#heinrix corruption points

[cawyden-gaming]

Rogue Trader - Act 4 - Heinrix romance - Corruption points in freeze scene

There are some dialog options in the game, that will add points to a corruption counter - with 3 points it seems, Heinrix will leave the inquisition at the end and give the true love achievement.

This works for Iconoclast playthroughs (I had 4 Icono and 2 dogmatic) but might be buggy in other runs (heretical full will not work, he belongs to the companions that will leave)).

In this case, you will have this additional dialog in the freeze scene of his romance:

Afterwards you can speak with him on the bridge about him leaving the inquisition (fully voiced too).

The relevant dialog options are (help from reddit user yellowfish28 here):

Act 2 - Janus ("Why must your concern for me be wrapped up in layers of rebukes and recriminations")

Act 2 - Black Ship ("You do not always have to appear invincible. Especially around me")

Act 3 - when you meet him in the pit where he rests ("They mutilated and maimed you purely because of what you are" or "It pains me even to listen to you. I cannot imagine the agony you suffered")

Act 4 - Date (but might require already 2 corruption points to be avilable) ("We have one life. I don't want to give all of mine to the Imperium with nothing left for myself. Do you? Do you actually want it?"

To use toybox to check/change the values manually (on PC) you can find an explanation here.

Here is the full video for the freeze scene:

[mathlann]

Cas Posting Part 2 since apparently I'm not done 😅

While I'm thinking about it, my first run getting to the branding scene was just, so diabolical. Because of the order I did the companion quests, by the time Euphrates 2 rolled around Casimira was fresh off the triple-whammy of the "We Have No Future (Because My Job Comes First)" talk with Heinrix, the lethal breakup with Beloved Lady Saurbeck (she loved Chaos more than Cas), and the "I Wont Be A Casual Dalliance (My Job is Corrupt and Falling Apart, Baby Come Back)" Breakup with Heinrix all in a short span. And so, to have come off the Hell that is Eufrates II and see a Marazhai event pop up I was fully expecting another, "oh just so you know, I'm leaving you at some point" talk, since of all Cas' relationships that was the one that was explicitly just for kicks. Especially when he starts off with the whole "Humans put too much stock in friendship, loyalty, and love (🤢)" preamble (which, great thing to tell somebody coming off their second breakup in like, a month btw), I was genuinely caught off guard at what he was actually there for? Like oh this isn't a breakup he wants her to... brand him? Ugh okay Athletics skill don't fail her....oh, he's not seriously putting up a fight he's letting her take the knife.... Like, it's very fucked up in the "you should have another way of expressing commitment without seriously injuring each other" but also considering Mr. True Aeldari can and later does cause a huge fuss with own Kabal over letting a human do that to him, it's also very sweet? Like, ew, feelings but also at the same time that was probably the most loving thing that'd happened to her all game up to that point? Terrible people, terrible together!

[harrenhalyuri]

Went to bed at 1:30 am because I was determined to rush the end of act 3 since I wanted to see marzipain in the voidship. However i'm SO morose over losing pasqal that I'm seriously considering rolling back to an earlier save and... go through all that again... sigh

well I fucked up and I don't wanna continue without pasqal because my gut tells me this might fuck me in the future and soft lock me out of something important (besides pasqal's own quest ofc). So back to the Pit we'll go tonight

more RT OC infodumping below eeeeeee

new mortred lore I've cooked up:

i'm sold on the idea of making house dagoth part of the navis nobilite. It's a perfect fit considering their uh.... practices.... and noble status. Voryn/Dagoth Ur would be the Novator at that point. When mortred was still a nobody, he caught the Novator's eye lmao no pun intended and they got involved. The reason that led to everything falling apart and mortred having to kill him is still unclear, I like the idea of voryn falling to corruption however I'm afraid that might lead to the entire house being exterminated by the inquisition lmao BUT let's go with that for now

so Voryn and his diehard cult followers were overthrown, with mortred dealing the last blow personally. The house was wiped out.... at least that's what everyone believes :)

I've decided to throw Senya in this AU, so she's the last Dagoth. She was born less than a year after voryn's death and mortred immediately gave her up to someone else's care because another one of his defining traits is that he's always a deadbeat father out of trauma lmao. He made sure to provide her a comfortable life but that's as far as it goes. She's likely not even aware of his existence (think deckard and his daughter in blade runner 2049)

now why all this is interesting for the plot of rogue trader in specific:

cassia: it explains why mortred is so overprotective of her from the get-go. every time he looks at this white-haired red-eyed girl it feels like a knife in his chest because he's forced to think of his own daughter :) unconsciously projecting senya on cassia

calcazar: currently obsessed with the idea of xavier being the one who was in charge of dealing with the Dagoth cult back in calixis. Mortred nearly had a heart attack when he saw xavier at his coronation party... back in the day he was likely conscripted into spying for the Inquisition and in the end xavier used him as a pawn to end voryn, so his presence sets mortred on edge and being threatened did little to soothe his nerves. But so far xavier is unaware of senya's existence

heinrix: OOF this one... mortred was definitely tense and ill at ease with an agent of the inquisition breathing down his neck, especially since he feared heinrix was aware of who he was (beyond being a calixian crime lord that is) and what he had done. But it turns out heinrix was not aware of mortred's involvement with the cult and over time mortred relaxes around him to the point they become friends. Mortred's one-sided crush on him goes nowhere but it's nice to have someone you can rely on, and heinrix is fond of him too. Tension begins with mortred getting more and more permissive with xenos (first with yrliet and the janus situation) and might reach a breaking point post-act 3 as mortred refuses to punish yrliet and keeps marazhai in his retinue while growing uncomfortably close to him. Idk how everything will unfold from there on because I have yet to start heinrix's personal quest but I'm thinking that somewhere down the line he'll dig up mortred's past and find out about senya's existence, which will put him in a spot where he has to decide between snitching to xavier or keeping his friend's secret

[noelle666]

Noelle (Please note: I am not trying to make Theodora bad - I see her as a rational and strict person. Also, I thought it would be a short collection of thoughts but I ended up writing something like a short fanfic-ish thing. So I probably write my thoughts only about Noelle because, well, too much text. Sorry, Maarden, maybe I'll make another post about you).

I think that Theodora wouldn't actually need an Ecclesiarchy priest in her retinue, plus she wouldn't really like Noelle because they are too different: Noelle is too soft and merciful. Also, Theodora would see Noelle as another puritan trying to appeal to her conscience if she would do something "objectionable to the Imperium".

Noelle would've spent most of her time near medbay since she is a medic/sister of mercy, but from time to time (and if it is required) she would've been presented at the deck. She agreed to travel to von Valancuis voidship because she thoughts it is her duty to be there (since she is a relative of Theodora) and also the chaplan who was her superior gave her an advice to use this opportunity and blessed her. Deep inside she knew that traveling with the Rogue Trader could've opened many opportunities and show many new places, but on the other it could've crossed Noelle's believes.

Theodora would've liked to know Noelle's opinion on what to do with corrupted Rykad Minoris, but the final decision she would've maid herself and, I think, she would've agreed with Heinrix to execute Exterminatus, which would've caused an argue between two women in the end of which Theodora would've said something like "You've never seen true horrors of warp, sometimes you cannot save people if there is too much at stake. People like you die too young and too fast, so pull yourself together, otherwise I already have another candidate".

So, even though Noelle is a quiet, peaceful and non-conflict person, she could've not forgiven herself for letting thousands of people die. Noelle would've informed Theodora she has no more claim to the "throne of the Rogue Trader", she sees Edelthrad as the best choice possible and humbly asks to allow her to join Followers of Saint Drusus on Footfall (yes, it may sound like a decision made not ratinally and because of emotions, but, well, let's say Noelle is a person who can understand pretty quickly whether or not she can find a way to "communicate" with other people, and Theodora with her difficult temper, is the kind of person Noelle would like to avoid). Lord-captain would've decided she has no desire to chain Noelle, but the decision is unpleasant nonetheless: she would've allowed the priestess go. Since Heinrix had business on Footfall too, he, as a gentleman, volunteered to accompany Noelle (plus they would've spend some time on their way to the destination points together anyway). They would've had a conversation about different things (not about the decision Noelle made or something related to the recent events) and in the ende the priestess would've expressed her gratitude and a desire to meet and speak with the interrogator again if they both have a chance to meet (there is nothing romantical, but as I said above, Noelle can see people she can "communicate" and Heinrix is definitely one of them).

After finishing with all her deeds on Footfall, Theodora would've rethink her decision on Noelle: yes, "the girl" is too stuborn, too different, too soft, but at the same time she can provide different perspective on things and see and hear what Lord-captain cannot. It would be a positive and interesting esperience. Theodora would've said to Heinrix: "Since you a part of my retinue, I have an order for you, Master van Calox. Bring this stubborn girl back. I understand she may say "no" right away, hence I am sending you on this mission. You've spent some time with her on Footfall, you observed her on my ship and, moreover, you are the agent of the Inquisition. The best person who can read people like books and study them fast enought to find their weak points and peculiarities. I am sure you will suceed convincing her".

And so Heinrix would've gone to the Followers of Saint Drusus to learn Noelle is serving at something like an infirmary. They would've talked a little bit, Noelle would've been happy to see the interrogator, but they would've been interrupted: a couple of wounded people need help (Footfall is a criminal place, after all, and sometimes civilians may accidentally find themselves between fightning gangs - this is what happened here). Noelle would've quickly strated her work, giving orders (although all her "orders" she would accompany with "please") to her fellow medics, speaking softly and kindly to the injured making sure to calm them down as much as possible. Such view would've reminded Heinrix of his days in the Imperial Guard (althought the atmosphere there was different and no one would babysit wounded soldiers). I think such episode could've been one of the options to make Heinrix more merciful.

In the end the plan of Theodora would've worked and Noelle could've not say "no" to Heinrix, so... yes, at some point Noelle would've become a person who could work as "softener" and diplomat from time to time.

Hey Lord Captains! A question

If Theodora von Valancius was alive and well and there were no chain of events leading to Kunrad's betrayal and her death, who your RT would be in her retinue?

What their functionality could be as her heir and what kind of work could they perform aboard the von Valancius flagman? Their role?

I'm curious and want to see something 👀

Let's share some AUs!

[cawyden-gaming]

Rogue Trader - Act 4 - Heinrix + Guard difference (kill/spared) and corruption points

In the scene between Heinrix and the guard on Footfall the guard can survive or die depending on RTs dialog options and if you made Heinrix merciful or not.

There is also a check regarding the corruption points that affects the dialog options.

Guard alive/killed

You have three options when Heinrix attacks the guard:

"Heinrix, no! Stop!"

In this case Heinrix will not kill the guard.

Not sure if this is a bug or because I was playing around with toybox but I also do not see a condition for this dialog option to appear. Even when I hardened Heinrix via toybox (etude InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome) I had this option available and the text said I made him merciful.

"Enough, Heinrix."

In this case it depends if you made Heinrix more merciful or not. If he is merciful, he will not kill the guard,

but if he was hardened, he will kill the guard.

Silently wait what happens

If you select this, then even a merciful Heinrix will kill the guard.

Corruption point check

Depending on the corruption points you get a different dialog response from Heinrix.

With 2 or more points you get the following answer from him:

This does not end the dialog but gives you more options:

With 1 or less points you get this response and the dialog ends.

[cawyden-gaming]

Rogue Trader - Act 4 - Heinrix romance - Date - love confession

In Heinrix date scene you can get him to confess his love for you - normally he would do this in his freeze romance scene after Euphrates II.

During the date you need to take the "Void.Take.You" option to get there (any of the three available options lead to it):

The dialog option "We have one life. I don't want to give all of mine to the Imperium with nothing left for myself. Do you? Do you actually want it?" gives you one corruption point (of required 3) if you try to get Heinrix to leave the inquisition later (at the freeze scene).

Please note: While it is called corruption point it does not allow Heinrix to stay with you if you go for a full heretic run.

You can also tell him that you love him (-> this line is only available if he confessed his love to you. If you did not take the Void.Take.You option to get his confession it is not available)

[cawyden-gaming]

Act 4 - Heinrix 2nd romance scene - spoiler

This is about the "freeze" scene. I checked it again regarding the corruption counter. and possible additional/other dialog options.

Corruption points:

If you have between 3 and 4 points, you will get one additional dialog option "I want to help you. Just tell me how." to save Heinrix even without skill check.

It will also like the other two options with skill check then play the heresy etude which means additional dialog from Heinrix that he will leave the inquisition.

If you have less than 3 points, you get the normal etude where the dialog option is missing and the two skill check options do not feature the dialog about him leaving the inquisition.

Interestingly, according to toybox there should be other options there too where you can control if Heinrix will leave the inquisition or not even with all the corruption points. But I couldn't see them in game so maybe cut content?

"The imperium is not worth your life. Stay with me - we will be happy." -> Heinrix will leave the inquisition

2. "Don't throw away your life's work. We will find a way to be together - at least some of the time." -> Heinrix will not leave the inquisition

3. "You decide. I refuse to take on this responsibility." -> Heinrix will leave the inquisition

Additional dialog line for psykers

If you have a psy rating, you get an additional dialog line:

[cawyden-gaming]

Rogue Trader - Heinrix romance - flirting differences (devil vs. closeness)

With Heinrix you can either flirt aggressively with him which will increase the "devil" counter or you are doing no or very light flirting which will increase the "closeness" counter. This affects in some cases his dialog.

Act 1 - First talk after he is recruited

Devil:

Two options for Devil - one at the start and one later. Both start the romance. The second one ("A little more..." excludes the closeness option.

Closeness:

Starts the romance. This option excludes the devil option "A little more...."

You can also start his romance by talking to him on the bridge after his recruitment. Both options start his romance but doesn't seem to count for the devil or closeness counter.

2. Act 2 - Footfall, when Heinrix returns (at the docks)

Both options can be taken, they do not exclude each other.

Devil:

Closeness:

3. Act 2 - Janus after dealing with the Governor / end of main quest

Devil:

With 3 devil points (or more) before starting the talk you get another response from him:

After this devil option there is another one available (excludes the closeness and corruption point options)

Closeness:

This option exludes the devil and corruption point options

There is also an option to increase his corruption counter (if you want him to leave the inquisition). It does not increase devil/closeness counters.

3. Act 2 - Conversation after his personal quest (in Kiava Gamma) is finished

Devil:

This line excludes the closeness option on top ("You can relate of course..."

The question regarding his romantic preferences has two versions.

If you have less than 3 devil points you get this answer:

If you have at least 3 devil points you get this one:

If you move to the regicide board you have additional options.

This one exludes the other two options that allow you to play regicide with him - so if you take this line you won't be able to do that unfortuantely.

If you have 4 or more devil points you can get a different ending talk with him for this scene (also works with "Running away, are you?")

Closeness:

First dialog option ("You can relate...") counts as closeness and unlocks other dialog for the second closeness option

The "Tell me a secret" line counts as closeness and the answer depends on if you took the first closeness option (in this case you get +2 closeness points)

or not (and you get only + 1 closeness point)

Another closeness option hides behind the question for his favourite food - if you use the smile option it increases the closeness counter

At the regicide board you can have a different ending dialog with him if you have at least 4 closeness points with him:

4. Act 2 - Dragonus ceremony talk

Devil:

Excludes the closeness option

And here seems to be a bug - kissing Heinrix does not increase the devil counter as one would expect, but instead holding his hands:

Closeness:

Excludes the first devil option

5. Act 3 - Start talking with him on the bridge about what happened at the ceremony

Devil:

There are only two devil responses here - I think this is another bug.

I will update this post if I find more, but the later (romance) scenes with him doesn't really seem to use the devil/closeness counters anymore.

Addition

-> You can use the toybox mod (on PC) to check the devil/closeness counters and to change them (or for other things, like seeing dialog options even if you do not meet the criteria or reset your skill points...)

(Mod on Nexusmods), install as instructed.

In game e.g. during dialog press CTRL + F10

For the devil/closeness counters go to "Search 'n Pick" tab and on the left side to "Flags". You can search for "Heinrix_R" to show his romance flags and change the values (don't forget to save before closing the toybox screen)

[cawyden-gaming]

Rogue Trader - (mostly) Heinrix related romance and general information, toybox flags + etudes

Heinrix romance related

Toybox - general and Heinrix specific information

Devil/closeness flirt

Heinrix romance - flirting differences (devil vs. closeness)

Corruption points

Act 4 - Heinrix romance - Overview over Corruption Points

Act 4 - Heinrix + Guard difference (kill/spared) and corruption points

Act 4 - Heinrix 2nd romance scene

Questions

Janus corruption dialog popup when

Heinrix quest flag/etudes + affected endings

Act 4 Date trigger

Toybox Navigator Points

Dialog screenshots/videos

Heinrix - amasec and wine

Act 1 - shard options and affected Heinrix dialog

Act 2 - Black Ship - Heinrix romance specific dialog

Act 3 - Heinrix joining party dep. on romance

Act 4 - Heinrix romance - Date - love confession

Act 4 - Heinrix romance scene if he was not in Commoragh

Act 4 - Heinrix romance specific talk after freeze scene (video bridge talk)

Not romance related

warp event - Heinrix, Argenta and Abelard

Act 1 - Idira prophecies about companions

Act 1 - Heinrix changed voice over in intro

Act 1 - Heinrix recruitment - disguise

Act 1 - Heinrix and Evayne in Prison (Evayne unharmed)

Act 1 - Rykad Minoris - Ritual Chamber + Heinrix dialog

Act 1 - Heinrix dialog at Cassias recruitment quest

Act 1 - Heinrix - Triumph and Psyker

Act 2 - Heinrix add. dialog for iconoclast act 1 ending

Act 2 - Heinrix Footfall (interactions)

Act 2 - Footfall - Heinrix dialog - Drink in Cantina

Act 2 - Janus - Heinrix and Abelard

Act 2 - Kiava Gamma mission talk with Heinrix - additional/hidden dialog line

Act 2 - Kiava Gamma mission briefing

Act 2 - Ceremony - joining Inquisition - affected Endings

Act 3 - Heinrix + Achilleas/underlings spoiler

Act 3 - Heinrix + companions interactions in Commoragh

Act 3 - Heinrix, Yrilet and Marazhai versions (anat. opera)

Act 4 - Xavier Calcazar - Heretic > 2 and Heinrix reaction

Other

Turns and Cycles (time)

Act 2 - Inquisition Signet Ring color

Xavier Calcazar appreciation (spoilers act 2-5 + ending)

Interesting details (Time spent/Theodora/von Valancius dynasty)

[cawyden-gaming]

Rogue Trader - Toybox - General and Heinrix specific information

You can use toybox to check and change values e.g. if you want try out or fix things or help with the game (e.g. reskill without cost etc.).

For the Heinrix romance you can find the values for the closeness and devil flirt counters here and you can influence the romance status (start/complete...).

Toybox:

(Mod on Nexusmods) or get the newest version from GitHub: Here.

After patch you usually have to update - just get the newest version from GitHub and overwrite the existing toybox folder in your game path.

Installation

Install as instructed on Nexusmods or as explained here:

unzip

rename folder (at start and end is a zero) to: 0ToyBox0

Put it in the UnityModManager folder for the game und AppData e.g. if you installed it under hard drive C it would be -> C:\Users\\AppData\LocalLow\Owlcat Games\Warhammer 40000 Rogue Trader\UnityModManager

Please keep in mind that the AppData folder is usually hidden and has to be displayed first (check your folder settings) and you need to have started the game first once to have the path available

-> To call it in game press CTRL + F10

Bag of Tricks

The first tab has a lot of quality of life things that might be helpful to you.

set a key bind to instant kill enemies (if you are in a hurry)

give you resources like reputation points etc.

suppress jealousy + gender limitations for romance

suppress conviction restriction for dialog

etc.

Party

Here you can set (under Stats) your abilities and conviction points. You might need to decrease some points first and then save to allow another conviction to increase above the threshold (I think 45 points for stage 2?).

Oh and free respec - but not from origin - for that you might want to try the Level Up tab but no idea if this works.

Dialog & NPCs

Here you can see in some cases if you require a certain threshold (e.g. devil points) to see a conversation or if something is triggered (like here Start etude (Heinrix) would start his romance)

Etudes/Search'n Pick

For the Etudes you can go to the Search'n Pick tab and on the left side check for Etudes and then enter in the left search "Rom" or "Romances" to get the romance etudes displayed.

If you see "Start" it hasn't started yet. If you see"Complete" and "Unstart" it has started. Pressing on "Start" should start the romance.

E.g. - here is the situation after the first talk (in RTs quarters) with Heinrix where I did not use any of the dialog lines to start his romance:

And here if I have the bridge talk with him where I choose the "lonely" line to start his romance:

For the devil/closeness counters go to "Search 'n Pick" tab and on the left side to "Flags". You can search for "Heinrix_R" to show his romance flags and change the values (don't forget to save before closing the toybox screen)

Corruption points

The flag CorruprionInterrogator (-> please check the spelling - it is not corrupTion but corrupRion) is the one responsible to make Heinrix leave the inquisition (if romanced) see info here how to get the points in game).

If you missed a dialog option or got a bug you can use toybox to manually set the counter.

You need value 2 for the date scene in act 4 to get additional dialog to get another corruption point. For the 2nd romance scene ("freeze" scene) you need 3 points for Heinrix to leave the inquisition.

At some point it will set etude Heresy for Heinrix to leave the inquisition. So if you are very late in game deciding to have him stay, it might be that the corruption point counter is not taken into account anymore when you change it. In this case check the Heresy etude - if it is active he will stay, if not then he will return to the inquisition.

Act 4

1st romance scene: Date

Trigger is explained here.

Etude name: QuietEvening

2nd romance scene: Freeze

Should trigger after doing the main quest on Euphrates II when you leave the planet. There is currently a bug where it does not work, then you can use toybox as workaround and press the play button to play the scene directly (-> but NOT on Euphrates II, go to your ship first).

Jealous scene

You can trigger it (even if you do not romance anyone else, just to see how Heinrix reacts) with toybox too:

Look for the etude Jealousy_ktc and start it - it should trigger the jealous scene (in my case I set it right before leaving Euphrates II and got it after Heinrix's freeze/romance scene).

-> Don't forget to save before closing the toybox screen if you want to keep the changed values.

Heinrix quest flags and endings

Please see here for some Heinrix specific quest flags and how it affects the endings.

Romance related scenes:

Act 1:

- first talk after recruitment + bridge talk afterwards (-> some lines are available in later acts but not all and there are romance related lines (e.g. asking him if he is lonely) in there too)

Act 2:

- Footfall docks (when he returns). You can also have afterwards a mission talk with him but I haven't found romance related lines in there.

- Pillars of Viridice (black ship on ice planet -> has to be done in act 2! If you take other companions with you he will get interrupted by one of them but you can go back to the ship after the scene to get your crew for the later fights in the ship)

- Janus (end of quest after you deal with the governor he will initiate the talk when you leave her office)

- Talk after his quest on Kiava Gamma (in your study + bridge talk afterwards. You can unlock playing (repeatedly) regicide with him)

- Dragonus ceremony (talk with him before you leave for your chambers)

Act 3:

- At the beginning talk on bridge about what happened at the ceremony

- In Commoragh when you find him and in the pit (or you can do Commoragh without him by taking him not with you to the quest where you get captured, then you will get a romance scene at the start of Act 4)

Act 4

- Beginning of Act 4 talk (about Commoragh - just a bridge talk if he was there or a romance scene if he wasn't and you unlock the option to sleep with him whenever you like)

- Early Act 4 during travel (date) (after his companion quest?)

- After Euphrates 2 (optional jealous scene) and romance scene (if you have three or more corruption points you get additional dialog in his romance scene and a bridge talk option afterwards -> this has nothing to do with the conviction, if you go full heretic he will leave you before Euphrates 2! These corruption points are only for him to leave the inquisition to stay with the RT.

Act 5

- Before end planet talk on bridge (you can click several times on him and you will get new dialog but the main romance related one is the first one).

[cawyden-gaming]

Have you done a post about harshness/mercy for heinrix/where to find those modifiers in toybox?

No, I haven't. But since you are asking, I actually did now.

That is going to be a long post....spoilers obviously, all acts + endings.

Summary:

His act 2 quest in Kiava Gamma affects the etudes InterrogatorQuestGoodOutcome and InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome - both affect his act 4 quest and the endings.

His act 4 quest has him acting differently depending on these etudes and sets / unlocks doubtful/stoic Heinrix flags- these can affect the ending too.

Here the toybox screenshots

Look under Etudes or Search'n Pick + Etudes and for "InterrogatorQuest" to get both Etudes. Romance can be started under Etudes too - etude name is just Heinrix (two entries).

Look under Search'n Pick + Flags and for "Heinrix" to see his DoubtfulHeinrix and StoicHeinrix flags.

Long story:

Harsh/mercy counter -> InterrogatorQuestGood/EvilOutcome

So far I noticed the Harsh/Mercy counters for Heinrix first quest on Kiava Gamma. When you speak with the Techpriest and when you encounter the mutants your dialog options set the harsh/mercy counter for Heinrix. This affects his response - if you have a higher harsh counter and then ask him for mercy/iconoclast he might not follow your request...

Here the tech priest dialog option:

Here for the mutants (it also checks the current value for the flags):

And here the effect of the flags if interacting with the cogitator:

Here in toybox it looks like the iconoclast option triggers the InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome. But: I tried it and took it and still I got the good outcome. So you can take it.

The outcome will set the Etudes InterrogatorQuestGoodOutcome and InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome which affect his endings (-> depending on other conditions - if he is romanced and leave the inquisition it seems it doesn’t have an effect).

2. Doubtful/stoic Heinrix Flags

There are also the two doubtful/stoic Heinrix flags. They are set in his act 4 quest (Emelina) depending on your choice. His responses here are also affected by the InterrogatorQuestEvil/GoodOutcome Etudes.

Depending on your dialog choice (Emelina asks you what you would have done) you will unlock doubtful or stoic flag:

His dialog is also different depending on the InterrogatorQuestGoodOutcome or InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome.

In the InterrogatorQuestGoodOutcome he will kill Emelina (directly)

in InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome he will keep her alive to interrogate her and to extract information.

3. Endings in different combinations

I used my run (iconoclast/sided with Xavier but he gets killed in the epilog) and played around with the values. Here are the endings if non romanced:

InterrogatorQuestGoodEnding + Doubtful flag (unlocked):

InterrogatorQuestEvilEnding + Doubtful flag (unlocked):

InterrogatorQuestGoodEnding + Stoic (unlocked):

InterrogatorQuestEvilEnding + Stoic (unlocked):

InterrogatorQuestGoodEnding - no doubtful/stoic

- > same as stoic

InterrogatorQuestEvilEnding - no doubtful/stoic

-> same as stoic

Romanced

If he stays with RT:

No difference found between interrogator evil/good outcome or stoic/doubtful points if he stays with you (requires min. 3 corruption points -> starts etude Heresy). There is also an ending where he is not Master of Whispers - not clear yet how it is triggered.

If he remains with the Inquisition:

You get the romance slide that you have a long distance relationship until you both die and additionally the ending slides for what he does while he is in the inquisition (depending on the flags/etudes set in his quests).

I hoped this answers your question. There are more conditions for the endings of course, such as Xavier not dying for example. From what I heard, making Jae a shadow baron might also help Heinrix to stay alive when he would otherwise be assassinated....

[cawyden-gaming]

I'm doing Heinrix's romance and I just wanted to thank you for having such detailed posts and guides!

I missed one corruption dialogue (Janus one), but I don't want to bring him to Commoragh and use that dialogue that gives you the 2nd corruption point you need to then get the third in act 4, because I think the romance scene with him on the deck if you don't bring him along to Commoragh is way more romantic, so I added a corruption point on Toybox. Thanks for your detailed explanations I was able to do this and get the scene I wanted :)

Oh, thank you very much and for letting me now!

I am glad I can help and I am very curious about everything Heinrix related myself. I love that we have these little differences depending on our choices and it is fun to check them out!

At the moment I am doing these experimental runs but I will then use the info myself for a canon run. And toybox is a great help here.

I am torn for my canon run between taking him to Commoragh and leaving him on the ship. I would prefer to spare him the torture. I also like the alternate romance scene and him being so worried about us (poor guy though - we disappear at least two times more due to warp event and other companions quest) but I also like his romance in Commoragh, if you lean against him and do not take the initiative- how he holds your chin and then kisses you ❤️. And him opening up more but I think while not on screen he would tell the RT later too even if he hadn’t been with her to Commoragh.

Ah well, luckily still some time for me to decide - I was also thinking about doing an „alternate reality“ run where the same RT was not born psyker (as I want her to be on my canon run) and then have some (minor) differences due to that.

But for me personally I need happy endings (yes I know that fits perfectly with warhammer universe *irony off*) but we do get that (mostly) with Heinrix and this was very important for me. He and his romance is the reason I bought and play the game and I let Owlcat know in every survey (if they ask about it or not).

Sorry, I got distracted here…. I just love this game and especially Heinrix and his romance so much!

Thank you again for reaching out!

[cawyden-gaming]

Do you know what exactly the flags in Toybox are you need to set in order to get the Master of Whispers ending for Heinrix? I want to do a run where he stays on the ship for Commorragh, but I know if I do that I miss out on at least one corruption point.

Hi!

Of course, etude CorruprionInterrogator (that is not a writing mistake, there is a r instead of a t in the name).

Just fyi: you do NOT need him with you in act 3 to get this ending even without toybox. You only need 2 points for his date in act 4 and then get there the 3rd one.

For toybox look here in the post under corruption points:

You need at least 2 points for an additional dialog option to appear in his first romance scene in act 4 which gives another point and then at least 3 points before the second romance scene (after Euphrates mission).

So just set the counter at least at the start of act 4 or earlier to 3 and you should be fine.

You can still take Heinrix to the black ship to get a point (go with him alone then he won't be interrupted by the others) and then you can go back to the shuttle before the fight if you don't like to do the mission or want other companions.

And the other point you can get on Janus. Just get him in your party at the end when you want to talk to the Governor - you might need to have him present in the one fight then there too, I suppose you can't change the companions at this point.

If you don't mind having him present for the one Janus fight (you get a romance conversation afterwards as soon as you leave the Governors office) you can get 2 points with him for his MoW ending.

You do not need to have him with you in act 3 (he does have nice romance content there), If you have 2 corruption points and then get the 3rd from his date scene you get the MoW ending.

[cawyden-gaming]

Rogue Trader - Act 2 Black Ship - Heinrix romance

This is the (unfortunately not voiced) dialog with Heinrix if he is alone with RT on the black ship (Pillars of Viridice system).

Please note that it only seems to be working in act 2 not later.

If you have other team members with you, they will interrupt Heinrix.

There is a fight later however, so I would recommend to leave after the scene and to get the full team.

The dialog option "You do not always have to appear invincible..." is also counting towards Heinrix corruption points (if you want to get him to leave the inquisition later).

[cawyden-gaming]

Where is the black ship to trigger heinrix' second corruption?

It is in the system Pillars of Veridice. It is a crashed imperial ship.

You need to do it in act 2 to get the romance related dialog and corruption point.

If you go with Heinrix alone you get a little more dialog with him because the other companions will interrupt him (you can still get the corruption point).

There are fights ahead however, so maybe after the talk it might be better to go back and get your full crew and then explore the rest.

I think there is an athletic check at the start and maybe a trap at the beginning (not sure about that one). But unless you play on higher difficulties shouldn’t be that much of a problem if you are alone with Heinrix. There are some other checks like logic, medicae, demolition�� but you can ignore them until you have your full crew with you.

[cawyden-gaming]

When does the corruption dialogue pop up onJanus, I finished the planet a bit ago and realized I never saw the dialogue option pop up

When you finish the main quest on Janus (if you have been to the jungle and dealt with the rebellion there) and then return to the palace to confront the governor and don’t let her continue (heretic option) you have a fight next and then leave her office/room you should directly get a dialog triggered with Heinrix where he asks you if you know what you are doing.

It doesn’t seem to trigger if you speak with her alone and chose the heretic option.

But if triggered, this is the dialog where you can get one corruption point for him.

Here are some screenshots:

This is the start of the dialog:

There is a perception check - if you succeed, you realise that Heinrix is worried about you, if not then you are asking if he is lecturing you

He should then tell you what it means to be a Rogue Trader etc. (see screenshot below) and this is where you get the option to ask "Why must your concern for me be wrapped up in layers of rebukes and recriminations?" -> this gives the corruption point.

It also adds additional dialog to Heinrix act 4 romance scene (the "Damn it..." line: