#htgawm fans

[criterioncollected]

scandal + dog motif

it will come back - hozier / s3e2: guess who's coming to dinner / saint bernard - lincoln / s5e21: that's my girl / leash called love - the sugarcubes / your dog - soccer mommy

[thatonegreenbro]

Ah! You attack my heart! Happy Valentines Day!

Bonus:

[halalgirlmeg]

YOU..

were always faster than me. I'll never catch up with you!

[geekhatter]

I love going through old files and finding hidden gems

[counttwinkula]

oh btw. i'm a desperate housewives fan now

[sodamnelectrocute]

Cicely Tyson and Viola Davis acting together was a gift.

[clustermuck]

ugh...I'm still very upset about how part 2 handled Colin & Pen's characters post-LW reveal, ESPECIALLY if they weren't going to give us a lot of Happy!Polin married bliss after their reconciliation in ep 8. If you're gonna have a boat-load of angst in a story like this, you need to have a balance of resolution and happiness, otherwise there's, like, narrative whiplash (which is basically how I felt about the epilogue...)

HOWEVER — as right as I think I am that they could have made better narrative choices with writing and editing this season, I'm also starting to be like,

"are angst-driven stories just not for me?"

I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm down bad for the enemies-to-lovers/bickering couple trope and I always appreciate a quality slow-burn, so I'm hardly against angst in any form. That is, until that angst is prolonged longer than the plot or the characters organically would or should suffer with it.

So, maybe this is me just not understanding what it means to watch a Shondaland show?...I've never been a Grey's or Scandal person and I dropped out of HTGAWM pretty quickly. So maybe Shonda's approach to romance isn't for me and I need to recognize that in the show to enjoy it (or try to)? Perhaps I'm asking the show to be something it's not...it's like going into a Subway and asking for an ice cream cone—I don't know.

I guess my hill I die on when it comes to stories of any kind that feature romance is: don't confuse angst with conflict. They aren't necessarily the same thing. There is so much Polin angst in those last two episodes that could have resolved without resolving the conflict of the Queen/Cressida vs. LW (or even between Penelope and Colin! There could have still been tons of conflict there, it just should have manifested in them being on the same side of the conflict...more Polin vs. The Problem rather than Pen vs. Colin and The Problem.) I guess I mean having Colin be stonewalled against Penelope for so long (narratively speaking, I get that it was only 2 episodes) didn't feel honest to me. I understand where all of his feelings of anger, betrayal, and doubts were coming from and he's totally entitled to them! I'm not trying to take that very real, honest response away from him. But by the time it was, like, mid-episode 8 and Colin was still acting almost cruel towards Penelope, it started to feel like angst for angst sake, not for the betterment of the story. And whether or not angst-ridden stories are your "type" of show or not, you can tell poor choices from good ones and I do believe that even for fans of Shondaland's approach to storytelling, there was much to be desired. We all deserved a bit better than what we got.

[destinyc1020]

I'm sorry, but we are not going to pretend that a British white man working with black people is the same as a black woman working with black costars. Again I recommend people to listen to the interviews of Halle Berry and Angela Bassett about how few roles they were offered after winning the Oscar for Best Actress (Halle) and being a Best Actress nominee (Angela, for a performance that was the best in its year). Racism in Hollywood runs deep and Black women are relegated to supporting roles or to "black projects". Plus Z has to contend with the issue that she's light-skinned, so being the lead of a majority-black project would be frowned upon. She's trying to establish herself as a lead adult female dramatic actress and she just released a couple of months ago her first widely released theatrical movie where she's the lead. Z herself said that even after her Best Actress Emmy win what she was being offered was two-dimensional "girlfriend" roles. And let's remember that her first movie that had limited theatrical release and where she was a lead she had a dark skin black love costar (a movie she co-financed).

So let's stop the silly comparisons equating the experiences of white men and black women in Hollywood. They will necessarily have very different paths

Ohhhh....here we go again..... 🙄😒

Nobody is saying that Z has the same exact opportunities that her white, male, counterparts do. I think everyone realizes that Hollywood is still racist and colorist to some degree.

Nobody is even saying that she is getting a plethora of great roles her way after 2 Emmy wins. Most woc don't get that luxury after we win awards. Another thing is that even white women in Hollywood get regulated to girlfriend and "hot girl" roles in the industry. The roles for women in HW can be sucky just all around.

What SOME Z fans are saying however is that OTHER Black actresses in Hollywood can work with Black actors in films, and so can Z. I think the excuses are starting to seem a little side-eye worthy at this point.

Halle has worked with Black people in her film career. THEE Viola Davis just did "The Woman King" with a fully Black cast. She was also in HTGAWM with other Black cast members.

Many fans just don't see why Z can't do the same? 🥴🤷🏾‍♀️ That's all fans are saying. I also don't think that Z playing one of the leads in a fully Black film would be as horrible as you might think. People will see a movie if it looks interesting, point blank. Plus, Z already gets flack from racists for playing MJ in the Spiderman Franchise, so what's the difference?🤔 She will continue to ignore the nonsense from ignorant people, and continue to do her. That's what you do! Almost EVERY actor has gotten some hate for being linked to a role. It doesn't change the fact that the film keeps filming, and it eventually releases (and most ppl change their mind about the actor in the role rofl 🤣).

Not only that, but plenty of biracial women have played in lead roles in "Black" films before. Halle has done it before. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Thandie Newton has done it before. Jurnee Smollett has done it before. And not only that, but the Black community LOVES Z. They'd support her if the film is done well.

I don't think that anyone is trying to compare Z to White, British men in Hollywood. They're just saying how it's kinda sad that even her bf has worked with more BW in films than even she has, and yet, she's the one who's always preaching about working with "Black Creatives".

I'm pretty sure Z will one day work with more Black creatives in Hollywood in her films, so that's why I'm not even worried. But to act like it's not a little strange to continue to make excuse after excuse, after excuse is a little naïve to me. When do you stop making excuses? 🤔

[awrkive]

Hey how r u

Is it possible to get any recs from netflix

been doing well!!

so i dont really subscribe to anything lmfao i bring a "just 🏴‍☠️ it" vibe to the conversation that my "which streaming service is it on" friends dont really like 😭✋🏼 BUT!! i think for shows these are available on netflix:

suits, brooklyn 99, htgawm, lucifer, the queens gambit, sherlock, peaky blinders, breaking bad, s17-onwards of hells kitchen

ofc it depends on the region youre at. i watched all of those shows when they were still on my country's netflix but im not sure anymore if theyve taken some off already bcs they seem to take a lot of stuff off their service 💀

anyways i generally am not a fan of most netflix originals so if ur specifically looking for that i cant list you anything sorry 😭😭

[zalrb]

What are the worst casted (cast) shows do you think in terms of chemistry in terms of like nothing about these shows work?

I am a fan of your blog so I know a few like Riverdale, Shadowhunters (expect for Jace and Alec), The Flash, The Originals. Are there any others?

And then what are some of the best casted (cast) shows in terms of chemistry, in terms of this just works.

Also, why do you think that casting directors get chemistry so wrong? Like Shonda Rhimes is known for working with the same crew on all of her productions and they did Scandal and HTGAWM where the cast just worked well together and the chemistry between all was so well done but now she’s doing Bridgerton where the chemistry is just not there even though she works with the same crew who cast Scandal. So, why do you think that casting directors (not just Shonda) are getting chemistry so wrong?

I read through your “Actors, Directors…chemistry between characters” and they say that it’s something you can’t fake, and it’s there if it’s there. But then why do they get it wrong sometimes? Why cast actors with no chemistry if you can feel it, or you can not feel it?

Hmm, it's a lot easier to talk about shows where it all just works, like The Bear is a cast where the chemistry is excellent

because they all riff off each other incredibly well, hitting all the points, there's a fluidity to that cast that is necessary for everything that they do with each other. For Carmy to call Richie 'cousin' even though they're not related, JAW and Ebon have to have the chemistry to pull off that kind of closeness, to be like family, where you don't feel any hesitation or distance or coldness, they just have to go there

For Syd to go through the various emotions that she does with Marcus depending on the stress level of the kitchen plus that flirty awkwardness, Ayo and Lionel need to have chemistry.

In fact, 2x06, which I consider to be the best episode of the series so far was really interesting because there were moments in the episode that didn't flow as well as other episodes because of all of the guest stars and they didn't have the same kind of fluidity and familiarity that the core cast had, which worked for the episode considering the themes of the episode but I was like, yeah it's a bit more jarring to watch the interactions because they don't have the same kind of chemistry.

Succession is another one where it just works in a way you don't think it does because it's a naturally awkward show but I mean, these are siblings

so i liked when sarah snook said they kept doing the scene over and over and then kieran asked her if he could slap her for real during one take and she said ok and so he did and then something in her reacted the way you would to a sibling and she just went after him. she was like you can see it in my eyes i just turned

and they just started wrestling the way siblings would and that’s the take they used and it makes sense because that scene is really organic.

That 70s Show, when I did the rewatch a few months ago, I re-realized that they had lightning in a bottle with that cast and there was such a commitment that I don't see in shows now

like if you want to talk about a show that really goes for it, T70s isn’t brought up nearly enough, they committed to the physicality of a scene

like in general

and I'm talking a lot about commitment and trusting your scene partner, which is definitely a part but it's not just that. Like in TGP, Kristen Bell commits to Eleanor's love for Chidi, there's a particular scene where she's insisting that they wake him up, and she's explaining why they need Chidi and you hear how much she loves him in her voice and see it in her expressions

I believe Eleanor in that moment because Kristen is committed to the scene but together they don't have romantic chemistry, it just doesn't work in that framing

I talk about the cast chemistry in Breaking Bad

Elite was a quasi-fascinating viewing experience because in season 1, everyone was paired with the people they had chemistry with that it made me forgive a lot, like, a lot of plot and narrative holes

and then from season 2 onward, they started mixing the actors up and it didn't gel as well and I was like, you messed with a good thing.

Gossip Girl was also a cast with chemistry

In terms of shows that don't...I usually block the shows out, lmao.

I can't really expand on this because I only saw half an episode, initium had Supergirl on at her place once and I had such a violent reaction to it that she changed the channel and she never changes the channel when I don't like something, she makes me stew in it (that's how I ended up watching Riverdale and Shadowhunters in the first place) but it was just ... bad, like, stilted and dry and flat, I just remember being like

It's weird to talk about Mindhunter in terms of cast because it's about two FBI agents but I remember, I couldn't get into it, couldn't get into the plot because it was centered around these two agents and they were so stiff and flat with each other and I expected a chemistry like season 1 of True Detective, Woody Harrelson and Matthew Mcconaughey worked well together, they vibed, and immersed me in their relationship, which was tense, and their case.

Regarding why and/or how casting directors/EPs etc. miss chemistry with certain casts or leads, I'm not really sure how that happens, I couldn't guess, haha.

[rowrowknowa]

ABOUT ME :D

Basics

✮ name - you can just call me E

✮ age - 23

✮zodiac - can you guess?

✮ gender - i use she/her pronouns, but don't mind being referred to with they/them and use of pretty much any gendered words (bro, dude, man, boss buddy, sis, girl, etc) doesn't bother me [[[dont call me sis if ur not black tho]]]

✮ mbti - ENFP-A consistently for the past 6 years (was INTP-T in HS)

✮ studies - huge into science ask me what kind; i also like music theory/history, art history, philosophy

Interests

✮ games - nintendo fan (no matter how much they piss me off). love pokemon, fire emblem (obsessed with fe3h), zelda, animal crossing etc. HUGE sonic the hedgehog fan

✮ anime - too many to make an exhaustive list without forgetting some. obviously my favorite is One Piece (i think my favorite show in general). i started watching it when i was like 4 with the 4kidz dub and here i am almost 20 years later still going oda and i locked in fr. also love attack on titan, naruto, death note, fairy tail, jjk, knb, hxh, black butler and so many more this is stressing me out trying to think of what ive watched so im gonna stop... ask me about what i've watched lets yap

✮ non-anime shows - gotta big ups to ATLA a modern masterpiece of western artistry. don't ask me about the live action bc i don't wanna talk about it. same deal here i cant think of all of them without short circuiting but top of mind i LOVE the good place, scandal, htgawm, grey's anatomy (before it crashed out), bridgerton, BREAKING BAD (not caught up in better call saul), superstore, vincenzo, crash landing on you, goblin, anything with gong yoo and/or lee dong wok in it tbh, strangers from hell, bad and crazy, attorney woo

✮ used to be super into marvel and the mcu (and i know thats a thing people say but it was so so bad for me) but its not what it used to be and also i think i started outgrowing it once my media literacy improved its ties to military propaganda couldn't be ignored lmao (also sabra being in the mcu is sosososo crazy) .. some of the comics still bang tho i wont lie

✮ music - not to be one of those "oh i listen to everything" people as a cop out but i truly do listen to so much disparate types of music *insert laugh crying emojis* but my overall favorite genre is jazz, i love 70s-00s black american music so much (i was a 9 year old motown stan it was so serious to me), love afrobeats, amapiano, baile funk, r&b, rap (meg thee stallion is literally my wifey), pop, country, classical, VIDEO GAME OSTS (in true sega stan fashion) -- recommend me your favorite song!

✮ kpop - a separate bullet because i know where the overlap in interests comes in lmao. honestly ive fallen back from kpop a bit, not as into it as i was like even 6 months ago but groups that i still actively follow and listen to are ateez (ot8 but strong swing for mingi) and nct. also know alot about bts, txt, seventeen, exo, and shinee if you ever want to chat about them, but i listen to mostly individual songs from them and other groups and don't follow their releases

Where is E in *insert work here*?

✮ pls i hate all spoilers but these are the ones i strongly care about pls take note pls :(

One Piece: ep. 1085 ... i avoid catching up because i get sad when there's no more to watch

FE3H: Finished Golden Deer and Blue Lions, please don't tell me anything about the Black Eagle story line

GOT/HOTD: caught up!

[cyarsk52-20]

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Happy Birthday to the reason Thursdays became must see tv with wine and popcorn! 🍷🍿

@shondarhimes your 🖊️ game has always kept us on the edge of our seats and kept the classic reads for filth on point! You know just how to show off a strong Black Queen because you are one yourself and we truly appreciate you. 👸🏾❤️

Quick temperature check though from the fans, Greys, Scandal, HTGAWM or Bridgerton? 👀 GO!

If you were any character from any of the shows created by Shonda Rhimes, for a whole day , which one would it be

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[badsalmonella]

The HTGAWM fan to Camelot fan pipeline is REAL Y'all

[deakyjoe]

Same anon from the movie question: you're a Heath Ledger fan? Who are your other favourite actors?

I love these film related questions 😭

So here are my top actors. Some of them I have seen most of their filmography and others only a little but still think they are remarkably talented and/or entertaining. The favourites I’ve listed are purely about their performances, not necessarily the films themselves.

1) Heath Ledger. Obviously. I have loved him my whole life and I can barely think about the man without crying. He was phenomenal and could do anything. I’m so sad he didn’t get to see his own Oscar win. Favourites: 10TIHAY, A Knight’s Tale, Brokeback Mountain, The Dark Knight

2) Jake Gyllenhaal. Give this man an Oscar already. Every few months I suddenly remember his filmography exists and rewatch as much of it as I can. Favourites: Brokeback Mountain, Zodiac, Prisoners, Donnie Darko, Nightcrawler, Love & Other Drugs, (I could list several more)

3) Nicolas Cage. Okay so maybe he’s not the best actor in the world but I will watch anything this man is in. And I mean ANYTHING. Favourites: National Treasure, Knowing, TUWOMT, G-Force, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

4) Pedro Pascal. Another obvious one. He’s so good and I’m so glad he’s getting so much appreciation at the moment. Give him an Emmy please. Thank you. Maybe not the first that comes to mind when you think of “great actors” but certainly should be. Favourites: Prospect, TUWOMT, TLOU, The Mandalorian, Kingsman: The Golden Circle, Narcos

5) Viola Davis. I cry every time she cries. She always hits me right in the gut and you can feel every ounce of pain. She’s EGOT for a reason. Favourites: HTGAWM, Prisoners, The Help, Fences

6) Angela Bassett. You know you’re going to see a good performance when Angela Bassett appears on your screen. Favourites: Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, 911, AHS

7) Paul Dano. Soft-spoken and constantly being beat-up on screen. And yet he’s incredible every time. Favourites: The Batman, Little Miss Sunshine, Love and Mercy, Okja, There Will Be Blood, Prisoners, Swiss Army Man

8) Samuel L. Jackson. Every time this man says “motherfucker” I smile uncontrollably. Favourites: MCU, Pulp Fiction, The Incredibles, Star Wars, Kingsman: The Secret Service, Snakes on a Plane

9) Queen Latifah. Brings a certain energy that cannot be matched. Favourites: Chicago, Hairspray, Ice Age

10) Lucy Liu. I fell in love with her when I saw Charlie’s Angels for the first time. Favourites: Charlie’s Angels, Kung-Fu Panda, Chicago,

11) Michelle Yeoh. She’s just cool, man. I don’t know what else to say. Favourites: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, Last Christmas, Reign of Assassins

12) Jeff Goldblum. He plays every character the same but IT WORKS and I love it every single time. Favourites: The Fly, Cats & Dogs, Thor: Ragnarok

13) Willem Dafoe. I never intentionally watch films with him in them but always get a million times more excited when he shows up in them. Favourites: Spider-Man, American Psycho, The Great Wall

14) Joe Mazzello. Underrated actor honestly, deserves a lot more appreciation and better roles. Petition to get him a better agent. A lot of his work as a child are great as well. Favourites: Bohemian Rhapsody, Jurassic Park, The Pacific, Undrafted, Dear Sidewalk, The Cure

15) Leigh Whannell. The guy is Australian and plays whiney, pathetic characters. What’s not to love? He’s also a great writer and director! Favourites: Saw, Dying Breed, Cooties, Insidious

[tibetteswhore]

I made a thing

(Special thanks to @jenniferxjareau for helping me edit!)