#toh spinoff

[gakriele-lvs-blog]

The Owl House overlooked/loose Plot treads (Updated)

There are a LOT of unresolved, unaddressed, and forgotten mysteries, characters, and plots that had to be cut short because of the shortening so... I decided to search and list as many of these as possible! Because there is just so much we missed and this is my way to cope.

Plot threads:

What was Darius's mentor's name? and why/how was he "eliminated"? (was he who inspired/influenced Darius to form his own rebellion?)

How did Darius even uncover the Draining spell? did he sneak inside Belos's office and snatch the paper? did he overhear Belos talking with the Collector? did the previous Golden Guard leave him some hints as to what Belos' plan was all about?

How did the CATTs (Amber, Derwin, and Skara) escape the Conformatorium after Eda's requiem? Did Raine break them out? was it Darius? Steve? [Possible Answer: it seems that the cell they were throw-in was actually open]

How did Bump manage to implement multitracking in Hexide? Assuming that at one point, the Emperor's coven sent an actual inspector to the school, how did the detention kids and Bump deal with that?

What about the other magic schools? we never got to see Glandus High or St. Epiderm.

What happened with the Greater Basilisk? It was implied that the emperor's coven took her so... is she dead?

How did belos revive the basilisks? was the Collector involved in that or did he figure out that one on his own? what method did he use? If the collector give him the draining spell, then what was even the point of resurrecting them in the first place?

What exactly is the relationship between Hunter and Darius like? mentor? father figure? friend? After giving Hunter a scroll and promising him to keep Flapjack secret we really never got a proper look at their relationship after all of that. After all of those years of giving Hunter the cold shoulder, Darius must have dedicated a lot of time to gain Hunter's trust.

Grimwalkers, how did Belos discover their existence? The only explanation that comes to mind is that he found the "recipe" in some forgotten temple or that The Collector help him develop it throught trial and error. Althrought the books Hunter found imply that the Demon Realm knows to a certain extent of their existence.

What was that little box containing the puzzle and map to the Titan's Blood? and who put it there and why? Because I genuinely find it disjointed from everything, like, not even a hint was placed about who made it and for who.

What happened to the other basilisk that escaped with Vee, and what was their relationship like? We know they are fine at the end but where did they go? Were they just hiding, or were they searching for Vee? Were they like siblings to her? if not then why bother to stick together? maybe they did care for her...

During Vee's flashback of her time in captivity, we saw 5 cages... We know who inhabited cages 5, 4, and 3. Assuming that the greater basilisk was part of this row of cages, we are missing one basilisk. Who are they and where did they go? What did Belos do to them?

What was the aftermath of Eda's first transformation into the Owl Beast like? what did Lilith do after Eda ran away? What was Gween and Deell's first reaction to the whole situation?

Who was the owner of the Bat Queen? After what was said in the last PostHoot, and the possible connection between her and the tower of the Owl House, well, now I really want to know who.

How many Titans/islands exit in the Demon Realm? We know that other landmasses exist beyond the Demon realm, but we only know of two civilizations, The boiling Isles and the Titan Trappers Island. Are there the only ones? are there more somewhere out there?

Luz and Vee's relationship. There are obviously some unresolved issues between them which we never got to see being resolved. How did Luz feel about Vee being a better daughter to Camila? about Vee making friends in only a few months while she never got one throught her whole life in the human realm? How did she feel about getting a new demon sibling after seemingly losing one just a few days/weeks ago?

Philip and Caleb's relationship. We can only assume and interpret things based on what we saw in Belos's mindscape and what Masha told the Hexsquad.

Evelyn and Caleb's relationship. During the last PostHoot Dana described their relationship as something that developed slowly, but apart from that, we have nothing

Philip's arrival to the Demon realm. We don't have any specifics about when and how Philip ended up in the demon realm, did he follow Caleb exactly when he crossed with Evelyn? did it take him years to muster the courage to cross the portal or find him or it took him years just to find him when already in the demon realm?

What's up with the other coven heads? Hettie Cutborn? maybe she is a buff vampire. Vitmir? no idea what his deal is but he is definitely evil. Osran? also evil, but in a more cynical way. Mason? He gives me family man vibes.

How did Masha and the other Cabin 7 kids feel about the real Luz? it wasn't even addressed how Vee feels about the whole situation, heck she seemingly replaced them with Luz's friends! there is just a lot to unpack there...

What exactly is Raine's relationship with their... apprentices? (Amber, Katay, and Derwin) how did they all meet each other and how did they end up forming the rebellion?

Amity's palisman, how and when did she get them? Was the Bat Queen involved? Was Ghost Odalia's palisman?

Darius and Eberwolf… They seem so close, yet so personality-wise so different from one another. Maybe one day we will see how deep their dynamic goes.

Steve and Matt, we know they are half brothers, but what is their relationship really like? Wouldn't be a surprise if Matt resents him for "abandoning" him for the Emperor's coven.

Flora D'splora's original role and relevance to the story. The crew released a painting that was meant to be part of Hollow mind's background that depicts an unsettling scene of Belos alongside Flora... What was supposed to mean? Was Florea meant to be an antagonist? Or was it all just because of driving Lilith to find the time pools?

Vee and Hunter are literally siblings: kids artificially created by Belos to accomplish a single purpose, had to lie about their identity to make friends, both belong to an extinct species, their names are literally just titles the dynamic between them was literally the thing I wanted to most from Season 3... cries

Viney, Barcus, and Jerbo. I genuinely wanted to see what their newfound freedom to study any type of magic led them to. Possibly nothing important but considerating how multitracking became a thing at one point during the second season...

Hunter, buddy, how did you not recognize Kikimora's voice in For the Future? you worked alongside her your whole life! Don't take this one seriusly

How did Camila and Vee's relationship develop after the lie was no more? we know that at the end Vee is practically a Noceda, but how did they both handle the aftermath of Yesterday's lie? Did Camila at one point resent Vee for what she did, aware that if it wasn't for Luz's arrival, the lie would have continued indefinitely? Did Vee apologize and/or told Camila why she did it? Again, there is a lot to unpack there.

Personally, considerating all of these, I believe that if the Owl House ever gets a spin-off, it needs to be about what we missed because of the shortening. Like, don't get me wrong, A Young Eda and/or Evelyn sounds nice but I don't think that a whole series dedicated to them is necessary. Why not a little bit of everything? 1 episode for each one of these, maybe 2 if it seems necessary. We can finally get some closure for some of the characters that suffered from the shortening (Vee, Darius, Raine, Bosha, the Catss, etc) and get some well-needed answers for much of everything.

If I miss something, make me know and I will add them!

[underwaterlavender]

Ok ok so

My hc is that after watching and dreaming The Collector goes to confront The Archives, and like tries to save the people they collected. And I want a show of that. I NEED to see more of that lore, their people. I HAVE TO KNOW MORE. I want to see more of The Collector and King!!

Like them figuring out more about the titans powers and what King can do.

What other magic is out there.

Them trying to get through to The Collector's siblings.

Send help I'm dying to know more and see!!!!

[forflightlessbirds]

hi tumblr come get your toh spinoff show pspspspsps

it's been in the making for YEARS and i've worked on it alongside a bunch of super talented people!!

[veeferns]

A Movie, a prequel, and two spin-offs

[sunnyirry]

revisiting my witch king design!!!

[theprinceandthewitch]

What is annoying about the updated Hollow Mind portraits is that they legit think this amends the fact they didnt bring Caleb and Evelyn up in the show… like dude, I shouldnt have to read sources OUTSIDE OF THE SHOW to get story clues. And they STILL dont show us what Evelyn looks like? Even though they added new portraits? Um… okay…

[maxcatz]

they make me feral

[gakriele-lvs-blog]

This! This is exactly what I want!

Young Eda spinoff this. Philip and Caleb spinoff that. Adult Hexsquad spinoff would be fire. But hear me out.

Gimme a spinoff called Lost Hoots. A show that goes through all the theoretical adventures we could have gotten if the show hadn't been shortened. No serialized plot needed, just show us what these intended episodes would have been like so we could explore x character or x location and how they would have fit into the Owl House world. Examples include:

Hettie Cutburn episode

Vitimir episode

Osran episode

Mason episode

Steve and Matt episode

Beach day episode

Bat Queen origin episode

Hooty origin episode

Dell episode

Clawthorne family healing episode

Emira episode

Vee and Camila episode

Human realm shenanigans episode

Multi-trackers episode

Demon realm food episode

Glandus episode

St. Epiderm episode

Dadrius and Sonter episode

Wittebane bros and Evelyn backstory episode

RAEDA WEDDING episode

The possibilities I tell you.

Don't come @ me saying it's too late, the show's already over; I know that. Let a guy dream about what could have been and what can still be someday.

[dazeddoodles]

Bat Queen is one of the side characters I most wish we got more time with. There’s two interesting bits about her story I’d love to get more detail on.

Firstly, the tree she was carved from must’ve been like redwood-scale, eclipsing any Palistrom tree we see on the Isles. This presents the idea that she could be from a different Titan, as they all presumably create an equivalent to Palistrom trees.

There’s also the obvious question of who her creator/companion was. We don’t see any witch of that sort of scale, though she’s also too small to have been from a full-grown Titan.

I remember Dana saying they had intended a backstory for the Bat Queen that ended up getting cut

[numericalbridge]

It would have been cool, i think, if Darius and his mentor had met while the Emperor's Coven was investigating the Owl Beast after Eda's first transformation. Like, Raine asks Darius to cause a distraction and he impresses the Golden Guard so much. Maybe the Guard even realizes he is going against a child (Eda) and calls off the search.

Doesn't really make sense if you imagine it as an episode of a series since it would need to be focused on Eda and most likely Lilith and probably Raine, so it would be a weirdly distracting b-plot, but... umm... AU?

[justaghostinthesea]

DANA YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT TO ME

[gakriele-lvs-blog]

Based on Vee's Hexsquad membership application

Vee, holding the certificate: what is this supposed to be?

Luz: Vee Noceda, you are now an honorary member of the Hexsquad! The bane of Belos's as-

Camila, from the other side of the house: Don't you dare finish that mija!

Luz: A- butt. Anyway, congratulations, we welcome you as part of our friend group.

Vee: Is not like I don't appreciate it... But, aren't you suppose to attend Hexide for this?

Amity: The "Hex" is just part of the name, nothing to do with Hexide. It just happens all of its members met for the first time there.

Vee: Huh... So, now what?

Willow: Well... Honestly, I don't know. Exclusive access to...?

Hunter, reading one of Luz's notes about character development: Now you are a main character who will go through multiple traumatic experiences that will test your resolve, willpower, and courage. Each one means to develop different traits of your identity. Eventually, at the end of your character arc, you will arise as the new YOU. Someone who has faced their worsts fears and become the greatest possible version of themselves...

Vee, borderline hyperventilating: C-can I just be a background character without any impact on the plot?

Luz: Aw! But you still need a lot of development to be my sister! Just imagine all the shenanigans that you, me, and Hunter could through! Don't you want to face Belos and give him a taste of his own medicine?

Vee: Meh! I'm sure there will be a lot of background details hitting at that. We don't need to even interact for that. Just... I don't know. I'm not sure how I will handle all the extra screen time, and you are all main characters and need all the time you need for your own Arcs. Besides, I'm not supposed to be just a plot device to explain your disappearance? you know., someone who becomes irrelevant once their purpose is fulfilled?

Luz: Don't you dare call yourself a plot device! You are so much more than that! Just imagine you bonding with Mom, or connecting with your friends from camp, those were your first friends ever, right? They could be parallel versions of Amity, Willow, and Gus, each one with their own personalities, complex qualities, and character arcs! what about all of the similarities between you and Hunter, don't you want to bond with your technicality brother?! Girl, you are PACKED with potential! You will need a whole spinoff to fit all of that!

Amity, whispering to Gus: what the hell are they talking about?

Gus: I read about this! Is called breaking the 4th wall...

[pandoratheprocrasticreator]

"okay but what ACTUALLY happened in that minor characters backstory" "what did that character SPECIFICALLY do to become like this" "how does the plot device ACTUALLY work" oh my god i don't care! i don't care about your cinemasinsing about every little detail! does knowing this technical detail improve the audience's emotional understanding of the story? no? then i don't want to fucking see it in canon!

anything you come up with in fanworks is going to be more fun for you than what the author can do in canon! any attempts by the author to explain something technical in the story takes away time and investment from the main plot! so if the technical explanation doesn't inform the main plot then it's just useless trivia for completionism's sake! this shit should be written about in fanworks! or spinoffs! or idk the writers can tweet about it or smth! i don't need it in the actual main story!

[ask-beta-lumity]

[mixit-exists]

Golden Guard post cause I'm bored

Owie the hell were you doing with that staff that pissed Belos off?

Imagine being petrified CRINGE nice clothes tho but why are you standing like that did you really think you needed a dramatic pose while you died cause same honestly

Don't look at me like that. Stop it. Stoppppp

[phlox238]

OH MYGOD. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO EVEN DO NOW