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The Owl House overlooked/loose Plot treads (Updated)
There are a LOT of unresolved, unaddressed, and forgotten mysteries, characters, and plots that had to be cut short because of the shortening so... I decided to search and list as many of these as possible! Because there is just so much we missed and this is my way to cope.
Plot threads:
What was Darius's mentor's name? and why/how was he "eliminated"? (was he who inspired/influenced Darius to form his own rebellion?)
How did Darius even uncover the Draining spell? did he sneak inside Belos's office and snatch the paper? did he overhear Belos talking with the Collector? did the previous Golden Guard leave him some hints as to what Belos' plan was all about?
How did the CATTs (Amber, Derwin, and Skara) escape the Conformatorium after Eda's requiem? Did Raine break them out? was it Darius? Steve? [Possible Answer: it seems that the cell they were throw-in was actually open]
How did Bump manage to implement multitracking in Hexide? Assuming that at one point, the Emperor's coven sent an actual inspector to the school, how did the detention kids and Bump deal with that?
What about the other magic schools? we never got to see Glandus High or St. Epiderm.
What happened with the Greater Basilisk? It was implied that the emperor's coven took her so... is she dead?
How did belos revive the basilisks? was the Collector involved in that or did he figure out that one on his own? what method did he use? If the collector give him the draining spell, then what was even the point of resurrecting them in the first place?
What exactly is the relationship between Hunter and Darius like? mentor? father figure? friend? After giving Hunter a scroll and promising him to keep Flapjack secret we really never got a proper look at their relationship after all of that. After all of those years of giving Hunter the cold shoulder, Darius must have dedicated a lot of time to gain Hunter's trust.
Grimwalkers, how did Belos discover their existence? The only explanation that comes to mind is that he found the "recipe" in some forgotten temple or that The Collector help him develop it throught trial and error. Althrought the books Hunter found imply that the Demon Realm knows to a certain extent of their existence.
What was that little box containing the puzzle and map to the Titan's Blood? and who put it there and why? Because I genuinely find it disjointed from everything, like, not even a hint was placed about who made it and for who.
What happened to the other basilisk that escaped with Vee, and what was their relationship like? We know they are fine at the end but where did they go? Were they just hiding, or were they searching for Vee? Were they like siblings to her? if not then why bother to stick together? maybe they did care for her...
During Vee's flashback of her time in captivity, we saw 5 cages... We know who inhabited cages 5, 4, and 3. Assuming that the greater basilisk was part of this row of cages, we are missing one basilisk. Who are they and where did they go? What did Belos do to them?
What was the aftermath of Eda's first transformation into the Owl Beast like? what did Lilith do after Eda ran away? What was Gween and Deell's first reaction to the whole situation?
Who was the owner of the Bat Queen? After what was said in the last PostHoot, and the possible connection between her and the tower of the Owl House, well, now I really want to know who.
How many Titans/islands exit in the Demon Realm? We know that other landmasses exist beyond the Demon realm, but we only know of two civilizations, The boiling Isles and the Titan Trappers Island. Are there the only ones? are there more somewhere out there?
Luz and Vee's relationship. There are obviously some unresolved issues between them which we never got to see being resolved. How did Luz feel about Vee being a better daughter to Camila? about Vee making friends in only a few months while she never got one throught her whole life in the human realm? How did she feel about getting a new demon sibling after seemingly losing one just a few days/weeks ago?
Philip and Caleb's relationship. We can only assume and interpret things based on what we saw in Belos's mindscape and what Masha told the Hexsquad.
Evelyn and Caleb's relationship. During the last PostHoot Dana described their relationship as something that developed slowly, but apart from that, we have nothing
Philip's arrival to the Demon realm. We don't have any specifics about when and how Philip ended up in the demon realm, did he follow Caleb exactly when he crossed with Evelyn? did it take him years to muster the courage to cross the portal or find him or it took him years just to find him when already in the demon realm?
What's up with the other coven heads? Hettie Cutborn? maybe she is a buff vampire. Vitmir? no idea what his deal is but he is definitely evil. Osran? also evil, but in a more cynical way. Mason? He gives me family man vibes.
How did Masha and the other Cabin 7 kids feel about the real Luz? it wasn't even addressed how Vee feels about the whole situation, heck she seemingly replaced them with Luz's friends! there is just a lot to unpack there...
What exactly is Raine's relationship with their... apprentices? (Amber, Katay, and Derwin) how did they all meet each other and how did they end up forming the rebellion?
Amity's palisman, how and when did she get them? Was the Bat Queen involved? Was Ghost Odalia's palisman?
Darius and Eberwolf… They seem so close, yet so personality-wise so different from one another. Maybe one day we will see how deep their dynamic goes.
Steve and Matt, we know they are half brothers, but what is their relationship really like? Wouldn't be a surprise if Matt resents him for "abandoning" him for the Emperor's coven.
Flora D'splora's original role and relevance to the story. The crew released a painting that was meant to be part of Hollow mind's background that depicts an unsettling scene of Belos alongside Flora... What was supposed to mean? Was Florea meant to be an antagonist? Or was it all just because of driving Lilith to find the time pools?
Vee and Hunter are literally siblings: kids artificially created by Belos to accomplish a single purpose, had to lie about their identity to make friends, both belong to an extinct species, their names are literally just titles the dynamic between them was literally the thing I wanted to most from Season 3... cries
Viney, Barcus, and Jerbo. I genuinely wanted to see what their newfound freedom to study any type of magic led them to. Possibly nothing important but considerating how multitracking became a thing at one point during the second season...
Hunter, buddy, how did you not recognize Kikimora's voice in For the Future? you worked alongside her your whole life! Don't take this one seriusly
How did Camila and Vee's relationship develop after the lie was no more? we know that at the end Vee is practically a Noceda, but how did they both handle the aftermath of Yesterday's lie? Did Camila at one point resent Vee for what she did, aware that if it wasn't for Luz's arrival, the lie would have continued indefinitely? Did Vee apologize and/or told Camila why she did it? Again, there is a lot to unpack there.
Personally, considerating all of these, I believe that if the Owl House ever gets a spin-off, it needs to be about what we missed because of the shortening. Like, don't get me wrong, A Young Eda and/or Evelyn sounds nice but I don't think that a whole series dedicated to them is necessary. Why not a little bit of everything? 1 episode for each one of these, maybe 2 if it seems necessary. We can finally get some closure for some of the characters that suffered from the shortening (Vee, Darius, Raine, Bosha, the Catss, etc) and get some well-needed answers for much of everything.
If I miss something, make me know and I will add them!
#toh spinoff#camila noceda#darius deamonne#toh golden guard#toh basilisk#toh cabin 7#toh catts#toh rant#raine whispers#toh eberwolf#amity blight#toh collector#hunter the golden guard#vee the basilisk#vee noceda#toh owl beast#toh speculation#the owl house#Hunter the grimwalker#toh bat queen
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Vee, whispering: So... The others don't know about you... know? Hunter, also whispering: ...No, not yet... the same in your side?
Vee: Yeah, Luz promised to try to keep my... friends in contact to prevent them from getting suspicious.
Hunter: Uh... good to know.
Vee: Yeah...
*Awkard silence*
Hunter: ...Camila is a good person.
Vee: ...Yeah, she truly is.
Hunter: You...
Vee: ...Si?
Hunter: Maybe later or... wherever you have time... like, teach me how to be a normal person?
Vee: W-what do you mean by that?
Hunter: O-OH! you know... well, you know about the whole child soldier and Grimwalker thing, and since your... life wasn't that easy either I was hoping that maybe... you could teach me what you learn? You... seem to have adapted quite well when it comes to living a... normal life
Vee: Well... Not sure how much I can contribute to the camp, or my friends, or my own nature but... Yeah, I can help you with that, adapting to a completely different kind of life can be... overwhelming, so any questions you may have about social cues and that stuff, just call me, okay?
Hunter: ...Okay, fellow lab weirdo?
Vee: He, fellow lab weird.
#vee noceda#hunter the golden guard#vee the basilisk#hunter the grimwalker#toh comic#toh fanfic idea?#Literally the only thing I wanted from season 3 was a single scene of these two talking#Vee and Hunter have so much potential
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a bit late for mermay but. obligatory mermaid au
#stupidly posting this at nearly 5am but. GAHH#ALSO hunter is more mammalian-looking cuz more human cuz grimwalker#grimswimmer.......#the owl house#toh art#toh#hunter toh#toh hunter#lumity#fanart#my art#hunter#willow#luz#amity#gus#eda#king#luz noceda#hunter noceda#hunter deamonne#flapjack#willow park#gus porter#eda clawthorne#king clawthorne#amity blight#mermaid#mermaid au#mermaids
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#w h a t#toh#the owl house#emperor belos#hunter#textpost memes#he's probably ranking grimwalkers based on how hard they seem to kill#congrats to hunter for being at the top of that list!#what an honor
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The book called 'Grimwalkers Extinction' raises a lot of questions cuz it implies that Grimwalkers are somehow a natural occurrence, like some kind of creature or species that once existed in substantial numbers. (?) which at first glance doesn't make any sense when compared to what little we know about their background. Unless...
Grimwalker were indeed a species somehow naturally connected to some kind or aspect of necromancy, like maybe if someone dies in a specific place their body is then consumed by the surrounding nature to create a sort of dryad/zombie/ghoul/ent devoted to protect and nurture that respective area like a local cryptic???
So, maybe, back in the day people could add in their final will "Oh yeah can you put my grave in that one place?" so their corpses could become the equivalent of "guardian angels" in the form of... zombies, which does fit the Boiling Isles overall vibe.
But that raises the next question, how did that turn into clones? Well, maybe Belos saw that whole process and the lore behind it and decided to bastardize it to its absolute limits (saw its principles, and replicated it to specifically meet his needs by selecting and perfecting the formula until getting a perfect clone of his brother) while erasing every recollection of the existence of Grimwalkers by likely burning down that sacred place where they were once born from the ground.
u know another very funny thing about The Owl House is that they never actually explain in full what a Grimwalker is. like when the reveal drops Luz is like 'what's a Grimwalker' and Belos is like 'mind your fucking business' and then they never really come back to it.
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Grim Group Photo time! 📷 (Artfight Mass Attack)
OCs belong to (top to bottom, left to right): @gadjetomyart, @tytonidaedraco, @mysticflowers, @yukikinda, @art1emis, @jeebweezers , @princerevelucide , @/toastcircumfrench, @muzarry , @twillean-sparks , @finnoky , @chaoticnebu , @hellhunde , @skeptical-rainbows , @thornethenorn , @hyenasatanist , @kess-i-guess , @/milo_katz, @nerobuffoonery , @/tytosalba, and @coxinhadoce47-art !!!
#the owl house#grimwalker#toh oc#hunter#wittebane#artfight#digital art#other people's ocs#this took me 3 weeks to finish I need to lie down now please
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#the owl house#hunter noceda#hunter deamonne#toh hunter#toh golden guard#toh grimwalker#caleb wittebane#toh caleb#toh textposts#toh meme#hunter my beloved
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"That must have hurt, right Caleb?"
Caleb tries his best to prevent the Grimwalkers from hurting Hunter. They don't intend to harm him, but their actions could end up going pretty wrong in the end. But ending Belos is worth it, right?
By the way, today is my birthday. Happy birthday to me! Here’s my self-gift haha!
#the owl house#toh#toh esquizo au#toh hunter#hunter toh#the owl house hunter#caleb wittebane#hunter wittebane#grimwalkers#grimwalker#art#drawing#digital art#the owl house au
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Is a crime Hunter never got the chance to drop-kick that b#tch at least a dozen times for everything she did.
Hey anyone ever thought about th. Kikimora is the definition of women’s wrongs (derogatory)
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3 days, getting closer... *cries*
#hunter#tohhunter#hunterfanart#huntertoh#hunter noceda#augustus porter#toh augustus#gus porter#gus#camila noceda#camila toh#toh camila#toh gus#hunter toh#toh fanart#toh#cosmic frontier#hunter is a noceda#toh grimwalker
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This Fic is the source of way too many headaches I'm willing to admit.
Originally, it wasn't even meant to be a multichapter story, just an in-the-moment one-shot I wrote in a week and had no intentions of continuing. A few ideas around but nothing croncret. Until a little exchange with a random guy in Discord convinced me to give it a try, even if as a short fic.
My first task was to write the end, no joke, which is a 3-page-long-badly-written scene that surprisingly helped me get a sense of what this story should be about and how to get there.
When I started my priority was to focus on developing a consistent style, a mixture between first-person and Third-person, which slowly became clear was going to be much harder than anticipated, and pairing that with my perfectionism and overall lack of time to write at the time, had a quite difficult time writing each chapter. Can't say I'm proud of the results up to this point while also not that disappointed. I could have done better.
And another issue was the formatting, I wasn't planning in dedicating this much time to each chapter, maybe around 3k each one, but I got carried away and now each is minimum 6 to 8k, which is too much for my liking.
Without mentioning my original intention to separate each Arc into different Fics (some multi-chapters others one-shots) to be part of a Series, but upon comparing myself with other similar fics got insecure and indecisive and now I'm not sure if I should go for that route or not.
Is stupid I know but I can't stop overthinking this.
Anyway, the next chapter for this is... Technically finished, it just needs a lot of polish. So please a little bit more patience would be appreciated. Thank you and sorry for the trouble. If you have anything to ask feel free to do so.
#my writing#toh fanfic#vee noceda#hunter noceda#luz noceda#writing vent#toh hexsquad#vee the basilisk#hunter the grimwalker
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whoopee doo! More Grimwalker blorbos <333
These two are Valor and Cell! (Valor is the o. ne to the top left and Cell is the one to the bottom right)
Valor is supposed to be that one guard from hollow mind. The idea of cell was given to me by my cousin @uncannyx23 , mostly because he loves that cyberpunk stuff or whatever it called lol.
Valor is an engineer and smartie pants who basically created Cell, who is used as Belos's personal weapon. They are a package deal, do not separate' them.
There's more to their story but I'll prob save the rambling for later anyon e's actually interested lol
. (Also Happy anniversary toh! Wish i had art made but i aint got nothing at the moment :,) Taking things a little slower than i'd like but school is coming to an end and shits getting real)
#the owl house#toh#caleb wittebane#philip wittebane#emperor belos#hunter toh#golden guard#previous golden guard#grimwalker#grimwalker oc
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some grimwalker headcanons
#the owl house#hunter toh#hunter#toh art#hunter noceda#hunter deamonne#grimwalker#grimwalkers#headcanons#my art#fanart#toh hunter#flapjack#waffles#toh#they're all written out on my blog btw i just illustrated them now#grimwalker lore my BELOVED
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🦌💀
#I h-a-t-e how the first one can already be considered foreshadowing for the third..#philip wittebane#caleb wittebane#toh hunter#possessed hunter#the owl house#hunter noceda#hunter deamonne#wittebane brothers#grimwalkers
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Part of some commission work for my friend Andrew of his oc for their toh au fic! He sucks but he’s a lot of fun to draw…
Cain is the previous Grimwalker who ran away from the EC n sort of faked his demise and is working on a coup, but he’s not. The greatest person.
#my art#the owl house#au#hunter noceda clawthorne wittebane deamonne whispers#Cain wittebane#grimwalker oc#toh#oswat fic
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son boys
happy halloween 👻🦇🎃
#my art#star vs the forces of evil#svstfoe#svtfoe#the owl house#toh#tom the demon#tom lucitor#toh hunter#hunter#hunter toh#hunter wittebane#hunter noceda#hunter deamonne#the golden guard#grimwalker#golden guard#halloween#happy halloweeeeeeen#all hallows eve#deathly hallows
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