#how to train your dragon movie

[scopeystfu]

literally looks like Toothless with a 256x256 texture pack

[rocketonin]

idk why i suddenly started getting into httyd but ITS THE GUYS

[amphiptere-art]

I am not happy about the new toothless design. I am going to call him dorkless. Because what the fuck is this.

He looks like a flat-skinned scaleless thing. I don't care if the lighting can make him look prettier. He still looks like some scaleless, elephantine, flat-faced something.

I'm supposed to be comparing these two and I'm sorry. The fucking cartoon looks more realistic than whatever the hell that thing is.

There is something wrong here.

Yes toothless has realistic skin or whatever. Yes he's got defined muscles or something. But in this weird fashion. Toothless looks two cartoony for this realistic movie.

And it's not that I'm wigging out about the fact that just toothless looks weird. Or that the other dragons probably look just as weird. I think the other dragons actually have redesigns!!

These pictures are of course very blurry and hard to read. Mostly because this entire scene goes by so fucking fast. But these are images of what I believe are a Monstrous Nightmare, Nadder, Terrible Terror, and Zippleback. And all of these designs look new.

The Monstrous Nightmare doesn't have ridiculously skinny proportions. The Nadder looks a bit more parrot-like. The Terrible Terror I barely recognized. And the Zippleback definitely has a much different and more defined face. It's not like they couldn't go through the effort.

Toothless's design is already the most realistic out of the cartoon depictions. But it is still a cartoon depiction. Parts of his body are supposed to be made to be stretched and squished. His face is a cartoonistic over expression fest. And yet I feel like they did nothing to the previous model. It feels like a copy and paste.

Like they clearly done something but it's just not enough something. Removing away a cartoonistic way of walking doesn't make a design anymore or less cartoonistic. Not only does it feel like they removed half of what made toothless look like toothless. Which for me is his back spikes and his emotive "ears". They seem to have sticked so close to the original model that it looks off in some scenes.

There are certain steps for realistic stuff that can be taken. But I feel like they've taken the steps wrong for toothless. Especially if the other dragons are redesigned. Toothless is going to actually look out of place among the others. Which while toothless was already somewhat out of place. He wasn't out of place design wise and that's going to be bad If he is here.

In my honest opinion they need to redo the scales on his face. They are far too small. It is not impossible to have different sizes of scales across the same area. It also feels like there's some weird issue between the eye and the eyelid. They are merging together far too much. Also where the hell are his little hanging doohickeys everywhere? Not only does it feel like some of his little ear things are diminished. But his back spikes, his arm spikes, hell even his tail spikes seem to either be completely gone or reduced to a point where you can't see them. I don't care how unrealistic they are. That made up so much of toothless's personality being even able to emote with his back. Toothless looks too Barbie flat right now.

I really hate that they've settled on this weird... Scientifically more realistic, but still as emotive as a cartoon creature. Those two facts don't mix together. It leads into the uncanny valley and that's a bad place to stoop to if that's not what you're planning to do. You can't have your squatch and stretch face and yet remove all the cartoonistic qualities from the body.

I really hope we're not stuck with this toothless because the other dragons designs do look really cool. They look like a realistic redesign. And it's just toothless that looks off. I hope they can quickly throw together a new model and have the same rig. I can handle a cartoonistic face if he can get his cartoonistic traits back. Otherwise please go back. And maybe take a note from How to train your Dragon live spectacular. Which did a realistic toothless.

And even if my every definition this is a fucking puppet instead of CGI or whatever. These creative directors went through the process of trying to think what a realistic toothless would actually look like. And they don't remove any of the features that make toothless feel like toothless. So I really hope they take some notes from this spectacular's page.

Because dear God. This is not the same emotion.

[asterism-unknown]

need to stop tearing up whenever i hear the httyd movie soundtrack

[luteofthunder]

OH MY GOD???

It actually looks really faithful???? WHAT? And it doesn’t look like shit like Disney’s attempts at Live action! Toothless looks like he can actually emote! *cough Lion King cough* Also hello the actor for Hiccup is also pretty good voice wise! Live Action HTTYD > Minecraft movie

Stoick could use a little more beef tho LMAO

[littlebookmermaid]

Okay but there's actually going to be a live action How to train your dragon movie and the director (Dean deBlois) from the original is going to direct it. Great news! I'm very happy that the movie is in his hands and apparently casting is already happening? This is actually real? It's not coming out until 2025 but based on what happened to The Hidden World i would say a 2027 date is more likely.....

Anyway, I think this could have the potential to be a very epic and beautiful movie (FYI: i'm not one of those people that hate on the trend to make live action from animated movies. I obviously will always adore and treasure the original animated movies more but i like seeing my favorite movies in new different ways and medias. It's just fun to have something to wait and anticipate for).

And maybe this is when the HTTYD fandom rises from the burned village and rebuilt itself again, i've missed the fandom a lot and i see this as a fun, new way to connect again.

(unless a new animated tv series is going to come out first that takes place after the hidden world with domestic hiccstrid and the rebuilding of New Berk without dragons... just manifesting)

[antennatoheaven]

[chrisery-business]

my biggest issue with the httyd live action-and just about any live action reboot is that it seems that the live action adaptations are being made to make the original “better”? like, so many people talk about a live action spiderverse, a live action hercules, a live action PRINCE OF EGYPT (dont piss me OFF.)-like animation is a beautiful work of art, and for some reason putting real people and cgi in it is supposed to be an “upgrade”? im probably being that friend that’s too woke or whatever, but i just think it’s so disrespectful to act like something that takes so much time and effort and energy is immediately considered as lower because it is animated. animation is beautiful, and it is one of the most heartfelt art forms there are, and erasing that for the sake of a cash grab is downright degrading to animation as a medium.

[velvetw0rmz]

How To Train Your Dragon doodles

It’s been really cool seeing other people’s interpretations lately and it’s inspired me to try a few!

[southpauz]

DO YOU BLEED?

[howtodrawyourdragon]

Rewatched the Test Drive scene and thought about how Toothless probably must've resigned himself to the possibility that he'll never fly like he used to, especially when there's a human boy on his back who needs a cheat sheet in order to slowly work his tailfin. He'll never be fast again, he'll always have to wait on Hiccup to figure out which is the right tail position, he has to be careful.

And then they fly through that maze of sea stacks and find out that flying is as natural to Hiccup as breathing, apparently.

[bookishswordfish]

Honestly, the main problem I have with the live action HTTYD trailer has nothing to do with turning an already perfect animated film into a live-action remake. (I did a speech on this topic. I could go on for DAYS.) It has nothing to do with any possible differences that will be made (or a lack thereof).

NO.

It has to do with THIS.

THIS SHOT RIGHT HERE.

TOOTHLESS’ PUPIL. IS NOT A SLIT. IT IS WIDE FUCKING OPEN.

Throughout the ENTIRE animated universe of HTTYD — every SINGLE movie and TV show — a dragon’s emotion is conveyed through the size of their pupil. A slit signifies typically negative emotions, like anger and discomfort. A wide-open pupil indicates emotions like love and comfort. In the animated movie, Toothless’ pupil cannot be interpreted as anything other than a slit in this scene.

In fact, the creators of the animated film have talked about this decision. It was very intentional. To remove this detail pisses me off, actually. It’s a very clever way to convey emotion in in-human characters in a very effective way. Toothless is probably more scared than he has ever been in his entire life. Of course his pupil is going to be thin as fuck. I just don’t understand why this incredibly emotional detail has been taken out of this incredibly emotional moment between Hiccup and Toothless.

[mist-the-wannabe-linguist]

Hot take

Night furies are actually perfectly evolved for hunting and killing other dragons and the only reason they aren't a dragon-hunting species like the death song or deathgrippers are is because DreamWorks couldn't have their adorable main character dragon be a "cannibal"

(below I'm gonna try to summarize what we've figured out in a convo with friends on discord)

(also tw animal death via predator)

First of all yes I'm aware that pretty much every decision made about their design was with consideration of the effect it would make on human audiences but hear me out

Night furies are most iconically known as dive-bombers. They are built for speed, high maneuverability, night-time camouflage and for striking targets from above. If we remove human settlements out of the equation (which would not have existed long enough to actually influence night fury evolution, come on), what does that leave us with?

They aren't built for catching fish for sure, they aren't very hydrodynamic and their head is round, wide, and their teeth are dull. Honestly, the monstrous nightmare is much better suited for catching fish, with its long neck, almost pelican-like jaw and rhamphorhynchus teeth

Compare to

Yeah the jaws look kinda like a porpoise of some sort but for that the whole body would have to be a lot more aquatic imo. The light fury looks a lot closer to an aquatic diver, it has a sleeker body, rounded fins instead of spikes, and a long neck.

I don't really see them hunting land animals either, they just don't look like they're adapted for that minus the resemblance with large felines and even then, they're too large to effectively hunt in forests.

The one thing I can kinda imagine them hunting is large mainland megafauna, but we're working with a setting that takes place pretty much exclusively on islands. And overall, dragons are the only abundant species there with the exception of fish and human-bred sheep and chickens.

In general, night furies have duller teeth, smaller claws and are smaller than most dragons. Disregarding the movies making Toothless weirdly OP, a night fury would be disadvantaged against most dragons in a 1v1 fight and besides, it has four huge weak spots that would highly discourage it from a direct physical fight - the primary and secondary tail fins. One unlucky rip in the membrane and the night fury is fucked.

The night fury however noticeably resembles falcons, given their dive-bombing ability and high maneuverability.

Falcons too have smaller beaks and weaker claws compared to most birds of prey, and for that they compensate by simply picking up speed, balling up their talons and Punching. Really. Hard.

And they use that ability to kill other birds, even much larger ones, by knocking them right from the sky.

Here, the night fury's plasma blast works the same way as a falcon's punch. Dragons are fire-resistant, so what the plasma blast does is really just a densely packed bolt of energy that has the effect of either stunning or outright killing prey by damaging its spine. And what the plasma bolt doesn't do, rapid contact with the ground would finish. And if even that doesn't do it, the night fury's wide jaws and dull teeth are just fine for simply clamping around the unlucky dragon's neck and strangling it, like a lion or a pitbull.

The night-time camouflage allows the night fury to soar for extended periods of time perfectly unnoticed in the night sky, and by the time it strikes, the dragon wouldn't even know what's coming.

Unless

Say the hunting night fury is aware of other dragons sleeping under the trees, as most dragons probably would at night (village raids aside, most dragons seem to be diurnal), so how does the night fury get them in position where it can use its signature attack? Well, there's That Iconic Screech Of Death. Since in the movies it tends to appear not just during dive-bombings but also when charging up a blast, I imagine it's something the night fury is able to control to some degree. So by simply fake-diving in close proximity to sleeping dragons, it can effectively terrify them into leaving their hideout and fly out into the open where it can easily take them out.

I dunno, the possibility of night furies as predators to other dragons just makes so much sense to me, I really don't know what other reasons there would be for them to evolve these particular adaptations.

And one more little headcanon to add to this whole rant - since night furies are significantly smaller and less equipped for dragon vs dragon fights and are primarily speed-based predators, I imagine there is this very likely scenario:

There is one dragon who resembles a hyena, a lil bit

Ok, rant over

[haveyouseenthismovie-poll]

[000marie198]

I don't care how excited it might make some people, I don't like this remake

[unholyxvoid]

httyd live action is to httyd fans as eels are to dragons