#he's in his late 20s like this guy is a fully grown adult but at the wrong angle he just doesn't look it
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My Rook + Rookanis photo dump because I'm going through my gallery
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This is one of my favorite photos I have from the entire game ngl. Like 1) it's just pretty, but 2) my Rook, Cassian, carries a lot of guilt for what happened at Weisshaupt, so getting Lavendal to bloom again was a big, really surprising thing for him. And in the cutscene with Antoine and Evka, there's this moment where Rook turns to leave and (for me,) Lucanis stands up and just kind of looks after him, like he's concerned. So this fits with that Imo because my Rook doesn't openly express his upset feelings very much, so this is his moment of just looking at what they all managed to do and letting himself feel it before putting that away again, and Lucanis just waiting for him. They don't talk about it or admit that's what it was, but it's Lucanis' way of being there without crowding him.
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This one is the first real mission Cassian had been on with Lucanis solo (other than the Treviso market) and I think he's trying to piece together what he's seeing of Lucanis with the stories he's heard of like the Demon of Vyrantium through the other Crows. This guy is the feared magekiller, but he's also grocery shopping for the team, gets excited about wyvern daggers, loves coffee, is poetic and sweet, like none of it is what he expected so I think Cassian at this point is still trying to figure it out. I also love this lighting for Lucanis even if it washes Cassian out😭
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A bunch of random screenshots and live Harding reaction
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#ramblings#rookanis#Rook cassian de riva#veilguard photomode#datv#Some of the photos I've taken of Lucassian are great except that Cassian looks like he has such a baby face in them#he's in his late 20s like this guy is a fully grown adult but at the wrong angle he just doesn't look it#like father like son I guess. If I get confused for a highschooler he can get confused for being 22/23
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I finally sat down and did a ref of Andrew Murdock Smith, the bitter exes stuntdevil clone son. Big thanks to my friends redfingrs and cowumbo-uwu for helping me fix up the design and finalize it. (Full character turnaround here)
DO NOT TAG AS M/CU
More info and art under cut
Andrew came from a shitpost What If idea of George obtaining the piece of the criminal cowboy DD suit that Johnny ghost rider damaged that contained Matt's blood and dead skin cells to create a clone son with his and Matt's DNA. The guy has connections and was able to obtain drugs specifically made to trick Matt's powers, why would he NOT know a scientist that can clone people. Made it into a way less-shitposty idea where George did that not only to get revenge on Matt but to have a true Stunt Master successor.
Andrew was made physically and mentally a grown adult in his mid-late 20's, but George still raised him for a bit. He tricks Andrew into believing that his other father, Daredevil, was a megalomaniac that was too dangerous to be around and that he needed to be put down, despite the news showing him as a hero. George showed Andrew "how Daredevil really is" with evidence of Matt's criminal cowboy days and even the shadowlands incident. He also convinced Andrew that he should the one to replace Matt as Daredevil while also being a Stunt Master successor. Eventually, Andrew got sick and tired of George because George sucks so bad as a parent, so he ran off to start his mercenary life. With enough training, he gained the name Infrared and goes after Daredevil. However, Andrew found out that DD had trained another vigilante before named Blindspot. So he decides to go after Sam first just to test him and get an idea of what to expect from fighting Matt. Andrew shows up randomly to challenge Sam many times until one fight led to Sam putting the pieces together.
After that particular exchange, Andrew finally goes after Matt. Sam had trouble finding/contacting Matt to ask questions, but Andrew got to Matt first. As explained in one of my late night ramble posts, Andrew had this idea of Matt in his head, expecting him to be arrogant, cruel, and downright malicious. The Daredevil that George described aligned more with how Matt acted during his criminal cowboy days, so Andrew was fully expecting that. He wasn't expecting Daredevil who refused to fight back after learning the truth, and wanted to help him instead. That shattered Andrew's world view and made him leave.
Later on, he comes around and tolerates Matt and his attempts at being a parent. As for Sam, they act like rivals. Sam can't stand his ass and wants to beat the shit out of him for all the trouble/injuries he's caused and Andrew just likes to annoy him and fights him for fun. Horrid stuntdevil offspring.
Andrew uses a kusarigama bc he thought it was similar to batons but sharper (and I thought it would look cool leave me alone). He also uses pistols and other types of guns, but mostly for his merc work rather than his I'm-going-to-fight-vigilantes-for-fun work.
Also here's his motorcycle:
#marvel comics#daredevil#infrared#blindspot#andrew murdock smith#matt murdock#samuel chung#bitter exes stuntdevil#trashart#character design#has alt text#tone frequency
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rain code age headcanons because i have literally only ever been choosing ages based on what's funniest but now i wanna cast away my grand layers of irony and be genuine for a moment. also. this goes pretty in depth so be prepped for the long haul when you click read more lmao.
spoilers for the whole game below and it's because of one specific character iykyk
Yakou - this man has the soul of a guy in his late 40s going through what would be his midlife crisis if not for the fact that he's fully aware he passed the midpoint years ago. but that soul is trapped in the body of a guy who doesnt look a day older than 28. what moisturizer does he use? i doubt he even uses anything other than that 13 in 1 shampoo. anyway, i think he's 32.
Halara - 26. nothing really to justify this other than they've got that mid 20s swag but 25 didn't feel right. adult enough to be as competent as they are yet young enough to look like that. moving on.
Desuhiko - 19. i think he's the youngest of the NDA because. well. idk man have you read his dialogue? he's got a whole lot of growing to do and is still very lost on his direction in life. he's giving 'bitch fresh outta high school (or in this case, detective training) and relishing in his freshly obtained freedom."
Vivia - 28? yeah i got nothing for this i am going purely on vibes here. 28 just feels right.
Fubuki - 23. she's clearly still a bit young but is also clearly a grown ass adult who wasn't raised right so i think this makes for a happy medium, especially if she's already been on some worldwide adventures n shit before the game. works out quite swimmingly methinks.
Kurumi - 18. for my personal comfort bc we'll get to yuma later but im not gonna sit here and ignore the way the game constantly grovels at the audience's feet to ship them so id rather she not be any younger than this. anyway, more about her: she tends to hold her own as an informant with more competence, maturity, and effecience than most of the NDA. but she also has a pretty childish black and white view on things, like believing her beloved detectives are always right (girl if you were real you would be ENTRENCHED in stan culture oml do NOT get into minecraft youtubers) but i've... seen 18 year olds on the internet that are exactly the same so whatever
Aetheria girls - putting them all at 17-18 because, based on honorifics, they are treated as upperclassmen by their peers in the Japanese dub. i think waruna is the youngest and kurane is the eldest.
Yomi - 25. he has that vibe. old enough to be taken seriously as an adult but young enough to act like That™. yknow?
Martina - 32. she's giving older woman sexy librarian vibes and generally carries herself with a certain level of poise and maturity but is also a freak in a way that can best be explained by being a woman in her 30s. not elaborating on this
Swank - 41. to me he's like those awful surly businessmen who go to cabaret clubs to drink and smoke their office job woes away and cheat on their wives. but he also has extreme mafia boss swag about it so i kinda love him for that. dunno what this has to do with age tho. moving on.
Seth - 22 because he's giving youngest brother. i think he's the youngest of the peacekeepers in general. guillaume definitely bullies him about this.
Dominic - 34. bro is built like a jojo character what else do you want me to say. he's still got that youthfulness about him that makes me think he's still not going through his midlife crisis, so i wouldn't place him any older
Guillaume - 23. guillaume is so girlypop manic pixie dream girl core that she's definitely got the energy of someone who is young but also strikes the balance of being someone who has a job and a mortgage. dunno how she does it. id like to think she isnt even much older than seth but still bullies him for being the baby of the peacekeepers. do u understand my vision. please. they have so much annoying coworker potential.
shinigami - idk like 1000. she's a death god who cares.
yuma - okay. yeah. look i dont give a singular fuck about age discourse- headcanon whatever you want- but from looking at canon material i genuinely think that he could not possibly be any younger than 21. 20 if we wanna push it. yes, i know he looks young. i have eyes. but also, im in my 20s and the most common thing people tell me when i reveal my age is "oh, i thought you were 15." one time a person asked me if i was 12. at my job. that i was actively working at. i was 20. adults can look young, and contrary to the classic 1000 year old loli dragon trope he doesnt act overtly childish. he acts like a normal fuckin guy. yes he cries but like. you wouldn't in his position? bro speedruns lifelong trauma so skillfully that he's backwards long jumping into alternate universes where everything is somehow worse. i'd be freaked out if he didn't cry. also im aware that the child prodigy detective trope is a thing and that kodaka has written that before but... he was number one three years ago. and the training takes two years. which means, if he is a minor in the game's present day, he started working at the WDO at 12 and became number one at 14... at the oldest. have you ever met a 14 year old? forgive me for not suspending my disbelief here. and really the kicker for me is that yuma has a line where he says he's not sure if he's drinking age (which would be 20 in japan), but you know who would be sure? you know who knows yuma's age better than yuma?
makoto kagutsuchi - this megacorporation CEO has a fully stocked minibar installed in his penthouse. <- sentence i cannot bring myself to believe if it's about a child. since i also cant picture him becoming CEO at age 14 without yomi at least once angrily pointing that out (he only ever mentions that makoto is an outsider, or has his head in the clouds), id like to think both him and yuma, at their youngest, earned their top spots at their respective organizations at 18. it keeps their gifted kid syndrome and young prodigy-ness without making things comically ridiculous or uncomfortable for the sheer amount of sexual situations yuma gets put into.
anyway that's my silly little ramble on age headcanons. this was actually really fun to think about. shoutout to kodaka for leaving out the ages. funniest choice he could've made
#rain code#raincode#mdarc#master detective archives: rain code#rain code spoilers#mdarc spoilers#biggie's rain code ramblings
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scrub & rinse: tinder and flames
As an eighteen-year-old, the most pressing thing on my mind is, of course, a boyfriend. I’ve never been good at romance. I’ve been reading romance novels and watching romcoms since before I can remember, but I get stuck when it comes to actually flirting with someone.
And, like many other romantically desperate late teens, I downloaded Tinder. And Hinge. And Bumble. The whole nine yards. And if you’re wondering, the situationship I mentioned from last time didn’t pan out. At all. We weren’t a situationship and that became even more apparent when he said he didn’t think we were “romantically compatible.” I’m not bitter about it at all, if you couldn’t tell. Since I’ve moved on from that romantic prospect, I’ve turned to the bitter wasteland that is Tinder in the Midwest.
It's bleak. Last week, the second image on a guy’s profile was Donald Trump post-assassination attempt. Yikes! The guy I’ve been trying to talk to currently, who I will be referring to as Felon, is certainly interesting. Our first and only in person interaction was him coming to my job to buy a pair of shoes that we didn’t have. Felon was cuter than his profile and incredibly kind. He had my number because I gave it to him to use my employee discount, and then I realized that might’ve been a bad idea. He asked about my hobbies, which was standard for first time talking to a pretty “girl” from Tinder. And he was extremely relieved when he found out I wasn’t in high school. Did I mention he’s 23? A fully grown, adult man, liking an eighteen-year-old on Tinder and not seeing anything wrong with that, except for that they might be in high school. Yeah, sure, whatever. And then I went to bed because this morning I had to wake up at six-thirty in the morning. I’m on that college grind, or whatever.
He had sent me six messages while I was asleep. SIX! The last thing I had sent was about how I thought ��big and meaty and smelly” was hot. My fault for leading him into what he was about to send. He said he wanted to throw me around. Throw me around? It’s not like my life is a weird, bodice-ripper romance novel. And, not to embarrass myself online or anything, but I’ve never had sex. I’m not the type of person to drop everything to go get “thrown around” at twelve in the morning. He also told me he needed good luck because he had court. I’m sorry? Court?? I bet the wheels are turning on this guy’s fake name for a lot of you. When I woke up (yes at six-thirty) I apologized for going to bed and he responded three hours later with “my lawyer got me off Scott free in 20 minutes.” I can’t help but wonder if he knows that he spelled scot-free wrong. It’s not like I’m the grammar police or anything, this journal is no doubt littered with grammar errors, but still.
Though, after he said that his lawyer got him off raised more questions for me. When I asked him why he was in court, his answer was someone was mad he stole their girl. This was something that had come up earlier, as if it were something that came up frequently. Stealing people’s girls, that is. I don’t think he goes to court frequently. I hope he doesn’t go to court frequently. Then he drops that he was there for felony assault! Felony! Assault! The nickname has to be making sense now. But it was cleared for self-defense, so that makes it all better, right? As someone who was at least kind of interested in this guy, I immediately was worried. As a virgin and a hopeless romantic, a man that wants to throw me around and has almost had a felony assault charge is not my ideal type. I want a boyfriend, not a fuck buddy. I had to change my Tinder relationship preference to “long-term open to short” rather than the opposite, “short-term open to long.” Because I’m stupid and inexperienced, in my mind short-term meant a few dates, maybe a few kisses, and then seeing where that goes. Apparently, to everyone else, short-term means sex.
I wasn’t aware that Tinder was used widely as a hookup app until I saw a TikTok, around three months after my 18th birthday, of a girl recounting her own inexperience with that idea, and how one of her dates had to let her know. I also sort of found out on my own after multiple messages of “I want you to reread the first three words.” Which, by the way, is the worst fucking pickup line of all time. I’m not exaggerating. If you use that on me, I will not respond. It makes you seem like a dick. The most constant Tinder guy in my life is someone who I’ll call Rave Guy. This name is because I saw him at a rave, thought he was super cute, and then saw him on Tinder after. Which was, personally, the awesomest thing that’s ever happened to me. We’ve been on three dates (over the course of five months) and have kissed twice. Rave Guy is probably the nicest guy I’ve met on Tinder, and I’m honestly fumbling him? I might have to get on this.
Another wasteland, though perhaps not as desolate, is Hinge. I don’t like Hinge as much because it’s focused on finding people to actually connect with. Which, I guess is the whole point of a dating app, but Tinder is almost like gambling. With Hinge, I have to actually think about it. Sending a Hinge like feels like being a beggar on the street, but in lieu of money, I’m asking for love. I realize that I might be describing a prostitution service. C’est la vie! I did match with a guy on Hinge, and we supposedly had a class together. I got to this class, excited to see this guy in person, and he didn’t show up. I wonder if he thinks I’m not interested. I did leave him on read a few times, but in my defense the last message was a smiley face. How am I supposed to respond to a smiley face, like, seriously?
I don’t really have any Bumble stories because something on my account got locked and I did not feel like fixing it, so I deleted it. Oops! Dating in the Midwest as a queer teenager is definitely hard. I feel like a solid third of the guys on Tinder are homophobic, and another third are uggos (sorry), and then the decent third? All guys who don’t text back. I’m sure that, eventually, I’ll find someone. Right now, though, I just am not sure that “someone” is in the cards for me.
This has been Scrub & Rinse, thank you for reading! Yours, Ajax
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Hello, what are your headcanon ages for the 3ot characters?😊
Oh my gosh, Nonny, this ask has been sitting in my inbox since January, and I completely forgot about it! it must have come in shortly after I answered a similar ask about the RF4 characters ages and then just fell through one of the swiss cheese holes in my brain. 😓 Sorry about that!
Funny coincidence, I've recently gotten back into playing 3oT, so all of the characters are fresh in my mind. So I guess I was cleaning out my inbox at just the opportune moment.
3oT has a ton of characters, so I'm assuming you're asking about the Marriage Candidates as opposed to Every Single Character. And I don't have any real solid numbers, just more like general age-ranges for the characters. So here goes!
Holly/Henry - They're young adults. Young enough to still be living at home with their parents (which for an American-coded family is not something that typically happens past the earliest of your 20s in fiction), and not yet have settled into a career. I know in Earth and Rebirth, I wrote Holly as being 21 (20 when the story starts), and I based that strongly off the vibes I got from the game. When you start the game your parents seem ready and accepting that the player character wants to set off on their own because you are of that age, the only push back comes when the PC says they want to be a farmer. So yeah, I really seem them as being a very young adult, no older than a recent college graduate, so in the 18-23 age range.
Lisette - She's in her mid-20s, I think. She says once that she took over the flower shop from her parents after she finished horticulture school, which I imagine was like a college program or some equivalent. So her years from 18-22 were likely spent in school. And I also believe she mentioned having run the shop for a few years by the time the game starts, so I've always placed her around 24-27ish. She could easily be read as older, she doesn't get specific about her age, and since this game does better than most with regards to characters close to 30 complaining about their age.
Wayne - He's a mid to late 20s guy. I think he mentions having lived in Westown for several years by the beginning of the game after getting assigned there as the postman. He doesn't talk about other previous assignments, but that doesn't mean he didn't have any. I believe he did mention doing the "normal schooling" before he became a postman, so it's possible he went to college as well and didn't start working until he was in his early 20s. But even getting "several" years into his 20s that can still put him at 23-25 at the young end. But I can easily see Wayne being anywhere from 25-30.
Ford - He's definitely in his 30s. I'd have to say somewhere in his mid-30s if I needed to be specific. He's a doctor, and assuming he didn't fast track himself through college and med school and graduate med school at an early age, then he would have been about 26 at the end of med school. There's mention of Ford having been Westown's doctor for the better part of a decade, so following that logic he's probably somewhere from 34-37. He's definitely the oldest of the marriage candidates (not counting the supernatural ones)
Komari - She's a tricky one to place. Her general energy and mannerisms can definitely skew her to the younger end of the 20s. But at the same time, that could just make her appear younger than she really is. I don't remember much of her later events (and haven't seen them since I started my replay) but I remember her seeming to be caught between needing to figure out what to do/how to grow up and be taken seriously. But in her early dialogue she very quickly seems to take the PC under her wing keeping an eye on them like an older sibling might. I think given the mix, I tend to read her in her early to mid-20s. Grown up, but maybe not fully matured, and not yet seen as full grown in her father's eyes. So 22-25ish.
Kasumi - I think she's younger than Komari, not by much, maybe a year or two difference, but I think she is the younger of the two. If I recall correctly, she's still a relatively new teacher when you're introduced to her. So if she's finished her own schooling and just in the first couple years of being a teacher, she's probably somewhere from 21-24 years old.
Hinata - Like Holly/Henry, I think he's a young one. Probably the youngest marriage candidate. He's been in Tsuyukusa for a while when you meet him, I believe he came here to work for Moriya when he was 13, but he still hasn't been working there for as long as Shizu and Ittetsu. So probably less than 10 years. And given he's still seems to be in the early stages of his acting training when he mentions it, it points to him being younger. I've personally headcanoned him as the same age as the PC, but really he could be anywhere from 18-23 years old.
Yuzuki - He's another tricky one to place. Given his life experiences with his illness in his youth, and his continuing fight with chronic illness, it could very easily account towards "aging" him prematurely, so he looks older than he really is, not to mention forcing him to mature much faster than he otherwise might have. However, I think Komari mentions growing up with Yuzuki and being friends, and Hinata and him became friends shortly after Hinata moved into town. So I think their ages are pretty close, within a few years of each other. So I could happily put him around 23-26ish. But honestly, an argument could be made to put Yuzuki in his late-20s. Having been sick for so long could also just mean he made friends with whatever kids he could keep up with, and that would have been the ones younger than him.
Iluka and Siluka - being twins, obviously they're going to be the same age. I generally place them in their early to mid20s. Somewhere from 23-27 I think given their experiences as children they all matured a lot faster than they would have otherwise. And given their town's culture, once they were able to do real work, they started working. So they probably started their training as priestesses in their teens and have been at it for a while now. So even if they're young, they've still probably got a decade of experience under their belts. Arguments could be made for them to be older, but I think if they were closer to their 30s or in their 30s, they probably would be more like friends with Zahau and Caolila, but when they talk about those two, it's more like they were babysitters for the kids, as opposed to cool older friends.
Ludus - I've always headcanoned him as around the same age as the twins. Older, but within a year or two. So he's also mid20s. Same arguments for why he's not older as for the twins. Their experiences had them maturing faster, he was probably beginning his jack-of-all-trades work when he was still in his teens, though probably didn't start the heavy construction projects until he was older and more experienced. (and ya'know, despite the game's suggestion he can't be the only person building houses. there has to be a team of carpenters/construction workers who help him with the jobs) So like the twins, he's 23-27.
Now for the Special Candidates!
Stephanie - I could see her being in her late20s to early30s. She's clearly been at her MC career for a while by the time she settles down in Westown. She mentions having traveled and lived lots of places, but this is the first place she feels like wanting to settle in for the long term. So I can happily place her around the 26-32 age range.
Woofio - mild spoilers for his back story, but he's gotta be decades, if not over a century old. I don't remember if he specified how old he really is, but I know he's MUCH older than anybody else in the game (deities excluded). However, if I wanted to assign an age range to the way he acts, I think like Stephanie he's mid20s to early 30s. Old enough to have gotten lots of experience with animals, learning to care for them, and judge them, and build a career on the festival circuit. So 26-32 for him as well.
Inari - They're hard to pin down. Being a deity, I'm pretty sure they're several hundred years old, if not over 1000. They do mention something like for them aging one year is equivalent to humans aging 10 years. They also look very young. but they do insist to the PC that even if they might look childish, they are much much older and more mature than they look. However, given the way they act and behave, even if they're mature enough to be an adult, they're a very Young adult. Having never spoken to a human before, since mortals can't see them, they're very naive about a lot of things, particularly when it comes to relationships and such. if I had to stick an age on them, it's gonna be Babey Adult range, 17-19.
That's all a lot of text so the tl;dr version:
Holly/Henry: 18-23
Lisette: 24-27
Wayne: 25-30
Ford: 34-37
Komari: 22-25
Kasumi: 21-24
Hinata: 18-23
Yuzuki: 23-26
Iluka: 23-27
Siluka: 23-27
Ludus: 23-27
Stephanie: 26-32
Woofio: 26-32
Inari: 17-19
#replies#asks#anonymous#trio of towns#oh my gosh this ask is so old. sorry Nonny! if you're still out there
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also, since i am... 100% certain that the chip twitters aren't coming back, i wanna take a few minutes to talk about my experience as a mod for one of the characters (since i doubt it's any surprise that I was one lol)
firstly, i'm not revealing anybodys identities here other than my own, because everyone has fully moved on from the project and don't wanna be assocciated in any way with it anymore. i'm making this post mostly for myself and maybe 2 other people so even if you have inklings of who the other mods are, don't look for them. they will not be happy
with that out of the way-
if it wasn't supremely god damn obvious by this point, i was the most recent mod for bert. from like... what, may 2020? that whole big arc where he got out of the bertputer, that's when i started. definitely a lot of weight on my shoulders with that one.
despite how much i had fun writing for bert though... this whole project was really a nightmare from beginning to end behind the scenes. before we (the new team) could even start actually posting and writing stuff, there was a whole kerfuffle getting the keys (account log in info) from the old team. had to even get david involved for a few things, which we really hated doing just cuz we didn't like bothering him. the old team was also... well, its own thing. i've kinda blocked out most of what happened regarding that but what i do know was that it was very mentally taxing trying to get rid of the old guys and get us logged into the new accounts.
people also certainly had... mixed feelings about the direction we tried to take things in. we were handed a story that was already extremely jacked up with its own weird baggage attached and had to make do with what we could. the story beats set up by the previous team were really hard to work with and we genuinely just did not agree with some of the characterization that was happening. namely bert and otto, they were... something. so, we tried our best to work with it and find justifications or explainations for certain behaviors and actions. i do know for a fact that there were people that did not like what we did with bert, especially. remember seeing stuff saying that we 'aged up' bert for the sole purpose of shipping him with rotten which... is not at all what happened. he was already a grown up character, in his late teens or early 20s, but the previous team had infantilized him to such a degree and for so long that that was just what people knew. we ended up justifying this by basically diagnosing bert with trauma induced age regression. it's a little complicated and a little fuzzy to recall, but that's the intention we were going with, at least.
we did originally have bigger plans for these characters and their arcs and everything, but the team was losing interest and everything surrounding it was genuinely sending some of us into mental crisis. it made us all distance ourselves really far from the project and not wanting to touch chipspeech as a whole with a 10 ft pole. a lot of this stemmed from the sovereign station server too, it was fine like 80% of the time, but shit got weird in there. if you weren't in there then like, good. you've saved yourself the headache. but overall, pretty much everyone has moved on and is doing their own thing now. there's been a few mods that I don't talk to anymore due to other circumstances, but I'm still good friends with a handful of them. they're doing much better now, too.
long story short, the characters just... aren't gonna be coming back, as far as I can tell. it's been pretty obvious due to the 2+ years of radio silence, but just to put the nail in the coffin. i still believe that the twitters are a great springboard for your own interpretations, and that's kind of another reason why we stopped. these characters can honestly be whatever the hell you want them to be. making a rigid sort of canon to apply to them is a little silly, especially when it's a bunch of young adults roleplaying that canon on twitter dot com. do whatever you want. it was a fun enough ride while it lasted.
that being said though, i personally still hold chip near and dear to me. strong interest has definitely faded, but i still like making covers occasionally and drawing the guys and silly stuff like that. i have a lot of myself to thank for chipspeech, and that's not changing, despite the horrors that we faced. thanks for reading all this if you did lol.
and bert is best boy im DYING ON THIS HILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hello 😃 I binged all of lone star and I’m now fully in the Tarlos hole 🕳️ with no way of getting out 🥹 anyways as I rewatched their scenes again and again, I noticed how Carlos really works on himself, makes so much progress and is such a layered character (FUN! That’s how it’s suppose to be to keep the audience attached to the plot and character). But / and I also noticed how in season 1 when we met him he (came across as) more light, smiley, more carefree in a way. Now season 4 Carlos ofc had his goofy moments and teases TK still etc. but it seems more subdued and he seems more…reserved in a way? Less smiley, less happy. Not with TK, just a general vibe.
Do you think it’s the writers / Rafa considering how much shit went down since season 1, like so many deaths of family members, and nearly losing TK many times, almost dying himself etc. that definitely leaves trauma and can really do you in mentally. Or is it cause he older now or?
Mhhhh trying to understand the shift, and although it makes sense given the circumstances, I do hope we get some carefree, smiling from ear to ear, serene Carlos in S5 with his husband again, at least here and there. Very excited to see where they and Rafa are going with it ♥️
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First, welcome! Happy to have you :)
I was just thinking this the other day, but I feel like Carlos has always been kind of reserved, and part of me thinks that's due to his background.
I definitely think he's a bit more open in season one and I think that's to counteract TK's casualness and somewhat guarded demeanor.
That said, when we learn that he thinks his own father thought he would be "too soft" to be a cop, it really made me wonder how Carlos handles his emotions; especially knowing his relationship with his father.
That mixed with the way his parents reacted to him coming out, his own struggles with his sexuality and (in my opinion) his need to kind of be this rock for both him and TK. (I also hope we explore his relationship with his faith at some point but that's probably a long shot)
We see him shed a single tear (if Rafael Silva is going to do anything, it's shed a single tear and know how to look good when doing it) when TK's in his first coma; but it isn't until halfway through season two when the loft burns down that we see him fully give in to his melancholy.
It wouldn't shock me if Carlos' more reserved nature was born out of everything that's happened to him that hasn't been explored. I mean, the guy was abducted, technically died, and was brought back to life all in one episode and the next week they were just back to wedding planning like it was nothing 😭
Anyways, I'm saying that because while I don't think the writers necessarily planned to have Carlos come off as more reserved, it wouldn't surprise me if Rafael is playing him as such. (It is a Ryan Murphy production after all, the actors are only given so much sometimes.)
I understand that it's an ensemble show, it's less than an hour long and the show isn't about TK and Carlos ; so that does leave a lot of blanks for us to fill in ourselves.
It could also be that he's older, I'm pretty close in age to Rafael and I think he's pretty close in age to Carlos and your late 20s are definitely a time where you're kind of like, "I'm an adult but I'm not grown up." I agree, I would love to see much more lighthearted interactions, which might be wishful thinking seeing it's a labeled a drama. I was saying that I hope there's an episode where the gang goes to the beach and their biggest emergency is that the snow cone machine is broken.
#thanks for being a breath of fresh air after that last anon hahah#rambling wreck#asked and answered
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In your anon response to Luke never meeting Owen, you mention he’d eventually get a job and move to essos and live among the locals eventually maybe even settling down I’d assume. What does the family reunion look like in this AU if it ever happens. I’d assume they wouldn’t meet luke again until he’s in his 30s and has created a whole new life living twice as long in the new world then in the one they knew him. Love your work !!
In this Au getting close to Luke is 10x harder because he’s a fully grown man no longer held by the foster system and forced to live with the family.
I’d go with Luke being somewhere in his late 30’s because I like mature Lucemond, as well as the fact that his journey to becoming a healed man took TIME.
Now, there are some parts that make this hard because Luke is an adult and no one knows what he would’ve looked like had he gotten the chance to grow older from the start. In the current tl, despite almost being eighteen Luke still looks like himself, just a bit more angular.
It would take like 20 minutes of staring to even realize he’s Lucerys. Especially if he has facial hair or grown even taller (no taller than like 5’10 tho). Id like to imagine he’s now about being healthy not only in mind but in body as well so he’s a beefcake like Harwin.
However, when whoever meets him realizes thats Luke from the doe eyes, perfectly placed moles and bunny teeth he never grew out of they immediately jump to family reunion mode while he’s like “excuse me sir, but I’m here to pick up my grocery order? 🤨”
Since this would take place somewhere like Pentos or Tyrosh, he probably ends up meeting Aegon/Joff since those two for sure crave travel/adventure. Once they realize Luke had no idea who they are the guy’s immediately try to conceive a plan to convince Luke to hang out with them so they can scope some things out.
By some miracle Luke agrees to go out later on (probs to get a drink, but he’s clean so he’ll order a root beer or cider)
During the waiting period Aegon/Joff are calling everyone which causes a major panic among the fam. Its when Rhaenyra is sent an off guard pic of Luke that she breaks down because thats her son, she knows what her sweet boy looks like no matter what.
Que all the shenanigans and angst.

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Im curious for the show in how theyll take inspiration from source material here. Like I think I will enjoy it knowing its not meant to be an exact adaption- though Im curious how they will handle Claudia with the actress being a grown person (or really all of them being aged up) Or Louis with his arcs of guilt and repression- when this time he starts owning a bunch of brothels and maybe has a past male lover? Im curious tho optimistic
I'm kind of confused bc this ask isn't a question? I can also only answer these to the best of my knowledge bc I'm not one of the show runners, I'm just some guy ��
But if you are asking why I support the show and it's changes I'll say that I personally hated being a teenager and in this version Claudia will be 13. I think that is plenty young enough to feel stuck in one's body, which is Claudia's main issue. The show runners have said child labor laws were a reason they cast someone who was legally an adult but I think Durst was the only possible youngest Claudia. She was 12 and already an accomplished actress when she took the role, I read that Neil Jordan wanted a trained child actor since it's such a hard role for a kid to play an adult. The behind the scenes in my dvd copy Durnst even says at the time she didn't really understand what her character Claudia was going through, looking back as an adult made it make sense, so I'm guessing she probably had good stage direction for Jordan or other crew. So at the end of the day, I think to have someone reasonably play a character who is mentally an adult they needed to cast someone older. We haven't gotten a lot of images of Claudia but it looks like from the 2 we have she is still a "child".
I also kind of feel like comments that Bailey Bass is too old are rooted in racist stereotypes. Black girls get seen as "older" and "sexual" much sooner than white girls. Some of what I have seen ppl say about Bailey Bass has really disgusted me. I don't think you should be commenting on this girl's body parts, even if she is "legally an adult". She is still leagues younger than the ppl I see commenting on her body.
For the other characters I also prefer for them to be older. Lestat not having a fully formed prefrontal cortex might explain a lot of his bullshit but I also agree with others in saying that AR consistently saying the most attractive men alive are 21 (and later 20 and then 19) and her harping on how attractive Armand is (who looks 17) sounds more like a fetish than realistic. It's an old post by a friend, now @hedonisticgene but it was his old blog I think, said "Have you ever met the college kid who thinks he's a sex god? That's Lestat". So I do think making the characters older will make them seem attractive and charming and also have ppl not inquire too much about their lives be realistic.
As for the brothel it has the potential to be as morally repugnant as Louis having been a slave owner. I think fanon and late canon woobifies Louis so much that his general weak moral backbone is often ignored. Remember in the book IWTV Louis does not object to kill humans "bc it's wrong morally" but bc he thought it was an aesthetic experience he should work his way up to. He also describes his slaves in some awful ways, so I don't really think brothel owner is out of the question. And when it comes to Louis's repressed sexuality, well wouldn't it be the best cover, if you are gay and don't want others to know, to own a brothel. I am aware some ppl read Louis as bi while others (myself included) see him as gay. I also read IWTV as the interpretation that Louis's struggle to come to terms with vampirism is his struggle to come to terms with his sexuality. And Louis doesn't shy from telling us he went to whorehouses or that he maybe had feelings for Babette. What he shies away from is admitting his feelings for Lestat. So I think Louis being repressed has more to do with internalized homophobia than sex in general. So I feel like surrounding yourself with a whole bunch of hot women would be the best way to be "I'm totally straight! Look how straight I am!" 😂
I have my reservations about the show like any fan. These books (well the first three) mean so much to be I'll be devastated if this show sucks. But honestly for me it's not in these kind of small details, to me what matters is the character dynamic. That's what I love, and as long as this show scratches my brain the same way the books do I'll be happy.
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“nice to meet you“ Roommate!Shinsou Hitoshi X F!Reader Part 1
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Tw for : Assassin!Shinsou theme, female reader, gun usage, slight insecurity (?), NSFW for the most part on the later chapters, drug usage, corrupt government talk, harassment
This was the worst timing of your life. It was September and you knew time is going to pass quickly to chilly December. Even though late summer's breeze made it pleasurable to go out in town to run errands, the increase of supply demand made you squeeze out what little energy you had for the office job at logistics. Barely earning your required minimum wage in the small flat that you owned, your life was miserable for your financial conditions. Then your dear neighbor friend gave you an idea.
"Put up a roommate flyers? You can definitely share expenses with someone to ease your wallet"
Its not like it was a bad idea. You had roommates in the past in your time in college, you just were afraid of the mess you'd usually come back to once your classes would end. Now that you are an adult woman with a job, it seemed almost silly. Still wearing your summer loose shirt and shorts as house-wear you were basking in what little warmth summer had to offer, you looked out of the flat window to gaze at the orange sunset while preparing your fliers, the mixture of pink and purple ombre sent your mind in a state of serenity. For a moment you had forgotten your financial worries.
If only there was a way for you to excel more at your job and earn more, you've tried to, but the corrupt system only allowed privileged people on the spot.
The thought sent you back to reality and you grimaced, sighing and turning your head back to the paper you reread the information on it.
„Looking for a roommate at Address XXX, phone number and e-mail contact info...“
It was really neat even, you made a cutout for each number and email paper so that people can pluck it and consider it. You sent out fliers and continued on with your day.
The moment you sent out fliers around your workspace, around your building and in the most populated places in the town, the realization settled in that you'd be sharing expenses with some total stranger, you didn't have any friends that needed help, almost everyone that you knew off was either married and living with their partner or busy helping their parents and therefore still living with them. You had asked your closest friend, Uraraka if she needed it as a temporary stay before she moved out of country, but her plans caught her working on the other side of the city and was too far away from you. She probably had a similar situation like you so you felt bad.
You only hoped that the person that would knock on the door and be your roommate would not end up harassing you, make a mess more than you usually make yourself, or like your pessimistic parents would say, kill you.
Within two days, you get a call early morning, startling you awake.
Flying out of bed to pluck your phone out from charger you coughed out your morning voice and looked at the unknown number on the screen, swiping the green phone you answered. You were curious on the sort of person you'd have this conversation with. Maybe you were a bit naive, because on one hand you were anxious, but you sure were also exited to have a person in this soulless flat.
"Hey... Is this the right number for a roommate flier?"
You've never heard a voice such like his. Spending your almost entire life in that neighborhood you've grown accustomed to voices such like your local sweet lady at supermarket, the friend from work had much more boring voices. But this guy seemed to have come from the outside. Perhaps Uraraka knew of him? You could ask, but doubtful.
Maybe he came to work temporarily? Your mind raced with questions as the mysterious, low voice left you speechless and it took you some time until he asked again
"Hello? Is anyone there?"
"Oh- y-yes I'm sorry!"
„My name is Shinsou Hitoshi, I was wondering if we could discuss about it further and meet up somewhere? Preferably an hour from now, at... Midoriya's Lounge Cafe? Sounds good?“
God, his voice sent your legs wobbling and it was only 7:05 AM on Saturday. He obviously had energy to do it now and you were barely awake, about to pass out by the mere vibrations from the speaker.
„Sure! Thank you for considering my place. Let's meet up there.“
Waking up fully you dressed up, plastered some make up on and stormed out, you also made sure to hide whatever leftover clothing from your living room in your bedroom to hide any nasty appearance if he decides to come here.
The stroll was short, the cafe he proposed was a 20 minute walk from your place, you weren’t sure if it was a coincidence that he chose this place or if he was considerate for choosing a place close by, but you were grateful for it.
8 AM and the cafe was rather busy at Saturday morning, good thing was that there was a lot of free space between tables, you'd usually pick this place to have a peace of mind when it was afternoon lunch break and you weren’t much hungry.
Now entering, the door made a small 'ding' from the doorbell, marking your entrance, your eyes scanned the area to find anyone who would be remotely looking at your direction. You didn't know how Shinsou looked like, but he could of easily tracked on the contact info how you looked like.
You made an eye contact with an individual staring at you, were his purple eyes staring back at you the whole time? The gaze sent the hairs on your back of your neck stand out. He was intimidatingly dangerous, it was apparent. His arms seemed to have enough strength to crush both of your wrists with just his one hand, his tall figure managed to find comfort in the armchair, knee poked a bit on the side and you could only guess how tall he truly was judging by his sitting position. The only coloured thing he wore was the purple strap adorning his black pants and t-shirt. The strap also matched his eyes and wild hair. It sure was in unusual colour, but you didn't question it since the owner of the said lounge was green haired.
He slowly tapped a finger on the table two times while looking at you.
'So this is Mr. Shinsou?' You questioned yourself, it was only logical, to whoever else he might invite to come sit beside him? Gulping a lump in your throat, you approached him, setting a bag on the other chair you noticed a sports bag was beside him. Was this all of his luggage? He didn't seem to have much if he was ready to move in right now, maybe he was only a temporary stay? Maybe he just came out from a gym.
Of course, it was 8 AM. And the man now sitting across you seemed to be the type to buff himself a lot, you held in your breath again once your gaze set on his exposed forearms and how tight his black shirt hugged his figure. It took you good amount of time to introduce yourself to him, but he seemed to be patient enough to let you get comfortable.
„Hello! You must be the one for the flier, my name is Y/N. It's a pleasure to make acquaintance.“
„Nice to meet you. I ordered us coffee if you don't mind?“ He smiled lightly
„Oh I don't mind, I love coffee in here, I'm a regular.“
After a short greeting, you two had a small talk on his and your state of living, you were sure he was going to be a semi-distant person, judging by his work schedule that makes it almost impossible to meet him throughout the day and night, you were kind of worried, but didn't judge much since it was his job of choice, he never said what he did though.
„Well you could say I'm a night owl. I go where I'm asked, taking calls left and right. Don't worry, I earn enough for your rent.“ He crossed his legs and laid back on the armchair, letting his arms rest on each side of it. You didn't say it but you were especially enjoying the view.
You were quiet careful when it came to relationships, ever since you had your heart broken in hopes of finding one, it made you feel insecure if you'd ever find a soulmate. This man made it seem like he was a big fish to catch, and you were out of his league so you quickly established it before any further thoughts entered in your mind.
„Great! So you want to come to my place now to look around before deciding? There's a guest room where you can leave your stuff.“
The indigo haired man nodded, after you had drank your morning coffee, you both payed for it and left, he took his sport bag and you eyed him curiously. You barely know him and now you know now he is going to come and live with you. Its not like you had much of a choice... you had to save on something, you were starving, and he came by quickly to come and live with you. As exciting as it is to have an attractive individual come and live with you, it also terrified you.
The walk back to your place was quiet, occasional questions slipped out from your mouth. Asking about his food preference and anything he didn't like to make his stay more comfortable. He seemed pretty open about anything.
„Is that all of the luggage you are taking with you or are you going to come back with more?“
„No, this is all.“ He responded, short and concise. „I'm a man of simple needs.“
God he should stop talking, or more like you should stop asking questions like a curious kitten, his voice made you jump on the phone but it was a stuggle to be with him in lounge to hear him talk as well. Once arriving, you struggled to find a door key for a second and you opened it to reveal a simple flat.
„Here we are.“ You looked at him and let him enter first.
You weren’t going to let your guard down still, if he was going to do something behind your back you at least wanted to have a little bit of chance to escape. His foot stepped inside, softly stepping on the plush carpet with his dark shoes he inspected the area almost innocently. You sighed in relief and entered after him, closing the door behind you.
„On the right is a door to the guest room.“ You said as you took off your jacket and tossed the key to the stand. „There's a bathroom in here and my room in on the left. If you ever need me just knock on the door alright?“
„You doubt that I don't have manners? Careful you might lose a roommate now.“
He turned sideways and grinned at you. There was something about this individual that's going to be a handful for you, nevertheless of how little you are going to see him throughout the day. After the short tour, he signed a contract of living with you. As you suspected, he was going to be a temporary stay in the city, he promised to be out of your neck in six months, after that, he was going out. He gave you the first pay and shortly after that he was phone called by someone on his end.
'Busy bee, isn’t he?' You thought to yourself as you watched him leave, shrugging the thought away you glanced curiously at his bag in the room that he left.
'It's not polite to look at other people's things.' You hummed and closed the door to now Shinsou's room. Feeling the unease fading away now, you decided to not worry yourself about other people's things as you had too much of your own.
Dialing the phone now yourself you sent a message to your friend.
[Today] 'Hey, Uraraka? Want to go out someday? I have so much to talk about! <3 '
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Chapter 13
Warnings: Graphic depictions of violence, kidnapping, harassment, swearing, a lot of it, manipulation, slow-burn (?), eventual romance, eventual smut, enemies to allies to lovers, coercion, slight dub-con, minor character deaths, depictions of irresponsible drinking and the effects that follows.
Mafia boss! Kita Shinsuke x Spy! F! Reader
Summary: For as long as you’ve been on God’s blue earth, you’ve been taught to help your family by gathering information and spying on other crime syndicates from all over Japan. To say you’re good for your age is an understatement, you’re one of the best out there with all of the information you’ve managed to gather.
Once you turn 20, you are to be given your first official mission as a fully grown adult, retrieving the important documents the Inarizaki clan has managed to steal. You’re confident you’re able to do it, but a lot of things don’t exactly go according to plan...
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Three months have passed ever since you stepped foot in Hokkaido, you and Ito have become closer than ever as you confided in each other regarding your problems. Ito has been nothing but supportive in listening to your turmoil about Kita and generally everything you’ve experienced for the past few months, giving you advice on how to deal with the overwhelming feelings you’re experiencing.
Likewise, you’d give logical solutions to Ito’s problems, as those are what he’s searching. He’s since quit his previous jobs with a toxic environment and has since started working in a better place for about the same amount salary.
It’s also been more than a month since you both met up at the bar, finding sober conversations much more comforting. You would meet up at the park, cafés, or diners and just talk about whatever comes to mind. Your conversations have started to become more serious and intimate ever since you asked about how he feels about his father’s situation.
You’ve learnt about how he felt during his parent’s divorce, the extent of his feelings when his ex-fiancée left him, how he dealt with the constant downs he’s experienced as of late, and generally just Ito as a person. Sure, this is against the protocol of the mission and you will probably be impacted by his death a bit more, but you’ve decided to think about that later, for now, you’re just going to go with the flow.
On one particular day, you and Ito decided to tour Higashikagura on a whim, Ito giving you explanations of the popular tourist destinations and local hidden gems. There isn’t much, you have to admit, but it’s still a comfortable place to live in (the onsen is by far your favourite place). You end your trip at the Chubetsu dam, like everything else, there isn’t much, but the scenery it offers forces a smile to your face.
“Hey.” Ito says softly as you two watch the sky change colours from blue to its orange and red hues.
“Yes?”
“How are you feeling? You know, about that guy and everything you were talking about with me?”
You hum as you focus your gaze to the setting sun, how do you feel about Kita and everything? “I’m not sure. So far, I’ve accepted that it is okay to be jealous and I wasn’t overreacting much. I still feel irritated at the thought, but I think I’ve gotten better at identifying my feelings and how to react to it in a healthier way. I guess that also applies to everything I went through, huh?”
“That’s right, and I’m really proud of you for that. You’re a fast learner, you know?”
Silence envelops you both as the sky soon turns to an inky black, stars still visible from the lack of pollution. You whip your head to Ito when you feel his hand grasping yours. You raise your eyebrow in confusion at the sudden action, what is he doing? “Ito-san?” You ask, watching as the flustered man keeps his gaze glued to the sky.
“I know you’re still dealing with your heartbreak over that guy, and I know I must be very hasty but… ever since you came around, my life has just been going upwards. I just… I guess I wanted to say that I have feelings for you, of course, you don’t have to respond to it! I just… wanted to get it off my chest.” Ito says, looking everywhere but at you.
Your eyes soften at the flustered man, sure you’ve received a few confessions from the men back at your old clan, though you did reject all of them due to various reasons, but Ito is different. He took the time to befriend and get to know you, you believe he had no intentions of dating you in the first place but as he got more comfortable with you, he caught feelings along the way, which, in a way, makes it better for you.
Yet he is still your target, you will kill him by the end of next month, he has no chance of escaping this alive. You want to reject him, you don’t want any special connections with someone whose days are numbered, for your own sake. Yet your job requires to keep Ito close to you as much as possible. Tominaga was originally assigned to this mission because she would’ve jumped at any chance to date the target, if she has to, she probably would have no qualms of marrying the target. The least you could do is to become Ito’s girlfriend, even if it’s only for a month.
“You know, Souta-san, I think it’s fine. I wouldn’t mind trying a relationship with you.” You say with a soft smile. “My feelings towards the guy I was pining for has changed. When you told me to let him go rather than forget him, it… really helped. And now, while I do still have lingering feelings for him, I think my feelings towards you have changed.”
Ito’s brown eyes widen as he looks over to you as his grip on your hand tightens slightly. “Are… are you really…”
“Accepting to be your girlfriend? Yes, I really think you’re a good man and I wouldn’t mind trying for a relationship with you. Please, take care of me.”
The smile on Ito’s face can only be described as blinding, the warmth radiating from it brings a smile to your face as well. You sidle up to him and lean on him as you spend the rest of the night chatting up a storm, even as he drops you off at your apartment, it doesn’t seem like he wants the night to end even if you two have made plans to go on a date the very next day.
Who would have known you’d enjoy being with Ito so much?
Since you began dating him, he’s nothing but sweet to you, sweeter than he already was. He spoils you as much as he can that you’re sure even the local aunties are jealous as they sigh about young love. Whenever you walk together, he’ll always hold your hand and would always make sure you’re safe. He’d check your surroundings in case some creep decides to follow.
Two weeks is when you two finally have something worth celebrating over. A text he got from his ex-fiancée begging for him to take her back. Ito declined immediately, of course, but watching the regret she expressed through text boosted Ito’s confidence and gave both you and him a win.
With that in mind (and it being Saturday night), you both raided the alcohol section of the supermarket and buy some slightly more expensive food. Ito’s life has generally taken a turn upwards and his ex-fiancée texting him was the cherry on top. You both decided to celebrate in your apartment as yours is far more comfortable than his.
As the night passes, you both let loose and enjoy yourself, drinking to the point where you can’t remember what happened the past few hours. All you know is you woke up with a killer headache, bottles of alcohol and what remains of your more expensive than usual meal strewn about your apartment, both you and Ito sprawled on the floor (still fully clothed, fortunately), and a few miscalls from Kita from 1.30 in the morning.
You sit up slowly and cradle your head in your hands, you’ve never gotten drunk to the point where you’d have a hangover and you positively regret drinking to the point, but you suppose it’s an experience to add to your books.
“Chitose-san?” Ito groans, voice hoarse from sleep.
You look over to him to see him lying on his side, rubbing the side of his head, no doubt feeling as horrible as you. You reach for the aspirin in the plastic bag near you, struggling as you try to get the pills out. Ito sets out to your kitchenette and takes out two cups to fill with water, giving a cup to you while you give him the ripped packet of the pills.
“We really didn’t hold back last night, huh?” Ito asks as you nod in response.
“What the hell happened last night?” You ask, leaning on the wall to ease your headache.
“I don’t… know. This hangover’s going to last a while though.”
“We should clean up a bit before resting. Do you want to order anything?”
“Actually, I can’t stay for long. I have a package coming and I need to be there to sign it. I’ll help you clean up the mess, but I have to head home right after.” He says as he starts to pick up the bottles on the floor.
“Alright, I understand.”
Truthfully, you don’t. Suna regularly updates you about Ito and he hasn’t shopped online for two months. His last package came last month and hasn’t bought anything since, nor is he expecting anything from anyone.
So, why did he suddenly lie to you about that?
You ask yourself as soon as the door closes and Ito leaves your apartment. Did you reveal your true identity while you were drunk? He shouldn’t have remembered though since he should’ve confronted you about it. It just doesn’t make sense. Could he be avoiding you now? Planning an escape from you? Ito doesn’t seem like that kind of person though, from the time you collected information on him, he’s a bit more on the confrontational side.
Still, you open your phone, ignoring the miscalls from Kita and contact Suna, tapping your foot as you wait for him to pick up.
“[Name], what’s up?” Suna drawls as soon as he picks up.
“Can you keep an eye on Ito? He’s acting weird.”
“Weird how?”
“He avoided me. Said he has a package to receive before scurrying off.”
“I’ll keep an eye on him.” Suna yawns. “By the way, you sound like shit, what happened?”
“Got wasted last night, something must’ve happened though, we were celebrating over his ex wanting him back.” You answer, rubbing the bridge of your nose in frustration at the prospect of you botching another job. “Just… update me on his whereabouts. I can’t exactly go to him because he needs space the first few days.”
“Got it, don’t worry.”
You stand by the door and huff once you end your call with Suna, leaning your head against the wall, you can only hope this will all end well.
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NCT’s Mark Lee on Dreams, Instagram Poetry, and Growing Up
Mark has a lot going on — but he’s making time for poetry, introspection, and, of course, the members of NCT Dream. - Vivien Wu
“I’ve been thinking about dreams a lot these days!” Mark Lee exclaims over Zoom from SM Entertainment’s Seoul headquarters.
The 21-year-old leader of NCT Dream is enthusiastic as he mulls over the meaning of dreams, his back against a wall of pink and yellow flowers assembled by his fellow NCT members. He’s wearing a simple, white tee, and when he gestures with his hands, you can catch glimpses of the friendship ring that all seven members of NCT Dream wear as a symbol of their bond.
“I actually feel like dreams hold a large portion of a life, and I’m not just talking about the subconscious dreams that we all have when we sleep,” he continues. “If you put it in a way where dreams are actually things that motivate us, and the drive that keeps us going, especially as a strongly driven person myself, I feel like… a guy with no dreams is like…” He looks up, thinking. “…A car with no engine. So, I think it’s as important as yourself. That’s how deep I go with dreams.”
His interest in dreams is fitting, considering that they are also the central, underlying concept to the lore behind NCT Dream’s parent group, NCT. They connect their three subunits, NCT 127, NCT Dream, and WayV, in a complex, Inception-inspired fictional universe where dreams are the only way they can find each other, and where upon uniting they can mix to form new subunits collectively referred to as NCT U. In practical terms, this has resulted in a 23-member mega-group that is multifaceted in every way — from their musical styles and visual aesthetics to their cultural backgrounds and spoken languages.
The 21-year-old leader of NCT Dream is enthusiastic as he mulls over the meaning of dreams, his back against a wall of pink and yellow flowers assembled by his fellow NCT members. He’s wearing a simple, white tee, and when he gestures with his hands, you can catch glimpses of the friendship ring that all seven members of NCT Dream wear as a symbol of their bond.
“I actually feel like dreams hold a large portion of a life, and I’m not just talking about the subconscious dreams that we all have when we sleep,” he continues. “If you put it in a way where dreams are actually things that motivate us, and the drive that keeps us going, especially as a strongly driven person myself, I feel like… a guy with no dreams is like…” He looks up, thinking. “…A car with no engine. So, I think it’s as important as yourself. That’s how deep I go with dreams.”
His interest in dreams is fitting, considering that they are also the central, underlying concept to the lore behind NCT Dream’s parent group, NCT. They connect their three subunits, NCT 127, NCT Dream, and WayV, in a complex, Inception-inspired fictional universe where dreams are the only way they can find each other, and where upon uniting they can mix to form new subunits collectively referred to as NCT U. In practical terms, this has resulted in a 23-member mega-group that is multifaceted in every way — from their musical styles and visual aesthetics to their cultural backgrounds and spoken languages.
NCT Dream’s original teenage concept meant that members were supposed to “graduate” when they came of age, and as the oldest, Mark was the first to leave the group at the end of 2018. Having grown attached, however, fans were devastated at his departure; after a year of separation, SM announced that the graduation system would be scrapped and that he would rejoin the group. Their new album, Hot Sauce, is the first with Mark in over two years. As fellow member Haechan declared in an interview with Teen Vogue earlier this week, “Mark [is] very special. NCT Dream means Mark.”
But before the rapper led NCT Dream, and before he joined NCT U and NCT 127 and SuperM — the man is in high demand — Mark’s childhood dream was writing. He grew up in Toronto, and through doing school projects and essays quickly discovered that he had a natural way with words. Inspired by Percy Jackson author Rick Riordan, Harry Potter, and James Patterson, Mark dreamt of becoming an author, long before he was recruited by SM at a global audition in Canada in 2012. “When I was in school, I was always the kind of guy who would write more than expected, and that became a thing that clicked for me,” he says. “I was like, ‘Maybe it’s something that I naturally do?’ But then that kind of turned into rap writing too, so I guess they kind of clicked together.” It explains his prolific career as a lyricist; since debuting, he’s amassed over 30 songwriting credits across his various groups, contributing to songs as iconic as NCT U’s “Boss,” NCT 127’s “Cherry Bomb,” and NCT Dream’s “Chewing Gum.”
Even with such an extensive body of work, however, penning lyrics hasn’t satiated his appetite for literary expression. In an interview with Japanese magazine Men’s Non-No, he revealed that he still hopes one day to write a book, whether that be a novel, autobiography, or something more philosophical.
In the meantime, he’s taken to writing what are basically short poems on his Instagram, which he created just a few months ago. He’s gathered over 4.5 million followers since then, but having such a large audience hasn’t deterred him from being endearingly vulnerable with the way he writes. When I refer to them as poems, he laughs and looks embarrassed, but when I ask him to tell me the stories behind them, he’s enthusiastic again. They’re short, but offer brief glimpses into Mark the writer — sharp, inquisitive, and thoughtful. As pieces of literature, they’re a little rough around the edges, but the sincerity he’s known for shines through, illuminating the introspective, philosophical side that may not be so obvious in person.
His first poem, loosely titled “Late Night Scribbling,” put into words his musings about sleep, thoughts, feelings, and writing. It meanders from topic to topic, hovering between feelings of hope and hopelessness, before ending with a comically awkward “haha.”
“I actually wrote that by imagining how I wanted to organize my Instagram page,” he explains. “I was thinking of creating an Instagram, then I realized that, well, I’m not really a picture kind of guy, I’m not really a travelling kind of guy… I kind of studied who I am first, and I [asked myself], ‘What’s something that I can really portray in an intimate way?’ and it turned out to be writing.”
“I started to brainstorm what kind of topics I could write about, and then from there on, I started to write a little each and every night, and that turned into Late Night Scribbling,” he continues. “That kind of gave me courage to start Instagram in the first place, that piece of writing.”
Two weeks later, he followed it up with “Black Socks,” a whimsical ode to, well, black socks — complete with accompanying photos of him wearing said socks. Immediately, it feels more confident and cohesive than its predecessor. Using the neat and tidy look of black socks as a metaphor, he describes his own mindset for living life: “Pleasure from perfect alignment; That also goes for my ability to be parallel with my thoughts and actions; I try to live out what’s in my mind, and keep it consistent even when forgotten like a working habit.”
Comments on the posts praise his writing and encourage him to continue sharing these small pieces of himself. On the stage, Mark takes on a confident, larger-than-life persona, while in vlogs and spoken interviews, he’s a bubbly character full of laughter and boyish charm. What the poems show is that, beneath these outer appearances, there’s another layer of complexity that is yet to be fully explored, and it’s not surprising that fans want to know more.
His day job as a K-pop idol doesn’t allow a lot of time for hobbies, though, and he confesses to not having written much lately. Despite that, he’s determined to stay in the industry for as long as possible. “Longevity is something that I’ve always been aiming for,” he says. “I’m willing to do this for a long time, and that requires a lot of work. I’m willing to take that as a challenge and I’m trying to stay as long as I can, but with quality.”
That focus on quality informs his preparations for the upcoming promotions with NCT Dream. In both their fictional world and ours, NCT Dream are a central component of NCT by virtue of their unique focus on growth — the seven members were aged between 14 and 17 when the group first debuted in 2016. Fast-forward five years, and the members are now 19 to 21, having reached a milestone in January when the youngest, Jisung, finally became a legal adult in Korea. When asked if he feels like an adult yet, though, Mark gives an extremely relatable answer with zero hesitation.
“I still feel like I’m in middle school, I’m gonna be totally honest. I swear to God, I feel like I’m… All right, I’ll put it up — I feel like I’m in high school!” He laughs. “I even had this talk with Jisung, ‘cos he’s the latest that turned into an adult. He said that he still feels like he’s a student, he doesn’t feel like he’s 20 [19 in international age] right now.”
It’s been a long time since all seven Dream members — Mark, Renjun, Jeno, Haechan, Jaemin, Chenle, and Jisung — have released an album together, and as the first full-length album since their debut, the fan anticipation is palpably intense. Mark himself has mentioned in various vlogs how important he believes this comeback to be, and that conviction becomes obvious whenever he talks about it.
“We had a talk all together, the seven of us, without any cameras or anything. I brought all the guys together and we talked before the whole momentum started, and I said that I’m willing to put my everything on this one. Like, I always had, but I feel like… the whole universe, or like— ” He pauses, trying to figure out how to articulate himself, and his next line is the most emphatic of our whole conversation. “There are things that are out of our control, but we can see and feel when the pieces match together sometimes, and I feel like this specific moment, this particular album, kind of had those essential parts.”
He’s thinking about all of the context surrounding this comeback: the group’s coming of age, the reunion of all seven members, the scale of the album, the fact that Jisung has only just recovered from a leg injury that meant he couldn’t dance for months — even the fact that 2020 was, against all odds, the best year yet for NCT, with release after release bringing them unprecedented success and momentum.
“I felt that coming and I explained all of that [to the group],” he continues. “This whole period of time has a lot of meaning to it, and we’re not taking that for granted, we’re working hard.” With everything that’s happened, Hot Sauce is a historic moment for NCT Dream, and that’s been reflected in their numbers — the album clocked over 1.7 million pre-orders, obliterating their previous record of 500,000 for last year’s EP, Reload.
Their familial bond and the success that has come with it is the culmination of years spent living, working, and growing up together. The members have collectively missed out on key experiences that most teenagers might take for granted, distanced as they are from normal life, and the group also benefits from an unusually loose adherence to traditional Korean age hierarchy. The result is a brotherhood that goes beyond just being colleagues. “What we have is pretty intimate, and it’s also genuine,” Mark says.
About his role, he is matter of fact. “I’m by far the most easily approachable punching bag for the team. I am not… complaining…” He laughs. “But all jokes aside, I feel like my role for this team… Yes, I am the oldest and I am the leader but I’m also… In Korea, in the culture, age is very important, but we’ve come so far that all those borders kind of just vanished and we’re all pretty much friends, and I guess I’m just a friend of theirs too.”
It’s true that, despite being the leader, his friendly personality and endearingly awkward mannerisms mean that he commands about as much authority as a small puppy. Instead, much like a puppy, he is showered with love and affection (fellow member Chenle refers to Mark as his son and his actual puppy Daegal as Mark’s little sister), but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a dependable leader figure. The opposite is true — in Renjun’s words, Mark’s presence unites the group in a way that makes him irreplaceable.
The 21-year-old leader of NCT Dream is enthusiastic as he mulls over the meaning of dreams, his back against a wall of pink and yellow flowers assembled by his fellow NCT members. He’s wearing a simple, white tee, and when he gestures with his hands, you can catch glimpses of the friendship ring that all seven members of NCT Dream wear as a symbol of their bond.
“I actually feel like dreams hold a large portion of a life, and I’m not just talking about the subconscious dreams that we all have when we sleep,” he continues. “If you put it in a way where dreams are actually things that motivate us, and the drive that keeps us going, especially as a strongly driven person myself, I feel like… a guy with no dreams is like…” He looks up, thinking. “…A car with no engine. So, I think it’s as important as yourself. That’s how deep I go with dreams.”
His interest in dreams is fitting, considering that they are also the central, underlying concept to the lore behind NCT Dream’s parent group, NCT. They connect their three subunits, NCT 127, NCT Dream, and WayV, in a complex, Inception-inspired fictional universe where dreams are the only way they can find each other, and where upon uniting they can mix to form new subunits collectively referred to as NCT U. In practical terms, this has resulted in a 23-member mega-group that is multifaceted in every way — from their musical styles and visual aesthetics to their cultural backgrounds and spoken languages.
NCT Dream’s original teenage concept meant that members were supposed to “graduate” when they came of age, and as the oldest, Mark was the first to leave the group at the end of 2018. Having grown attached, however, fans were devastated at his departure; after a year of separation, SM announced that the graduation system would be scrapped and that he would rejoin the group. Their new album, Hot Sauce, is the first with Mark in over two years. As fellow member Haechan declared in an interview with Teen Vogue earlier this week, “Mark [is] very special. NCT Dream means Mark.”
But before the rapper led NCT Dream, and before he joined NCT U and NCT 127 and SuperM — the man is in high demand — Mark’s childhood dream was writing. He grew up in Toronto, and through doing school projects and essays quickly discovered that he had a natural way with words. Inspired by Percy Jackson author Rick Riordan, Harry Potter, and James Patterson, Mark dreamt of becoming an author, long before he was recruited by SM at a global audition in Canada in 2012. “When I was in school, I was always the kind of guy who would write more than expected, and that became a thing that clicked for me,” he says. “I was like, ‘Maybe it’s something that I naturally do?’ But then that kind of turned into rap writing too, so I guess they kind of clicked together.” It explains his prolific career as a lyricist; since debuting, he’s amassed over 30 songwriting credits across his various groups, contributing to songs as iconic as NCT U’s “Boss,” NCT 127’s “Cherry Bomb,” and NCT Dream’s “Chewing Gum.”
Even with such an extensive body of work, however, penning lyrics hasn’t satiated his appetite for literary expression. In an interview with Japanese magazine Men’s Non-No, he revealed that he still hopes one day to write a book, whether that be a novel, autobiography, or something more philosophical.
In the meantime, he’s taken to writing what are basically short poems on his Instagram, which he created just a few months ago. He’s gathered over 4.5 million followers since then, but having such a large audience hasn’t deterred him from being endearingly vulnerable with the way he writes. When I refer to them as poems, he laughs and looks embarrassed, but when I ask him to tell me the stories behind them, he’s enthusiastic again. They’re short, but offer brief glimpses into Mark the writer — sharp, inquisitive, and thoughtful. As pieces of literature, they’re a little rough around the edges, but the sincerity he’s known for shines through, illuminating the introspective, philosophical side that may not be so obvious in person.
His first poem, loosely titled “Late Night Scribbling,” put into words his musings about sleep, thoughts, feelings, and writing. It meanders from topic to topic, hovering between feelings of hope and hopelessness, before ending with a comically awkward “haha.”
“I actually wrote that by imagining how I wanted to organize my Instagram page,” he explains. “I was thinking of creating an Instagram, then I realized that, well, I’m not really a picture kind of guy, I’m not really a travelling kind of guy… I kind of studied who I am first, and I [asked myself], ‘What’s something that I can really portray in an intimate way?’ and it turned out to be writing.”
“I started to brainstorm what kind of topics I could write about, and then from there on, I started to write a little each and every night, and that turned into Late Night Scribbling,” he continues. “That kind of gave me courage to start Instagram in the first place, that piece of writing.”
Two weeks later, he followed it up with “Black Socks,” a whimsical ode to, well, black socks — complete with accompanying photos of him wearing said socks. Immediately, it feels more confident and cohesive than its predecessor. Using the neat and tidy look of black socks as a metaphor, he describes his own mindset for living life: “Pleasure from perfect alignment; That also goes for my ability to be parallel with my thoughts and actions; I try to live out what’s in my mind, and keep it consistent even when forgotten like a working habit.”
Comments on the posts praise his writing and encourage him to continue sharing these small pieces of himself. On the stage, Mark takes on a confident, larger-than-life persona, while in vlogs and spoken interviews, he’s a bubbly character full of laughter and boyish charm. What the poems show is that, beneath these outer appearances, there’s another layer of complexity that is yet to be fully explored, and it’s not surprising that fans want to know more.
His day job as a K-pop idol doesn’t allow a lot of time for hobbies, though, and he confesses to not having written much lately. Despite that, he’s determined to stay in the industry for as long as possible. “Longevity is something that I’ve always been aiming for,” he says. “I’m willing to do this for a long time, and that requires a lot of work. I’m willing to take that as a challenge and I’m trying to stay as long as I can, but with quality.”
That focus on quality informs his preparations for the upcoming promotions with NCT Dream. In both their fictional world and ours, NCT Dream are a central component of NCT by virtue of their unique focus on growth — the seven members were aged between 14 and 17 when the group first debuted in 2016. Fast-forward five years, and the members are now 19 to 21, having reached a milestone in January when the youngest, Jisung, finally became a legal adult in Korea. When asked if he feels like an adult yet, though, Mark gives an extremely relatable answer with zero hesitation.
“I still feel like I’m in middle school, I’m gonna be totally honest. I swear to God, I feel like I’m… All right, I’ll put it up — I feel like I’m in high school!” He laughs. “I even had this talk with Jisung, ‘cos he’s the latest that turned into an adult. He said that he still feels like he’s a student, he doesn’t feel like he’s 20 [19 in international age] right now.”
It’s been a long time since all seven Dream members — Mark, Renjun, Jeno, Haechan, Jaemin, Chenle, and Jisung — have released an album together, and as the first full-length album since their debut, the fan anticipation is palpably intense. Mark himself has mentioned in various vlogs how important he believes this comeback to be, and that conviction becomes obvious whenever he talks about it.
“We had a talk all together, the seven of us, without any cameras or anything. I brought all the guys together and we talked before the whole momentum started, and I said that I’m willing to put my everything on this one. Like, I always had, but I feel like… the whole universe, or like— ” He pauses, trying to figure out how to articulate himself, and his next line is the most emphatic of our whole conversation. “There are things that are out of our control, but we can see and feel when the pieces match together sometimes, and I feel like this specific moment, this particular album, kind of had those essential parts.”
He’s thinking about all of the context surrounding this comeback: the group’s coming of age, the reunion of all seven members, the scale of the album, the fact that Jisung has only just recovered from a leg injury that meant he couldn’t dance for months — even the fact that 2020 was, against all odds, the best year yet for NCT, with release after release bringing them unprecedented success and momentum.
“I felt that coming and I explained all of that [to the group],” he continues. “This whole period of time has a lot of meaning to it, and we’re not taking that for granted, we’re working hard.” With everything that’s happened, Hot Sauce is a historic moment for NCT Dream, and that’s been reflected in their numbers — the album clocked over 1.7 million pre-orders, obliterating their previous record of 500,000 for last year’s EP, Reload.
Their familial bond and the success that has come with it is the culmination of years spent living, working, and growing up together. The members have collectively missed out on key experiences that most teenagers might take for granted, distanced as they are from normal life, and the group also benefits from an unusually loose adherence to traditional Korean age hierarchy. The result is a brotherhood that goes beyond just being colleagues. “What we have is pretty intimate, and it’s also genuine,” Mark says.
About his role, he is matter of fact. “I’m by far the most easily approachable punching bag for the team. I am not… complaining…” He laughs. “But all jokes aside, I feel like my role for this team… Yes, I am the oldest and I am the leader but I’m also… In Korea, in the culture, age is very important, but we’ve come so far that all those borders kind of just vanished and we’re all pretty much friends, and I guess I’m just a friend of theirs too.”
It’s true that, despite being the leader, his friendly personality and endearingly awkward mannerisms mean that he commands about as much authority as a small puppy. Instead, much like a puppy, he is showered with love and affection (fellow member Chenle refers to Mark as his son and his actual puppy Daegal as Mark’s little sister), but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a dependable leader figure. The opposite is true — in Renjun’s words, Mark’s presence unites the group in a way that makes him irreplaceable.
And while this may be the fifth year since their debut, in the grand scheme of things, the members of NCT Dream are still very, very young — by most standards, they would still be considered to have their entire careers ahead of them. Growth has brought them here, but where does Mark think it will take them in the future?
“Growing just never stops for us, I can see us growing continuously, endlessly,” he replies. “What the future holds is something that we will never know, but we always do try to prepare during the present, and so with whatever time we have currently and with whatever album, or whatever stage, or whatever piece of music it may be, we’re willing to make sure that we have the next one coming too.”
A final thought. “I’m glad that we’re striving for that, ‘cos we started off as…” Mark shakes his head, “…as babies.”
© Teen Vogue
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Teen girls who idolize older men like Justin Bieber and Harry Styles and want to have relations with him even though they underage
I think we also need to address the issue of teen girls (12 - 17) years who are quite desperate to quickly have a bf for validation and are not considered the "coolest popular girls" in their school, they purposely seek out fully grown men who do give them attention or "rich" college and older guys who would pay for them on dates and let ride in his expensive cars. Several teen girls really do do that, without considering they might be used or that a grown man lusting over a developing underage girl is inherently wrong and unnatural, because they just want to:
- quickly have a bf
- feel like a 20 year old or "come of age" already, because they want to feel "glam" like the media-portrayed grown women alr, and they want to grow up quick cuz they know their current age is awkward and hard
- feel like they can alr use their "sexual prowess" on dudes alr, just to feed their ego and vanity for beauty, never mind that he's just looking for an easy more innocent target or not.
- feel "cooler and more popular", especially when they are riding the car with richer pedos or getting Cartier or Gucci just after a few dates with them.
- "he's handsome for an old man"
- other reasons
Without thinking that once they turn 18 or older, they stop being teen girls alr, and these kind of pedo men will dump them and not love them anymore, because theyre not young anymore. These teen girls dont realize that they successfully enable pedos or teen girl predators to manage to pull one over them and do that bad behaviour, successfully having and ending r/s with a teen girl once again.
Once these teen girls become old, they get damaged and used by those older men that pursued them, left with nothing but a higher body count and some useless goods that arent trendy anymore. That they werent being loved as a person but as a "young tool" only for their looks pussy and underage. And on the topic of enabling, its just sad to know that many grown men celebs who are teen girl idols, have managed to use a lot of their underage girl fans this way and some underage girl fans who ran away to become groupies as well, instead of working on themselves and levelling up, they just throw away self-improvement and chase a pedo man.
Even until now, some of those women who have fxcked grown men stars like Justin Bieber or Aaron Carter when they were underaged girls themselves, dont regret it cuz minimal damage was done to them(but not to most others, they are just the fortunate outliers). They are the deranged pickmes saying "its ok for older person to have r/s with younger one" and "lower age of consent". Very bad.
A lot of teen girls should have this widespread message sent to them about grown men who "want to date 15 year old teens" just preying on their insecurities and lack of attention only, then maybe they'd stop enabling on their part and not get used before they get older and realized it too late.
ur so right & i think what's ultimately so sad abt it is that.... what those teen girls want is a normal thing to want at their age, i think. it's completely normal that as u go through puberty you fantasise about being grown-up, and also completely normal that girls who aren't ~popular~ or ~cool~ fantasise about having someone special and powerful who will appreciate her for everything she is and make all the other girls jealous. teen girls have had obsessive crushes on male pop stars for as long as there have been pop stars. and everyone knows that's normal so no-one wants to admonish the girls for it, but everyone places their faith in adult men to like. be human beings and not take advantage, to let girls have their crushes but steer well clear of them. and u can't place your faith in adult men to not be sick creeps. u simply cannot.
as u say, so many of those pop stars/rock stars/whatever take advantage of this and statutory rape (or in many cases just flat-out rape) teen girls just because they can and it's sickening. and like always we're left with the only thinkable solution being to try and re-educate the girls, to try and explain to them that they're not as worldly as they think they are and that older men are trying to take advantage of them - and let’s be totally honest here, 90% or so of teenagers are NOT going to listen to that! you can't tell them they're not worldly! you can't tell them they're vulnerable! as far as they're concerned, they're practically grown adults and they're soooo mature and smart and they know exactly what they're getting into. like u say, they often think they're using their "sexual prowess" (you're 14. you don't have sexual prowess. the thing you have that they are interested in is simply that you are underage and easy to manipulate) and that they've got these older men in the palm of their hands or whatever. so i don't see that trying to get that message through to teen girls is going to be all that successful - hence why this issue is still ongoing when many people HAVE tried to get that message through already.
how about we just start castrating any 20+ male who makes any moves on any girl 16 or under. that'll get the message thru i think. teen girls can have their teen fantasies but adult men will very clearly know what will happen to them if they humour those fantasies.
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Lan Wangji makes extremely deadpan videos of his daily life with Wei Wuxian and their kids and nephews (and nieces if JC and JYL had more). This would include:
*shows a video of LWJ staring out the window for a solid thirty seconds, face entirely unchanged and somewhat disappointed, turns camera around to show Wei Wuxian and the kiddos putting mentos in soda bottles and trying to chuck them at each other, camera pans back to his face, still entirely devoid of emotion*
That one time Jin Ling got stuck up a tree and Wei Wuxian tried to get him down and also got stuck up there and now the other kids are looking for a ladder while LWJ just watches them from the patio, drinking tea. The kids finally give up and shamefully come to LWJ and ask him for help, he gets his husband and nephew down without a word.
The one where he buried 5yo A-Yuan in a pile of bunnies and got scolded by Lan Xichen for it because they might bite him if they get annoyed with him.
There is an entire compilation of rabbits that won’t leave him alone. Climb into his lap. Follow him with every step. Get excited when he comes outside. Hear a guqin and start looking for him. Just. He’s the rabbit whisperer. One of the black ones is just about always with him.
Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian interacting in any capacity is going to involve a lot of hitting each other and pushing each other over. Only-child kids think they hate each other, but people with siblings are all ‘no no, siblings are just Like That’. People think Yanli is all innocent till they realize she def only tells them to stop when she thinks they might actually get on each other’s nerves. She’s in the ‘boys will rough house and probably only have one collective braincell’ category.
People won’t stop asking him if he speaks so he vaguely makes mentions of having extremely low verbility. They ask if he does sign and he’s not really sure how (lol cause words hard) to explain to them that sign doesn’t really help when the issue is more of him not having much to say tbh. This is apparently the wrong thing to say because then people start being all ‘yeah I get you, I’m pretty dumb too, at least you’re pretty’ and he’s just sorta sitting there with this smacked fish look on his face while WWX can’t stop laughing next to him at the very idea of someone calling his husband slow. Wow. LWJ just sorta finally gets out that he has like two degrees and teaches giqun lessons and it’s amazing. The kids find out about it and can’t stop laughing for hours.
“Hey, why did you name your son ‘sorrow and longing’?” *commense 10 minute video of that time Wei Wuxian got arrested for something to do with a satanic ritual and that’s when LWJ ended up with custody of his adopted son for the next three years and he was in a really angsty mood tbh so it just kinda happened* not a single commenter expected that, even less so when he mentions that they weren’t even together at that point
Films what the viewers think is a prank at first, where he pours a dangerous amount of chili powder into a mug of hot chocolate (with a completely straight face) and then brings it to WWX who takes a drink and makes a dreamy little sigh and goes ‘you always know how to make it just like I want it’ and no one is sure how to react to this video. It’s like watching someone peel and eat a lemon.
You know that video of the girl with the deadpan voice saying she went downstairs to take a shower and there was something brown in the bottom of the tub but it turned out to be potatoes and she’s all ‘not a problem I was expecting, but a problem I can handle’? Okay so that’s how he talks in every video. WWX hands him a baby and he talks to them exactly like that. People ask if he’s good with kids and WWX is all ‘yeah, he’s not just a rabbit whisperer, he’s a baby whisperer too, he’s super great with kids’ *shows LWJ talking to a baby in That Voice while the baby looks at him in utter adoration*
“What’s it like growing up gay? Do you ever get shit for it?” LWJ.exe has stopped working, he has only met one straight couple the same age as him and they’re his sister in law. His brother has three boyfriends, one of which is his brother-in-law. He doesn’t know what a het-er-o-sexual is and he doesn’t want to. Pretty sure his uncle is acearo and hasn’t seen his parents in like 20 years.
LWJ: ‘I apologize for being so emotional in my last video.’ *viewers scrambled to find what video he meant because they ain’t ever seen that man emotional before but end up finding a video where Sizhui told him he loved him and called him papa and gave him a hug while WWX filmed, you can barely see LWJ’s left eye twitching and he pets Sizhui’s head for a moment* viewers are very confused on how this constitutes emotionalism.
Viewers ask to see his brother ‘you know, the one who apparently has three boyfriends’ and LWJ posts a video of LXC passed out on a couch with like three fully grown men all in various states of sliding off onto the floor while the teens play a game of ‘who can stack the most random objects on uncle’s bodies without them waking’ because apparently LWJ and WWX were gone for a weekend and the uncles were supposed to watch the kids (like, all ten of them probably, there’s probably a lot of kids) and it’s Sizhui filming the whole thing cause he’s the ‘good one’ and never does bad things. But he’s also like Auntie Yanli and is totally gonna egg them on from the sidelines.
WWX hands LWJ literally any food and LWJ will eat it all with a completely straight face but as soon as WWX is turned around LWJ is chugging a glass of milk with a look of death on his face. The kiddos straight up can’t stomach his cooking.
😭 someone asks why their hair is all so long and LWJ puts up a video of chatty adorable Sizhui braiding WWX’s hair while he tells him about his day at school. It’s. Too. Cute.
The never ending debate on if LWJ’s deadpan personality/speech is acting or not. No matter how much everyone assures them he’s really just Like That people just aren’t convinced.
Someone points out several times that in their house they have a room with a satanic symbol on the door. That’s just WWX’s home office it’s all good. This is treated as ‘lol WWX is so dramatic’ for like four whole weeks before LWJ posts a video of Sizhui standing outside the office looking nervous. ‘What’s wrong?’ He says. ‘Dad called me into his office.’ Sizhui replies. ‘WWX must be a very strict father,’ the viewers think. That’s not it. That’s not it at all tbh. That video got flagged on like four different platforms and kept getting removed for graphic images and half their viewers don’t. Want. To know. What happened. In that office. (WWX doesn’t even see what the big deal was, that goat was dead when he bought it shut up.)
The others do videos sometimes too lol. Videos include
Jin Ling’s compilation of ‘Mom, what’s for dinner’ and the answer is Always Lotus root and pork rib soup. Someone asks ‘lol she must make that often’ and JL is all ‘lol often, fairly sure she got same-food syndrome, it’s always soup’.
Lan Sizhui at like 17 years old: The one true secret I’ve never told my dads? My most shameful lie? Rabbits aren’t my favorite. My favorite is butterflies. *proceeds to cuddle a bun* I’m sorry Mister Bun, but you just aren’t nearly as pretty as butterflies.
Shaky video of someone sitting on the couch, pointed at NMJ: Brother, while you’re away on vacation with your boyfriends, I don’t plan on leaving this spot for even a minute. NMJ: Oh yeah? What’ll you do when you have to use the bathroom? NHS: Listen, I found a guy on Craig’s List who’s exact fetish is lazy young men who refuse to move and also diapers exist and he’ll be my slave for the week if I let him change me. NMJ: ...I’m taking you with me on vacation. NHS: Yay! NMJ: I’m also taking your phone away. NHS: -wait, no- NMJ: Too late.
Jin Ling: JiuJiu, I spilt soda on your Valentino white belt. Jiang Cheng: *incomprehensible sputtering* -soda on my Valentino white belt-!
Sizhui: *brings Jingyi a bowl of food* Here. Jingyi: Thank you! *takes a bite, face falls in terror, gives Sizhui a betrayed look* Sizhui: Dad’s worried I’m getting sick, he said this would clear my chest cold up. He didn’t consider what horrible things it would do to my bowels instead. Please eat it, he gets sad when I don’t finish what he makes. Jingyi: *glaring* Just dump it down the garbage disposal! Sizhui: *def has a fever if he didn’t think of that* Oh. Good idea.
LWJ: *swaying in place* WWX: This bitch drunk as hell. LWJ: I’m. Gonna comit. A crime. WWX: *crying a little* I love drunk hubby times. A full shot of vodka and he’s not gonna remember any of this. Hey kids, I’m taking Papa on a walk! Sizhui’s in charge!
Zizhen: *sitting quietly on the couch while LSZ, LJY and JL all argue behind him somewhere, covering his mouth with a slightly horrified look* Jingyi: I mean, that’s not fair at all! Who HASNT made out with their cousin at one point or another? Ling: ... Sizhui: You said you’d never bring that up again please shut up. Ling: ...!!!!!! Zizhen: Amazing.
That one time the kiddos hypnotized Jin Ling into thinking he was a kitten. The adults all thought it was really weird that he was finally going through the whole ‘pretending to be an animal’ phase at like ten, but then the kiddos fessed up to learning how to hypnotize and they aren’t sure how to fix it. WWX instigated a rule that no brainwashing is allowed outside his office from now on.
People ask how WWX and LWJ met and it’s told from the POV of Lan Qiren who progressively getting drunker as he tells the story of the terrible high school romance that he had to watch between bad boy WWX and his precious baby angel nephew that made him consider quitting and how no one believed them when they insisted they didn’t get together till after WWX got out of jail for the cow incident.
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A beautiful, awkward thing.
Flirting?
You expertly drive the four of you to the restaurant, ignoring Nick’s pleas for you to slow down and Clay’s slightly green face.
When you finally arrive at the restaurant, you and the three boys are seated at a booth. You slide into the seat facing the door and as Nick goes to sit by you, George pulls him back, plopping himself down next to you. You blush slightly, enjoying the possessive nature that George rarely shows.
Clay smirks at Nick, winking at him knowingly.
“What can I get for y’all today?” The waitress asks, setting menus in front of each of you.
You smile up at her, “Just a water please.”
“I’ll take a Mountain Dew.” Nick says, smiling a little too widely at the cute waitress.
Clay nods, “Me too.”
George looks at you intensely and your cheeks start to heat up a little. “Oh- uh, a water too.”
The waitress nods once before walking away to gather your drinks. You lean slightly into the table, “Who the fuck gets mountain dew at a restaurant.” You tease the boys. “That’s a drink you get a fucking liter of when you’re drunk at a 7/11. Not in a restaurant.”
Nick holds his hands up, “Hey. I got taste.” You giggle as Clay starts to wheeze.
“Nick you do not have taste at all.”
Your hands were placed by your side on the seat so that you could lean forward when you felt something touch it. You look down to see George’s pinky resting slightly against yours, making you bite your lip and smile. You look over at George to see him staring down at the menu, his own cheeks rosy.
Clay furrows his brows and looks between the two of you, trying to figure out what just happened. You move your pinky closer to his, so that they’re fully touching and George slowly links your hands together.
Nick clears his throat and your neck snaps up to look at him. “Yes?” You ask him.
“You guys better not be groping each other under the table.” He says boldly and your face flares up.
George looks up at him in shock. “Nick! What the hell?” He says, stuttering slightly. You felt bad for the poor boy. Clay wheezes, hitting the table once, catching the attention of nearby patrons. You smile at them awkwardly and cover your face with your free hand.
“Can we all just play nice and be adults here?” You moan, your eyes wandering to George. He was already looking at you with a gentle smile, but quickly averted his gaze when the two of you locked eyes.
An hour and a half passed and the four of you left the restaurant with full bellies. Nick belches loudly, “That was so good (Y/N).” He says, patting his stomach.
You laugh, holding your own. “I told you that was my favorite restaurant. A gal has got taste.”
Clay nods appreciately, “A gal does have good taste.” He says, looking over at George who has been uncharacteristically quite. You smile and look over at him as well, the two of you brushing hands every so often as the group slowly walks to the car. His hand had left yours when the food arrived and you’ve missed it ever since. You want him to just reach out and grab your hand, but you know he moves slowly. So ungodly slow.
Once you reach the car, Nick and Clay get into it, claiming they needed to sit down to relieve the pressure on their sore stomachs. George grabs your hand gently, preventing you from getting in as well. “(Y/N)…” He mumbles, trying to gather the courage to tell you the truth. The honest truth. Clay had texted him repeatedly throughout dinner, telling him its now or never as the three of them would be leaving tomorrow.
The two of you walk to the back of the car, trying to get some privacy from the boys in the backseat.
“Yes, Georgie?” You ask, leaning your head up to see him better.
“I-I…” He trails off, playing with your fingers so he doesn’t have to meet your gaze.
You smile up at him. In that moment you decided to take pity on the poor boy. You had assumed that he liked you back, the hand holding and the strong gaze when he thought you wouldn’t noticed had only piled up the evidence. That and Clay had texted you when the three of them were driving up that George could not stop talking about you.
“I know.” You whisper softly, taking his hands in yours. That catches his attention and he finally meets your gaze, his cheeks burning red.
“You know?” He asks, his brows furrowing together as he tries to understand what you mean.
You shrug. “I know. I like you too, George.” How could you not? The hour long facetimes late into the night, the secrets that you haven’t been able to share with anyone else, the nicknames, and the way he always brings you the first diamond he finds in Minecraft. How could you not have fallen for this awkward British boy.
George looks at you, shock covering his face. “You do?” He whispers excitedly as a grin explodes from him. “You do!” He whispers again.
You nod, giggling. “I always have.” You assure him, “I have since day 1.”
George takes a step closer to you, his hand coming up to rest on your cheek. You tilt your head up towards him, waiting for him to make the first move. He pauses, looking down at your intently.
“Can I… Can I kiss you?” He stutters, leaning down so that your noses are touching slightly.
“I would very much like that.” You whisper, your eyes fluttering closed as your lips touch. As he kisses you, you feel your world slide into place. Kissing George felt so right, so easy. It felt like you two had found each other in a sea of pieces that didn’t quite fit right. His arm loops around your back, his movements suddenly sure and confident as he pulls you closer. Your arms link behind his neck as you stand on your tip toes, desperate to get closer to him. His body warmth bleeds through your thin sweatshirt, warming you up as you push your bodies closer together. George finally pulls away, his eyes bright as he stares down at you with a loving smile.
“We do should that more.” He jokes, his hand linking with your once again.
You giggle, rolling your eyes. “Slow your roll there, big boy.” You joke and look over at the backseat to see Clay and Nick pushing their faces against the glass, their eyes wide as they start to yell. You cover your face, laughing as George pumps his fist in the air.
“He finally did it!!” You hear Clay scream, muffled by the glass as he shakes Nick by the shoulders.
The two of you sheepishly get back into the car. The following 20 minute ride back to the hotel is torture as the two boys relentless tease your budding relationship. George only shakes his head and laughs, his hand never leaving your thigh as you drive.
That night, George didn’t stay at the hotel. Instead, he chose to come back to your apartment with you where you spent the night in his arms. You wouldn’t dare to say that he has grown less awkward around you. He still stutters slightly when he says a cheesy pick up line and whenever you touch him, his cheeks heat up. But you adore him more for it. It’s fine with you if you’re the confident cocky one in the relationship, always making him flustered with your compliments. It’s a beautiful, awkward relationship that you cannot get enough of.
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Okay, I literally wanted to write this, because all these George fics I read portray him as a confident, suave man who always knows what to say. I feel like that’s not him at all, like I feel like he’d be super awkward and terrible at flirting. So enjoy awkward George.
Dream Team, if you see this. No you didn’t. But also hi I’m 19.
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Wanted to ask about beetlelyds, sorry, I thought it was technically cannon? Like in the old comics after the show ended she grew up and married him. Sorry I’m an old school fan and have no idea why this whole thing is such a big deal. Wasn’t the actor like 20 too? I’m sorry if I sound very dumb. I’m not used to this new tumblr.
youre fine you are one hundred percent allowed to especially when you do it civilly as you have done here
first of all the biggest issue faced in the whole what is and is not canon debate is the fact that there are three (four if you count the limited comics run) publicized iterations of my media
i will go over each very briefly just kidding this is going to a long answer so i will spare the dashboard with a readmore
there is the movie which im sure you dont need me to explain the plot since youre an old school fan but basically the climax is that yes beetlejuice does go for the marriage angle in exchange for stopping the exorcism of adam and barbara and his motive for this is so that he can cause as much chaos as he wants on the mortal coil but his plan is thwarted when barbara rides a sandworm into the house which promptly eats beetlejuice sending him to bureaucratic death limbo
the end of the movie features the deetz and the maitlands happily living together with lydia havign a new appreciation for her situation and beetlejuice gets his head made real small which is very funny haha
so no in the movie they are not canon editors note the actress who played lydia winona ryder was a teenager while filming the movie she turned 17 the year it released
the next is the cartoon which i will admit has the most grounds for being considered canon but in the end the show is about a middle schooler and her best friend who is a ghost which in itself is a pretty iffy gray area sort of thing but for a childrens cartoon to work a friendship is better than the obvious enemy status they held in the movie
anyway in the cartoon they are potrayed to be very close friends with lydia being the person beetlejuice cares about the most and honestly if you were to watch it with no prior knowledge of the media and if you ignored their massive and obvious age difference than yeah you probably would read it as a romantic relationship
however lydia is a middle schooler and that is simply immoral
there have been writers for the cartoon who have been credited to say that a relationship is what they were trying to invoke but for obvious reasons they couldnt exactly move forward with that angle with them establishing that lydia is a child in middle school and a fully grown adult man dating a child who is in middle school is immoral and also illegal in the united states and in canada
this isnt a good argument for whether or not something is canon and i will tell you why with one simple name and that is luke weber
if you dont know who luke weber is he was a storyboard artist on the cartoon steven universe he is known for making a lot of self ship artwork of him and the character pearl
he worked on the show isnt his material canon no of course it isnt it wasnt put in the actual publication and also if memory serves he was eventually asked to leave the project after he drew art of the shows creator giving him permission to date pearl and calling them her otp and a lot of fans hated this because the most generally accepted interpretation of pearls character is that she is sapphic so a lot of people took issue however that again is just a widely perceived headcanon it is never stated what her actual sexuality is no one in that show is because it isnt a show about that its about wait im getting off topic sorry
what im saying is what can truly be considered canon is what you see on the screen and with the cartoon they are definitely the most friendly with each other and that is why so many people in the beetlebabe shipping community take so much stock in the cartoon because it is the easiest to read the relationship between the mas romantic although that is not what the show actually provides in black and white terms
interpretation does not equal canon and in this case no matter what anyone says the fact remains that in the cartoon itself they are friends good friends yes but friends all the same
it is definitely not a show about a grown man grooming an adult and if it were you definitely shouldn’t be stanning it the extreme because grooming a minor is wrong and it is apparently a problem in the fandom
anyway if the cartoon and the movie are both products of their time and there was more leniency on content bear in mind this was the same era as notorious animation powerhouse and known predator john k who was a showrunner on ren and stimpy and he maintained a relationship with a teenager which was an open secret that nobody really took issue with because in that time being a woman in the animation industry was tricky business and your career could be ended easily if you rejected advances luckily time has moved forward and the animation industry although still full of problems of a similar nature at least people are getting called out and punished for it
you can look more into that yourself its really upsetting though
as for comics i havent been able to find good scans of them and im not willing to purchase them but in my search i never found anything about the two of them ever being married in the cartoon again because she is a child i did find a cover where he appears to be getting married and hes asking lydia to get him out of it but im not sure where the comic actually goes all i know is she is standing off to the side shrugging and looking like she doesnt really care
anyway that brings us to the musical which is set in the modern day
in the original libretto lydia is described as thirteen but since they got an actress who was older in the updated librettos she is listed as 15 and the story is pretty similar to the movie the young girl befriends ghosts and they try to scare her family out etc etc
the major difference between the film and the musical are that lydia and beetlejuice are more like friends like in the cartoon
she summons him to help scare after the maitlands attempt doesnt really work so he shows up and they have fun terrorizing people together however she drops him for the opportunity to perhaps get her mom back but when no one will help she goes back to beetlejuice who tricks her into almost exorcising barbara
she agrees to marry him in order to stop the exorcism and he only wants to get married so he can be alive again and cause problems on the mortal coil like in the movie in the musical he states several times its a green card thing whihc obviously doesnt make it okay but still
anyway lydia tricks him and runs off into the underworld before the wedding can happen blah blah blah she goes back blah blah and she agrees to go through with the wedding to save her friends and family with a plan to make him go away for good
theres a very tongue and cheek song called creepy old guy which points out how wrong the whole thing is but everyone is going along with it in a very comedic matter and it includes the line
i cant believe some cultures think this kind of things alright
basically saying yeah this is very very wrong anyway they do get married and beeltjeuice is alive for like 6 seconds before lydia stabs him to death with bad art and he dies thus nullifying the marriage because death do you part etc
so in the musical no at the end of the show they are not canon because he is dead their marriage is nullified and they go their separate ways
anyway sorry about that i just need to make it very clear that these three properties are all very distinct from each other and basically all three are indeed canon since they are publicized material and arguing the validity of which one is pointless editors note all actresses who played with the exception of dana steingold were minors for the majority of their runs as lydia with sophia ann caruso the originator of the role turning 18 during the run and dana being in her late twenties presley ryan however was a minor the whole time and still is one
tldr no they aren’t canon but to the credit of some people in this fandom their interpretation isnt too far of a stretch thanks to the era and some of the writers wishing to imply a relationship between an adult and a child
i also need to address how this is all a big deal and i suggest you take a peak through my discourse tag and check out @leedia‘s blog to see some of the more harmful things done by beetlebabe shippers
the beetlejuice fandom is home to many minors after the musical came out since musical fandom is vast and the ages of its members varies and normalizing pedophilia is harmful to them not to mention the people who have been effected by sexual harassment at the hands of adults
both sides have victims of csa but one side continues to perpetuate the cycle by showing time and time again that this behavior is normal and easily romanticized in the name of coping and literally anyone who has ever been to a good and credible therapist could tell you that posting cp even if it is simulated cp isnt a really good way to cope and you can get mad at me for saying that its totally fine but and im going to remove my character veil here for just a second as a csa survivor myself i think its harmful to not only myself but many others ok the veil is back down
tldr again there is a lot of bullying and harassment going on with both sides having their own issues but there is one side whos issues run a bit deeper in my humble opinion
thank you for your question it allowed me to talk a lot you are welcome to discuss further with me in dms if you wish i honestly recommend giving the musical a listen because it is very fun and despite what some people say its very clever and if you get a chance to see a boot of it its visually stunning
one last note that i couldnt really fit in here but a large portion of the beetlebabes shipping community ignore the musical because it openly condemns the idea of beeltejuice and lydia having a relationship and a lot of the antis take issue with much of the writing and characterizations of the cartoon just a note that i think is important since were talking about canon
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