#honesty this one isn't that incorrect

[incorrectboysplanet]

Junhyeon: so what's for dinner?

Hoetaek: *staring at the food he just burnt*

Hoetaek: regret

[moonlightblueandicegrey]

My thoughts about b!Jay and Jay in general

I know that all the bizarro ninja are dangerous villains. But what about B!Jay specifically?

Let me explain why i think that he could be the most dangerous one:

Humans:

In my au and in my opinion, Jay himself is a little bit misunderstood and kinda underestimated by the people in Ninjago.

From my experience, i noticed that humans have this weird habit to be impressed by muscles and physical strength although it is known that someone can be dangerous and "strong" without the physical strength.

In my Ninjago headcanons:

My headcanons for Jay is that he looks "weaker" than he is. Jay is a skinny boy, without many visible muscles, and he is the cutest and shortest out of his team. Sadly, people see that as a weakness although none of those things means that Jay is weak. Jay is not weak. Okay, we must admit that Jay's "greatest ability" isn't physical strength, (as it is for Cole for example), but Jay has some other abilities that might become even more dangerous than physical strength under certain circumstances. An example is speed. My headcanon is that Jay is the fastest out of the ninja. But even now, speed isn't the main reason why i think of Jay (and in the next step: B!Jay) as the most dangerous.

Their way of thinking:

In my opinion, Jay's mind is what makes him as dangerous as i think he is. Because the other three ninja act like this:

Kai: He is strong and brave. But he is so brave and prideful that he becomes reckless. Yes, he'll go straight into battle and he'd rather die fighting than surrender. He'll fight to his last breath to protect the people he loves but this can be a mistake sometimes. Kai protects by becoming a "sword". He protects by attacking his enemy. Face to face battle even if you know you'll lose isn't the best choice. Sometimes you'll have to surrender in a battle if you want to win a war. (Yes, Gryffindor vibes if you are also a harry potter fan).

Cole: He isn't as reckless as Kai but his physical strength is messing with his mind sometimes. It gives him the feeling of winning but sometimes it's incorrect. Cole will surrender though but only if it's absolutely needed and if there is no other choice. He will fight to protect his loved ones but he will protect by becoming a "shield". He won't attack. He'll just fight back/dodge.

Zane: He has the potential to follow Jay's steps. But there's one problem. Zane is fair and honest. Although he won't start a battle that he can't win, his fairness and honesty will keep him a few steps back. Zane fights in the right place and in the right moment, when he is ready to do it and goes for a straight win (except if he has no choice but to fight earlier). He is not reckless and he plans his moves before going to battle. The problem is his ethic. He wants to win fair and with honesty, following the rules of a "τίμια μάχη" ("fair/honest/honourable battle").

Jay's way of thinking:

And here comes Jay: He is brave but he isn't reckless. He seems scared all the time but he isn't a coward. He'll fight when the time comes, but he just wants to save his skin. Jay will fight to protect if it's needed but he'll mostly fight for revenge (after the bad thing is done. Examples: Skybound, Prime Empire and Seabound). He doesn't give a fuck about such things like "fair battles" and "honour", "honesty" blah, blah. He just does whatever it takes to win or take what he wants no matter if his sneaky ways are unethical. Jay isn't the one who will throw himself into battle. He isn't the predictable one that you'll see coming to attack you from miles away. He is the type of guy that you won't even notice how he stabbed your back. And that my friend is much more dangerous than physical strength.

How's b!Jay related to that?

The question is, why does Jay use this thing only in specific occasions (like in skybound)? Because Jay is a hero. Jay has a good heart. He avoids using his unethical, sneaky ways to win and he just follows the rest of the team and the plans that the others make. Our kid tries hard, give him some credit for it.

Does b!Jay have this kind of problem though? No. Of course not. He'll just do it. Because he can. Because he doesn't care about being good. So imagine how powerful he could be if he only had a second chance in Ninjago... He could be a nightmare.

And i haven't seen dragon rising yet but i wish they could use Jay's potential now that he is villain. He could be great!

What do you think?

[thegeminisage]

lucanis/rook good. lucanis/neve good. lucanis/davrin DEFINITELY good. but i think we are sleeping on lucanis/harding. here's a link to some of their banter, though i'm not sure it's everything in the game.

harding starts the game casually threatening lucanis (like davrin) with her very fancy demon-killing arrow. and yet, aside from the one line where he points out that she only has the ONE arrow, instead of getting bitchy with her the way he does with davrin, lucanis seems to respect her bravery. he notes in another cutscene (i'll get to it later) that her being so small physically might have made it easier for other people to intimidate her when she was young, so it's possibly he was making incorrect assumptions about her based on her size and easy-going nature, and is surprised to find she's made out of pretty tough stuff after all, despite of those things

she then throws him totally off-guard by assuring him she isn't brave at all, but terrified of him (or spite), and she knows that if he does lose control, it won't even be his fault - but she'll put him down no matter how scared she is. lucanis's reaction to this is to first try to laugh it off as brutal honesty, and then grow sober and TELL HER TO KEEP HER BOW CLOSE? one little shred of sympathy and kindness totally obliterated whatever combative sarcasm he was gearing up to give her with that "only one arrow" business.

later, lucanis urges her to watch their enemies rather than him - he's genuinely concerned that she's so scared of him and distracted by him she's going to get herself hurt.

lucanis, who canonically doesn't sleep and gets lots of bad dreams, talks through all of harding's dreams with her - from the silly and mundane to the genuinely terrifying - and goes out of his way to buy her spearmint to help with her nightmares. like he cares SO MUCH

after weisshaupt (on my playthrough, anyway) we learn that harding has since GIVEN her demon-killing arrow to him to prove to him she trusts him, and he wants to give it back to prove that he trusts her. it's genuinely very sweet

also after weisshaupt, harding comforts lucanis and tries to get him to stop torturing himself over his missed shot at ghilan'nain. she's not alone in doing this, but it's still good

COFFEE SCENE. not only does this scene prove lucanis pays close attention to harding, he looks at her with so much fondness here...and after this scene, their party banter involves her working through what he's pointed out about her. his dialogue implies that she shouldn't change to appease other people - because he cares about her well-being AND because he thinks she's great just the way she is.

NOT ONLY THAT, but harding realizes lucanis's evaluation was so keen because he himself is a little bit of a people-pleaser - and with that observation, once again manages to catch him off-guard. she surprises him throughout their relationship

one of my favorite bits with them is comparing notes on their various magical situations. both of them are firmly non-mages who have been unwillingly saddled with magical or magic-adjacent abilities. lucanis is the first to figure out why constantly using magic always makes her hungry (from experience) and he can also relate to being completely freaked out the first time her magical abilities manifested.

near the end of the game, lucanis admits that harding's reputation with the bow is more than earned, and even expresses interest in working with her in the future, after the war against the gods has ended, for an absurd amount of coin. i've seen people point to this banter as proof that lucanis doesn't know the value of money ("it's a banana, michael, how much could it cost? ten dollars?"), but he does his own shopping - he absolutely does know the value of money, he just ALSO places a high value on harding's skills and trustworthiness. i would dare to venture he is smitten!

also, this. OWWW MY HEART

[wizardsix]

i guess i have to say it a million times since people insist on being dense: gale is just as much of a victim as the other companions. this isn't the trauma olympics. everyone has been through shit and deserves healing and redemption.

gale is not the self entitled, manipulative abuser people are painting him as. he's a lot of things, but nothing so heinous. he was groomed by a goddess who has a history of preying on wizards that threaten her power, and as a result, gale's ambition and faith was what drove him to discover the netherese orb. what he did was for mystra - in his mind, it was to prove his love by restoring her missing power - and by extension for the betterment of mortals. his actions were never malicious or selfish, in fact he puts himself so low on the priority list it's pretty much non existent. he was never going to use that power to usurp her, but mystra definitely saw it like that, which is why she didn't hesitate to present suicide as his only solution. he never crossed her personal boundaries in the way people are twisting it, he only wanted to cross the boundaries she put on wizards and their power.

people who insist he's all of these things and more clearly only spoke to him once or lack the reading comprehension to see past how much of an unreliable narrator he is. i can understand first impressions might put some people off, but you can say the same about the other companion introductions. i don't like comparing but since people insist on doing it; gale is one of the easiest companions to get along with just by being a good person, yet his honesty and selflessness makes people think he's secretly evil? while the companions with the capacity to be evil don't even try to hide it? how are people being so backwards about this? it's genuinely baffling and tiring to see people continuously spit out incorrect takes all too confidently.

no one is forcing anyone to like him, but it's unfair to completely mischaracterize him because you refuse to learn critical thinking. i promise using your brain is not as scary as it seems, or you can just. not talk about things you don't understand.

[pomefioredove]

Omg pls listen to my brainrot, wrote a 13 page paper and all i can think about are disney prince situations for our boys!!! Imagine any of the characters (mainly grumpy ones like Jamil, Leona, and Vil) in the place of Eugene from tangled. From unwilling to be around y/n to being impressed to falling in love and willing to honestly die if it meant she wouldn't have to sacrifice her happiness ( the hair cutting scene).

Maybe for Vil it was something like you both being paired for a movie role and it goes from professional (but he's unhappy) to unknowingly liking your company and being impressed by your acting or effort to full on in love after you praise him both professionally (as an actor and capturing emotions of characters) and personally (his effort in both acting and his looks plus his intelligence). Maybe a scandal breaks out and the readers career is being ruined for "seducing" Vil and he decides that instead he will take a career damage instead by coming out and stating that's incorrect.

Honesty Jamil's whole life is sacrifice and babysitting. He'll probably hate any new responsibilities, but imagine how much he becomes attached ones he loves someone and once someone actually appreciates him and sees him for more than just Kalim's shadow. I can easily imagine how he'll readily sacrifice himself for those he loves, after all it seems that sacrifice is what he does best. So it's probably second nature to give his happiness up if it meant you will be happy. (Something like Aladdin) he falls in love with someone so out of his reach. Maybe a close friend of Kalim or someone of that nature. they end up secret lovers. someone that is more socially acceptable goes to court the reader she ends up in an unwanted engagement. Jamil knows that he can't provide her with any of the riches her fiancee can so he becomes the bad guy. breaks her heart so she can eventually be happy.

Or maybe you have someone like Leona who at first only sees you as a nuisance but sees you're brave, sweet, and witty and eventually falls in love. I feel like the tangled movie works, but I think the princess and the frog works better. You've heard of Leona, know he's good looking, rich, and is a prince. He's never heard of you. You both end up in a sticky situation where your only allies are eachother and slowly grow to trust eachother. Maybe your certain this curse your both under a will break from a kiss from your bf, but instead nothing happens. And in the last minute before the curse is permanent he admits that though in the beginning you were a pain in the ass he's actually glad he met you and isn't all that upset about the trouble you brought him into/or he sounds genuinely sorry for sweeping you up in his issues. Either way, after that some heart felt confessions and the curse is broken.

Thanks for listening to me ramble 💋

OMG GIGGLING????? I LOVE prince scenarios 2uh3geuudje

can we PLEASE give jamil a happy ending;; give him the aladdin treatment and grant him 3 wishes. he is literally a diamond in the rough actually. TO ME

also leona as naveen makes SO much narrative sense, ""lazy"" rich boys with big family beef who would leave it all behind for someone they love. hoohhhh god I can see the light

[apenitentialprayer]

i've read that mormons and JWs are considered heretics because they don't affirm the trinity, so i was wondering what the sort-of 'cut off' point is. like would the ACOE be considered heretics because they say mary isn't the mother of God, only the mother of christ, for example

Alrighty, this is a big one. So, as far as the Jehovah's Witnesses and the (mainstream) Latter Day Saints movement go, things are.... a little more complicated in terms of whether their doctrine is "heresy" or if they are just plain non-Christian (and thus wouldn't count as heretical).

The crux of the argument that they are not Christian is that they do not affirm the Nicene Creed, which was articulated during the Councils of Nicaea (325 AD) and Constantinople (381 AD). While Mormons and JWs can affirm the most primitive of Christian creeds ("Christ is Lord"), the Nicene Creed very quickly took on the status of the σύμβολον, or symbolum in Latin; the "symbol of faith," the creed whose affirmation is itself a verification of one's Christian identity. That's why during the Council of Trent, for example, the Tridentine Fathers invited Protestants to participate in the Council on the condition that they could still affirm the Creed.

Of course, Mormons and JWs do not see it that way. They self-identify as Christians; and each group doesn't see themselves just as Christians, but as restorers of a purer, more original Christianity that had existed before the creation of that Creed.

But, anyway, if the conclusion of this argument is accepted, and members of the (mainstream) Latter Day Saints movement and Jehovah's Witnesses are not considered Christian, they by definition cannot be considered heretics; per the Baltimore Catechism, heretics are "baptized Christians, but do not believe all the articles of faith" (Q 1170).

The Assyrian Church of the East affirms the Nicene Creed, have Apostolic Succession, and have limited intercommunion with the Catholic Church. And, Christologically, they have an interesting situation going on. The Assyrian Church has not formally accepted the dogmatic Christological definitions of the Council of Ephesus (431). And, on that alone, the ACoE would seem to fit into the Baltimore Catechism's definition of heretic.

But over 1550 years after that split, the leaders of both the Assyrian Church of the East and the Catholic Church signed a document that affirmed that both Churches saw the other's Christological doctrines as valid, and that both theologies were expressions of the same Apostolic faith. You can read the full document, which is not very long, here.

But to abstract the discussion of heresy for a moment (bold of me to do, admittedly, after saying the last ask was a little vague); we need to make a distinction between formal heresy and material heresy. As Pope Benedict noted in 1993, which itself was an echo of the 1912 Catholic Encyclopedia's description of heresy, the defining characteristic of formal heresy is pertinacia, which can be translated as "stubbornness." What makes a person a "heretic" in a condemnable sense is this pertinacia, this holding fast to falsehoods in defiance of correction by proper authority.

So while the first generations of Protestants may be considered formal heretics, Pope Benedict noted that this does not reflect the actual social and religious conditions of Protestants living today, who are simply living out their Christian faith in the traditions that have arisen since the Reformation. They may be material heretics, and the doctrines of Protestantism may be considered heretical from the Catholic viewpoint, but being a Protestant does not automatically incur the guilt of heresy.

And, in all honesty, most Christians alive today (and most Christians in all ages) have in all probability been material heretics - i.e., they hold some wrong or incorrect opinions concerning the faith, but simply out of ignorance and not in defiance of proper authority. And that is not a sin.

[mopeing]

It really frustrates me when I go into threads about JK Rowling, because there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate her, but most of the comments are completely made up reasons? Please don't lie and spread misinformation even about people you dislike, because it'll make your own position look weaker under scrutiny.

If you need to lie to make a point, people will think it's because you don't have one. So don't lie in the first place.

Not reasons to hate JKR:

- there is a star of David on the floor of Gringotts bank. This was in the movies, it was not described in the books. Unless evidence comes out that she asked Chris Columbus or whoever for that detail to be included, it is not evidence of antisemitism (that is not to say that the goblins in general aren't problematic though)

- she didn't say Hermione was black all along, she said casting a black actress as Hermione doesn't contradict her description (although it does)

- all the retconning and "oh actually X character was Y all along" after the series has ended. This isn't "problematic", it's just cringe. Nothing to get mad about

- she did not retcon Dumbledore as being gay after the series ended. I distinctly remember this being a topic of discussion while the 6th book was coming out. She didn't include it explicitly in the books, but it wasn't an after-the-fact change (Although it is a valid criticism that not including it explicitly in the books means it isn't representation)

- Seamus Finnegan being a clumsy Irishman who makes things explode. This was in the movies, not the books. In the books it was often Neville who was used for this comic relief

- she's a bad writer. I'm not saying this is incorrect, just that it's not a reason to hate her. People don't deserve hate for being bad at something, she deserves hate because she is a bad person. Please do not conflate these two; it is possible for bad people to make good art and it's possible for good people to make poor art. A lot of this insistence comes from people who used to be big fans of Harry Potter who now that they don't like her any more are now saying "well the books were shit all along anyway..." It just seems performative tbh.

- a trans character in Hogwarts Legacy being named "Sirona Ryan". Honestly this is the biggest stretch I've ever seen. Look - there's plenty of things to criticise about this game. The fact that one of the early writers was apparently a bit fashy and is responsible for the leaning even further into the goblin antisemitism for example. But this one character? I highly doubt JKR even had to approve of details that small, let alone the fact that the name likely isn't problematic at all. If you're reading this and, like me, you have no clue whatsoever what is apparently wrong with the name - it begins with "Sir" - implying that trans women are actually men, and ends with "Aryan" - implying that trans people are nazis. At this point, people are actively looking for things to get mad about even when they're not there. I'm not even sure the "sir" in "Sirona" is even supposed to be pronounced like the English word. How about getting mad about the actual obvious actually harmful things she does instead???

Actual reasons to hate her:

- her transphobic tweets

- the fatphobia in the books

- her transphobic articles

- the whole "Hermione is dumb for being anti-slavery" subplot

- her transphobic actions

- lack of regard for other cultures, whether it's the naming of foreign characters and places, or the fact that the wizarding Irish government apparently still isn't independent of the UK's

- her defending and associating with people more mask-off transphobic than she is

- she is a billionaire, and there are no good billionaires

Inb4 "how dare you defend this bad person" - correcting misinformation about a bad person is not defending them. Good people should also care about intellectual honesty. It isn't good to lie about someone just because the person you're lying about is bad.

[detective-inspector-her]

ValSkug Merge Incorrect Quotes Part 2

Ghastly : Valkyrie, what did you just do!?

Valkyrie : I took your advice. I stopped running from the problem and I tackled it head on.

Ghastly : I meant try emotional honesty, not murder!!

Skulduggery's house is on fire, but they don't know it

Ghastly : Damn, it's hot in here.

Valkyrie: I know, it's so hot there's smoke coming out of the vent!

Ghastly :

Ghastly : First of all, I'm assuming you have no idea what the problem with that statement is.

Valkyrie: What?

Ghastly : Second of all, we need to get the fuck out of here, NOW.

Ghastly : Yes, I'm adopting Valkyrie and you cowards can't tell me no!

Ghastly : Valkyrie, we tried things your way.

Valkyrie: No, we didn't.

Ghastly : I did it in my head and it didn't work.

Valkyrie: Standing next to sunflowers always makes me feel weak like ‘look at this fucking flower. This flower is taller than I am. This flower is winning and I’m losing.’

Solomon: Wow, you are not ready to hear about trees.

Valkyrie: Eat shit and die, Solomon!!!

Solomon: Eat shit and live, Valkyrie.

Valkyrie: I made lightly fried fish fillets for dinner.

Solomon: Valkyrie, It’s 1:15 am, what the fuck.

Valkyrie: Do you want the lightly fried fish fillets or not.

Solomon: Well, I mean yeah.

Valkyrie: So come downstairs while they’re still hot.

Solomon: Wait, you just made them?

Valkyrie: Yeah, I wasn’t tired so I decided to make lightly fried fish fillets.

Solomon: Say lightly fried fish fillets one more time Valkyrie.

Valkyrie: Isn't it amazing how I can feel so bad and still look so good?

Skulduggery: It's certainly a miracle.

China, about to leave the house: Don’t spend all day watching YouTube, okay?

Valkyrie: I FORGE MY OWN PATH!!

Valkyrie: No, I don't want to talk about physics! I don't know anything about the laws of physics because they are hard and boring. I simply would like them to behave in a way that is most convenient to ME and MY LIFE! Is that really asking too much?

China: Yes, as a matter of fact, it is!

Valkyrie: Well, guess what? Science is stupid bullshit!!

China: You take that back!!!

Valkyrie: No. Magic is awesome. Science blows. The end.

China: You need to stop swearing so much.

Valkyrie: Shut the fuck up.

China: Yeah, that's not how you do it.

Valkyrie: Alright sorry. It's just that it's hard not to swear. The words just creep up on me when I least expect it.

China: Now now, don't be like that. Just replace the swear words with 'beep' and you'll be fine.

Valkyrie: Shit the beep up.

China:

Valkyrie: SHUT, DAMMIT! I MEANT SHUT!

Valkyrie: Hello China, made anyone cry today?

China: Sadly, no. But it’s only 4:30.

China: You don’t deserve me.

Valkyrie: At your worst or your best?

China: I don’t have a worst.

Valkyrie: Because you’re already at your worst?

Fletcher: So… what would you do if you were in bed with me?

Valkyrie: Depends. Is your bed comfortable?

Fletcher: Yes.

Valkyrie: I'd sleep.

Valkyrie: Remember, Fletcher, don't do anything I wouldn't do.

Fletcher: I think I crossed that line when I got a date.

Valkyrie: Hey, about that love letter you sent me-

Fletcher: blushes What are your thoughts?

Valkyrie: The fourth sentence-

Fletcher: Yeah, that’s where I got really emotional and I-

Valkyrie: It’s “you’re” not “your”.

Valkyrie: Did you know you remind me of all 26 letters of the alphabet?

Fletcher: What? Like J F K W S Q X-

Valkyrie: No, like, U R A Q T.

Fletcher: Awwww!

Valkyrie: I fell—

Fletcher: From heaven?

Valkyrie: No, I literally fell—

Fletcher: In love with me the moment you saw me?

Valkyrie: MY ARM IS BROKEN!

Fletcher: Okay, but do you think I'm pretty? Be honest.

Valkyrie: I love you.

Fletcher, not paying attention: What was that?

Valkyrie: I said I’m selling you to the zOo-

Valkyrie: If I didn't know better, Fletcher, I'd say you were scared.

Fletcher: Heh, scared?

absolute silence

Fletcher: DID YOU HEAR THAT?!

Valkyrie: Ok so, apparently the "bad vibes" I've been feeling are actually severe psychological distress.

Fletcher: When's the last time you slept?

Valkyrie: Uh… a few days ago, I think.

Fletcher: A few- how many?!

Valkyrie: Uh… starts counting on fingers I need more fingers…

Fletcher: What you need is sleep!

Skulduggery: Valkyrie, I don’t think I can handle any more of your tomfuckery.

Valkyrie: Oh yeah? Well I can keep going until you’re all tomfuckered out!

Skulduggery: Your future self is talking shit about you right now.

Valkyrie: Jokes on them. I'll ruin their fucking life.

Skulduggery: Come on, Valkyrie! How any times do I have to apologize?

Valkyrie: Once!

Skulduggery: …No.

Skulduggery: May luck (and this picture of Valkyrie eating shredded cheese at 3 in the morning) be with you.

Valkyrie: I want to grow up and be like Skulduggery!

Skulduggery: That is called Acquiring Depression.

Valkyrie: I'm going to get myself some soup.

Skulduggery: Be careful not to burn yourself, it's hot.

Valkyrie: Pfft, I won't burn myself.

30 seconds later

Valkyrie, entering the room: I burned myself.

Valkyrie: Do you want to play 20 Questions?

Skulduggery: Sure!

Skulduggery: Whats your favorite color?

Valkyrie, laser fucking focused: Triangle. Do you like men?

Darquesse, bursting into the room: You two are having sex!

Nefarian, not looking up from their book: Really? Skulduggery, why didn’t you tell me? I would have put my book down.

Skulduggery: is wearing silk pants How does this look?

Nefarian: Like its slips on and off really easily.

Skulduggery:

Nefarian: No, I didn't mean it like that-

Valkyrie: We know what you meant.

Darquesse: How do you tell someone that you wanna have sex with them in a polite way?

Skulduggery: Excuse me Mx. Would you give me the honours of indulging in sexual activities with you?

Valkyrie: What the fuck is wrong with you two?

Valkyrie: Who would you swipe right for? Nefarian or Skulduggery?

Darquesse: I would delete the app.

Valkyrie: Hey, Skulduggery, remember how I had to go to the pharmacy to pick up my ADHD meds?

Skulduggery: Yes?

Valkyrie: Well, it turns out they're all out for the next five days.

Skulduggery: Fuck.

Valkyrie: It's gonna be a fun week!

Skulduggery: I'm going to ask Darquesse to destroy my soul.

Valkyrie: Nuh-uh. Through sickness and health, motherfucker.

Valkyrie: I truly go into housewife mode when I'm someone's soulmate- like, I'll make you pancakes and bacon every morning.

Fletcher: This is a lie.

Fletcher: I'm literally dating them. This is a lie.

Fletcher: THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO COOK A PANCAKE, WHAT IS THIS.

Nefarian: Look, I know you think my judgement's clouded because I like #### a little bit.

Valkyrie, holding Nefarian's notepad: You doodled your wedding invitation.

Nefarian: No, that's our joint tombstone.

Valkyrie: My mistake.

Valkyrie: If I see a bug, I simply leave the room elegantly and require someone else do something about it.

Valkyrie: If no one fulfills my wish, I simply never go back in there.

Nefarian: I only have 6 weeks left to live.

Darquesse: Oh my god, really?!

Nefarian: It's just a guesstimate based on the choices I've made.

Valkyrie: Hi, I'm Nefarian's emergency contact.

Counter Woman: You're here to pick him up?

Valkyrie: I'm here to remove myself as his emergency contact.

Skulduggery: Do you ever get pre-annoyed? Like you already know someone is going to piss you off?

Darquesse: What? No, I—

Nefarian: enters room

Skulduggery: jaw clenches

Skulduggery: Hey, quick question. How petty am I allowed to be?

[incorrectdeceptionquotes]

Hi.

So I just wanted to come on here to say something real quick.

I am so grateful and thankful for the people who, at one point or another, followed this blog. I've made some wonderful mutuals and made a couple of lovely friends along the way of just having fun with this blog because I had seen "incorrect quote" blogs since I was in middle school and had always had a blast reading them.

I started this blog when I was 18 and just finishing up my first year of uni, feeling really lost and like I just didn't know where I was going in life, in all honesty, I kinda hated where I was even though I had been accepted into one of the top universities in the world and had already made amazing irl friends. I had no reason to be unhappy, but I wasn't happy with myself, and I felt like I wasn't good enough to be there.

Starting this blog and writing fanfiction for this show helped truly ignite my love for writing and made me think that maybe I might actually be good enough to get through the rest of uni (which I did with top grades lol). It made me more confident in my work as a writer and helped improve my writing because I was always working on it.

I'm 24 now, I graduated from my bachelor's almost two years ago, and I'm currently working on getting my master's degree.

You know, part of me sometimes wishes that I had never even heard of this show because the finale truly has been nagging in the back of my mind since it aired. However, the other part of me is thankful that this was the thing to light that fire and get me to start writing for fun. Even if I look back on the older stuff I've written and wish I had written things differently, I don't regret it because it made the better writer I am now. So I guess the harcore obsession I had with this show at one point eventually paid off, just differently than I thought it would lol

I also want to be clear that this isn't meant to be some sort of tearful goodbye or that I'm signing off from the blog. I'll sometimes post here and there like I do now if something does come to mind to me. I still have a lot of fun with this blog! I just really wanted to come on here and say why I am still here (sometimes) and how much I appreciate all of you (even the silent followers).

Thank you for giving this blog a chance!

[maninthemiroh]

My CM DR as Incorrect Quotes P2

John: Do you guys ever have a civilized conversation that doesn't require insulting each other every time you get a chance? Strauss: No. Me: No. John: Didn't think so.

Dave, to Spencer and I: Woah, dude, premarital hand holding? That’s totally not groovy! Me, squinting: How many wives have you had? Dave, putting his hands up, placatingly: Touché.

Aaron, to Emily and Luke: I need both of you to help, and by "help,” I mean “do literally anything.” Emily, smirking deviously: Anything? Aaron: Aaron: I sense that I’ve made a mistake.

*While the team is in a shootout* Tara, trying to warn about the location of an enemy: To the left! Derek: Take it back now, y'all!

Spencer: When I first got my autism diagnosis, my first thought was, “Woah, it’s canon,” and I think that maybe things like that are why Corvid made me get tested, too.

Dave to Kate: If we’re in trouble, just throw JJ, Aaron, and Corvid at the problem, then hope for the best.

Spencer: Are you having another depressive episode? Me: A depressive episode? Me: I'm having a depressive series, and we're just on season one.

John: I can’t tell if you’re a genius or just incredibly arrogant. Dave: Well, on a good day, I’m both.

Alex, discreetly texting Kate: Alex, help! Me and Corvid are being kidnapped! Kate: Where are you? Alex: We’re with some strange man in a car, and Corvid is asleep. Help! Kate: I'll call Spencer. Spencer, answering his cell: Y'ello? Kate: Alex texted me and said she and Corvid were being kidnapped. Spencer: Whaddya mean, they're both with me- Spencer:Spencer, hanging up: I'll call you back. Spencer: THE NEW HAIRCUT ISN'T THAT BAD! Alex: WHO ARE YOU!?

Derek on Monday, glueing a dime to the sidewalk: Heh, heh, heh. Derek on Wednesday, walking down the street: Ooh, a dime! Must be my lucky day :)

JJ, holding the aforementioned item out to me: I made this friendship bracelet for you.Me, squinting: You know, I’m not really a jewelry person.JJ, retracting her hands: You don’t have to wear...Me, snatching it from her: No, I’m going to wear it forever, fuck off.

Matt: Emily, what did you do!?Emily: I took your advice. I stopped running from the problem, and I tackled it head on. Matt: I meant try emotional honesty, not murder!!

Tara: What’s the straightest thing you’ve ever done? Matt, embarrassed: Killed someone.

Derek: Working sucks.Derek: I want to be a malewife where my only responsibilities are being sexy and cute.

Kate: You need a hobby. Penelope: I have a hobby! Kate: Hitting Luke isn't a hobby.

Linda Barnes: *Is lying on the floor with her eyes closed*Dave: Hey, is she sleeping or dead?Kate, shrugging: Hopefully dead, I hated her. Dave, nodding: Yeah, me too.Linda Barnes, sitting up: First of all, fuck you guys.

Me: You’d be stupid to genuinely try and fight me. Luke: Oh, you’d be surprised how much stupid shit I do.

Tara: They made Penelope cry!Matt: Penelope always cries! Penelope, already tearing up: That's not true!

Derek: Don’t worry, I have a permit.Aaron: This just says, “I can do whatever I want.”

Emily: I like your new pants! Spencer: Thanks, they were 50% off!Emily, winking: I’d like them better if they were 100% off. Spencer: The store can’t just give away clothes for free.Emily: That’s... not what I meant. Spencer: That’s a terrible way to run a business, Luke.

John and I: We’re not funny, we’re just really mean, and people think we’re joking.

Matt: Thank you for not saying, "I told you so." Me, shrugging: When you’re as right as I am, you don’t have to say it.

Derek: Is this about me? Luke: No. Derek: Then I've lost interest.

John: Do you have a second to talk about the environment?Strauss, drunk again: Do you have a second to eat my farts?

Penelope to Spencer: You should change your passwords to "incorrect." Then, every time you forget it, the system will remind you, “Your password is incorrect.”.

Emily: Corvid likes to say ‘you can be part of the problem or part of the solution,’ but I happen to believe you can be both.

Matt: What’s up with you? Luke: What do you mean?Matt: You’ve been nice, helpful, and actually funny all day. What’s your game?

John: I truly believe that water can solve all your problems. John: Weight loss? Drink water.John: Clear skin? Drink water.Me: Want to get rid of someone? Drown them.

Spencer, talking to Matt: You’re trying to lure me into a false sense of security! Well, joke’s on you! I’ve never been secure in my life! And I’m not about to start now!

Dave: No more making fun of me when I misuse dated cultural references, alright? Are we cowabunga on this? Spencer, sighing: Fine, we're cowabunga.

Alex: Hey, wanna hear a funny joke?Me: I only like dark humor.Alex, turning the lights off: What do you call a fake noodle? Me:Alex: An impasta!

Aaron: I just had a long talk with Luke and Penelope about hitting, and now they are yelling, “It’s my turn to perpetuate the cycle of violence” before hitting each other.

Derek: If I run and leap at Corvid, they will most certainly catch me in their arms. Derek, running towards me: Incoming!Me: No! I’m holding coffee!Me, resigned: *Drops coffee and catches Derek*

Me: Dammit, you ruin everything! Strauss: You're welcome.

Strauss: Gagak isn’t answering my calls. Aaron: Allow me. Strauss: I tried 6 times, what makes you thi- Me, answering on the first ring: Hello?

Tara: Are you sure Spencer’s going to be able to handle that Ikea furniture? They’re not very good with technical stuff… JJ: Why are you worried? Ikea is easy to navigate! Everything’s color coded, numbered, and there’s even an assembly robot option to make it even easier for him, which we’ve obviously opted in for. All they need to do is press the clearly labeled ON button, scan the QR code on the front of the box, and it’ll take care of the rest. Even a monkey could do it! *JJ’s phone rings* Spencer: Hey, so I’m at Lowes… Tara: … Tara: I should have gone with the monkey.

Me: I told Spencer to grab snacks for everyone.Derek, looking through the options: Why did you grab fruit snacks? Are you five? Who even likes fruit snacks? *Aaron, Alex, Dave, Emily, Luke, Penelope, and Spencer raise their hands.*

Penelope: Let’s watch Sharkboy and Lavagirl. Me: Okay. Penelope: And make out during the scary parts. Me: Th- Me: The scary parts. Me: Of Sharkboy and Lavagirl?

Luke: *Is hugging me*. Penelope: Hey, it's my turn to hug Corvid! Penelope: *Grabs Corvid* Emily, kicking down the door: What do you mean, "yOuR tUrN"? We agreed now is my time slot! Luke: No, it's still my turn! Me, suffocating: Guys, you know I barely like affection as is, now you’re trying to schedule it…? Luke: But we need the moral support! Penelope: And you're like a giant teddy bear! Emily: If I don't hug you right now, I think the depression will kick in and my body will stop functioning. Me, tiredly: Fine.

Tara, on the phone: Where are you? Emily: I told you, I’m at home. Tara: Swear you’re not at Chuck E Cheese again? *Skee ball machine alarm goes off in the background*

Supervillain!Unsub: I have an army. Matt, shrugging: We have a Corvid.

JJ: I need life advice. Penelope, sipping Gatorade and eating cookie dough: You came to the right person.

Luke: The best part of an Oreo is the cookie part, not the frosting. Deal with it. Me: Darkness without light is an abyss, and light without darkness is blinding; you cannot have a coin with one side. Luke: YO, SOCRATES, IT'S A FUCKING COOKIE!

Spencer: I wish I could control wasps and bees to sting my enemies. Dave: You’re too young to have enemies. Spencer: You don’t even know.

End note: All quotes, though many were modified, originally hail from this link!

Divider credits: @/i-mmaculatus and @/v6quE

Taglist: @amiivrse @colettecrybaby @the-badass-penguin

[violin-check]

Thought it might be nice to give an example of what I'm planning to do with this blog, so here we go, with Lucifer from Hazbin Hotel.

[I.D. A screen shot from Hazbin Hotel of Lucifer playing a golden violin with fancy decorative patterns and frowning aggressively. The violin is held in front of his chin, over his bowtie. It has the chin rest on the left side of the tailpiece, indicating that it is a right-handed violin. Lucifer holds the bow with a grip that resembles a partially closed fist. End I.D.]

In all honesty, properly animating a character playing a violin can be very difficult, especially in a style that has four fingers rather than five. That said, there is one major flaw in this picture that immediately comes to mind:

The violin is on the wrong side.

Given that the chin rest (drawn as an orangey-red shape) is on the left of the strings, it's a right-handed violin, meant to be played with the instrument on the left shoulder and the bow in the right hand. Given that there are, in fact, left-handed violins, there's no reason for him to be playing a right-handed one.

(It's also worth pointing out that even if Lucifer is left-handed, he wouldn't necessarily need a left-handed violin. It's a common assumption that lefties need different instruments but it's not actually the case.)

A few other details:

his bow hand is just kinda bad. He's not holding the bow at the frog (its base, essentially) and he's got his thumb on the bow hair (not great for the bow hair or for actually playing).

He also seems to possibly be tilting the bow back towards his face, based on the angle its drawn at, which isn't good technique either.

He isn't using his chin to hold the violin in place, but that's a more common posture with fiddle music and not necessarily incorrect. That being said, it seems like placing it on his bowtie would be uncomfortable.

The violin's bridge (holds the strings off the body of the instrument) seems very short to me. Other than that, the violin itself seems pretty well drawn.

Most of these details are fairly negligible and can be chalked up to the fact that animating a violin being played the same way as it would be played in real like is probably very difficult. That being said, having the instrument on the wrong side entirely is a pretty big oversight.

[metamorphesque]

Your post made me wonder about the bad things in other countries histories that just aren't talked about. What have been neglecting to learn from? Why was it buried? Especially as an American, we aren't really taught anything that isn't "USA best ever!!!" As if the rest of the world is irrelevant. Which is just. Incorrect. There is so much to learn. Idk where I'm going with this. It just makes me sad how little some people know, without knowing how uninformed they are.

Exactly!

I think the act of realizing how little we know about certain *crucial* topics is the initiator of Change. The next step should be actively searching for other sources of information and not just passively accepting what's given by clearly biased groups of people/juntas.

Of course, one understands that it's impossible to learn about everything that happened in the history of humanity but what most people know is even less than the bare minimum. And, in all honesty, we can't blame everything on our educational background/education system for it's 2023 and one has more access to Knowledge than ever before.

[zerolostwalks]

The Canoe crew was discussing soulmate AU ideas earlier and I couldn't stop thinking about it. So now I am idea brain dumping here.

...

Bobby wakes up to find he got his locket, and he's so happy to see it's photo's of his bandmates. That is until he gets to the studio and the guys are talking about their lockets and Bobby sees that they each have twice as money picture slots as he does.

So when they ask if he got his locket, he just shoves it in his pocket and pretends he never got one. Alex is already weirded out by the grainy cryptid and the fact that for some reason they have blank photo slots, and the other two are bound to make a big deal about it. Potentially even seeing it as some sort of 'what if this means Bobby dies young?' sign. Which Bobby is honestly not trying to do himself.

What's worse is only Luke has any grounds to call Bobby out on his BS. As for some reason Luke's locket is the only to feature a Bobby photo.

So when it's the other three that die the night of the Orpheum show Bobby just loses it. They hadn't even met the rest of their soulmates yet. Never figured out what the blank slots were about.

During his month's long spiral he is approached by a man who claims to have answers. Turns out the only answers Caleb has to give is that once he owns a soul it isn't the person's to freely give anymore.

Caleb was not counting on Julie Molina. In all honesty, neither was Bobby, now Trevor.

Unfortunately now that Bobby has spent so much time and ernergy redefining himself as Trevor, he thinks even if Caleb doesn't own his soul anymore he might not have been incorrect. His soul wasn’t his to give anymore. Bobby really did die with the rest of them.

[dcscavengerhunt]

I don't think it's necessarily an incorrect stance or anything that Booster Gold's 'real name' is Michael because that's how people often refer to secret identities, it's just that, given how often people call him Booster and variations, it seems interchangeable in a way that it doesn't always for other superheroes. It's more that the phrasing of 'real name' these days has a lot of connotations of people not respecting chosen names and names from places with different naming cultures, and so for a character whose name can stand in for both of those things, it can be a little jarring to see. I didn't mean to say you did anything wrong! I just like to read Boostie's name in a certain way that not everyone does.

Ah I get what you're saying now. Thanks for clarifying. I dont really know what the character's own stance on it is (ie how he's written), but I can definitely see how calling a name "real" would be a loaded term for some people. I meant it as a non-hero name, but in all honesty hadn't thought about it any deeper than that.

This probably isn't the blog for expounding on the topic, so I'll keep it brief, but I really enjoy that comics are an excellent media for exploring stories about identity. We've got so many heroes running around and they all approach their hero-ness and their civilian-ness differently. Or take it a step further for the ones who acquired their powers, and there's the before and after to consider. I've not got a point here, just saying it's cool that this kind of topic could even come up. Like, considering names and identity is actually thematically meaningful to cape comics, and how valuable that is.

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Btw for all readers, know the ask box is always open for corrections and the like. I haven't read even half as much as the average fan, so it's certainly not impossible that I get something wrong!

[themself]

so wrt "i dont care about whether or not ai art is 'real art', i care about intellectual property rights":

while i want to validate where those concerns come from (a fear of concern over having ones livelihood lost- very reasonable, i am also an artist who has done professional writing and visual art) i think that within the left-wing critique of anti-ai art sentiments, a lot of people want to push back on the idea of intellectual property to begin with. personally, i became increasingly concerned as i saw an emphasis on copyright laws as a solution to AI, because many of us (myself included) don't believe in copyright laws.

if reusing other artists work is inherently unethical, in a way that must be emphasized via copyright law - is collage art unethical unless you ask for permission? is photobashing unethical unless you ask for permission? is sampling unethical unless you ask for permission? is fanfiction/fanart unethical unless you ask for permission? i think people want to push back on the idea that transformative use of a work is a violation of some kind, and emphasize that transformative art is still valuable, and is not something that should be illegal.

i do think there are valid concerns about the way corporations are using ai art to threaten peoples jobs-- but i do not see this as different from any other kind of automation, which i have yet to see people push back on to the same degree. a cynical part of me wants to say "people don't care about automation unless it affects them directly," but i don't think that's the whole truth either.

i think that this comes from a pushback to (1) tech culture, the idea that tech will be the worlds savior, and that this seems to be the new grift since crypto burned out, (2) the direct way lots of proponents of AI gleefully declare that artists jobs are over, and appear to actively take pleasure in upsetting artists and threatening their livelihoods. and (3) the (imo) incorrect idea that this is some kind of worse, more vile version of automation. i've seen people claim "well other previous kinds of automation still require effort, this one doesn't." but i don't think that's fair-- if we consider photography a kind of automation of portrait taking, is that not simply pushing a button? what about automated screen kiosks to automate away people who take orders? and so on?

this isn't to say i'm pro-ai inherently or i don't have concerns-- i absolutely do. firstly, i'm concerned largely about the specific kind of sanitized art that openAI and other image generators push, like the fact that anything challenging or "ugly" can effectively be censored out by their algorithms. secondly, i have concerns about the fact that text ai generation relies heavily on underpaid labor, and i also have concerns about the massive amounts of water that are consumed to keep computing cool for this (although in all honesty we do at some point need to have about the way computing and data centers work generally causing issues like this). and finally, the way that algorithms generally are trained with our own biases, leading them to be racist, misogynistic, and contain other kinds of biases we hold (way too many examples to link directly)

however, i think that a lot of the backlash comes specifically from the fear ones own livelihood. and i think that because this is specifically an argument rooted in emotion, people get very hostile in a way that leads to people arguing for reactionary ideals of art (that art has a quantifiable "soul" to it, that effort is what makes a work of art have value, that a specific kind of "training" involved to create a work is what makes it worthy). and i also see people reacting as if any usage of AI is a direct representation of that loss of employment/work (even usage from people in a way which never would have threatened anybody's livelihoods).

i think instead we should be more seriously thinking about systems of capitalism and that we should have greater empathy for other working class people, especially those who are under similar circumstances -- having technology used as an excuse to be replaced with cheaper labor. (think: the labor that exists to maintain these algorithms, the likely lesser-paid people who edit this work, and the lesser-paid people who generate this work. none of these jobs "vanish", they're downsized and paid less). this is something capitalists can and will do whenever they have the opportunity because the systems we live under incentivize them to do so. art is not unique in this regard-- if capitalists can hire less people, and pay people less money they will, they have every monetary incentive to do so. in this way i do not think that random people generating stupid or ugly images using AI are what threatens people, but instead a system which is eager and ready to replace you and anybody else the second that it becomes viable to do so.

i hope all of this made sense, and i want to emphasize that i view anything about this as a discussion - i'm happy to hear from people who feel differently than i do and hope we can talk about this together. i'm also happy to answer questions, i struggle phrasing things sometimes and i'm sure theres probably confusing stuff in here i wasn't able to iron out! (if you take glee in or think its a good thing people are gonna be losing jobs over AI you can go fuck yourself and i dont want to hear from you)

[garyfischy]

regardless of what mediums you wanna use how you wanna draw ever heres what you need to do

-if youre a cartoonist be very specific with anatomy studies. if youre gonna stick to really stylized cartoony shit then keep anatomy studying to just basic forms, joints etc and focus on figure drawing. id reccomend 'figure drawing methods for artists' but for fucks sake just go on youtube, watch a couple videos they all say the same thing anyways. as long as you're not getting blatantly incorrect info from a guy that doesn't actually know how things work and cuts corners. it's better to sweat and bleed learning how to draw basic forms like the torso and pelvis than do what i did (go through as many shortcut pinterest guides as possible, develop a flawed and stiff understanding of anatomy, use it as a crutch) .

but yeah figure drawing is useful because learning how to set characters up in different poses and composition are useful. for every cartoonist!

-2... i ran out of points to make. Think about artists you like, you don't even have to make long rambly analyses , just jot down why you like their art and what appeals about them to you. anything from that vintage mustang poster you saw the other day, to a 'fine art' artist you'd see in a museum to your favorite blog

3: study practically.

read artbooks, look at tutorials online, watch youtube tutorials from a variety of sources: but remember, regular practice is the goal here. don't get too hooked on watching tutorials or studying and just go outside and draw a little. try and apply those skills bit by bit.

4 here are my (amateur guy that draws online and isn't going to art school)'s random advice bits

supplies i think are a godsend no matter what: one really good pencil. doesn't matter what kind it is. i got fancy ones but in all honesty light or dark you just need one that feels comfortable to write and draw with. practice those artist grips! consciously think about lines: do i want thick or thin lines? and what can I do to change it? Are my lines unsteady? and am I unhappy with that? sure, then try a different grip, or see if a thicker, more bulky pencil works! but hey, i'm just some guy on the internet telling you to do things.

ironically, even as I wax poetic about how fun it is to collect wood/mechanical pencils, my favorite thing to draw with is a #2 pencil.

I could go on and on about art supplies and practical applications but all I can say is if you really like something, splurge on it and if you're not sure about it get cheap ones. It's not really about the subtle intricacies of each medium but if you even like it in the first place. Cheap vs expensive watercolors aren't gonna matter if you don't LIKE using watercolors.

..that being said I think color pencils are the exception to this as each brand varies in quality regardless of price.

here are some artbook reccomendations to finish off this jumbled, disjointed and haphazardly written post

-Sketching People by Lynne Chapman: I tend to lean towards the more practical when it comes to any advice. something that really boils down the way you do something and why to its core. This book is really good for that.

-Figure Drawing Methods for Artists by Peter Boerboom and Tim Proetel: it's a really fun exercise book.

-Space Drawing and Perspective by Superani: once again, practical, well translated , and really fun to do. Don't get superani's anatomy book though it's racist and pervy as fuck

-and so many more that I can't even list here. Just go to your local library and open up one of these babies, grab a sheet of paper, and just jot anything down that seems interesting to you. Capiche?