#i just feel like if vanny cassie is real

[puhpandas]

ideal ggy reveal for me right now is some sort of game whatever format theyd use (for example sb vs hw is very different storytelling) about vanny killing dr rabbit and it leads up to the beginning of sb at the end

[just-a-hooman64]

I ADORE environmental

details/storytelling

In the entrance of the pizza plex of RUIN, You can tell so many details about what type of people explored the pizzaplex before Cassie. To me at least, they truly feel like teenagers who may or may not spent time in the in-canon FNAF fandom (or that they're just realistically silly goobers)

This all comes from the graffiti of course, and the little marks people left around

"I Spent the night here and lived!!"

To me, this tells me that they are aware of the same "Five Nights at Freddy's = dying" correlation as we are (Thanks to Help Wanted making fnaf games canon in the fnaf universe). You cannot tell me that you wouldn't see this in real life if a fnaf attraction closed down.

"Tag Yourself"

A silly tag yourself chart. I can't tell what all the corners say, but I can read "Wizard" At the top most and "Filled with terror" on the right. The left hand side also says "Filled with" but the Vanny graffiti blocks it out. If someone knows what it says I'd love to know!

"Me"

The question is, does this have any significance for did a (maybe) Monty fan climb all the way up and spray paint the two letters green in dedication to their favourite animatronic

"do NOT eat the CHOWDA"

A reference to the code name for the RUIN Dlc. I wonder what was in the chowda...

"He was our superstar <3"

There are various instances which let us know that Freddy Fazbear is truly a beloved person in universe. The people adored him, and even after the plex closed down, the people sneaking in show their love and appreciation to the big bear <3

"they're still here"

Seems like someone encountered the animatronics and managed to live to tell the tale in yellow spray paint. Wonder how this person is doing.

"I miss fizzy faz :("

Apparently the pizzaplex is the only place where fizzy faz was sold. That or the company who made it broke ties with fazco and its out of production.

And finally

"Forever &Ever, Love Freddy"

It seems that those within the fazbear universe are just as interested in this phrase as many of us are. These words are found basically all over the pizzaplex, however I just have screenshots from the enterance. Seems like others had found their way into Bonnie's Green room and discovered the poster.

While some of these graffities may be referencing the Fazbear and Friends theme song, "Love" only shows up on that poster as far as I am aware.

This Is wonderful detailing to me, not only displaying how the outside world loved the Fazbear and Pizzaplex, but also enforces the importance of that poster and the words "You & Me Forever & Ever, Love, Freddy"

[jellycreamjammedart]

I have such a brainrot idea of post-betrayal Cassie teaming up with Roxy to help get her out but with the elevator destroyed they have to take the long way back, aka going through the entire PizzaPlex again. Roxy is determined to get Cassie out no matter how hard it is but Cassie decides she has a lot more to do down there in the meanwhile.

First thing turning M.X.E.S security back on but it's very weak and vulnerable without the security nodes. The Mimic is down there somewhere still but it certainly will try to follow and escape once it's no longer stunned. So Cassie offers M.X.E.S her vanni mask as a first initial node (with M.X.E.S and Helpi instructing her how to do so,) so that the security bunny has some grounding to start on. This allows both Helpi and M.X.E.S to talk to Cassie through the mask's implant.

So on the long way back Cassie tries reactivating the parent nodes and child nodes.

Since she gets on better terms with M.X.E.S it no longer tries to get her killed, meaning most past threats aren't gonna be prone to attack her... but thats not enough for Cassie.

She goes out of the way to help those broken, confused things seemingly tortured beyond repair. She tries to save every thing stuck down there with her. She clings to the idea and need to there being some meaning in a little compassion in such cruel, twisted world.

Getting her hands dirty pulling trash and rotten food out of Chica's body to disobstruct these nasty things from her endo ontop of returning her voice.

Getting her hands scratched up trying to reboot Monty after draining the water he was electrified in.

Getting her hands sore trying to pull out every sharp metal seen impaling into Prototype Glamrock Freddy.

They join Cassie along with roxy.

Reactivating the mini Music Men, they help her through too vertical vents. Reactivating the wet floor bots.

Basically undo everything the Mimic tricked her into doing, with an additional offer of bits of kindness. It was her kind heart that led her down. It can lead her back up. And she's taking everyone up with her.

Trying to patch and fix Bonnie up. Recruiting the Daycare Attendant so they're not doomed to an empty lonely daycare.

Cassie tries to make everything better for everybody. By god does she wish she had the power to just fix literally everything! But she can't... so she sets on her heels and tries to fix whatever she *can* fix.

By the time they make their way back to the lobby where this nightmare and deception started, Cassie has gathered a large group of unlikely friends. They're finally here! They finally can leave. See the sun. Be free! Be happy again!

As beautiful of a sentiment that is... it's not that simple.

They can't all just leave; they need to stay to help M.X.E.S keep the Mimic sealed away. They're guardians as much as M.X.E.S is. And if a similar crisis happens again, M.X.E.S needs guardians to send distress signals to to come and help. It can't guard the place alone.

Cassie can leave though. She earned it. She deserves her happy ending. She did enough- no she did more than enough. She did more than many ever did.

But if it's her happy ending, then why does she feel her heart breaking? Why does it feel so unfair? Looking at those disfigured broken faces (or lack thereof, in the case of Prototype Glamrock Freddy,) she can see real friends there, despite everything they've gone through. Real friends that would show up to her birthday party in a heartbeat, she knows. Real friends that wouldn't leave her behind. She's never had such friends before in her life!

And now she's the one who has to leave them behind?

This feels awful. She feels awful. It doesn't feel like a happy ending at all. All she can bring herself to do is cry her heart out while hugging and clinging to those metal monsters.

But it's necessary, as painful as it is to part ways. It's the right thing. They have a very important mission in there, and Cassie has a whole life ahead of her-- she shouldn't stay really, there's no proper or safe food for her down there. And this is no place for a child, this is no longer the fun Freddy Fazbear's Mega PizzaPlex where people come to play, eat and watch the Glamrock band. Those are times long passed, long gone, and forgotten by most.

Besides, she can leave with her vanni mask, the first and now last node. Even if history repeats itself, there would always be one node left. It's a perfect safety plan.

Or... Cassie can choose to stay a little longer, if to check if there's anything else she can do... such as unlocking that mysterious scooper room... it sure is scary, the thought of getting down there again. But with those new friends by her side rather than trying to stop her, the trip back down is quite easier, if still rather dangerous due to the place's hazardous condition. But she will not fail this time. She's determined not to.

Maybe then, she can make everything right again, for them all, after all.

[quillsinkwell]

FNAF SECURITY BREACH RUIN SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT

1: I really like Cassie, more than I expected to. One of my issues with FNAF was that the human characters don't really feel like characters in the games, more like prop pieces. But Cassie genuinely feels like a character that I want to see get a happy ending.

2: I went in expecting that if I saw Eclipse, he'd be a bastard, and instead was pleasantly surprised. He's my scrunkly :].

3: I really love the Roxy redemption we got!! She was genuinely kind and gentle with Cassie and I loved it.

4: I kept expecting the V.A.N.N.I mask to turn Cassie evil at some point, tho I did enjoy the return of Helpy.

5: At first I was soul crushed when I saw what had become of Freddy, but I saw online that he was a prototype and not good ol' Freddy, so :]

6: Pour one out for Monty I guess. Dude forgot he wasn't a real alligator.

7: Bonnie enjoyers got fed at what cost

8: Yeah no, I refuse to believe Gregory left Cassie to die.

Why would he guide her to the elevator in the first place if he was just gonna kill her off? He went through hell to make sure Freddy was ok, and he knew that guy for less than a day, he wouldn't leave his best friend to rot.

(maybe this is the inner Gregory fan talking, SO WHAT)

The Mimic wasn't shown to be destroyed, just escaped from, and we don't know how much control it had over the Pizzaplex, especially after Cassie freed it. Maybe it was what sent her crashing down.

Or that freaky rabbit (which I'm pretty sure is Afton) hacked the elevator to keep her down below (will elaborate on)

9: I believe the shot in game featuring Vanessa and Gregory confirms that the Princess Quest ending is the canon ending, and y'know what? I'm ok with that, I like the ending, it's got three stars, and the Encyclopedia said that was Gregory's good ending, so I had a feeling it was gonna go that way.

BUT! In that ending, it isn't made clear if by playing the game we killed Afton, or we simply freed Vanessa.

So, what if that glitchy rabbit is Afton, but his vessel wasn't complete, so he got stuck in the system, and the whole 'Vanny Network' thing he set up to try to replace her.

(we don't know how long it's been since the events of SB, and if the three stars ending is the canon ending, then we also don't know what destroyed the Pizzaplex)

Maybe Afton was in control of the elevator, and used Gregory's voice to trick Cassie (like some people were theorizing before the dlc came out) into believing Gregory betrayed her so he could turn her into his replacement Vanny and get her to make him real again.

Are points 8 & 9 a desperate ploy to not have Gregory be an asshole? Probably

Will that deter me? Absolutely not

Also if there is an answer as to how the Pizzaplex got destroyed in the TFTP books, don't spoil please, I've only read Lally's Game, the main reason I know what the Mimic is that SuperHorrorBro kept mentioning it during his playthrough so I checked the wiki.

Also if there are more endings to the DLC, please be cool about spoilers! I've only seen what SHB posted.

Anyways, those are my thoughts on Ruin.

[proxylynn]

Blorbo: Sun and Moon (FNAF SB)

{The first bot of FNAF to make me feel something.}

[Unlike Monty, who I think got massively shafted with all the cut content, the Daycare Attendant still had enough of him intact to show off his personality(s) in the games.

Sun is often seen as, well, a big ray of sunshine and happy-go-lucky with his need to take care of others. But with Ruin and HW2, we learned how he really is and it made some oddities from SB when we first met him now make more sense. On the surface, Sun is a friendly and playfully cartoonish fellow who loves playing with kids and taking care of them. But under that, Sun is something a lot more human. He's not just anxious, he's frustrated. He's restricted, he's bossy, and childish. He's flawed. The common belief for Sun was that he was a childish dreamer in an adult body, a scattered and hyperactive fellow with plenty of colorful hobbies who is happy to be a playmate for any child. But no. Maybe that was a Sun from a long time ago, like how Moon used to be friendly, maybe Sun used to like his job. Sun is not the bouncy buddy boy that we thought he was. Sun is fed up with the job, occasionally happy or feigning happiness before the blasé slides through. Sun is Squidward. From how he criticizes art, to how he can be snarky and bitter, to just being done with everything. He's suffering from burnout. Sun is…relatable. And it's fucking amazing!

When it comes to Moon, it's harder to put down a clear distinction. The Moon we see in SB is made out to be a malevolent and aggressive enemy, attempting to punish those for staying up "past his bedtime". He still has a great distaste for messes and feels responsible for cleaning them like his daytime counterpart does, but to a more demented degree. And in Ruin, he's desperate to remain in control and in pain. Kinda painting in the light of a wounded animal of sorts. But…and here me out on this…Whatever personality Moon once had, if at all, is no more. Moon is just Sun's alter but has been corrupted by the Vanny virus to the point he's just…well…What we see. For so long we have considered Sun and Moon as separate animatronics entirely. Sure Sun refers to Moon as him or he, but he also refers to him as the other me and that is very important because HW2 to is the game where we see Sun for who he really is and in the process, we also see the real Moon. In the SB trailer, the animatronics are shown with red eyes as they being possessed. Monty is shown with red eyes in his boss battle (the red dots, not just irises), the staff Bots that Vanny controls also have these red glowing eyes, as does Vanny herself who is also possessed… and so does Moon. Moon is not evil Sun. He is his possessed corruption. Moon is to Sun as Vanny is to Vanessa. This is even more clear by the fact that Vanny and Moon act very alike and even Vanessa and Sun act alike. Like Vanessa and Vanny are the same person, so are Sun and Moon. They are not two separate personalities, to an extent. It's just Daycare Attendant and Daycare Attendant under the effects of something else. In HW2 Moon has absolutely zero awareness or concern for his situation. Once the switch flips he's on the hunt, saying the same lines and moving the same way. With the only deviation being in the small glimpses we get in Ruin when Cassie enters the daycare and confronts the same shattered Sun and Moon, except moon is in control this time and she can only communicate with Sun when the mask is on. Seeing him during the mask thing seems to show us that Sun is always aware, watching, and that's actually pretty sad.

Eclipse, to me, is what they were supposed to be. Not just a reboot safety mode, but the true state of mind when both halves are unified. He's rather gentle, whimsical, and calm, acting as a combination or even a balance between Moon's collectiveness and Sun's cheerful demeanor. By all accounts, Eclipse seems like a safe character and a kindly fellow, not showing any of the same red flags that we might have seen with Sun's meeting with Gregory. Well…except one. Eclipse seems a little detached from reality, thinking the daycare will be opening the next day and that he'll be taking care of kids again, which is not going to happen unfortunately. But this demeanor, it makes you wonder if there was a time long ago when Sun and Moon were more like this. Back when nap times were safe and kids wanted to be in the daycare, perhaps there was a time when Sun and Moon were distinctly one and the same. And then some corruption crept in and slowly they became further and further divided. Now all that being said Eclipse is a complicated case, while assumed to be Sun and Moon in an earlier form as a reboot would imply, he instead is their safe mode. In safe mode, one of the trademarks is being a sort of state that makes them oblivious to their situation and a slow halting way of speaking. Like how Freddy thinks everything's hunky-dory and Roxxy's asking if Cassie booked her party, Eclipse looks around at the daycare and says "Oh, this place will be flooded with kids" like he genuinely believes it. This is devastating and it gets worse outside of the daycare as Cassie gets a final call from Sun thanking her…Which raises some questions.

Sun is still capable of speaking once Eclipse is online, which may mean that Eclipse is also maybe a third personality created through the safe mode, which would explain why his voice is so different even though being the same. This would mean that like with Moon, Sun is sitting inside watching what Eclipse is doing he's just contented because Eclipse is not some wicked gremlin yelling no Sun and instead is a sweetheart blissfully unaware that this is the end of the line. He is the comfortable and welcoming fugue and that's where we leave Sun and Moon, as Eclipse now reverted to an earlier state and they are now stuck in unawareness of their situation but they are still trapped in that situation, still broken, still stuck at the pizza Plex with nobody coming for them.

Sun and Moon are more complex characters than pretty much anybody else. Between the major cuts, drastic changes, and a lack of commitment, this is the first time that we've had a character have so many layers and the fact that the Jekyll&Hyde thing isn't the most interesting thing about him anymore is great. The Daycare Attendant was expanded on, cues we already saw in SB, every quirk and flaw shown of him has been built enough to see the full picture which immediately shot him up the ladder of character building since so many fnaf's characters are voiceless, nameless, devoid of a personality...and then suddenly the daycare clown has more depth than anybody else, books included. Hell, his VA even confirmed he's autistic. There's so much to this bot and I fucking love him!]

[an-archaic-archivist]

I don't think Vanny was ever intended to be anything special by SteelWool

"But the teaser trailer had her talking in it!" It's very common for trailers to have dialogue made specifically for them. Hell, both Ruin and Help Wanted 2 did this in their trailers. They summarize the plot of the game. The original SB teaser did the same. Just less openly. Kid is trapped in the Pizzaplex and is being hunted with Freddy protecting him. I don't think the plot of SB changed as much as a lot of people think it did. It was just being formed slowly and shown to us in an abstract and arguably deceitful way. "But what about all of Vanny's unused animations?" Most of those are alternative walking and running animations. The only stand out is the one that depicts her crawling.

I guess this could have been used, but it was likely replace by the mini music men to add to the claustrophobic nature of the vents. "But what about that Glitchtrap voice at the start of the "Gameplay" trailer?" Again, that sort of thing is very common for trailers. To have audio specifically made to entice the audience. That's what a trailer is for. To make the product it's advertising look as good as possible. Disregarding the hype surrounding Vanny, A new trailer will almost always put a new character front and center. That's just basic marketing. To push the shiny new thing as hard as it can. The trailer audio didn't give us much new info anyway. It was just doubling down on what we already knew. That Glitchtrap was manipulating Vanny. Neither of them were ever meant to have that many voice lines. Hell, there's even an unused voice line of Gregory making fun of her catchphrase because of just how much she says it.

You ever notice how most of the shots that feature Vanny in those two "gameplay" trailers are long, straight and mostly featureless corridors aside from some bright red lights?

That's because they were made just for the trailers. They were made to show Vanny off and nothing more. They were never meant to be in the final game. It seems like for whatever reason, Fnaf wants nothing to do with her. Ruin canonizes an ending where she's less likely to be an antagonistic force in any potential future appearances, Tales from the Pizzaplex doesn't even mention her, and Help Wanted 2 seems to double down on her not being around anymore by showing her literally waving goodbye to the player.

I'm half convinced that the only reason the PQ ending was picked as the canon one over the clearly originally canon Burntrap ending was just so they could write Vanessa/Vanny out of the story.

Not only is the tone from the PQ ending very upbeat compared to Ruin, while the Burntrap ending would feel like a much more natural continuation going into Ruin given that we straight up see part of the Pizzaplex collapsing. Plus, part of why the PQ ending is the happiest is that all the animatronics are freed from Glitchtrap, but what did freeing them actually accomplish? All of them except for Roxy have completely lost themselves and gone insane. All Chica can think about is food even after she gets her voice back, Eclipse doesn't even recognize Cassie and thinks the abandoned Pizzaplex will be "flooded with kids," and Monty has gone feral.

So yeah. The only real hope I have left of Vanny making a come back is her somehow showing up in the fnaf movie or that Vanny graffiti in Ruin meaning that she's gonna come back, but otherwise, I'm just not having a good time man.

[reluctanttrabbit]

STARES AT U WITH MY BIG OL EYES. What are your thoughts on vengeful Cassie post-Ruin? Not necessarily midncontrolled by the Mimic, but just her being GRRR ANGRY with Gregory (SORRY IM SO UNSERIOUS LMFAO)

HEHE STARES BACK AT YOU!!!!!

ouhhhh i havent given it as much as thought as i should,,,,, honestly i think she'd be justified in feeling hurt/hating greg because shes under the impression that greg was the one who called her here just to make her fall down an elevator and nearly die

although now that shes aware that the mimic was calling her here the whole time and she got in contact with the real greg, she'd probably want to give greg the benefit of the doubt

methinks itd just be a whole lot of her going back and forth on "gregory betrayed me!" "no he didnt!" and not knowing what to believe. so she has to pull herself out of the ruin and find gregory to get the answer herself

i dont rlly think cassie would get mind controlled. but erm. IN THAT SCENARIO. if cass still thinks the vanni mask wont do any harm to her maybe she could use it here and there to help her find a path out of the pizzaplex. helpi/mimic tries to get her on its side whenever shes using it and convince her that gregory wants nothing to do with her, until cassie cant take the mask off like some parts of ruin and is forced to listen to the mimic...

cassie fnaf my bff im so sorry girlie i'll get you out of there i promise 🙏🙏

[waynnyy]

● || Introducing Greg&GG Twin Au ||●

Hello ! So um. .

Wanted to introduce a silly lil au i got ( idk if people already did but here my version of it ! )

So yeah in this au, gregory and ggy ( Gaby ) are two sibling ! ( both 13 years old ).

And here some funfact about them :

● the two :

- The two dont know they real parent, theh got left in a alley before a man found them ( cough. .micheal ) and they got raised by him.

- The two spend their time in the pizzaplex with their friend group ( + book characters )

- Cassie IS THEIR COUSIN, they see mark ( bonnie mask ) as their uncle and i put the theory that he is cassie dad. .so please dont ship gregory or ggy with her, they are just close friend/ cousin.

- they are chaotic, arson duo. .even if ggy is more chaotic-

- Never leave them two second they’re gonna burn the pizzaplex with ggy laughing and gregory drawing the fire.

- They like to gossip between them even if ggy trying to make greg shut since he can talk alot with the person concerned around.

● Gregory :

- Gregory have ADHD, he can easily defocus where to be in his world, was also consult for autism.

- His fav animatronics are of course freddy, but someone he feel like that fred is suspicious toward him for some reason ( ggy-).

- he really like to draw what he saw, he cant go somewhere with his book and pencil.

- Gregory is aromantic, but he dont really know how its work since his brother dont really help him with that, he dont want to be interest in a relation for the moment and gonna maybe wait when he older.

- between him and ggy, he the most normal one unlike his brother who really chaotic or psychopact-

● Ggy ( Gaby ) :

- Ggy has his psycho personality from the book, which is why he is intact from psychopathy, split personality, and paranoia.

- the only person he can care is his family, but he almost killed some person gregory cared about-

- he cant sometime stand vanessa/vanny and can arguing with her alot-

- he gay, he dont really know how he liked boy, until he meet the person he almost killed, Tony. ( yes Tony x ggy for this au just for you all )

- he can joke about alot of thing to just annoy the other.

Here for the presentation ! Imma post soon they’re design ! But you can also ask question ! Imma be happy to respond with the two and they’re friend !

[fnafsbheadcanon]

I absolutely hate how in the tales books people think that just because Gregory was mind controlled to lure and maybe killed people, it means that he’s evil. Do I need to seriously explain on how the many reasons it’s not true?

Why is Cassie being represented as this pure angel? Don’t get me wrong she is one my top 3 favorite characters of fnaf, but I feel like people gloss over the fact she decommissioned more than 40+ floor bots when there’s no reason to, and the possible theory of her becoming the new Vanny and maybe kill children and adults (Mind control) is just gonna be defended tooth and nail, which is justified since it’s obvious she’s killing people against her will, but people say Gregory “willingly” killed people.

I am so done with this favoritism and demonizing children bullshit.

I see comments on how Gregory deserves the worst death or actually heinous shit happen to him, it genuinely makes me sick.

Meanwhile the character drew from tales story “Monster” deserves the worst death unimaginable: He made everyone in his entire town believe that Mr. Burton was a demon of some kind, fakes over some scars that he claims Mr. Burton did it, and after Mr. Burton has a breakdown Drew knew the entire time time that he was innocent but didn’t care because he managed to get one think and one thing that matters more than life: Fame and Glory.

He then sets Mr. Burton on fire and set himself on fire included. It said that the smoke showed devil horns, which is truly meaning that the real demon is Drew

Even after all of THAT, when time passes people just forgot about Drew, like he was just a nobody. Which he rightfully deserves. But for me that’s not enough.

Seriously it straight up sad and terrifying that not everyone can understand there a middle ground in between good and bad. Gregory deserve better than this

[i-like-media]

Security Breach Ruin Trailer Analysis & Theory

Alright I have a lot to say about the new trailer. You can watch it here

I was never on board with the FNAF "Gregory is a robot" Theory... Until this very trailer when they revealed the girl's name is Cassie. Now, this Could just be a poetic parallel to previous characters and events, but given the current WACKY state of fnaf lore I just can't brush it off as that for my own peace of mind. Theory under the read more.

For those who don't know, Cassidy (also known as Cass and Cassie) was one of the murder victims and specifically, the ghost of Golden Freddy. She also is the vengeful character who stayed behind to torture Afton in Custom Night. She is also known as The One You Should Not Have Killed. (I also read online she possesses golden freddy together with crying child but let's put a pin in that 📍)

There is also another lesser known Cassidy character in FNAF. The princess from princess quest.

Which I think is Really interesting. Both have a yellow theme and BOTH are dead-set on destroying Afton (Golden Freddy fighting the Real Deal and the Princess fighting digital pixel art Aftons). But how does that relate to OUR Cassie? Well take a look at the SB Ruin poster.

It's Cassie standing in front of a Broken Down Golden Freddy Statue. It's beautiful symbolism that's been right in front of our eyes the entire time, and we never saw it! If THIS Cassie has any link to the previous ones, this is her confronting her past and future. She's going on her own princess quest... And given how we see Vanny's mask and Bonnie in the trailer, I don't think she's going to be JUST saving Gregory. She's going to confront Another facet of whatever is left of Afton.

📍Now another interesting thing about Golden Freddy possibly having been co-possessed by crying child, is Gregory's resemblance to the character.

Not exactly uncanny, but the similarities are enough to warrant theories! If these two characters were familiar with each other in a past iteration, it's QUITE the funny coincidence they're familiar with each other NOW.

Which leads to me, unfortunately, needing to humour the robot theory.

If these two are indeed the same characters from the past, they are... most likely... robots. I don't know WHO is making these robots, probably someone who's familiar with the past and Afton. And also someone who's daft enough to through these lengths to wipe the Spaghetti Stain that is Afton off the face of the earth. Because let's be honest, the cops wouldn't know what to do with a man who's both a computer virus AND zombie either 💀

I just cannot grasp another reason for these characters to exist AGAIN as children after being violently murdered in the 80's. And with how CRAZY the FNAF lore is and how important all introduced characters are, I doubt these children are anything but a coincidence/cheeky parallel. Their presence holds a weight in the narrative... whatever that narrative is at this point.

Unrelated, but I also suspect Gregory to be under Afton's influence in this DLC. He sounds a Lot like he's trying to lure her in deeper, on purpose. Saying stuff like "Save me", "I don't have time to explain how I got here but you've GOT to help me out" and "don't give up on me yet"... They just feel very odd things to say to a friend who you reached out to to rescue you. I don't trust it.

[monty-glasses-roxy]

SO THE RUIN DLC HUH

Most of this is going under a read more, I have a lot of thoughts and this is a long post.

SO. First things first. Roxy. My beloved Roxy. Oh my god guys oh my god. She was always Cassie’s favourite, she was upset to see her all ruined like that and Roxy recognised her!! This was the first time Roxy had called for Gregory by name and it was just to demand he give her eyes back. She never hurt Cassie. She stumbled back in shock at her and then fucking apologised!! And then she talked to Cassie about her birthday party like she still gave a shit!! And maybe she did!! She remembered her favourite birthday cake and was so supportive about all her friends coming to the next party!! That line about how Cassie was eleven and that she remembered because she’s the number one twice? That sounds like something she’s repeated from Cassie herself. That is so fucking sweet I am never gonna be over that whole interaction while Cassie is literally holding her hand. Roxy is in trouble and her first priority was welcoming Cassie back... Crushing.

More on Cassie, it seems like she really idolised Roxy with how she seemed to copy her where she could in the cardboard cutouts. Roxy got a good handful of new cutouts just for this which just makes me think it’s more relavant to her. The cutouts with Gregory though? He was there with her, drying her tears, and then you deactivate the child node, a giant pair of scissors, and suddenly he’s gone. She’s alone and crying to herself. This reads to me like Gregory making friends with her, being the only human friend she had and then suddenly he cut ties. He vanished on her without a trace, only to send a message to her begging him to come and save her. In order to do that, she was tasked with deactivating Roxy, effectively killing her and she does it for him, only for it to all be a lie in the end. This is tragic man. Especially given some other things I’ll get to in a mo’.

Now the Vanni mask is a cool game mechanic. How it works? No idea. But I believe it’s giving us an insight into the perception of those around us. It’s like a mindscape I think, where we can still hear Chica repeating those same old lines, where we can hear every Freddy line in the game despite him not being there and why we can hear Roxy sobbing when she’s trying to welcome Cassie back. We can see their perception of themselves, or perhaps, more of the Mimic and Cassie’s own perceptions, mixed in with theirs. The animatronics and surroundings are all a pinkish colour, this leads me to believe it’s different to the crystal clear images of Roxy, Gregory and Cassie in the Salon area, as well as different to the green of Roxy’s body when she’s talking to us. The clarity is becuase it’s Cassie that is seeing it. These are representations of herself being shown to her. The pink I believe is the animatronics perception, which is why Freddy doesn’t appear in the mask at all. He’s not there. His head is elsewhere along with the rest of his mind. The only one to have green, is Roxy, which is why it feels separate. Following this logic, it must be because that’s what she sees. That’s who she believes herself to be so that’s what we see. It’s a really cool look into these things, especially with the Sunny, Moon and Eclipse thing going on. A very cool concept.

The Helpi helper is definitely connected to either the Mimic or the Glitchy bunny there’s no way. Every time the fake Gregory said something, the Helpi bot said basically the same thing. They’re related I’m certain. Any normal AI like that would probably not let a child go into the fucking sinkhole. Like, what? Okay?? Helpy is also seen with ice cream in the second ending when you turn left at some point in the final chase. He’s right next to Gregory while Vanessa sits under the tree with a smile, all three with ice cream. Now, I don’t think that’s real, straight up. Either the transferred Freddy into a Helpy bot or that’s some illusion, a glimmer of hope for her friend that she’s shown before her death. Which is honestly awful but hey what can you do. Now.

Roxy being the last node feels so important to me. She was the last security node, she had a sense of self strong enough that she was able to react and interact as herself and not just with pre-recorded lines. Through the mask, where we presumably see Roxy’s perception mixed a little with Cassie’s own, we see how expressive she is, how she still remembers and understands what she looks like and who she is. She still knows and isn’t letting go of it, which makes it all the worse what’s happened to her. But since this is about the security... she was the guard dog. She was the last line of defense. She was the protector of that sinkhole and because of us, she couldn’t do her job to keep us out. That rabbit glitch? It couldn’t escape the servers because she came back online. None of the others were nodes, only her. She was quite literally the Cerberus to the Mimic in hell and that’s cool as fuck for her

And you know what? She protected Cassie as well as she possibly could. She went down into that sinkhole and she took on the Mimic to save Cassie. It took her offline for a while, but she fought it off long enough for Cassie to have made an escape if ‘Gregory’ hadn’t started talking to her. This thing was bigger than her by a good amount and she was beat to shit from a kart crash, a fire, and then being trapped under a forklift for fuck knows how long. She did everything she possibly could have and then after the credits, she is somehow still alive, calling out to Cassie as if she’s just found her again. If we get more DLC, it better be from Roxy’s perspective as she tries to get Cassie to the surface without getting caught by the Mimic, and if it’s not DLC, it’s my new AU. I will save my comparisons to Freddy for another post because believe me I have thoughts on that one.

We learn a lot about Cassie as a person in this honestly. She has the ability to play Chica’s Feeding Frenzy (YES THEY GAVE CHICA HER GAME BACK AND ITS FULLY COMPLETED NOW AND NOT JUST COOL SCRAPPED CONCEPTS AAAAAAAAA) and get Chica’s voicebox back to repair her. She literally goes back to Chica, sticks her hand in her mouth and reinstalls the voicebox for her. Chica is still gone, she wakes up just to say for one final time ‘I smell pizza!’ with her own voice and then she’s gone again. Cassie didn’t have to do that. There’s no benefit to doing that, there’s no ally gained or new tool unlocked, she just does it. The whole reason she’s in the Pizzaplex anyway is to save her friend. She’s a selfless, brave little kid who actually gives a shit and I’m so glad it looks like Roxy gave a shit too because fuck does she deserve that and more. She’s eleven and going through this shit? And she’s still doing the little things to help along the way? Buddy that’s just amazing and I love her for that.

Now the Gator Golf ride... Marketing. This is the cover up. This is what they tell the kids so people don’t ask where Bonnie went. I’m glad it gave Roxy and Monty that cutout of her doing his hair into a mohawk, and I love the idea that it was based off an actual event where Roxy and Bonnie were his helping hands onto the stage. I’m a little mad about this answering one small detail of my timeline but literally throwing the rest out, but if I want Roxy to be the youngest band member I can still do it, just not as easy. Again, what we see on rides and in arcade games is what Fazbear Entertainment are showing us, not necessarily what the animatronics themselves feel. There’s wiggle room here, but I do find it hilarious that it’s now canon Monty has never owned a shirt in his fucking life lmao. I love that we get to see that backstory though, and that we get to see canon Glamrock Bonnie here of all places. More on that in a bit, but it could be really telling about the relationships between everyone if it’s at all based on them which is really nice. Monty also got his golf arcade game! With all the cut content in it now! Which is really neat! I don’t know what happens when you get a hole in one on every hole yet but I’m very curious! Maybe a chance to help him too? We’ll see!

Speaking of Glam Bonnie, HE IS IN THE GAME!! WE SEE HIM!!! HE IS INSIDE OF THE GIANT CHICA BOWLING BALL!! He has two claw marks on his chest that rip into the shell and the rest of the body looks as if it suffered fall damage. More points on why Monty didn’t kill him because he’s nowhere near Gator Golf, only has two claw marks, and is simply not damaged enough to have fought either Monty or Roxy. It was one hit of a ledge of sorts that did it and I don’t think the Gator Golf catwalks would have worked given Monty’s damage. My working theory is Roxy or Freddy given the sets of three clawmarks through the bowling alley, but Chica is not off the table entirely.

And on the topic of previous animatronics, ROXY IS NOT A KNOCKOFF FOXY!!! Unless the Raceway is a rebrand of Foxy’s cowboy themed adventure that never got fully built and switched him over to Kid’s Cove before converting to Roxy, they were always two separate animatronics! He has an unfinished log flume ride in the back of the salon! It’s weird given that it’s Roxy’s attraction, but given that it’s a side attraction for her and Chica and Monty are also fairly relavant to it, I’d say it’s slightly more fair to say this is more of a common ground side attraction than strictly Roxy’s, but with Roxy still as the focus because of the theming. Like where everyone goes to hang out at Roxy’s place sort of thing. But I’m super happy about this, it would be so weird if this all existed and he was turned into Foxy. Don’t get me wrong, I do like the idea of Roxy being a trans femme Foxy, I just want to take her the nonbinary route and project my own stuff onto her, ya know? She’s trans in her own way for me

Now we are missing DJ Music Man which is devastating. I love that guy! He deserves the world! But you know what we did get? Like a HUNDRED MINI MUSIC MEN!! I am THRIVING on this! They’re different from eachother too! Some have rabbit ears, some have top hats, some have points like Sunny, some have whiskers, some have imitation hair... I love them so much you don’t understand. They catch you and they all team up to get you like a colony of ants throwing you off a cliff. I love them. They follow each other single file like a little marching band too it’s so perfect and I love all of them and can’t wait to sit and count how many we were shown because I think there’s at least seventeen of them. I only guessed four of them from the previous game and WOW WAS I WRONG THERE’S SO FUCKING MANY OF THEM OH MY GOD I LOVE ALL OF THEM!! It’s gonna be a headache to work out what to do with all of them but I LOVE THEM AND I’LL GLADLY PUT MYSELF THROUGH IT FOR THEM

And you know what? The Fronnie shippers must be feeling really good with that poster on the wall of Bonnie’s room behind the stage. “You & Me, Forever & Ever! Love, Freddy” like yeah I bet you guys are thriving like I am lmao. I do love that Bonnie had his own dressing room behind the stage. Maybe he was phased out slowly and was downgraded to just his bowling alley or perhaps it’s a fragment of a bygone Pizzaplex from before they had the Glamrock theming? I dunno, but it’s very cool of them! Would have probably been a good idea to put a door on that staircase though...

And now, Eclipse. The fandom did it. They willed it into existence. Eclipse has the voice of a ball of slime and I hate it. I love the concept! Very cool! But also oh god there’s three of them now and the main security breach tags are gonna be flooded I bet. Congrats on your third jester! No one is more dedicated to these twinks as you are you deserve another one!

On another note, it was interesting the implication that Sunny and Moon weren’t always separate and were originally the Eclipse. That’s an interesting move there and also an interesting thing to have Sunny still talk after they’ve been ‘made whole’ again. Surely, if they’ve been made whole, Sunny is now Eclipse and not Sunny? I dunno. I feel like there’s probably some really cool lines in that sing song Moon does about there being no more light and the googly eyes just staring at them. Cause that was interesting to see I like that

I think that covers all the major stuff other than Danny Phantom in a fursuit that shows up with the mask on too long. I dunno, I don’t think that’s the Mimic, I think that’s something else. Maybe Glitchtrap? I’m not sure, but thanks to Roxy still being online it couldn’t seem to escape, despite Gregory saying it had escaped at the end. So now some final tidbits I noticed.

That clip on the cinema screen where Gregory is running away from Vanny outside the Cupcake Factory? Yeah... that’s a dead end. There’s no door over there. They’re running away from the only exit. I’m not exactly sure why that played though? Like. Was it just to signpost us to Chica’s Feeding Frenzy? I dunno, it seemed weird. There was also a lot more emphasis on the Cupcake Factory this time and yet we still didn’t see Chica’s cupcake that I KNOW this version of her had. There was also that scooping room ending with the... I don’t even know? It’s not the mimic it looks completely different, it could be something new we haven’t seen yet or perhaps be more relavant to Candy Cadets (Yeah he returned!) story? I don’t know but it looks like something out of Monsters Inc. It has an L on it’s jacket, or possibly a backwards funky J and there was a note somewhere that said ‘remember Jimmy’. Not Jeremy this time I guess. A little bowling ball was stuck in the wall in Bonnie Bowl and apparently shutting down all of the Wet Floor Bots is really important? I dunno but why would you do that to them :( Also Monty became a Jaws alligator and I fucking love that for him lmao. There was also missing posters for Gregory dotted around in the Salon I think? I don’t remember where. And the other things in that final room with the Mimic in? Weird. Would love to know what that’s about.

One last thing, Gregory at the end says that a friend of his has the maps to the layout. This can either be Vanessa or Freddy. He then says “that thing has been down here for a really long time-”. You know. Down here for a very long time. This is why I think that second ending of them on the hill is either fake, or this is still the Mimic or some other creature talking to Cassie. Why would he say down here if he, the speaker, wasn’t also down there? Was Gregory actually down there? Have he and Vanessa been living down there with decapitated Freddy? Those maps would have come from either Vanessa or Freddy, which means one of them would have had to have been at least complicit in his attempt on Cassie’s life when the lift falls. I don’t know what that’s about, but it’s fucked and I hope Roxy is able to save her from the rubble or get her to the surface where she can be found. If she survived it’ll be a miracle but given how she survived everything else, she just might have.

That’s all I can think of at the moment, I still feel like I’m processing a lot of it, but these are my thoughts thus far. If you made it this far, I’d be really interested to see what other people have to say about this I love it and I love that Freddy is fucking headless with a Nightmare Fredbear stomach with a prize box inside. I think that’s really fun of him. Very fun and it was nice to see all that cut content in the game files wasn’t lost forever. That’s all I got though so I’m gonna. Go dive into the Roxy tags and join in on the rabid screaming over this bye

[puhpandas]

I like that a lot of the tragedy about new fnaf is about how everyone lived, in contrast to the tragedy of old fnaf where everyone died

like gregory vanessa cassie the animatronics everyone had their lives ripped away from them because of the same source, but they didnt end after that.

the animatronics 'lived', but it was in an abandoned falling apart building while they're broken themselves and slowly losing their sanity. gregory survived the mimic and ggy and the streets but he'll never get back those years of childhood he lost or his parents or friends or old life and he has to live with that and the trauma from everything forever

vanessa lost her life and her free will right as she would have been free from her dad for good and was still put down and hated even as her alter ego. she was forced to leave her little support systems and drag other people into the same boat as her and kill people and after she gets freed abruptly she just has to. get back on her feet. and get a job and take care of Gregory and Freddy and somehow keep living a life as normal as anyone else but things are so different and she doesnt get a chance to sit and process everything

cassie doesnt die in the elevator crash and instead goes on to be trapped underground with something getting in her head. she gets taken over all alone by herself thinking that vanny was a friend and getting 'betrayed' again. once again someone's life is ripped away from them as they're forced to serve this virus, and its made a hundred times worse because no matter what it happened to cassie because Gregory wasnt fast enough. and theres so much tragedy in Gregory failing to stop what happened to him from happening to someone else let alone his best friend

and the tragedy that none of them will ever be free despite how they live on unless they kill the mimic and vanny for good, but theyve always just been too scared to do it. "the family missed the greatest opportunity of their lives" "the woman would kill the witch in the morning" they didnt kill them both when they could have and now other people are getting hurt along with themselves having to deal with it again after thinking they were okay.

and theres also tragedy in the glamrocks and how they lived in the pizzaplex. no matter how you view their sentience theyll always be seen as characters and machines and not real people despite how theyre literally alive and living. and alongside that in canon they push the idea of the animatronics not wanting to fit themselves into the character box (freddy) or not feeling like they deserve to be who they're supposed to (roxy) or not even trying to fit the bill because they're so overtaken with anger at it all (monty) or their programming making them crazy and obsessed with their characters gimmick so they're always trapped no matter what (chica). and how fronnie loved eachother but not only would the brand not have allowed it but bonnie gets decommissioned and Fazbear entertainment doesn't see it as worth it to keep him in the character roster so they just. dont. and Freddy has to deal with how unfair that is.

I just love SW era fnaf and how they do tragedy it's very interesting and cool

[gooeyslime]

FNaF SB Ruin spoilers:

The Mimic is real... One one hand I am glad we ditched Afton as the eternal villain but on the other... It just feels like a cop-out because people complained about it being Afton again lol ALSO GREGORY STRAIGHT UP KILLING CASSIE WHAT THE FUCK?! Like yeah ok he destroyed the Glamrocks in the main game but they weren't living people, even in the Disassemble Vanny ending he looks horrified but he's fine killing his friend? Like yeah he was like sad and realistically there was no other choice but still... Can't wait for MatPat to make a "GREGORY IS EVIL!!" theory video... 🙄

[willow-o-wisph]

Movie Posters and Book covers reimagined as FNAF [concept not art]

Warnings: discussion of disturbing imagery, gore, and horror.

None of these ideas are based off the plot of the story and more of the way the poster looked. Just wished to say that before someone told me why poster idea was wrong because of said story plot.

[Feel free to use these ideas but I ask to be tagged if the idea is used so that I can see it. I like looking at cool artwork.]

This poster but redraw it as Michael Afton from FNAF during his Ennard era. Change out the stuff with wires, blood, and some of the remaining internal organs. Blood dripping down his now purple eyes. Clawing at his decomposing face with some of the skin peeling off as he does. It would be a wonderful horror image.

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FNAF 4 Crying Child. Here's my idea. CC kneeling in front of a television playing the Freadbear and Friends cartoon, but have the image be staticed over a bit. Fretboard plushie being on it's back as well in the same position as the poster. But to add onto the image have the nightmare be standing slightly seen in the dark background behind the TV in the same standing order as presented on the TV with the nightmare Fred bear even further behind them with the menacing teeth covered in blood be the most prominent part. The wording on the poster even fits the idea. Have the Poltergeist be turned into Nightmares or something similar.

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Pizza-plex horror poster. I have two ideas that can be mixed and matched around. This isn't as concrete of an idea but spinning of multiple concepts.

1. Have the hand holding the bag be Vanny's and the head in the bag be Vanessa's to symbolize the way that Vanny has taken over Vanessa.

2. Have the hand stay as Vanny but have Gregory's head be in the bag. Showing the worst case scenario that could have happened.

3. Have it be the mimics hand [real or digital] holding Cassie's head in the bag either bare or with the discarded Vanny mask.

But whatever is choosen the bag is changed to a fazbear gift bag, a simple 80s inspired logo, nothing too busy. To add to the horror you could add blood coming from the hole in the bag or from the head in the bag. Either way it's an interesting concept

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William Afton as the man with the bloody knife and the five figures as the five missing children. Make the background the pizzeria and while a simple change over it would be really cool to see where an artist might take it.

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Another FNAF 4 poster idea. This one being from outside the Afton house and the spirits over the top being the nightmares. There's enough faces for it to include a lot more faces. Keep the bedroom window but have the light come from a side view child holding up a flashlight or something similar.

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Another Michael idea. The G in the poster kinda looks like a stylized scooper doesn't it. Keep the clock and blood dripping down it the same, put Michael in his matentence worker uniform and it would make a cool poster. The clock face could even be turned into Baby's face to symbolize where her face appears as a clock face during the game.

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Honestly Just an excuse to draw Bonnie's spirit Jeremy shredding on Bonnie's guitar. Nothing too deep about this one, just a really cool image I wanted everyone to think about.

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Ennard in the sewer. Ennard right after it left Michael's body. The blood still on the sidewalk and some loose wires that didn't make it. Turn the paper boat into Ennard's party hat. Have glowing eyes be seen in the darkness and dried bloody hand like metal be clamping onto the grate.

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Tales from the Pizzaplex with Tiger rock holding the book. Simple one but one I thought would be fun to show for the book fans.

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William holding up a knife to one of his victims. I was thinking Charlie or Cassidy. Have there be some speckles of blood if you believe the missing Children's incident took place over the course of an extended period of time or have it be covered in the blood of the recently killed other children if you believe the killing happen over a very short time span.

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[I might make more parts with more of my ideas later.]

[miss-meichu]

Ok real talk, I've only seen what mark has released at this point (I haven't had time for matpats newest vid)

So, the start of this is confusing in itself, bc 1) where is this starting? Because in the endings from SB I don't believe they leave off with the prospect of Gregory still there.

Which, that's definitely not Greg anyway right? It's something else using his voice, that I'm sure about.

2) wth is going on in general like, AR? Just randomly introduced? I love it don't get me wrong, the AR bunny dude is cool as fuck. I think he's not a bad guy, from what I've seen he's just trying to keep Cassie off of the V.A.N.N.I. network, which, yeah fair.

But that begs the question if he's trying to keep us off the network did he attempt to do so with Vanny? Or is it different for us?

Also Roxy apologizing is the cutest shit ever, I love her sm.

Monty's coding is adorable he's like a feral dog

Chicka...I don't know how I feel about her yet, I'm sad about how she seems to be so.. paranoid? That when she eats trash now she is always looking behind her.

It's sad and I don't really like Gregory tbh, I mean, yes he was trying to survive last game but it still seems kind of... excessive.

Anyway thats just a few thoughts.

[dykevanny]

hello im gonna combine my blorbos. any headcanons about Ness and Cassie?

aw hell yeah i do

In a situation where cassie and roxy make it out of the plex and run into 3 stars and everything is fine. I think at first ness is just very careful around cassie more than anything, and cassie doesn’t know her but appreciates xem looking after gregory. And since gregory trusts her xe can’t be that bad surely? But when they do warm up to each other they get along pretty good i think. Both love bright colors and cassie gets a new victim to paint the nails of. Ness makes a specifically roxy-designed cane for her :]

i doooo think . Cassie is keeping the vanny mask because it’s become a sort of comfort item for her…. Which is the exact opposite of how vanessa feels about it. Ness ofc is not going to express this and just kind of deals with the stress of seeing it . Luckily cassie’s picked up on that and doesn’t get it out around her.

Also if we’re talking vannie then ohhhhhhh man. Ness feels so fucking bad because she WAS vanny she thinks she must understand how cassie feels and wants to helppp…. cassie’s using the mask after upgrading it to get revenge… against faz ent for leaving the glams to rot, and against gregory for dropping the elevator. She’s not being directly controlled like how ness was, since cassie’s working with the mimic (who initially was angry and broke the elevator in a moment of rage, but then realized she might be useful/mimic is a bit more reluctant to kill kids without will telling it what to do, bc of it’s original code as a child’s companion(well my version of mimi)) and mimic of course has a very biased view of ness greg and fred… that is influencing cassie’s view of them. Long story short ness wants to HELP and cassie doesn’t WANT her help. Ness wants to get cassie away from mimic but cassie’s mad because mimic is like her! Because ness and greg left it to die even though they were friends right?

Also if we’re talking situation in which indigo is real… ness meets cassie at first bc indigo had to babysit her and dragged ness along . They hit it off alright but cassie is lowkey like 🤨 are you dating my cousin……

i think cassie thinks she’s super cool also. Like wowww…. She’s fashionable and kind of scary and can punch people thats awesome….. ness thinks she’s real nice and appreciates her optimistic view of things. She’s also glad to see Gregory has a friend his age LOL

thwyre friends real and true 👍👍