#i am palestinian and i exist

[unbidden-yidden-deactivated20240]

Them: Are you a Zionist or an anti-Zionist Jew?

Me: ...

Them: Or maybe perhaps you are a non-Zionist or maybe a post-Zionist?

Me: I reject the premise of this question.

[the-ships-to-rule-them-all]

the level at which people are misusing the term "Never Again" in the far left absolutely infuriates me.

"Never Again" doesn't refer to the idea of no more genocides -- unfortunately people are evil and corrupt and seek scapegoats and destruction, there were genocides in the years following the Holocaust, there were genocides 10 years ago, there are multiple genocides going on as we speak

"Never Again" means we as Jews will pay attention to the warning signs, will not mindlessly allow antisemitism to fester and take over our communities, we will fight back. it means we will be proud. it means we will not let you hate us without a word of refusal.

"Never Again" is a warning for us, it is a reminder that what happened then can happen now -- is happening now. The Far Left doesn't get to use it against us. You don't get to turn our tragedies into hate-speech and antisemitic rhetoric.

Am Yisrael Chai

[artistformerlyknownasbutttrumpet]

Your election post was the most holier-than-thou, performative, bullshit I’ve ever read. Get a grip and get some self awareness.

i will take "missed the entire point" for 500, alex

[notaplaceofhonour]

welp, time to take the “leftist podcast that’s most normal about jews” award away from knowledge fight 🙃

[givemearmstopraywith]

anon who is "not a zionist" and "not a jew": you need to educate yourself and stop uncritically inhaling every piece of pro-imperialist, pro-zionist propaganda that falls into your lap. you are living in a state of fear that is completely fabricated and i feel sorry for you. also this?

is a truly insane thing to say to me, a jew, when i have been very open about my immediately family members having survived the holocaust, as in my mother is named after a baby who was murdered by the nazis in dachau, as in i have uncles and aunts who lived in ghettos, and the fact that i have to air out MY generational trauma on this stupid website to get people like you to back off is truly fucking insane. you should not be weaponizing the trauma of an entire ethnic group against us while simultaneously claiming you care so much about how we are oppressed. newsflash: you are being antisemitic. jews created anti-zionism. jews were religiously against the creation of an israeli state the moment we entered the diaspora and again the moment it become a political movement. anti-zionism was a jewish movement before it became anything else.

how dare you come into my space spreading propaganda about something you clearly know nothing about, how dare you claim to care about jews while accusing me of not caring about my own generational trauma and my own people and trying to weaponize one genocide against another.

how are you care so little about the lives of palestinians that you can dismiss their suffering because you cling so much to this bizarre idea of "western values." western values killed jews. western values are killing palestinians. the fact that you are able to dismiss the dignity and right to life of palestinian people and ignore their suffering shows me that you do not care about jews at all, you care about your precious moral high ground and sense of individualism, because if this situation were reversed and it was jews suffering and it was jews who were the target of vicious, baseless, hateful propaganda, you would swallow it uncritically. you are not a good person. you are as good as a nazi in 1945 because you are a zionist in 2024.

[11-angry-bees]

btw if you are a us citizen and you choose not to vote in the elections this year, your opinion on the results of the election does not matter

[thedreadvampy]

legitimately insane how to some people, "we should wipe out this ethnic group that we've violently constrained to a ghetto because they're just genetically more violent and dangerous" is a reasonable and justifiable statement but it's Nazi Rhetoric to say something like, "it's bad that Israeli civilians are being killed but acknowledging that as tragic includes acknowledging that the almost daily state-sanctioned murder of civilians by the Israeli government is also tragic and unacceptable"

btw guys speaking of Nazi shit - can we check in, alongside what's been done to Palestinians in the last 75 years, what's the Israeli government's take on the Azerbaijani government's newest round of ethnic cleansing of Armenians? oh are the Israeli government's actions maybe not determined by Jewish identity, but by a commitment to colonial supremacy which puts them on the same page as other violently genocidal states like Azerbaijan, the US, and the UK? god can you Even Imagine?

(framing speaking against Israeli war crimes as inherently antisemitic requires understanding the Israeli state as representing all Jewish people, when it doesn't even represent all Israelis.

framing Israeli war crimes as synonymous with Jewish identity is pretty fucked up if we're being honest. I don't think that controlling water and power and movement for a captive population and shooting children dead for throwing stones is an inherent value of Judaism, any more than I think the torture carried out at Guantanamo Bay is an inherent value of Christianity - in both cases they're atrocities carried out by a far right genocidal government using religious identity as a shield.

Calling statements like "Israel is committing genocide against the people it's displaced" inherently antisemitic is doing more to further the idea that all Jewish people are associated with Israel than saying "the Israeli government is doing war crimes," which is a statement of fact about a country that exists and does war crimes. Is criticism of Israel as a nation often used as cover for antisemitism? Absolutely. Does that mean the Israeli government isn't doing literal war crimes repeatedly, on record, while talking publicly about scrubbing an ethnic group off the map? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well in the last 48 hours they've definitely cut off water and power to almost 600,000 civilians and allegedly used white phosphorus against civilians so in an extremely factual and unambiguous way yeah man those are Literal War Crimes whoever does them.)

[wellthatswhatithought]

idk I just think the antizionist/pro-palestine mvmt would have much more success if some of you stopped saying such headass shit all the time

[load--star]

Before you defend Israel's actions as "protecting its people from terrorists," remember that Israel considers all Palestinians terrorists. It's easy to kill innocent people when you dehumanize them and reduce them to a stereotype. Free Palestine

[choixsimple]

when saying "I just don't understand why this level of aggressive violence, supply blockade, and civilian casualty is necessary in 2024" results in people saying to your face that you "support terrorism and want the hostages to die" you start thinking maybe the human race wasn't built for any level of nuance

[malkaleh]

I am so tired. It is so hard, I cannot actually explain how hard it has been to learn in such raw blatant terms how much people hate you for being Jewish. I think especially as a Mizrahi Jewish woman and especially as someone who considers herself progressive/leftist. Like I always knew - I knew going back years that to be Jewish is to be safe nowhere in the world but wow, the extent to which it has hit home and I will never forget it.

(The one thing I ask, the only thing I ask is that you recognise that Jewish people, all of us, are indigenous to the land. You do not have to like Israel. You do not have to not advocate fiercely for Palestinian lives, for Palestinian children and for safety and human rights. You do not even have to include disclaimers in this. I do not ask that. All I ask as a woman whose Jewish family was expelled from Persia and Syria long before the modern state of Israel, who has been grieving, who loathes Netanyahu is that you recognise all this, if you have ever been my friend. And if you don’t, please just unfollow and block me now. I am on the edge of suicide anyway, I have no more to lose, no more pain that I have not inflicted upon myself. I can’t do this. I can’t.

I can’t.

[chaiaurchaandni]

another reminder that iof pigs are using the bombing of gaza as a cover for invading the jenin refugee camp

[the-ships-to-rule-them-all]

I don’t think people realize how all consuming October 7, the war and the rising antisemitism is to most Jews right now. I was just on a five day family trip and nearly every single conversation ended up circling back to what’s going on in Israel, across the world and at home. My mom knew Vivian Silver, an incredible peace activist thought to be held hostage and I had to sit there and watch her realize that not only was Vivian murdered at her home 38 days before but that she was likely burned if it took this long for her body to be identified. I was forced to sit there and watch my mom, my favorite woman in the world, watch her face crumple. We were sharing updates, accounts to follow, venting and releasing frustrations. It is a constant unbreakable struggle right now for me and most Jews I know to not be glued to our phones, to not pay attention. Because we’ve seen what happens when we don’t. Because we can’t afford to turn our backs on what’s going on. And there’s a deep ever present grief not only for the victims of October 7th, the innocent citizens of Gaza, the hostages and also for my own personal sense of safety and security. I am also grieving what is a shattering beyond measure of my present and future trust in people as I’ve witnessed how easily well intentioned kind hearted people have decided to say nothing, publicly or privately, or who have quickly fallen into vicious antisemitic rhetoric. I’m just sharing into the void at this point but it’s been unimaginably hard on a personal level. I’m not the same person I was when I went to bed on October 6. It’s as though I’m a shadow, made of grief and anger and tiny fractured bits of hope. Every piece of joy feels as though it’s been muted because of how quickly it fades. And even the moments that last are related to my Jewish identity somehow. I am not sure where I go from here.

Have a cat gif for reading all of that

[yourgamemasterthewhiterabbit]

Okay, I might be missing a lot of things here, and I am hoping someone can clear this up for me with some understanding and nuance... But like all religious aspects of this asides, and if you set aside whatever cultural reasons this is happening despite the extreme loss of life etc... Just speaking politically, as a nation, here on earth with ongoing earth politics... What does Israel -the government responsible in this- think it is accomplishing?

Like yes, outwardly their arguments, Zionism, is about taking a homeland "back" and just ignoring that the people who currently live there are natural born residents that shouldn't be forced out of their homes, but if we set that asides for a second, what do they think is ACTUALLY going to happen? Long term.

Say they succeed in their aims, right? Say they wipe out every Palestinian so there's no one to challenge their claim to that land, and everyone in power helped them do it. Say they get that land. Say they successfully scapegoat anti-Zionist Jewish people into taking the heat world over, and that's a successful distraction.

What do they think happens next?

Do they think they get to rebuild a nation there and be left in peace?

Ignore religious and cultural implications for a second and bear with me...

You have a land that's recently been utterly destroyed. Even if a nation's worth of Zionists, and everyone who's kind of stuck trying to live under the Israeli government who had no real say in this, swoop in after and rebuilt it for themselves.. What do they think their political position will be in the world after that, or during it?

In a world where antisemitism is at an all time high, globally, and they just alienated and antagonized all other Jewish people and all allies by doing a fucking genocide... With their military force depleted and this land they just won torn to shreds...

Do they think countries like America selling them guns now are going to keep supporting them and giving them resources to build themselves up?

Or do they realize it's far more likely that they will immediately become the next target, the next political enemy of the USA, because they are a small, now exhausted nation of a minority group that just ensured no one will come to their rescue or defense?

America will see the error of their ways, they were 'lied to' documents have come out showing what really happened there and they had 'no idea' and now Israel "needs to answer for it's war crimes :("...

Because every instinct tells me that any nation helping them take over this land and promising to help rebuild it isn't doing it to help Israel... They are doing it so that once the dust settles Israel will be standing weakly on a broken land and be easy to knock down to take whatever natural resources are left with no resistance.

... Like idk THE FUCKING OIL... Which I doubt miraculously stops right at Gaza's borders and etc just because it hasn't been dug up there yet...

At best this is about access to that oil and their allies will only use them so long as that oil is handed to them for peanuts and after that Israel will have served it purpose.

And the citizens of Israel will pay the price, the ones who were as stuck with their government as the average American is stuck with the GOP, and Jewish people the world over will pay for something they never wanted and were against all along.

The only conclusion I can draw from this is whoever is in power here is using it to make a quick buck and bail, and is just taking advantage of Zionism to do it, and that everyone is going to end up completely fucked even if they succeed, maybe even the USA and whoever was responsible for this in the governments lending a hand to Israel when it becomes really clear in hindsight -to the general public- that this genocide was over some fucking oil. That they destroyed the people and land of an entire nation for a few more years of accelerated global warming.

Do the people fighting and bombing and supporting this not see the pattern here? Or are they mostly in on it? They have to be in on it because all that's going to be left is rubble and tears in the land. They can't possibly think they will take on America next and get anywhere? Or that American aid and charity won't exhaust itself once they have what they want? [And I am referring to Canada's alliance with the states and involvement in this too]

Do we need to remind anyone of America's history involving itself in the affairs of other nations? It's very recent and ongoing 'history'... Or is that understanding unspoken and simmering under the layer of horrors we're a little distracted by at the moment?

That this is about oil, that there will be no homeland for anyone, just more blood. Just a graveyard torn open and bleeding black.

[bandzboy]

i’ve seen like three people a row that i follow on ig posting that all eyes on rafah image that is clearly ai like why are you people sharing that instead of actual photos of rafah or graphics to show support? don’t piss me off

[butch4maryoliver]

the leftist sphere online and its insistence that nuance is critical while it completely waives it and transforms major issues into black-and-white is so….