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The way they try to characterize Miq in the DLC is just all over the place omg. He's wise enough to see the problem at its root, but not enough to realize that godhood isn't worth it and that he'd perpetuate the cycle. He's also not wise enough to pick a lord based on anything other than??? A childhood crush? Strong and kind, yup.

He's smart enough to have figured out where the Gate of Divinity is and how to use it, but not enough to know the Tarnished, whose whole thing is becoming Lord, would come after him. He has blinding strength, but had to send the twin he loved, and didn't want to succumb to the rot, to potentially do exactly that in facing against Radahn.

His bewitching is ultra powerful and he's cool with using it to achieve his goals, but couldn't have bewitched Radahn and baited him off a cliff or something to snatch his soul.

He's desperate to become a god, but he's fine sitting with this plan that hinges on someone killing Mohg and Radahn, or wait for the rot to kill him. He has enough follow through to become a god and make good on a vow from ??? ago, despite the nascency curse, but not enough to follow through for whatever purpose he gave us Torrent and the Spirit Tuning Bell, or do literally anything else.

Also, Ranni says she was "once" an empyrean, at a stage where the only thing she did in her plan was slay her "empyrean flesh". So it sounds like having empyrean flesh is an important part of being an empyrean? Because otherwise, there would have been no point in killing Godwyn's soul and her body? Or all the other demigods? So how is Miquella able to abandon his empyrean flesh in the cocoon, and then whatever the other flesh in the Land of Shadows is, and still become a god? Does being an empyrean just mean nothing?

Of all the too many cookbooks we got, I wish we got one for the Tonic of Forgetfulness. Time for DS1 I guess. At least the DLC final boss isn't Capra Demon, consort of Artorias.

Yes to all of this 👏

Miquella's character writing, thanks to the, is all over the damn place and I hate it. Miquella the Unalloyed and Miquella the Kind are genuinely two different characters and it's infuriating.

And Imo the thing that frustrates me the most is how in the base game Miquella was portrayed as this unparalleled genius, but in the DLC his "plan" is just so stupid, especially the Mohg part, because it's left so intentionally vague(about the circumstance of the kidnapping) but also in your face about Miq using Mohgs body for the Promised Retcon.

This whole thing literally makes no fucking sense and is frankly far too risky of a plan in general, like fuck, if we all remember that in the base game even Gideon had no fucking clue who Mohg even was or where he was hiding.

And you're trying to tell me that Miquella was seriously riding on a plan that quite literally hinged on the rare fucking chance and pure dumb luck that someone would come along and kill Mohg????

Miquella sending Malenia to kill Radahn to free the stars and cause the Eclipse to revive Godwyn made more sense and has more base game basis than this shit 😒

Absolutely horrendous writing, I will never forgive how they dumbed down Miquella the Unalloyed.

#ugh #i cry #i hate bad writing 😭#uri answers

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fun little twisted wonderland thing i was thinking about recently* bc of a video i watched about carnival games

*(this was like MONTHS ago, so it took a bit of jogging my memory when i got back to this lol)

First Years Play Fairgrounds Games

The first years decide to spend a Saturday together at the fairgrounds. Yuu points out how the games they find are all extremely similar to the ones back in their world. And if that's true then they'll have trouble winning a prize with their kind of luck. Grim is convinced he can win the prizes himself, even proclaiming that he could beat the others at every game. With that, the competitive nature of the group kicks in and now they have to prove who can bring home the most big winning prizes. 1 point for small prizes, 2 points for big prizes.

Ace Trappola:

The gang heads to the Milk Bottle Toss and he hangs back a bit so the other boys try the games first. It was after Ace's successful milk bottle knock out when Deuce realized he just mimicked Jack's form perfectly. Some might consider this cheating, but the way Ace sees it he's simply taking and applying what he observes. (+2)

He is forced to go first at every booth now.

Ortho is very impressed in Ace's ability to mimic, having been familiar with this unique skill from working on the Fairy Gala together, while Sebek reprimands Ace for his underhanded scheming. Grim argues that the big prize he just won from cheating should go under Grim's score in the competition. Epel counters that the point should probably go to Jack since it was his form that won Ace the prize in the first place. Jack says that if he's going to win, he's not going to do it with pity points. Deuce says the point should go to Yuu since Grim's the one playing for the two of them. Ace agrees, saying that Yuu and Grim's scores won't be a threat to his chances of winning anyways. (-2)

He manages to win a small prize at the Ring Toss, getting 3 of the 5 rings on the glass bottles. Grim laughs that Ace really isn't all that impressive without piggybacking off of other people, to which Ace shoots back, "Bold words for someone sitting on Yuu's shoulders." (+1)

His best score is from the Basketball Shootout, winning him a big prize. It took him a shot to adjust to the height and distance (compared to an actual basketball court set-up) but he didn't need to sink any more money into that one, and managed to put his name on the board for the competition. (+2)

He's pretty good at the Balloon Darts, since a lot of that is precise wrist work, which is also important for magic tricks. He managed to get the flick of the wrist just right, but only after a few whiffs at the beginning, ending with a small prize winning. (+1)

With the Chance games, the Wheel of Fate got him a big prize, and the Fishing Game left him fishless. He was surprisingly good at Whack-A-Mole, but only getting a small prize in the end. (+2) (+1)

Total Score: 9 points

Deuce Spade:

When the competition was first proposed, Deuce was against it, thinking that an Honor Student wouldn’t make a fun and relaxing day at the fairgrounds into something intense for the sake of pride. However, with the right buttons pushed by Ace, and Epel’s “uncharacteristic” enthusiasm, he started to reconsider. Thanks to Yuu’s words of encouragement to participate with the group, he ultimately caves.

In fact, he was initially the one to lead, giving the booth’s the first attempt (until Ace got caught, of course).

At the Milk Toss, he manages to get a small prize, knocking half of the stacked bottles down! After him was Jack, and Ace followed. Deuce, involuntarily familiar with Ace’s antics, was able to pick up on the way Ace watched Jack with intense focus. It wasn’t until Ace threw his last ball at the stack of bottles did Deuce realize how Ace copied Jack’s form. (+2)

Next is the Ring Toss. Deuce couldn’t get the wrist flick right, and only managed to get one ring on a bottle. Unfortunately, this didn’t qualify for any prize. Ace, of course, couldn’t help but rub it in his face that he managed to get 3 rings on. (0)

At the Basketball Shootout, he expected Ace to do exceptionally well, so that was no surprise. What did surprise him was how he managed to win a small prize himself! He’s a lot better at games with bigger targets (hoops>bottle necks), so he was able to get enough baskets to make up for his ring toss performance. (+1)

With this logic, you’d expect him to not do well with Balloon Darts, but he actually gets himself a big prize. Epel wonders how he pulled that off, and Deuce admits that he and his middle school friends often played darts, so the muscle memory was still there to help target the balloons. Sebek commends Deuce’s display of hand-eye-coordination, which surprises Deuce for receiving a sincere compliment from him. (+2)

For the Chance games, he spins the Wheel of Fate and gets a small prize and is fishless from the Fishing Game. But with his speed and strength, he wins a big prize from Whack-a-Mole! (+1) (+2)

Total Score: 8 points

Jack Howl:

As you would expect, Jack did incredibly well with the Milk Bottle Toss and won himself a big prize. The praise from Deuce, Epel, and Yuu had his tail whirling, making it very difficult to seem unaffected by their words. (+2)

And~ as you would expect, Jack was quite pissed when it was brought to light that Ace copied off his work. Like any competition, he wanted things to be fair and square to prove just how skilled he is. He also didn’t like the idea of being given points he didn’t earn himself, so he rejected the idea of Ace handing the 2 points over to him. Similar to Ace’s thinking, giving Grim and Yuu the points wouldn’t be a problem as Grim is the last competitor he’s concerned about (and Yuu couldn’t pay for both of them to play the games so Yuu can keep the prize itself). He swears that’s his only reasoning.

He was better at the Ring Toss than Deuce, and even Ace, getting 4 of the 5 rings on bottles. This gets him a big prize! He and his younger siblings often played this game back home. (+2)

Similar to Deuce, Jack does really well with Basketball Shootout! He only manages to get a small prize, because let’s be real, how are you going to beat a basketball club member at a basketball themed game booth? A lot of what was throwing him off was tossing the ball too high and hitting the backboard too hard. (+1)

Throwing softballs at milk bottles is a lot different than throwing darts at balloons, and unfortunately Jack doesn’t do so hot, making it his first major loss for the afternoon. While Ace laughs at the major whiffs, Sebek lecturing him about the importance of training all of your body, even the smallest movements in your wrists. (0)

At the Chance Games, the Wheel of Fate gave him a small prize, his speed and strength getting him a big prize at Whack-A-Mole, and he even got himself a fish at the fishing game! He wasn’t sure what he was going to do with it, and considered giving it to his younger siblings. He figures he’ll take care of it until the next vacation he heads back home to give it to them. (+1) (+2) (+2)

Total Score: 10 points

Epel Felmier:

These city slickers don’t know what’s coming. This country boy has attended the annual country fair every year since he was a little kid. His family would always have a booth open for apple themed carnival food, like caramel apples, apple fritters, fried apple hand pies, you name it. Because of this, he often got to roam the fairgrounds (with a chaperone obviously) and play all sorts of games like these.

Milk Bottle Toss? Easy-Peezy. He takes two of the three shots to knock all the bottles down, making sure to aim for the bottle row to have the whole stack topple over. He can’t help but bask in the praise from his more competitive peers (Deuce, Jack, and Sebek), but it was really Yuu’s astonished praise that really motivates Epel to win this competition at all costs. (+2)

Ring Toss? No Problem. He gets 4 of the 5 rings on the bottle necks, though he expected himself to better considering his experience with these games. At the very least, he matched Jack’s score, so he can’t be too hard on himself about it. (+2)

Basketball Shootout? Well… He didn’t do so hot with this one, only getting a small prize, but nobody wanted to be the one to tell him it could be because of his height (even Sebek had the tact to refrain). It was actually Ortho who wanted to help with analytics of the height difference and form. Epel, knowing Ortho means well, simply grit his teeth and thanked him. (+1)

He makes his big comeback with Balloon Darts, popping them left and right. Carving apples requires a lot of hand and wrist control, so adjusting and applying it to throwing darts helped him a lot. Sebek, having already been impressed by his apple carving, praises him for his performance, even telling Jack that he should be striving for this level of control. (+2)

With the Chance Games, the Wheel of Fate thought he'd won too many big prizes that day, it seemed, so it only gave him a small one. He does get a fish at the Fishing Game, though! And he kills it at Whack-A-Mole with a big prize in the end. (+1) (+2) (+2)

Total Score: 11 points

Sebek Zigvolt:

At first, Sebek thought that such a competition was beneath him. Why would a fae lower themselves to participate in something so trivial? He was originally just going to observe, watching Deuce, Jack, and Ace go at the Milk Bottle Toss. However, Ace’s utter disrespect for the display of skill of throwing a softball had him livid, enough to “show you humans how it’s done.” So after Epel had his chance, and was impressed by his honest show of skill, Sebek gave it a go.

And boy did it go. Struck right in the center bottle. You’d think that’d topple all the bottles, but really it just left a hole in the bottle’s absence. His throw was so precise and fast, much like pulling a tablecloth off a table and not disturbing the dishware, the remaining bottles hadn’t budged. He had hoped to get it in one toss, but it sadly took him all 3 softballs to knock it all down. He won the big prize! But this certainly played with his pride. Now the competition is more so between him and whatever booth activity stands before him. (+2)

Ring toss was a fair enough fight. He and Silver used to play something similar back when they were kids. But it wasn’t part of their training, so it took more time to adjust his form, and only managed to get 3 of his 5 rings on the bottles. Oh, you KNOW Ace had to rub it in that Sebek was sure talking all high and might with his fae superiority nonsense, only to get an average score. (+1)

He doesn't do well with the Basketball Shootout. He's never played basketball, and there was nothing like this in his training regime so he has nothing really to go off of with this one, leading him to getting no prize in the end. (0)

But he’s not always just Talk, as he does excellent at Balloon Dart, just as he had made a point of the importance of wrist control. With all these prizes, he’s not thinking about how his haul would impress Malleus and Lilia, and begins to wonder if any of these cheaply made prizes at this fair are worthy enough to be gifted to either of them. “I suppose Silver can have whatever it is that Malleus and Lilia don’t choose.” (he is totally making sure to pick at least a couple prizes he thinks Silver would genuinely like). (+2)

The Wheel of Fate, despite the rough handling Sebek gave it when spinning it as hard as he did, gave him a small prize. To make up for it, and because he’s a croc fae (fanon), of COURSE he got himself a fish at the Fishing Game. (He has half a mind to call it Waka-sama Jr.) And he does extremely well at Whack-A-Mole, reminiscing of a training activity very similar to this one, but with Lilia controlling the speed. This Whack-A-Mole is actually beneath him. (+1) (+2) (+2)

Total Score: 10 points

Ortho Shroud:

In order to make it fair, Ortho agreed to turn off his aimbot, so now he has to calculate his shots in a similar way a human would. He wins a few small prizes from the Milk Bottle Toss and Ring toss. He missed the Balloon Darts since the darts and balloons were smaller than the other targets and projectiles. (+1) (+1)

He got one basket in the Basketball Shootout, but on his last ball, so he only got a small prize. It helped him really respect Ace's skill in the sport without the use of supercomputer calculations and aimbots to assist him. (+1)

He much prefers the games of chance as it reminded him of all the fun games he and Idia played growing up. However, he spun the Wheel of Fate so hard it almost rolled off its axle, but he got a big prize out of it! He won a fish at the Fishing Game, and he got super excited at the prospect of taking care of a little fish all by himself, and planned to look into proper goldfish care. (+2) (+1)

He broke the Whack-A-Mole machine, though. (Luckily, he was the last of the group to try this one.) He repaid the booth runner for the damages with Shroud Family money, and although the booth runner wanted to make a quick buck out of the (deceptively) innocent looking child, Ortho was able to appraise the machine for much cheaper than the asking price. So although he didn't win a prize from it, at least he didn't get swindled (can be considered its own victory lol).

He learned a lot of what the human body is capable of, and looks forward to analyzing his recordings of the day’s events to apply to his body as time goes on.

Total Score: 6 points

Grim:

Yuu gave him a fair chance at the start of the visit but soon realized that his lack of opposable thumbs seems to hinder his capability of winning any game that involves technical skills. So to make sure he doesn't sink too much of their shared money, Yuu decided to turn his attention towards games of Chance. (Thankfully they got Ace’s initial big prize to get them on the board) (+2)

[Before Ortho had his turn] He's really good at Whack-A-Mole, though it's debatable whether standing on the machine was allowed. The person running the booth thought Grim was so cute pouncing at the moles, she was willing to overlook the issue and presented him his big prize. (+2)

For Wheel of Fate, Grim has Yuu spin it for him, but doesn't win anything substantial, only a small baggie of candy. Grim blames Yuu's bad luck on that one but happily eats all the candy himself. (+1)

He was banned from the Fishing Game booth when the booth runner realized he mysteriously lost more fish than he's had players attempt his game. Grim's huge burp was the booth runner's biggest indicator.

Yuu decides to take him to the kiddie games (without telling him they were kiddie games). Grim felt like a king with how many prizes he won from those (thinking they were still games of chance and that his luck was the greatest in the group.) He rubbed it in their faces, but they all had to just let him have it this time. (+1)

Total Score: 6 points

In the end, Epel is the winner, but what would you expect? A country boy put on a flat lot full of fairgrounds games, he’s in his element. Now the next step for the boys is figuring out what to do with all these prizes…

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this was fun to write. i don't ever write these kinds of things for any fandom, but it was fun thinking of which character did better than the others with the different games. i also hope i did each character justice, like i didnt shortchange any of them. (i was particularly worried about sebek's section since he's not really a character i ever think about, which is why i wanted to make extra sure his section had substance to it lol).

i hope this was enjoyable to read, and i'd love to hear your thoughts on who 🫵YOU think should have won in the end!

#twisted wonderland #disney twisted wonderland #twst #ace trappola #deuce spade #jack howl #epel felmier #ortho shroud #sebek zigvolt #ugh i hate putting so many tags on things i feel like im spamming the tags even though all these are actually relevant lmao #dont look at me but also please enjoy a thing i made if you look at me i was cry and run away #thinking out loud #long post

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