#he has a lot of queer friends so he already is known as an ally but there's always a chance it will be different if it's family
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As a reminder that good exists out there, a coworker recently confessed to me that he found out his child is questioning their identity (kid's gender redacted for this post). The kid is keeping it from him, so he can't say anything to them or show that he knows, but he's doing his best to get mentally prepared and educated so that he'll be ready whenever his kid does feel comfortable enough come to him.
For context, this guy is a big, bulky middle aged dude who loves sports and typical outdoor "manly" activities. As his coworker and friend, I know he's a kind and sweet teddy bear of a person, but his kid probably views him as a stern, authoritarian figure, the way most teenagers view their parents. His family lives in a conservative area, so I'm sure between that, their dad's looks and interests, and the fact that their dad is a Figure of Authority, the kid is worried that they won't be accepted.
But you know what? When he found out about his kid, the first thing he did was reach out to his closest queer friend and ask for resources for parents of questioning children. His biggest fears are that his kid will be bullied or discriminated against and won't feel comfortable enough to be themself. His second action was to find himself a mentor in another parent who went the same situation (kid coming out in a conservative town). The other person is preparing him for some of the struggles his kid may face and the fights he may need to take on as a parent to make sure his kid is safe and treated well.
Something I want to emphasize for people focused on language as the primary method of allyship is that when we spoke, he used some outdated terms and thoughts about gender and sexuality. That does not make him bad. These were the terms and thinking used about questioning teenagers when he was growing up and he never needed to learn more current ones. But now that he does have that need, he's throwing himself in head first because that's his kid and he's darn well going to make sure that his kid feels welcomed and has a safe place to be themselves even if they never come out to him.
#I'm so proud and happy for my coworker and I've been trying to figure out how to let him know how amazing I think he is#what gets me the most is that he's keeping this super down low to avoid giving any hints to his kid#he has a lot of queer friends so he already is known as an ally but there's always a chance it will be different if it's family#and he took that chance and crumpled it up into a ball and slam dunked it into the garbage for three points#and decided that even if his kid wants to hide it from him for the rest of his life he will still do what he can to make their life better#pflag#parents doing their best#parenting win#good news#allyship
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Anyone who says that Imogen probably turning out to be a lesbian with comphet or at least some sort of sapphic next season is forced because "it's unrealistic that everyone in a friend group turns out to be queer" is stupid, because that is actually the most realistic thing about the show lmao. Most of my friends from my several different friend groups over the years have turned out to be queer; I came out first and then the others slowly started coming out as well. My current friend group has a single cishet person.
And my best friend right now? She's a lesbian. But-- she didn't know she was a lesbian when I met her four years ago, when I was 17 and she was 15. She thought she was straight. All of her friends at the time were straight, so she assumed she was, too, just not AS boy crazy, even though she pretended she was. Then I switched schools and ended up in her friend group. I was out of the closet already and was the token gay person in the group, so she and I ended up kinda bonding over the fact that we felt a bit left out with the whole boy crazy thing, since all the others talked about was dating guys and a couple of the girls were the typical straight girls who feel uncomfortable around lesbians, so I guess that's part of the reason why my friend also didn't actually feel safe enough to question herself even if she considered herself an ally. My best friend ended up falling out with the others but remained my friend; she had realized could relate more to me than to the others, and at some point, she told me she wasn't sure if she was straight herself, and she actually started questioning herself and figuring out that she was a lesbian and that all this time she just hadn't felt like she was around an environment where she could understand who she was without feeling judgement. Then she got a girlfriend before I did but that's not the point.
My point is that queer people tend to end up in friend groups that are mostly queer, so the friend group on Heartstopper only having Tao as the single cis straight friend is quite realistic. And just like my best friend, and lot more of my friends who didn't come out until I did: a lot of people need an environment where they feel comfortable in order to start questioning themselves, and that is usually around another queer person who will understand what you're going through. So, Imogen realizing she might be gay only just now that she has started being around other openly queer people because before she was around people who expected her to be straight and like boys and date her friend because he's a boy she's known for a while-- it is actually quite realistic. It happens a lot.
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ABC / Half-indonesian/chinese half-english white-passing guy here, I really appreciate the amount of love and passion you(you both?) have put into the recent Superman stuff. I'm not personally that deeply a fan of DC, but being able to see characters that I share experiences with - written by people that are also like me - is a beautiful experience.
It's strange being mixed. I'm not quite either. I still feel like an alien intruding in on spaces I shouldn't be in, either way, but.. Clark does too, as does Ms. Liando. Thank you.
P.S; If/when Lois discovers Superman and Clark are one in the same, how would the dynamics shift, and how would it go? If you have any ideas on that.
Aaw thank you so much (indeed we both wrote and drew the comic)! I totally get it. Being mixed third culture kids ourselves, the concept of "belonging" to a community is a complicated one.
Well now I can't give that all away haha! I still have to cook the idea of Clark coming out to Lois as Superman in the oven for a lot longer before I'm ready to write it (mentally, it feels like a relationship milestone that they hit and not a story with themes quite yet), but here's what we're definitely not going to do:
Lois jumps off a building (or puts herself in danger) to force Clark to out himself before he's ready ā
Lois smugly interrupts Clark before he comes out as Superman, showing off that she knew already āā
Lois gets mad at Clark for keeping secrets āāā
Lois tries to harm Clark to prove he's Superman āāāā
Lois Liando would understand as a fellow immigrant why Superman would hide himself and go by a different name. That's one of the things the Private Interview comic was about after all! They both had secret identities of their own, in different ways. Of course she's curious, but she does respect Superman not wanting to tell her that yet. I like to believe Liando has the emotional intelligence to understand that superheroes keep secret identities to protect people they care about on top of that. And the idea of Liando trying to out an immigrant before he's ready makes no sense to me.
At most I can say she'd feel complicated about it. The closest analogy I can think of is having a queer friend who you've known for years and are super tight with, but they only trusted to come out to you recently. Regardless of how good an ally you are, or if you're queer too, you'd feel complicated about it. Why did it take so long? Did you do something that made them doubt telling you until now? etc. It's important to me that Lois and Clark become really close and have known each other for years before he finally tells her. The slow burn of mutual trust ā
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#askjesncin#if I headed a Superman show the entire first season would be Lois and Clark being platonic work partners. no romance until S1 finale#it's the build up of mutual respect in a field they both share WITHOUT attraction in the equation. ā
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#i imagine the Private Interview is the first time they're both like ?? do I like him??? do I like her?? yeh I'm srs about slow burn
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Never have I ever game-- you're known for playing with the source material in ways that don't change canon's outcome, but would you ever do a non-canon Black Sails take? An AU that is entirely different setting from pirates, mod au, fairytale au, space au, cowboy au, etc?
Oh that is a great question. I don't generally do AU, and especially not modern AU, because for me personally it is hard to put them into a high enough stakes environment to explore the elements of the show I'm interested in. HOWEVER. There is one that I started to consider a while ago and have pretty thoroughly fleshed out, and have a serious plan to start once other projects are finished, and that is: Russian Revolution AU! Ok. Stick with me here. [Or don't. I'm going to put this under a cut, it is a lot, and may not make very much sense if you don't already know something about the historical period.]
So, I love the idea of using the Russian revolution as a way to explore some of the same dynamics as the show because it is a period in which there was a lot of righteous idealism, and then it all went very wrong, which naturally brings up questions of ideological commitment vs survival, what are you willing to sacrifice, how do your ideals hold up in the real world, etc. It is also a time when how queerness was treated was very in flux, fitting well with 'we care if its politically convenient to care.'
Basically, we start in the early 1920s right after Lenin dies. Flint is a general, old guard party member, was a commander in the civil war. He is known for doing Really Heinous Flinty Shit during that period. He is sort of revered but also feared, and very ideologically motivated, and so of course he is about to get his ass purged when Stalin starts to consolidate and bring everybody into line.
Silver (10ish years younger) grew up during the upheaval of the 1905, WWI, 1917. He's his survivalist trauma bundle self, and ends up working as a low level NKVD (early Soviet intelligence) guy. He gets sent to keep tabs on/gather evidence against Flint - there is immediately a Frenemies attraction spark there. For Plot Reasons they have to do something together and become Reluctant Allies. I have some of the actual plot worked out but I'm not going to get much into it here, but there is absolutely a parallel conflict in values to the show, and choice that has to be made at the end.
IN THE MEAN TIME interspersed through all of this, in flashbacks: back sometime in the years right after the 1905 revolution, Flint is a promising young military guy who came up from nothing, and has a Hennessey parallel benefactor who sends him to school to be educated. He falls in with Thomas, who is the son of a minor prince, very queer and getting away with it, and is a radical in the Christian anarchist Tolstoy model. Flint gets radicalized through him and his friends, they spend happy years abroad in exile with Thomas writing and Flint being a tactician and doing direct action stuff. They come back in 1917, the civil war starts, Thomas is basically murdered by his family because he sided against them, and he is still set to inherit. SO, that is why Flint goes all Darkness and gets especially nasty during the civil war.
There is a Miranda proxy as well. I believe she disappears and her disappearance is what sets off Plot Events.
It's also set in St. Petersburg, if anybody is wondering. Moscow, with the level I have Flint at, would involve too much interaction with Actual Historical Figures, and while I know a fair amount about this era and am totally committed to research, but still, that gets to be Much.
So, there you have it, Russia AU! My delusional long-term goal is for this to be different enough from canon that it could be published. Thanks for the ask, it's helping me get excited about that project again!
#a lot of the point of Longfic is actually teaching myself to write well enough to do this#ok this is the last one of these i'll throw in the tag i promise#but i can't resist i love this project so much and will take any opportunity to talk about it#anon#black sails#my writing#fanfic#russia au#ask game#spinning shit out on tumblr is so much easier than writing
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Hello and welcome to my rant from my time on Stranger Things Steddie and Friends Twitter for the past few months.
K I'm really pissed but its fine I wrote this all before the poll thing. Now I just. Can't get rid of it. (Me at tumblr headquarters right fucking now)
Anyway. Sorry for the interruption.
The fact that I've seen several ST fans claim most people who like steddie are fetishizing them is already shitty, but what makes it even more shitty is that they focus on them being two white cis guys fetishized by "white girls".
To reference the two white cis guys first, yeah, you got me there. That really is all those two are in the show. And if you wanna talk representation, well shit! Let's do it! Out of the main cast, we have 3 people of color: Lucas, Erica, and Argyle. Lucas is much too young to be in a relationship with either of them and already has one of his own, and Erica is ten years old. Now, I love Argyle, but he was written to be a comic relief character that had no arc and never met either of them. I think that's a wasted opportunity, Eduardo is great and would've done well as a fully fleshed out character, and there is a conversation to be had about whether that character would've been received the same way Eddie was being a white guy. But the thing is, he was never even CAST as a character who could be compared with Eddie- again, his whole character was "funny stoner." THAT is fucked, and people have definitely decided to ignore that fanon. In fact, Jargyle has become a pretty well known ship! Weirdly enough, the content I've seen of them has majorly been from people who also ship steddie! It isn't as popular as Steddie, though, and I don't think that's ONLY bc of half of the ship has less lore than eddie. There definitely is at least some internal bias us white queer folks should take into account when considering what ships we focus on in media.
However, I don't think that's why it's being brought up. I don't think I read tweets from lesbians with she/her in their bios condemning all us steddie ppl who just ship it because "they're two white guys we can fetishize for being in an mlm relationship" bc they're trying to be good allies. That COMPLETELY disregards that transmasc and nonbinary people (ESPECIALLY transmasc people of color) make a BIG chunk of the steddie fandom. Crazy, it's almost like Eddie was written to represent an outcast and literally GOT TARGETED BY CHRISTIANS and a bunch of people in marginalized communities related to his struggles! Except oh, yeah, that'd exactly what happened. And yeah, okay, he's a white guy and it IS pretty shitty that they cast a white dude to represent outcasts in general, but the people talking shit are watching the SAME DAMN SHOW that has a huge fucking cast and still has minimal representation. Fuck, man, Caleb McLaughlin has faced SO MUCH hate from assholes "fans" as the only black main character. Why the hell are people using that very real issue to back their shitty arguments against a gay ship on twitter?
Again, I wanna preface that 90% of these kinds of comments come from lesbians and bisexual people with she/her or she/they in the bio. I thought yall were COOL with the gay and trans people. Yall ARE queer people. Some of them were even big Ronance or Rovickie fans! YALL. WHY IS FRIENDLY FIRE ON??
A lot of this argument is backed by claims that steddie fans ignore canon queer rep, too, and I just don't understand that.
I know. Robin is representation. I am SO HAPPY to have her, and I'm so happy that Maya pushed for it, and as a transmasc person who was not out at the time and likes girls, I felt very seen when watching her coming out scene with Steve. However, I know I don't fully understand the lesbian experience as someone who likes guys too. I know Robin means a lot to wlw fans, especially lesbians. There have been instances where steddies have co-opted that scene to make it about steddie, and that is not okay. (I've never SEEN this happen, but I've seen people talk about it. All the steddie guys on Twitter that I follow were making it pretty clear that that was not cool and pretty fuckin lesbiphobic. I agree, whoever did that, fuck them. Wlw and specifically lesbian wlw relationships have very little rep and Netflix canceled all their shows and it's super fucked.) But besides this, I actually see a LOT of steddie fans who very much love Robin's character. Most of the steddie artists and fic writers I know are also ronance, rovickie, and/or Buckingham creators. A lot of them are wlw themselves!
//I should also note that Will is canonically gay now and I'm super excited, but truly, I just don't see as much appeal in byler because they're so much younger than me now. I totally love Will as a character, and I was around the kids' ages when the first season came out, but I'm in college now. I relate a lot more to the older kids! I'm real happy to have will as mlm rep and I hope he gets his moment in s5. I just didn't latch onto him and Mike the way I did Steve and Eddie! We all got preferences and that's fine.//
All this to say, I'm just so tired of Twitter, man. I just saw a post about how many cis women who claiming its "ableism" to say they have to be around anyone who identifies as masculine, including queer men, queer mascs, cis men of color, butch lesbians, etc. And I've seen a lot of that lately too. It's just so weird to see someone who identifies as a queer woman talk shit abt a steddie fan with a hellcheer shipper.
(man I can't even get into that rn. Chrissy and Eddie shippers in ST fandom are a whole other bout of drama. I've seen steddies be pretty nasty on the issue toward bi women who ship that bc of age difference, which I never really understood because eddie has no confirmed age?? Like idk how he can be a super senior AND 17 on his missing poster but whatever, I'm not stressing abt that as long as you dont make them have a weird age gap on purpose. Hell, I even thought they were love interests at first, too. But DAMN I've seen some hellcheer people that hate steddie. None of this justification type shit either, they just say "it doesn't make sense" and "I'm scared of steddie" and "they ruined the fandom and eddies character" like bro that's literally homophobia. like oogily boogily gay people jumpscare homophobia. So I just don't talk to those guys usually.)
Whatever abt the straight ppl tho they're never gonna get my weird gay stuff. But what SUCKS is when it's other gay people saying this stuff. Like what about mlm wlw solidarity man? Why do I gotta see a rovickie stan and a hellcheer girl talking abt how steddie shippers are all misogynistic and hate women?? Esp when so many are transmasc?? It's getting weird and TERF-y and I just. I wish we were cool again. ST is abt outcasts at the end of the day, it's why we root for them and relate to them. There aren't even a lot of queer people from the 80s around because of the kinda hatred people like us face. Not to mention racism, ableism, misogyny, all of it. For centuries. The people up top all hate us. We gotta have each other's backs and twitter is making us INSANE instead. God.
Anyway I'm gonna go watch the mandalorian now later losers.
#steddie#gay stranger things#discourse#sorry about this im gonna delete twitter soon#its rotting my brain#fuck twitter
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I still want to hear your sexuality hc about your fav characters like an idiot
Types up small essay:
(I included some gender hcs too, since there's a lot of gender HCs that are very important to me.)
I've already mentioned some of these, but it pains me to make an incomplete list. Also, it's divided by fandom. (for fandoms you aren't in, disregard!)
These are only the ones I'm very attached to and cannot imagine the character without. No worries if you are squicked by or disagree with any of em!
One Piece:
Luffy: Canonically asexual, but I hc him specifically as sex positive. He doesn't really get the point, but would fuck you if you asked. Also NB. Man does not understand the hype around gender in the slightest.
Nami: Sex NEGATIVE asexual, and will only use sex appeal to steal your wallet.
Franky: Trans dude. If he can make himself a robot body, he can make himself a robot dick. Also he's Bi. He never mentions any of this, and is surprised that his crewmates didn't already know.
Zoro: Has legit never thought about it. He has no fucking clue what his sexuality is. He just does what he wants in the moment.
Sanji: There's a solid arguement to be made in canon that my dude is not Cis. (There's simping, and then there's getting euphoria for being in the body of your hot female friend.) I personally HC him as bigender. Also, no way is he actually into ladies.
Homestuck:
Vriska: Trans woman, transitioned super young. Will fight you if you misgender her.
Karkat: Not being able to feel certain quadrants places him on the Troll aromantic spectrum. Troll sexuality is different and my HCs should reflect that!
John: Bi, and doesn't understand that Bi isn't the default. Everyone finds their male friends attractive, that doesn't mean they want to date them! (he is wrong.)
Aradia: Lesbian in red and pitch quadrants.
Roxy: Pan, and uses she/her + Neopronouns (I'd think it/its and nya/nyas fit her vibe.)
Jade: Queer, and very open about having a crush on everyone in her friend group at one point.
The Owl House:
Willow: Trans woman. Her intro episode has so much trans subtext, what can I say!
No South Park Headcanons I'm really attached to, but practically everything but Transfem!Butters has canon backing at this point.
I actually don't headcanon Mr. Kitty as intersex because Ms. Cartman totally replaces Mr. Kitty whenever something bad happens, and that explains the inconsistencies.
Total Drama:
Bi Owen is arguably canon, if played for laughs. (I know the shows old, but yikes!)
But have you considered... closeted Bi Heather? Gives me peak "get out of my school vibes" with Gwen.
Julia seems the type to pretend to be gay on the internet for clout, then realize she actually is gay. She's horrible like that.
I know Wayne is canonically the best Ally, but Harold knows more about LGBTQ+ history than everyone else put together and will happily talk about it when asked. He has helped at least 3 people figure out the name for their sexuality.
I saw someone posting about Aroace DJ, and it has not left my brain since.
Bi Zoey! She's not open about it, due to not wanting to be the only openly queer person in her small town.
Scott is gay, but he also knows very little about sexuality. It takes him embarrassingly long to figure it out.
Jasmine is questioning her sexuality, and Sammy (I will not call her Samey, I refuse.) was her first known crush on a girl. Still love her and Shawn though.
He/they Shawn. Based off vibes.
Priya gives me "me before I realized I was into girls" vibes. I don't make the rules.
Ace Attorney:
Bi Gumshoe. If he's straight, why does he act the exact same around Edgeworth than he does his CANON crush.
Aroace Athena. I cannot imagine her having romantic feelings for anyone, I'm sorry. (Junie had a crush on her at one point though, and she was flattered.)
NB Apollo. His relationship with gender (makes contented buzzing noise!)
Demi Edgeworth: Cannot have a crush on someone without knowing them for 5 years first.
Transmasc. Maya, because gender roles in her village is pretty key to her arc, and that'd be a cool way of exploring that.
I know Bi Phoenix is the prevalent headcanon, but I am a Gay Phoenix enjoyer. His fling with Dahlia reads as Comphet to me.
Danganronpa:
Gonta's relationship with gender in canon is so ??? no way is he cis. I'm giving him the Genderqueer label, but Cisn't. I don't think he's quite figured it out though.
If I am despised for liking Bi Tenko, so be it. It makes sense with what we see of her backstory, and no way am I allowing my fave to be a stereotype.
I am a trans Chihiro enjoyer, but fuck you if you think the people that want to use Chihiro's canon pronouns are transphobic. The whole thing is stupid, and people should be able to have fun with the character without discourse
Very Openly gay, All Pronouns (including Neopronouns!) Ibuki. They lead the GSA at Hope's Peak. Ate a gender for breakfast once.
Demi Taka. Also Demi Mukuro.
Aroace Togami. Man only has an interest in sex because its expected of him, and does not enjoy when someone is sexually attracted to him.
Aroace Makoto with a million QPPs. It doesn't make sense with canon, but it is one of my favorite headcanons.
Bi Toko.
Poly Kaede.
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Just want you to know, bruharvey is kinda already implied by DC. Frank Miller's works Year One and Dark Knight Returns have panels that include homoerotic subtext between them, such as the one with Batman hiding under the desk when Gordon comes in as if they have a secret affair, and Harvey later telling him to "come out", and another panel with Bruce comparing him and Harvey to lovers: "we tumble like lovers". The Jekyll and Hyde comic (notoriously bad btw, do not read) has panels oozing with homoeroticism of Harvey being super affectionate to Bruce. In the Telltale game, the player as Bruce has the option to give Harvey flowers and Bruce says to him, "you'll always be beautiful to me, Harv". The Face to Face arc has Harvey saying he and Bruce went on a date. The Batman vs Two-Face movie jokes about their relationship: "Oh my! Two handsome bachelors who are still best friends after all these years? Oh! It's enough to give a girl the vapors." And you probably already know this but in Detective Comics #1063, a love song plays over their reunion. The BTAS tie-in comics and BTAS itself has a lot of implications of something between them as well. There's just generally a lot of subtext in most Batman media featuring the two. Also this is stupid but it is notable how Harvey is usually Bruce's "damsel in distress", a trope usually relegated to female love interests for men to rescue, and Harvey as a damsel for Bruce surprisingly occurs in a lot of Batman media.
Frank Miller. The first person you decided to list on here is Frank Miller. Known raging racist and misogynist Frank Miller. Frank Miller who, while he did a lot of admirable work on The Dark Knight Returns and Batman: Year One, also wrote and drew one of the worst, most vile comic books out there in Holy Terror (No, not Batman: Holy Terror, just Holy Terror). Now I will admit that I can't personally verify that he's a homophobe (I CAN tell you that he used 'gay' and 'queer' in a very slurry context back in All Star Batman and Robin, but that was also made in the time when using those words like that was more commonplace and seen as acceptable), but I have doubts that he's an ally either. And even if he is, I don't think that we should want him anywhere near us or our community. I wouldn't chalk any homoerotic subtext in anything Frank Miller has written as being intentional, but rather being a result of that toxic obsession with masculinity that Frank Miller is known for indulging. Because we all know that toxic masculinity when taken to its extreme somehow always manages to circle back around to being pretty darn gay without the people perpetuating it ever realizing it. So... Just... Not a great place to start... >.< Also if you're going to take Frank's usage of simile and metaphor on face value as evidence of Bruce and Harvey being into each other... Then that means that Bruce also probably wants to fuck buildings... >.>
THERE'S HOMOEROTIC SUBTEXT IN JEKYLL AND HYDE!!!??? I've heard that it's bad and don't really intend to read it... BUT IF THERE'S HOMOEROTICISM! Please send me the homoeroticism! If you want to stay anonymous, you can just send me the images, I'll delete the thing that you sent it on and make a separate post for it. GIVE ME THE HOMOEROTIC STUFF FROM JEKYLL & HYDE PLEASE! I WANNA SEE IT! Otherwise I may HAVE to read it just to find the homoerotic stuff! Please don't subject me to that fate!
Huh. I've been playing the first Telltale game and I don't remember the option of being able to give Harvey flowers. Damn shame too because with how I play Bruce, he's hopelessly in love with Harvey lol (Unlike >90% of players, I DID NOT sleep with Selina!) I feel pretty convinced that they must have wanted to make Harvey a romancable option in the Telltale game, but that DC didn't let them.
Should I check out the Face to Face arc...? I know nothing about it.
I saw Batman vs. Two-Face and we can agree there! There was not a single straight thing about that film! Also yes, can verify the Detective Comics #1063 thing... Also like... Look at that cover! Wanna see Harvey as a damsel, there you go! And I have watched all of Batman: the Animated series so will agree with you there and I am still working on reading the comics for the animated series. Looking forwards to the issue with the parachute scene... >.>
I do agree with you that there's a fair bit of subtext between Harvey and Bruce out there... I know that it's there and I do see it. But we deserve better than just subtext. We shouldn't take our subtext and just be happy with the scraps we're given. If any of this is intentional (which at least some of it must be), then it just isn't enough. Headcanon is good and all, but I don't want this to be baiting and teasing that goes nowhere. As a minimum they should confirm one or both of them as bi, even if they don't get together. We as a community deserve better than just subtext and teasing! We deserve actual canonical characterization, dammit! And I think that we can actually get it! I think that Bruce and Harvey getting together would just be the right call for them narratively speaking and so want it to actually happen! Make it happen, DC you cowards!
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you know that a boy who likes boys is a dead boy
Summary: Spencer's gay. He joins the BAU and befriends the team, but it is 2003. It's a secret he has to keep. He just didn't expect it to be this hard.
Tags: gay!spencer, coming out, hurt/comfort, insecure!spencer, misunderstandings, angst with a happy ending, dad hotch, protective!hotch, protective!derek, childhood trauma TW: one instance of explicit homophobia, but it is referenced a lot, as is Spencer's internalised homophobia at the start of this fic. A shit ton of heteronormativity but tbh that's just canon lol
Pairing: Spencer Reid/OMC, Spencer Reid & Derek Morgan, Spencer Reid & Aaron Hotchner, The BAU Team & Spencer Reid
Word Count: 6k
Masterlist // Read on AO3
Consider this my contribution to pride month š I've waited so long to post it and I'm so glad I'm finally doing it because it's definitely one of my all time favourites <3 Gideon is here somewhere but just like with all my early season fics he's not really part of the plot I combined my moreid and gen taglists bc it was hard to know the audience for this, but just ignore it if you're not interested!
you know that a boy who likes boys is a dead boy, unless he keeps his mouth shut, which is what you didnāt do, because you are weak and hollow and it doesnāt matter anymore. ā richard siken, a primer for the small weird loves
Spencer has only told one person in his whole life.
His mother guessed. For as long as he can remember, sheās used gender neutral pronouns when talking about his future partner, read him all the gay literature she could find, promised him that heās perfect just the way he is.
The trouble is that Spencer only believes her until the first grade, when Ryan Sampson shoves him over in the playground and calls him gay. His mom had only ever used that term in a sweet, loving way, taking care to associate such words with positivity, as long as his dad wasnāt around to hear. When that word comes out of Ryan Sampsonās mouth, it is not said with sweetness and love; it is said with venom, and Spencer learns quickly that his mom is wrong. He is not perfect just the way he is.
And so, he keeps it a secret. When his mom notices him getting uncomfortable at the mention of future partners, she stops bringing it up, though she refuses to give up the diverse education she provides for him outside of school. His dad tells him that one day heāll be a strapping young man and marry a nice girl in a church, and Spencer nods along. He ignores the way his stomach turns with anxiety at the thought. Ignores the screaming match his parents have that night. Ignores the fact that it started because Diana chipped in with āor boyā.
Heās in high school by the time heās twelve, and the only part heās grateful for is the absence of pressure to get a girlfriend. His dadās out of the picture now, and Spencer tries not to let himself think that maybe if he wasnāt like this he might have stayed. Dianaās so out of it most days that she doesnāt remember what she noticed about him when he was a child, only recalling the last few years of shoving himself so far back in the closet he can hardly see the door anymore.
It feels like heās lost his last ally.
(He hates that a small part of him feels relieved she doesnāt remember; that he almost feels assured by the fact that the last person to know who he really is has forgotten. There is only this version of Spencer Reid now. No other exists.)
He makes the mistake during his second undergraduate degree. Heās just turned eighteen but he is already a doctor and, fortunately, this alienates him from most of his peers, but someone manages to slide past his defences. Ethan Miller is twenty, in the second year of his (first) undergraduate degree in Chemical Engineering, and heās nice. Spencer doesnāt have a lot of experience with friendship, but they get on well and Ethan makes him laugh. For the first time, he feels comfortable in the presence of anyone other than his mother.
They slip into an easy friendship: waiting for each other after class ā Spencer back in the undergraduate buildings now he has his first PhD under his belt ā and going out for ice cream and pizza and Thai food. Ethan goes to parties while Spencer studies, and then they reconvene to watch Doctor Who and play cards.
For almost a year, Spencer keeps his secret carefully locked up, hidden behind the mask heās perfected after so many years. Even though heās eighteen, nearly nineteen now, he doesnāt try and explore that side of himself. No, thatās far too risky. He doesnāt try and pretend any other way either, he just stays silent and lets peopleās assumptions lie for him, but he canāt help the longing that claws up his throat when he locks eyes with a passing guy on campus. One time, heād seen two men kiss on a bench in the city, and heād run back to his dorm and had a panic attack. Why couldnāt he have that?
The feelings donāt stop, and he doesnāt know how to make them. He hates that he isnāt normal, but still longs for the touch of a man, the feeling of being wrapped up in strong arms, of being kissed by dry, chapped lips, and falling asleep to a heartbeat approximately 11% slower than that of a womanās.
Itās a constant battle inside him, emotions raging, and he struggles to control it, suppress it, tame it.
He pays a sorry price.
Ethan makes him feel comfortable, and that turns out to be a detriment. He relaxes around the other boy: he tells him about growing up as a pre-teen in a high school, about how a child feels living 260 miles away from home, even about his motherās illness.
And one day, it slips out. Theyāre on the beach, lying on towels as they look up at the blue sky, talking about what their futures will look like: Ethan will be a successful chemical engineer in Berlin, and Spencer will work for the FBI, profiling serial killers.
āYouāll have to marry a German girl,ā he tells Ethan. āItāll be tough to convince an American girl to move all the way to Germany as soon as you graduate.ā
āYeah, and what about you? Youāll be off fighting crime around the country, not much of a life for a family.ā
āOh, I imagine my husband will be the type toāā
āHusband?ā
Spencer freezes. It shocks him as much as it shocks Ethan. He doesnāt even pay much attention to Ethanās disgusted face and his outraged tirade. He hears slurs and insults, hears him say that he canāt believe Spencer tricked him like this, that he was probably waiting to make a move on him, that he was never to look in Ethanās direction again, but Spencer is frozen in time.
Heās never allowed him to think much about what his personal life might look like in the future, but heād said āhusbandā on instinct, without thinking, and itās clearly something he actually wants. Ethanās words sting, but the moment brings about a realisation Spencer is thankful for; it instigates a journey of self-discovery and self-expression, of the joy of living as your true self.
He loses his first and only friend, but he gains something much more valuable. He visits gay bars ā nervously sipping a non-alcoholic drink in the corner at first, before soon becoming confident enough to respond to the men who sidle up to him and ask for his name. He lets go and dances the night away, sometimes going home with one of the many dance partners he acquires during the night, sometimes heading back to his own dorm happily alone.
Makeup and dresses and skirts and heels make their way into his wardrobe, and he befriends girls and drag queens and other gay men who encourage him to be exactly the way he is. And the best part is, he never has to come out to any of them. All of them know, and thatās good enough for everyone.
The fun comes to a sad sort of slow, however, when he joins the BAU. Everyone knows law enforcementās relationship with the LGBT community is less than adequate ā Spencerās seen it with his own eyes: butch lesbians and men in dresses getting roughed up by angry police officers for ālewd behaviourā or ādrunkennessā when theyāre just being themselves. Itās not safe for him to tell anyone, so he doesnāt.
He still goes out with his friends when heās in town and wears makeup and dresses and crop tops when heās at home, but presents as rigidly straight Dr Spencer Reid to his team at the BAU.
The hardest part about it is that he loves his team. Heās known Gideon for years ā and he wouldnāt be surprised if he suspects something after coming over to his house unannounced one night, only to have a man other than Spencer open the door ā but he settles into a comforting dynamic with Hotch. He canāt help but see him as something of a father figure, and he knows Hotch has a soft spot for him, always looking out for him and taking him under his wing without a momentās hesitation.
Elle, JJ, and Penelope all take a shine to him, too, teasing him without a hint of malice in their tones, only the kind of playful kindness that reminds him of his mother. He forms a special bond with Penelope and they spend hours watching Doctor Who together and geeking out on all the areas their interests overlap, and the comfort he feels with her matches the comfort heās found with his new group of queer friends.
(She doesnāt hold a candle to Ethan, he decides one night, after heād cried at a movie sheād made him watch and she felt so bad she made him hot chocolate and jam toast and cuddled him until he felt better.)
Derek becomes a brother to him. He puts him in a headlock at least once a day ā which Spencer has been reliably informed by multiple sources is a very brotherly thing to do ā and teases him relentlessly, while simultaneously being fiercely protective of him. Enough so, that Spencer sometimes wonders if he even has Hotch beat in that department.
He loves his team and his team loves him. It should be simple. It is still 2003.
He comes in one morning late for a briefing, his shirt buttoned wrong and his hair is a mess, and heās fairly sure that his attempt to cover the hickey at the base of his neck with concealer has been ultimately unsuccessful. Itās obvious why heās late. Gideon is too engrossed in the case file to notice, but Hotch raises an eyebrow, an amused look on his face as everyone else immediately takes to teasing him.
āWhoās the lucky lady, pretty boy?ā
Elle raises an eyebrow to match Derekās shit-eating grin, āSomeone definitely got some strange last night.ā
āWhen do we get to meet her, Spence?ā JJ asks, smirking as he takes a seat.
Heās bright red ā as if he needed to look any more debauched ā and Spencer tries to ignore the hurt that seizes his chest at the reminder of his need to stay quiet. This team respects him, and he canāt throw that away just because Spencer gets too comfortable.
God, he wishes Penelope was here.
āNone of your business,ā he mutters, trying to keep his tone light. He fails.
Naturally, Hotch notices and swiftly moves the briefing on, and Spencer keeps his gaze locked on the case file, not missing the absence of a reprimand from his superior. Heās constantly thankful for the older man, but in this moment, he wishes he could hug him.
(A voice that sounds dangerously close to Ethanās rises up and taunts him in his ear: he wouldnāt want a dirty homo like you anywhere near himā)
Derek doesnāt let up on the case, continuing to bug him about the special lady in his life. He does concede that it couldāve been a one night stand, which is one front heās right on, but a couple more concessions are necessary before Derek comes close to the truth of last night.
Eventually, Derek stops, and Spencer notes that the cessation of comments comes suspiciously close to the last time Derek and Hotch were alone together. He doesnāt have it in him to feel angry at Hotch for stepping in when he had it handled; doesnāt have the energy to act as though his pride is wounded, because really, neither of those things are true, and he doesnāt need to add another item to āSpencer Reidās List of Things He Pretends to Be.ā
The situation is forgotten, and time moves on.
Things change when he finds his first proper boyfriend. He doesnāt know what he was expecting, but it certainly wasnāt the giddying rush of emotions it turns out to be, and Spencer spends his days smiling as he daydreams his time away.
His name is Oscar Wilkins, a History professor at Georgetown University, and Spencer falls quickly in love with him. Ever since their mutual friend had introduced them at a gay bar one evening, theyād spent all their free time together. Heās kind and gentle and understanding of Spencerās hectic and unpredictable job, and he finally has the chance to experience everything he quietly and shamefully longed for as a teenager.
The only downside is the silent breaking of Spencerās heart that the most important people in his life canāt meet his boyfriend. He longs to show Oscar off, to hold hands in front of his team, lean up to press a tender kiss to Oscarās lips. He wants to put a framed picture of the two of them at the Washington Monument on his desk to remind him of why he needs to get through the hard days; he doesnāt want to have to sneak out of the hotel room he shares with Derek to whisper hushed, loving goodnights over the phone.
But heās too scared. Too cowardly.
Itās different being who he is with his gay group of friends littered with wlws and drag queens and other gay and bisexual guys. They understand.
But Derek and Hotch are two extremely masculine, alpha men: Derekās a ladiesā man and Hotch is married to a woman he met in college with a baby on the way and both have a strong and dominant energy that still sometimes manages to intimidate Spencer even after all these years. And Elle and JJ are lovely ā some of his closest friends, really ā but sometimes they remind him a little too much of the mean girls he went to high school with.
The hardest person to keep his secret from, though, is Penelope. Sheās his best friend and he desperately wants to give her all of him, but heās so scared. Heās lost a best friend to this secret before, and even though heās certain sheād be fine with it, what if she accidentally let it slip to Derek? What if Hotch found out and didnāt see him in the same light anymore? What if the girls started teasing him? What if Gideon didnāt want to mentor him anymore?
The fear paralyses him. And itās a cycle he doesnāt know how to break.
Fear, though, doesn't stop everyone from noticing his daydreaming, his dopey smile when he checks his messages, his urgency to get home where he wouldāve stayed until the small hours of the morning before. As excellent as he is at hiding his sexuality, heās fucking terrible at hiding the fact that heās in love: it was easy enough to pretend he was straight, but hiding something this all-consuming is an impossible ask.
Derek comes over to perch on the edge of his desk one afternoon, sighing as he sits down. āPretty boy, this is getting ridiculous,ā he says, snatching Spencerās attention away from his phone. āYouāve been grinning like an idiot for the last twenty minutes as youāve texted Future Mrs Reid. When are we going to meet her?ā
(He hates the new nickname the team has given his mystery significant other, although Oscar had found it hilarious. āItās funny because when we get married, weāll hardly be able to tell,ā heād argued through his laughter. āNeither of us will change our name because of our academic profiles, and weāll both still be āDrā. Our wedding rings will be the only indicator.ā
Spencer hadnāt argued back, because heād been too tongue-tied and flushed pink at Oscarās use of āwhenā in regards to their hypothetical nuptials. It was only made bearable by Oscar kissing him gently and tucking him under his arm, not embarrassing him any further as Spencer had sort of anticipated, warmth settling over his chest at the thought of their future together.)
āYou wonāt,ā he replies, perhaps a little too curtly.
Derek starts at that, clearly not expecting it. He definitely shouldāve tried to play it off as a joke. āWhatā should I be offended, pretty boy?ā
You wouldnāt call me that if you knew who I really am.
āThatās up to you, Derek,ā he says calmly, although he still canāt meet his eyes, ābut you wonāt meet the āFuture Mrs Reid, so I think it would probably be best if you left it alone.ā
āDamn,ā Derek mutters under his breath, clearly pissed off and probably more hurt than Spencer ever intended. āSuit yourself.ā
And with that, he gets up and leaves his desk. Spencerās only solace is the text message he sees on his phone when he picks it back up: I love you so much. You know that, right?
The light-hearted ridicule comes to an abrupt halt after the incident with Derek, and itās clear that he had been the biggest contributor to the teasing. Heās thankful that the jokes have stopped, but he wishes desperately that it didnāt come with the growing distance between him and his team. Loneliness takes the place of his previous irritated anxiety, and he isnāt sure whatās worse.
It all comes to a head at the end of a case in Michigan. Theyāre stuck in the lounge of the small inn theyād stayed in the last few days, a snowstorm having blocked them in and grounded the jet, although Gideon had long since retreated to his room. The fireās going and theyāre the only guests around, so itās cosy enough, but Spencer canāt help but feel sick at the idea of another night away from home.
Itās only been two weeks since heād snapped at Derek, but the chasm between him and the team is only widening with each passing day. He knows itās not a case of āpick a sideā, but the teamās morale relies on light-hearted banter and teasing, and him not being a part of that anymore has only brewed awkwardness. Everyoneās trying to give him space when space is the last thing he wants.
Oscarās keeping him company over the phone at least, but itās not quite enough to quell the loneliness swimming around his stomach, and the 'discrete' sideways looks he gets from the team only make him feel worse.
āAt least itās nice and toasty in here,ā JJ sighs as she takes a sip of the hot chocolate the kindly inn owner had made for them all.
Elle hums in agreement. āThere are worse places to be grounded.ā
āI dunno, man, I just wanna get home,ā Derek says, not taking his eyes off the fire. Spencer canāt help but agree.
āOh, come on,ā Hotch muses, considerably more jovial now the case is over, āweāre here, and thatās not going to change any time soon. We should make the most of it.ā
āItās at least nice to be somewhere sort-of Christmassy now itās December,ā Elle points out. āWe could be stuck in a dingy police station like we probably will be next week.ā
āOoh, I noticed that Jemimah and Kiran started planning the Christmas party last week,ā JJ says, smiling at them. āI offered my help, but they seem to have it covered.ā
Hotch raises an eyebrowāThatās probably a good thing. You donāt need more work on your plate.ā
āNot gonna argue with that,ā she murmurs, smiling as she brings her mug to her lips again.
Spencer doesnāt miss that Derek is still stewing on the opposite side of the room.
āAre you looking forward to the Christmas party, Spencer? Will you come?ā Hotch asks, clearly trying to rope him into the conversation, which he appreciates. Heās been making a lot of effort with him the past few weeks, and itās just about the only thing thatās getting him through each day.
Before he can reply, though, Derek erupts from the other side of the room; an already pissed-off man being pushed over the edge. āHe wonāt even let us meet his fucking girlfriend, Hotch, heās not gonna want to come to the Christmas party!ā he yells, throwing his hands in the air as he glares at Spencer with a stormy expression raging across his face.
Suddenly, Spencer canāt stay silent anymore, and his retort shocks himself just as much as it does everyone else. āI donāt have a girlfriend!ā
It might be the loudest heās ever shouted in his whole life. Heās always been quiet and restrained, the type to state his feelings as calmly as possible no matter how heās feeling on the inside. Even in the biggest fight heās had with Oscar, his voice was barely loud enough to qualify as a shout.
Thereās a brief stunned silence, but Derek quickly slices his way through it, voice raising to meet Spencerās fiery emotion, fierce and loud. āOh, donāt even go there, Reid, youāre really gonna try and argue that? Youāre gonna lie about her as well as not let us meet her? What a boyfriend you are.ā
āI donāt! I donāt have a girlfriend!ā he repeats, voice catching this time as tears rise unbidden to the backs of his eyes and all the emotions of the journey heās taken with his sexuality over the years flood him in a wave of intensity heās not prepared for.
āYouāre fucking lyingā!ā
āI have a boyfriend!ā he yells. āAlright? I have a boyfriend. Iām gay.ā
The anger and emotion quickly dissipates, and heās left standing alone in front of the team heās put so much effort into hiding this from, watching shock spell out across everyoneās expressions. Heās never felt smaller than he does in that moment, and he quickly grabs his phone before running upstairs to his room, locking the door behind him.
āOh God, Oscar, I fucked up so bad,ā he cries over the phone as soon as his boyfriend picks up.
āHey, hey, breathe, baby,ā Oscar says gently, but Spencer can hear the anxious concern in his voice, āitās gonna be okay, I promise. Iām here. Do you want to tell me what happened?ā
āI justā Oh God, I just told the team.ā A new wave of horror rolls over him as he realises what heās done. Times might be changing, but itās still only 2006, and he doesnāt know each and every nuance of his team membersā political positions and, fuck, he hates that his existence is a fucking political position.
Oscarās been so understanding of his reluctance to not tell the team, even though Spencerās met pretty much everyone in his life. He isnāt sure what heās done to earn such a gracious and understanding boyfriend, but heās not about to question it.
āBaby, I know itās scary, and I know youāre really worked up right now,ā he counsels, voice soft and reassuring, using the nickname he knows Spencer loves the most to make him feel as safe as he can from 700 miles away, ābut itās probably not as bad as you think. From what youāve told me about the team, they love you so much, and even in the case that in the past they've had some issue with gay people, I can't imagine theyād ever actually think of you any differently when it comes down to it, Spencer.ā
Heās crying too hard to reply, and Oscar understands immediately, gently transitioning into a story about his day that slowly starts to calm him down, and by the time heās wrapping it up, his tears are starting to subside.
āThank you, Ozzy,ā he whispers into the phone, lifting himself up off the floor and making his way to sit on the bed instead.
āYou know Iād do anything for you, sweetheart,ā he murmurs warmly. āDo you want me to stay on the phone for a bit?ā
āYes please,ā he whispers again, holding it as close to himself as possible, drawing all the comfort he can from his boyfriendās voice.
He lies there listening to Oscarās voice and trying not to think about the disaster downstairs for a good ten minutes before thereās a tap at the door.
āOz, thereās someone here,ā he says, voice panicked.
āI think you should probably speak to them, baby,ā he urges. āIāll stay on the phone with you while you do, if you like?ā
āPlease.ā He gets up from the bed gingerly, keeping his phone tightly gripped in his right hand as he slowly unlocks the door with his left, revealing Hotch on the other side.
āHey, Spencer. Do you mind if I come in?ā
Heās riddled with nerves, but Hotch is smiling warmly, and heās never said a harsh word to Spencer, so he steps aside and lets him into his room.
Hotch quickly notices the phone in his hand, visibly still on a call. āIs that your boyfriend?ā
Spencer nods.
āDo you mind if I talk to him?ā
His brows knit in confusion and his lips part slightly in surprise, but itās all he can do to hand the phone over, watching Hotch carefully.
āHi, Spencer tells me this is his boyfriend?ā Hotch inquires politely into the phone, his tone still warm. āIām Hotch, Spencerās boss.ā
He can vaguely hear Oscar speaking on the other end of the line, and he worries slightly that Oscar will somehow give away the familial feelings he holds for Hotch, but the conversation doesnāt last long enough for the anxiety to really take over.
āEverythingās fine here, I just want to have a conversation with Spencer, so is it alright if we hang up and I talk to him alone for a minute? He can call you straight back afterwards.ā After a brief pause in which Oscar says something, Hotch looks back up at him. āAre you okay with that, Spencer?ā
He nods hesitantly, and Hotch says a quick goodbye to Oscar before surging forwards and wrapping Spencer in a hug. It catches him off guard, but he doesnāt waste any time in burying his face into Hotchās neck and soaking in the comfort and warmth that always radiates from his father figure.
āCome on,ā Hotch says softly as they pull away a good minute or so later, āletās sit down, shall we?ā
āYouāre not mad?ā Spencer canāt help but ask, the question burning his tongue as anxiety ā however quietened from Hotchās hug ā still swims around in his stomach.
āThere are many things that could make me mad, Spencer,ā he says earnestly, ābut this is not one of them. I would never be angry at you for being who you are, okay? I mightā¦ I might be overstepping here, and if I am, then tell me and Iāll back off, but Iāve always seen you as a mentee, and over the years thatās developedā well, I see you more as a son these days. And part of that is wanting to protect and support you no matter what you do or say or who you are.ā
Spencer wastes no time in diving back in for a hug, clinging onto Hotch for dear life as he hugs back, rubbing his back gently.
āIām so sorry you didnāt feel like you could tell us sooner, Spencer,ā he says in a voice soft with affection and regret. āBut Iām so glad youāve told us now.ā
He only presses closer at that, tears springing back to his eyes. āI didnāt want to lose you.ā He knows what heās implying, and even in a roundabout way, heās glad heās telling Hotch.
āOh, Spence,ā he sighs sadly, āyou couldnāt do a single thing to lose me. Iām in it for the long haul.ā
āReally?ā he asks, hating how insecure he sounds.
āReally,ā Hotch promises, pulling away as Spencer does. āNow, you have a whole team of agents downstairs who are feeling very sorry for themselves and really want to see you.ā
Nausea rolls in his stomach and panic springs back up as he looks at Hotch, desperate for some sort of grounding. āAre they angry at me? Do they hate me now?ā
āNo one hates you, Spencer,ā he says firmly. āI promise you that. Everyone just wishes that theyād made you feel more welcome and comfortable. We all hate that you felt you had to lock up something so integral to who you are, and we canāt help but feel we played a part in it.ā
āNo,ā he protests ā the last thing he wants is family blaming themselves when it has nothing to do with them, āitās not your fault, itās justā¦ā
Hotch nods. āI understand, itās okay. Now, do you want to go down and see them? You donāt have to if you donāt want to, but it might help ease your mind to see that they really donāt hate you.ā
Spencer pauses, taking a moment to think. āCan I see Derek first?ā
āOf course,ā Hotch says understandingly, and the comforting smile that crosses his face makes Spencer feel safe and taken care of. āIāll send him up?ā
Spencer nods and Hotch hugs him once more before leaving the room almost reluctantly. He wastes no time in picking up his phone and sending a text to Oscar. You were right. Hotch is fine. Heās just sending Derek up before I go and see the team but he says that no oneās angry and I think I believe him. Thank you, Oscar. I love you.
Not even half a minute goes past before his phone lights up with a text back. Iām so glad, baby. Call me later, okay? I want to make sure youāre okay before I go to bed. I love you more.
Before Spencer can argue that actually, he is the one more in love with the other, a hesitant knock sounds on his door. Nerves suddenly flip his stomach, and he clenches and unclenches his fists a couple of times before forcing himself to cross the room, revealing a very worried and regretful-looking Derek.
āOh, pretty boy,ā he says sadly, before crushing Spencer in a warm and tender hug. Immediately, he relaxes into the arms of one of his best friends, and relief courses through his blood at Derekās reaction. āI am so sorry that I ever made you feel like you couldnāt tell me that you were gay or had a boyfriend. Thatās completely on me. I donāt care who you love, Spencer, I just want you to be happy, okay? And if this guy makes you happy, then thatās fine by me. But if he ever lays a hand on you orāā
āDerek, Derek,ā he laughs, āitās fine I get it. Thank you, though, Iāmā¦ Iām sorry I couldnāt tell you earlier and for snapping at you in the bullpen that timeā¦ā
āI understand, Spence,ā he promises. āItās in the past, okay? And Iām sorry for pushing so hard. I mean, Iād love to meet him but if you donāt feel comfortable or you donāt want to, thatās fine, too. Itās your life, man.ā
āNo, Iā¦ I think I want you guys to meet him. Itās been so hard to keep him away from the people I consider my family, you know?ā
āYeah, I know. Maybe after Christmas, we can all have dinner or something.ā
Spencer smiles shyly. āWell, Oscarās a great cook, so I reckon we could work something out.ā
Derek grins, throwing an arm around his shoulders as he immediately jumps back into teasing him as they make their way to the door to go downstairs and see the rest of the team. āOoh, lover boyās got him a chef, hey? What else does this Oscar have going for him?ā
Spencer chatters eagerly about his boyfriend to Derek, barely skipping a beat when he joins everyone downstairs, his friends taking his cues and joining in with the conversation seamlessly. Heās had enough fuss for one night, and the warmth and understanding on everyoneās faces tells him everything he needs to know.
āDo you have any pictures of him?ā JJ asks, raising an eyebrow with eager expectancy as they all settle back into their seats by the fire, a warm and unbelievably happy feeling settling in Spencerās stomach.
He blushes, digging out his phone from his pocket and unlocking it. āMore than a few, I think.ā
He finds the most recent picture of his boyfriend ā a candid shot of him cooking in the kitchen, spatula aloft, and a huge grin on his face ā and hands the phone around.
āOh wow, you like them buff, huh, pretty boy?ā Derek teases as soon as he gets his hands on it, and Spencerās stomach twists in a sudden bout of fear, expecting to see some hesitancy or even disgust on his friendās face. What if he thinks that Spencer has a crush on him? What if heās uncomfortable around him now?
But if Derekās having any of those thoughts, they donāt show on his face. Heās smiling widely and openly, all the pent-up anxiety and frustration borne from hurt gone from his body language, and he looks completely comfortable sat next to Spencer, his arm stretched out behind him on the back of the sofa.
They sit happily around the fire for a couple of hours, settling into a happy, intimate familiarity Spencer hadnāt realised was missing when he was hiding something so integral to his being from his family, and heās still smiling when they finally part ways to head to bed, the clock ticking closer and closer to 1 am.
He gets ready for bed quickly, brushing his teeth and throwing on the top heād stolen from Oscar the first time heād stayed at his place; a welcome change from his worn and wrinkled suit. As soon as his teeth are brushed and the lights are all off except for his bedside lamp, he pulls out his phone, knowing thereās one more thing he has to do before he goes to sleep.
āSpencer?ā Penelopeās voice sounds down the line, clearly concerned. āItās almost 2 am here, are you okay?ā
āIām gay,ā he says, getting straight to the point. The main reason he ever kept it from her was because of his fear of it accidentally getting out to the team rather than fear over her reaction. After all, multiple of his drag queen friends are also hers.
āOh my God,ā she says in that small voice she uses when sheās not actually talking to you, before finally actually replying to me. āSpencer, Iām so happy you told me!ā
He doesnāt miss her choice of words, or the way she says them and he tilts his head suspiciously. āYou already knew, didnāt you?ā
She sighs. āYeah. Iām sorry, a couple of months ago I saw a text from Oscar on your phone when you went to the bathroom during one of our Doctor Who marathons, and it wasnāt hard to figure out the relationship.ā
āAndā¦ wait, youāre not mad at me for not telling you sooner?ā
āSpencer! Of course not. I was waiting for you to be comfortable enough to share it with me. I felt awful that I knew without your consent but I didnāt want to tell you because I didnāt want to catch you off guard or make you feel uncomfortable. Itās fine that you waited, baby genius, Iām just so happy you told me now. What finally gave you the courage?ā
āWell, it might have slipped out in front of the team this evening,ā he admits sheepishly, āand the only reason I never told you was because I was scared that it would slip out somehow ā accidentally, of course, I didnāt think youād tell anyone on purpose ā and now everyone knows. Itās been killing me not to tell you, Penelope, it really has because I love you so much and youāre my best friend and I trust you with my life, itās justā¦ā
āWhoa, slow down, Spence,ā she laughs fondly, āyou donāt have to explain yourself to me, I understand. But Iām glad you finally told everyone and you can be yourself completely with us, now. We all love you no matter what, you know that right?ā
āI do now.ā
āGood. You should get some sleep, baby boy, itās late and youāve had an emotional evening.ā
Spencer smiles. āYeah, I know. You should, too, Pen. Iāll see you when we can finally make it home, okay? Love you.ā
āLove you, too, 187,ā she says softly, and Spencer can hear the smile in her voice. āGoodnight.ā
As soon as he hangs up, he settles down into the bed, turning off the light and pulling the duvet up over his shoulders before dialling one more number.
āHey, baby,ā Oscar says, voice as gentle and caring as it always is, although thicker with tiredness now. āI take it everything went okay?ā
āYeah,ā Spencer murmurs, already feeling tired as the safety he always feels at the sound of Oscarās voice settles into the fibres of his being. āIt went so well. I canāt wait for you to meet everyone.ā
āI canāt wait either, sweetheart. Are you in bed now?ā
āYeah,ā he sighs. āCan you talk to me as I fall asleep?ā
āAnything for you, Spence,ā he says softly, before transitioning seamlessly into a story about the professors on campus, and his gentle comfort and the knowledge of the unconditional love his family has for him finally lulls Spencer into the best sleep heās had in weeks.
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BDSM and kink DO belong in Pride celebrations. This is why.
I've read a column on The Independent trying to explain why BDSM and Kink don't belong in Pride celebrations. What I found interesting is not only the lack of knowledge from the author, but the way he can contradict himself in the same article. I'll try to explain why based on my personal experience as a Leatherman.
Before anything I'd like to perfectly make myself clear: in the US (country where I live) showing your genitals or anus in public is illegal.
In the column, the autor tries to explain that BDSM and Kink aren't of good taste or decent enough for the public. And that could potentially alienate possible allies we could need in the LGBTQ movement. A lot of this type of arguments against the same LGBTQ community have been heard thorough our contemporary history, and most of the times have been used to attack and suppress us.
But contrary to what most of the readers think is the main error in the column, which is the wrongful denial of the presence of the BDSM and Kink collective based on their clothing or what they're doing in public, I think the main error lies deeper within the column.
The author tries to make a separation between sexual orientation and sexual preference. He states that where sexual orientation is of a permanent state, a sexual preference is a choice that can change. The author couldn't be any more wrong with this argument: BDSM and Kink people have both perfectly attached one to the other.
In my personal case as a Leatherman who has met diverse type of Leathermen around the globe, most of them coincide with what I think: a gay Leatherman can only be attracted to other gay Leathermen. That is the main characteristic of a fetish tied to a sexual preference. I cannot have sexual intercourse with a woman dressed in leather, or with a man dressed in casual clothing. My sexual orientation and preference are intimately tied one to each other.
The author makes a reference to his lack of knowledge from the subject when he tries to dismiss Leathermen, and most likely all Kinksters (rubbermen, pups, Levi, balloons, diapers, etc) and practicioners of BDSM to a simple case of a "preference", or a choice. He considers that at a certain point in my life I was given the option of liking Leathermen, a thing that never happened. There was a time when I was growing up (probably around when I was 6 or 7 years old) when I discovered that I like men dressed in leather. Before knowing that I was gay, or what being gay is, I was already a kinkster and I already had a defined sexual preference. If the author of the column had a minimum knowledge of the topic, he would have known that most fetish people are born with their fetishes in their blood: we cannot choose whether to accept or dismiss our fetishes, we have to practice them in order to be in peace with ourselves, to be our own true selves. In all my life I've met several diverse Leathermen and fetish people that cannot have a sexual hookup or a meaningful relationship with a person who does not share their sexual preference, or their fetish. That has happened to me. I've tried several times without success to have sex with a person who does not share my fetish. Having a shared fetish or kink is a basic requirement for me to have a good time with a man.
From that wrong argument on, the whole column loses its value. Thanks to his wrongful reasoning, the author falls into the same rhetoric that conservatives from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, 2010's and 2020's have long used to attack us: the BDSM and Kink collective (or replacing those with the LGBTQ acronym), which is nothing more than a bunch of people that CHOSE to get dressed in leather that day (or a bunch of people that CHOSE to love a person from the same sex) is not of good taste to mingle in a Pride celebration, or with the rest of the society in general. Other proof of his ignorance of the Kink and BDSM world can be seen in the same column: when the author mentions that he's practiced a fetish but no longer does. That implies that for him the fetish is nothing more than a costume he uses to make sex "more fun" and when he's over, he hangs it back in the closet and forgets about it until he needs it again. Unlike the author, I wear leather because that is who I am: a Leatherman. I consider that I use a costume when I go to work using casual clothes in a job that doesn't allow to wear leather garments.
Now I'd like to ask the author the specific type of Pride he's been going where showing genitals or anuses is allowed. Never in my lifetime as Leatherman I've been to a pride where people shows those. Any gay person (at least in the US) independently of whether if they participate in a collective or not, knows that showing the genitals or anuses in public is illegal. No matter how proud of being a Leatherman I am, I'd never do it, nor I ever will. I know the places where I can do that. Now, if his comments regarding the so called "sexual intercourses" he witness, or imagines, when assisting to a Pride event stems from the way we dress or act there, then I have the next words for him: stop reflecting your insecurities on us. I dress the way I do and act the way I do because that is what I want, that is who I am. If you have a problem with it, then that problem is yours and yours only to solve. I don't have to change my persona, nor I ever will, to accommodate to your insecurities.
Instead of attacking me, or the BDSM / Kink collective, the author should try to know me/us. He would get shocked to know that despite my preferences, I am a human being just like him: I have a job just like him, I go back home just like him, I go to bed just like him, and if someone attacks me I bleed, just like him. Maybe if he devoted more time to know us, or the different facets of the LGBTQ movement, he would spend less time attacking us. The attack to one of us does not minimize it's impact: an attack to one of us is an attack to all of us.
I also have some words for The Independent: shame on you for trying to legitimize voices of people that have no idea or knowledge of a topic you agree to publish. Rather than demonstrating the lack of knowledge and ignorance from the author, you're showing the null capacity from your editorial board to choose quality writers for your publication.
Lastly, I'd like to tell to my beloved LGBTqia+ / BDSM / Kink community: this month celebrate the freedom of being however you really are. We have a long history of fighting against what society tells us how we should be. Now is not the time to give up, nor to take a small break. And the best way to celebrate is this: if you're a Femdom, be a proud Femdom in the bank. If you're a Leatherman, be a proud Leatherman in the bus. If you're Queer, be a proud Queer in an art gallery. Gather together with your kinky friends, or just your friends and mingle with the rest of the society in your best gear. Let's build bridges of communication between our BDSM / kink world and the people that don't know us. Because what's better than a day, a week, a month or even a year of celebrations, is a lifetime of Pride.
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Next up are Hamburg and Fry! What do they want, and how will the power of their Stones help them get it?
Theyāre an unusually heroic spin on the āBumbling Henchmen Duoā trope. Dr. Eggman from the Sonic franchise, Cruella De Vil fromĀ 101 Dalmatians, The Hacker from Cyberchase, and many more have a skinny henchman and a stocky henchman, though the diner guys break the mold a bit because Hamburg is taller than Fry.
Neither of them are particularly bright: both fell for Joās fake phone call inĀ āRings of Powerā despite being in the same room with her.
And they didnāt properly protect themselves from theĀ āearthquakeā inĀ āNiƱa Giganticaā.
Theyāre also eager to follow orders, as seen inĀ āBig Winā when they interpreted JoāsĀ āListen!ā asĀ āIām about to give you instructionsā.
Hamburg has a strict No Bullshit Policy; his response to Kid being noisy and destructive in āRings of Powerā was to wield a rolling pin menacingly and lift Kid up by his ankle one-handed.
And when Carl claimed to have already known about Kid and co. having powers in āBig Winā, Hamburg bluntly called him a liar.
Hamburgās name and accent suggest heās from Germany. Of all the places to move to, why a dinky little side-of-the-road town an ocean away? And why did he move there alone?Ā As is common among comic book heroes, Hamburg has terrible parents. He moved somewhere distant and and inconspicuous to escape them, and isnāt willing to put up with bullshit from anyone else after all those bad experiences.
He would have severed a lot of bonds when he did so, and his seriousness and hint of a bad temper probably mean itās hard for him to make new ones. Hamburg wants what he never got at home:Ā positive connections.
Flo asks him if he has super strength inĀ āBig Winā and he replies withĀ āYes, but itās from working out and eating healthyā. Since Hamburg already has mundaneĀ āsuper strengthā and Rosaās Stone gives her cosmicĀ āsuper strengthā, Hamburgās Stone will give him strength in a metaphorical, social sense. Heāll haveĀ āstrength in numbersā, but in a different way than Papa G does.
Hamburgās Stone will give him the power of Zoopathy (the ability to communicate with animals), and it will be Indigo to reflect the blue/black pattern of his pants and shoes. This man deserves to be a D*sney Princess! Heāll ask his animal friends to act as spies, distractions, allies in combat, emotional support, etc. And if Tuna Sandwichās translator ever gets lost or breaks, Hamburg will be able translate for him until it's found or fixed. But relying too much on the Stone to give him animal companionship means Hamburg wonāt make progress in terms of human companionship. Thereās a limit to how much you can work through your issues without the help of other people. His character development will have him learn that sometimes people can be good, and it can be good to trust and bond with them.
Fry seems to be a bit of a wibbly-wobbly nothinā-in-particular kind of guy. He mumbles when he speaks, even while on the job.
Heās oblivious; unlike Hamburg, he couldnāt connect the townāsĀ āearthquakesā to Rosaās stomping around. Heās also pretty gullible, since he believed Carlās lie about knowing Kid and co. had powers... or maybe he just chose not to challenge the lie to avoid conflict.
Being able toĀ āturn to gooā like Flo suggested wouldĀ be fitting, since goo is by nature a wibbly-wobbly nothinā-in-particular thing. But like her questioning of Carl and Hamburg, it's a hint, not 100% accurate. Since his two full tattoo sleeves indicate a high pain tolerance and a willingness to alter his body,Ā Fryās Stone will give him the power of Shapeshifting, and it will be Gray like his tattoos. What better power for aĀ nothinā-in-particular kind of guy than to be everything?Ā The Local Heroes will no doubt meet a huge menagerie of people and animals on their adventures that he can draw inspiration from. Sharp claws, venom, camouflage, gills, the ability to impersonate a relevant evil alien minion- there are all sorts of uses for such a power!
Itās especially useful in a metaphorical sense, because shapeshifting is about hiding who you are, and what happens when you canāt do it anymore. As we all know, The Audience Craves Violence Catharsis, so we generally expect the character in question to go apeshit once the lid pops off of their repressed anger or trauma or hungers of various kinds. But trope subversion is part and parcel of Kid Cosmicās appeal, so I think Fry is hiding something else.
Fry is queer and/or neurodivergent, though Vibes are my only evidence right now. Shapeshifting will go a long way towards helping him Blend In And Be Normal wherever he goes, but it canāt truly change him. Rather than an accidental outing or a breakdown and tearful confession, Fry will come out of the closet after he graduallyĀ grows smore confident at being himself and trusting that his allies wonāt think less of him because of it.
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(Carl) (Carlos and Ramona) (Carla)
(Hamburg and Fry: You Are Here) (Flo) (Chuck)
#kid cosmic#kid cosmic theory#kid cosmic hamburg#kid cosmic fry#imnotprojectingyoureprojectingshutup#flo and chuck's parts will take a bit longer because they have more screentime for me to analyze
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How do you think things would change for edward and carlisle if carlisle had never changed esme? do you think carlisle ever would have changed anyone else? would edward have still left for his "rebellion"? would it have changed the roles that they play?
They eventually become that friendly but reclusive gay couple in your neighborhood that you donāt know very much about but who seem very happy.Ā
Hereās why. (This got long. I have thoughts.)
Carlisle and Edward are two of the most heavily queer-coded characters in the entire saga. I respect a good Jasper/Edward or Jacob/Edward, but I donāt see those coming from the way the characters talk about each other in canon. Those are slash ships which exist because people want to see that ship. Theyāre fun, but itās never felt as āoh yeah of course, these twoā like C & Ed.
They already have what seems to be a very intimate relationship in canon. It isnāt his brothers Edward turns to first to ask about having sex; itās Carlisle, who is ostensibly in the role of his father. Edwardās brain in Midnight Sun is about 50% Bella, 50% Carlisle, 50% the sky is falling. (I realize thatās more than 100% which seems about on par for Edwardās brain.)Ā
He uses Carlisleās face to recenter himself when he encounters Bella in MS. He talks about how Carlisle had so many complicated emotions toward him, and then says that for himself,Ā āLove [for Carlisle] came easily.āĀ
Meanwhile, Edward is pretty oblivious to Bella as a woman beyond her scent, aside from wishing sheād wear the green sweater more to keep him from feeling too horny. He has never been interested in Tanya, even though sheās repeatedly been interested in him. He notices that Siobhan is curvy, but doesnāt apply this same gaze to Bella.Ā
Carlisle, for his part, is somehow totally unaware that Esme, who probably made very clear she thought he was crushworthy in 1911, has somehow also fallen for him. Edward has toĀ ābe on hand to caution Carlisleā that sheās going to be in love with him after her change. And while I donāt personally hold the headcanon that Aro and Carlisle were ever sexually involved (though I enjoy that ship), it certainly seems likely that Carlisle had a certain amount of intimacy with him based on the way Aro greets Edward and then Carlisle in the saga.Ā
And then thereās the simple fact that where Carlisle has watched other vampires turn mates, or turn allies, he picks this seventeen-year-old boy without having any sense that he might be gifted. He just think heās beautiful and kind and full of youth. Ohhhhh kaaaay... They are both heavily, heavily implied to be at least bi, if not gay. Men are on the table for them both. Mind you, I donāt think SM meant to put that on the page. But thatās whatās there.Ā
So Carlisle changes Edward. He, for whatever reason, doesnāt change Esme. Maybe he leaves her in the morgue. Maybe they never go to Ashland. Heās having the time of his life finally being knownĀ by someone, and not only known, but known in this deeply invasive, intimate way. They become as close as they are in canon.Ā
Edward, in my reading, rebelled in part because he was supplanted by Esme. He was heartbroken. Maybe he didnāt realize he was in love with Carlisle, because in that time period, and with their backgrounds, that wouldāve been impossible to admit to himself. But he reacted like a teenager who suddenly has to share his parent with whom heās very close. No Esme, no sharing, no rebellion.Ā
This probably then means they donāt ever end up in Rochester--maybe they stay in Ashland longer, who knows. Realistically, as soon as you start to remove a piece of the story, the dominoes fall very differently, although itās hard to say because it never seems like SM had a clear idea of why any given character did a given a thing, just that they did. The only time we ever even get a whiff of something like this is that Maria came to visit when they were in Calgary and they had to move right after she did.Ā So we donāt know why they moved to Rochester, which makes it hard to say if they still do in this AU.
Letās say they do end up in Rochester, and theyāre still doing the friend/father/son/hell no weāre not gay thing. Carlisle finds a woman in the street who has been brutally gangraped and left for dead.
He does not have a wife whose own history of sexual assault he is thinking of.
He does not have a son whose unhappiness he is trying to assuage.Ā
Edward has never rebelled; Carlisle doesnāt need to do something to keep him around. He has no model of a female companion healing his own heart, so he has no reason to feel even a twinge that such a thing might be true for Edward.
So he spirits Rosalie to the hospital and does his level best to treat her. She dies despite his efforts. Itās very sad; another instance where Carlisle feels inadequate against the world. He turns to Edward for comfort, just like always, and gets over it within a few days. Edward and Carlisle go on living their lives together.Ā They are deeply affectionate, deeply concerned with one another, and very, very close.
One day, theyāre having a conversation about something, or nothing, doesnāt matter, and noses get too close, and bam. Suddenly theyāre both thinking, My god, Iām kissing my best friend and this feels so much better than I ever would have imagined.Ā
And thatās it. Itās not easy; they have a lot of self-loathing to get over and their relationship is rocky for years. Sex is fraught with feelings of shame and sinfulness, mostly on Carlisle's part. But slowly they do come to accept themselves and each other. The remaining decades are filled with them trying to slot themselves into society. Being vampires already means they have to hide a lot; compared to that, hiding homosexuality is downright simple. Stonewall happens; they watch the fallout at a distance, afraid to become too involved for fear of outing a lot more than their sexuality (or at least they convince themselves thatās the reason; a lot of it is also internalized homophobia). Edward probably develops the self-control to practice medicine also, or otherwise finds something to occupy himself while Carlisle is working. He doesnāt present himself as a high school student because the last thing they need is Carlisle being accused of statutory rape on top of sodomy, so heās billed as Carlisleās equal.Ā
By 2021, theyāre experiencing a very pleasant whiplash about how different their lives have become in the last 30 years. They get married in an Episcopal church in the 2010s. Edward still isnāt very religious, but it is very meaningful to Carlisle. Theyāre out at work. They donāt march in pride parades, but they do allow themselves to be seen being a little affectionate in public places. It feels good. But theyāre still vampires, and they still have a lot to hide. So they keep to themselves and keep their heads down.Ā
And every now and then, their neighbors get a glimpse of these two beautiful young men walking arm in arm at twilight.Ā And the neighborsā concerned thought as they watch them isnāt "I wonder if they're vampires" or "I wonder if they're gay" but "I wonder why they don't own a dog."
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REC: Trans Lead Characters In Japanese Movies/Series
Japan in the past has not been known for their media being particularlyĀ āwokeā or progressive, by any means, especially not when it comes to LGBTQIA+ representation. However, in the past few years, for some miraculous and marvellous reason, there have been a veritable parade of incredible lead LGBTQIA+ characters in some great seriesā and movies.
There has recently been a lot of attention given to the success of Ossanās Love and the steady flow of bl-manga adaptations that have followed. But in the midst of all this, nobody has given much attention to these other wonderful LGBTQIA+ stories which have been widely missed and ignored. But each one is beautiful in its own way, and I hope people will take some time to watch them *I have included links below.
Yes, one may critique the portrayal of these characters by cis male actors. NEVERTHELESS, upon watching these stories, I found them to be incredibly progressive and complex. Each of these shows deals with some pretty big issues around identity, prejudice, gender, sexuality, and wider concepts of acceptance, individuality etc. And each of them managed to do so in genuine, honest, touching, sensitive ways - evenĀ āWhere Have My Skirts Gone?ā, which seems like a comedy at first, came in swinging with its unapologetic politics. AndĀ āLife As A Girlāās lead Miki is a transgender lesbian, like Iām sorry has any other show ever!?!? and then had entire scenes EXPLAINING the correct terminology to a her himbo cis friend who spends the show learning how to be an ally, THANK YOU YES HELLO !?!??!?! Go watch it.
In order of release: 1. Close Knit / å½¼ććę¬ę°ć§ē·ØććØććÆĀ (2017)
This absolute gem of a film will give you ALL the found family feels and you will SOB happy tears. A neglected young girl, Tomo, goes to live with her uncle and his girlfriend Rinko, who is a trans-woman (played by my homeboy IKUTA TOMA, bitch donāt touch me he is so fucking perfect in this role).This film explores the prejudices towards LGBTQIA+ people through the perspective of this young girl and her relationship with her new mother figure, as well as the struggles of young queer kids, through both flashbacks to Rinkoās childhood, and the storyline of Tomoās friend. It also confronts the pressures and expectations of femininity and maternity, through both Rinko and Tomoās mother. Itās BEAUTIFUL. So beautiful.Ā You can watch it subbedĀ Ā >here<
2. Life As A Girl /Ā 儳åēēę“»Ā (2018)
I donāt know how many times Iāve rewatched this show now, I canāt believe itās only 4 episodes. It could have been 40 and I wouldnāt have complained. This wonderful mini-series revolves around Miki (Jun Shison, who is so underrated, when will he get the recognition he deserves!?) a young lesbian transgender woman who works in the fashion industry and is happily enjoying her metropolitan life, when an old school friend Goto (Machida Keita, who plays Kurasawa in Cherry Magic, and if you werenāt already in love with him you WILL BE BITCH), comes knocking on her door, looking for somewhere to crash cause heās broke. This šš¼Show šš¼. In four episodes, it tackles more issues than most do in entire seasons. I need to make a longer post about it cause Iāll rant here. Just, go watch it subbedĀ >here<.
3. Where Have My Skirts Gone? /Ā äæŗć®ć¹ć«ć¼ććć©ćč”ć£ć (2019).
I have to admit, I only watched this once last year and havenāt had a chance to rewatch yet - so forgive my foggy memory. This is more of a Mrs Doubtfire or AJ & The Queen type situation - the mystical, wise, punk-rock cross-dressing fairy-godmother figure comes to solve the problems of the teenagers. It doesnāt tackle trans issues directly, technically the lead,Ā Nobuo Harada (Arata Furuta), is a gay cross-dresser. But, the sentiment is still there, and it tackles heaps of diverse issues through the different lives of the kids. It started as a bit of a dark comedy, but I found it really touching in the end, and really appreciated itās message. Very wholesome, very camp, just enjoyable content really. Watch it subbed >here<.
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Now Furuba S2 is over, what now?
Iām already seeing a lot of people asking for recommendations now the S2 Sub is over; so this is a list of series that I think youāll enjoy if you like Furuba!Ā
All platforms listed are true for the UK, but might not be for other residences. More viewing options may be available in other territories.Ā
Unless specified, All Manga/Comic recs are available from regular bookstores and EBook Stores. If youāre in the UK Iāll suggest checking out Hive, which is an online store where a potion of each sale goes towards a Local Independent Bookstroe of your choice! They also have flat-rate free shipping!Ā
Okay, so the actual recs! (I got lazy in some places and used the official synopisis)Ā
Romance
Convenience Store BoyfriendsĀ Funimation (Dub) Crunchyroll (Sub) 12 Eps TotalĀ
āSix high school boys hang out at a local convenience store where they talk about their daily lives. Haruki Mishima and Towa Honda are first year students looking forward to the high school experience. Alongside them, thereās Nasa Sanagi, the only member of the cooking research club. Natsu Asumi is a loner but has third year students, Mikado Nakajima and Masamune Sakurakoji, looking out for him.ā
Kaguya-sama: Love is War S1 - Crunchyroll, Funimation (Sub) S2 Funimation (Sub/Dub) 24 eps - OngoingĀ Manga: 18/20 volumes available in EnglishĀ
āKnown for being both brilliant and powerful, Miyuki Shirogane and Kaguya Shinomiya lead the illustrious Shuchiin Academy as near equals. And everyone thinks theyād make a great couple. Pride and arrogance are in ample supply, so the only logical move is to trick the other into instigating a date! Who will come out on top in this psychological war where the first move is the only one that matters?ā
Monthly Girlsā Nozaki-kunĀ Netflix (Dub/Sub), Crunchyroll (Sub) 12 Eps Total Manga: 12/12 volumes available in EnglishĀ
āHigh school student Chiyo Sakura has a crush on schoolmate Umetarou Nozaki. When she confesses her love to him, he mistakes her for a fan and gives her an autograph. When she says she wants to be with him, he invites her to his house and has her help on some drawings. Sakura discovers that Nozaki is actually a renowned shÅjo manga artist working under the pen name Sakiko Yumeno. She agrees to be his assistant in order to get closer to him. As they work on his manga Let's Fall in Love they encounter other schoolmates, who assist them and serve as inspirations for the story.ā
Snow White With the Red Hair Funimation (Dub/Sub) 24 Eps Total Manga: 9/22+ volumes available in English. Anime ends Vol. 8Ā
āIn the kingdom of Tanbarun lives an independent young pharmacist named Shirayuki. Shirayuki is a plain girl, save for her shock of beautiful apple-red hair. Her stunning mane gets her noticed by the prince, but instead of romancing her, he demands she be his concubine. Shirayuki chops off her lovely locks, and runs away to the neighboring kingdom where she befriends a handsome stranger.ā
Tsuruedure Children Funimation (Dub), Crunchyroll (Sub) 12 Eps Total Manga (Ebook only) 12/12 Volumes available in English
āShort and charming comedic vignettes offer a quick glimpse into the unique and funny situations, misunderstandings, and all around confusion that can happen in a high school romance. For starters, thereās a story about a delinquent girl and the student council president, and one about a stoic boy confused about an emotional girl. Relive the charm of high school romance!ā
Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku Amazon Prime (Sub) 11 Eps Total Manga: 4/9 volumes available in englishĀ
Looking for a slice of life romance but youāre an actual adult now and donāt want to read about teenagers? Try Wotakoi! It combines office romance with childhood friends-to-lovers. Narumi is a Fujoshi who doesnāt want anyone to find out the truth of her ways, Hirotaka is a Game Otaku who doesnāt care what anyone says about it, together they go about the ins-and-outs of dating as an adult.Ā
Coming of Age
BOFURI: I donāt want to get hurt, so Iāll max out my defence Funimation (Dub/Sub)Ā 12 Eps OngoingĀ
āShe may be new to gaming, but Maple has found the secret to invincibility! Just put all your skill points into defense until you can't even move. That works, right? She doesn't want to experience any pain in the VRMMO game she started playing, and somehow it works better than anyone expected. Now she's got followers??ā
Brand New Animal Netflix (Dub/Sub) 12 Eps TotalĀ
āSet in a world where humanoid animals (known as beastmen) inhabit Earth, the series centers on Michiru Kagemori, a young teenage girl who one day suddenly starts turning into a tanuki beastman. Running away, she seeks refuge in Anima City, a city built for beastmen to be able to live peacefully as themselves, and ends up meeting a wolf beastman named Shirou Ogami. Together, they investigate how and why Michiru became a beastman, becoming mixed up in even stranger events in the process.ā
HyoukaĀ Funimation (Dub/Sub) 23 Eps TotalĀ
āA worthy addition to any animation fan's collection, Hyouka is a stunning masterwork that spins a charming tale of high school romance and mystery. After disenchanted student Hotaro Oreki joins his schoolās Classic Lit Club, he meets Eru Chitanda, a kindhearted and inquisitive girl with boundless curiosity and a knack for getting him caught up in all sorts of trouble.ā
Koto Oto Tomara! Sounds of Life Funimation (Dub/Sub) 24 Eps TotalĀ
āDown to its last member, the koto club will accept anyone who is interested in the traditional Japanese instrument. But when a delinquent and a prodigy player sign up, finding harmony isnāt going to be easyāespecially not with ensemble competitions looming around the corner. With enough time and some incredible skill at the strings, perhaps this motley crew can strike a chord with the judges.ā
O Maidens in your Savage Season HIDIVE (Dub/Sub)Ā 12 Eps TotalĀ Manga:Ā 7/8 volumes availableĀ in English (8th available for pre-order)Ā
The series follows a High School Literature club as they make their nervous first foray into the nature of sexuality. What is the difference between sexual attraction and romantic attraction? Does watching porn mean wanting to have sex? What are these strange feelings I am having down below? Why are boys so gross and girls so pretty? Each girl undergoes their own journey and finds their own destination, a brutally honest yet heart warming look at teenage female sexuality.Ā
CW: Sexual Assault, pedophilia (both portrayed as BAD AND TERRIBLE things)Ā
Our Dreams at Dusk Manga: 4/4 volumes available in EnglishĀ
IF YOU ONLY CONSUME ONE THING ON THIS LIST MAKE IT THIS!!!!! The series is the VERY DEFINITION ofĀ āIt Gets Betterā.Ā
After his classmates discover some gay pornography on his phone, Tasuku Kaname contemplates committing suicide. Just as heās about to jump, he spots a mysterious figure parkouring down a mountain. Shocked out of his moment, he decides to go and investigate whatās happening and finds an LGBT+ Drop In Centre. The series follows the lives of the people in the drop in centre, from Haruko who wishes to marry her closeted girlfriend, to Misora who is still trying to figure out what their gender is but has the threat of puberty hovering of their shoulder.Ā
Itās very clear that Kamatani-sensei has written this story FOR the Queer Community. Itās a truly beautiful story. Please give it your money if you can, so that Kamatani-sensei can actually earn some money, and so that Seven Seas know that there is a viable audience for these stories! So that we may get more content!
Reverse HaremĀ
Fruits Basket is NOT a reverse Harem, but i figure thereāll be some fan crossover.Ā
Kiss Him, Not Me Cruncyroll (sub) Funimation Dub available on DVD etc. 12 Eps Total Manga 14/14 volumes available in English
āKae Serinuma believes one thingāprinces belong together! As an avid boyās love fan, she loves nothing more than fantasizing about faux relationships between the boys at her school. But when she loses weight due to the stress of her favorite anime character dying suddenly the boys wantā¦her?! From pretty average to prettiest girl, Kae just wants these boys to date each other, not her!ā
Sub uses an irritatingĀ āSilly Fat Personā voice that the Dub doesnāt. CW for Sexual Assult, though it is depicted as a BAD thing and used for Kae to question why she is so into it when reading BL, when IRL it is terrifying?Ā
My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom Crunchyroll (Dub/Sub) 12 Eps TotalĀ
A TRULY Bisexual harem! After bumping her head, young Katarina Claes awakens with all the memories of her past life... and promptly realises sheās been re-incarnated as the antagonist of her favourite Otome Game! Determined this time to live past the age of 17, Katarina starts to make plans to turn all her enemies into allies through the power of kindness and understanding! Throughout the series, she tries harder and harder to avoid her doom flags... without realising that sheās turned those doom flags into romance flags!Ā
Katarina lives out the fantasy of going to magic school and eating cake as all the pretty people fall head over heels for her. A pity sheās too dim to notice.
Ouran High School Host Club Funimation (Dub/Sub) 24 eps total Manga: 18/18 volumes available in englishĀ
Set in the high class elite private school of Ouran High, the Host Club exist to provide entertainment for the ladies of the school. Looking for a quiet place to study, Haruhi Fujioka, stumbles across the Host Club and in their haste to leave they knock over an Ā„8,000,000 vase. Now she must earn that money back by working for the Host Club, all the while disguising the fact that sheās a girl. Not that she ever felt much like a girl before hand anyway. Along the way, she gets to know better the Cool Kyoya, the flamboyant Tamaki, the Mischievous Hikaru & Kaoru, the Strong and Silent Mori-senpai and the adorable Honey-senpai. Comedic Hijinks ensue!Ā
Slice of Life
The EmperorĀ and I Manga: 4/4 volumes available in English on Shonen Jump AppĀ
One day Kaho returns home from school to find an Emperor Penguin in her fridge. He quickly becomes a beloved part of the family, but a secret to the rest of the world who would want to take him away from them. Hijinks ensue.Ā
Kakushigoto Funimation (Dub/Sub) 12 Eps TotalĀ
Doting single father, Kakushi Goto, is determined to hide the fact that he writes echhi humour manga for a living. He couldnāt bare it if his daughter were to ever find out the truth, the shame of his profession only alienating her. A laugh out loud series that will suddenly cut you deep as it explores the nature of grief and familial love.Ā
My Brotherās Husband Manga: 2/2 volumes available in EnglishĀ
āYaichi, a stay-at-home single father, lives with his daughter Kana in suburban Tokyo. They are visited by Mike Flanagan, the widower of Yaichi's estranged twin brother RyÅji, who has traveled from his native Canada for three weeks to learn about RyÅji's past. Kana is fascinated by Mike and is immediately accepting of him, though Yaichi is hesitant to accept Mike as family.
While Yaichi is not overtly homophobic, Mike suggests that his tacit discomfort over his brother's sexuality drove a wedge between them that led to their estrangement. Mike's interactions with the family and neighborhood over the subsequent three weeks prompt Yaichi to confront his own prejudices around sex and sexuality, as his growing tolerance and eventual acceptance of Mike parallel his overcoming of his own homophobia.ā
Whilst the trope ofĀ āthe gay brother dies and the heterosexual brother learns not to be homophobicā might be over done in western media, the same is not true for Japan. Itās a heartfelt and honest look at grief and acceptance, as well as how the nature of family is changing all around the world... but attitudes are maybe conservative attitudes arenāt as quick to catch up.Ā
Nichijou: My Ordinary Life Funimation (Dub/Sub)Ā
So apparently everyone wentĀ āthis show is undubbable! It relies too much on puns and untranslatable humour!ā and then Howard Wang saidĀ āhold my beerā and did it. A bizarre comedy series set in a high school. Itās probably best known for the ongoing fight between the deer and the principal.Ā Ā
Way of the HousehusbandĀ Manga: 4/5+ (ongoing) volumes available in EnglishĀ Ā
After he meets and marries the career driven Miku, Tatsu AKA The Immortal Dragon decides to give up his life of crime to commit to being the worldsā best husband. Youād be surprised at the transferable skills between a Yakuza enforcer and a house husband. From knowing how to efficiently cut up a slice of meat, to how to perfectly clean a bathroom of all evidence. Hilarious and heartwarming, Taki and Kyoko would be best bros.Ā
Slice of Life + SupernaturalĀ
The DisastrousĀ Life of Saiki K S1 Funimation (Dub/Sub) 24 episodes Netflix S1 (Dub/Sub) S2 & 3 (Sub) 50 episodes totalĀ
āSaiki Kusuo is a typical 16-year-old high school studentā¦ except he has psychic powers. He can use them to get whatever he wants, but he also knows everything that people are thinking. Everything. No surprises, no secrets, no normal human experiences. Heās kept his powers in check since childhood, but with the temptations of high school now on his mind, heās bending the rulesāand spoons.ā
Sabrina The Teenage Witch (2019)
Writer Kelly Thompson wears her magical girl influences on her sleeve in this new take on the Archie Classic. Sabrina is your regular teenager, except she is also a witch and so are her aunts. Hijinks (and Card Captor Sakura References) ensue.Ā
Toilet Bound Hanako-kun FunimationĀ (Dub/Sub) 12 eps total Manga 13/13 Volumes available in EnglishĀ
āKamome Academy is rumored to have many mysteries, the strangest of which involves the mischievous ghost of Hanako-kun. When occult-loving high schooler Nene Yashiro accidentally becomes bonded to him, she uncovers a hidden world of supernatural beings. Now the two of them are conspiring to keep the peace between student and supernaturalāthat is, if they can only stay out of trouble themselves.ā
Jughead (2015) 4 Volumes total
Bought to you in various parts by the creators of Squirrel Girl, Jughead combines slice of life with spy thriller, time travel and the joy of a good burger. Hilarious and heart warming, this run holds a special place in my heart as the one where Jughead was confirmed as canonically asexual and continues to express various aro/ace moods throughout the series. Thereās a REASON my friends say Iām a Real Life Jughead....Ā
Weathering With You - available digitally/physically 28th Sep. 2019
In June 2021, first year high schooler Hodaka Morishima leaves KÅzu-shima in order to get to Tokyo. When his ferry to the city is hit by a rainstorm, he is saved by Keisuke Suga, who runs a small occult magazine thatās looking for an assistant. As Hodaka becomes broke and struggles to find work, he meets Hina Amano, an employee of a McDonaldās restaurant. She takes pity on him and gives him food. After agreeing to work with Suga, Hodaka learns about the legend of theĀ āsunshine girlā who can control the weather! It turns out that the newly unemployed Hina is a sunshine girl! And with her little brother, they start up their own business to bring sunshine to the never-ending rain of Tokyo.Ā
Yamada-kun and the Seven WitchesĀ Crunchyroll (Dub/Sub) 12 Episodes Total Manga: 22/28 volumes available in EnglishĀ
After tripping on the stairs, School Bad Boy Ryu Yamada and Top StudentĀ Urara Shiraishi discover they can swap bodies with a kiss! They then learn that theyāre not the only ones with magic powers in the school, and with the help of the Supernatural Studies Club they begin to track down the identities of the 7 witches of Suzaku High.Ā
This series really stretches my limits on fan service, but at least it does proceed to get a little even in terms of gender. Itās still a really rather sweet and romantic series, once you get past the boobs and panties.Ā
Your Name Netflix (Dub/Sub) Spin Off MangaĀ āYour Name: Another Side: Earthboundā - 2/2 volumes available in EnglishĀ
A modern take on the Red Sting of Fate mythos, Mitsuha and Taki are two teenagers tied together. Three times a week, Mitsuha will wake up in Takiās body and live the life of a Tokyo School boy. In turn, Taki will wake up in Mitsuhaās body and learn what it is to be a Rural Shrine Maiden. A look at the bonds that tie us, and how fate wonāt let two young people fall apart before they can meet.Ā
Also the animation is BEAUTIFUL and it made me cry. Like a lot. Thereās a spin off manga calledĀ āYour Name: Another Sideā that follows the same story but from the POV of Mitsuhaās friends and family. It really brings new light to the events and made me very emotional.
Mental HealthĀ
Green Lanterns: Rebirth (2018)
Jessica Cruz suffers from PTSD and severer anxiety, seeing her utalising her will power to overcome those problems and harness that energy to help save the universe is so incredibly powerful and moving.Ā
Hawkeye (2012-2015) 4 VolumesĀ
The Fraction/Aja/Wu/Hollingworth Hawkeye run is widely considered one of the best superhero runs of all time. Fraction and Aja perfectly captureĀ āfunctional depressionā at its finest, and we watch as Clint Barton slowly burns all his bridges before being forced by his friends to sort his shit out and put them back together again. Thereās also a whole issue thatās primarily written in sign language too.Ā
My Roomate is a Cat Funimation (Dub) Crunchyroll (Sub) 12 eps totalĀ
āMystery author Mikazuki would rather live in total isolation than deal with others. Getting a roommate is the last thing heād ever do, until a stray cat sparks an idea for his next novel. After plucking the little killer off the streets, this four-legged muse inspires Mikazuki in ways he would have never expected. And for the street-wise cat, this human just opened the door to a whole new world.ā
A Silent Voice (Manga/Movie) Movie: Netflix (Dub/Sub)Ā
āA former class bully reaches out to the deaf girl heād tormented in grade school. He feels unworthy of redemption but tries to make things right.ā
CW Attempted Suicide, bullying
Please watch the dub. Lexi Marman Cowden, who voices Shoko, is an ACTUAL hard-of-hearing actress. It makes for a more real and vulnerable performance that avoids the mild ableism of the Sub hiring a Hearing Actress and robot-ising her voice.Ā
Yuri!!! On ICE Crunchyroll (Sub) Funimation (Dub) 12 eps totalĀ
āYuri Katsuki makes his way to the Grand Prix ice skating competition as Japanās top representative with his eyes on the prize. However, instead of celebrating, Yuri walks away defeated and ready to retire for good. But a run-in with champion Viktor Nikiforov and rising star Yuri Plisetsky ignites a new fire within him. With the two of them close by his side, Yuri will take to the ice once more.ā
Yuriās defeat sends him into a very relatable spiral of lack of self belief that he slowly starts to regain thanks to the help of Viktor. Part sports anime, part love story, all full of feels.Ā
The Dub is considered hit or miss depending on whether you like accents or not, but honestly itās worth it for Sabatās Christophe giacometti. Ayame walked, so Christophe could strut.Ā
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Iām gonna start by recommending the Shonen Jump App, itās Ā£1.99/month and gives you access to all their recent publications as well as their back catalogue in English! So you can read all of Boys Over Flowers, Nisekoi, Naruto, One Piece, Haikyuu, Assassination Classroom, My Hero Academia etc. for a fraction of the cost of buying the physicals! SO much manga at your finger tips! No, they donāt sponsor me but i wish they would.Ā
Astra Lost in Space Funimation (Dub/Sub) 12 Eps Total Manga: 5/5 volumes available in english, available on the Shonen Jump App
A group of teenagers on a school trip become Lost In Space and quickly discover a conspiracy is a foot. Part thriller, part comedy, saying anything more about this series would count as a spoiler given the number of plot twists throughout.Ā
Radiant Funimation (Dub) Crunchyroll (Sub) 42 eps total Manga: 13/13+ volumes available in english (ongoing series)
A french manga turned into a Japanese Anime.
āSeth, a sorcerer destined to find Radiant, sets his sights on Caislean Merlin for answers. Heās desperate to find out what the Knight Sorcerers know, but can he trust them? In the wake of all that is unknown, he digs deep within himself for the wisdom and confidence to control his powers. And as the world around him continues to grow with more magic and power, he gains strong new allies.ā
The series has BIG Saturday Morning cartoon vibes. My 12 year-old self would have been ALL OVER this.
Batman Ninja (Netflix)Ā Ā
What if a Japanese animation studio asked DC if they could make a batman movie? And then just threw a Japanese history book at it? What if there was time travel? What if the main batman villains were all feudal lords in Japan? What if everyone were Samari? What if Damian had a small animal companion he could communicate with using a flue? What if Jasonās hood was made out of wicker? What if Penguin had a penguin shaped mecha?Ā
A wild ride from start to finish that makes no sense but really, do you care?Ā
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Mosaic (Disenchantment Fanfiction)
Summary: We are just mosaics of everyone we love and that mosaic shows everyone we love how beautiful they are.Ā Bean doesnāt think she can love like everyone else but maybe thatās okay.
Fandom: DisenchantmentĀ
Word Count: 2K
Characters: Bean
Relationships: Bean/ Mora, Mentioned Bean & Everyone, Mentioned Odval/ Sorcerio, Mentioned Zog/ Oona, Mentioned Zog/ Dagmar
Warnings: Internalized arophobia, first person pov, some self-deprecation, sex mention, drug mention, mention of interspecies relationships in fantasy settingĀ
Other Tags: F/F, Mentioned F/F QPR, Reflection/ Self-Reflection/ Internal Thoughts, No Dialogue, Queerplatonic, Aromantic Character, Aromantic Homosexual Character, Arospec Character, Queer Themes, Unreliable Narrarator, S3E6, Oneshot, AroWriMo 2021
Authorās Note: My friend sent me the line āI am a mosaic of everyone Iāve ever lovedā about twenty minutes after I watched āFinal Splash.ā Iām working on the prompt for Week 2 of AroWriMo rn but I had to drop everything and write a short fic about this. Again, I didnāt really use the prompt but it kind of fits with week 1ās prompt romo/loveless & future.Ā
Iām headcanonnoning Bean as aro or demiro/ greyro. I think in the show it was implied she never experienced romantic attraction prior to meeting Mora because she likes women and I donāt want to erase that in any way but Bean still gives off a big aromantic bisexual homo(queer)platonic vibe.
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My name is Princess Tiabeanie of Dreamland and Iāve never loved anyone.
I mean, I love my dad and my friends and all that but Iāve never loved loved anyone. Is that weird to say? That makes it sound like I donāt really love my dad and Elfo and Luci and everyone. I probably shouldnāt say that then because I actually love them a lot. Theyāre my everything.Ā
One time, I was walking down Elf-Ally and this elf was sitting on the side of the road with some chalk. I feel like elves would really like chalk but Iāve never seen any of them use it, not even Arto, except this guy. Iād never seen anything like it before so I asked what he was doing and he said he was making this mosaic to show his love for this other elf he liked. I didnāt really understand it so he explained it to me like this: we are just mosaics of everyone we love and that mosaic shows everyone we love how beautiful they are.
I still didnāt get it so I just laughed at him and he got kind of upset and threw a piece of chalk at me. It didnāt really hurt but Luci was with me and the elf started throwing stuff at him and you know how Luci gets when he hits his nose so we left. I couldnāt really forget what that elf said though.Ā
You see, a mosaic is a mix of a bunch of little pieces taken from different things that all come together to make one thing. Thereās this mosaic at the church and itās pretty freaking ugly but the mosaic this elf was making was just so beautiful. He used so many colors and he drew all these little pictures and hid these words I didnāt understand in them. Iād expect it to be all crude and gross like those scribbly pictures Derek would draw when he was younger that Oona pretended to love but it all came together so well. It didnāt even look like separate pieces. It was just one.
I couldnāt stop thinking about it. The influences of countless parts of my life, weaving together into an insanely complex mesh- That felt like me. I always felt like something was broken in me but maybe Iām just a mosaic.Ā
I think my dad made me who I am the most. Even if he wasnāt really present most of my life. Sure, we donāt see eye to eye sometimes but I think weāre better because of that. He made me strong. His actions guided me into becoming the woman I am today. He taught me how to keep fighting. Literally and figuratively. He taught me to keep my head up and he taught me how to stab people. Itās pretty cool. I remember this one time as a kid he took me out to the courtyard, stole this guyās knife, and taught me how to use it. I think I still have the knife actually. I donāt stab people with it anymore though.
(I hope heās okay. He hasnāt been the same in awhile.)
My momā¦ Well, I donāt really love her anymore but I did for a long time. She wasā¦ How do I put it? A constant in my life. Even though she wasnāt there. What I felt towards her, it kept me together for a long time. When I had nothing to fall back on, I always had her memory. Until she tried to take over Dreamland, obviously. Now I just say she gave me my love for alcohol and thatās pretty sweet too.Ā
(I still miss her. I bet sheās dead.)
You know those pictures where the guy has an angel and demon on his shoulders telling him what to do? Thatās Elfo and Luci, and itās literal for Luci. And maybe for Elfo? He did go to heaven that one time. It can be kind of annoying to hear them bickering all the time, especially since they almost never want the same thing, but I wouldnāt trade them for anything. Elfo keeps me safe and Luci pushes me to be more than I am. They make life fun. Fuller. Less lonely.
(Iām scared they might leave someday. I wouldnāt blame them.)
I donāt really like Derek but I still love him. Maybe a little less since he tried to burn me at the stake. Maybe a little more since he chickened out at the last second. And a little less because he still went through with it. And maybe a little more since it was an accident. We have a complicated relationship but heās still my little brother, as weird as he is. He reminds me of what I have to fight for, if that makes sense. I donāt really see him as the future of Dreamland or anything but heās still a little kid and I canāt really help but have a soft spot for him. Donāt tell him I said that.
(I wonder if heāll keep me around when heās king. Iād be lying if I said I was surprised.)
The same goes for Oona. I never liked her but I think I love her. Especially after she tried to save me from my mom. And since she became an epic pirate. Sheās awesome. Sheās the mom I always wished I had except she was actually there the whole time and I didnāt realize it. Iām happy with how things turned out though. I donāt regret it. Plus sheās got great taste in drugs. I still steal them sometimes.
(I donāt know if she loves me. Maybe she did once but not anymore.)
I kind of hate Odval and Sorcerio in a weird way where I like them at the same time. Theyāre not really family but always been there. Like theyāre kind of like second dads to me. Second dads whose the sex lives I know way too much about. My gay polyamorous uncles? But they kind of care under all that court properness and tradition nonsense so theyāve kind of wormed their way into my heart. Theyāve always made my life difficult but I donāt think I would be myself if I wasnāt challenged so much.
(I think theyād rather have me gone. They donāt hide it every well but I can pretend.)
Iām going to be honest, I was really bummed when Pendergast died. We were kind of the same age and he hung around the castle for most of my life. And my dad trusted him so we actually did stuff together sometimes. A lot of adventures that never really went anywhere. He could be kind of a stick in the mud but he never really minded that Iām a girl and let me tag along on crusades and helped me get better with weapons and stuff. And Pendergast was weirdly loyal to Dreamland, even after Dad forked his eye out. Or was it spooned? I donāt remember. Some kind of eating utensil. I wasnāt there when it happened. But it was nice knowing I could trust him. He could be kind of fun though when he was off-duty. Total lightweight though. He threw up on one of those little guys who carries dadās cape once.Ā
(I wish Iād known him better. I really miss him but I canāt tell anyone since Dad gets set off by anything that even reminds him of the guy.)
Who else is there? Thatās right, Mertz and Turbish. Turbish and Mertz. Two peas in a pod. Plus Mrs. Mertz. Donāt get me wrong, they are idiots. Totally incompentant. Itās a wonder theyāre still alive. But theyāre sweet. And they try. Theyāre not good at anything but they try. Sometimes I donāt want to try but they tell me I always can.
(Iām waiting for the day they realize they could have a better life. Itāll be weird not having them around the palace.)
I even kind of like Merkimer. As a pig, not a human. God, he was an awful human but heās a funny little pig. He lets Luci ride on his back sometimes. Both of them like it way more than either of them will ever admit. Itās cute. I think theyāre friends. If theyāre not, Elfo and I will start plotting until they are. Or maybe not. A Luci-Merkimer friendship might be too much for Dreamland to handle. Theyāre kind of a lot, even on their own. Merkimer always kind of had a big head and it only got bigger when he accepted his new life. Itās actually kind of inspiring how happy he is now.Ā
(I donāt want him to change but he already has. It makes me sad sometimes.)
And Bunty. Oh, Bunty. And Stan! The world doesnāt really deserve Bunty. Stan does though. I think theyāre the ones who taught me what real love is. Bunty always showed me love as a kid, she was like the second mom I never had but actually did have because Oona was there. But she gave me something neither Oona or Dagmar could. I didnāt really understand it until I saw her and Stan and their family together. I still donāt. Theyāre really sweet.
(Iād give them everything. I know they just see me as some spoiled princess though.)
I want what those two have. Or what Odval and Sorcerio have. What my dad had with Dagmar or Oona. What Elfoās had, and Luciās had, and Derekās had, and the knights have had. It feels like everyoneās had that kind of deep love at some point except me. I didnāt even realize until I was talking to Mora.Ā
Iāve had the chance to have it. Merkimer, that brother of his I accidentally killed, that one time Pendergast made a pass at me, that Steamland guyā¦ I donāt think any of it really wouldāve worked out though. Iāve had a lot of things with guys and thereās been kissing and touching and Iāve always enjoyed it but I think I always knew it would never go anywhere. That it will never go anywhere. And I canāt even blame my dad because itās all me. Itās always been me. And Iām okay with that? Maybe? I donāt think so but Iām not really good at understanding my feelings. Itās just another thing on the pile of things I wonāt work through.
I think I understood what I had with Mora though. It wasnātā¦ romantic but it felt like it almost was. We justā¦ clicked. It felt right. She was tough and funny and she didnāt hold anything back. She followed her dreams and didnāt let the world get her down. That one night we had together, I felt like we were alone in the world.
Mora gave me the ocean and the stars.
She was beautiful. Maybe thatās what was missing? None of the guys I ever screwed around with were beautiful. Not like Mora was. Not like a woman can be. I really felt like this was it but there was still that disconnect. Like something was there but not quite. Like something was missing. I donāt know what it was.
But then she just left. I had that dream and I just felt so happy. Iād never felt happiness like that. And I never felt pain like the pain I felt when I woke up and the necklace was gone. I definitely wouldāve cried if Elfo wasnāt there. I mightāve actually cried a little bit. Itās kind of hard to hear anything when Elfoās sobbing. Some of those tears might have been mine.
Did I love her? I donāt think so. Not like Elfo loved that boat. It wasnāt romantic. But it was real. It gives me hope. I donāt think Iām capable of the same kind of love everyone else seems capable of and thatās not even a slight at me. Itās just reality. But what I had with Mora, however brief and imagined it was, tells me thatās okay. I donāt need the kind of love everyone else has. Not when I have so many others in my life.
Still, I hope I see her again, even for a second, just to feel that kind of happiness again.
I think thatās what that elf meant when he said we are just mosaics of everyone we love and that mosaic shows everyone we love how beautiful they are. Mora was beautiful and she didnāt see it but maybe she would if she saw how I looked at her.Ā
Stars and the ocean, Iāll never forget them. Theyāll be a part of my mosaic forever.
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Hereās How to Radicalize a Normie, a video essay on how the Alt-Right and their fellow travelers recruit. Clocking in at 41 minutes, 6756 words, 633 individual drawings, and 27 sources (including three full books), it is by far the longest and most heavily-researched video in The Alt-Right Playbook. I am very tired.
It took so long to put this behemoth together that my Patreon started to dip. So, maybe a little more than usual, if you want to keep seeing videos like these, please consider backing me on Patreon.
Transcript below the cut.
Say, for the sake of argument, your friend Gabe is starting to worry you.
Gabeās always been just, you know, a regular guy. Not very political. He likes video games, sci-fi, comics, Star Wars, and anime. White guy shit. The only offbeat thing about him is you suspect thereās like a 20% chance heās a furry. For all intents and purposes, Gabe is a normie.
But recently Gabeās been spending a lot of time on some radically conservative forums, and listening to radically conservative podcasts, and picking some radically conservative arguments with you and your friends. You never would have expected this, not from Gabe, and, given the speed itās happened, itās worrying to think where it might be headed.
How have the Alt-Right gotten their hooks into your friend?
If youāve ever known a Gabe, this video is for you. Hereās How to Radicalize a Normie.
Step 1: Identify the Audience
What you need to know before we begin is: around 2013, the Nazis went online.
Hate groups in the US, as tracked by the Southern Poverty Law Center, had been growing in number since the noughts, but, between 2012 and 2014, they dropped by almost a quarter. Patriot groups dropped by over a third. However, hate crimes stayed about the same. Radical conservatism was not shrinking, but decentralizing. Still radical, still often violent, but now full of white nationalist nomads unlikely to join a formal organization.
This didnāt make them harmless. What it did was protect their asses from the typical hate group cycle: getting the publicās attention, making allies in conservative media, swelling their numbers, and then eventually disgracing themselves with failures, infighting, and, often enough, members committing horrific acts of violence, which come with social and sometimes legal consequences for all the other members.
So the Alt-Right and their fellow travelers these days donāt so much have members. They have hashtags, followers, viewers, and subscribers. This insulates them from their own audience. If Gabe, as a member of that audience, were to go out and commit a crime on their behalf, thereād be little doubt they had a hand in radicalizing him, but itād be very hard to claim they told him to do it. On some of these sites, where Gabe spends hours and hours of his day, heās never created an account or left a comment; the people radicalizing him donāt even know heās there.
This distributed nature is what makes the Alt-Right, and the movements connected to it, unique. (You may remember a notable proof-of-concept for this strategy.) Doing almost everything online has, as compared with traditional hate movements, dramatically increased their reach and inoculated them from consequence. The trade-off, as we will see, is a lack of control.
And so we come to Gabe.
Gabe exists at the intersection of the kinds of people the Alt-Right is looking for - straight white cis men who feel emasculated by modern society, primarily, though they do make exceptions - and the kinds of people who are vulnerable to recruitment. Gabe fits the first profile in that he got bullied in high school, and often feels he has to hide his nerdy side for fear of getting ridiculed. The Alt-Right also has success with men who canāt get laid or recently got divorced or feel anxious about an influx of non-white people in their community. These things can make one feel like less than the confident white man theyāre āsupposedā to be. And itās the closest they will ever come to being minoritized.
Regarding the second profile, itās important to know that Gabe is not categorically different from you or me. Heās a cishet white dude - his problems are not unique. There isnāt a ton of research into the demography of the Alt-Right, but there may be a higher-than-average chance Gabe has a history of being abused or comes from a broken home. You donāt know if itās true of Gabe, heās never said. But most abuse survivors donāt become Nazis. The things that make people like Gabe recruitable tend to be situational: it happens often during periods of transition, as dramatic as the death of a loved or as benign as moving to a new city. Things that make people ask big life questions. Gabe has concerns like economic precarity, not knowing his place in a changing world, stressful working conditions. In other words, Gabe is suffering under late capitalism, same as everyone, and itās entirely plausible he could have gone down the path to becoming a Leftist.
This is not to make an āeconomic anxietyā argument: the animating force of the Far Right is and always has been bigotry. But the Alt-Right targets Gabe by treating his āeconomic anxietyā as one of many things bigotry can be sold as a solution to. It is their aim that, when dissatisfied white men go looking for answers, they find the Alt-Right before they find us.
Step Two: Establish a Community
Were Gabe pledging an old-school hate movement, there would probably be a recruiter to usher him into an existing community. But thatās the kind of formalized interaction modern extremists try to avoid. Online extremism has many points of entry, and everybodyās journey is unique, so rather than be comprehensive we will focus on what are, in my estimation, the two most common pathways: the Far Right creates a community Gabe is likely to stumble into, or infiltrates a community Gabe is already in.
The stumble-upon method has two main branches, one of which is just āGabe ends up on a chan board,ā which weāve already done a video about. The other is kind of the polar opposite of 4chanās cult of anonymity: Gabe ends up in the fandom of a Far Right thought leader.
These folks are charismatic media personalities (thatās charismatic according to Gabeās tastes, not ours; I donāt understand it, either). These personalities may gain traction on any number of platforms, from podcasts to reportage to blogging, though the most effective platform for redpilling is, and yes I am biting the hand that feeds me, YouTube. They may get Gabeās attention through fairly standard means, like talking about or even generating controversy to get themselves trending, while some of the more committed will employ dubious SEO tactics like clickbait, google bombing, and data voids (just pause for definitions, we donāt have time).
What they tend to have in common, especially the most accessible ones, is that they donāt present themselves as entry points to the radical Right. In fact, many did not set out to be Far Right thought leaders, and may not think of themselves as such (though they are often selling products, of which the Alt-Right are among their biggest purchasers, and itās not like theyāre turning the money away). How they present is the same way anyone presents who wants to be successful on social media: accessible, approachable, authentic. The face-to-face relationship a budding extremist forms with their recruiter or the leader of their hate groupās local chapter are here folded into one parasocial relationship with a complete stranger.
Why this person appeals to Gabe is theyāre not selling politics as politics, but conservatism as a kind of lifestyle brand. They rely heavily on criticizing or ridiculing the Left: feminists are oversensitive, Black people unintelligent, queer folks doomed to loneliness, and trans people insane; I dunno if itās a coincidence that these are all things Gabe thinks about himself in his low moments. By contrast, they donāt sell conservatism as having sounder policies or a more coherent moral framework, but that abandoning progressive principles and embracing conservative ones will make Gabe happier. Remember, Gabe isnāt looking for white nationalism or misogyny, what he wants is the cure to soul-sickness, and these friendly micro-celebs are here to offer a shot of life advice with politics as the chaser. It is extremely important that politics be presented as a set of affects, not a set of beliefs.
The second pathway is infiltration, which is its own beast. Media personalities sometimes become gateways to the Right almost by accident: they do something edgy, a part of their audience reacts positively, and, facing no real consequence, they do it more; this leads to further positive reinforcement from conservative fans, the rest of the audience acclimates, and the cycle repeats, the personality pushing the envelope further and further based on what flies with their increasingly conservative audience. In this way, they become a right-wing figure by both radicalizing and being radicalized by their audience.
Infiltration is deliberate.
The Far Right will reliably target any community that has 1) a large, white, male population, 2) whose niche interests allow them to feel vaguely marginalized, and 3) who are not used to progressive critique of said interests. This isnāt to say progressive critique doesnāt exist, or hasnāt been baked into the property from the beginning, but that it has been, so far, easy for white guys to ignore. As such, progressives within that community probably donāt talk politics much, and women and minorities are perfectly welcome to post, same as anyone, but just, you know, donāt, donāt make identity politics, you know, like, a thing.
Given Gabeās proclivities, heās probably already in a number of fan communities where he can geek out and not get teased. And this is where the Far Right will go looking for him
Communities are at their most vulnerable to infiltration at times of political discord. This can happen naturally - say, a new property in the fandom has a Black protagonist - or it can be provoked - say, a bunch of channers join the forum and say provocative things about race to get people arguing - or both. Left to its own devices, the community might sort out its differences and maybe even come out more progressive than they started. But, with the right pressure applied in the right moment, these communities can devolve into arguments about the need to remove a nebulously-defined āpoliticsā from the conversation.
The adage about bros on the internet is āāpoliticalā means anything I disagree with,ā but itād be more accurate to say, here, āāpoliticalā means anything on which the community disagrees.ā For instance, āNazis are badā is an apolitical statement because everyone in the community agrees. Itās common sense, and therefore neutral. But, paradoxically, āNazis are goodā is also apolitical; because āNazis are badā is the consensus, āNazis are goodā must be just an edgy joke, and, even if not, the community already believes the opposite, so the statement is harmless. Tolerable. However, āfeminism is goodā is a political statement, because the community hasnāt reached consensus. It is debatable, and therefore political, and you should stop talking about it. And making political arguments, no matter how rational, is having an agenda, and having an agenda is ruining the community.
(Now, it is curious how the things that provoke the most disagreement tend to be whichever ones make white dudes uncomfortable. One of lifeās great, unanswerable mysteries.)
You can gather where this is going: a community that doesnāt tolerate progressivism but does tolerate Nazism is going to start collecting Nazis, Nazis whose goal is to drive a wedge between the community and the Left. Once the Left acknowledges, āHey, your communityās developing a Nazi problem,ā the Nazis - who are, remember, trusted, apolitical members of the community who might just be kidding about all the Nazi shit - say, āDid you hear that, guys?! Those cultural Marxists just called all of us Nazis!ā Wedge. Similarly, any community members who say, ābut Nazis thoughā are framed as infiltrators pushing an agenda, even if theyāve been there longer than the Nazis have. They get the wedge, too.
This is how fandoms radicalize. They are built as - yeah, Iāll say it - safe spaces for nerds, weebs, and furries, and are told that the Left is a threat to their safety. Given a choice between leaving a community that has mattered to him for years and simply adjusting to the communityās shifting politics, the assumption is that Gabe will stay. This assumption is right often enough that a lot of fandoms have been colonized.
What is true of both of these methods - Gabe finding the Right or the Right finding him - is that Gabe does not come nor stay for the ideology. Heās here for the community, the sense of belonging, of being with his people, of having his fears validated and his enjoyment shared. The ideology is simply the price of admission.
Step Three: Isolate
There is a vast, interconnected network of Far Right communities out there, and Gabe is, at this point, only on the periphery. In order to keep him in, they need to disrupt his relationships to other communities, and become, more and more, his primary online social space. Having made this space hostile to the Left, they now seek to break his connections to progressives elsewhere in his life.
This is hard to do online. The whole appeal of moving radicalism to the internet is that your away-from-keyboard life doesnāt have to change. You are crypto the moment you log off. Some thought leaders will encourage their audience to cut ties with Family of Origin, or ādeFOO,ā but, even then, they canāt monitor whether the audience has actually done it the way an in-person movement could. And so alienating Gabe from the Left is less controlled, and, consequently, may be less total. How much Gabe isolates is up to him.
But the vast majority of Far Right media presumes an alienation from the Left. Part of conservative bloggers and YouTubers making the Left look pathetic is doing a lot take-downs and responses. This is a constant repetition of the Leftās arguments for the purpose of mockery, and, for Gabe, it starts to replace any engagement with progressive media directly. He soon knows the Left only through caricature. It also trains him, if he does directly engage, to approach the Left with the same combative stance as his role models. (For reference, see my comment section.) And this is only if he doesnāt partake in one of the many active boycotts of āSJW media.ā
In addition to mocking the Leftās arguments, they also, curiously, appropriate them. This is one part sanitization: liberal centrism is more socially acceptable; indeed, many figures on the outer layers think of themselves as moderates, even as they serve as gateways to radicalism. But, also, many of Gabeās problems could be addressed by progressive leftism, so they sell him racist, sexist versions of it. Yes, there is a problem with workers being underpaid and overextended, but the solution isnāt unions, itās deporting immigrants; yes, there is a chronic loneliness and anger to being a man in the modern age, but itās not because of the toxic masculine expectations placed on you by the patriarchy, itās women being slutty; yes, wealth disparity does mean a tiny percentage of elites have more influence over culture and politics than the rest of us combined, but the problem isnāt capitalism, itās the Jews. And itās hard for Gabe to reject these ideas without, in the process, rejecting the progressive ideas theyāre copied from; the Rightās ātake the red pillā is, to the untrained eye, similar to the Leftās āget woke.ā (Or, at least, the bowdlerized version of āget wokeā that is no longer specifically about race which came to fashion when white people started saying it, grumble grumble.)
Take the red pill or reject them both; either is a step to the right.
As this rhetoric slips into his day-to-day conversation, even as seemingly harmless āirreverence,ā it may strain relationships with people who are not entertained by this shit. Off-color comments about race and gender can certainly be wearying for female and non-white friends, which can lead to a passive distance or an eventual confrontation [āwhy is everyone but me so sensitive?!ā], which only seem to confirm what his reactionary community says about liberal snowflakes. If he says these things on social media, he may get his account suspended, and, if he comes back under an alt, you can bet his new reactionary friends will be the first to reconnect, applaud the behavior that got him banned, and repeat should he get banned again. A few cycles of this and heās lost touch with everyone else.
Also, his adoption of the insular, meme-laden terminology of this community makes him less and less comprehensible to outsiders.
Over time, sources of information get replaced with community-approved ones: conservative news, conservative YouTube, conservative Wikipedia if heās really committed. The Algorithm soon takes note and stops recommending media from the Left. He stops watching shows with a āliberal agenda,ā which usually means shows starring women and people of color. Now, there is evidence that the human mind responds to fictional characters similarly to real people, and that consuming diverse media can decrease bigotry in ways roughly analogous to having a diverse group of friends, which is one of many reasons we say representation matters. By consuming a homogenous media diet, Gabe stymies his ability to have even parasocial relationships with anyone who isnāt a cishet conservative white dude or one of their approved exceptions.
To the extent that any of this happens, it happens at Gabeās discretion and at his own chosen pace. It has not been forced on him, only encouraged and rewarded. But the fact that it hasnāt been forced can make him all the more willing to accept it, because it seems safe to consider; even though his life and social circle are changing to accommodate, he does not feel committed. But many Gabes have walked these halls, and, if they close the door behind them, thereās nowhere left to go but down.
Step Four: Raise their Power Level
(...and they say we ruined anime.)
Consider the ecosystem of the Alt-Right as layers of an onion, with Gabe sitting at the edge and ready to traverse towards the center. (No, Iām not just going to reiterate the PewDiePipeline, though, if you havenāt seen it, go do that.)
The outer layer of the onion is extremism at its most plausibly deniable. Without careful scrutiny, the public-facing figureheads could pass as dispassionate, and the websites as merely problematic rather than softly fascist. It is valuable if Gabe believes this as well; that, at this stage, he believe the bigotry is simply trolling, the extremists an insignificant minority, and any report of harassment faked. That he believe where he is is as deep as the rabbit hole goes. And that he continue to believe this at each successive layer.
People in the deepest crevices of the Alt-Right self-report getting redpilled on multiple issues at different times in their journey to the center of the onion. If Gabeās first red pill is about the SJWs coming for his free speech, heāll think thatās all anyone in his community believes; thereās no racism here, people are just making a point about their right to use slurs. Then, when he gets redpilled on the white genocide, heāll laugh at those Alt-Lite cucks who tried to sweep the race realists under the rug, and at himself for having once been one, but acknowledge that those channels and websites are still useful for onboarding people, so he wonāt denounce them. At the same time, nobody takes those manosphere betas seriously.
And this process is reiterated with every pill swallowed: gender essentialism, autogynephilia, birtherism, Sandy Hook truth, pizzagate, QAnon if heās really out there. The heart of the onion is typically the Jewish Question, but these can happen in any order, and in any number. But each layer sells itself as being, finally, the ultimate truth. Each denies the validity of the others; the layers ahead donāt exist, theyāre made up my liberals, while the people behind are asleep where you are now awake. Thatās why they chose āthe red pillā as their metaphor: take it, and everything will be revealed. Thatās why it cozies up with conspiracism. But whatās supposed to follow is that this knowledge help Gabe in some way, and it doesnāt. Blaming immigrants doesnāt actually fix the economy, and hating women doesnāt make men less lonely. But, having been alienated from everything outside the onion, once that sinks in, the only recourse on offer is to seek out the next pill.
And pills are easy to find. Those within the network have laissez-faire relationships, even as they, on paper, disavow one another. When they need a source or a guest host, they arenāt going to go to the Left; theyāre going to feature each other. The Left is the enemy; their ideas are beneath consideration, and the only reason to engage them is for public humiliation. [Shapiroās book.] But you can interview āwestern chauvinistsā and that doesnāt mean youāre endorsing them, just, you know, itās fine to hear āem out, nothing should be off-limits in the marketplace of ideas. Besides, Nazis are apolitical.
And because these folks keep showing up in each othersā metadata, regardless of what they say, Google thinks there is definitely a relationship between the guy ājust asking questionsā and the guy denying the Holocaust. Gabe is softly exposed to many flavors of conservatism just slightly more radical than he is now, and is expected, at the very least, to not question their presence. This is an environment where deradicalizing - listening to the Left - would be sleeping with the enemy, but radicalizing further? You do you, buddy.
Gabeās emotional journey, however, is somewhat more complex. If youāve spent any time reading or watching reactionary media youāve probably noticed itās really. fucking. repetitive. Itās a few thousand phrasings of the same handful of arguments. Like, thereās only so many jokes about attack helicopters! But these people just crank out content, and most of itās derivative; the reason to pick one personality over another isnāt because they say something different, but because they say it differently. Gabe just picks the affect itās delivered in.
Repetition dulls the shock of the most egregious statements, making them appear normal and prepping him for more extreme ideas. Meanwhile, the arguments themselves? Theyāre not good. (BreadTube will never run out of shit to debunk.) They are repetitive because theyāre not good. Theyāre mantric. A good argument you only need to hear one time; if you can follow it, internalize it, and explain it to someone else, you know youāve understood it. But a bad argument canāt convince you on its own merits, so it will often rely on affect. This can be the snappy, thought-terminating cliche, or the long, winding diatribe that sounds really sensible while youāre hearing it but when someone asks you for the gist you can only say āgo watch these 17 videos and itāll all make sense.ā Both these approaches are largely devoid of content, but, gosh, if they donāt sound sure of themselves.
And that mode can be very persuasive, but it doesnāt stick the way a coherent argument does. It needs to be repeated, the affect replenished, because the words matter less than the delivery. There needs to be a steady stream of confident voices saying āweāve got this figured out and everyone else is stupidā or Gabeās gonna notice the flaws. They are not well-hidden.
And the catch-22 of returning to that stream over and over is that these communities are stressful even as they are calming. People afraid they will die virgins go to forums with people who share and validate that fear, and also say, āYes, you will die a virgin.ā People afraid Syrians are coming to kill us all watch videos by people who share and validate that fear, and also say, āYes, Syrians are coming to kill us all.ā Others have already pointed out that rubbing your face in your worst anxieties is a form of digital self-harm, but I need to you understand the toxic recursion of it: Gabe is going to these communities to get upset. Every emotion is converted into anger, because sadness, fear, and despair are paralyzing but anger is motivating; Gabe feels less helpless when heās pissed off. And so, while heās topping up on reassuring nonsense, heās also topping up on stress. And, being cut off from everything outside the network, the only place he knows to go to release that stress is back to the place that gives it to him. Itās a feedback loop, pulling him deeper and deeper on the promise that, at some point, relief will come.
It is a similar dynamic that keeps people in abusive relationships.
When someone in Gabeās community makes a racist joke, they are presenting Gabe with a choice between the human interaction of laughing with his friends and his societal responsibility not to be a fuckinā racist. And not laughing seems ridiculous; everybodyās friends here; no oneās getting hurt; this is harmless. And so the irreverent race joke draws a line between the personal and the political, and suggests that one can be safely prioritized over the other. One way to look at radicalization is being asked to stick with that seemingly innocuous decision as the stakes are raised incrementally: first with edgier humor, and then comments that are funny because theyāre shocking but you couldnāt really call them jokes, and then āfunnyā comments that are also sincerely angry, but, in each instance, since he laughed with his bros last time, it stands to reason he should keep favoring the personal over some abstracted notion of āpolitics.ā
This is why the progressive adage āthe personal is politicalā is among the most threatening things you can say in these spaces.
Iām not trying to make a slippery slope argument. Most of us who laughed at edgy jokes when we were teenagers didnāt grow up to be Nazis. It is a slippery slope in the specific context of being in community with people trying to radicalize you. Gabe is a lonely white boy in need of friends, and laughing at a racist joke is personal, while not laughing is political. Staying in a community that has Nazis in it is personal, and leaving is political. The personal is what brings people together and the political drives them apart. (The āonly if some of them are bigotsā part of that sentence is usually lopped off). Thereās this joke on the internet that nerds perceive only two races: white and political. Following that logic, what could be more apolitical than an ethnostate?
They are banking on his willingness to adapt his beliefs to suit an environment that meets a need. That same need can be satisfied by white nationalism. There are few things more seductive to people who doubt their own worth than being told you are valuable simply for being white. And you can sub in male, cis, straight, allosexual, or able-bodied. It just takes priming: by the time Gabe officially embraces bigotry, heās already been acting like a bigot for months. The red pill is simply the moment he says it out loud.
Change Gabeās surroundings, and you change Gabe.
Step Five: ???
The final step in a traditional extremist group would be getting a mission. But that is one thing the Alt-Right canāt do. Once you start giving clear directives, you canāt play yourselves off as a bunch of unaffiliated hashtags and think tanks; you are now a formalized movement accountable to its followers, and can be judged and policed as such.
To my mind, Charlottesville was an attempt to become such a movement, taking things offline and getting all the different groups working collectively. And, as so often happens when these people get in the same space - especially with no official leaders or means of control over their members - it backfired. Their true colors came out before they were ready and a counter-protester lost her life.
This would be the point where, historically, an extremist group starts to disintegrate. Their veneer of respectability gone, theyāre now hated by the public, the media wants nothing more to do with them, and everyone not in jail turns on each other or goes underground. This is also the point where the liberal establishment says, āMy job here is done,ā and utterly fails to retake control of the narrative, allowing the next batch of radicals to pick up more or less where the last one left off.
But to an already-decentralized group like the Alt-Right, Charlottesville was bad but eminently survivable. People retreated back to the internet, with its code words and anonymous forums, but thatās where much of the work was already done anyway. The platforms where they organized kept tolerating them, the authorities still didnāt classify them as terrorists, and any disgraced figureheads were replaced with up-and-comers.
The major change in strategy is that it doesnāt seem anyone has tried to formalize the Alt-Right since.
So where does that leave Gabe? Heās gone through this whole process of largely hands-off indoctrination - and I should stress his journey may look like what weāve outlined or it may look different in places, this video is not comprehensive - but now heās swallowed every pill he cares to, he blames half a dozen minorities for everything he sees as wrong with the world, and no one will give him anything to do. Youāve got this ad hoc movement frothing young men into a militant fervor and then just leaving them to stew in their own hate. Should we really be surprised at how many commit mass shootings?
This is a machine for producing lone wolves.
Leaving men to take up arms of their own volition is a way of enacting terror while being just outside the popular conception of a terror cell. There are also, of course, more classic militias that will offer Gabe clear directives - theyāre recruiting from the same pool. And Gabe may stop short of this step, settling in a middle layer that suits him or finding the inner layers too extreme. But violence is the logical conclusion of an ideology of hate, and, should Gabe take this step, he can approach violence in the same incremental fashion he approached conservatism.
He can start with yelling at people on Twitter, and then maybe collective brigading, DDoS attacks, sharing dox, leaking nudes, calling their phone numbers, texting them pictures of their houses from the sidewalk. These acts of cruelty become games of oneupmanship within his community. All this can start as far back as Step 2, and get more intense the deeper he goes. Some people join explicitly partake in harassment and violence the way Gabe joined to talk about anime.
But this behavior can serve as a kind of buy-in. The Left and the feminists and the LGBTQs and the Muslims and the immigrants are all, within his community, subhuman. Youāve maybe heard the conservative catchphrase āfeminism is cancerā; well donāt treat cancer by having a respectful exchange of ideas with it, but by eradicating it down to the last cell. Cruelty against the Left is framed as righteous.
From any other perspective, posting someoneās bank information is something you might feel ashamed of. Which creates a psychological imperative not to consider other perspectives. A thing that keeps people in is staving off the guilt they will reckon with the moment they step out. Gabe is also aware that anything heās done to the Left could be done to him if he leaves; some communities even keep dox on their members as insurance. And the things heās been encouraged to do to the Left will likely make him feel that the Left would never take him now; the radical Right is the only home heās got. Harassment becomes another tool of isolation.
Steadily, options for Gabe are whittled down to being a vigilante or a nihilist. There are periods of elation: moments the Alt-Right feels itās winning - or, more accurately, the people they hate are losing - are like cocaine. They are authoritarians, after all. But the times in between are mean and angry. They are antisocial, starved of emotional connection, consuming incompatible conspiracies that may at any point run them afoul of one another, devoted to figureheads who cater to but cannot risk leading them, and living under constant threat of being outed to the Left or turned on by the Right for stepping out of line. Gabe took this journey for the sense of community and purpose, and, but for the rare moments everything goes their way, the Alt-Right canāt maintain either. They can only keep promising his day will come, a story he could get from a $5 palm reading.
The feeling thereās nothing left but to kill yourself or someone else is so common itās a meme.
But there is always a third option: Gabe can leave.
Pre-Conclusion: For Fuckās Sake Do Not Make Gabe Your Whole-Ass Praxis
Before we continue, I want to state plainly that Gabe went off the deep end because he found a community willing to tell him that, because he is a cishet white man, the world revolves around him. Do not treat him like this is true.
If a fraction of the energy spent having debates with Americaās Gabes were spent instead on voter re-enfranchisement, prisonerās rights, protections for immigrants, statehood for DC and Puerto Rico, and redistricting, Gabeās opinions, in the societal sense, wouldnāt matter. Reactionary conservatism is a small and largely unpopular ideology that is only so represented in our culture and politics because theyāve learned how to game the system.
And I get it. Those are huge problems that are going to take years to address, where, if you know a Gabe, thatās a conversation you could have today. And, if you think you can get through to him, it is worthwhile to try. This is a fight on many fronts and deradicalization is one of them. But it is only one, so please keep it in perspective. It sends an awful message when we spend more time trying to get bigots back on our side than we do the people they are bigoted against.
Your value as a lefty does not hinge on whether you can change Gabeās mind.
Conclusion: How Gabe Gets Out
He may just grow out of it. These communities skew young, and some folks hit a point where hanging with edgy teens doesnāt feel cool anymore.
He may become disillusioned after the movement fails to deliver on its promises.
He may become disillusioned if something goes wrong in his life and his community isnāt there for him, if he feels they like his race and his gender but donāt actually care about him.
He may be shocked if he sees the Alt-Right at its worst before being appropriately conditioned. Charlottesville was a step too far for a lot of people.
His community may turn on him for any perceived unorthodoxy, and he may leave out of necessity.
He may be separated by circumstance from the community - a trip with no internet, hospitalization, arrest - and not be able to top up on the rhetoric. This may lead him to question his beliefs.
His community may disappear, either tearing itself apart or getting shut down by authorities.
He may have incidental contact with populations heās supposed to hate, and have trouble reconciling who they are in person with what heās been told about them. In his community, people bond over shared intolerance, but, suddenly, being tolerant helps him make friends. (This is one reason the Alt-Right has made a battleground of the college campus.)
He may form or revisit relationships outside the network, people who can offer him the connection heās been looking for. This may reintroduce outside perspectives. More importantly, it rekindles his ability to have healthy relationships at all, something the Alt-Right has estranged him from.
As with recruiters, it seems these āescape hatchā relationships can sometimes be parasocial; coming to respect a public figure who is on the Left, or is critical of the Alt-Right.
Someone he is close to may compel him to choose, āme or the movement.ā A lot of young men leave to save a romantic relationship.
Hearing stories from people whoāve already jumped may help; there arenāt a lot of public formers, and some raise suspicions as to their sincerity, but it is getting more common, and may be the closest we get to exit counseling for the Alt-Right.
He may become aware of the ways heās being manipulated, or have them revealed to him, maybe because he stumbled into BreadTube, I dunno. Knowledge that you are being indoctrinated is no guarantee it wonāt work - you are not immune to propaganda - but it can help one resist.
And he may revisit a core belief system that used to guide him, be it religion or social justice or a really wholesome fandom, and be reminded of the identity he used to have.
Moments like these, in isolation or in aggregate, can inspire Gabe to jump. They are also good times for friends to intervene. The reach and the impunity that comes with the internet means it has never been easier to fall into reactionary extremism. It has also never been easier to get out. People who exit skinhead gangs often fear for their lives; for Gabe, thereās a chance getting out is as simple as going to a different website. Much of his community does not know his name or his face and he may not important enough to dox.
What doesnāt get Gabe out - not reliably, not that I have seen - is an argument with a stranger who proves all his facts wrong and his ideology bunk. Facts donāt always work because facts donāt care about his feelings. This was about staying in a community, and holding onto an identity, that mattered to him. It was about belonging, and that is something a rando from the other side of the culture war canāt give him and probably shouldnāt be responsible for.
The theme here is human connection. Before he can do the work of disentangling himself, and facing the guilt of what heās believed and maybe done, he has to know thereās somewhere for him on the other end of it. That the Right hasnāt ruined him. Theyāve told him all of history is groups fighting each other over status, and, without his clan, heāll be an exile. He needs a better story.
I donāt know that lefty spaces are ideal for this, in no small part because bringing someone whoās a bit of a Nazi but working on it into diverse communities isā¦ questionable. And it probably wouldnāt be good for him, either; having just gotten out of a toxic belief system, heās going to be deeply skeptical of all ideologies. In a perfect world, people who care about Gabe could build for him - to use a therapy term - a holding space. Someplace private - physical or digital - where Gabe can work out his feelings, where he is both encouraged and expected to be better but is not, in the moment, judged. That comes later. It is delicate and time-consuming work that should not be done in public, but we find these beliefs, built up over the course of months or years, tend to fall away very quickly with a shift of environment. Change Gabeās surroundings and you change Gabe.
But, instead, a lot of people who jump are functionally deprogramming themselves, which is working for a lot of them, but itās haphazard, and there are recidivists.
If you donāt personally know a Gabe, or have training as a counselor, you may not be in a position to help him. Possibly there are things you can do to disrupt the recruitment process or prevent infiltration of spaces youāre in - Iām looking into it, but talk to your mods - but, elephant in the room: meaningful change will require reform on the part of platform holders. Tools to disrupt this process already exist and are being used on groups like ISIS, but theyāre not being used on the Alt-Right because they try oh so very hard not to get classified as terrorists (and also any functioning anti-radicalization policy would require banning a lot of conservative politicians, so thereās that...).
But what makes our story better than theirs is that the fight for social and economic justice, though it is long, and difficult, and frustrating, when it works, it fulfills the promise the Right canāt keep: it materially make peopleās lives better. I am not prone to sentimentality, or to giving these videos happy endings. But one thing we have that the Alt-Right doesnāt is hope.
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I saw your Sastiel pack and LOVED it! Why does anyone ship Castiel with Dean though, he treats him terribly? Is Dean like that with everyone AKA if I watch SPN will I be constantly wincing in empathy?
Oh wow, thank you so much for this! Suffice it to say, this could become a rather long response, so Iāll make sure to put it under a read more.Ā
Question for you, nonnie: are the Sastiel scene packs the only exposure youāve had to SPN? If youāre thinking of watching it, there is a whole lot more to it, believe me, but let me explain this as best as I can for you. <3
The way you see Dean treating Cas in the scene packs is admittedly only a part of their relationship, but itās the most PREVALENT part. Itās what youāll see happen between them the most. There are moments of friendliness, evenĀ āshippyā moments if you get that vibe.Ā
I used to ship Destiel way back in the s4-s8 era. Initially, my reasons for liking it were that I loved how Cas expressed emotion whenever he spent time around Dean, and the idea of an angel falling in love with a human appealed to me (i.e: Cas FALLING BECAUSE HE FELL IN LOVE). I liked the idea of Dean, a man who didnāt believe in Heaven and angels, finding this one angel and seeing that they can be good. Cas saved Dean from Hell, after all. They were having so many moments together that went from outright hostility on Deanās end to something of a comradeship and a hint of something more. I definitely saw some of the appeal.Ā
However, that appeal was short-sighted and it was heavily influenced by members of the fandom (the pro-Destiel camp that insisted on seeing it literally EVERYWHERE). I was sucked in, incorporated their views as my own, and hadnāt quite decided where I feltĀ āat homeā in the fandom. Especially because when the scene in 4x07 happened and Cas and Sam met for the first time, my first thought was:Ā āOh shit, I could end up shipping this. I already love their dynamic.ā But it was a low-key thought, because bringing up a potential for Sastiel at that time when the fandom was mostly loud Destiel shippers that outright hated Sam, much less the idea of him with DEANāS angel? Youād get torn to shreds, lmao. So I kept those thoughts to myself, having no outlet to talk about them, until I finally came over to the Sam side of the fandom, risking losing friends and followers along the way, and I definitely did. I unfollowed some people that I initially really liked because of how they made Sam fans feel and how they felt about Sam in general.Ā
I really do think the primary reasons for shipping Destiel are that:
A) Brother bias. A lot of the SPN fans Iāve encountered are generally more of Dean fans than Sam. Sam gets so much flack both within and outside of the fandom. So naturally, Dean fans are going to be more invested in dynamics and relationships for him than they are for Sam.
B) Dean and Cas had a lot more moments together very early on, so they had more of aĀ āfoundation.ā I guarantee you that if Sastiel had been given the same amount of screen time early, it likely wouldāve gone a different direction.Ā
C) Casās development - or expansion - of emotions occurred primarily around Dean. The show is very Dean-centered (biased) and you see the show a lot through his eyes. You need to read between the lines and look at it with a different perspective to get Samās, much less anyone elseās. So if youāre fixating on moments where Cas is emotional, you think itās happening because of Dean. But there were many scenes where after talking to Sam, Cas expressed emotion, doubt, and other emotions. Plus, we hadnāt known at the time that Cas had been created with a crack in his chassis, and was already predispositioned to loving humanity and only by meeting Dean (and Sam) was that brought out.Ā
D) The desperation for queer rep. Sadly, there are plenty of Destiel shippers who are straight girls that just want to see two hot men get it on, but there are many people of the LGBTQ+ community that are genuinely looking for good representation. I think the idea of Destiel is something that couldāve worked for rep had it been done right, but it wasnāt. Iām all for more rep, and good rep at that. I consider myself Ace, but still going through it all, so Iām not very involved in the community (although Iām definitely an ally) and I want rep that everyone can feel represents them. What most Destiel shippers donāt seem to get is that people who are LGBTQ+ are not always Destiel shippers and I have plenty of friends who are queer or bi or trans that ship Sastiel or Wincest instead. It comes down less to people who are anti-Destiel being homophobic and more of that some of us just... donāt like abusive relationships, which Destiel definitely falls under.Ā
If you decide to watch the show:Ā
Yes, Dean is very often abusive towards Cas. Heās abusive towards Sam, too as well as Jack. He has anger issues and outbursts that the show loves to sweep under the rug because itās naturally biased towards him. However, early on especially, we are shown that he can still be good, be gentle, and loving at times. The last 10 or so seasons, we kind of lost some of that. I had to go episode by episode in how I felt about Dean. The most important piece of advice I can give you is watch the show for yourself, and donāt let anyone elseās views impact how you see it.Ā
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