#human unsha

[shakingparadigm]

boy do you see that pathetic little shit over there boy that's the son of the enemy boy I need you to go over there and beat the shit out of him boy

[nottoonedin]

Okay it might be just me but does Unsha kind of sound like a disappointed father figure in the interview? Like he sounds almost fond of Ivan?

Like?? He doesn't even pick out Ivan because of his talent, he focused on how different and extraordinary his eyes looked? Could just be because he wanted to impress his wife but you'd want an entertaining pet no? (Also side note Ivan being a Valentine's Day present..)

He was only disappointed? If it were Urak or Herperu who had their pets give up on stage I'd say they'd be pissed. Reminds me of the phrase commonly used by parental figures: "I'm not mad. Just disappointed." Calling Ivan an "ambitious kid" comes off almost endearing?

Something something parents learning from their children. A mentor learning from their student. Or something.

Do you guys think. He's moving on from human pets because. Because he knows there will never be another one like Ivan. Like Ivan is special (to him) in a way?

Then again, you can also take the interview as Unsha talking about Ivan like a business partner. Because that's how they viewed their relationship. But it'd be kind of unheard of having a pet human as an (almost) equal?

(Let me be delusional okay Ivan Unsha father-son relationship PLEASE-)

Edit: Should probably add that I'm not saying Unsha is a GOOD father figure. He reminds me more of a neglectful father. Probably not as abusive as Urak and Heperu, but he definitely pushed Ivan and had high expectations for him (I don't think Ivan would willingly have that daily schedule if it weren't for Unsha's gain).

[crustyfloor]

If I described Ivan's situation with his 'family' to a stranger, leaving out the fact that he's human I bet they would think he was the family dog or something 😭

[atrophiedemotion]

The interviews got me curios about Unsha's wife now. I wonder if she was fond of Ivan and if she was sad when he died. She probably was since he was speficially given to her but I wonder if she cared about him as his own being and not just because he was hers. Maybe when his adoption day comes around we can get a comic about Ivan being given to Unsha's wife?

ahh hello, thank you for the ask!! im sorry this took so long but rest assured i have been Thinking about this (i wrote little notes for my response while at work pondering over it lmao)

i think a gifting comic would be very interesting! the way unsha talks about picking ivan out as a gift definitely feels like unsha was thinking more about what their wife would like than anything else. it feels like, from that, that she probably was fond of ivan- but probably more like. a very pretty fish you have in your fish tank, if that makes sense. someone else pointed out that it's likely she was the alien with the flowers in the background of the frame in black sorrow where child ivan has a singing trophy, and i really like that theory. if it is her, it'd show that she does admire him and his abilities.

some of the segyein seem to see humans in a very similar way to the pets we as people have but with even less understanding of them. i think it'd make sense for unsha's wife to 'adore' ivan in the way someone would somewhat shallowly love a pampered poodle? id love to believe she cared about him as his own being but i honestly just don't think most aliens have that capacity simply because of how different they are biologically. (not to mention the fact that ivan was certainly never himself around any of the aliens. hard to deeply care about a fabrication, even if you're not aware of it- but that's another topic regarding ivan's relationship with unsha that ive been thinking about)

[pwippy]

after round 6 i imagine unsha had his own little "do you ever look at someone and wonder what is going on inside their head?" moment

[alien-til-i-stage]

HIS EYES??? ARE YOU FUCKINF KIDDING ME??? LIKE THE EYES??? HIS BLACK AND DARK EYES WITH THE RED IN THEM??? THE EYES THAT PRACTICALLY HELD THE ALNST FNADOM IN A CHOKEHOLD??? even unsha was capitvatwd by them

unsha: yes good humans, quality humans, i wonder which on- that one

person selling: uh any reason?

unsha: his eyes….

[whizzinpast]

Alien Swap (ALNST Role Swap AU)

Sua (swapped with Mizi)

Nigeh has a very specific taste in pet-humans and is known to raise them with proper manners and dress them in most exquisite outfits. Tired of the doting, Sua decided to break out and participate in a singing competition. Nigeh was happy to provide her with all the resources she needed to sing on Alien Stage and loves to brag about their ‘daughter’s’ accomplishments.

Sua meets Mizi in the same way as canon. Unlike canon though, Sua is more open with the children in Anakt Garden. Many admired her and saw her as an older sister, but she paid particular attention to very few. She was very picky about her company (which mostly consisted of Mizi tbh, and Till when he’s not being a territorial jerk)

Loves singing from the bottom of her heart and has a magnetic stage presence.

At first, her dream was to sing in Alien Stage under the stars because it was a great honor (even if she knew what death was really like). Then it was to sing with Mizi under the stars.

She firmly believed that Mizi would win— she never expected her to lose on purpose.

After Mizi’s death, Sua became a living doll. She couldn’t bother expressing herself. It was only until Round 5, when Hyuna mimics Mizi’s singing style, that she snaps. She uses stage props to knock Hyuna over and beat her with her microphone.

She is saved from execution by Luka, and during his version of ‘All-in’ she gets a side cut.

Mizi (swapped with Sua)

Guardian Shine is a segyein too old to bother with bonds. They’ve been very emotionally distant to Mizi, who they adopted because they felt sorry for her. They had, quite literally, left her in the dark for so long Mizi’s eyesight suffered. In spite of Mizi’s constant attempts to reach out and impress her Guardian, with one of those attempts being her application for Alien Stage, she was ultimately sent off to die.

Despite her cheerfulness, Mizi’s self-confidence was very low. She believed she was worth nothing up until she met Sua, and decided to get stronger for her sake. She made her laugh and helped her with physically demanding tasks.

Although she seemed happier with Sua, Mizi easily got skittish around others. Most kids thought she was weird, albeit cute to some extent.

Mizi decided to lose to Sua on purpose. Till found out and harshly criticized her for it. He claimed she should at least give it her all, to which Mizi responded by punching someone for the first time in her life— and frantically apologized for it.

Mizi didn’t know how brutal death could be until she got shot.

Ivan (swapped with Till)

Ivan had always loved the stars. Even when he was violently abused by Guardian Unsha’s lackeys, he loved the stars.

In spite of his circumstances (dragged out of the slums by the galactic mafia, tortured and then forced to entertain terrible segyein) Ivan used his intellect and appearance to his advantage. He became self-sufficient very quickly and crafted a persona to appeal to his segyein overlord.

Due to his experiences, Ivan appeared very cold and stoic as a kid. He dismissed anybody that approached him because he didn’t how to react. It was easier to scare people away than risk backlash. But, otherwise, he could be a polite and chatty kid if you know what topics to approach him with.

One of his most prized possessions is a lighter that he stole from Unsha. He keeps flicking it when he’s nervous.

Sua was his idol, his inspiration, and his rare comfort was listening to her sing. He thought she was the human equivalent of a star. Unfortunately, he never got to properly talk to her because she always misunderstood what he said.

Both him and Mizi were too awkward to talk to each other.

At some point, Ivan tried to escape on his own, but was quickly found by Till, who bullied his way into joining him. They almost escaped until Ivan realized they wouldn’t survive out in the wilderness on their own.

Till remained in his periphery because Ivan automatically blanked out when he was mistreated. The only way for Till to get his attention was to pinch him or punch him. Ivan was too resistant to verbal provokations.

Ivan stole enough materials off of rich segyein to design and sew his own outfit for Round 2. He won because his stage presence was so intense it terrified his opponent into silence halfway through the song.

Till (swapped with Ivan)

Urak bought a problematic pet-human on discount and struck a deal with him: in return for success, the child will get whatever he wants. They started with food. Then sweets. Then heavy equipment. Then guitars. Till continued to provide Urak with his musical prowess and earned everything he could dream of.

Spoiled rotten thanks to his wild success as a musical protege, Till became a force to be reckoned with at Anakt Garden. He was openly arrogant and didn’t bother with kids or tasks that he deemed unnecessary. Though, somehow, he still managed to attract admirers who thought his confidence and talent was impressive.

Out of all the kids, Ivan had the misfortune (or fortune, in Till’s eyes) to be graced with his attention. This is because Till thought of Ivan as his rival, which is, honestly, just a synonym for him getting a massive crush on him. He is stupidly into him. He thinks his ‘raw intellect’ makes him a diamond in the rough. But because he doesn’t know how to get Ivan to look at him in any other way, he gets his attention by treating him like a punching bag. (Worse than Canon!Ivan, who verbally provokes Till into fights.)

He was intensely jealous of Sua because she got so much of Ivan’s focus. However, it didn’t stop him from respecting her. She was one of the rare people that had enough talent and skill to get him. The same could not be said for Mizi.

As a celebrity, he has asshole charisma and he knows it.

In Round 6, Till does something similar to what Sua did in Round 5: he uses the microphone as a weapon and hits Ivan in the legs until he drops to the ground. He simultaneously punched Ivan three times and kissed him until he was shot and bled out.

Hyuna (swapped with Luka)

Phan, Hyuna’s Guardian, was abusive for no specific reason. They cut off her leg when she was a kid simply because they were curious. But seeing that she wouldn’t be of use to them with one leg, they provided her with a prosthetic.

Imagine a movie star persona — big smiles, big personality, black, bedazzled suits and cool shades. That’s Hyuna, except she’s dressed to impress. Looks very cool and effortless, but shows off a more cold and ruthless side to her during matches.

Hyuna had an unhealthy fixation with Luka and considered herself his ‘protector’ or ‘knight.’ Her and Hyunwoo had a more…dicey sibling relationship. They fought a lot (more like Hyuna was picking fights under the guise of being ‘the good guy’) and eventually she would beat Hyunwoo to death so there would be no one between them. Think like…the black knight in shining armor.

Luka (swapped with Hyuna)

If there is a tale of a princess escaping her tower, it would pretty much sum up Luka’s life. As a kid, Luka was extremely shy and rarely played with other kids due to his health issues (his slightly aloof attitude didn’t help either though). This changed when Hyuna and Hyunwoo invite him to play, and he became attached to Hyuna, who always protected him from bullies (and Hyunwoo, allegedly).

Despite his know-it-all attitude, Luka was genuinely ambitious and eagerly awaited auditions for Alien Stage. He was very confident in his talent and, despite the abuse at the hands of his Guardian and his declining health, strongly believed that he would win.

It all came crashing down when Hyuna reveals her true colors. She was a warden more than a guardian— keeping Luka isolated by intimidating anyone who comes near, with Hyunwoo being a slight exception. However, she kills Hyunwoo the following day with her bare hands while Luka was experiencing cardiac arrest. (Her excuse was that Hyunwoo caused it by messing with Luka.)

Luka escapes his enclosure and survives with a group of human rebels.

As a leader of the human resistance, Luka is a tactical mastermind that moves troops around like chess pieces. However, he can only do it from the safety of his home base. The few times he goes out, he’s heavily guarded by Isaac and Dewey.

A/N: The brainrot is hard at work. This is just me laying the groundwork. May or may not doodle designs if I have the time.

[ivanttakethis]

WHAT R UR FAV ALNST THEORIES/ ANALYSES!?!?!!

GREAT QUESTION ANON!!!

These my favorite theories in no particular order, with some of my own personal theories mixed in.

Most of these are about Ivan, but he’s my favorite character so yeah lol.

Long post under the cut. Let’s go!!

1. IVAN IS ALIVE (yes, the capitalization is necessary)

I believe this one for a few reasons:

- We haven’t seen any official art about Ivan’s death (which is inch resting imo)

- At one point, there was a post/comment/rumor that Vivinos/QMENG (not sure which) said no one else was going to die after Sua (of course now I can’t find where I initially saw this, so take it with a grain of salt). This could’ve been said to mislead us or maybe they changed their minds later on, but I’m still holding onto this — assuming the statement was made/is true.

- Ivan didn’t get shot in the head. If they wanted to kill him to stop him from “hurting” Till, why waste bullets on shooting him several times in non-lethal places when they could’ve just sniped him one time in the head or neck and been done with it?

- Ivan’s owner Unsha is an alien underworld mobster who has a rivalry with Till’s owner Urak. I don’t think Unsha would take Till (and by extension Urak) “winning” Round 6 in the way he did lightly enough to let Ivan rest without a rematch. But maybe he’s not as petty as I would be idk.

- I’m delusional 🙂

2. Luka isn’t branded.

- This is one of my theories. I think Luka doesn’t have his name branded anywhere on him because he was grown in a lab.

- If the aliens are capable of growing humans, they probably also have the ability to “edit” or design them however they wish. They could’ve made Luka into the perfect Alien Stage contestant: beautiful, musically talented, charming, eternally youthful, but also cunning and cutthroat.

- I think they made him obedient on a fundamental level, more obedient than Ivan or Sua. It’s part of his DNA.

- He’s incapable of rebelling, so there’s no need to brand him. There’s no need for a reminder of who’s in charge because Luka wouldn’t step out of line in the first place.

3. Sua was turned into an android.

- Based on this official art that continues to haunt me.

- Also this post about Vivinos saying Sua will appear again “no matter what form she takes” makes me go hmm 🤔

- If Mizi and Hyuna get captured, I could see android Sua being brought in to break down Mizi as some sort of psychological torture method. (Wow, that got dark. Anyways…)

4. Ivan will appear in the 10th video in the series.

- I talked about my reasoning behind this theory here, but to summarize: the three numbers in this pic with Ivan could represent Round 3 and Round 6, which he appeared in both, and the 10 could represent him appearing in the 10th video in the series. This also ties into theory #1 on this list (IVAN IS ALIVE)

- This is one of my favorite theories because it gives me big “cork board and red string” conspiracy vibes lol

5. Ivan has a connection to the wagyeins.

- Based on the official art we have of Ivan being close with a wagyein as a child. I did a mini-analysis about their relationship in this post.

- Ivan also has some of similarities to the wagyein that we don’t see in any other humans (red pupils, sharp tooth, etc.)

6. Ivan was experimented on.

- Another one of my personal theories is that Ivan was experimented on, though not to the extent that Till was.

- This might explain why he was able to tank like three bullets without flinching much in Round 6.

- And also why his blood might be a different color, as mentioned in this post.

Finally, and perhaps most devastatingly:

7. Till did look at Ivan, he just didn’t notice.

- I think Ivan is an unreliable narrator who is deeply self-deprecating and always sees the worst in himself. And because both Round 3 and Round 6 focused heavily on Ivan’s perspective, we as the audience end up seeing the world how he saw it, rather than how it actually was.

- Ivan thinks that Till never noticed him, but I think he did. Just— not when Ivan was looking. There’s some art/screenshots to back this up too (his eyes being closed in some of these 😭).

Those are all my favorite theories as of now, but I’m sure there’ll be more in the future.

Thank you for the ask anon!

[chirpycloudyrobin]

tw body horror / description if desecration of (fictional) corpses but

i wonder if it's a thing w the aliens to taxidermy their fave pets or some shit

like walk w me here

shine likely loved mizi as much as an alien could and was probably sad that her own pet was sad at sua's death so imagine she bought sua's body from nigeh (who prollie doesnt give that much of a shit) to turn sua into a doll for mizi so at least mizi would have her sua with her, right ?

and then on unsha's side... taxidermying ivan's body as a keepsake. maybe as a doll to put on display for his wife. or maybe as a trophy for his first venture into the human pet business like how some people keep models of their first successful work kind of thing.

are u getting my vision ? 🧍

[redrandomposts]

IM SCREAMING NOT UNSHA'S WIFE DIY-ING HER OWN KPOP IDOL 😭 she's so valid for that tho i admit

unsha's wife : my little pet deserves to sing more bc hes more talented than any other pet out there but i dont want him to be killed in a singing death match bc thats just bad for business

unsha's wife : time to set up a new entertainment agency

unsha's wife accidentally causing the final downfall of alien stage the show bc aliens start to realise that it's better for business and overall entertainment to have their fave human pet idols not get killed onstage and instead are able to release new songs every few months 🧍 they learn the appeal of fanservice and fanmeets !! maybe anakt garden starts the trend of human pet idol groups by making the first survival show. 5050 on whether they kill the losers of the show however 🤷

(our levels of copium is incredible 😭)

till discovering ivan's still alive and speedruns the 5 stages of grief AGAIN. he blacks out and suddenly he has a concerning amount of illegally-acquired navi merch ? what is he DOING ?! he needs to get his shit together and find a way to get ivan out of there bc that's the least he could do ???

hyuna watching tillivan pine for each other from afar and questioning how her life has gotten to this point

— 🌦️

unsha behind his wife: so, like, how much money are we making here?

unsha's wife: what money?

*ivan raking in billions.*

unsha: ...okay, honey.

always listen to the wife, folks!

till, the #1 contributor to illegal ivan merch in the hideout. mizi is close at #2, but that's only because she's always accompanying till on his little... fibbits. I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS CALLED. till brings back so much that they have no choice to sell it... which increases their funds by, like, 270%. ivan the money totem?

for publicity, ivan wears multiple outfits and there's a poll each week to which one they make merch of... till manipulates the votes by getting hyuna to hack into the system and raise his favorite outfit's votes.

heperu sends luka to unsha's wife's company when he sees the success. ivan first meets luka on livestream, where it's like, surprise! here's your enemy from years ago! and they vibe together.

ivan will often give luka more food and then is like, "so where's the best place to disrupt the making of robots?"

guys im fixing luka too he needs to eat more (for the baby too).

the rebellion wanted to save ivan... and then luka showed up and hyuna and mizi is much more reluctant, like, ew it's the blonde twink why is he there?

sorry till your wife is being shipped with another man. what can you do.

[geospiral]

I like the idea that Ivan originally had a different name before he got captured and put into the system to be adopted, or before Unsha chose ‘Ivan’ to be his name. 

He isn’t able to remember what it was, however (actually, he doesn’t remember a lot of what happened when he was on the street; his memories of that time looking as if they were trapped behind thick, frosted glass). But he’s certain that someone did give him a name at some point, specifically another human. A parent he can’t imagine? Or maybe just an older person who stayed with him until he could fend for himself, someone who he doesn’t recall? It wouldn’t have been hard for him to have lost his original name, given that there wouldn’t be any other human with whom he would have stayed long enough with for it to be of use, always opting to just call him “boy” or "child.”

Ivan is used to feeling as if his humanity is only ever able to be drawn out by other people, as though he isn’t able to do it himself, and as though the fact that he is of the human race isn’t enough of a qualifier. So he can’t help but feel guilty; why didn’t he try holding onto that facet of himself even if it was something that no one would ever call him? A name that may have been given to him out of genuine compassion—how could he have just thrown it away?

Ivan can be a sentimental person, so I think the idea that he lost a piece of himself when he already feels so fractured as a human would have him in a silent upset, at least for a little bit.

[iri-desky]

Quick Angsty Alien Stage Concept Because Round 7 Drove Me Even More Insane

You know, I've seen a theory out there that some characters may be revived because of alien technology.

However, this likely would only happen to the aliens' "favorites". After all, why bother reviving a human and go through the effort of bringing them back from death itself, when "no one"-- at least, no alien-- truly cared about that human?

With that in mind, what if Ivan gets revived because he was a favorite and originally a present for his segyein's wife? He was beloved by both the audience of alien stage and Unsha's wife--it wouldn't be out of the question for them to try and bring back their beloved pet.

Now let's imagine that actually happens. And then Ivan comes back and is all excited because, oh my gosh, maybe everything did work out, maybe god is human, maybe they did have mercy on us, maybe me and Till could finally meet again after everything, maybe we could finally have at least a little time.

But they don't.

Because Till is dead. Shot like all the rest.

And Till won't come back, because to the aliens he was just a mutt. A toy for his segyein and nothing more. And Ivan's initial sacrifice was for nothing.

He came back wrong with his very lifeforce reconstructed by the aliens, tainted, impure, not the same, and after all that, Till isn't even back. Mizi and her new friend Hyuna are trapped in alnst all over again. And it's all because of him.

Ivan might as well be better off dead.

[shakingparadigm]

since it wouldnt make narrative sense for sua and ivan to be revived, is it possible their bodies are being stored somewhere?? i know hyun woos buried in anakt but since they were actual participants do you think theres like an alien stage cemetery. or like theyre being stored in tubes like that one luka drawing. something something circle of life sample dna to get the best idol

I'm honestly not sure what they do with the loser's bodies after their deaths (I know in the early drafts the loser was fed to aliens, but I'm not sure if that still applies now).

Maybe it depends on what the guardians want to do with them? Nigeh is already extremely neglectful and quickly forgot about Sua after her death, so I don't think they'd care enough to have her body stored. Maybe Unsha would consider preserving Ivan, but human pets are more like products to him, and if Ivan isn't actively bringing him success then I don't think Unsha would bother keeping him either.

Overall, human pets are mostly treated as commodities. Aliens can adopt several at a time and often own more than one pet, so a loss of one wouldn't bother them too much (as seen by the behaviors of the other guardians, who move on very quickly and immediately start cultivating their next talent). Especially since aliens are disconnected from the feelings of humans and view them as lower life forms. It would be interesting to harvest a deceased pet's DNA, but they'd most likely have to dispose of them after a while. Plus, it seems like most human pets are born through normal biological means rather than artificially made (with Luka being a special exception).

Once again, I'm not sure on the actual answer. I personally still hold the idea of their bodies being preserved somewhere (just for the extra pain factor), even if it might not logically be the case in canon. This is very interesting to think about, though!

[crustyfloor]

he played kickball with Till's flowers

og image btw

[webwanderer]

Immagine how Ivan's guardian (Unsha) reacted when he saw his human-pet kiss the human-pet (Till) of his deadly rival 😭💀

[pwippy]

i feel like a little scavenger rat. like a tertiary source if you will. i think some of the weird anact/anakt (i still dont know) things have been foreshadowed before they were released on patreon?

idk these shots very much give brainwashing and 1984 vibes? especially that second one like... dawg

as a whole anakt *does* seem to be a place to encourage musical talent but in a very. brainwashy way. not just to sing well but to sing perfectly. like *cough* a doll. and in a way that keeps the humans from rebelling.

it also seems to be somewhat secluded and prestigious? which makes sense like. if icons like ivan and luka come out of it and theyre getting a ton of brand deals and supplies to be medically monitored that has got to take a lot of money. also what with unsha and urak being in a weird mafia business situationship im not exactly sure but! sketchy power dynamics and that probably means money and again that probably means youd want to send your human pet whos gonna live like 50 years max to the place which is known for the best money making pet humans. idk.

not to mention how far anakt actually is from the cityscape (distance of the buildings during the meteor escape + the transportation vehicle things?? im assuming theyre that since mizi brought a lot of little things like a comb and a stuffed animal. which do give more of a going somewhere and staying rather than easily going back and forth blahblahblah)

(on a less relevant note. ivan. my guy. where were you running to. that is NOT the direction you need to go to live your underdog life.)

idk at what point the characters debut in entertainment but i assume it would still be when they're at anakt? many people have noted the similarities between alien stage and the kpop industry so it wouldn't be surprising if they debuted at very early ages, especially considering how the aliens live much longer and might want to debut evens ooner to maximize profit. i think this timing would also match up with ivans masking tendencies (from going to calling till a loser while. also being called a loser to an extent -> practicing his smile + being called "too perfect" which would be beneficial to develop quickly ig?)

it would explain the in-universe fanbase situation too. why would fans be rioting for a participants REVIVAL unless they knew them enough? sure sua could present herself during the prelims but theres no way that would be enough. (also there was whatever going on with the chuck e cheese situation- i. its giving mall santa? honestly dont know how to explain that. probably improved her publicity though)

not to mention luka looks way younger during this sequence. yes bud was made in a lab so hes bound to get more attention but. idk.

pleasee do not percieve this it is way too early in the morning and i am not coherent