawns — in some herby sauce, I forget what it was.” He stifles another heavy belch in his fist. “Sorry. I’m so stuffed I can barely think.”

“You poor thing,” Vanessa soothes, rubbing gently at his overtaxed middle. “I’m sure it was irresistible.”

Ethan’s softening jaw doubles as he bobs his head. “Oh, cooked to perfection, all of it. Even well-seasoned. I had half a mind to go bother the cook about showing me how to make them myself.” He hiccups, a little whine chasing the sound. “And that’s not the half of it. There was curried lobster and rice, roasted pork with stuffing, mutton and vegetables, all with mashed potatoes and kale. Everything drowned in — hic — cream and butter and lard. Oh, and Yorkshire pudding. I thought I was going to burst, and that was before dessert and cheese.”

Carefully, demurely, Vanessa untucks his shirt from his trousers and unbuttons his fly to give him a bit more breathing room. “I’m certain they didn’t skimp on either.”

“Oh, no. Each table had a cheese plate the size of that coffee table. I don’t know how I was still eating, but I managed a lot of it. And plenty of — urrrp — dessert. Battenberg cake, bread and butter pudding, sponge pudding with syrup, trifle with plums … I could barely waddle to my carriage by the end of the night. And I — hic — think I need to get my pants let out again. These are starting to get snug.”

Vanessa, doing everything in her considerable power to keep her hands from slipping beneath his undershirt to feel the plush give of his skin and hard bloat of his stomach, swallows with effort. “You must have one of your companions refer you to a tailor used to working with men of size. I rather think the one we usually see has tired of our antics.”

Vanessa has accompanied Ethan to have his clothes let out on several occasions already, puffing up with increasing pride at the tailor’s increasingly snide remarks about how well-fed he must be. As perversely satisfying as it is for her, it can’t be altogether pleasant for Ethan, especially at the rate at which he’s been gaining weight — and, she hopes, the rate at which he’ll continue. His soft stomach sags over his waistband now, hugged on either side by his braces — suspenders, Ethan calls them — and his hips and thighs have widened into what she can only describe as a pear shape. Even his upper arms strain the sleeves of his shirts, and from what she’s gathered, he looks most comfortable in the soft, less structured clothes he sleeps in, fewer snug seams to bite into his plump flesh.

Ethan raises his head slightly, his warm brown eyes heavy-lidded. “Actually, I was going to ask you about that.”

“About finding a tailor?” she asks, tracing circles on his stomach over his undershirt.

“No, about — maybe this is foolish, I’m not sure.”

Vanessa, curiosity piqued, cocks her head. “Yes?”

“I wanted to ask you,” he says, stomach jumping with a hiccup, “if that’s something you could do, with your … abilities. It’d save us a number of trips into town, and it might be easier if I keep growing.”

“Oh,” she says, surprised. “I’m not sure. I’ve never tried to — my powers have never seemed domestically inclined, you understand. Far more repelling the devil than darning socks. But … I’m sure there are spells or some such for it. Surely someone else with these powers has existed with a much more mundane fate than I.”

“Just something to think about,” he says. “And call me crazy, but I’d enjoy being at your mercy a hell of a lot more than some smug fellow with something disparaging to say.”

Vanessa laughs. “I’ll see what I can find.”

“Perfect,” he says, eyes closed again. “And — Vanessa?”

“Yes?”

“You can touch,” he says with a drowsy smile. “I don’t mind.”

“I am touching,” says Vanessa, drawing circles.

“You know what I mean,” he says, taking her hand gently and slipping it beneath the cotton of his undershirt. “This is hardly the most indecent thing about everything else we’ve been up to.”

“I suppose,” she says, with the barest minimum amount of proper hesitation. He’s so soft that her mind whites out the instant her fingertips make contact with the plush fat at his waist. Ethan exhales with something that sounds like pleasure.

“Yeah, that’s it,” he murmurs. “Help me get up to bed? You can stay a while if you’d like.”

“May I touch you again?”

Ethan’s lips curve into a smile. “Of course.”

—

Ethan’s weight climbs steadily, what with all the good meals he’s receiving at the club and Vanessa’s own supplementary stream of baked goods and leftovers. By the time he’s reached twenty-one stone, barely any of his clothes fit him comfortably, everything straining or creaking or on the verge of bursting. His shirts no longer span his heavy waist, and most of his pants are threatening to lose their buttons — or worse, their seams — when confronted with the expanse of his hips and backside. Even the inseams of his trousers are beginning to pill from how heavily his thighs rub together. And, of course, the constraints of his clothes make movement more uncomfortable, so he grows more sedentary as he eats, loath to test the limits of his closet any further.

Vanessa, for her part, has been keeping her nose to the grindstone, spending hours in Malcolm’s library with every vaguely supernatural tome she can find to see if there’s some ritual she can tweak to serve their needs. She longs for the wealth of knowledge stowed in the cabin on the moors — surely Joan knew some way to expand clothing for use in maternity or rheumatism — but it would take days to get out there, and she’s not at all sure that she’d prefer to go alone, and Ethan is quite involved in his work at the club, so — she reads. Evening after evening, as Ethan works through his post-dinner meal or as she waits for him to return home, she makes attempts on a basket of rags she sweet-talked out of Sembene, but nothing useful has emerged yet.

“Why are you still eating like this?” she asks Ethan suddenly, frustrated after a promising charm results in nothing but split cloth. “You’re well beyond the weight minimum, and they’re feeding you exceptionally well at the club. Surely it would be easier to slow your intake?”

Ethan shrugs and catches a hiccup in his fist. “The club’s great for maintaining my size, but there’s one pretty notable downside.”

Vanessa waits, one slim eyebrow arched.

“You’re not there with me,” Ethan says, as if it should be obvious. “Sure, it’s great eating these huge gourmet meals and all, but watching you get hot and bothered about it’s half the fun. If you don’t mind my saying so.”

Vanessa almost laughs. “You’re doing this on my account?”

Ethan grins. “I mean, I’m doing some for the vampire job. But I realized some time ago that now that I’m in at the club, I probably don’t need to keep eating at quite this capacity. But you make such cute faces when I do. And then you asked if you could touch me, and I wasn’t going to say no to that —”

“You’re unbelievable,” says Vanessa, though she’s laughing. “You wouldn’t even need a tailor so badly if you weren’t so inclined to play the wanton.”

Something changes in Ethan’s grin, from good-natured to almost coy. “I don’t know if I can stop myself now,” he teases. “I’ve got quite the appetite to satisfy.”

With some difficulty, he sits up straighter, his belly rolling into his lap. He’s quite fat now, and she never tires of how it colors his movements, how he’s grown aware of how to spread his legs to give himself more room to bloat, how it takes him a couple of tries to lever himself off the sofa when he’s overfull. Tonight he’s made prodigious work of the leftover mince pies and custard tarts Vanessa squirreled away for him after dinner, and she can see his bloat high at the crest of his stomach, before it gives way to softness. His trousers are unbuttoned, his sweater rucked up above his waistband for comfort, and he looks so deliciously debauched and overfed that she just wants to shove something else in his mouth.

“Yes,” says Vanessa, regarding with a cool remove that she hopes comes off as flirtatious rather than off-putting. “I think you’re far too gone to stop now. How could you deny yourself, after so much indulgence? You’d hardly last a day without stuffing yourself just to feel sated.”

Ethan whines, pausing with his whiskey halfway to his lips. “And where’d you get so good at that kind of talk, huh? All those books on witchcraft?”

“No, these are my own virtues, I’m afraid,” she returns wryly. “Though I will confess to finding you bewitching. Especially at that size, with something in that pretty mouth of yours.”

Ethan coughs mid-sip. “Miss Ives! And here I thought you were some kind of proper lady.”

“Oh, you know me better than that,” she says, abandoning her basket of rags and squeezes herself beside him on the chaise. “What can I say,” she murmurs, tracing the slope of his stomach into his lap. “You bring it out in me. There’s just something about a large, strong man such as yourself completely at the mercy of his appetite — his animal instincts, as it were — until his penchant for excess becomes so evident that he can no longer hide it.”

Ethan’s breathing is shallow in a way she suspects isn’t entirely from the glut of his diet. “I have put on a bit of weight, haven’t I?”

Vanessa exhales raggedly. “A bit?”

“Vanessa?” calls Sir Malcolm from upstairs, and both of them freeze. “What are you still doing up?”

With practiced speed, Vanessa yanks the blanket from the back of the chaise and tosses it over Ethan’s bulging midsection. Ethan straightens as much as he can, one hand pressed to his protesting stomach, and schools his face into a neutral expression. By the time Malcolm looms in the doorway of the sitting room, they’re both arranged naturally in separate chairs, nothing but their glasses of liquor on the coffee table.

“Mr. Chandler and I were just discussing some of his findings from the club,” she says, mostly smoothly. “The vampire faction seems quite well-embedded in the social fabric of London, so we’ve been puzzling out possible motives or next moves.”

“Ah,” says Malcolm, eyes sliding between them with a tinge of suspicion. “Shall I join you?”

Ethan stifles a belch. “Just wrapping up, Sir Malcolm. I can barely keep my eyes open.”

“And besides,” Vanessa hurries to add, “we haven’t come up with much, anyway. Better for us all to get some sleep and resume in the morning.”

“All right,” says Malcolm slowly. “In the morning, then. I’ll have Sembene call on our doctor and Mr. Lyle.”

Vanessa nods and smiles benignly, holding her face stiffly until Malcolm turns back to the stairs. The moment he’s out of sight, her gaze meets Ethan’s, wide and stimulated.

“My room?” he offers in a low voice. “Ten minutes?”

“Yes,” agrees Vanessa, with perhaps too much fervor. “Ten minutes. There’s still more custard in the icebox. Shall I bring it?”

Ethan raises an eyebrow. “Do you have to ask?”

—

Finally, she finds something suitable in a book full of cloaked language around keeping resources plentiful at sea, what seems to be a spell for lengthening rope indefinitely, and then something supplementary in a compendium of medical spellwork she recognizes from Joan’s own collection. If she can figure out some way to combine the two, if it works the way she guesses it will, then she should be able to charm Ethan’s clothes to expand with him.

And — Vanessa is loath to take the Lord’s name in vain, but by God, does he need it. He’s fairly overflowing his trousers, his stomach hanging heavily over his waistbands and untucking his shirts and sweaters with its sheer heft. She estimates he’s put on at least half a stone since they last weighed him, maybe a bit more. His bulk jiggles when he moves, and he seems to always be a bit out of breath now. Probably with a bit of conditioning, they could get him back into shape despite his size — and perhaps they should, considering his role in their work — but for now, while he’s simply gathering information, Vanessa relishes the little markers of how much bigger his body is now, how unused to his new weight. She loves to watch him navigate Grandage Place, with its bevy of furniture, antiques, and end tables; his stomach bumps trinkets and vases he clearly thought he made of a berth around, his hips catch in the narrow spaces between furniture pieces, his backside spreads over more and more of the sofa. If he’s not careful, his belly will soon bump the dinner table from his seat.

She meets him in his room one evening as he’s coming back from washing up, hair damp and stomach still overfull from dinner and dessert. “Miss Ives,” he says, a note of surprise lingering in his voice, and she smiles up at him.

“Do you have a moment? I think I may have found a solution to your — clothing problems.”

“For you?” he says, returning her smile. “I’ve got all night.”

She instructs him to put on one of the shirts that no longer fits him, and he stands before her in his undershirt, his collared shirt hanging unbuttoned on either side of his gut.

“If I try to button it, it’ll burst before you have time to say your abracadabra or what have you,” he warns, and she tugs it around his belly as far as it will go, which isn’t much.

“All right. I had hopes, but I suppose you’ve outgrown them a bit.”

She has him stand before her and then she balls the edges of his shirt tightly in her fists, murmuring the words she pulled from the books and focusing all her intention in his direction. She imagines Ethan growing plumper, plumper still, and his clothes growing with him, wrapping the curves and bulges of his body with properly fitted menswear that will never strain or tug or burst.

When she opens her eyes, the shirt hangs undeniably longer around Ethan’s plump waist. Carefully, she pulls both sides together, and while the fabric hugs his round belly, it certainly fits. She’s able to do up every button with a bit of room to spare, and she can’t help but beam as she looks up at Ethan.

“That’s better, isn’t it?” she asks, and he grins back at her.

“You’re magical, Miss Ives. Not that that’s anything new, but it does bear repeating.” He smoothes a hand down the curve of his belly and admires himself in the mirror. “I don’t think even the tailor could do as smart a job as that.”

“Tomorrow we can go through the rest of your clothes,” she says, stepping behind him in the mirror. Gently, he takes her arms and pulls them around his waist, and she presses her cheek to his broad, soft back, eyes slipping shut with bliss.

“Now, Miss Ives,” he teases, and she savors the vibration of his voice against her. “You’re not at all worried that this gives me carte blanche to keep satisfying that gluttonous appetite of mine, are you?”

“Not in the least,” says Vanessa into his back. “In fact, I encourage it.”

Ethan grins into the mirror. “You’re on.”

#feedist kinktober #feedist kinktober 2024 #my fic #my writing #penny dreadful #ethan x vanessa #chubby ethan

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elizmanderson · 11 months ago

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2023 wrap-up, part 4

click here for part 1 | click here for part 2 | click here for part 3

pole fitness

aka my new obsession

shortly before my debut novel released, I went to a showcase at a friend's dance studio. the studio has a lot of body diversity, so the pole dances included lots of plus size women looking sexy and confident as hell, which had me feeling like "damn I want that"

afterward, I told my friend I was thinking about trying pole aaaaaaaaaand she immediately bought me a drop-in class so I had to stop thinking and skip to trying lol

I'm grateful for that, because honestly? that's what I needed. I'm convinced I would've tried it eventually, but it would've taken at least another six months of waffling

video ID: a young white person in glasses, a teal tank top, and red booty shorts, with dark hair in a bun, walking around a pole and pulling themself up onto the pole so they look like they're sitting in an invisible chair beside it. she straightens her legs, turns her body, and pulls her legs back up so now she's going backwards in the invisible chair. finally, they swing their legs around straight on either side of the pole and let go with one hand before swinging off the pole. music is Vanessa Carlton's Thousand Miles. end ID.

p.s. you can't tell in the video but there is text on my tank top over the left breast that says "stet for voice, bitch"

anyway, I've been doing pole for about eight months now and I just *anime fist clench* love it so much oh my god. it's the first sport I've ever loved, the first workout I've ever been determined to get to rather than looking for excuses to skip it, and this is the best about my body I've probably ever felt.

and I have a community at the studio! like I went to the holiday party and I wasn't sure about it because I didn't think my friend would be there, but I made some new friends and had a great time ♥

click here to see more pole videos on my instagram. officially, it's my author instagram. unofficially, I'm far more consistent in posting weekly pole videos than I am in posting book stuff lolol

#2023 wrap up #2023 wrapped #wrap up #pole fitness

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the-invisible-queer · 6 months ago

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HELLO I'VE DISCOVERED THAT YOU CAN SUBMIT ANONYMOUSLY BY LOGGING OUT OF TUMBLR so now we're finally back, with another wholly unnecessary and novel-length timeline of a Jonas Brother’s hoe ass antics. I almost didn’t do a Nick timeline after the Joe one, for reasons I’ll explain when I get there, but like I said I needed something to distract me/kill some time and writing out an extensive history of this man’s Nonsense turned out to be great for that, so here we are. I’m sorry so much of this focuses on the Disney love triangle (my preteen ass was HOOKED on that soap opera and apparently a lot of it has just been dormant in my brain ever since) and even more sorry it’s INSANELY long. Though at the end of the day it’s not my fault that this man’s teenage years alone were such a goddamn mess that they require extensive lore to fully explain so. Blame Nick for all of this is what I’m saying.

Same disclaimer as with Joe’s, this is all just stuff I remember with no research or anything, so I’m sure some of it is probably wrong and very sure some things were left out. Also I had to kind of weirdly switch up my formatting here since Nick’s first two relationships were extremely…entangled...for a while and couldn’t really be cleanly divided into “every girl gets her own bullet point” the way Joe’s timeline could, so bear with me:

Nick and Miley started dating in 2006, when they were both 13 years old. They were allegedly introduced by Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgens (which is ICONIC honestly, like the passing of the Official Disney Power Couple torch) and apparently became attached at the hip right away. Here are some random bits of Niley 1.0 lore that I remember:

Nick once claimed that Franklin (who was like five at the time) also had a crush on Miley before they met and “tried to beat him up” when he found out they’d started dating. This is genuinely one of my favorite bits of Jonas lore ever lol like please that’s so funny and cute

At some point in like 2007 Miley was papped holding her phone in such a way that the background was clearly visible, and it was a pic of her and Nick kissing, which was hilariously major news on the tween gossip sites back in the day since they were still playing the “we’re just best friends!” game at the time; the same thing happened again when she was heavily photographed at an event with “I <3 Nick” written on her hand. At some point one has to assume she was doing this on purpose.

In literally like the mid-2010s Nick finally admitted that Miley was his first kiss (which, no shit??? Incredibly funny that he played coy about that info for years when like bro, you were 12 and homeschooled before her, literally who else would you have been kissing), and said he was embarrassed to realize later that he kissed her right after eating something with a bunch of onions on it and his breath probably smelled terrible.

According to a 2007 interview that I still vividly remember to this day, Miley and a certain “friend” (there’s Disney’s favorite word again) dressed up as Sonny and Cher for Halloween 2006. The fact that not a single photo of this has ever surfaced nearly two decades later remains one of the greatest disappointments of my life.

Niley 1.0 lasted roughly a year and a half: according to Miley’s autobiography, they started dating in June 2006 and broke up in December 2007, with one short ‘break’ at some unspecified point in between. During said break Miley wrote the song G.N.O. and a few others, and Nick wrote S.O.S., Still In Love With You and possibly some other songs I’m forgetting. They also worked together a lot during their relationship, filming the boys’ iconic Hannah Montana episode and then going on tour together with the boys opening for her on the Best of Both Worlds tour, which awkwardly was still going on when they broke up. Miley claimed they ended things mutually because they were just too busy to manage a relationship at the time, never getting to spend much time together because they were both so busy with work, and had started fighting a lot from all the stress they were under. Speculation abounded about whether or not that was truly the reason, especially once Selena hit the scene so quickly and the “you love me you like her” of it all, but it was the official story regardless.

Immediately post-breakup Miley dyed her hair black as a rebellion against Nick, who apparently liked her to have blonde highlights when they were together, and Nick seemingly coped with the breakup in a different way because rumors about him and Selena started cropping up as early as January 2008. One such rumor I remember involved them allegedly flirting at the Best of Both Worlds movie premiere, which is so hilariously shameless that I could easily believe it of Baby Fuckboy Nick despite there being, as far as I’m aware, zero actual evidence supporting it. Regardless of when it actually started though, by I want to say spring of 2008 Nick and Selena were definitely a thing and Miley was definitely mad about it. It was at this point that this entire mess truly started derailing into the endlessly chaotic trainwreck that captivated tweens all over the world for the next two years.

Very rough timeline of Nelena 1.0/general 2008 triangle lore, listed in the probably incorrect order that I vaguely remember things happening in when I was like 12:

Miley and her friend Mandy uploaded an episode of their “The Miley and Mandy Show” Youtube series pretty obviously making fun of Selena and Demi, who at the time were very close besties which just made Demi also guilty by association I guess. This video was the official start of The Feud between Miley and Selena (and their respective sidekicks for a while). Shortly after this they uploaded another video ‘apologizing’ for causing drama, saying it was all in good fun and the girls were all friends; this apology was blatantly insincere and nobody believed it.

Private photos Miley’d sent to Nick during their relationship, clearly intended for his eyes only, were leaked online after her computer was hacked. We don’t need to discuss this in any further detail as it was really gross and invasive, especially considering Miley was very much a minor at the time, but it was a notable event within the love triangle lore so I couldn’t not mention it.

The Burnin’ Up music video dropped, featuring Selena as Nick’s love interest. Fans everywhere were SHOOK by this, both because it seemed like much more of an official relationship confirmation than Disney “We’re Just Friends” Channel stars were normally allowed to give AND because fans quickly started putting together that Burnin’ Up was likely written about Miley, who’d worn the famous high heels/red dress combo commonly thought to have inspired it to an event with Nick long before Selena was even in the picture at all. The drama! The mess! To this day I would love to know if this casting choice was Nick’s decision or if it was Disney’s – it was heavily speculated that Disney sometimes escalated the love triangle drama on purpose, either to capitalize on it for publicity or to distance Nick’s image from Miley’s after the photo scandal by associating him with Good Girl™ Selena instead – but it was very entertaining either way. All of this was truly great television tbh.

The 7 Things music video also dropped, featuring a lot of very blatant references to Nick and completely gagging all of us again before we’d even finished gagging over Burnin’ Up. (I genuinely don’t remember now if these two songs/videos actually premiered like a week apart or not, but that’s definitely what it felt like at the time lol. Just new bits of wild drama dropping every other day like these damn kids thought they were Kendrick and Drake. It was insane to live through as part of the target demographic and tbh this whole experience probably rewired my brain permanently and is why I’m like this.) Dissecting this song and video kept fans busy for a good while; I still remember how super smart my friends and I felt when we realized the melody of 7 Things was just the melody of Hello Beautiful sped up.

Kevin, of all people, popped up somewhere wearing a “Team Demi and Selena” shirt in reference to the ongoing feud between them and Miley + Mandy. He of course denied that it was referencing this and IIRC tried to claim it had something to do with like a bowling team that Demi and Selena were supposedly starting??? Okay, Kevin. Again, I’d love to know if Disney orchestrated that or what bc otherwise what was his grown ass doing jumping into beef between a bunch of like 15-year-old girls to begin with lmao

At some point Nick was directly asked if 7 Things was about him and said it couldn’t be because his friends aren’t jerks, which is somehow the funniest possible answer he could have given so props to him for that one honestly

Miley performed 7 Things live at some event that all the other Disney kids were at, and during the song she walked into the audience to where Selena was and they sang a line or two together. Around this time (I can’t remember if it was also at this event or a different one) the three Disney girls took pictures together and Demi and Selena took pictures with the boys, but Miley avoided them. I remember there being speculation around this time that Nick and Selena might have been on a break or at least having issues, bc of how very suddenly the two girls appeared to start getting along and bc of Selena lowkey shading her own boyfriend? But I have no idea if that was true or not. Nick was probably rattled either way though lmao

Miley’s album Breakout dropped, obviously featuring a lot of songs about Nick but, infinitely more unexpected than that, also featuring a message at the very end of the dedication page thanking ‘Prince Charming’ for inspiring the album and saying “I loved you then, I love you now, and I’ll love you always.” Fans reached levels of gagged so unprecedented that one girl I personally knew jumped the Team Nelena ship and converted over this.

JB’s album A Little Bit Longer dropped (again, what felt like very very shortly after but may not have actually been idk, I’m not about to look up release dates for this) also obviously featuring a lot of songs about Miley – and ones spanning their entire relationship, at that. I don’t think I truly realized until years later how funny it actually was that Lovebug and Can’t Have You were literally released at the exact same time lol.

At some point in the midst of all this 15-year-old Miley started dating a 20-year-old underwear model, which always creeped me out even as a literal child. Not long into their relationship said pedo boyfriend took the tween gossip world by storm by dressing up as Nick for Halloween, which at the time I found somewhat funny despite my reservations with him, but looking back on that as an adult it’s sooooo…that kid is barely sixteen. Why are you dating this teenager and mocking her also teenage ex over their messy teenage beef that does not concern your grown adult ass literally at all AND ALSO WHY THE FUCK AREN’T YOU IN PRISON. Anyway. 12-year-old me always lowkey tried to avoid learning anything about this pedo since he creeped me out, so I really don’t know when exited the picture, but he must not have lasted super long because…

In roughly early 2009, Nick and Selena broke up. Just like last time it did NOT take Nick long to bounce straight back to his other option and in no time at all he and Miley were fueling rumors, publicly flirting and suddenly hanging out again – the iconic lunch date where they were seen alone together for the first time since their breakup and where Nick embarrassed himself by getting into a fender bender while driving his ex around lmao happened during this time period. I remember that Selena spent a lot of time publicly angsting and vagueposting about all of this on Twitter, but can’t really recall the specifics of that anymore. It was clear she was going through it though.

Niley 2.0/general mid-2009 lore highlights, again probably out of order somewhere (also for the full effect imagine all of these things happening literally back-to-back within the span of like two months):

Miley’s book released, suddenly revealing a ton of Niley 1.0 lore all at once. A lot of fans who met Nick around this time got him to sign the ‘Prince Charming’ chapter page of their copy, which admittedly was very funny and something I’m still surprised he actually did.

Before the Storm was written and recorded somewhere in all of this.

Miley, Selena, Demi and the boys all filmed the Send It On music video and its accompanying Disney Channel ads, including several clips the three girls had to do together in which it was painfully obvious that Miley and Selena couldn’t stand each other and poor Demi looked like she’d rather be eating glass than sitting there between them. Candids from the set dropped showing Nick appearing playful and flirty with both girls during filming, despite Niley being pretty obviously back on by this point and him and Selena still seeming to be on bad terms otherwise?

Joe opened his big mouth on Larry King and accidentally confirmed Niley 2.0 despite Nick trying desperately to avoid this, surprising no one but greatly amusing everyone (except Nick).

Nick flew out to visit Miley while she was filming The Last Song in Georgia, where paps caught potato-quality yet still iconic pics of them making out on a jet ski.

Miley made a surprise appearance to sing Before the Storm with Nick for opening night of the boys’ tour, which remains to this day the only time they’ve ever performed it live as a duet.

Selena Gomez & The Scene dropped a song called I Won’t Apologize which (on top of just dragging Nick for filth in general) pretty obviously referenced the love triangle, basically saying he’d tried to turn her into Miley or at least that she’d felt like she needed to turn into Miley to make him happy, and also seemed to imply there was overlap between Nelena 1.0 and Niley 2.0. At the time this last bit was very scandalous lore for young fans to digest, even though in hindsight that was really like. The least surprising revelation ever lmao. ALSO this song was meant to be like an empowered I Don’t Need No Man anthem, with her being all “you don’t deserve me” and “I won’t go back again” which is just…genuinely so fucking funny in context. Spoiler alert: she sure as fuck will go back again.

Then at some point that summer Miley got into her own insane love triangle which somehow seemed even messier than the first one, and after a few weeks of general chaos and confusion (apparently so confusing that even Miley herself walked away unsure of some of the exact dates involved) things eventually culminated with her and Nick apparently breaking up again and her stepping out with co-star Liam Hemsworth not long after. Mess upon mess. I very vaguely remember that in the months following Niley 2.0.’s death Nick was spotted two or three times with…some girl who had like a bit part in one of the Camp Rock movies, I think? I want to say Courtney or Chloe something but again I’m not looking shit up for this. To this day I’m not really clear on if there was anything to that or if it was just a rumor bc he was seen near a girl during his first time ever being single for more than like a month, but if he and Random Third Girl actually did have anything it must have been very brief because…

Did Nick learn from the experience of seemingly being on the other end of a love triangle, as one of the two people being played with at once by the third, that this feels like shit and maybe he shouldn’t do it to girls anymore? NOPE! By late 2009 he’d already run straight back to Selena, who happily took him right back as if she hadn’t just spent the last year publicly whacking him all over Twitter and in her music. God every single one of these kids was a fucking disaster GIRL WHERE’S THE SELF-RESPECT WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT ENTIRE DISS TRACK YOU WROTE

Anyway. Nelena 2.0 and general 2010 lore highlights, once again probably out of order but oh well:

Miley was very blatantly pissed when Nelena reunited and publicly shaded both of them several times, despite the facts that 1) she actively had a boyfriend at the time and 2) by all appearances she was the one who’d dumped Nick for someone else anyway, because apparently her not wanting Nick did not mean Selena could have him. Okay girl. One of these occasions that I remember being HUGE gossip was when she changed the lyrics in 7 Things to say Nick’s brothers were jerks, rather than his friends; it remains unclear to this day what, if anything, the brothers did around this time to suddenly warrant their own specific lashing.

Nick Jonas & The Administration’s album Who I Am dropped, featuring several songs commonly thought to be about each of the girls, but I don’t think Nick ever explicitly confirmed any of them.

For some occasion (maybe Valentine’s Day?) Nick, nothing if not dramatic, built some sort of elaborate rose garden at Selena’s house as a surprise – likely a reference to the NJ&TA song Rose Garden which was allegedly about her. Roughly a year later after they’d broken up again Selena would do her own on-stage lyric change in reference to this, bitterly saying something like “the roses you built me were only made of plastic.”

Justin Bieber made his first appearance in Selena’s life while she was still with Nick. While there’s no evidence that anything beyond some mild public flirting happened between them until after Nelena 2.0 ended, him showing up in this timeline at all is still just…incredibly fucking funny to me. A THIRD love triangle has somehow hit the fucking towers.

Nick performed the song Stay for the first time, setting off a fandom debate over its muse that still persists to this day. Some think it was about Selena because they were together at the time and because she was present and seen crying in the audience when he performed it; others think it was about Miley because she also had a song called Stay that Nick’s seemed to directly respond to in a lot of ways, and because Selena’s tears as he sang it didn’t really look like particularly happy ones. Many OG fans still have passionate opinions about this today, and we will almost certainly never find out which group is right.

Nelena 2.0 was ultimately rather brief, not lasting more than 3 or 4 months into 2010 I’m pretty sure, and with its death the official Disney love triangle era finally concluded as Selena jumped out of the frying pan into the fire left Nick behind to enter her Bieber era, which by all appearances was also a giant chaotic mess because apparently none of these kids ever did anything that wasn’t. It was at this point that Nick finally started to have confirmed relationships with people who weren’t the same two girls over and over, so we can finally try out the relationship bullet points now.

At some point that couldn’t have been more than a couple months at most post-Nelena, in like mid-2010, Nick started dating Samantha Barks whom he met while they were preparing to star in the Les Mis 25th Anniversary Concert together. They were pretty quiet about it, and I was also hyperfixating on something non-JB at the moment and not super interested in general, so I’ve never known too much about this and am honestly not sure if there was even any more public info to know. As far as I remember this relationship was also not particularly long-lived, lasting like 5-6 months maybe, but also didn’t seem to involve any public drama which was a new and refreshing change for Nick.

I’m really fuzzy on the order here but somewhere in 2010, right around the time Jonas L.A. started airing and their characters were will-they-or-won’t-they-ing and then dating, it was rumored that Nick and Nicole Anderson were together. Most fans never believed this (I personally still don’t) as with the timing it seemed like a very obvious ploy for show publicity, but to this day there are some truthers out there who insist something happened between them. If it did then it must have either been very short-lived or overlapped with either Selena or Samantha, if not both – but by this point it was clear Baby Fuckboy Nick was no stranger to his relationships lowkey overlapping so honestly who fucking knows.

GUESS WHO’S BACK, BACK AGAIN. MILEY’S BACK, TELL A FRIEND. Niley 3.0, which happened in I want to say very early 2011, was Nick and Miley’s briefest and last obvious attempt at…something. It was never clear if they were really back together during this period or just hooking up or what, but they were definitely doing something notable enough to include here. (Bonus: Miley was definitely also still being messy with Liam, who by this point she’d also already been on-again off-again with like twice, at the exact same time as this all this was happening because of course she was. Why would any of these damn kids ever have had one unhealthy situationship going at a time when they could have two?) They were pretty quiet about things this time and I also still wasn’t paying super close attention, so I don’t remember much aside from a few spottings of them together and a lot of vague Twitter flirting, and it didn’t seem to last longer than a few months. ALSO there was a really weird incident during this time where the day after an event they both attended, where they were rumored to have been very flirty and left in the same car, several articles came out alleging that Nick and/or his car had been spotted outside Miley’s house that night or the next morning…and then all of these articles just disappeared all at once. Like they were literally scrubbed from the internet, leaving only some gossip site comments from the young fans who’d happened to see them (including me which is how I vividly remember this) as the only recorded evidence that they ever existed at all. The most accepted theory for this bizarre occurrence is that it was true, there were pictures that someone was threatening to publish, and Disney, not wanting to clean up a “purity ring-touting teenage star spends the night with girl he’s not even officially dating” scandal and beyond rich enough to take the hit, just paid everyone off to make the entire situation go away by gaslighting everyone who had seen the original articles. So. That was a thing that happened once.

In like spring 2011 Nick started dating Delta Goodrem, who at the time was 26 or 27 and very fresh out of a broken engagement with another grown ass adult while he was barely 18 with no relationship experience outside of at most a small handful of teenage girls around his age. This relationship always made me uncomfortable at the time and if anything makes me much more uncomfortable now that I’m an adult, so I intentionally did not follow it at all then and am not about to seek out any information about it now either. All I really know is that it did seem to be relatively short-lived, which I can only imagine was probably a good thing.

At some point in like 2012 or early 2013, Nick and Rita Ora were seen talking at a couple of events. They looked kind of flirty but I don’t recall anyone thinking there was anything to it beyond them maybe hooking up once until he namedropped her in the song What Do I Mean, seemingly implying she’d burned him in some way…but when Rita was asked about it, she said she was super confused by the song because they were always just friends and she had no idea he liked her. Apparently she confronted him about it and he admitted he must not have done a good job expressing his feelings, and I guess it was all some kind of weird misunderstanding between them that he...made no attempts to clarify with her before publicly calling her out in an angry song. Alright then?

Olivia Culpo showed up in I want to say mid-2013. For full disclosure I was already not super into Nick when their relationship started, and after he broke up the band and then picked up his solo frat boy Jealous persona that I was just very very not into – it reminded me of my controlling over-possessive ex and grossed me out – I pretty much completely lost interest in him and just stopped following him at all for a few years, so I honestly missed most of their relationship entirely. Mostly all I remember of Olivia is that she wasn’t well-liked in the fandom (at least not in the beginning when I was still paying attention) because she and her family and friends were…incredibly blatant about very much enjoying the attention that her dating Nick brought them, we’ll say, and also quickly developed a reputation for being rude to fans both in person and online. Nick largely seemed happy with her though and they lasted…around two years? I think? She presumably inspired much of his early solo discography and I’m pretty sure appeared in at least one music video. Again, creepy possessive solo Nick gave me the ick, so I wasn’t consuming any of this and only know what I picked up through osmosis while keeping up with the fandom just enough to somewhat keep tabs on Joe and Kevin. (I do vaguely remember seeing a lot of discussion among fans about Nick’s then-bestie Demi not seeming to like Olivia/being subtly snarky about her on multiple occasions, which…hoo boy we’ll get to all THAT in a minute.) I want to say they broke up at some point in 2015. I feel like there should be more things to note in this section considering I’m pretty sure this was his longest continuous relationship until his marriage, but if there are I simply am not the person to note them because I just truly don’t know crap about this era of Nick’s life.

Continuing on from that, there was still at least a good few years post-Nolivia where I wasn’t keeping up with Nick at all, so other than the next few bullet points (that I learned about mostly via keeping up with the other person involved and not him) I really have no clue what he was doing. At some point he was connected to Kendall Jenner, and then I think Kate Hudson??? I have zero idea when these relationships happened, how long either of them lasted, or if they were even relationships at all or just rumors I saw on my infrequent trips through Jonas Twitter. This is why I almost didn’t write a Nick timeline to begin with, because there’s this whole big chunk of time that I’m just blank on so there’s definitely stuff missing. Sorry.

GUESS WHO ELSE IS BACK! BACK AGAIN!!! In I want to say 2015 there was a super weird little moment where Nick and Selena hung out together at some event, looking a little flirty, and then like a few days later he dropped the horny song Area Code out of nowhere and liked a bunch of tweets implying it was about Selena. Clearly this led to nothing, so I can’t count whatever this was as Nelena 3.0, but it was still notable and also very funny so I’m including it anyway. Jury’s still out on if they hooked up that one night and the song was written in response or if they didn’t hook up but he wanted to and put the song out as a request to be booty called; I’m equally amused by it either way. Maybe a tiny bit of subtlety next time, Nicholas.

This is kinda out of order but while we’re talking about the Disney days rising from the dead, Miley also popped back up a few times in surprisingly recent years, especially every time she and Liam broke up because Nick was apparently still perfectly eager to be her back-up plan. I feel like roughly 2015 and early 2018 both had periods where those two were suddenly interacting much more than usual, mostly via social media flirting that made observant fans wonder if something else was going on in private. Obviously we have no way to really know if anything was actually happening or if Nick commenting heart emojis all over every pic she posted was an attempt to make something happen that went nowhere, but either way it’s still enough to include here. (Also I didn’t mention it when we were on 2012 but obligatory shoutout to Nick performing Wedding Bells for the first time after Miley got engaged, which was genuinely ballsy as hell and a lowkey insane thing to do. Gagged the absolute hell out of literally everyone.)

Okay, now we have to talk about Demi. No one truly knows what exactly happened between these two, and unless Demi one of them decides to spill the tea in a memoir or something someday we probably never will, but whatever happened was definitely notable enough to be listed here. Basically they were very close friends for a long time and over that time other feelings definitely developed on at least Demi’s part, which was long suspected but finally confirmed in I think late 2017 when she dropped the songs Ruin the Friendship and Only Forever – both of which were clearly and unsubtly about Nick (No I Can’t Keep Denying Every Minute I think of you!), despite her refusing to outright confirm this no matter how many interviewers bluntly brought it up. She also claimed that the person they were written about had written songs about her too; many theories exist about this to this day but, as far as I’m aware, no one knows for sure which of Nick’s songs are about Demi or if these alleged songs were ever even publicly released in the first place. I can’t remember if Nick ever publicly responded to this whole ‘my best friend just told the whole world she’s both in love with and horny for me’ scandal or not (I kind of want to say he just ignored all of it and acted like nothing ever happened lol which…valid way to deal with that situation, I guess) but they did seem to spend a bit less time together right after that and it’s often speculated to have been the beginning of the end for their friendship. I’m not sure when exactly things exploded but I remember she publicly complained about not being invited to his wedding in late 2018, after unfollowing him on social media I think weeks or months before; there was seemingly a bit of drama between her and the boys when she left their formerly-shared team/manager and they stayed; and by 2020 she said in an interview that she no longer kept in contact with any of the boys. Two unreleased Demi songs have leaked in the years since that seemed to add more context to their falling out: Ain’t No Friend, which basically said he betrayed or abandoned her when she needed him most, and Big Little Lies, which seemed to confirm that there was something romantic between them at some point, or at the very least that Nick had made empty promises of something romantic happening in the future, and also implied he didn’t tell her about his engagement before the public found out and…kind of confirmed that the news was hard for her (I don’t really want to touch this too much but a lot of speculation exists that Nick getting engaged and Demi almost fatally overdosing like a few days later were directly related events). As far as I can tell they still don’t seem to be on speaking terms today, or at least they never interact publicly despite Demi having positive public interactions with Joe and Kevin since then, but apparently she did go to the boys’ Remember This tour in 2021? So. There’s that I guess.

In what must have been like April 2018, there was a series of pap pics of Nick kissing some totally random girl in Australia or somewhere after he like helped her when she fell off her bike or something???? Idk. The whole thing was very strange and I remember a lot of people speculating that it must be staged bc both the pictures and the whole situation were just so bizarre. As far as I know the girl was never identified and never popped back up with Nick again. Also this was very literally the last thing I heard that Nick was up to until literally like two months later when I heard he was suddenly engaged to a completely different person, which was a fucking insane thing to experience. This man’s life is such an enigma.

Anyway in like summer 2018 he got engaged to Priyanka, who I guess he’d met at some previous time when I wasn’t looking, and then a few months later they got married and now they have a kid. There’s…not much else for me to say about that really lol. The fun of these things is truly in recounting the past messiness, not the current longterm relationship everyone already knows.

SO WE’RE FINALLY DONE! That was absolutely ridiculous and I should be ashamed to have spent so much time on it but here it is. This actually was a really good distraction when I needed it but please feel free to judge me for possessing all this useless knowledge regardless lmao

#thank you for this deep dive into Nick's dating drama because HOLY SHIT

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also, uno reverse, book rec ask game questions 9, 22, 25, 48, 85, 89, 124, 131! feel free to pick and choose <3

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9. your favorite book of 2020

i can't remember what year i read most of my books, let alone years back, but upon some googling my dark vanessa by kate elizabeth russell was originally published that year and since i love that book, let's just say it was that one.

will say though for anyone considering reading it that as a warning, the ending isn't what most would find satisfying but it did make sense to me.

22. your favorite thriller

i don't read thriller as often as i would like to, to be honest. i usually get distracted by books from different genres (namely historical fiction). always open for recs though!

in the future for this genre i am looking forward to reading the paris apartment by lucy foley. i've been told that it's good.

25. a book by your favorite author

perhaps the easiest question i've ever been asked in my 20+ years of life. without a doubt this would be in the dream house by carmen maria machado. i've recommended this book + author countless times on my blog and irl for good reason; carmen is a master of her craft, and this was such a raw and intensely honest memoir.

there's a long list of content warnings as it dives deep into domestic abuse in a sapphic relationship so for anyone who would like to read it, please take care to check that ahead of time.

i think it's the most important thing i have ever, and will ever, read.

48. your favorite sci-fi novel

without a doubt this would be into the drowning deep by mira grant. this is about terrifying mermaids and sisterhood and is soooo atmospheric. it's a follow-up to the author's novella rolling in the deep, and i do think it needs to be read in order. lots of horror elements too. overall it's just a really enjoyable book.

i think i actually have a pdf of into the drowning deep saved somewhere on my laptop and can send it to anyone who would be interested.

85. your favorite book about magical realism

it's been a while but i want to say that the gilded wolves by roshani chokshi was magical realism??? possibly??? it was found family + heist + paris, 1889 + magic with a beautiful and diverse set of characters and touched on issues like ableism, anti-semitism and racism.

honestly just talking about it makes me want to reread it. i still need to get the sequel dkfj

really upped my standards for ya.

89. a book that disappointed you

...i don't like holly black's the cruel prince at all. i wanted to, but i couldn't get into it. i think she's a talented author though! this one was just a miss for me.

124. the book you're currently reading

house of hunger by alexis henderson.

this is a sapphic retelling of the blood countess; it's been described as kinda vampires, but not really and... yeah that's really what it is. it has the vampire aesthetic; one of the main characters has her teeth fashioned into a vampires' fangs and she drinks blood. but she's not a vampire. you know how in the past some ppl thought drinking or washing yourself with someone's blood was thought to be a cure for ailments or like. a fountain of youth type of situation?? that's what's happening here. very gothic and atmospheric and i am already planning on buying henderson's other book, the year of the witching.

131. tag somebody with whom you would want to buddy read a book

apologies in advance if any of you don't like being tagged! feel free to just lmk and i can remove your @. but oh my so many people on here would be fun to read with! i know @hexgh0ul and i seem to have very similar tastes in media (yellowjackets, interview with the vampire, dracula to name a few) so i feel like we could definitely find smth we'd both enjoy and have a good discussion on.

@waffleinator-inator is another one!!! maya has great taste and i already do really enjoy talking literature with her so buddy reading smth new to both of us would be fun <3

@ladytauria is someone i have exchanged recs with as well and another one with excellent taste in fiction so hmu sometime /hj

and ofc you as well, it turns out, since i'm learning today that we both really enjoy some of the same books, at least for ya which you're never too old for imo

i'd be happy with buddy reading with anyone though tbh i read a pretty wide variety and each mutual could be matched with something different :)

bookish asks

#ask games #this-was-a-terrible-idea #replies

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anoray · 1 year ago

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Quick thoughts after first two episodes of Ahsoka

I am determined to keep my expectations low and refrain from any pre-judging until I finish watching all the episodes. So these are just a few thoughts and questions that popped into my mind during Eps. 1 & 2.

Love the music score, it is wonderful so far. Although space rock always kind of takes me out of the space fantasy setting for some reason.

2. So we still have no idea where the heck Ahsoka was all those years before showing up to become Sabine's master? And why did Sabine put away her armor and helmet? I'm guessing/hoping we'll learn more about both of these things.

3. Meanwhile, I don't quite get the heavy emphasis on the Ahsoka/Sabine master and padawan thing when these two had zero interaction during Rebels, but I'll just stay neutral for now. It is a relief they made it clear Sabine is not suddenly and inexplicably talented with the Force. I do appreciate how they made the way Sabine cut her hair a nod to Kanan's own ceremony.

4. Are they saying Hera really thought Ezra was dead so that's why she has apparently never bothered to search for him all these years? BTW, where is Jacen? I do hope he and Zeb make more than cameo appearances.

5. Okay, this is just me being grumpy, but it would've been kind of nice if Ryder had included Kanan's name when talking about the dedication to the heroes of Lothal. He did help destroy Thrawn's Defender project after all.

6. Enjoying all the ancient lore, star maps, and puzzle pieces. Totally up my alley.

7. Thrawn was banished to another galaxy??? Did the Force tell the purrgil to take him there?

8. I love that Morgan Elsbeth has been revealed to be a Nightsister. (shades of Morgan le Fey?). But kinda scratching my head because I don't remember her appearing in any of the Thrawn novels and the show is implying there is a strong connection between them.

9. Not sure what to think of the fallen Jedi peeps or Inquisitor yet. Does Luke have any idea these guys are running around?

10. Chopper, you are perfect. If we get to see AP-5 and you argue, I will be most pleased.

11. Nothing against the live action actors, but I sure do miss Vanessa Marshall's voice as Hera and Ashley Eckstein as Ahsoka.

12. Last, but definitely not least, thank the Maker this show looks, sounds, and feels like Star Wars aka fun, plus it definitely honors the look of Rebels and TCW animation in many respects. I feel rather sorry for anyone who hasn't watched these shows because they missed a lot of back story. Loving all the droids, lightsabers, aliens, starships, clunky technology, and how about another round of applause for Kevin Kiner's music :)

#ahsoka #ahsoka spoilers #ahoska series #ahsoka series spoilers #please throw us some kanan crumbs #somewhere down the line #asking for a friend

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gooeyslime · 2 years ago

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As someone who over-analyses stuff to the point I need to memorise every single detail in every media I enjoy I decided to check the meanings/origins of the names of FNaF characters, to avoid any confusion/fights over which name is canon I'll use the ones that are confirmed by the games, no characters from the novels or names that most of the fandom agreed upon or the likes so no Evan and the likes, although I might make a follow-up with them later on to see how well they fit...

Let's start with the ones that I have little to say about, starting with Henry

So, ok, this doesn't really have a deep meaning or anything though in the novels Henry gets described as the total opposite, being very closed off and all so the meaning here is flipped on its head...

Now onto his daughter

Now this is also kinda lame but again the meaning is flipped because she's trapped in the Puppet and it is trapped in the gift box in FNaF 2 and later inside Lefty so it seems there's a pattern here...

Now Cassidy does get mentioned directly in the SB files for Princess Quest so I count that as a confirmed name, however...

This is pretty self explanatory and kinda lame especially with how important she is to the lore, being "the one (William) should not have killed" and all...

Speaking of William...

I'll refrain from going on my "good dad William" headcanon/tangent here because I gotta keep to canon and also I don't want to write another essay over this. So again the meaning is flipped, William is harming kids, though you could say he's a strong-willed warrior in the sense that he refuses to give up and die...

Next we have Mike

Now we're in Bible names territory and I do believe its meaning is flipped in a way, Michael is the one who ends up killing the crying child,albiet on accident, and he's been constantly chasing down William after the events of SL so you could say he's a "curse" to William...

Onto Elizabeth's

Again very religious names, this one is pretty vague especially if we try to flip the meaning... I guess depending on the timeline if Elizabeth died last her death would mark the scarcity of murders? I know a lot of people argue exactly how many kids William killed but the games keep showing us 6 dead kids plus Elizabeth and the crying child so her death could mark the end of the missing children incident, why he would stop is kinda confusing especially since in SB he's back to trying to kill kids...

Speaking of Security Breach and kids, time for the feral child

This one is perfect and we don't have to flip the meaning, Gregory is very much alert and watchful throughout the game, he doesn't trust Vanessa from the start despite having no real motivation for such suspicion and he turns out to be right...

Speaking of Vanessa

This one is definitely the most perplexing to me, why choose such a perfect name for Gregory but choosing a name that just means "Butterfly"? Now hear me out because this is one hell of a stretch:

First of all her name is of British origin which doesn't really mean shit most of the others were either of Hebrew or German origin but it's interesting nonetheless that out of all possible names the chose a British one despite her being American, they could have chosen any name and it would fit considering how vague Butterfly is... Or is it? Butterflies are often used as a symbolism for metamorphosis together with its other life stages and, well, she has gone through a metamorphosis although it wasn't a positive one, through Glitchtrap/William's brainwashing her she went from a game tester to a murderer in a rabbit suit...

Butterflies are also known to have a pretty short lifespan, most live up tp 2-3 weeks and while Security Breach is just one night who knows how long it has been since Vanessa turned into Vanny but it is interesting how in both Vanny endings we kill the butterfly either literally or figuratively by freeing her from Glitchtrap/William's control...

#fnaf #ramblings #this probablyeans nothing and I am just grasping at straws lol #henry emily #charlotte emily #william afton #michael afton #elizabeth afton #gregory fnaf #vanessa fnaf #vanny fnaf #cassidy fnaf #fnaf sb

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mermaids-and-dastardly-deeds · 2 years ago

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*Love is Blind "live" show potential spoilers*

I'm really just making this post because I don't have friends that watch this show, but I want to rant.

The reunion show always pisses me off and this time was no different. Obviously, I don't know these people and producers and editors have a lot of power in what viewers are meant to take away during the season. That being said... how did Paul get the biggest ass chewing of the whole reunion?

Yeah, he didn't say a very nice thing about Micah after the wedding. Sure. But when was there any example of Micah being "nurturing" to anyone? When she bullied girls in the beginning? When she threw Irina under the bus for basically doing with Paul what she was doing with Kwame? When she let her drunk friends talk over and belittle Paul and their relationship? When she saw his apartment for the first time and ripped it apart? Make it make sense.

I'm glad they talked to Irina about her behavior, but where was that same energy for Micah? Pretty sure Micah was the Dumb to Irina's Dumber and she didn't have to answer for any of the behavior that she fully endorsed and participated in with Irina.

For all the talk Jackie was doing on her socials, I was expecting hotter takes. The whole interview with Vanessa was a well rehearsed joke. Does her repeated homophobia counteract Marshall's transphobic comment? No. They're both wrong for that. They both brought out ugly things in one another. At least Marshall attempted to take accountability for it and hopefully will educate himself or has educated himself on why that was a fucked up thing to say. For as much as Jackie has said she's changed, she has certainly continued to be disrespectful and immature via social media. Her and Josh for sure deserve eachother.

Best of luck to Kwame and Chelsea. Kwame got off way too easy in my opinion. Because while we talked about the whole Micah and Kwame Mexico conversation we just pretended like another weird conversation didn't happen with him and Micah on Chelsea's Birthday?! Also, still didn't super love his doubling down on "I didn't want to talk about race" reasoning for potentially going by Alex instead of Kwame, but as a white person, I'm gonna stay in my lane and leave that discussion to be lead by black creators.

Other than that, love Tiffany and Brett with all my heart. They truly know how to show up for one another. Zack and Bliss seem to compliment eachother beautifully too and I'm glad that her dick of a father has come around from what it sounds like.

And I think that ends my rant. If you read this, you're a Saint and would love to hear your opinions too. If you didn't, I totally get it. 🤣 This post turned into a novel.

#me #text post #love is blind #love is blind s4 reunion #love is blind spoilers

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widowed-mistress · 1 year ago

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FNAF MOVIE THEORY

Okay, so me and my brothers thought about this the Thursday the movie came out in our country so here it is:

Okay, so the fnaf theory my brother and I have is that Gareth possesses Ballon Boy.

He's the only animatronic to not be actively hostile to Mike at any point in the movie, and he has the most "haunting precess", seemingly being able to teleport at will. Moreover, the the credits scene, he gets into the cab, for what reason?

Because he heard William confirm that he killed him and was going to kill his brother. He finally has the confirmation to what he suspected, the Mike, was HIS Mike. His older brother. He's going to reunite with them.

My brother's and I came up with this theory the moment we got back home since and I made a joke about how Ballon Boy was the only animateonic that's jump scare was just a still image, like how Golden Freddy's jump scare was like in the 1st game. This prompted them to start saying Ballon Boy was the new Golden Freddy, then we realized he was the only nom hostile one and how if he was passed by Gareth it would explain why he doesn't fit in with the group

He doesn't feel like part of the group because he died outside of the pizzeria. Plus, since the Smiths are meant to be a stand in for the afton kids

Abby- Baby

Mike- micheal

Gareth- c.c

It would make sense that Gareth possess the animatronic that acts most ghostly.

Like every other animatronic hAlso, we think Vanessa is either a robot or chipped somehow. The way she talks is weird, and she only reveals information when directly given specific questions to answer. Plus, the whole "if he's there, I won't be of much use" is suspicious. Almost like she's trained not to hurt him.

Nico and Agustin say chipped since if they're doing make more movies explaining human robots would be pretty fucking difficult, but I still stand by it. She's another stand in for Elizabeth by being connected to Vanessa, so robot makes sense in my mind, espa when you look back to the novel trilogyas a reason to be possessed. Even Cupcake. Lots of people feel like it's an extension of Chica, but even if you don't fully believe that, Susie has always been said to have been lured by Afton using her dead dog, so that could explain the cupcake. But then, who possesses

Ballon Boy? He can't be an extension of anyone else because he isn't connected to anyone else. That only leaves him to be Gareth Smith

Also, we think Vanessa is either a robot or chipped somehow. The way she talks is weird, and she only reveals information when directly given specific questions to answer. Plus, the whole "if he's there, I won't be of much use" is suspicious. Almost like she's trained not to hurt him.

That's it, that's the post

#spoiler #fnaf #fnaf movie #mike smith #gareth smith #ballon boy #abby smith #goodnight my nightmares #theorizing #theory

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kreestatic · 1 year ago

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My thoughts about the Five Nights at Freddy's Movie

⚠️This will contain major spoilers and I will not be holding back so consider yourself warned⚠️

Everybody out? Alright

Overall, it was good. It was really well made. They clearly put a lot of effort with this movie. The lighting, the composition of shots and of course the animatronics.

I'm kinda surprised we see the animatronics as much as we did. I guess it makes sense since it would be a waste not to show the puppets off. They made sure this movie looked nice which I appreciate.

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Plot Points

The atmosphere was good. I do wish that they 'hid' the animatronics more. They are much more threatening when they are just in the dark lurking and stalking. There are some scenes in the movie like that, I just wish there were more of that.

The way they did the spirits are kinda confusing

The opening was awesome. It sets the atmosphere and threat really well. It was intense.

The middle it felt like it kinda dropped off. There are some scenes that felt kinda slow

Then by the end so much was happening that it was kinda overwhelming. The ending felt so fast. I wish they balanced the pacing a bit better

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I wish there were more moments of the animatronics being alone with the adults and they just threaten them in small ways

I didn't really like the fort scene HAHAHA. Don't get me wrong, I do love me some animatronics acting cute. This feels too cute tho. I guess it makes sense because their kids and they're supposed to be friendly around Abby but that scene kinda removes the threat that they established in the past scenes.

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The actors did really well!

I do wish we seen more of William and Matthew Lillard but I get that they need the twist for the casual audiences. The Springlock scene was good overall. Matthew's action was AWESOME. Dude was acting batshit insane, I love it. I know everyone wished that it was more brutal but it's a PG-13 movie so yeah, I get it. I still think that fan made Springlock audio was perfect and better than the movie. Nothing can ever top that one.

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They focused more on the story of Mike than Freddy's which I understand. They still need to share a compelling story to casual audiences. This movie is clearly not a representation of FNAF's lore. I think it's the viewer's job if they want to dive deeper into this franchise.

Even so, I think this is a movie made for the fans and you need to have knowledge of basic lore to fully understand the movie. So the people going in blind might be a tad bit confused

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I'm kinda torn about Vanessa being an Afton. I'm sure the die hard fans WILL NOT like that. And yeah my feelings towards that are more on the negative side. It's a last minute reveal so that's kinda tacky since there's already so much going on by the end and now yeah I guess Vanessa is William's daughter now.

There's not really much clues driving us to that direction. I just thought that she was related to one of the Missing Children so she has this close connection with the place. I and many people theorized that she would be related to Susie aka the spirit of Chica. It's because of the blonde hair

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So...guess this debunks the Michael Afton is Mike Schmidt Theory which..I'm kinda torn about. I thought Mike was gonna have repressed memories of his past as an Afton. I was also totally on board on the Divorce Theory and I thought that was gonna happen in this movie but I guess not. Scott still has the final say in the end.

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Although I'll treat the canonicity of the movie as I treat the books. What happened in the movie does not equal to the canon that happened in the books and games. They are still separate. It has the same case as the original novel trilogy (Silver Eyes, Twisted Ones, Fourth Closet) where we see the same characters that we see in the games but the story they are telling is still separate.

I guess the events of this game parallel the original trilogy a bit. At least the kidnapping plot points. In there, William also kidnapped a kid which was Charlie's twin. Charlie has these thoughts that drive her towards finding her twin brother. Oversimplification but it's kinda similar.

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Cameos

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Speaking of Charlie..THE PUPPET!!!! I KNEW IT!! I KNEW THAT THEY'LL MAKE SOME SORT OF CAMEO!! Albeit, it's an audio cameo with the music box BUT STILL. FNAF 2 CONFIRRMMEEDDD! Nah they better make FNAF 2 if they tease us like that.

Also the audio in the end said "Come Find Me". That's potentially William or maybe even the Puppet

Although I am wondering how they'll continue the lore since they totally broke it with Vanessa being an Afton. Maybe they'll make their own continuity just like the books.

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MATPAT YOU LIED TO ME HOW DARE YOUUUU!! I trusted you. I TRUSTED YOU WITH MY LIFE. NOW I SEE YOU IN THE MOVIE SAYING "BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY"??? HOW DARE-

Goes to show how great of an actor MatPat is. Really showing off his theatre kid skills with all that bamboozling

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Mark wasn't there tho which I understand. He's busy making his own damn movie (I'm also very excited for Iron Lung. Cannot wait for that)

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Also I love they made Balloon Boy absolutely cursed looking it's amazing. I guess he's the "secret animatronic" they were talking about that they didn't show in the trailers. Or..it could be another one..

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Theories

One last question before I wrap this up. Was that Springlock suit they were putting Abby in..CIRCUS BABY?

Actually no. I swear I've seen that face before. After a bit of digging. I found it, Ella. Ella was an alarm clock doll that came from the book 'Fazbear Frights: 1:35 AM'. In the movie she's a Springlock animatronic so what could this mean?

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Some theorists, specifically John from YT channel FuNaff, noticed that there was an ongoing circus theme in recent FNAF media. They theorized that Eclipse, Circus Baby, Ballora, and the mascots from the Mimic's room in the Ruin DLC all have a circus theme and these characters could be much older than we thought. Could Ella, the Animatronic be part of this roster?

John's gonna have a field day with that specific detail

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Final Thoughts

So guess that's the end of this review. Overall I think the movie was good but for the older fans, it could be a bit underwhelming. It's not perfect but I still like that they did put a lot of effort to this movie and didn't make it look like an amateur made movie. I'm still very grateful for it.

And who knows, this movie can drive more people into the wonderful world of Five Nights at Freddy's and I'm all for that.

#fnaf #fnaf movie #five nights at freddy's #five nights at freddy's movie #spoilers #fnaf movie spoilers #movie review #fnaf movie review #william afton #mike schmidt

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auggielovesreading · 2 years ago

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Can we just talk about the joy that this theory brings me

Ya know the theory that Gregory (security breach) is Evan Afton, Glamrock Freddy is Micheal Afton and Vanessa (Vanny) is Elizibeth Afton? I mean, I LOVE IT. And sure, I’m not a fan of security breach as a part of the franchise. I have a full post about that from recently if you wanna check that out, but this theory makes me appreciate the game A LOT more than I did before. Like, for example, let’s look at this ending of security breach:

When you successfully save Vanessa, you’re shown this drawing of her, Gregory and Funtime Freddy eating icecream on the hill together. A family torn apart by tragedy and circumstance reunited to finally be kids together. It’s the perfect ending. Not to mention the resemblance between the hill in this drawing and the cemetery hill:

The franchise has always followed this family; the Aftons. The dad, William Afton, being the killer. The purple guy. The man responsible for many children’s deaths and a series of horrible chain restaurants all linked back to disaster and torment. The mother fallen victim of suicide if you are to collect and listen to the therapy CD’s in security breach (given that the Vanny = Elizabeth theory is correct) and then rebuilt using remnant into Ballora. The sister, Elizabeth, following her curiosity of her fathers newest animatronic right into her death, going on to possess the animatronic “baby”, then presumably being rebuilt using robotic parts and such (which is expanded upon in other stories in the novel. This is not new to the lore), and then finally the two sons, Evan having his frontal lobe bitten off by one of the animatronics after a bad prank his brother pulled, resulting in his death (and possible rebuilding), and Micheal, the last living Afton, who we play as in all the games. He follows his fathers past desperately trying to right the wrongs that have been left behind.

Aka: the story has LAYERS. The whole thing is about, not just William, but the siblings. They constantly try to reconnect with eachother. Everytime Golden Freddy (who is possessed by both Evan and a ghost ‘Cassidy’) flashes the screen, we’re left with the message “It’s me”, which was first interpreted as some scary horror game bullshit is now understood as a helpless younger brother calling out to his older brother, “It’s me in here!” So heartbreaking ngl.

Now, before I get hate, let me explain why I believe each of the siblings ARE Vanny, Freddy and Gregory.

Evan = Gregory:

Now, this one is often hated on, but I think the evidence is easy to follow. We all remember the signature line that drove all us theorists CRAZY! “I will put you back together.” Presumably said by Evans toy Freddy, but written in a slightly different font colour than his normal text. It could be a mistake, but let’s not forget that Scott doesn’t make mistakes. The deeper into the lore we got, the more literal that line felt. Story after story in the books talking about a distraught child’s death followed by a grieving parent rebuilding them via robotics. Now let’s remember that the talking Freddy doll was made by William, Evans dad, to spy on him and keep him inside. So when the doll says “I will put you back together” that’s coming straight from the mouth of stabby stab himself, purple guy. “You are broken,” he says, and as any loving dad would, he will put him BACK. TOGETHER.

Now let’s read this line from security breach,

spoken TO GREGORY from Freddy. What odd wording.. it almost reminds me….

An obvious nod that that NOTORIOUS LINE! It’s also apparent that in the original script, Freddy said “You’re bleeding, you are hurt.” But they changed it to “you are broken” because it fit the story more. Could be a mistake right? SCOTT. DOESN’T. MAKE. MISTAKES.

Now, let’s get to the design.. because this one is clear as day. Evan is only shown in 8-bit form with brown hair, a strand falling between his eyes, two stripes on his shirt and shorts. Gregory is introduced with brown hair, a strand fallen between his eyes, two stripes on his shirt and shorts. How much thicker can they lay it on? He was rebuilt just like Charlie, (Henry’s daughter/ the puppet.) it would also explain the bad ending of security breach where Greg escapes and runs into the street where he’s living. Him being homeless is totally understood considering the fact that both his parents are literally dead (except William ig because dear old dad always comes back) and he isn’t even entirely human.

Micheal = Glamrock Freddy

Now, this one I love. Micheal was burned down with all the animitronics and his dad by Henry,

“And to you, my brave volunteer, who somehow found this job listing not intended for you, although there was a way out planned for you, I have a feeling that's not what you want. I have a feeling that you are right where you want to be.” - a speech from Henry to Micheal as he burned down the building.

And the security breach location was built above that burnt building as shown in the ending. We all know ghosts can haunt the animatronics, so who other than Micheal to guide his younger brother to safety. Plus when they enter the basement, Freddy goes mad. This isn’t an exact quote, but he starts saying things like “I know this place, I’ve been here before, I am not me, my friends are down here” etc. “my friends are down here” is telling. He knows these spirits which WOULDNT be the case if he was just an AI. There was also a quote in the OG script for SB that I’m now having trouble resurfacing (MatPat spoke about it) where he said that he remembered Gregory. I just think this theory is really going somewhere. It almost makes up for the shit that security breach added to this fandom, lmfao.

Elizebeth = Vanny

Again, we know about the rebuilding of kids being a constant in this franchise, so we all know this is possible.

Now let’s talk about the CD’s from security breach. If you collect them all and then load them into Michaels secret room in the basement, it plays recordings from therapy sessions between Vanessa and her therapist. They date back to Help Wanted where (if you didn’t know) Vanessa was the tape girl who guides you through the story of Jeremy and the weird shit going on with glitchtrap. There are a few lines that stand out. The therapist talking about her mother’s death which fits right in with the story of Ballora and the plot of the kids and dad. Her therapist also says, “I remember your dad. Bill, right?” Which got me confused for a moment before I remembered that Bill is short for William. Also her resemblance to Elizabeth with the golden hair and green eyes which is enough proof because, idk if I’ve ever mentioned this but, Scott doesn’t make mistakes.

So to put it simply. They’re siblings and it makes Security Breach almost salvageable.

#security breach #five nights at freddy’s #fnaf universe #fnaf #glamrock freddy #fnaf theory

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