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constantly begging for askin to be in hell arc
#áŻoiáe ááoá táźe ááŠáŻe#he genuinely meant so much to me. been hyperfixating on one peice but that doesnt mean i'll ever stop rambling abt him#his writing is sogreat and amazing is always a blessing to read tybw agian and notices ore little details#his charcter is so well written#i never thought a charcter that appears i n 1 arc would have such an amazing writing#hes so greatly written but also hes not relevant to the story at all#WHICH IS WHY IM BEGGING FOR HIM TO BE IN HELL ARC#CMON MAN HE HAVE RELATIONS TO PURPLE JUST LIKE ALL THE RUKIA FANS THEORIZING HER TO BE HALF DEMON TOO BC SHE HAVE PURPLE EYES#AND ALSO WEIRD FONT THING IN ONE OF HER COVER
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sharing my original project đ
Title: With YouÂ
Characters: Eira and Luca (stage name LUKA)Â
⨠Makeup artist fmc and celebrity mmc ⨠Fake dating ⨠World tour ⨠One Bed (Twice) ⨠He falls first ⨠Long haired mmc ⨠Reserved/quiet mmc ⨠Welsh American fmc ⨠Slightly older fmc (3 years)Â
LUKA is a world famous musician on his first global stadium tour. Eira is his makeup artist. The majority of the story takes place in the US for that leg of the tour. Then briefly in Europe/UK.Â
Lucaâs manager forces them to enter a fake relationship after they are accidentally photographed together and the internet goes wild. Most of the book is them navigating their new reality and of course inevitably growing closer. Until dun dun dun, something or someONE tries to tear them apart.Â
With You pinboard found here!
Fun things that will be included:Â
lots of concert backstage content
red carpetsÂ
multiple fake dates for that â¨publicityâ¨
a sexy bodyguardđŚ
an awards ceremonyÂ
an adorable cat named WinstonÂ
positive fandom representation (but ofc will look at the negatives too)Â
Thereâll also be some serious topics, which include:Â
negative aspects of fameÂ
loneliness
mental health strugglesÂ
manipulation and controlling behaviour (not carried out by either mcs)Â
heartbreakÂ
Progress:Â
I currently have 8 chapters written, so still a very long way to go, but itâs coming along!Â
My goals this month were to 1. read through what I have and edit/make relevant changes and 2. share what information I can with you all on Tumblr.Â
Next month Iâll be attempting to write every day (word count to be determined.)Â
Any thoughts/excitement you may have, please let me know! Not only will I greatly appreciate it but it will also motivate me to no end!Â
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ngl i usually dont like child characters in shows, they tend to just be huge obstacles for the protagonists. however, anya manages to be likeable and fairly realistic depiction of a child which i greatly appreciate. that may be because she is actually helpful, even if she greatly over and undervalues what she does (depending on what the situation is, such as not understanding the gravity of certain actions she took that ultimately ended up helping the entire world).
it's rare we get a useful and extremely young character in shows that doesn't either make them immensely intelligent for their age, or very bitter. She acts her age and still helps at times, but of course not all the time. I appreciate Endo so much for that đđđ
Yeah, writing kids in fiction can be really tricky, and the success in Anya's character is one of the main things I respect Endo for. She is very much written like a child; impulsive, emotional, she thinks very simply but with great imagination, she's full of energy and she's developing her cunning. It's either that Endo has studied a lot how kids work, or he's possessed by a child's soul whenever he writes big Anya scenes.
And of course, thanks to her powers, she's made more active in the story. She has her own adventures going on at school, but then with her mind-reading she can get into the stories of the adults and help them, while also confusing them (Loid, for the most part đ¤Ł). That way she can still act as a child but be relevant in the stories of other characters, without acting out of character or too mature for her age.
And I just love how she's neither cute nor annoying 100% of the time. She has the perfect balance of being adorable and being an absolute gremlin.
Like, kids in media tend to be either one or the other. Anya is a spectrum, gracing us with the cutest cute to ever cute one day, and the "sleep paralysis demon" face the next. And that's how kids are in reality. They experience the world for the first time through their small, developing brains, and they adapt to their new experiences through various feelings, which can vary from adoration to monstrous cunning. Anya has expressions and we love her for that.
That said, she still has a lot to learn, as you said sometimes she undervalues the things she does to the point where she caused the deaths of the two hiding assassins in episode 35 and then slept like a baby. Like. Homegirl actually caused two people's deaths. I'm not saying she should have lost sleep over it, but it is kind of funny within the context.
In short, Anya is a great, adorable and funny character, providing great foil to some of Twilight's and Yor's traits so the story feels balanced.
(Anime only fan here, don't spoil me for the manga)
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For the Swtor OC asks! Best girl Endrali gets 62, 76, & 77! For the amazing Kina...14, 21 & 56! đ
Endrali
(KotET) 62. Was their love interest present? If so, how has their relationship developed?
Yes and no, since she's with Arcann, lol. He's there in ch 1, then gone until ch 6, then present for the rest of it. I could write books on how their relationship has developed (and have written a lot of fic, though p much all of it is post-KotET), but succinctly, they're in the middle of a good old fashioned enemies to lovers arc during KotET. He's been cleansed of his rage and it trying to atone for everything he did, she's hardwired to give people second chances, it's a very interesting dynamic.
76. Romance Questions(snipped to relevant ones): Did they romance Arcann? What made them fall in love with the man who was a former tyrant, now redeemed? When did they realized they cared for him?
She romanced Arcann because she saw how hard he was working to atone for his actions, without seeking recognition or credit or praise for it, fully aware some people would never forgive him and that was their right, just because he recognized and was taking responsibility for everything he did. He was doing it bc it was right, not because it was easy--in fact, despite it NOT being easy. She admires the strength and determination it takes to do something like that.
And then she starts bringing him on mission and aside from the fact they instantly sync up, he is a tenacious defender. It doesn't matter what it takes, what it costs/risks for him, he's going to protect. He's become someone patient, dedicated, considerate, humble, self-sacrificing who's also really hot when he's fighting /cough She's a Jedi, not blind
It's right at the end of my Unbowed fic(the Landing Party uprising, and boy was that fun to cover) that it clicks for her that she's attracted to him. I'd say it's about... a month(?) maybe two post-KotET by that point. /cue mutual pining
77. What are their feelings on losing the entire Eternal Fleet and the Gravestone and the greatly diminished power of the Eternal Alliance?
She's not looking forward to the way that power shift is going to ripple, bc she figures it'll hurt the people who just want to live in peace the worst. But she's honestly just a little bit grateful to have an excuse to not be the galaxy's go-to Most Powerful Solver of Problems(little does she know they will still expect her to solve all their problems. And get mad when she doesn't do it the way they think she should.)
Kina
14. Who is/are their favorite companion(s)?
PH4-LNX, Akaavi, and Bowdaar. She got Fay all the way to 50 and uses her all the dang time unless story constraints pair her with a certain golden retriever Mandalorian /innocent whistling
21. Would they continue their legacy by having children? Adopt? Get an apprentice?
I don't know, honestly. She had a rough childhood that she recognizes is a far cry from a normal one, but she's ambivalent about kids. I think if a) her partner wanted kids, b) a kid wandered up and attached him/herself to Kina, or c) BOTH she'd go along with it, but she's not going to be pushing for any herself.
56. Should Vette get them a giant droid for Life Day?
Absolutely, nothing could possibly go wrong in any way with her doing that.đđđ
SWtOR OC Asks
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Okay, this is probably a bit of a weird question, but do you think Matty and Taylor are in a real relationship with their current partners? If this is all a game they're playing, does that mean they're still together in secret? (Based on your theory).
If that's the case, it's just weird to me that it lasts for such a long time and they involved their friends and families for this, and moreover the families of their partners. And these are not only photos, videos, pap walks, but also visiting events and everything like that. I remember that you once said that the point of all this is to play to the last, but is their desire to prove something so huge that they are ready to sacrifice everything for it? I just... I don't know, it's like I don't quite see it. And I get that all this can be easily staged, but again, are they ready to go that far? And for what?
Iâm just genuinely curious about your thoughts on this topic since you really did your research and, Iâm sure, during it noticed much more than others.
Hi anon! My thoughts on what is currently going on with Taylor and Matty are controversial, to say the least. So, let me use a cutâŚ
Ah, that's better! Before I answer, allow me to throw out a few disclaimers:
I mean no disrespect to Taylor, Matty, or anyone in their lives. I have an immeasurable amount of admiration for both of them, as artists and as people. Regardless of which direction their love lives go in, I will remain a fan. I have no entitlement, no expectation, and no ill will towards anyone they are perceived to be dating, both past and present. But I love a good story and solving a good mystery, so here I am.
That said, I do believe that Taylor and Matty are engaging in "kayfabe" which is defined as:
"the fact or convention of presenting staged performances as genuine or authentic"
I would like to clarify that it's not done as a "game". I believe they're using it for self-preservation and as a means to protect both their privacy and sanity in the face of what is a really very unfortunate consequence of their job description as confessional songwriters: celebrity (and thus, tabloid and gossip culture).
Since he was a kid, Matty has been disillusioned by his mother's fame in particular, recounting stories about how he'd see tabloids just straight-up lying about his mother for profit, saying things he knew damned well weren't true because he actually lived with her day to day. Taylor, too, has made many disparaging comments about tabloid culture, here's a quote I love:
"The reason most of the things in the media that are written about me aren't true is because none of my real friends would ever talk to the press."
Anon, also please understand that paparazzi photos are not candid, most celebrities call them to be photographed to remain a relevant topic of conversation. Social media, too, has long since turned into a curated form of self-marketing.
So, would their friends and family help them? Absolutely! Especially since for most, all it involves is just⌠keeping quiet. Not talking to the press. Others are likely happy to help out in performative ways, such as their parents - Denise, who dealt with all the same invasions of privacy, and Scott, who had always seemed to have a hand in controlling Taylor's public narrative.
But why would anyone pretend to be their partners? Anon⌠have you not noticed the opportunities just pouring into their laps? A hosting gig, various modelling gigs, an incredible amount of clout for both of them. The sheer amount of merch Taylor wears is⌠suspicious.
Why is it taking so long? Well...
"People often greatly underestimate how much I will inconvenience myself to prove a point."
I've said this several times now, but Taylor is a storyteller. Her favorite stories are ones with moral lessons. She's teaching one right now. And if people are following the clues in TTPD, they'll realize the album reflects an earlier time in Taylor's life.
Lastly, I believe their Love Story (or "Story of Us" if you prefer) is wrapped up in Eras and the re-releases (especially the vault tracks). TTPD is just another chapter, not the conclusion. The backstory will progress when Reputation is released (or if the stars align and we get music from Matty before that⌠clownin' hard for June 1st!)
So, in summation, here's what I think is happening:
1) Indulge in "kayfabe" to protect privacy and sanity at all costs 2) Develop a healthy relationship in secret, away from public scrutiny 3) Take care of those who help them along the way (opportunities) 4) Dismantle pre-established fan lore 5) Break the media's favorite toy (her love life) 6) Reset boundaries and fan entitlement/expectation 7) Make fools of the media when the time comes 8) Tell their love story on their own terms 9) Emerge as the ultimate, untouchable power couple
Trust me, I get it, I'm probably wrong and "delusional" and blah blah blah - except, I've been right a few times now by just following the storytelling techniques I see at play, so I'm gonna go ahead and keep on clownin'! Thanks for the ask! đ¤
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Hello! I've been reading Sink or Swim, and I am absolutely enthralled in the depth of your writing. Which brings me to my first of several questions... How long have you been writing? I find Pietro's backstory personality very complex. How he presents himself... Handles obstacles... It's intriguing. How long did it take to create Pietro's... well... life? Did you have to do a considerable amount of research? And for my last question, how long does it take you to caption a scene? Are you editing the dialogue right until you post?
HELLO~!
First off thank you for this message! I'm very happy you're enjoying the story!
In regard to your first question: I began writing at a young age. So young, that my earliest memory of writing is sitting on my grandmother's lap and telling her exactly what to write down in Microsoft Word. (I figure these were probably stories about Simba the Lion) Eventually, I told her I wanted to figure out how to use Word on my own and the rest is history. But yeah, I've always been big on writing and reading, there was always a story of some kind in my head. By the time I was ten, I was on FF.Net posting very shitty fanfics. But that's the thing about writing, you know? The more you do it, the more you read, the more you even do something like observe films and shows for the narrative value rather than strictly looking at it as entertainment the better of a writer you become. I also made the decision back in high school to become a journalist (something I don't think I want to be anymore, but I digress) still, having the responsibility of writing about real events, or about real people, definitely influenced my writing, as well. Especially when it comes to the way people speak or may explain something.
Admittedly, writing a story in the mafia genre isn't easy. A lot of research is involved (ranging from reading biographies to just watching films, but I also love the video game Mafia because their worldbuilding is pretty goodđ) and I often take mental notes of things so I can understand/apply similar topics with my characters.
In regard to your second question: We've hardly scratched the surface of who Pietro is as a person! I planned to do a few edits of him as a kid as well as a "mini-story" of how he ran away from home at sixteen but I haven't gotten around to it yet.
Pietro is a very new oc - he was made this year, so understanding him/developing him has been a push-and-pull process. Before Sink or Swim started, he was originally meant to be way more antagonistic, but then I found myself liking him. I thought of Pietro and Rosie hooking up and the drama that could entail of, but then I thought, "what if this guy cared about her?" And boom, I found myself jotting out a bunch of outlines and concepts.
However, because Pietro isn't born in America...er, Simerica, I've found myself reading about Sicily a lot. Since I view that as the real-world counterpart to Tartosa. The norms, the lives of farmers, the way organized crime functions there because Pietro's family suffered greatly due to the local mob. But that's all I'm saying about that!
In regard to your third question: Captioning a scene can take forever. I'm not sure why because all I do is copy-paste pre-written text. But the time it takes to write out a scene can vary depending on its length, relevancy, and tone. Small talk is horrible to write, just plain horrible. Banter is usually quick. But when you have scenes like Rosie reading Pietro's email - that took forever because not only am I writing out Sheila and Pietro having a serious conversation, I had to write out the details of the email. Similarly, in my last post, when Pietro more or less confesses that he's an affiliate of the mob: that conversation took three rewrites before I felt it was good enough to put on caps. The first conversation draft was rough, I kept zoning out. The second was a little easier, but I found myself rearranging the conversation to better flow. And the third edit was the easiest because it was like I was 'smoothing' things over and ensuring the flow was decent. Sometimes though, once I paste dialogue onto a cap I do slightly tweak it to correspond with the expression the sim has. But again, thank you for all these questions! I enjoyed answering them!
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Books of 2022
Not including DNFs.
âThe Authentic William Jamesâ by Stephen Gallagher - a British show cowboy is accused of setting a theater fire that killed a German noble. Sebastian Becker, special investigator for the British Crown, must find the accused so he can be scapegoated before rumors of assassination spark a pan-European war. Along the way, Sebastian finds that the accused manâs daughter has been kidnapped by another, rather more authentic stage cowboy. This book has an awful lot, folks: murder, Theatre, cowboys, turn-of-the-century Hollywood, labor rights, addiction, insane asylums, and more! Fans of âMurder with the Devil and Friendsâ will probably enjoy this one (I did). Recommended.
âThe Amulet of Samarkandâ by Jonathan Stroud (reread) - A young magician in the heart of the British Empire summons a djinni to steal an artifact from the man who humiliated him, and fucks it up worse than any other protagonist Iâve ever read. The story is half told from his perspective, and half told from the perspective of the snarky, self-aggrandizing djinni whom he has enslaved to carry out the theft. Mr. Stroud did not pull his punches with this one, I tell you what. Still, it works infinitely better as part of a trilogy than on its own, maybe more than any other Book One Iâve read. Recommended.
âThe Golemâs Eyeâ by Jonathan Stroud (reread) - MR. STROUD DID NOT PULL HIS PUNCHES WITH THIS ONE, I TELL YOU WHAT. Our young magician from the last book continues fucking things up, but this time while the djinni ruthlessly roasts him for his fashion sense while the two of them try to get to the bottom of a series of mysterious break-ins. We also get to spend some time with our third protagonist, a young woman who has a resilience to magic and is part of a small Resistance, whose goal is to break the stranglehold the magicians have on the government. Boy, if you thought Book 1 was scathingly critical of empires and those who run them, Book 2 doubles down on it hard. Chillingly relevant, despite being written in 2004. Stroud also does a great job writing a protagonist who exhibits the very real disease of being 14. Recommended. (Bonus points for correctly attributing golems to Jewish tradition!)
âPtolemyâs Gateâ by Jonathan Stroud (reread) - MR. STROUD DID NOT COME TO FUCK AROUND, GODDAMN. The thrilling conclusion to the Bartimaeus trilogy, and it really delivers on every front. No setup goes without payoff. Honestly, it feels like these 3 books are really just one very long book, because details from Book 1 and Book 2 come back with real significance, little fanfare, and a hell of a lot of momentum. I really fucking love this series, and this book drives home why. Recommended.
âHow to be an Antiracistâ by Ibram X. Kendi - Dr. Kendi defines racism, antiracism, and many related terms and intersections, goes through the origins and history of racism as well as his own journey from being raised in a racist world to choosing to be antiracist. A greatly clarifying and galvanizing read, at least for me. Dense at times, but well worth slowing down for. Recommended.
âGrandmaster of Demonic Cultivation: Vol 2â by MXTX - Things get much worse but also much gayer for our fast-talking protagonist - although really the vast majority of this book is about side-stories that happened many years in the past. The side-stories are really good though, and add to the narrative tension rather than distracting from it. I really do think this series (and probably all MXTX novels) could be used as a masterclass in non-linear storytelling. Recommended.
âKingdom Hearts: Final Mixâ (vol. 1) by Shiro Amano - An abridged version of the story of KH1 told in graphic novel format: kidâs world is swallowed by darkness, he gets separated from his two friends, he somehow acquires a magic key-sword that lets him fight the creatures of darkness, he goes on a quest to find his friends and ends up saving a bunch of Disney worlds along the way. Itâs got some interesting little tidbits and alternate translations (and very, very cute art), so I certainly enjoyed it. Recommended if youâre already a KH fan or if you want to get the basic story without playing several hundred hours of games or watching a few dozen hours of cutscenes.
âHeaven Officialâs Blessing: Vol 2â by MXTX - The plot thickens and things get worse for the protagonist (and isn't that just a summary of all MXTX novels?). I had some trouble with keeping all the names straight in this one because everyone has three names and it's a little trickier when I don't have a face to pin them all to, but it's still a good read. You can feel the plot putting on weight like a teenager getting ready for a growth spurt. Plus there's a really fun scene in a gambling den that is simultaneously the most chaste and the dirtiest thing I've ever read in published fiction. Recommended.
âDraculaâ by Bram Stoker (reread, via Dracula Daily) - A fresh methodology on the old classic. I'd forgotten some of the twists and turns since I read this book back in high school, and the "daily" format is something I'd long wanted to engage in (i.e., reading a book that has a set timeline according to that timeline). The community of memes and analyses was a great joy to partake in, too. Recommended, particularly via Dracula Daily (there's always next year!)
"Dreadnought" by April Daniels - A teenage trans girl inherits a superhero mantle that not only gives her superpowers, but the body she's always wanted. This causes a tremendous amount of problems and immediately flings her into a mire of political turmoil while having to navigate high school and an abusive father. This is a book that knows its stuff back to front and remixes it adeptly. Recommended, but with trigger warnings for abuse, transphobia, and some fairly disturbing gore (and that's coming from me).
"Heaven Official's Blessing: Vol 3" by MXTX - The plot thickens, and things get worse for the protagonist. No, I mean really, REALLY worse. But there's also a damn good kiss in there, and plenty of other fun stuff to keep it from being oppressively grim. Recommended.
"Ancillary Justice" by Ann Leckie - A fragment of a ship's AI, confined to a human body, seeks revenge for the murder of her favorite lieutenant. Unfortunately, the person she's seeking vengeance against happens to be the emperor of a massive, millennia-old space empire, whose consciousness occupies a thousand bodies. A sedately paced, intricately built story about love and imperialism and culture and war and music. If you like Robots With Feelings, complex political dramas, or conlangs, this book is for you. Recommended.
"Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation: Vol 3" by MXTX - This one is primarily flashback, although not all the same flashback (have I mentioned the whole "masterclass in nonlinear storytelling" thing yet?) and stitched together in a way that flows naturally and keeps you reading to the very end. Also, a damn good kiss in there (vol 3 seems to be the magic number for that). But also also, some really fucking horrifying gore, to the point that I went: "who looked at this and decided they could make a show that got past the censors?" I mean, they were right, whoever they were, they managed it and "The Untamed" kicked ass, but I have to wonder what kind of person rolled up their sleeves to do it. Recommended.
"The Long Earth" by Stephen Baxter and Terry Pratchett - The course of human history is forever changed when a rogue scientist releases the designs for a device that allows people to step to parallel Earths, all of which seem to be uninhabited. A young man named Joshua, able to step without the aid of a device, is recruited by an artificial intelligence to go on an expedition to find what's at the end of the seemingly infinite stack of Earths. An interesting read with a lot of cool speculation about alternate Earths and some very grounded and unfortunately relevant observations on the nature of humanity. It doesn't read like a Pratchett, although it has some very Pratchett-esque concepts in it. I liked it okay, but not enough to particularly want to read any of the sequels.
"Moving Pictures" by Terry Pratchett (reread) - The wild ideas of Holy Wood are escaping into the Discworld and causing hauntingly familiar scenes to play out in a little spit of desert by the sea - but anywhere where Things That Don't Exist can become Things That Do Exist, there will be Things That Want To Exist trying to come through.... Dryly funny as standard for Pratchett, and probably at least a quarter written just to see how many film references he could upend in one go. Featuring (what I think are) the first appearances of Gaspode The Wonder Dog and Archchancellor Munstrum Ridcully. Recommended.
"Fadeout" by Joseph Hanson - Dave Brandstetter, an insurance investigator who is "contentedly gay," investigates the mysterious disappearance of a small-town entertainer who hit the big time. Atmospheric, noir-adjacent, and pleasantly twisty, this mystery also benefits from half the cast being queer. It would be excellent if written today, and considering that it was written in the sixties, it's in a league of its own. Recommended.
"Are Prisons Obsolete?" by Angela Davis - A novelette-length essay on the origins, consequences, and possible alternatives to the prison-industrial complex, as well as a litany of reasons why it's imperative for the health of our society that the carceral state be dismantled. Thought-provoking and perspective-shifting in many ways. Recommended.
"Station Eternity" by Mur Lafferty - Mallory Viridian seems to constantly be followed by murders - and constantly finds herself solving them, too. She thought escaping Earth to a sentient space station would free her from her 'curse,' but, whoops, it doesn't. Featuring multiple sentient alien species, military interferism plots, eighty percent of a romance, and several murder cases across space and time, this felt like a book trying to do too many things at once, each interfering with the execution of the others. The detective story got lost in the space station story, and the space station story suffered from having to serve a detective story. The dialogue and the plot both clunked audibly at times, although the third act featured a clever twist and a fairly satisfying finale. The book wasn't so grating that I gave up on it, but I was glad to be done with it.
"Iron Widow" by Xiran Jay Zhao - A young woman living in a world thatâs a milieu of ancient and modern China seeks vengeance against the celebrity kaiju pilot who killed her sister. And then seeks vengeance against the system which allowed said sister to be killed. And then decides: "since this system is fucking over everyone and everything I care about, how about I fuck it right back?" It's like Pacific Rim meets Handmaid's Tale meets real Chinese history, and thatâs not even getting into the nuanced and incisive meditations on gender and sexuality. Recommended, but with content warnings for body horror, familial abuse, heavily implied sexual assault, and hardcore misogyny.
#books of 2022#my goal was to read more books this year than last year#and i managed it (just barely)#otoh my reviews got MUCH longer this year lmao
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Which GreedFall companion has the most fics on Ao3? - A quick analysis and why I think so
So, there are five companions in Greedfall. I'm just looking at the number of fics they're tagged in, not how many they're major characters in. Here's me and my twin's predictions for the order.
#1. Kurt (most)
We both agreed on this one. He's the first person you meet, and relevant to the story even when he isn't physically present. Plus, the straight girls and gay guys of the internet seem to think he's pretty damn hot.
#2. Vasco (me) | SĂora (my twin)
The characters people are attracted to seems to greatly affect the number of fics written, and a lot of people seem to think Vasco's damn hot. (Which, I mean, I'm gay but I can see where they're coming from)
SĂora is your connection to the natives, who are super important to the story of GreedFall. Also, she's one of the three most important companions in the game itself.
#3. SĂora (me) | Vasco (my twin)
Like my twin said, SĂora's your connection to the natives. Plus, she's quite endearing with her interest in foreign cultures. Also I'm gay and I love her.
My twin kinda agreed with me on the whole people-find-Vasco-hot thing. Also, he's one of the three most important companions.
#4. Petrus
We agreed on this one again. From what I can tell, the internet seems to be Interested (be it for better or for worse) in his story about knowing de Sardet's mother.
Also there are more Petrus x de Sardet fics than there are de Sardet x Aphra. (Which, y'all, what. the. fuck. That's just gross)
#5. Aphra (least)
This disappoints both of us, because we're both quite fond of her character, but the internet doesn't seem to share the same enthusiasm for her that we both do. She's just interested in science and learning about the natives. Also, she's significantly less racist than the rest of the Bridge Alliance.
And then I searched the tags on Ao3 to see how accurate our predictions were.
And here are the results!
#1. Vasco (376 fics)
This surprised both of us. Although, to be fair, people do seem to love writing de Sardet x Vasco.
#2. Kurt (359 fics)
This didn't really surprise me or my twin, given that he's such an important character.
#3. SĂora (174 fics)
This also didn't surprise us. She's important and very pretty.
#4. Petrus (124 fics)
Disappointing but not surprising.
#5. Aphra (97 fics)
Just as disappointing and just as not surprising.
All in all, the only thing that really surprised me was that Vasco beat Kurt. The rest of it lined up with my expectations.
#GreedFall#Ao3#kurt greedfall#vasco greedfall#sĂora greedfall#petrus greedfall#aphra greedfall#Arty_Girl's_Talks
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Question 30 through 49 about spinaltap :0
I'm assuming you meant to 39, since there's only 43 questions. But i'll just do 30 to 43! [cracks knuckles]
30) Who do they most regret meeting?Â
Without spoiling Prima Materia? He tends to regret meeting people like Rokkan, who remind him upon first impressions that his whole kingdom/family was assimilated by the Horde then imprisoned in the center of the planet, and that the entire planet now either hates them or refuses to think they even exist. Not cool, Council of Elders. Semi-Spoiling Prima Materia? Hordak. But how he meets Hordak... you will have to see!
31) Who are they the most glad to have met?Â
Easy answer is Skeletor. But honestly I think he is glad to of met............ Orko. Because Orko paints a much nicer image of Spinal Tap to He-Man/Adam than Eternos (through the Council of Elders) tries convincing him of. This helps greatly for the fallout of my second answer to 30.
32)Â Do they have a go-to story in conversation? Or a joke?Â
Not really? He will, however, tell you everything he's learned about something if its relevant to the conversation. He especially loves talking about the alchemic uses of plants.
 33) Could they be considered lazy?Â
...Yes. He's a mix of his own type of lazy and spoiled royalty. He knew how to neaten up his surroundings but he had no idea how to do laundry until he was shown by one of the Evil Warriors. Spinal Tap does cherish his leisure time though, and will throttle through his workday to get to doing what he wants. He usually starts at 7am and will have all his work done for the day by noon circumstances permitting (which is impressive given the Evil Warriors, even Skeletor, usually take the whole day to do stuff). Then he'll go and check on the greenhouse before going back home or stay in his lab to laze around or do stuff he likes until Skeletor gets back.
34)Â How hard is it for them to shake a sense of guilt?Â
Spinal Tap doesn't really handle negative emotions well. So if something makes him feel guilty it will probably ruin the next couple days for him. He won't talk to others and just kind of play his thoughts over and over again dissecting everything he thinks he did wrong to lead to the thing that made him feel upset/guilty. Thankfully Spinal Tap gets better at handling his feelings, but at the beginning of Prima Materia he will fall into that pretty easy.
35) How do they treat the things their friends come to them excited about? Are they supportive?Â
Very supportive. He has a very strong thirst for knowledge, and combined with his curiosity towards the entire new realm to him that is The Surface, he'll listen intently. Though you have to preface with "you can't write this down" if you don't want it written down in his journal, since he likes to transcribe new information to maybe look into further later.
(36 was answered already)
37) Do they have a system for remembering names, long lists of numbers, things that need to go in a certain order (like anagrams, putting things to melodies, etc)?Â
Journaling. Spinal Tap carries a pocket one around with him at all times. Those journals will mostly be streams of thought, then once they're full he will go through it and transcribe anything important into other (categorized) journals. He also has a pretty vivid memory (not photographic but still sharp), and to him accessing his memory for remembering stuff is like going through a big filing cabinet.
38) What memory do they revisit the most often?Â
He thinks about the day of his graduation, which was the day he became the Panancean, a lot... :(
39) How easy is it for them to ignore flaws in other people?Â
He's not a very judgemental person, one really can't be when you're the proxy to the God of Life. Everything and everyone has flaws, including the Panancean. There are exceptions, of course.
40) How sensitive are they to their own flaws?
In irony, however, Spinal Tap is pretty harsh on himself. Like the mantle of Skeletor is to Keldor, the mantle of Panacean to Spinal Tap is a heavy one. Upholding this status can lead to him being a bit neurotic about his abilities. An example is in String Lights Over Dark Hemispheres, where he gets upset when his magic can't immediately lift a curse (Due to his distance from the Starseed perhaps? Or is there something more?). He does not want to be seen as weak or a bad Panacean, so he'll beat himself up about it. Loop back to the answer for #34.
41) How do they feel about children?Â
He helped look after his younger siblings (13 when his sister Lellesebub was born, 27 when his brother Azazel and sister Azaelea were born) somewhat, so he's not completely ignorant to how to act around children. As i've said a few times, he's a bit awkward sometimes, and kids can be, well, kids. But he'll do his best to be a good example around them. He never exactly saw himself as becoming a father, however. Surprisingly, Skeletor was the one who asked him about having children. He doesn't regret at all having Malkyn, and he really does cherish that kid.
42) How badly do they want to reach their end goal?Â
His end goal is lifting the Great Seal around Coreternia, so he can see his family again, and prevent Hordak from getting powerful enough to kill Skeletor by flipping the kill switch on Skeletor's skull-head curse. So uh, very very badly.
43) If someone asked them to explain their sexuality, how would they do so?Â
"I enjoy the companionship of men. Especially of those who partake in more magical endeavors" How would I personally describe it? Well:
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Do you think ONEs writing has evolved over time? If so, can you provide some examples?
Evolved in what way? (Please give me the example directions you're thinking of!) Otherwise we'd probably need more webcomic chapters to gauge what's directly from him without it being a collaborative project with other artists/writers involved. (Where if we look at the wc by itself, ONE's art has greatly improved and it seems he's been inspired by Murata's art/action scenes to illustrate them more thoroughly in his own fighting scenes.)
Otherwise it's inconclusive to say for sure, but there is a vibe he (or they) may be inspired by the current edgy/grimdark trend from other popular action mangas (aot, jjk, csm) that tend to fridge/kill off their main casts for shock value. Because there's a way to do it to increase tension and peril....and then a bad way to do it (with tonal whiplash) where it just alienates his established audience who're invested in those beloved characters. I'm also not much a fan of him resorting to write characters to fit certain tropes played straight lately, rather than doing it the other way around - because one way is a natural evolution of his characters reacting as they should (which is how he used to do it), but the other way, by prioritizing quickly executing the trope over keeping character integrity first, comes off cheap and contrived. (Bc the tropes ONE pulled during all the cosmic stuff are some of the same concurrent ones Hori's been using in his story - but since his is the natural sandbox for this, imo Hori has more thoroughly set up and executed them better. Ex: the big bad has brainwashed a trauma victim - who also needs to be saved, as his vessel to specifically kill the mc's most closest person to hurt them - exactly the same tropes, except Hori has written entire arcs to build the set up for it....and he won't use time travel to easily 'undo' it all either.) There's also the tendency for ONE to soften many characters (like Tatsumaki) and handhold his messages far more blatantly for a general audience (along with some messy inconsistencies to align the manga back to where the wc is, when they shouldn't need to as they no longer fit together as different continuities), but this is still mostly manga stuff.
Anyway I say all this because I greatly prefer when ONE keeps to his own strengths, rather than try to draw inspiration(?) from the trend of what's 'popular' elsewhere - bc he's already earned his writing popularity for being himself, and doesn't need to copy what everybody else is currently doing to make his work (aka the opm manga) stay 'relevant.' So yes, to see how ONE currently writes by himself, and how much he's 'evolved' on his own, we'd need to see some new opm webcomic chapters!
#opm#ONE pls#anonymous#replies#so i have many Thoughts but to be sure i think we could use some more wc updates
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The Secret of the Success of Denny Ja's Elected Work 35: Expressing the meaning behind the bomb, I call your name in silence
In 2021, Denny JA, a well -known writer in Indonesia, managed to achieve success with his latest work entitled Apart from Bombs, I called your name in silence. This work was chosen as one of the 35th best works. In this article, we will reveal the secret of the success of this work and try to understand the meaning contained therein. 1. Introduction As one of the leading writers in Indonesia, Denny JA has produced many works that are recognized and loved by readers. Apart from the bomb, I called your name in silence was his latest work that managed to steal the public's attention. We will explore the secrets of the success of his work and explore the hidden meaning in it. 2. Know Denny JA Denny JA is a writer, social scientist, and activist who has contributed greatly to the world of Indonesian literature and politics. He has written many fiction and nonfiction works that raise social and political issues. His work often reflects the lives of Indonesian people and questioning the existing political conditions. 3. Denny JA's elected work 35 Apart from the bomb, I called your name in silence was chosen as one of Denny Ja's 35th best work. This work succeeded in winning the heart of the reader with a strong writing style and a story that moved emotions. In this work, Denny JA succeeded in describing the lives of Indonesian people with all its complexity. 4. The Secret of Success of the Work There are several factors that might be the secret of successful work from the bomb, I call your name in silence. First, Denny JA has extraordinary writing skills. He is able to combine beautiful language with a strong narrative, so that it can attract readers from the beginning to the end of the story. Another factor is the theme raised in this work. Apart from the bomb, I called your name in silence in raising social and political issues that were relevant to the current conditions of Indonesian society. Denny JA is able to describe the problem with a unique perspective and lure the reader's mind. 5. The meaning behind the work Behind an interesting story, escape from the bomb, I call your name in silence also contains a deep meaning. This work invites the reader to reflect on the existing political conditions and question the role of each individual in creating positive changes. Denny Ja wants to convey the message that every individual has the power to change the world. 6. Conclusion The success of the 35th selected work of Denny JA, is free from the bomb, I call your name in silence, not separated from his extraordinary writing skills and themes that are relevant to the conditions of Indonesian society. This work presents a deep meaning and invites the reader to reflect on their respective roles in creating positive changes. Denny JA has made a great achievement with his work who managed to steal the public's attention. His work is not just mere entertainment, but also contains deep messages. Apart from the bomb, I call your name in silence is one of the best examples of his best work that is able to explore social politics with a unique writing style. Hopefully Denny JA's work can also inspire many people and create good changes in society.
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Revealing the secret of the success of the 42nd selected essay poetry
Jakarta, Indonesia The success of an essay poetry writer is the dream of every writer in Indonesia. However, not all writers are able to achieve the level of success possessed by Denny JA, a famous writer in the country. In his selected essay poetry, the giant collapsed, Denny JA managed to steal the reader's attention with interesting and evocative stories. This essay poem has become a hot topic in Indonesian society. Then, what is the secret behind the success of this essay poem? One important factor in the success of this essay poetry is Denny JA's writing style which is very interesting. The language style that is straightforward and easy to understand makes this essay poetry can be enjoyed by various groups of readers, from experienced to beginners. This allows this essay poem to gain great popularity in the Indonesian essay poetry market. In addition, the theme raised in this essay poem is also very relevant to social and political conditions in Indonesia. Denny JA succeeded in describing the daily life of the community smartly, and criticized the various problems in it. This makes the readers feel connected to the story and inspire them to think more deeply about the issuance raised in this essay poem. Denny Ja is also good at building strong characteristics in his essay poetry. Every character in the giant collapsed also has a unique and interesting personality, making the reader emotionally connected with them. In this way, Denny JA is able to create an emotional bond between the reader and the story that is built, so that the reader can feel the emotional journey faced by each character. Not only that, an intelligent marketing strategy also plays a role in the success of this essay poem. Denny JA uses social media and online platforms to promote his essay poetry well. He interacts with the reader through social media, provides an interesting story footage, and conducts an interesting giveaway and contest to attract their attention. This helps increase the awareness and interest of the reader towards his essay poetry, as well as creating a positive buzz in the community. Apart from the writing, theme, and marketing, Denny JA also has a high dedication and commitment to his work. He spent enough time and energy to do research and compile his essay poetry carefully. Denny JA also continues to renew his knowledge in the world of literature and written art, so that his work is always fresh and innovative. It is undeniable, the appreciation and appreciation received by Denny JA also contributed greatly to the success of his essay poetry. The award given to the giant collapsed also made him increasingly known by the public and attracted the more broader readers. With his reputation that has been formed as a great writer, Denny JA managed to build a loyal fan base and contribute to the sale of his essay poetry. So, it can be concluded that the success of the giant essay poetry collapsed by Denny JA begins with an interesting writing style, relevant themes, strong characters, and intelligent marketing strategies. Do not forget, the dedication and commitment of the author is also an important factor in achieving this success. All of this inspired writers in Indonesia to continue to hone their abilities and pursue their dreams of writing successful essay poetry.
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Wake up bestie its lore time. So, i was wondering what about all those stones in marikaâs chambers, taking a look around i could see there was also scripts in the ground, like if someone had been writting/reading in there and just left them cause they were unimportant, after all its paper, unlike the other ones stored in the room.
i also took notice on how the writing is very clear, very runic-like, and i was curious if it was the common spoken language in the lands between, turns out, it is but only half way through it. Â I visited the alexandria library of elden ring aka. the Carian Study Hall to check on the book pages, the writting is different, much more composed and the kind of pen used its different too, that only besides the wider parts of the paragraphs.
Next parade was Stormveil and the Raya Lucaria Academy, the writting was similar to the one found in Liurnia -Carian Study Hall-
Which made me think, maybe the language Marika was using, either for reading/writting, is different to other known languages, i checked the BlackKnife blade print, since Black Knife assasins are also Numen kind, and the runes inscripted in the blades are indeed, similar to Marikaâs writting.
BUT, as soon as i got to check the notes the merchant nomades sell you, and the official monuments to commemorate certain events, are also written in the rune kind of alphabet.
This may indicate that after Marikaâs conquest, she either learned the language of Leyndell, or she stablished her mother tongue as the ruling one, which is most likely cause the whole ER story is just religious colonialism. SO NOW TO THE POINT, why does Marika has so many stones in her bedroom, i took a closer look at them and they are written in a different language, more refined on the edges as if they were more polished, like writting normally to then writte italics.
So since Marika and the Numen kind are clearly Roman/Old Greek oriented, i took a look at the ancient alphabets. This is how Greek âcancillerescoâ (sorry i dont know the english word) looks like on paper.
And this is ancient greek from athens looked like written roughÂ
Obviously is very different, but, why would the Queen make âdraftsâ of the writtings in common letters before turning them to italics on stone? WELL, HOLD UR PANTS DARLING, in ancient greece, at some point the laws were only chantered by voice, which greatly benefits the aristocracy ofc, however, this changed with the arrival of Draco, the very first lawgiver, known to have written the most brutal laws that the ancient greece ever got to see, he was the first one that firstly wrote his laws on wood, as âdraftsâ and then, he did on stones, the image above is a part of them. They were known as the âDraconian LawsâÂ
These laws where known for being specially cruel and ruthless, very extreme, some examples were that minor crimes like stealing bread, meant death, or -this part specially relevant in ER- if someone was in debt, they person they owned had the right to take them as slaves (heavy coughs , trolls, bla bla bla you know you know). /EDIT took away albinaurics, @dankesdarkmanâ corrected me about their position and they dont fall under the category of slaves. So, IN CONCLUSION, i wouldnât be surprised that the table stones we found in Marikaâs chambers are her laws, the equivalent of Draconian laws written in blood for how cruel they were. Its a really pretty comparison taking on point a good chunk of Marikaâs character is old greek/roman oriented, the very architecture of Leyndell speaks by itself. That was todayâs ted talk tyvm, Marikaâs stones are the equivalent of âlaws written in bloodâ Gn gamers.
#elden ring#text#its theory time baby#im just a girl that likes texts and pens and writting and languages leave me alone#in conclusion its queen marika ao3 collection#her entire enemies to lovers archive ikr
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Warning: Rant, character bashing, lots of opinions
I'm saying it outright. I hate Deku. He is entirely underwhelming as a character, much less as the main character, the shonen protagonist of the series.
It's a 'different' type of dislike, though. I feel like I could've like his character. There's nothing greatly disagreeable about him, he's as inoffensive as can be, he's an optimistic, considerate, and polite boy, he's as plain as he is said to be, and that's fine.
My issue is that he's not the character he's said to be. I, personally, just don't buy that he "possesses a drive to save others that eclipses all common understanding", or that he's super intelligent with great analytical abilities that he actually applies on the battlefield, or, in general, he's as amazing or heroic or compassionate as he's apparently supposed to be. How can he be inspiring if he barely challenges any aspects of the society he lives in. Deku is a super good example of the terrible use of "Tell, Don't Show". We're told about his amazing traits, but he rarely follows through; when we do see hints of it, it's lauded but frankly I think it's typical behavior and (this though is not quite his fault) written so stiffly and awkwardly I'm not convinced.
(Honestly I might even call him a Canon Mary Sue. He has no interesting or distinguishable flaws, unless having a shit for brains attitude is one but that's not acknowledged by the narrative. Breaking bones is not a personality trait. If he has a Hero Complex, it's not even the interesting ones where he fucks things up even more; or carries crippling guilt about circumstances beyond his control; or focuses completely on saving people to the point of rejecting almost all human connections and keeping deadly secrets - which is All Might's big flaw.) (Well fair, he does this in the most recent chapter but did it need to take 300+ chapters? Plus I sense the way it's framed is that it's the radical, but right course of action.)
Say what you want about Villains and redemption/shouldn't be redeemed/too evil to be saved/justice/etc, but I think this 'Incredible Drive To Save' should've included Villains from the start. Why does Deku want to "Save people with a smile on his face"? Assuming it's empathy, he should have felt some towards everyone he encounters, whether it's sensible or not. "Why are you so angry?", "You shouldn't go about things this way", "What caused them to be like this?", "Why is there evil in the world?" even. I'm still fuming over his Mall Encounter with Shigaraki, where Shigaraki pretty much reveals his damage: "All Might acts like there's no one he can't save"; but ultimately Deku goes "Wow, that sure is an opinion."
What kind of inane response is this??? There's little pushback from the narrative either, so this isn't pointed out as a failing of his (because, again, he has no big flaws). And he's supposed to be smart and caring. Yes, he does ask All Might right after the Mall Encounter, "Was there anyone you can't save?"; but essentially the replies he gets is "Don't worry about it" and Deku immediately largely puts it out of his mind "Oh whew, I was about to do some introspection and reflection". There isn't even the daunting, kinda-existential anxiety that people get when they realize it's impossible to save/help everyone - which is something, like, medical workers have to learn to deal with - that sharp sense of the inevitably of death, of loss, failure, guilt. I'm not asking for him to come to the conclusion that everyone should be saved - he could've decided nah, Shigaraki is too ugly to be saved and I would've been fine with that, it's part of the character role and potential development - just that he should've had a conclusion at all.
There are the latest chapters where Deku decides he wants to try saving Shigaraki first (though killing him is still on the table), true. Him wanting to save Shigaraki after seeing AFO merged with him, after seeing The Crying Child - but see, I don't think it qualifies because I think it's the bare minimum about of consideration, the typical response to seeing the body horror of warped, fused flesh, to seeing a small sad little boy. I think it shouldn't require "You look like you needed saving" for a true Hero to consider saving someone. Not for someone who is supposed to be unique and special in this regard.
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I've complained about this before, but the trouble with Deku was evident from the very beginning.
Again, Deku wants to save people with a smile on his face, and again, Iâm assuming itâs empathy. We're shown this on the very first page, as he attempts to protect a friend(?) from bullies, but imo like it felt groundless because who was the kid he was protecting? We never see him again. Did Deku's standing up to Bakugou work, and the kid was saved? Or did they both got beaten up; but afterwards, being the kind boy Deku is supposed to be, he still gets to his feet to help the boy, to apologize for failing.
But more significantly, this theme of saving was overshadowed immediately by his focus on superpowers - that he was quirkless. Next page, his focus was on âWoah, giant villain and superpowers!â Instead of like. Helping people. (Though I chalk this up to early installment weirdness)
What shouldâve happened if the theme was âSAVE PEOPLEâ Is something like: The opening sentence being âPeople are not born equal. This is the harsh truth I learned when I was four. I knew that... but despite my powerless, I still wanted to help. That was my first and last setback.â And the panels/images themselves (of little Katsuki and his friends) implies that people on the world thinks you need power to help people.
When he saw the villain attack on way to school, Deku can be wowâed by the spectacle! But then he notices a kid crying and offers to help find his mom. He can be interrupted by a Hero saying he (the hero) will take over, he can find the mom and realize heâs late for school (and so that shows heâs willing to sacrifice something of his to help others! Because of his altruistic nature!). A scene like that, of him helping the lost kid, we would know that he wants to help *anyone*. At school, though, he still gets bullied for not having powers. So heâs mulling over that when he meets All Might, and asks the question.
It proceeds as usual for the next few events: When the sludge monster attacks Katsuki, he can still go gawk at the scene. He can still hesitate. In canon, it's only when he realized the victim was his friend that he jumps into action, which I thinks undermines the theme of 'wanting to save indiscriminately'. IMO, it would've been better that Deku sees itâs his friend, but he still hesitates. âThereâs nothing I can do right? All Might himself said so...â But when he sees Katsukiâs *face* of fear, he runs to help. Instead of seeming like he helps only because he realizes itâs his friend, he helps because he feels too deeply about trying to save Katsuki.
Admittedly these are minor, personal critiques; but all in all, the first chapter fails to establish Deku is the willpowered, champion of wanting to save people he's supposed to be.
--Which is fine, if it's acknowledged in the story later, that maybe he wasn't the True Blue Hero he's supposed to be at first, but he can change and still become one. But it's not - Deku is apparently special, without anything special to show for it.
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I read the one-shot "My Hero" - the prototype for this series - that Horikoshi published years ago, before My Hero Academia was created. I also found it underwhelming, but that was due to personal tastes (I wanted more explosions and dumb violence); as a story on it's own merit, the logic and progression was solid.
The Villains Heroes fought were 'Aberrations' - true inhuman monsters that showed no sentience that would eat people - so the focus could be solely on saving humans. The main character - Jack Midoriya - his original goal was less 'save people' and more 'become a cool hero', before learning that saving people is what true heroism is about, hero license unneeded. (Moreover, he really did 'save' someone without being a hero - by working hard, he was preventing the company from becoming ruined completely, which the CEO had confessed and thanked him for. )
This version of Midoriya didn't exactly needed deep empathy or compassion for that, just a strong willpower, which he effectively demonstrated by chasing after a childhood dream even as an adult salaryman in a tanking company, even though he had anemia and no training and no license. He insisted on this, to the point of getting hurt by being dumb, of being petty over someone dissing the Hero who inspired him in the first place, of skipping out of work and going vigilante. Not the most upstanding guy, but he came through in the relevant themes of the story, in being the character the story needed him to be.
Jack Midoriya was an unimpressive, weird-looking, weak, pitiful, somewhat selfish, awkward salaryman with no great aspects that 'eclipses all common understanding'. But he was a far stronger character than his incarnation Izuku Midoriya could ever be (so far).
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The Crow's Eye: A Study in Evil
TW: Rape, CSA, Donald Trump, religion
Long time since I last did anything, but Euron has been on my mind a hell of a lot lately, so I decided to write a thing about him. Do be warned, this is the longest thing I've written, and it is very, very long.
There are many villains in A Song of Ice and Fire: Tywin, Cersei, the Mountain, the Others, Roose, Rorge. The most despicable of the lot though would be Joffrey, Ramsay, & Euron. There is something that makes them so hatable yet they have such a large imprint on the story. Despite there being little to almost no grey in any of these three characters, they each have subtle nuances to them that makes them compelling villains.
Joffrey is the deconstruction of the pretty prince. He has his mothers and fathers good looks, yet he is a brutal, psychopathic tyrant. He enjoys hurting and humiliating people, and is an entitled brat. He thinks that everyone will listen to him because he's the king and that's whats to be expected. Yet, we see that he was neglected by Robert and at least some of his intense cruelty was part of trying to impress or follow in Robert's footsteps (who was a famed warrior and often hunted).
In addition, being raised by Cersei, who herself was raised by Tywin who has questionable logic for leadership, couldn't have helped much either. However, Joffrey is simply still a child. An utterly sadistic tyrant, but still a child. He loves to belittle and torment but he is too ineffectual to even fight in battle, and on multiple occasions he is easily shut down by other people (like Tywin, or Cersei, or Tyrion). He was the first real villain of the series. From here on, the villains get intensely more vile and terrifying.
Ramsay himself is not without some nuance. His mother was the wife of a miller, and when they married without Roose's approval, he had the miller hanged and raped his wife. Growing up, Ramsay was with his mother, who had been given certain gifts by Roose on the condition she stay quiet about the rape. Yet as Ramsay grew, he grew wild, all the while his mother and his servant Reek pushed him towards trying to claim his rights, despite his bastard status.
Ramsay greatly resents being a bastard, and you could also look at his insanely cruel actions as him trying to live up to the Bolton name. In addition, Roose is a very cold man, and there is no real warmth between father and son. Ramsay killed Domeric out of jealousy, and Roose shows no affection or care for Ramsay. The upbringing of Joffrey & Ramsay are obviously not excuses for the crimes against humanity they routinely commit, but it provides insight into how they became what they ended up being.
Joffrey was a villain that shows what can happen when spoiled children end up in a position of high authority, and is a threat to those already low down in society. He's essentially a bully but with the power that comes with royalty. Ramsay is a different sort of villain, more akin to a serial killer from psychological horror films. He is clever, a capable trickster, and unrepentant sadist who enjoys torturing and breaking people down so they can serve him as his own personal pets. Yet, like Joffrey, he has a temper that is hard to control, and his inability to control his cruelty is what will eventually do him in.
Enter Euron Greyjoy. While I don't like saying that Joffrey was the first act villain, Ramsay was the second, and Euron is the third, these are three human villains that we feel the most emotions about, due to their impact on the plot and their unbelievable cruelty. Both Ramsay & Euron are villains straight out of horror, but their horror is very different. I will be breaking down Euron's character, his backstory, his intents, his narrative relevance, and his ultimate role in the Song. So, join me on this long, winding adventure into horror, gods, & madness.
The Slow Build Up
To start off, I want to give a scene by scene break down of Euron as he is shown chronologically in the books, to get the sense of the narrative around him. We first hear about Euron in A Clash of Kings, when Theon arrives to Pyke, and makes note of who is and isn't there.
Old men were cautious by nature. His father was old now, and so too his uncle Victarion, who commanded the Iron Fleet. His uncle Euron was a different song, to be sure, but the Silence did not seem to be in port.
At this point, I don't know if GRRM was already planning for Euron to be a super important character to the plot. Instead of having this big complex plan, I think that he had an idea of who Euron was and that he would be important later, but left it ambiguous enough to expand on when needed.
This first mention indicates that wherever Euron was, he was not like his brothers Balon & Victarion, and is notably absent from the rest of his family. You might even call him the black sheep of the family. Still, there are more things about Euron that are mentioned that build him as a potentially imposing figure.
"Euron Croweye has no lack of cunning, though. I've heard men say terrible things of that one." Theon shifted his seat. "My uncle Euron has not been seen in the islands for close on two years. He may be dead." If so, it might be for the best. Lord Balon's eldest brother had never given up the Old Way, even for a day. His Silence, with its black sails and dark red hull, was infamous in every port from Ibben to Asshai, it was said. "He may be dead," Esgred agreed, "and if he lives, why, he has spent so long at sea, he'd be half a stranger here. The ironborn would never seat a stranger in the Seastone Chair."
An outcast, intelligent, and dangerous. Yet, the last words that Asha says here turned out to be woefully wrong. We hear no more mention of Euron until A Storm of Swords, when we learn that Balon has died. The captain of Myraham, which brought Theon to Pyke, returns to let Robb know of the news from there:
The captain bobbed his head. "Aye, but that's not all of it, no!" He leaned forward. "The brother's back." "Victarion?" asked Galbart Glover, surprised. "Euron. Crow's Eye, they call him, as black a pirate as ever raised a sail. He's been gone for years, but Lord Balon was no sooner cold than there he was, sailing into Lordsport in his Silence. Black sails and a red hull, and crewed by mutes. He'd been to Asshai and back, I heard. Wherever he was, though, he's home now, and he marched right into Pyke and sat his arse in the Seastone Chair, and drowned Lord Botley in a cask of seawater when he objected. That was when I ran back to Myraham and slipped anchor, hoping I could get away whilst things were confused. And so I did, and here I am."
Here we get more of an idea of who Euron is. At this point it's pretty clear Euron is being set up to be important. This fearsome man with a sinister reputation appears the day after his brother dies, and when someone objects to him taking the throne, he simply has him drowned. Doesn't sound like a very nice guy.
No more mention is made of him, until A Feast for Crows. When Aeron learns of Balon's death and Euron's return, he begins to get flashbacks to his brother Urri and a rusted hinge screaming, and is deadset against Euron being king, calling a kingsmoot to let the Drowned God decide matters. Even Asha's uncle Rodrik is against going to the kingsmoot, worried that Euron will be Urron Redhand come again, slaying all the captains & kings on Nagga's Hill and establishing himself as the only true King of the Isles.
Victarion also has thoughts about Euron, and hates him tremendously, so much so that he thinks about killing him and the curse of the kinslayer when he arrives at Old Wyk. Only here do we finally see Euron on page.
He looks unchanged, Victarion thought. He looks the same as he did the day he laughed at me and left. Euron was the most comely of Lord Quellon's sons, and three years of exile had not changed that. His hair was still black as a midnight sea, with never a whitecap to be seen, and his face was still smooth and pale beneath his neat dark beard. A black leather patch covered Euron's left eye, but his right was blue as a summer sky.
And immediately Euron starts shit. When Aeron objects to godless men sitting on the Seastone Chair, Euron goes on a long boastful monologue about how he is the godliest man ever to raise sail, that he is more devout than even Aeron, and when Asha asks about his involvement in Balon's death, it nearly breaks out into a fight between Asha and Euron's supporters, only for Victarion to put an end to it.
Afterwards we learn why Euron was away, and why Victarion hates him. Euron impregnated Victarion's salt wife (either via seduction or rape), and ruined Victarion's honour in the eyes of the culture of the ironborn. As a result, Victarion beat his wife to death to retain his honour, and Balon exiled Euron to prevent Victarion from killing him, telling him to never return to Pyke so long as he lived. But now he is back, and when the kingsmoot starts, Aeron hopes that Euron would speak first:
The Crow's Eye was never patient, Aeron Damphair told himself. Mayhaps he will speak first. If so, it would be his undoing. The captains and the kings had come a long way to this feast and would not choose the first dish set before them.
Instead, Euron waits to be the last person to press his claim, and interrupts when he has one of his men blow a massive horn he has in his possession. He then makes a speech that even inspires Aeron:
"My little brother would finish Balon's war, and claim the north. My sweet niece would give us peace and pinecones." His blue lips twisted in a smile. "Asha prefers victory to defeat. Victarion wants a kingdom, not a few scant yards of earth. From me, you shall have both. "Crow's Eye, you call me. Well, who has a keener eye than the crow? After every battle the crows come in their hundreds and their thousands to feast upon the fallen. A crow can espy death from afar. And I say that all of Westeros is dying. Those who follow me will feast until the end of their days. "We are the ironborn, and once we were conquerors. Our writ ran everywhere the sound of the waves was heard. My brother would have you be content with the cold and dismal north, my niece with even less . . . but I shall give you Lannisport. Highgarden. The Arbor. Oldtown. The riverlands and the Reach, the kingswood and the rainwood, Dorne and the marches, the Mountains of the Moon and the Vale of Arryn, Tarth and the Stepstones. I say we take it all! I say, we take Westeros."
Although Asha and her supporters object to what he says next, Euron tells the captains that the horn is a dragon horn, capable of binding dragons to his will, and when he reveals his massive amount of loot, he is elected the new king, much to Aeron's shock. After this, Aeron proclaims he will have the smallfolk rise up to undo Euron's ascension, but he goes missing. Baelor Blacktyde attempts to flee, but Euron has Victarion hunt him down and cuts him into seven pieces. Asha flees back to Deepwood Motte.
Not long after, Euron leaves with the ironborn and takes the Shield Isles, raising four new lords to hold the isles. Yet here he makes a mistake, when he says that they are going to sail east to Meereen and Daenerys. The ironborn do not want to travel a long distance, instead intent on raiding around the Reach. Even Rodrik the Reader calls him out.
"I am the storm, my lord. The first storm, and the last. I have taken the Silence on longer voyages than this, and ones far more hazardous. Have you forgotten? I have sailed the Smoking Sea and seen Valyria." Every man there knew that the Doom still ruled Valyria. The very sea there boiled and smoked, and the land was overrun with demons. It was said that any sailor who so much as glimpsed the fiery mountains of Valyria rising above the waves would soon die a dreadful death, yet the Crow's Eye had been there, and returned. "Have you?" the Reader asked, so softly. Euron's blue smile vanished. "Reader," he said into the quiet, "you would do well to keep your nose in your books."
And for a moment it seems that Euron's hold on the Seastone Chair is not secure. He later has Victarion visit him, and says that he realized that he was moving too quick, forgetting that the ironborn are small minded and not as ambitious as he is. Instead, he sends Victarion to Meereen with the Iron Fleet to bring Daenerys back, with Victarion plotting to take Daenerys as his wife in an act of revenge. This is the last we see and hear of Euron for a long time. Until we reach The Forsaken.
Aeron's thoughts on Euron, up until now, have been rather ambiguous as to whether he was as big of a threat as he thinks he is. His trauma might've been clouding his judgement of Euron as an antichrist type figure. But now the title of his first chapter, The Prophet, begins to make sense. Aeron was right about everything.
Here, we learn that Euron has no interest in being the King of the Iron Islands, in fact he holds disdain for the Old Way and ironborn culture and religion. In fact, his ambitions are far beyond what we initially assumed. He doesn't just want Daenerys and her dragons, he doesn't just want the Iron Throne; he wants to be a god. Now him telling Aeron to kneel to him for blessing makes more sense, as does his speech on being the godliest man ever.
We also get clarification on exactly what Euron did to Aeron. It is not completely explicit, but it's explicit enough that it leaves little room for other options. In fact, what we learn is much worse than we could have imagined.
âIt was me who taught you how to pray, little brother. Have you forgotten? I would visit your bed chamber at night when I had too much to drink. You shared a room with Urrigon high up in the seatower. I could hear you praying from outside the door. I always wondered: Were you praying that I would choose you or that I would pass you by?â
Euron molested Aeron and his brother Urri as children. Yet even that's not the end of the horrific reveals. He tells Aeron that he has killed three brothers; Harlon, Robin, & Balon. A kinslayer thrice over. At this point, we can say that Euron is a monster worse than Joffrey or Ramsay ever were. And as the chapter unfolds, he gets worse and worse and worse. By the end, he has numerous mutilated priests tied onto the prows of ironborn ships (including Aeron on Silence) and sails into the open ocean. Then, he brings forth his own lover, Falia Flowers, pregnant, her tongue cut out, and naked, tying her right next to Aeron as a "gift".
Aeron thinks of him as a demon in human skin. There is no more apt description for the Crow's Eye. Here is the end of what we know. Now let's go all the way back to the beginning, to see how Euron became the way he is, and what he wants.
Ascension of the Crow's Eye
Euron was the second son of Quellon Greyjoy, right after Balon. The timeline is not exact, but from what we know, Euron was always different from the rest of his family. We know that at some point, he killed his half-brothers Harlon & Robin. Both were sick, easy targets, yet Euron killed them out of more than just sadism:
"Do you remember little Robin? Wretched creature. Do you remember that big head of his, how soft it was? All he could do was mewl and shit. He was my second. Harlon was my first. All I had to do was pinch his nose shut. The greyscale had turned his mouth to stone so he could not cry out. But his eyes grew frantic as he died. They begged me. When the life went out of them, I went out and pissed into the sea, waiting for the god to strike me down. None did."
Euron seems to have been curious about the divine early on. According to Balon and later Victarion, no man is more accursed than the kinslayer. Euron strikes me as someone who is very intelligent and curious and wants to know more about the world. Perhaps he had suspicions early on that the gods might be fake, so he tested it by committing the biggest sin in ironborn culture; killing his own brothers. When nothing happened, he took this as proof that the gods do not exist. It freed him from the constraints of ironborn culture, knowing that nothing would happen if he defied the Drowned God.
We also know that he craves power. Child sexual abuse is a form of domination and control, something Euron obviously wants. He abused Aeron and Urri because of the power he got from it. This is seen in multiple instances with his family. Euron abused his two younger brothers, then later impregnated Victarion's wife, bragging about it afterwards. Euron knows his siblings and what makes them tick all too well, so I have no doubts that he intentionally had Victarion's wife impregnated so that he would be forced to kill her because of his strict adherence to ironborn culture.
It's too light to say that Euron is the wildcard of the family. He practically is the most dominant of them all. Even Theon fears him and his eyepatch. Almost all the trauma that his family has gone through is a direct result of his own actions. We will get to more about his utter sadistic tyranny over his family and what that means, but that will come later.
Looking at those quotes from A Clash of Kings about Euron, I think exile for him must've not been much different from his usual activities. He loves reaving, he loves traveling, and he loves dominating over people and seeing other cultures. The only difference being that he did not return to Pyke for three years, longer than was usual for him.
He claims to have gone as far as Ib and Asshai, and even sailed the Smoking Sea and visited the ruins of Valyria, where those who go never return. It's ambiguous as to whether or not we went there. At the least, he's not telling the truth about certain things, and what is and isn't fact is hard to discern from him. What is for certain, is that the exile changed Euron, and led to him being the man he is today. His want for power is not new, but his ways of going about it have changed. Although, again, we cannot fully trust everything he says, Euron claims to have acquired a dragon's egg, and told a Myrish wizard to hatch it. When he grew impatient, he killed the wizard and threw the egg into the sea.
This might've been the first time Euron has tried to use dragons as a means to acquiring more power. Even though it was an egg, and it failed to hatch, he realized that there was more to the world than meets the eye, and there were ways he could become powerful that others simply brushed off or found foolish. I believe that everything changed after Daenerys left Qarth.
"You had not been gone from Qarth a fortnight when Pyat Pree set out with three of his fellow warlocks, to seek for you in Pentos."
Yet, despite this, and despite Daenerys knowing the warlocks never forget a slight, they never came for her again. That's because someone else came for them.
"Shade-of-the-evening, the wine of the warlocks. I came upon a cask of it when I captured a certain galleas out of Qarth, along with some cloves and nutmeg, forty bolts of green silk, and four warlocks who told a curious tale. One presumed to threaten me, so I killed him and fed him to the other three. They refused to eat of their friend's flesh at first, but when they grew hungry enough they had a change of heart. Men are meat."
According to the A World of Ice & Fire app, this what where Euron acquired Dragonbinder, not from Valyria, but the warlocks:
The warlocks under Pyat Pree attempt to pursue and avenge themselves on Daenerys, but their ship is taken by Euron Greyjoy, who seizes their alleged dragon-binding horn from Valyria and takes them as slaves.
We need not wonder what the curious tale the warlocks told was. They had a dragon horn, they left to get revenge on Daenerys, and they know of her dragons, having seen them with their own eyes. But I believe that the real thing that finally made Euron return was the shade of the evening. Shade of the evening is essentially magical LSD, that gives you one hell of a trip, but with the bonus of prophecy and visions to boot. A mind altering drug like this could easily change someones life, as I believe it did with Euron. He acquired secret knowledge, saw things that nobody else knew, and decided that it was time he came home.
Euron himself confesses to killing Balon;
"Oh, and Balon was the third, but you knew that. I could not do the deed myself, but it was my hand that pushed him off the bridge.â
We also see a vision back in A Storm of Swords, from the Ghost of High Heart;
"I dreamt of a man without a face, waiting on a bridge that swayed and swung. On his shoulder perched a drowned crow with seaweed hanging from his wings."
It's all but confirmed that Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon and allow him to return to Pyke. Of note, this has parallels with another ironborn king of history, Harwyn Hardhand.
When Harwyn returned to the Iron Islands, he found his father Qhorwyn dying, and his eldest brother two years dead from greyscale. A second brother still stood between Harwyn and the crown, and his sudden death even as the king was breathing his last remains a matter of dispute to this day. Those present at Prince Harlan's passing all declared his death accidental, the result of a fall from his horse, but of course it would have been worth their lives to suggest otherwise. Beyond the Iron Islands, it was widely assumed that Prince Harwyn was behind his brother's demise. Some claimed he had done the deed himself, others that Prince Harlan had been slain by a Faceless Man of Braavos.
This isn't even near the only parallel Euron has with Harwynd, but those shall come later. Euron immediately claims the Seastone Chair, yet he is confident when Aeron calls for a kingsmoot, that he will prevail. Victarion says he will only do more of what Balon did. Balon's rebellions were meager and full of defeat; he could not go against the Iron Throne himself, and he could not hold the North. Asha calls for peace, to get the lands around Sea Dragon Point under ironborn control, while they ally with the North against the Iron Throne.
Yet ultimately, Euron succeeds in being chosen, for several reasons. Asha suggests to Victarion that if he made her his Hand, she would support his claim to the Seastone Chair. However, Victarion was too full of pride, and Asha was too forward thinking for him, thus dividing their supporters instead of uniting them. But the biggest factor is that Euron simply appealed to the ironborn in a way Victarion & Asha simply didn't.
Victarion's campaign slogan was literally "same as always", which doesn't really inspire confidence, whereas Asha's was "we can simply have peace". Euron's was "make the Iron Islands great again". Euron promised the return to when the ironborn were feared, when they held real power. No more meager raids along the shorelines, no more being in the shadows of the Iron Throne. This time, they will conquer, they will rule, they will be victorious. Added to the fact that Euron is well traveled and has some seriously intense loot (look at Dragonbinder), the Crow's Eye successfully keeps his hold on the Seastone Chair.
In many ways, Euron's ascension is similar to the election of Donald Trump as president of the US in 2016. Trump promised a return to make America great again (literally his slogan), appealing to the lowest common denominator, as well as religious fundamentalists, and the dregs of society that were previously hidden. By appealing to white supremacists, fascists, and evangelical Christians, Trump made them feel seen again and that they were an important to the country, thus solidifying his support base.
Also like Euron, Trump was a wanna dictator who craved power, domination, and whose leadership put the country in political ruin, setting the US back decades in the Supreme Court and other areas of government, and led to thousands of deaths from his own incompetence and desire to "own the libs". Euron's way is undoubtedly going to result in a massive decline for the ironborn while he gets a power high.
Regardless of real life comparisons, Euron as king now allows him the position in society to accomplish his ambitions. Once again, his ambitions are nothing about bringing glory to the ironborn, it's all about bringing him glory. He wants to be a god, he wants to sit the Iron Throne, and he wants to ride a dragon and marry Daenerys. The ironborn are merely a means to an end for him.
The full backstory to Euron paints a picture of someone whose curiosity led to him discovering something that he views as incredibly potent power that he can wield with great effect. If you are for the Old Way, then Euron is by far the man you'd want to chose. Only problem being that he'd let you die if it meant more power for him. Yet despite this, Euron's hold on the ironborn is only growing stronger (as we'll explore later).
The Death of Gods & the Birth of Another
Religion has been a large part of the world of Westeros and Essos, but it comes to the forefront post-A Storm of Swords. Bran learns more about the weirwoods and Davos learns more about the worship of the old gods, the worship of R'hllor is spreading among the smallfolk of the Riverlands, and the High Sparrow gains significant power after the Faith Militant are reformed. In Essos, the high priest of the red temple preaches that Daenerys is Azor Ahai reborn, and there are hints of a religious uprising stirring.
And of course, Euron is also part of this metaphysical plot as well. However, instead of contributing to religion, he is the antithesis to the religious revival of Westeros. An atheist, Euron does not believe the gods exist, setting him apart from nearly all other characters in the series, who either acknowledge the gods or worship them. Not only does he not believe in the gods, he himself wants to become a god. His ego and narcissism rivals even that of Cersei, as it takes the idea of craving power and rulership over others into the metaphysical realm.
What exactly Euron's apotheosis means in the long run is not known, but it might be less literal and more philosophical. One of his most famous quotes illustrates this point very well;
"Who knows more of gods than I? Horse gods and fire gods, gods made of gold with gemstone eyes, gods carved of cedar wood, gods chiseled into mountains, gods of empty air . . . I know them all. I have seen their peoples garland them with flowers, and shed the blood of goats and bulls and children in their names. And I have heard the prayers, in half a hundred tongues. Cure my withered leg, make the maiden love me, grant me a healthy son. Save me, succor me, make me wealthy . . . protect me! Protect me from mine enemies, protect me from the darkness, protect me from the crabs inside my belly, from the horselords, from the slavers, from the sellswords at my door. Protect me from the Silence." He laughed. "Godless? Why, Aeron, I am the godliest man ever to raise sail! You serve one god, Damphair, but I have served ten thousand. From Ib to Asshai, when men see my sails, they pray."
His narcissism runs so deeply that even when people suffer at his hands, it's about him. What he is saying here is that because he makes people pious through fear, he has served the gods, thus making him godly. In fact, he views him as the instigator for Aeron's religious zealotry (in which case he's not entirely wrong);
âIt was me who taught you how to pray, little brother. Have you forgotten? I would visit your bed chamber at night when I had too much to drink. You shared a room with Urrigon high up in the seatower. I could hear you praying from outside the door. I always wondered: Were you praying that I would choose you or that I would pass you by?â Euron pressed the knife to Aeronâs throat. âPray to me. Beg me to end your torment, and I will.â
Yet he is still an atheist. He constantly points out that the gods are powerless and false, especially to Aeron when he's torturing him.
"They pray to trees and golden idols and goat-headed abominations. False gods . . ." "Just so," said Euron, "and for that sin I kill them all. I spill their blood upon the sea and sow their screaming women with my seed. Their little gods cannot stop me, so plainly they are false gods."
"Still praying, priest? Your god has forsaken you.â
The Crowâs Eye pressed the dagger in a little deeper, and Aeron felt blood trickling down his neck. âIf your Drowned God did not smite me for killing three brothers, why should he bestir himself for the fourth? Because you are his priest?â
âThat which is dead cannot die,â said Aeron fiercely. âFor he who has tasted death once need never fear again. He was drowned, but he came forth stronger than before, with steel and fire.â âWill you do the same, brother?â Euron asked. âI think not. I think if I drowned you, youâll stay drowned."
Euron makes people pious out of fear, yet the gods never intervene when he murders and rapes and tortures. In his mind, he has more power than any of the gods.
âThatâs it, priest. Gulp it down. The wine of the warlocks, sweeter than your seawater, with more truth in it than all the gods of earth.â
Euron routinely drinks shade of the evening, so this sentence solidifies his belief that he is more powerful than any god. His use of blood sacrifice and magic also is worthy of note. Thus, his belief is that because he has power and the gods never stop him when he blatantly blasphemes and sins, he himself is the only true god. He makes people pious and he disproves the existence of the gods, all through his own actions.
In fact, we see in The Forsaken how Euron's hold on the ironborn is quickly growing stronger. When he first invades the Reach, he briefly gets ahead of himself by saying they should sail to Meereen, but the ironborn are still not thinking the way he is, and so he decides to instead stay with them reaving. Throughout the chapter he keeps Aeron imprisoned out of everyones view, only moving him at night when nobody would be awake. By the end, however, things have changed greatly. He now openly parades Aeron around and even ties him to the prow of his ship.
And the ironborn are starting to slowly come around to his way of doing things;
âYour curses have no power here, priest,â said Left-Hand Lucas Codd. âThe Crowâs Eye has fed your Drowned God well, and he has grown fat with sacrifice. Words are wind, but blood is power. We have given thousands to the sea, and he has given us victories!â
How quickly they suddenly reject tradition, calling their deity Aeron's Drowned God, and now using blood sacrifice as common practice. Euron in the beginning did not want to be seen as a kinslayer, but now he has Aeron tied to Silence, possibly in a sacrifice, and nobody is objecting. Tradition no longer matters to them, only the result. In a way, Euron has already started a cult among the ironborn following him.
Euron is what happens when someone is a megalomaniac and gets a hold of great magical power. He is a villain straight out of Lovecraftian horror. He doesn't just want the Iron Throne, or Dany's dragons; he wants to be above it all as a god-king. He knows the end is near, and is taking advantage of it.
The Damphair & the Drowned God
On a first read through of A Feast for Crows, when I got to Aeron's first chapter, The Prophet, I found myself having trouble connecting to him. The chapter was great, but religious zealots are not the kind of people I enjoy, and I couldn't really get behind Aeron, due to all the horrible things he said about women and his extremely deontological view of the world. Little did I know that this chapter was merely hiding the absolute madness that awaited in The Forsaken.
When he was younger, Aeron & his brother Urrigon were close. They share a room in the seatower, and played the finger dance, a game where ironborn would throw a throwing axe and try to catch it in midair. They were also both sexually abused by Euron. As the Crow's Eye notes above, Aeron would pray every night before their abuser came to them. Because of the culture of the Iron Islands, Aeron blames himself for his own abuse, viewing himself as weak and full of sin (something that is also experienced by real victims of child sexual abuse).
Nine sons were born from the loins of Quellon Greyjoy, and I was the least of them, as weak and frightened as a girl.
He still has flashbacks to his abuse, involving the scream of a rusted hinge, usually with him waking up screaming Urri's name. He then has to reassure himself that it is only a dream and Euron has not come again. As he got older, he looked up to his eldest brother Balon, but Balon was anything but warm, instead showing him nothing but scorn:
Aeron feasted on goat for a year, and named the longship Golden Storm, though Balon threatened to hang him from her mast when he heard what sort of ram his brother proposed to mount upon her prow.
Urri died when he was only 14, after he lost several fingers that got infected after poor healing by a maester, following the finger dance, something that still haunts Aeron to this day. He participated in the Greyjoy rebellion, reaving with his older brothers, but when his ship sunk in battle, he washed ashore and was held prisoner in Casterly Rock for the rest of the war. Later, Aeron had another near death experience, this time when his ship went down in a storm. When he washed up on the shore, he thought the Drowned God had saved him, and thus he became entirely devoted to the Drowned God as his priest.
Aeron's religious fervor is a result of many traumatic incidences throughout his life. He describes how he has two pillars that hold him up in life;
Aeron Greyjoy had built his life upon two mighty pillars. Those four small words had knocked one down. Only the Drowned God remains to me. May he make me as strong and tireless as the sea. "Tell me the manner of my brother's death."
Because of his extreme devotion to the Drowned God, Aeron is seen as mad even by other ironborn. He is singular in his goals to follow his god and interpreting what he is to do. Because of Euron's extreme abuse of Aeron leaves a massive impression on him, it is at first unclear if Euron is truly as big of a threat as Aeron himself says he is. Yet eventually we learn that Aeron's first chapter was very aptly named; he was right about everything.
A storm was brewing, he could hear it in the waves, and storms brought naught but evil.
He was born a lord's son and died a king, murdered by a jealous god, Aeron thought, and now the storm is coming, a storm such as these isles have never known.
Aeron tugged his beard, and thought. I have seen the storm, and its name is Euron Crow's Eye.
The decks of Euron's ship were painted red, to better hide the blood that soaked them. Victarion. The king must be Victarion, or the storm will slay us all.
Aeron constantly compares Euron to a storm throughout his first chapter, and later on Euron even calls himself the storm, after Rodrik the Reader calls him out on the problems with sailing the entire ironborn to Meereen:
"Where will you find fresh water, food? The first storm will scatter us across half the earth." A smile played across Euron's blue lips. "I am the storm, my lord. The first storm, and the last."
As we see later in The Forsaken, Euron cares not for the ironborn, only himself and his own power. And in classic fashion, Aeron's calls against Euron go nowhere. Even in The Forsaken, when he tells Falia Flowers to leave, she does not listen to his warnings;
âRun. He will hurt you. He will kill you.â She laughed. âSilly, he wonât. Iâm his love, his lady. He gives me gifts, so many gifts. Silks and furs and jewels. Rags and rocks, he calls them.â
And then come the end of the chapter;
He beckoned, and two of his bastard sons dragged the woman forward and bound her to the prow on the other side of the figurehead. Naked as the mouthless maiden, her smooth belly just beginning to swell with the child she was carrying, her cheeks red with tears, she did not struggle as the boys tightened her bonds. Her hair hung down in front of her face, but Aeron knew her all the same. âFalia Flowers,â he called. âHave courage, girl! All this will be over soon, and we will feast together in the Drowned Godâs watery halls.â The girl raised up her head, but made no answer. She has no tongue to answer with, the Damphair knew.
This leads into the existential battle between Euron & Aeron. It only makes sense for Aeron's philosophical and moral enemy is the atheistic and nihilistic Euron Greyjoy.
Euron subjects Aeron to unimaginable psychological torture; demoralizing him, pointing out how the Drowned God has not answered his prayers, taunting him of his abuse, force feeding him shade of the evening, all to get Aeron to do what Euron truly wants him to; to pray to him as his god and make him his priest. Euron may have Aeron tied to the prow of Silence at the end of the chapter, but his actions go to show that his goal isn't to kill him;
âThe bleeding star bespoke the end,â he said to Aeron. âThese are the last days, when the world shall be broken and remade. A new god shall be born from the graves and charnel pits.â Then Euron lifted a great horn to his lips and blew, and dragons and krakens and sphinxes came at his command and bowed before him. âKneel, brother,â the Crowâs Eye commanded. âI am your king, I am your god. Worship me, and I will raise you up to be my priest.â âNever. No godless man may sit the Seastone Chair!â
Euron pressed the knife to Aeronâs throat. âPray to me. Beg me to end your torment, and I will.â
It is now time to come across the religious imagery and symbolism with regards to Euron and Aeron, because they are both full of it. It's rather easy to view Euron as Lucifer, with Aeron taking the role of Jesus Christ. Euron is a highly intelligent man, and every gift he gives comes with a price. As Victarion says, "Euron's gifts are all poison".
Upon winning the kingsmoot, Euron has Erik Ironmaker marry Asha (though it is a proxy marriage as Asha has fled), giving him stewardship of the Iron Islands and naming him the castellan of Pyke. At first it appears like he's simply rewarding Erik to ensure his loyalty. He is, but the truth of the matter is that Euron does not care for the Iron Islands, and couldn't care less what happens there to Erik Ironmaker, who was his rival at the kingsmoot.
After winning the Shield Isles, Euron gives the islands away to four new lords, a great honour. Yet, he allows the ravens announcing the attack of the isles to fly back to Highgarden, knowing that a force will be marshaled and they will be retaken. He says as much to Aeron;
âYour victories are hollow. You cannot hold the Shields.â âWhy should I want to hold them?â His brotherâs smiling eye glittered in the lantern light, blue and bold and full of malice. âThe Shields have served my purpose. I took them with one hand, and gave them away with the other. A great king is open-handed, brother. It is up to the new lords to hold them now. The glory of winning those rocks will be mine forever. When they are lost, the defeat will belong to the four fools who so eagerly accepted my gifts.â
And those four fools were no random picks either. Nute was one of the most loyal followers of Victarion Greyjoy onboard his ship. Andrik the Unsmiling was one of the champions of Lord Dunstan Drumm at the kingsmoot. Maron Volmark supported Victarion and was considered by one of the drowned priests the true heir to the Seastone Chair given House Volmark's relation to House Hoare, who ruled when Aegon conquered Westeros. Finally, Harras Harlaw was a supporter of Asha, and removed him as Rodrik the Readers heir in place of Hotho Harlaw, who supported Victarion.
Then there is Euron sending Victarion to Slaver's Bay, and the gifts he gives him. The dusky woman, calling back to the wife Euron impregnated and Victarion beat, and Dragonbinder, the dragon horn that binds dragons to the owners will via blood sacrifice. Just as Lucifer does, Euron promises great rewards, but they always come back to your face in some way.
Many times, Euron visits Aeron in the bowels of Silence, trying to tempt him to break his faith, to worship him as his god, promising to raise him as his own priest;
âKneel, brother,â the Crowâs Eye commanded. âI am your king, I am your god. Worship me, and I will raise you up to be my priest.â âNever. No godless man may sit the Seastone Chair!â
Euron pressed the knife to Aeronâs throat. âPray to me. Beg me to end your torment, and I will.â
In this manner, Aeron takes the role of Jesus to Euron's Lucifer, when Jesus crossed the Judaean Desert. While Jesus fasted in the 40 days and 40 nights he spent crossing the desert, the devil came several times to tempt him.
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to him, âAll these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.â (Matthew 4:8â9)
Like Jesus, Aeron resists Euron's temptations, holding true to his religious fervor. He believes that the Drowned God is testing him and holds onto his faith. Yet, in an inverse to Christ's crucifixion, Aeron refuses to believe that the Drowned God has forsaken him. According to the Gospel of Matthew, the last words of Jesus were;
âMy God, my God, why have you forsaken me?â (Matthew 27: 46)
Whereas when Euron visits Aeron in the Silence;
âStill praying, priest? Your god has forsaken you.â âYouâre wrong.â
And of course, the very end of The Forsaken has Aeron tied to the prow of Silence, in a style reminiscent of Jesus's crucifixion;
They bound Aeron Damphair tight with strips of leather that would shrink when wet, clad only in his beard and breechclout.
Throughout all his torture, Aeron holds deeply to his religious beliefs, and as yet, Euron has been unsuccessful in breaking down his faith. He believes he will soon die and live an afterlife of joy in the watery halls of the Drowned God.
Yet, from the looks of things, I do not believe Aeron is going to keep his faith. Looking back at his Feast chapters, we see that Aeron's religious devotion is a response to the trauma he has suffered throughout his life. Yet, when he tries to use his religion to stop Euron, he fails. Every single time.
When he hears Euron has claimed the Seastone Chair, he decides to hold a kingsmoot, trusting the Drowned God to intervene and correct the wrong;
"The god took me deep beneath the waves and drowned the worthless thing I was. When he cast me forth again he gave me eyes to see, ears to hear, and a voice to spread his word, that I might be his prophet and teach his truth to those who have forgotten. I was not made to sit upon the Seastone Chair . . . no more than Euron Crow's Eye. For I have heard the god, who says, No godless man may sit my Seastone Chair!"
And then it goes very very awry when Euron is elected king anyways. Yet Aeron rationalizes this by saying that Euron had his warlocks put a spell on the men to choose him;
"It was not the god who spoke. Euron is known to keep wizards and foul sorcerers on that red ship of his. They sent some spell among us, so we could not hear the sea. The captains and the kings were drunk with all this talk of dragons."
And thus Aeron goes into the sea, to take counsel with the Drowned God (which I will discuss more about in just a moment). Afterwards, he seems to be in high spirits again;
Aeron Damphair had struggled back to shore, full of fierce resolve. He would bring down Euron, not with sword or axe but with the power of his faith.
And then he is immediately kidnapped and chained in Silence by Euron's men. When Euron meets him and first force feeds him shade of the evening, Aeron curses him;
âI curse you,â Aeron said, when the cup was empty. Liquor dripped from down his chin into his long, black beard. âIf I had the tongue of every man who cursed me, I could make a cloak of them.â
And of course, nothing happens to Euron. When he is imprisoned on Oakenshield and fed by Falia Flowers, Aeron tries to send a secret message to Victarion, but again, Euron defeats him;
âYou must bear a message to my brother. Not Euron, but Victarion, Lord Captain of the Iron Fleet. Do you know the man I mean?â Falia sat back from him. âYes,â she said. âBut I couldnât bring him any messages. Heâs gone.â âGone?â That was the cruelest blow of all. âGone where?â âEast,â she said, âwith all his ships. Heâs to bring the dragon queen to Westeros. Iâm to be Euronâs salt wife, but he must have a rock wife too, a queen to rule all Westeros at his side. They say sheâs the most beautiful woman in the world, and she has dragons. The two of us will be as close as sisters!â Aeron Damphair hardly heard her. Victarion is gone, half a world away or dead. Surely the Drowned God was testing him. This was a lesson for him. Put not your trust in men. Only my faith can save me now.
And then he prays to die so he can join his god, but this also doesn't work;
That night, when the tide came rushing back into the prison cell, he prayed that it might rise all night, enough to end his torment. I have been your true and leal servant, he prayed, twisting in his chains. Now snatch me from my brotherâs hand, and take me down beneath the waves, to be seated at your side. But no deliverance came. Only the mutes, to undo his chains and drag him roughly up a long stone stair to where the Silence floated on a cold black sea.
When Euron next visits Aeron, Aeron doesn't believe that Euron is capable of kinslaying, only for Euron to prove the exact opposite;
âPray to me. Beg me to end your torment, and I will.â âNot even you would dare,â said the Damphair. âI am your brother. No man is more accursed than the kinslayer.â âAnd yet I wear a crown and you rot in chains. How is it that your Drowned God allows that when I have killed three brothers?â Aeron could only gape at him. âThree?â
The Crowâs Eye pressed the dagger in a little deeper, and Aeron felt blood trickling down his neck. âIf your Drowned God did not smite me for killing three brothers, why should he bestir himself for the fourth? Because you are his priest?â
And then he prays for his brother's death, yet he remains stubbornly alive. When the warlocks and other priests are brought to share the room with him, he fervently prays to his god, thinking he is stronger than all the other false gods. Still, Aeron's mental state is declining;
In his saner moments, Aeron questioned why the Crowâs Eye was collecting priests, but he did not think that he would like the answer. Victarion was gone, and with him, hope. Aeronâs drowned men likely thought the Damphair was hiding on Old Wyk, or Great Wyk, or Pyke, and wondered when he would emerge to speak against this godless king.
One last time, Aeron tries to warn Euron about the wrath of his god;
âRelease me,â Aeron Damphair commanded in his sternest voice, âor risk the wroth of god!â Euron produced a carved stone bottle and a wine cup. âYou have a thirsty look about you,â he said as he poured. âYou need a drink; a taste of eveningâs shade.â âNo.â Aeron turned his face away. âNo, I said.â âAnd I said yes.â
If the Drowned God is going to make the Crow's Eye pay, he's sure taking his time. When Aeron is finally brought up to see Euron's captains, it becomes clear that nobody seems to care about the Drowned God anymore;
âHave your gods been good to you in the dark?â asked Left-Hand Lucas Codd. One of the warlocks snarled some answer in his ugly eastern tongue. âI curse you all,â Aeron said. âYour curses have no power here, priest,â said Left-Hand Lucas Codd. âThe Crowâs Eye has fed your Drowned God well, and he has grown fat with sacrifice. Words are wind, but blood is power. We have given thousands to the sea, and he has given us victories!â
By the end of The Forsaken, despite the excruciating torture at the hands of his demonic brother, Aeron still holds onto his faith. But the fact remains that when Aeron has attempted to do anything involving his faith to defeat Euron, nothing happens. This itself doesn't mean that Aeron will lose his faith, as seen in his chapters, these defeats are rationalized to fit his super religious worldview. However, there are small hints that his faith is merely a shield that is slowly being chipped away at.
Despite Aeron calling Euron godless and saying that the Drowned God himself said he did not want Euron on the Seastone Chair, it's quite clear that it's Aeron who doesn't want him because of his trauma. This isn't an invalid reason, Euron absolutely should not sit the throne, but the fact remains that the Drowned God did not tell him anything, it's all in Aeron's head. When Euron is elected at the kingsmoot;
Even a priest may doubt. Even a prophet may know terror. Aeron Damphair reached within himself for his god and discovered only silence. As a thousand voices shouted out his brother's name, all he could hear was the scream of a rusted iron hinge.
When Aeron faces the reality that his tormentor and abuser has succeeded, in the holiest of places, when he tried to use his faith as a weapon, he is unable to reach his god. Despite this brief moment where he is unable to comprehend his faith with the reality of the world, he quickly goes on to say Euron used sorcery to get the captains to vote for him.
After the kingsmoot, Aeron goes to speak to his god, in one of the most telling moments in The Forsaken;
And there and then, the Drowned God had come to him once more, his voice welling up from the depths of the sea.âAeron, my good and faithful servant, you must tell the Ironborn that the Crowâs Eye is no true king, that the Seastone Chair by rights belongs to ... to ... to ...â Not Victarion. Victarion had offered himself to the captains and kings but they had spurned him. Not Asha. In his heart, Aeron had always loved Asha best of all his brother Balonâs children. The Drowned God had blessed her with a warriorâs spirit and the wisdom of a king â but he had cursed her with a womanâs body, too. No woman had ever ruled the Iron Islands. She should never have made a claim. She should have spoken for Victarion, added her own strength to his. It was not too late, Aeron had decided as he shivered in the sea. If Victarion took Asha for his wife, they could yet rule together, king and queen. In ancient days, each isle had its Salt King and its Rock King. Let the Old Way return.
If the Drowned God was actually talking to him, how come he isn't even able to finish his sentence? How come he doesn't even know who the true ruler is? Aeron is talking to himself, convincing himself that his voice is the voice of the god. Even though he uses his faith as a shield, he unknowingly uses his own thoughts and feelings to fuel his delusion that the Drowned God is talking to him.
It might sound like I'm being very harsh towards Aeron. I am an atheist, and like GRRM, do not like religious fanatics. The horror of what Aeron is going through is not just Euron being literally the most evil character in the universe, it's also the fact of what this torture means when you think about belief in the gods. The horror is that Aeron tries to find reasons to believe the Drowned God is still with him, yet the god never even intervenes. For some, the fact that Aeron still believes in his faith is seen as inspirational and uplifting; even though he has gone through an unbelievable amount of abuse, he's still holding onto his faith, winning over Euron who has been trying to break his faith down.
However, I see this as incredibly dark. On an existential level, the basic concept that staying faithful to God even as bad things happen and that god is all powerful is just frightening. If the god can intervene, why is he not intervening? The horror of The Forsaken isn't just from Euron's mad ambitions; it's in the fact that Aeron's god has not done anything observable to help him in the darkest of times. Even if it is to "teach Aeron a lesson" or "test his faith" it still comes off as horrifying. Who would worship a god that lets bad things happen to you in order to test if you are truly devoted to him? At worst, that's just another form of abuse.
Aeron's story is very dark. He's been abused, used, nearly died, tortured, and devoted to a god who isn't here for him. None of this is to say that if Aeron wasn't religious he'd be handling his torture better, or that Euron is in the right, far from it. I view it as a multilayered tragedy. There is a reason GRRM wrote Aeron as a religious zealot and Euron as a monstrous demon. Ultimately, they are both on the extreme opposite ends of the religious spectrum.
Everything Aeron does is for the Drowned God and is so singular in his devotion that he is blind to the fact that the Drowned God is not the answer to everything. Meanwhile, Euron is so vehemently against religion that he believes everything is nihilistic and is devoid of any and all compassion, serving only himself. While I am an atheist and have many problems with religion, both Aeron and Euron's worldviews are incredibly flawed and ultimately self serving and harmful.
This is why I think, when Euron does whatever he's about to do with Aeron tied to the ship, Aeron's faith will falter. I don't think that GRRM wants Aeron's story of religious fanaticism to be one of triumph and success. His worldview will not be able to withstand everything, just as Euron's worldview won't be able to withstand everything. It's a very dark ending to one of the most tortured characters in the series, but The Winds of Winter is going to be very dark and things will get worse for many characters.
The Corruption of Victarion Flamehand
Older than Aeron, but younger than Euron or Balon, Victarion is sort of the middle child of the Greyjoy family. He, like Aeron, followed Balon loyally throughout his life. When Robert's Rebellion was raging, Victarion joined Balon and Euron in convincing their father, the progressive Quellon, to join in. This led to their fathers death, and Balon claimed the Seastone Chair. When Balon started the Greyjoy's Rebellion, Victarion served him loyally, commanding the standing royal fleet, the Iron Fleet, as its Lord Captain.
Although Victarion is a capable battle commander and naval captain, he is more of a follower, loyally serving his superiors. He is also devoted to the Old Way and reaving culture, wearing plate armour at sea for he does not fear drowning. He lives for fighting and battle, so much so that he wishes to fight some of the best warriors in Westeros;
He would give half his teeth for the chance to try his axe against the Kingslayer or the Knight of Flowers. That was the sort of battle that he understood.
Otherwise, Victarion is not the brightest person in the world (and we'll get to that).
Victarion also mistrusts laughter, as both Euron and Aeron mocked him using feigned praise when they were younger, which hurt him. Yet, he hates Euron for a much deeper reason. When it was learned that Euron impregnated his salt wife (either via seduction or rape), this dishonoured Victarion in the eyes of ironborn culture. To retain his honour, Victarion beat his wife to death, and nearly killed Euron, but Balon reminded him of the sin of kinslaying and instead sent Euron into exile, never to return as long as he lived.
Since then, Victarion has blamed Euron for his wife's death and has wanted to seek revenge. When the kingsmoot is called, he puts forth his claim, yet he is no poet, and all he says is that he will give the ironborn more of what Balon gave them. When Euron wins, unlike their younger brother Aeron, Victarion is resigned to the outcome;
"Drunk, and fearful of that horn. You heard the sound it made. It makes no matter. Euron is our king."
Despite Victarion's hatred of his brother, he follows him loyally. When Baelor Blacktyde refuses to accept Euron as his liege, Victarion blocked his escape with the Iron Fleet and delivered Baelor to Euron to be executed. He then follows Euron's plans to take the Shields, by blocking the mouth of the Mander to prevent the dromonds from returning to the isles while Euron swooped in and took them undefended. He also agrees to sail the Iron Fleet to Meereen to bring Daenerys back to Westeros when Euron asks him of it, but he plans to betray Euron and marry Daenerys for himself.
As noted above, Euron's gifts are poison, and Victarion is aware of that. One of the most interesting of gifts Victarion is given by Euron is the dusky woman;
As a reward for his leal service, the new-crowned king had given Victarion the dusky woman, taken off some slaver bound for Lys. "I want none of your leavings," he had told his brother scornfully, but when the Crow's Eye said that the woman would be killed unless he took her, he had weakened. Her tongue had been torn out, but elsewise she was undamaged, and beautiful besides, with skin as brown as oiled teak. Yet sometimes when he looked at her, he found himself remembering the first woman his brother had given him, to make a man of him.
Euron is very well aware of Victarion's hatred of him and his issues with women after impregnating his wife. The dusky woman as a gift is a different type of poison; a reminder of the power Euron has over Victarion. He took away Victarion's wife (again, as Victarion sees it), and just as easily gave him a new woman. As Moqorro later sees, Euron is the one behind the black strings that make Victarion dance. And dance he does.
When Victarion leaves to sail east with the Iron Fleet, he begins to change. For the first time, Victarion is truly on his own, with no one else to give him orders or advice. And here we begin to see Victarion change into a different sort of person. While he loathes Euron, Victarion also seems to look up to him. As the middle child, Victarion inevitably suffers from middle child syndrome, always walking in the shadows of his older brother, who gets all the credit while he obediently follows him from behind. Throughout the journey, Victarion thinks about Euron and what he'd do, and it influences his own decisions;
So he had slapped the Limper twice across the face and said, "The first is for the ships you lost, the second for your talk of curses. Speak of that again and I will nail your tongue to the mast. If the Crow's Eye can make mutes, so can I."
The Crow's Eye had sailed halfway across the world, reaving and plundering from Qarth to Tall Trees Town, calling at unholy ports beyond where only madmen went. Euron had even braved the Smoking Sea and lived to tell of it. And that with only one ship. If he can mock the gods, so can I.
But Moqorro knew these strange shores in ways the ironborn did not, and secrets of the dragonkind as well. The Crow's Eye keeps wizards, why shouldn't I?
But sailing around Yaros would cost him precious days. With Yunkai so near, shipping in the straits was like to be heavy, but he did not expect to encounter Yunkish warships until they were closer to Meereen. What would the Crow's Eye do? He brooded on that for a time, then signaled to his captains. "We sail the straits."
As the journey continues and he discovers Moqorro, he also begins to find a new confidence within himself, thanks to the red priests magical abilities. His hand was infected thanks to him not treating a wound he took in a previous battle, and when Moqorro healed it, it became something entirely different;
The arm the priest had healed was hideous to look upon, pork crackling from elbow to fingertips. Sometimes when Victarion closed his hand the skin would split and smoke, yet the arm was stronger than it had ever been.
Moqorro continues to give accurate predictions from his nightfires to Victarion, allowing him to find missing ships and hunt down other ships to add to his fleet. As he grows in his own newfound power, he also begins to take on the worship of R'hllor, sacrificing to him in addition to the Drowned God;
"Two gods are with me now," he told the dusky woman. "No foe can stand before two gods."
"With this gift of innocence and beauty, we honor both the gods," he proclaimed, as the warships of the Iron Fleet rowed past the burning ketch. "Let these girls be reborn in light, undefiled by mortal lust, or let them descend to the Drowned God's watery halls, to feast and dance and laugh until the seas dry up."
This culminates when Moqorro sees the dragon horn Euron gave Victarion, and translates the runes inscribed on it;
"Here it says, 'No mortal man shall sound me and live.' " Bitterly Victarion brooded on the treachery of brothers. Euron's gifts are always poisoned. "The Crow's Eye swore this horn would bind dragons to my will. But how will that serve me if the price is death?" "Your brother did not sound the horn himself. Nor must you." Moqorro pointed to the band of steel. "Here. 'Blood for fire, fire for blood.' Who blows the hellhorn matters not. The dragons will come to the horn's master. You must claim the horn. With blood."
With this, Victarion now has a plan to have three thralls sound Dragonbinder, after he has claimed the horn with blood, in order to get Daenerys's dragons bound to him. Suffice to say that his ambitions are starting to grow;
He brushed his hand across one of the red gold bands and the ancient glyph seemed to sing beneath his fingertips. For half a heartbeat he wanted nothing so much as to sound the horn himself. Euron was a fool to give me this, it is a precious thing, and powerful. With this Iâll win the Seastone Chair, and then the Iron Throne. With this Iâll win the world.
Yet throughout all of this, Victarion never questions why Moqorro is helping him or if he has an ulterior motive. Moqorro serves him and his needs, and thats all that matters to the Lord Captain. Although Moqorro is most certainly only going to be 100% faithful to Daenerys, as she is Azor Ahai reborn, he is ultimately using Victarion as a means to an end, yet he is useful to him in that regard. He must get to Meereen, and the best way is to get into the good graces of Victarion, and it does him no good to lie or deceive him when Victarion is the only person who doesn't want to sacrifice him to the Drowned God.
In addition, Moqorro has gained a convert to R'hllor, although begrudgingly, as Victarion still worships the Drowned God. He is also coming to ally with Daenerys, which gives him maybe more credit than if Moqorro were to be picked up by someone else. While I don't think Moqorro is lying to Victarion, he is still manipulating him, trying to convert him to R'hllorism and giving him valuable information so that Victarion doesn't kill him. It all works towards Moqorro's larger goal of serving Azor Ahai, aka Daenerys Stormborn.
I think that Euron's original plan for Victarion was simple. Have him travel to Meereen, plot to betray Euron, get obsessed with Dragonbinder, then blow the horn and die as a result (or some other way), gifting Daenerys a dragon horn and a fleet of ships to bring her to Westeros. Despite Euron's manipulation and psychological trickery usually working out for him, Moqorro is a potential wildcard that throws his plans out of balance. It is because of Moqorro that Victarion is now on the verge of acquiring dragons. It is because of Moqorro that Victarion has this newfound power and confidence. It is because of Moqorro that Victarion did not die of his hand wound that he previously refused to treat.
This is also why I think Victarion will be successful in acquiring his own dragon (for a time). With Moqorro's knowledge, which Euron could not have possibly foreseen, Victarion now has the capability of acquiring a dragon. Although it's certainly plausible Moqorro's information is faulty, the information we have is consistent with what we know, and as stated above, there are ample reasons to believe Moqorro isn't trying to get Victarion killed. Story wise, if we are to up the stakes, then someone taking control of one of Dany's dragons would be a big way to change things and show the power that Dragonbinder possesses.
Despite all the talk of manipulation, Victarion's goals are still his own. It's why his chapter titles switch from his roles (The Iron Captain/The Reaver/The Iron Suitor) to his name (Victarion I). He is becoming more himself, he's just being given the tools that allow him to do so while also suiting other peoples agendas. And the more he becomes himself, the uglier he seems. Between his increasingly graphic human sacrifices and his almost delusional want for immense power, he's becoming more selfish and villainous than before.
In fact, while he is coming into his own, it's also very noticeable that he is slowly also becoming more like Euron. He is starting to use magic for his own ends, has a red priest coaching him in magic, and starting to reject some teachings of ironborn culture by also worshipping R'hllor. This is rather significant, as I'll discuss later, but Victarion becoming like Euron is more than a result of him being jealous about living in the shadow of his older brother; despite the fact that Euron's way is not like the Old Way, he has more in common with Victarion than Victarion cares to admit.
He objects to Euron selling the captives of the Shield Isles into slavery, when the ironborn practice thralldom, which is essentially a form of slavery. He objects to Euron supposedly using his warlocks, but then Victarion decides to use a red priest. Most importantly, however; he does not accept responsibility for his wifes death. Ironborn culture is incredibly misogynistic and terrible, and Victarion being who he is, follows through even though he didn't want to.
Yet, although Euron definitely knew what he was doing and what Victarion would do, he cannot be to blame for what Victarion did. He chose to beat his wife to death because she was impregnated by another man. The fact is that Victarion is a villain who undeniably believes himself to be the hero, and works through psychological loopholes to put the blame on someone else. Euron and Victarion are opposites, yet also identical in a way. They are both villains, but while Euron knows he is a terrible person doing terrible things for his own gain, Victarion thinks he's a good person and serving his gods while doing terrible things for his own gain.
Of course, there is also the factor that Euron is actually competent; he's highly manipulative, politically aware, and perceptive of how to play people. Meanwhile, Victarion is dumb as a stump, easily manipulated, and never considers what other peoples motives might be (even though he does with Euron, he ends up just not thinking about that at all). It makes for a rather entertaining contrast between the two.
Sailing on a Sea of Blood
Having now talked about Euron and his relationship with his brothers, it's time to look at what Euron is going to do in the future, and The Forsaken is the starting point to build off. It is one of my favourite chapters in the entire series; it is a masterpiece of psychological horror, with big twists, reveals, and terrifying moments. There are also many visions that Aeron experiences from being force-fed shade of the evening. The section will be split into three different parts.
The first will be viewing at the general visions, deciphering their possible meaning to the story. The second will be specifically looking at the visions and other text that might pertain to the coming naval battle Euron is planning to engage in. The third will be exploring what exactly Euron is going to do. I will also be taking bits from different chapters as well as I see fit. Since it was a sample chapter for an unreleased book, it is important to note that the visions Aeron has may change in the final product. But since we don't have the final product, we'll be sticking with the one we know.
To begin our journey into madness, we have Aeron's first set of visions. These occur at the beginning of the chapter when Euron first force feeds Aeron the wine of the warlocks. It begins with Urri, Aeron's dead brother;
âUrri!â he cried. There is no hinge here, no door, no Urri. His brother Urrigon was long dead, yet there he stood. One arm was black and swollen, stinking with maggots, but he was still Urri, still a boy, no older than the day he died. âYou know what waits below the sea, brother?â âThe Drowned God,â Aeron said, âthe watery halls.â Urri shook his head. âWorms ... worms await you, Aeron.â
On a subconscious level, it'd make sense for Aeron to have dreams of his faith being false. Dream Urri tells him that nothing but death awaits him in the sea, no Drowned God, no afterlife. This is potentially prophetic, as it goes nicely with another vision later on;
When he laughed his face sloughed off and the priest saw that it was not Urri but Euron, the smiling eye hidden. He showed the world his blood eye now, dark and terrible. Clad head to heel in scale as dark as onyx, he sat upon a mound of blackened skulls as dwarfs capered round his feet and a forest burned behind him.
The scale dark as onyx might refer to the Valyrian steel armour Euron wears at the end of the chapter. And here we see the true Euron; his smiling eye, the blue eye that represents the face he shows the ironborn, is hidden, and now his blood eye, the black eye filled with malice that represents his true monstrous self, is visible. Him sitting on a mound of burned skulls with dwarves at his feet, and that burning forest, probably represents his way of acquiring power and how he views himself.
He is bringing untold death and destruction in his wake, all in a quest to gain ever more power. In his view, everyone else is insignificant and he towers over them. It also fits nicely with the general apocalyptic aesthetic these dreams have, which is important to the next part where Euron says;
âThe bleeding star bespoke the end,â he said to Aeron. âThese are the last days, when the world shall be broken and remade. A new god shall be born from the graves and charnel pits.â Then Euron lifted a great horn to his lips and blew, and dragons and krakens and sphinxes came at his command and bowed before him.
The mention of the red comet is interesting. Over the POVs we learn that the comet has many different meanings to people. However, we also know that from the Azor Ahai prophecy, which states;
"There will come a day after a long summer when the stars bleed and the cold breath of darkness falls heavy on the world. In this dread hour a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword. And that sword shall be Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes, and he who clasps it shall be Azor Ahai come again, and the darkness shall flee before him."
So Euron at least knows what the red comet signifies, or perhaps even knows about the Azor Ahai prophecy. Whatever the case, he knows that something apocalyptic is coming and is taking advantage of it. I do not believe in the theories that Euron is in league with the Others and wants to lead them or anything; he is simply aware that very bad times are coming and is using it as an opportunity to gain power.
The symbolism regarding the dragons, krakens, and sphinxes is mostly straightforward- the dragons representing Daenerys coming to Westeros based on his own actions, and the krakens being the ironborn he rules over- although the sphinx is much harder to figure out. Historically, sphinxes are known for killing those who cannot answer their riddles, acting as spiritual guardians. Perhaps this represents Euron's own hubris when it comes to power; the warlocks of Qarth have hidden knowledge, thanks to their shade of the evening, but Euron has now gained that knowledge after dominating them. Perhaps the warlocks might be represented by the sphinxes, guarding their ways closely, but Euron has bypassed that and can now tap into them. Who knows, sphinxes are purposefully tricky.
And the first vision set ends with one of the more disturbing images in the chapter;
âKneel, brother,â the Crowâs Eye commanded. âI am your king, I am your god. Worship me, and I will raise you up to be my priest.â âNever. No godless man may sit the Seastone Chair!â âWhy would I want that hard black rock? Brother, look again and see where I am seated.â Aeron Damphair looked. The mound of skulls was gone. Now it was metal underneath the Crowâs Eye: a great, tall, twisted seat of razor sharp iron, barbs and blades and broken swords, all dripping blood. Impaled upon the longer spikes were the bodies of the gods. The Maiden was there and the Father and the Mother, the Warrior and Crone and Smith ... even the Stranger. They hung side by side with all manner of queer foreign gods: the Great Shepherd and the Black Goat, three-headed Trios and the Pale Child Bakkalon, the Lord of Light and the butterfly god of Naath. And there, swollen and green, half-devoured by crabs, the Drowned God festered with the rest, seawater still dripping from his hair. Then, Euron Crowâs Eye laughed again, and the priest woke screaming in the bowels of Silence, as piss ran down his leg.
As Euron getting Aeron to worship him as his god has been discussed elsewhere, we'll move right past that and talk about Euron's goals. Here it's clear that he doesn't care for the Iron Islands, or the Seastone Chair, or hell, even the ironborn. He is merely using them for his own ends in acquiring what he truly wants; the Iron Throne.
The bodies of the gods impaled on the Iron Throne represents Euron's goal to be seen as a god, and the fact that he holds all the gods false. In his mind, he is the only true god, and all the others are false. There is possibly more to this, but that will come later. Afterwards, there is at least a few weeks before Euron once again forces the vile LSD wine into his mouth, and the visions get more terrifying and mysterious;
The dreams were even worse the second time. He saw the longships of the Ironborn adrift and burning on a boiling blood-red sea.
As I'll discuss later, this is most likely a view at the upcoming naval altercation Euron is about to have with the Redwyne fleet, so we'll explore this in detail in a moment;
He saw his brother on the Iron Throne again, but Euron was no longer human. He seemed more squid than man, a monster fathered by a kraken of the deep, his face a mass of writhing tentacles. Beside him stood a shadow in womanâs form, long and tall and terrible, her hands alive with pale white fire. Dwarves capered for their amusement, male and female, naked and misshapen, locked in carnal embrace, biting and tearing at each other as Euron and his mate laughed and laughed and laughed ...
Aaaaaand we have gone to Lovecraftian horror. Euron in this vision is supposed to invoke the imagery of Cthulhu, who is a cosmic entity worshipped by various cults and the source of constantly subconscious anxiety in the works of HP Lovecraft. Sounds a lot like Euron, doesn't it? I don't think that this vision is meant to be literal, in that he will turn into a squid demon, but it's definitely meant to represent the existential horror he brings.
The shadow in woman's form has been subject to much theorizing and debate, but I ultimately believe that this is meant to be Daenerys. Aeron, who has never met her, does not know her, but given that Euron is mad and cruel, it is reasonable for him to assume that Daenerys is also mad and cruel, otherwise why would Euron want her? It is also important to note that Euron has also never met Daenerys, and this may also be how he views her; a partner in conquering and surviving the apocalypse. The dwarf imagery, again, speaks to the dominance Euron wants him and Daenerys to have, ruling as gods over everyone else.
Aeron dreamed of drowning, too. Not of the bliss that would surely follow down in the Drowned Godâs watery halls, but of the terror that even the faithful feel as the water fills their mouth and nose and lungs, and they cannot draw a breath. Three times the Damphair woke, and three times it proved no true waking, but only another chapter in a dream.
This is the last vision Aeron has, and it goes back with the very first vision he had. Urri told him that nothing glorious awaits him in the sea, no afterlife, just death. And here in this dream, Aeron is afraid as he drowns. Drowning at sea is considered one of the most holy ways to die in Ironborn culture, yet Aeron is fearful. Of course, this is definitely subconsciously something he is afraid of, but given evening's shade has a magical component to it, it might foreshadow his real death. There is more support for this, when Euron visits him;
âThat which is dead cannot die,â said Aeron fiercely. âFor he who has tasted death once need never fear again. He was drowned, but he came forth stronger than before, with steel and fire.â âWill you do the same, brother?â Euron asked. âI think not. I think if I drowned you, youâll stay drowned."
And thus the visions come to an end. But where does this leave us? What is to happen next? Well, we did skip over certain parts for this purpose, and now is time to look back at that. About midway through the chapter, Aeron is joined by several other priests in Euron's custody;
It was in the second dungeon that the other holy men began to appear to share his torments. Three wore the robes of septons of the green lands, and one the red raiment of a priest of Râhllor. The last was hardly recognizable as a man. Both his hands had been burned down to the bone, and his face was a charred and blackened horror where two blind eyes moved sightlessly above the cracked cheeks dripping pus. He was dead within hours of being shackled to the wall, but the mutes left his body there to ripen for three days afterwards. Last were two warlocks of the east, with flesh as white as mushrooms, and lips the purplish-blue of a bad bruise, all so gaunt and starved that only skin and bones remained. One had lost his legs. The mutes hung him from a rafter.
Here we have three septons, a red priest, followed by the two warlocks of Qarth joining a Drowned Priest in this dungeon. There could be more, however. I find it rather unlikely that a red priest would be found in Westeros, as it is a primarily Essosi religion. When looking back to the vision of the gods impaled on the Iron Throne, it could also foreshadow Euron's upcoming blood sacrifice. If it does, then he might have more priests from the other gods we see. One thing to note as well is that Aeron does not see the old gods, as they would not have priests.
Regardless, Euron is collecting these priests for a special purpose;
He stepped back and sheathed his dagger. âNo, Iâll not kill you tonight. A holy man with holy blood. I may have need of that that blood ... later. For now, you are condemned to live.â
In the canon of bloodmagic, we've only ever heard of kings blood, as Melisandre notes it has great power. She and Stannis nearly burned Edric Storm to wake dragons out of stone because he was the son of King Robert. Holy blood is something entirely new. However, he also is using a pregnant Falia Flowers in the ritual as well. Their child has kings blood, so Euron might end up using kings blood anyways. This mixture of holy blood and kings blood suggests that he is trying to tap into different forms of magical power. Euron is also ready to sacrifice the warlocks, who may not be priests, but are magical people.
There is also the possibility that these won't be the only people he sacrifices. In two visions, Euron is associated with the image of a sea of blood. This first appears when Moqorro tells Tyrion about the people who are seeking Daenerys;
"Only their shadows," Moqorro said. "One most of all. A tall and twisted thing with one black eye and ten long arms, sailing on a sea of blood."
The second, of course, is this line from Aeron's nightmare visions.
The dreams were even worse the second time. He saw the longships of the Ironborn adrift and burning on a boiling blood-red sea.
The burning ships might indicate that the ironborn will suffer large casualties in the coming battle with the Redwyne fleet. Euron himself knows that the Redwyne fleet and Hightower fleet are trying to trap him in the Redwyne Straits using a pincer maneuever;
âCount yourself blessed, Damphair,â said Stonehand. âWe are going back to sea. The Redwyne fleet creeps toward us. The winds have been against them rounding Dorne, but theyâre finally near enough to have emboldened the old women in Oldtown, so now Leyton Hightowerâs sons move down the Whispering Sound in hopes of catching us in the rear.â
And yet Euron knows this and sails into battle anyways. The Redwyne fleet is also the largest in Westeros, around 200 warships. Meanwhile, with the Iron Fleet gone, Euron's main source of seapower is gone. His fleet, as Aeron sees, is also far smaller than the one they are about to enter conflict with;
And so, Aeron Damphair returned to the salt sea. A dozen longships were drawn up at the wharf below the castle, and twice as many beached along the strand. Familiar banners streamed from their masts: the Greyjoy kraken, the bloody moon of Wynch, the warhorn of the Goodbrothers. But from their sterns flew a flag the priest had never seen before: a red eye with a black pupil beneath an iron crown supported by two crows. Beyond them, a host of merchant ships floated on a tranquil, turquoise sea. Cogs, carracks, fishing boats, even a great cog, a swollen sow of a ship as big as the Leviathan. Prizes of war, the Damphair knew.
Only 36 longships and an unknown number of ships they caught from their raids. Militarily, the fleets of the Reach have the numerical and tactical advantage, with larger fleets and ships built for naval combat. Euron is also very confident about what he is doing, and given that there is no way he can defeat them conventionally, it's most likely that he is about to use magic. While the Reach fleets want to lure Euron into a trap, Euron himself is luring them into a different kind of trap, and the perfect bait would be to send some of his fleet to do battle, perhaps as a sacrifice of sorts (more later).
This image of a sea of blood appears as visions from two different sources; one a red priest far away in Essos, and the other Aeron. Being shown far from each other suggests that this event is important magically and metaphysically. It has shades of when Daenerys saw a vision of the Red Wedding in the House of the Undying, far away from Qarth or anything she was involved with. When considering what Euron is exactly doing here, one possibility is that he is summoning krakens. Krakens are apparently drawn to the surface by blood, and capable of pulling under large galleys, as Arianne is told by the Tolands in Dorne;
"And krakens off the Broken Arm, pulling under crippled galleys," said Valena. "The blood draws them to the surface, our maester claims. There are bodies in the water. A few have washed up on our shores."
In the Iron Islands own history, krakens also appear in large numbers when there are heavy casualties from sea battles. From Fire & Blood, we know that after the death of King Harren Hoare, the Iron Islands were thrown into chaos and battled one another with their own kings;
Other claimants around on Great Wyk, Pyke, and Orkmont, and for more than a year their adherents battled one another on land and sea. It was said that the waters between the islands were so choked with corpses that krakens appeared by the hundreds, drawn by the blood.
Krakens being drawn to the surface by the blood from the large casualties seems possible, but this would not be the main reason for the sacrifice. Given how much build up there is, the fact it spans two continents, I think that something far more magical and powerful is happening. One of the most curious, and severely underrated, portions of The Forsaken is the detail in Aeron's vision that the blood-red sea is boiling. It could definitely be from krakens appearing, but as noted, there seems to be something more happening. It also invokes the image of the Doom of Valyria, where the Smoking Sea is said to boil in places.
Going back towards the idea of a set of ships being sent as bait to the Redwyne fleet, there might be more reasons for this to happen. Instead of being just bait, these ships and the ironmen on them could also be sacrifices. It would justify the scale of what Euron is doing, using a huge amount of death to accomplish it. Steven Attewell suggests that Euron is planning to sacrifice his entire fleet, deliberately having thousands killed, while he uses the priests as talismans or ways of focusing magical energy to complete the ritual.
While I don't agree with everything written in the post, I think that Euron is definitely going to deliberately sacrifice at least a portion of his fleet, and use the priests sacrifices to amplify the power of the death from the naval battle. And Euron is definitely preparing for battle, not just a sacrifice;
Euron Crowâs Eye stood upon the deck of Silence, clad in a suit of black scale armor like nothing Aeron had ever seen before. Dark as smoke it was, but Euron wore it as easily as if it was the thinnest silk. The scales were edged in red gold, and gleamed and shimmered when they moved. Patterns could be seen within the metal, whorls and glyphs and arcane symbols folded into the steel. Valyrian steel, the Damphair knew. His armor is Valyrian steel. In all the Seven Kingdoms, no man owned a suit of Valyrian steel. Such things had been known 400 years ago, in the days before the Doom, but even then, they wouldâve cost a kingdom.
He's not wearing that for no reason. He intends on a fight, with magical assistance. But what exactly he is doing is a lot harder to parse out. Perhaps the Doom of Valyria example is close to the mark. Euron himself has many artefacts and ideas that are rather deeply rooted with Valyrian culture. He had Dragonbinder, he has a suit of Valyrian steel armour, he wants to marry Daenerys and get her dragons. His antitheism is even reminiscent of Valyrians view on religion, although he is not tolerant;
Some scholars have suggested that the dragonlords regarded all faiths as equally false, believing themselves to be more powerful than any god or goddess. They looked upon priests and temples as relics of a more primitive time, though useful for placating "slaves, savages, and the poor" with promises of a better life to come. Moreover, a multiplicity of gods helped to keep their subjects divided and lessened the chances of their uniting under the banner of a single faith to overthrow their overlords. Religious tolerance was to them a means of keeping the peace in the Lands of the Long Summer.
He is also practicing blood magic, which the Valyrians also famously practiced. It's possible that this sacrifice is something rooted in Valyrian magic. Him needing "holy blood" also strikes me as him trying to tap into some sort of divine power, something that could be considered an act of god.
When thinking about Euron's goal to become a god, we can get caught up in the idea that he wants to literally become a god and this ritual is his way of trying to do that. However, he already believes himself to be more powerful than all the gods, as he does horrific things constantly without ever being stopped by them. Instead, I believe Euron is doing this ritual to do something that makes him appear as god-like, instead of literally making himself a god.
What exactly that is, I'm not sure. The visions are vague, and the boiling sea could mean any number of things, whether it be krakens being summoned, or the Redwyne Straits literally becoming the new Smoking Sea. He has been planning it for a while, as he mentions needing holy blood halfway through the chapter, long before the end. Perhaps he was waiting for the right time, when there would be massive casualties as a result of a massive sea battle, to do this ritual. In that case, he could try to make himself a god in fact, or gain power in some way, rather than simply do his own act of god.
He is noted as not caring much about material wealth;
She laughed. âSilly, he wonât. Iâm his love, his lady. He gives me gifts, so many gifts. Silks and furs and jewels. Rags and rocks, he calls them.â âThe Crowâs Eye puts no value in such things.â That was one of the things that drew men to his service. Most captains kept the lionâs share of their plunder but Euron took almost nothing for himself.
Despite being narcissistic, he doesn't seem to really care about having the most powerful stuff. This could be that his real goal is to try to gain some sort of power or godly ability, and gods have no need of material wealth. It's not what he wants, he wants deification. There are three things I'm sure of, however; 1) Aeron will not be able to comprehend what he will see. 2) The Redwyne and Hightower fleets are fucked. 3) It's going to be horrifying and exciting to read about.
The Future of the Crow's Eye
The final section is going to explore what Euron will do in the story beyond weird pirate warlock god-king shit, his next moves, as well as his inevitable end. As frightening and imposing a figure he is, I don't believe he will be the "final villain" of the series. The main antagonist of the series has always and will always be the Others. This doesn't mean that Euron won't succeed in doing some serious damage, however. Mad, bold, and malicious, he is going to and has already started to do things that significantly move the narrative.
His presence in the Reach means he is a very near and significant threat to Sam and others at the Citadel in Oldtown. He has already sent Victarion to Slaver's Bay, and whatever he does there will be because of Euron. The probability that Daenerys is going to use the Iron Fleet to reach Westeros is also pretty high, as it would be a waste of narrative space for the fleet to be sent to her and them leaving without her. We will return to Daenerys and Victarion later, but first a look at some of the historical parallels to Euron.
The image of someone wearing an eyepatch and having a bright blue eye is also found with Aemond Targaryen, from the Dance of the Dragons. Unlike Euron, he had only one real eye, but the eye he lost was replaced with a sapphire gemstome, which he usually kept hidden with an eyepatch. He was also the second born brother of the king, and a narcissist who remarked that he looked better wearing the crown (when named Prince Regent after Aegon was wounded) than Aegon II ever did. However, beyond that, he doesnât share much more with Aemond.
This leads us back to Harwyn Hardhand, who we mentioned much earlier. Like Euron, he (probably) hired a Faceless Man to kill his older brother and then take the Seastone Chair. And, like Euron, he spent much time away from the Iron Islands;
His son Harwyn had no use for peace, but much and more for the arms and armor that his father forged. A belligerent boy by all accounts, and third in the succession, Harwyn Hoare was sent to sea at an early age. He sailed with a succession of reavers in the Stepstones, visited Volantis, Tyrosh, and Braavos, became a man in the pleasure gardens of Lys, spent two years in the Basilisk Isles as a captive of a pirate king, sold his sword to a free company in the Disputed Lands, and fought in several battles as a Second Son.
After his time away and returning, Harwyn then invaded and conquered the Riverlands, which the ironborn would hold for three generations. This is worth noting as the ironborn are not great on land, but Harwynâs time with sellsword companies in the Disputed Lands made him a worthy commander on land and sea. Euron is strictly a very skilled naval commander, but he has also learned about the power of blood sacrifice and magic, which the ironborn are now also utilizing. His deceptive tactics have also begun to find use in some of his reavers;
"It grieves me that honest men must suffer such discourtesy, but sooner that than ironmen in Oldtown. Only a fortnight ago some of those bloody bastards captured a Tyroshi merchantman in the straits. They killed her crew, donned their clothes, and used the dyes they found to color their whiskers half a hundred colors. Once inside the walls they meant to set the port ablaze and open a gate from within whilst we fought the fire. Might have worked, but they ran afoul of the Lady of the Tower, and her oarsmaster has a Tyroshi wife. When he saw all the green and purple beards he hailed them in the tongue of Tyrosh, and not one of them had the words to hail him back."
Sam notes that the ironborn are far bolder than ever, no doubt emboldened by Euronâs victories. With the Arbor having been sacked, and with the Redwyne and Hightower fleets dealt with, Euron is now free to raid Oldtown. Itâs likely that he will use some sort of deception, as Oldtown is a strongly fortified city and the Hightowers are preparing to deal with them. Once again, look no further than Harwyn Hardhand;
Harwyn assembled a host and led it across the bay on a hundred of his father's longships. Landing unchallenged north of Seagard, they carried their ships overland to the Blue Fork of the Trident, then swept downstream with fire and sword.
Given the obvious parallels with Harwyn Hardhand, succeeding in conquering most of the Reach, this is another way Euron could parallel Harwyn. While some of the ironborn attack Oldtown straight from the Whispering Sound, he has others land south of Oldtown, carry their longships around to the Honeywine, then strike Oldtown from the north where they least expect it. If they get a hold of Oldtown, they then have another base they can use to launch even more raids all along the Honeywine, far inland into the Reach.
There is, however, the possibility that Euron might not succeed. Oldtown is set to be an important location in the future, and we currently have Sam Tarly there as a POV. When Jon tells him to go to Oldtown to earn a maesters chain, he also tells him to keep up his practice with archery, and he does, joining the red archers aboard the Cinnamon Wind to send out a volley of arrows against ironborn trying to hunt them down. He even manages to have his arrow hit the ship by the end, which shows he is improving. Thus far he has worked with Ulmer of the Kingswood Brotherhood, Kojja Mo aboard the Cinnamon Wind, and is now to be looked after Alleras (Sarella Sand), all of whom are very skilled archers. In addition, the sigil of House Tarly is a striding huntsmen atop a horse with a bow in hand.
I think itâs possible Sam actually does kill Euron, but even if he doesnât, he might prove important to the battle or rescuing Oldtown in some other way. If heâs successful in sacking Oldtown, I imagine he will be continuing to raid the Reach, all to prepare for Daenerys to come to Westeros and maybe impress her with his own deeds. Yet, I do not believe things will work out for Euron exactly as he wishes, because events in the east are going far beyond his control.
So now we finally return to Meereen and now I can wrap this whole thing up. There is a strong possibility for Victarion to succeed in binding a dragon to him, as discussed before. The big question is how Daenerys might react to this. On the one hand, she might not be super happy with Victarion taking one of her children, and she has been warned by Quaithe not to trust âthe krakenâ. On the other hand, the House of the Undying tells her âthree heads has the dragonâ and she thinks to herself;
The dragon has three heads. There are two men in the world who I can trust, if I can find them. I will not be alone then. We will be three against the world, like Aegon and his sisters.
Yet when we look at the House of the Undying visions, I think it becomes clear that Daenerys will allow Victarion to ally with her, possibly even marry him too;
. . three mounts must you ride . . . one to bed and one to dread and one to love . . .
Itâs most likely that the one to bed is Drogo and the one to love is Jon Snow. The one to dread could refer to her being a dragonrider with Drogon, but if we go along the themes of a lover or a husband, it could refer to someone else, possibly Euron or Victarion. This would be ambiguous to me if it werenât for more obvious visions that Dany receives from the Undying;
Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars. A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, grey lips smiling sadly. A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness. . . . mother of dragons, bride of fire . . .
She is called âbride of fireâ and we have her silver gifted to her by Drogo, her husband, so these all likely refer to significant marriages in her life. The corpse at the prow of a ship with grey lips smiling sadly, in my mind, almost certainly refers to a Greyjoy (what with the ship and the allusion of grey lips smiling being a sort of pun on the name Greyjoy). Victarion is already present in Meereen and Euron is hundreds of miles away. With an offer of marriage, and a visual of a future husband matching Victarion or another Greyjoy, it seems to me she will marry a Greyjoy, and Victarion makes the most sense to me.
Why he is a corpse at the prow of a ship is tricky; perhaps he did actually die and Moqorro brought him back to life (although I prefer to think he was just healed with fire magic). Or he is a dead man walking whose time is limited. Thereâs a lot to think about for this. Drogo was important to Daenerys, as she ended up falling in love with him (as problematic as I find that entire storyline), and his death did lead to the birth of her dragons. Jon Snow, one of the other main characters of the series, is likely to have a significant impact on Dany as well (there is an almost overwhelming amount of foreshadowing for the two getting together but weâll save that for another time).
If we keep with the pattern, perhaps Victarion might be important to Daenerys as well. I find it difficult to imagine this, but GRRM has done this sort of stuff before, and perhaps I am underestimating Daenerys in that regard. And there are reasons why Daenerys might marry Victarion, even if she wonât fall in love with him. For one, Victarion is rather easy to manipulate, and he would do anything to get into Daenerysâs good graces. He might have some severe issues with women, but something tells me he would do whatever she told him if he meant he would get her as a reward.
On the other hand, he has many things to offer her; he has Dragonbinder that Euron gave him, and he has the Iron Fleet. One reason why Quentyn failed to get Daenerys to marry him (apart from the fact she was still trying to integrate into Meereenese society) is because he only showed up with two of his friends and a signed marriage pact. In other words, nothing present and material that she can see. But if Victarion helps in the defeat of the Yunkish, defeats the Volantenes, and has a massive fleet he commands, it would prove to her that he is a useful ally to have.
In addition, she is now of a mind to finally just head to Westeros and leave Essos all together, and so marrying a Westerosi lord would be important to her, even if he is a fucking Greyjoy. All together, although I found it to be strange at first, there is a strange amount of evidence and logical reasons for her to marry Victarion. It is an inverse to Quentynâs quest, where both go over a long journey and have similar end goals, but where Quentyn failed, Victarion will succeed⌠at least for a bit. And, as Euron tells Victarion;
"When the kraken weds the dragon, brother, let all the world beware."
Except the kraken marrying the dragon is Victarion, not Euron. If this happens, then Daenerys comes to Westeros with Euron as her antagonist, not a potential suitor. This leads to the final point (finally) I want to discuss. How will Euron meet his end? Heâs a legit villain and a major threat, but there is no way he will survive the series. I brought up the theory of Sam the Slayer killing Euron, but it is equally plausible that Euron kills Victarion and in revenge Daenerys burns Euron to death with her dragons. I have another theory, however.
In Victarionâs first chapter alone, kinslaying is brought up four times, and in his next two it is mentioned thrice more, all in reference to Euron;
Euron was still his elder, no matter how much bad blood might be between them. No man is as accursed as the kinslayer.
He would give half his teeth for the chance to try his axe against the Kingslayer or the Knight of Flowers. That was the sort of battle that he understood. The kinslayer was accursed in the eyes of gods and men, but the warrior was honored and revered.
In addition, there are references to Victarion thinking about Euron while also thinking about killing him with his own hands;
Victarion's hands closed into fists. He had beaten four men to death with those hands, and one wife as well. Though his hair was flecked with hoarfrost, he was as strong as he had ever been, with a bull's broad chest and a boy's flat belly. The kinslayer is accursed in the eyes of gods and men, Balon had reminded him on the day he sent the Crow's Eye off to sea.
Victarion would not speak of kinslaying, here in this godly place beneath the bones of Nagga and the Grey King's Hall, but many a night he dreamed of driving a mailed fist into Euron's smiling face, until the flesh split and his bad blood ran red and free. I must not. I pledged my word to Balon.
"He put a baby in her belly and made me do the killing. I would have killed him too, but Balon would have no kinslaying in his hall. He sent Euron into exile, never to return . . ."
He drank in the darkness, brooding on his brother. If I do not strike the blow with mine own hand, am I still a kinslayer? Victarion feared no man, but the Drowned God's curse gave him pause. If another strikes him down at my command, will his blood still stain my hands?
"The Crow's Eye fears you, my lord, why else send you so far away? He does not mean for us to return." Victarion had thought the same when he met the first storm a day out of Old Volantis. The gods hate kinslayers, he brooded, elsewise Euron Crow's Eye would have died a dozen deaths by my hand.
And now Victarion has a volcano arm with supernatural strength. Victarion may be stupid and a brute, but if he was going to die, then itâd feel a bit weird for Victarion to die so soon after getting it without playing some other purpose. Itâs not just this that makes me consider the possibility Victarion is the one who deals the final blow for Euron. Throughout his journey to Meereen, he begins to imitate Euron, worship Râhllor, and become more his own person, not 100% following ironborn tradition.
If he is becoming more like Euron and less like a typical ironborn brute, then itâd fit for him to become a kinslayer, having the power to finally stand up to his demonic brother and kill him. Alternately, him thinking about if he would be a kinslayer if someone else did it at his behest might suggest he has someone else kill him instead. It would be a great bit of irony that Euron, arguably the smartest Greyjoy, and the atheist of the family, sent away Victarion, the dumbest Greyjoy, to die, only for the will of Râhllor to find Victarion and give him the strength to kill his own brother.
A simple death is so incredibly fitting for a sorceror king who wishes to become an invincible god. In many ways, Euron is a deconstruction of the dark lord trope that GRRM has been critical of from Tolkien imitators. Euron is 100% a dark lord, and also has many parallels with Sauron. Both become more powerful through the use of magic. Both want to conquer Westeros/Middle-earth to rule as its god-king. They even have similar banners/flags and imagery. Compare the Eye of Sauron with Euronâs nightmarish personal sigil.
Yet, I think GRRM wants to tell us a very human lesson with Euron. He may want to become a god, believe he is a god, stronger than all the gods. But despite the blood sacrifices, extreme sadism and torment, his intent on ruling in the aftermath of a massive apocalypse as a god-king, and his confidence, Euron is, at the end of the day, still human. He is mad and ambitious but he is not all powerful or beyond mortality;
"The Horned Lord once said that sorcery is a sword without a hilt. There is no safe way to grasp it."
He is playing with forces he does not understand, and there will be a price to what he does, which is as human as you can get. He is not a god, and he can still be killed by normal mundane means. He is absolutely a terrifying demon in human skin, as close to absolute evil as anyone can be, and not to be dismissed out of hand. But he can still be brought down and killed just like anyone else, and his want for power and the consequences of his own actions will be GRRMs way of making Euron human.
Fuck an overview conclusion, I already wrote everything and I spent dozens of hours on this⌠to anyone who finished this and read every word, thank you. I will never write anything this long in my life ever again, I swear it on my grave. I hope this doesn't break anyones browser as it did mine.
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Reading Recs for Each Entity
When Magnus ended, I thought back on different media that I've enjoyed, some of them fit very neatly into the dread powers, unsettlingly so in some cases, others not so much. If you enjoyed the show for it's horror, and want more of that, then I've got a list for you.
Assume everything here is rated M and has some gore, death, and general dark themes.
Beneath the cut, because there's 15 of these fears. Feel free to add on if you like. By the way, I'm citing writers, not directors when there's a movie.
Beholding
1984 - by George Orwell: Classic surveillance society. Very boring to start off with classical lit, but it was and still is a relevant commentary on society.
Psycho-Pass - by Gen Urobuchi: Has anyone read Hobbes' 'Leviathan'? It's like if that met psychological horror. This anime engages in what it means to live in a world where crimes can be stopped before their ever committed due to the Psycho-Pass system. This system allows authorities to monitor ones emotional state and likelihood of turning violent. I think there's a brief mention of sexual violence, but it's been a hot minute since I've watched.
Panopticon Theory - by Michel Foucault: Yes, political theory. I've read it multiple times (not by choice) and it offers some interesting insights into the world of the Magnus Archives. It's greatly influenced how I regard the dread powers, that being that Smirke's 14 is incredibly limiting.
Buried
Nutty Putty Caving Incident - A real life news story. The only time I can say I've felt properly horrified and deeply unsettled. If 'Lost John's Cave' was the statement that gave you nightmares, avoid this. It's true and it's tragic.
Corruption
Fate/Zero - by Gen Urobuchi: Another anime by the Urobutcher. If you thought Jane Prentiss was excellent this is the show for you. It's excellent for all sorts of reasons, and engages with other avenues of horror but when I heard the Prentiss statement, I was brought back here. Living hives, magical evil wasp larvae writhing beneath someone's skin, it happens. Your warning is that anything bad that can happen to a child, will happen to children here. I mean it.
The Picture of Dorian Gray - by Oscar Wilde: Moral decay, and it's just a damn good read. It's not conventional Corruption material, but the corruption of one's soul in the pursuit of beauty and pleasure is somewhat fitting I should think. I like it, so it's here. Also Jonah Magnus vibes.
Dark
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - by a bunch of people: it's a movie. Not an orthodox choice but I feel the dark deals better in ignorance then the literal. Err, no spoilers, but nothing particularly bad happens, it just sort of tugs.
The Flowers - Alice Walker: A short story about innocence and ignorance. Not particularly spooky, but it hits you at the end.
Allegory of the Cave - Plato: Just a good preliminary reading that provides an alternate lens. It's not spooky, I just like it.
Desolation
All is Quiet on the Western Front - by Erich Maria Remarque: The effects of war on the youth, child soldiers, and the death of innocence. It's bleak, and miserable, but it's honest and Remarque and his family were persecuted by Nazi-Germany because the book carried 'anti-german' (anti-war) sentiments. There's a movie as well.
Pan's Labyrinth - by Guillermo del Toro: Also anti-war, with bad things happening to good people and children. A bit heavy handed with it's symbolism, but hey it's a two hour movie. Also be prepared to read subtitles. It's very good, and if you haven't seen it, I don't want to say too much.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - by Ken Kesey: There's a more popular movie version as well. Corrupt systems, cutting people down until they fit into a socially appropriate mold. It's fairly dark, and has lobotomies since that was what, the 60s? I watched this in my catholic high schools film studies class, so I don't think there's anything overly egregious. But an interesting lens for the Desolation.
The Count of Monte Cristo - by Alexandre Dumas: For a fun revenge romp. The titular count gets his revenge after everything he's ever loved has been stolen from him and looks to do the same to his betrayers. Err sexual violence happens here as well. A bit of background that might inform the reader: Dumas' father was half black and affected by the 1802 discrimination laws, causing him- a high ranking military officer to be dismissed. The precursor to Monte Cristo, 'Georges' deals more heavily in themes of colonialism and racial discrimination.
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Masque of the Red Death - by Edgar Allen Poe: You know why this is here. Warning for plague allegories and people not properly social distancing.
Nothing in the Dark - (Twilight Zone): No words needed, it's the Twilight Zone.
Death Parade - by Yuzuru Tachikawa: This is your fun suggestion. It's light for the most part, but there are scenes and moments that will absolutely hit you.
Extinction
Godzilla - A whole bunch of people: Atomic bomb fear during a time of censorship. Everything is an allegory.
Flesh
Tokyo Ghoul - by Sui Ishida: It's the most Magnus-y out of all my suggestions and I desperately want to see a crossover between them. The manga is better as the anime tends to brutalise plot points and water down the horror. Deals with becoming a cannibal, the nature of humanity, and other things. Warning for mentions of child abuse. Kaneki has a sort of - if Martin was the Archivist vibes. Not 1-1 of course, but if I had to make a comparison, that's the one.
Lamb to the Slaughter - by Roald Dahl: Arguably more slaughter, but hey I'm not giving you any warnings. I read this short story for ninth grade english, so I'm sure you can survive this one.
Hunt
Se7en - by Andrew Kevin Walker: A movie about a detective hunting serial killer. It's excellent, there's gruesome murder scenes. It's from the 90s go watch it.
Frankenstein - by Mary Shelley: From the perspective of Mr. Frankenstein it's the terror of being hunted, from the monster's perspective it's the horror of being alone. It's good, a pillar of sci-fi written by a teenager, don't snub this because it's classical lit.
The Bone Collector - by Jeremy Iacone: Another detective hunting a murderer. Also from the 90s and also excellent. Look, the 90s don't pull their punches, it's got blood and lots of it. A favourite film of mine.
Lonely
The Metamorphosis - by Franz Kafka: Turning into a big bug does not a corruption/flesh story make.
Passengers (2016)- by Jon Spaihts: I hate this movie, it's clearly a horror, but they try to pass it as a romance. Anyway, for psychological lonely horror and manipulation, this is a movie for you.
Slaughter
Go watch a classic slasher film. I don't care for senseless violence, so I don't like most of this sort of media.
Read up on a war or a riot. Learn how your nation's government discriminates and persecutes minorities historically and today.
Sweeney Todd - by Hugh Wheeler: The musical is the better known version. Some flesh horror here as well. It's not really senseless, as I think the Slaughter should be, but hey, we need substance here.
Spiral
The Giver - by Lois Lowry: A utopia that is not quite right. Read for school when I was nine, I'm sure you can all live without a warning list.
The Matrix - by the Wachowskis: Reality is an illusion, and the Universe is a hologram.
Truman Show - by Andrew Niccol: You know why this is here.
Stranger
Coraline - by Neil Gaiman: The scariest children's book. Other!Mother and all that jazz are so very Strange.
The Landlady - by Roald Dahl: Taxidermy.
Vast
Lovecraft: I'm sorry, I can only think of him. No one else is so ignorant as to be able to capture the horror of things beyond their ken.
Web
Medea - by Euripides: The God's suck, it's a Greek tragedy, bad things happen to everyone without discrimination. Children are harmed, Medea is dosed by Aphrodite, Jason is literally the worst.
Animal Farm - by George Orwell: It's anti-authoritarian and deals with the mutability of laws and how uneducated masses are sheep. . . literally. You will feel horrified, it's a short read.
There's also some children's story about a spider/snake(?) and gluttony that I've been looking for, for the past year. It's pretty similar to Mr. Spider, but the villain consumes so many victims that he becomes too large to leave his den and is blockaded in by those he terrorized, and it's heavily implied that he starves to death. For the life of me I can't remember a title, but then, it's been 15 or so years.
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