#gwuncan slander

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Gwen and Duncan were never in love?

Never in love?

Them?? (Quality sucks, I know. This is what happens when YouTube removes the show 😒)

Are we talking about the same people who risked their reputation on LIVE TV with their large audience and the cast to be together?

Are we talking about the same people who could confide in each other and be vulnerable?

Are we talking about the same people who could bring the best out of each other?

Is that not love?

Wow, so friendly! Definitely a look you would give someone who is just a friend, right?

This too, right? Totally not in love.

Also, another thing, they did not like each other for their aesthetics. They might've started interacting due to being the most similar from the cast but that's all. That does not make a person start a liking.

They hugged each other because they have they're similar, right?

Wrong. In fact, they are not similar. (Gwen's a goth and Duncan's a punk and they do not look similar either because they are not siblings) They have similar interests and their colour scheme is slightly similar. But that's it. They don't have everything in common because they are simply not the same person and they didn't only interact because they have similar aesthetics.

Another argument I have to discuss is the cheating scandal.

Yes, they shouldn't have cheated but it is TOTAL DRAMA. Duncan and Courtney kissing on the bus was solely due to the reason to make Duncan cheat. If the scandal didn't happen, the show wouldn't have gotten to its popularity it had gotten to this day. (It wouldn't completely crumble but it is a big concept on the show as it was hinted from TDA and led all the way to TDAS)

But also yes, they were toxic because cheating is wrong but as I've said in NUMEROUS POSTS, that isn't the only part of their relationship. In fact, when it was just Gwen and Duncan-and not Gwen and Duncan + the show, Courtney, and Trent-they were pretty good. Obviously during that time, they were just friends but they did work. Especially due to the fact that they worked 2 (?) years after TDWT. Obviously, they wouldn't have stayed together if all they thought about was Courtney.

Eugh.

If they didn't love each other, why were they worrying over the other's elimination? (You don't see friends worrying over it)

If they didn't love each other, why were they loyal to the other? (I know Gwen said she liked Alejandro's eyes but that's not cheating though and Duncan stayed loyal when Heather tried to flirt with him)

If they didn't love each other, why would they actually try to understand each other on a deeper level and be there to comfort the other? (They don't just bond over movies, alright?)

"Every time I ran away from the cops, I thought of you."

"And Duncan... he missed... us."

"'But I'm so glad you're here to mock me about it.' 'Me too.'"

TDAS

The worst season ever but that is probably the best season for anti-Gwuncans because they have a reason to hate.

"Duncan only thought about Courtney!" Oh please, you're just sad that your stupid ship was over.

If he really wanted Courtney, he would do what he did in season 1. Why didn't he do that? Please answer the question because he wasn't a loyal person... To Courtney. And yes, I've stated that he was loyal because, he was to the right person. So maybe that's why he didn't try and win Courtney over, right? Oh wait, Gwen and Duncan broke up. Why isn't he trying to win her over now? He was available and I'm sure he wouldn't mind stealing Courtney away from Scott. But did he do that? No.

That is because he did not have feelings for her.

Did you try to think he just wanted attention? Insecure maybe?

Although Courtney was involved, this had nothing to do with underlying feelings for his ex because there weren't any feelings. He just wanted attention because Gwen wasn't giving any.

I read this really good post explaining Duncan and Courtney in an actual psychological perspective. They were describing the issues and explaining the situation and it was really good. If i ever find it again, I'll post it here.

I don't know how to explain this into depth but people do tend to be hung upon trauma. He'd been abused physically, verbally in numerous occasions, felt like nothing, used for money in more than one occasion, abandoned, almost cheated on, and it's not healthy. He also did bad things to Courtney but that was cheating and verbal abuse. He'd also mentioned girl would usually hit him and since he was in a time where he needed attention, he'd been fixated that Courtney would give it to him. She had given before but like he wants to go back to that toxic environment. When he was given attention by Gwen, he didn't feel like it but when he wasn't, I guess it made him feel worthless. That wasn't Gwen's fault though. This paragraph sounds stupid but it's hard to explain in depth.

Also, it seemed like Duncan still liked Gwen as during Sierra's elimination in TDAS, he was asking to make more Gwuncan videos.

This is not Gwen slander because she probably felt ever-so drained by her boyfriend-kisser status, trying to make amends with Courtney, and overall try getting everyone off her back. And thus, forming guilt.

And that guilt was stopping her from having a good time with her boyfriend on the show.

Because on the show, she was definitely thinking about all this stuff.

Actually, when she wasn't thinking about her boyfriend-kisser/Courtney drama, she was quite happy. Like when Duncan was hit with a bobytrap when he was going over to congratulate her or when she was finally forgiven. Because she cleared up her conscious.

But like, Gwen was definitely irritated by everything so when Duncan was doing gestures like blowing a kiss or something, she ignored it.

Their development.

It took them 3 SEASONS to get together. Is that not enough development? Do you need them to delay it by a couple more years or something? 10 years?

But there is also their development from season 1-2. There don't have to interact only on camera. Their friendship could've expanded away from the show. I mean, there was the stargazing scene which was probably the starting point of their little crushes so there would've probably expanded after season 1.

Maybe I am delving too deep as it is a cartoon show but like people are saying they didn't develop properly.

If they didn't develop properly, they wouldn't have been open to the other. And if you're wondering how they were open, I'll list 2 from the top of my head. -Relationships (Gwen confides Duncan about Trent [Canon] and he did to her. [The picture of Courtney under his pillow]) -Family (Gwen told Duncan her brother's guitar. Why would she say that? Because she trusts him [Not about the guitar. Like deeper conversations] and they probably talk about their family.) -Dreams (Duncan knew Gwen's dream car. Maybe they talk about the future and what they want to become and what they want to do with life) -Crimes (They confessed their sins back in TDI and would've spoken about it as Gwen seemed curious about Duncan's crime record from the horror episode) -There is probably more but I can't remember as I haven't watched the show in a while (A couple of months)

You don't talk about these stuff with someone who has similar aesthetics to you. You talk about it with people you trust. They trust each other.

Lack of chemistry.

I disagree because I do believe they have chemistry. Not every relationship's chemistry is yelling at the top of their lungs and then sucking their tongue down the other's throat. It's different and simple.

And just because your prejudice against the ship, doesn't mean it's blocking everyone's perspective.

So if you do see someone who likes Gwuncan, leave them the fuck alone. Stop hating because no one cares, alright? Thank you.

If they're happy with the relationship, it works.

If they're comfortable around each other, it works.

If it's healthy (The good outweigh the bad), it works.

Gwen and Duncan do have a healthy relationship but are surrounded in drama. If they were not, people would like them. But because poor (Not.) Courtney got hurt, everyone hates them. Aw, almost sounds like she got her karma. :)

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I know I've stated a lot of these before and probably sound like a broken recording player or whatever, but I need to restate them because anti-Gwuncan don't even try to explain the problem and just say they're toxic because of the cheating.

I'm not saying Duncney, Gwourtney and Gwent are bad (Actually, I am but if you don't annoy me, I won't say it to you), but like those who slander Gwuncan need to stfu. I'm only making these types of post to compensate for the amount of hate my ship received. (Even though those ships deserved more)

If I see more, my future post is going to be pointing out every flaw in those ships and if you don't that, don't promote Gwuncan hate.

On another note, don't slander or be like 'I like them better as friends.' on a page where the person supports the ship. Like, it gets annoying and they probably might say 'Oh, I respect your opinion.', but that's so they don't start fights because god, you guys are aggressive and extremely rude. (No evidence either)

Good day.

[bloggyblog121]

reminder that gwuncan happened whether or not the writers wanted it or not

[iris19x]

I hope I’m not alone in this, but I honestly really don’t like it when people compare Gwen and Courtney’s physical appearances/attractiveness levels.

There is no denying that the both of them are extremely attractive.

Between them they had at least five guys that were attracted to them. (Six if you count Alejandro but I don’t since it was an act on his part)

Yes, their style choices differ drastically.

But how one of them dresses/looks vs how the other dresses/looks has nothing to do with why one Gwen is a better girlfriend choice for Duncan.

Gwen is a better girlfriend for Duncan, not because of their similar styles, but because she isn’t mean, vindictive, or controlling of him. She lets him be himself. She calls him out when he’s being a jackass, but other then that she isn’t trying to change him.

Courtney is not a good girlfriend for Duncan because nothing he does is good enough, she wants to change everything about him save for his name (and the only reason why us Gwuncan fans say “everything but his name” is because there’s no canon evidence suggesting otherwise) and is overall a mean and nasty person.

And I posted this in the Gwuncan discord group and @purplemys had the best response to it:

“Notice how not even Duncan compared their appearances. He saw them both as really attractive.”

The idiot they both dated didn’t compare their appearances- why the fuck are we?

[alphaclxwn]

feeling a lil silly, idk, might post more tboy court later

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Alright, I'm just going to say this but you need proof. If you're going to say that Duncan never treated Gwen with kindness, then show it.

I could say that too, right?

Trent is abusive. When has he been abusive? Never. The same thing goes for Duncan because he surely did respect her.

Now, let me begin.

'From what I noticed and what was revealed from Fresh TV's social media, Duncan did NOT truly love Gwen for who she was at all.'

Could you elaborate? This seems more like opinions and assumptions.

If Duncan didn't love Gwen, he wouldn't have bothered to be involved in the whole love triangle shit. Like the situation wasn't in his or Gwen's favour and he could've chosen to easier way out which Gwen had even offered him: to go back with Courtney. Did he do that? No. He chose to go through the hate together, with Gwen.

You don't need to say you love someone to love someone. It has to come at the right time but it is shown.

If he didn't love her, he wouldn't worry/care over her however, he did.

Check it out and look at the specific scene I've mentioned.

-He was the first to be worried about Gwen's safety in the horror episode. -In the episode Trent cheated on Gwen, he seemed angry. He did the same thing two seasons later. He flirted with Heather in the same season when he was dating Courtney. -In the camp castaways episode. When Gwen was on the bird with him, he seemed more worried about her. -He was going to get the egg for Gwen -How he told Gwen stuff like the picture of Courtney under his pillow. He doesn't go around to tell that sort of stuff, right? -The guy was steadying her as she was about to fall. You do that to someone you don't care about, am I right? -Trying to console her when she was ranting about Trent and blaming herself for Trent's issues. -Looked worried when he saw Gwen sneeze in the episode she broke up with Trent and also cheering her on. -In the episode she was eliminated in TDA, he wouldn't have defended her from Heather, supporting Gwen's excuse, look worried during the elimination ceremony, try to give himself up for elimination, or stare at her lovingly because he doesn't love her. -The stargazing scene. The way that man looked at her was pure love. -When he was listing facts about her. If he didn't care, he could've just said Idk and faced the consequences. -In the intro he was worried as she was sinking. -Wanting to join her climb over the pyramid. -The way he was staring at her in the I See London episode, "Every time I ran from the cops, I thought of you." Really? That isn't love to you? -How awkward bro got in the Greece episode. He was being vulnerable. You don't see much like that from him because he normally hides it but you see it when he's with Gwen. -Bro the whole Area 51 episode, the big smile, awkwardness, letting her go first, LEG POP, the way he stared at her, the nickname (Pasty is original), him and Gwen wishing each other luck to try not get eliminated. -Not obliging to Heather's flirting, supporting his gf, sad when he realised she might be eliminated. -Still avoiding Heather's flirting (if he didn't love Gwen, he would've allowed Heather's flirting. He did so when he dated Courtney), the carving of Gwen on the chair. -"Ah, Gwen, I'll see you soon!" He says as he's eliminated. -The only one supporting her who's trying to comfort her as everyone is calling her a villain, worried when there was sharks in front of her. -When she got a piece, he's there supporting her and congratulating her. -Saving her from a leech, cheek kiss before he leaves. -Saying he misses her, blowing air kisses, supporting her and encouraging her to continue and she even barfed on him but he never got mad, going up to her to help her. -Asking Sierra to make more Gwuncan videos.

If the show was forced to make Gwuncan and they really despise the ship and made Duncan not love Gwen, why is there so many times where he has shown his love?

I suggest watching the show and the TikTok account because they have very valid points and edits (they're mine).

So now, if you go making stuff up, show proof. That is love.

Drew Nelson (Duncan's voice actor) even said that Duncan only liked Gwen for her similar aesthetics and not for her deep or true attributes.

He did not say that. In fact, Drew Nelson admitted he liked Gwuncan more than Duncney because Courtney was too high maintenance and he likes someone who's chill and like him. You know, someone he feels comfortable around and doesn't feel the need to do so much to impress or satisfy them.

No one is going to be all lovey and sappy around someone who just had same aesthetics. That's stupid and something no one does except maybe the way the ship looks like in your imagination and all the other annoying haters.

In the canon series Duncan purposely abused Trent and said things to Gwen about him that were completely false then cheated on Courtney with her. He also lied to Gwen about Courtney while still having feelings for Courtney.

When did he do that? I don't even remember the time Trent and Duncan ever spoke. Moreover, when did he say that everything about him and Gwen is completely false.

Duncan cheated which is wrong, but he probably cheated because there was no way out of the relationship. His personality, things he likes, looks, the way he spoke was on a list to improve, he was not good enough as the person he was. He would only be a suitable boyfriend if he'd followed the list. He was her personal doll. There could be more that happened. Think about what could happen if he actually listened to Courtney and followed the list. The once happy, and tough guy turned into the male version of Courtney out of fear and hoping to be appreciated. In hopes to make his and her relationship stronger, he's changing himself.

But if you hate on Duncan for cheating, why don't you hate on Courtney? She was about to kiss Justin in front of Duncan in the princess episode in TDA. Why don't you talk about that?

How do you know he still had feelings for Courtney? There is more than one solution.

Now, you're saying he never showed those attributes but I can't be bothered listing it all out so the big list shows, kindness, empathy, loyalty.

Acceptance: They accepted each other, duh. If they didn't, they wouldn't have liked each other. But they did.

Now Gwent:

-Trent made Gwen feel uncomfortable. (Not respectful) -Their communication sucked. (No honesty) -Trent was throwing challenges for her (That's because he thought Gwen wasn't capable of winning on her own or else why would he do that). (No accepting she was capable) -Calling Lindsays beautiful in spite of Gwen. (Not kind) -Kissed back and trusted Gwen's biggest enemy. (No loyalty) -Gwen told Trent's team to vote him off. (No loyalty) -Trent left her buried alive. A little reasonable because he had his own fears. -In the aftermath, Trent had practically turned everyone against Gwen and when she asked for Trent's support, he just looked at her weird. (No empathy) -The guy had some serious issues and like didn't seem stable in season two. (Honesty) -He had some insecurities of Gwen being with a guy which isn't him which caused jealousy too. (Wasn't accepting she had other friends)

I don't really pay attention to Gwent because it's eh but like if I did, I probably would find way more.

So, uh, you're also wrong because I'm sure kissing back to your girlfriend's enemy, making her feel uncomfortable, insecure and jealous when your girlfriend isn't with you isn't something good.

Does those sound like attributes of love to you?

The executives at Teletoon and Cartoon Network might ship Gwuncan, but they gave an extremely horrible and wrong example of romantic relationships. They portrayed deception, manipulation, infidelity, and contempt instead of real romance with the toxic love triangle.

It is called Total DRAMA. The cheating was meant to happen, alright? Obviously there was betrayal but Gwen and Duncan didn't betray, manipulate, infidelity the other. The love triangle was toxic and Gwuncan was toxic but it isn't as toxic compared to other ships.

Gwen and Duncney.

Facts and opinions are different; and I'm glad I know the differences.

Yes, and facts come with proof. Where's yours?

Networks triggered shipping wars by forcing so many unwanted alterations to Total Drama and I'm still wondering why they are continuing to do this.

It is a show for DRAMA. Please think. Not everything is meant to be rainbows and sunshine. That's not how life is and that is also why they decided to not make Duncney and Gwent endgame. Maybe it's entertaining but there are issues to the ship.

Time for debate.

Real love does have flaws but if you're feeling uncomfortable in your relationship, that it not real love. If you're insecure about your relationship, that's not real love. If you can't even communicate properly with your partner, that's not real love. If you're jealous and trying to make your partner jealous, that's not real love. If you think your partner is incapable, that's not real love.

Heck, if you feel insecure about yourself, you shouldn't be in a relationship.

Why do you need Fresh TV to determine everything for you? You've been in this fandom for a decade and debating without proof. I'm not making assumptions because I come with proof. In fact, you're making assumptions and I bet you made another account for Fresh TV and claim it is actually them. That is lame and pathetic because your only excuse to my arguments is that it's assumptions.

It says without proof.

And you're not even specifying where I'm making assumptions.

@gothikaxenon

Uhm, I'm not making assumptions about you. You use the same reasons: psychology, Duncan never showed respect, and Fresh TV. Do you ever back your reasonings up? No you don't.

This thing you posted is not confirmed. The person said I think. They didn't say I know. There's a difference. See, that is an opinion, guess, inference. It is not a fact if they say I think because it might not be 100% true. So, it is not confirmed, nor is it valid evidence. Also, that's the only evidence you've posted.

Oh, but Tom likes Duncney more and was forced to break them up. What is that going to do? Make us like Duncney? Please tell me what that's going to do because Drew Nelson (Duncan's VA) preferred Gwuncan. So did Chris's Va.

Yeah, I'm not saying you're forcing others, I'm saying you're making statements without proof and calling it facts. But when I do it with an analysis, specify when it was made, and make a fact using what was presented and knowledge, you called it opinions and assumptions.

Plus, to this day, you still haven't mentioned when Duncan wasn't respectful, loyal... to Gwen.

@gothikaxenon Yeah, I did see the proof actually, the first one doesn't work. The second one isn't even confirmed, and third one is not even supporting your argument. The reason why it's not your problem is because you are one but doesn't matter. At least I got to prove you wrong in quite literally all your pathetic arguments.

Assuming that you're quite literally losing, I'll take that as a win.

Please use proof next time and if you're trying to fight back, be more specific. Thank you.

Real Facts about the Toxic Love Triangle in Total Drama

I hate it when some Total Drama fans claim their opinions and assumptions about the series are "facts" even though they are NOT! Especially when it comes to the toxic love triangle between Duncan, Courtney, and Gwen.

About the toxic love triangle, it was actually confirmed by Fresh TV's social media that network executives forced the Duncney (Duncan x Courtney) and Gwent (Gwen x Trent) breakups plus the idea to make Gwuncan (Gwen x Duncan) canon even though Tom McGillis was against the networks' ideas.

Tom McGillis revealed that he prefers Duncney over Gwuncan.

From what I noticed and what was revealed from Fresh TV's social media, Duncan did NOT truly love Gwen for who she was at all.

Drew Nelson (Duncan's voice actor) even said that Duncan only liked Gwen for her similar aesthetics and not for her deep or true attributes.

In the canon series Duncan purposely abused Trent and said things to Gwen about him that were completely false then cheated on Courtney with her. He also lied to Gwen about Courtney while still having feelings for Courtney.

Duncan never treated Gwen with kindness, honesty, respect, loyalty, empathy, acceptance, or any other attributes of true love.

Trent on the other hand did display many attributes of true love to Gwen, but networks ruined Gwent's relationship for very stupid and unnecessary reasons. Even Fresh TV's staff confirmed that Trent truly loved Gwen and had good chemistry together.

The executives at Teletoon and Cartoon Network might ship Gwuncan, but they gave an extremely horrible and wrong example of romantic relationships. They portrayed deception, manipulation, infidelity, and contempt instead of real romance with the toxic love triangle.

My statement about the toxic love triangle's portrayal by networks is a valid theory but it hasn't all yet been confirmed. The other parts would be considered facts from behind the scenes info.

Facts and opinions are different; and I'm glad I know the differences.

Networks triggered shipping wars by forcing so many unwanted alterations to Total Drama and I'm still wondering why they are continuing to do this.

[real-total-drama-takes]

dude my ex is on here spreading lies that I’m breaking up with her over gwuncan and that literally isn’t true wtf. No I’m breaking up with you because you actively watch total drama instead of talking with me and now I made a fucking tumblr account jusy to send this on anon because you keep spreading lies about me Sarina. I’m so tired of being ignored because you’re too busy watching total drama island and duncney compilations. And no I do not ship Duncan and Gwen, and I only mentioned Courtney was annoying once. I last watched the show when I was 8 and that’s all I remember about her why take it so seriously??? And about the baby Sarina, why the hell are you getting an abortion now after we already decorated the apartment room for the baby and I already bought all that shit for it!!! Sarina I’m not mad at you because you ship duncney or something I’m mad ay you because you refuse to communicate and talk to me because you’re busy sending hot takes to this blog or whatever. So fine get the abortion, because I’m not paying for it and you’ve already wasted all your money on baby supplies. And I was so happy to raise a family with you too, and you slander me to strangers on the internet? FUCK YOU.

[xwhatababex]

im not just a gw*nc*n hater, im the gw*nc*n hater. bow down.

[bloggyblog121]

Listing arguments I hate hearing as a Gwuncan stan

They look like siblings-No. They do not. They're similar in the things they like (Which 2 things were only presented). It's extremely concerning you're saying that to a canon couple who kissed. Numerous times. Talk about weirdos.

Anyways, learn the difference. And I'm assuming that the people who made those stupid claims either have no siblings or is 6-years-old/

So, me being the generous person I am, I decided to highlight. Because as siblings, there must be some similarities in looks, right? -The hair. Duncan has straight (like his father) and Gwen's is more bushy as shown in the picture. -Eye colour. Duncan's is blue/teal and Gwen's is black. -Nose. I know I'm talking about their nose but if you say they look like siblings, I might as well start pointing out their facial features. Their noses are different. -Proportions. Duncan has an extremely larger torso while Gwen doesn't. -Skin colours. Completely different colours. -Eyebrows. Duncan has a unibrow and Gwen's is triangular-shaped (I'm assuming she filled them in or something). -Their styles. He's punk and she's goth. They're not the same and never will be. If this is your argument, reconsider. It's disgusting and repugnant to say this about a couple willingly.

+Aleheather was similar but you don't see them receiving hate. Those goth couples were practically the same person. Why aren'y they receiving hate?

Double standards, much?

The never loved each other- Buddy.. You don't need to say the words to prove love. Especially if they were in the situation they were in.

To further elaborate, they trust each other. Vulnerability. A key part of a relationship. -Sins (In season 1) -Family (Gwen told Duncan her brother's guitar. The family topic could've surely been delved deeper throughout the series) -Relationships (Gwen knows about the picture of Courtney under Duncan's pillow. Gwen confides in Duncan about Trent.) -Dreams (Gwen told Duncan her dream car. She doesn't just go around telling 'Oh I want a Mustang...') These were hinted. Imagine if we could see the rest of their discussions. Next. Gwen gave Duncan a free exit in the Area 51 episode. She told him he can go back to Courtney if he wants to avoid the drama. Does he go back with her? No. he cuts Gwen off by kissing her and even pops his leg out. Those little parts where they're consoling each other. -In their song Gwen was trying to comfort Duncan. -Duncan when trying to make Gwen feel better in the beach episode in TDA. -In the first episode of TDAS and Gwen was shocked at being a villain, Duncan helps her up and is trying to help her. They worry about each other. -In the horror episode, Duncan was the first one worried about Gwen. -When Gwen was about to trip, Duncan's there to help. -In the episode Gwen was about to get eliminated, Duncan was risking himself to take Gwen's place and even supporting her. -In the Greece episode, Gwen was talking about Duncan and then realising that his team was in the elimination ceremony, she rushed there. There even was that little cheer of hers. -In that same episode, Chris makes a joke if Duncan even made it out alive and Gwen was like the most worried about Duncan. -In the Area 51 episode Gwen was like 'try not get eliminated' and Duncan was like 'you too.'. Later in the day, Gwen was sneaking into the elimination ceremony again to make sure Duncan wasn't eliminated. -The following episode, when Gwen's team lost, Duncan looked worried about her and uttering a tiny 'aw crud'. -In TDAS and Gwen was faced by sharks, you could see that small moment of Duncan being worried over her. Loyalty. Duncan stopped flirting with Heather when he was dating Gwen. But the best part is that they were happy. So fucking happy that no one could be happy for them. They had the biggest haters. But that didn't stop them from pursuing their relationship. Acceptance. They accepted the others' aspects. Neither were trying to change the other because they loved the other for it. You want to know how I know this, because they spent more time getting to know each other and 'boring' rather than arguing and being incredibly inconsistent. There's probably more I can't remember. So, I'll move on.

Their development-

That is what development means. As in how their relationship was formed. As in from strangers. As in from season 1 where it took 3 seasons to get together.

What the fuck do you mean they spawned out of nowhere?

They went from strangers to acquaintances to friends to best friends to something more.

It wasn't rushed. Because if that was the case, you don't see me complaining about Duncney. They kissed on the 13th episode on the first season. That was just a couple weeks and the only thing they knew about each other was the bare minimum. That's why they were so incompatible. Their development was sucked ass.

Or Gwent. They started liking each other at first sight. They got to know each other but their writing was so inconsistent. There were so many times Gwen forgave Trent but a couple episodes later, she was mad at him for the same reason. Their development sucked ass as well.

Meanwhile, Gwen and Duncan had waited 3 seasons. That's practically over a year of getting to know each other (depending if Courtney hadn't guarded Duncan's every move after TDA). 52 weeks. That gives them plenty of time to figure out how the other person is. Gives them time to like their faults.

Why is that so hard to understand?

It wasn't random.

It was friendship. Friendship you wouldn't be complaining about if poor, innocent (Absolutely not) Trent and Courtney weren't heartbreaking.

News flash. This is life. This is how relationships go. How toxic relationships go, alright? Don't downplay other relationships because the one you supported sucked. Get over it because your reasoning doesn't make sense.

Their characters were ruined in TDAS- Everyones' was. It wasn't ruined, it was a realistic approach to how they dealt with hate for two years.

Gwen dealt with it worse. Boyfriend kisser? Death threats? Everyone not trusting her? Why do you think she acted like that?

It wasn't random. Her ignoring Duncan wasn't because she lost feelings for him. She was sick of the hate. In the first episode, you could see her confiding in Duncan (which he did a terrible job in for some apparent reason).

Honestly, it was relatable experience. (Coming from experience. Not relationship or what not but like having people hate your guts and teaming up against you)

Then there was Duncan. The guy did not like Courtney.

I'm not sure how many people have to say this but he did not like Courtney. It's so annoying to hear you fans being like 'aw he liked Courtney. Duncney forever!'.

More like Duncney never.

The guy wasn't himself that season. Everyone was humiliating him for being nice. (Which was a good thing. Good development because of Gwen) + the fact that Gwen wasn't paying attention to him and he lost it. He wanted attention.

In fact, you could see him in the confessions shocked at his realisation that Gwen broke up with him for being nice.

HE SAID MAKE MORE GWUNCAN VIDEOS WHEN THEY BROKE UP.

And you're saying he lost feelings.

He cheated on Courtney- Yes. Duncan did. Numerous times so why point out the one time it was because two friends realised they loved each other?

But he wasn't the only culprit. Courtney also was going to cheat. She was about to kiss Justin in front of her boyfriend.

Neither of the two are victims.

But yes, I get it, they cheated but the relationship with Duncan and Courtney was doomed from the start.

Gwen hate is not tolerated ❌❌

Even if you hate the ship because they cheated but it is quite hypocritical if you hate on another character who kissed someone else while in a relationship. I'll list some people you guys should hate if you hate Gwuncan. -Bridgette and Alejandro (Bridgette cheated on Geoff and kissed Alejandro) -Geoff and Heather (Geoff called Heather the hottest girl in the show in front of Bridgette) -Lindsay and Justin (In TDA, she would allow Justin's flirting and gush over him while having a boyfriend, Tyler) -Lindsay and Alejandro (Same thing but in TDWT and she did this in front of Tyler but with Alejandro) -Lindsay and Trent (Buddy was laying on his lap in TDI and Trent was allowing her and calling her beautiful in front of his girlfriend, Gwen) -Trent and Heather (Trent kissed back to Heather when he was dating Gwen) -Beth and Justin (She had a boyfriend and openly admitted that Justin was better than Brady, and allowed his flirting and flirted back) -Duncan and Heather (Duncan flirted with Heather numerous times in TDI and TDA while dating Courtney) -Courtney and Justin (Courtney was about to kiss Justin willingly in front of her boyfriend, Duncan) -Beth and Harold (Beth kissed Harold while dating Brady) -Leshawna and Harold (She was dating Harold (?) and allowing flirting from Justin and Alejandro) So, I've listed quite a few here and obviously these are the more popular characters like Heather, Alejandro, Justin, Courtney, which barely anyone despise. But a lot of people who like those characters hate Gwen for stealing Courtney's boyfriend.

I just want to state that every couple has a different story. Not every couple is going to be formed from cheating or get back together after cheating hence, why no one likes talking about it. As well as the fact that you guys are the biggest hypocrites.

I will say it, I'm justifying for Duncan's cheating. You wanna know why? Because I'm not to admit the fault in his relationship with Courtney.

He was scared of Courtney

She was always in charge and he never got a say because normally that would end up in him getting kicked in the kiwis.

Don't believe me?

"... Just don't tell Courtney I said that." He stated in the confessions in TDA. This was the Top Dog episode or something. He was scared of her and had no way out. So, he voted her out thinking their relationship was over for good.

No. Once he won the money she happily ran over to him and kissed him so they could 'share' their money. Manipulation, gold digging.

Also, there were many times when Gwen was saying they weren't together when they kissed. Have you thought about that maybe Duncan and Courtney broke-up? More typically before Duncan left. Because Duncan was surely not interested in Courtney in TDWT and Gwen and Duncan have a bond. I guess Courtney took that as a joke.

But obviously people don't listen and she gave up trying to tell that they weren't even together.

If that didn't happen, it's because it's meant to be DRAMA. Okay? Stop hating bc it's pathetic hearing your complaints.

Duncan still loved Courtney- No. He never loved her.

He loved how angry she could get. That was what turned him on. If that's what you call love then you've clearly never been in a relationship because that shouldn't be the reason why you love them.

The guy seemed to genuinely like her in 3 scenes. Other than that, it was over her looks and her anger. Not love.

In TDAS, he didn't love her either.

He wanted attention. That's it. It's canon because I fucking said so.

Also because you've seen how he flirted with Courtney for two seasons (Frankly, too much Duncney 🤮). He's the same person. He could've still flirted with her. Especially since him and Gwen broke-up. That doesn't add up, huh?

He doesn't care about Courtney and Scott's relationship.

Attention. That's the only valid reason because he was definitely going through something and no one was paying attention. If they were, it was about how nice he was. He wanted to be a bad boy, not nice.

Guess who he thought would pay attention to him? Courtney.

Because she's like the loudest person ever and surely would punch him or something. This time, that wasn't the case and it would've made him want it more. It wasn't love, it was desire for attention.

And that triggered Gwen because she was focussed on one task. Make amends with Courtney.

And that was the end of Gwuncan.

Did Gwen lose feelings? I hope not but she was really focussed on winning her friend back that she forgot about her boyfriend.

Did Duncan lose feelings? No. He was confused asf about the break-up and seemed really downhearted in that one confession scene. That was to Gwen. Not Courtney.

It is boring- Says mfs who prefer Duncney and Gwent.

Here's Duncney's cycle: Duncan says something, Courtney gets really annoyed, Duncan gets turned on, they make-out, they argue (and Courtney hits Duncan), repeat. Here's Gwent's cycle: They look at each other and blush, Trent does something bad, Gwen is mad at him, she forgives him, later she is mad at him again, Trent does something again, and repeat.

This went on for a whole season for those couples and you're calling Gwuncan boring. Ykw, whatever. Everyone has an opinion but slandering a ship because it is too bland in outrageous. Just say you don't like it. Stfu.

You're just mad that the ppl of your ship weren't happy for the majority of their relationship. Deal with it.

Gwuncan were happy.

I've already explained TDAS situation so I won't delve into that again.

Also, that is a subjective reason to hate and slander a ship. Not everyone thinks that. That's literally 5th grader type of behaviour of the people who use this to make it seem like Duncney and Gwent are superior. They're not. It's called opinions.

Do you want the writers to hold your hand while you tell them that you don't like Gwuncan because it is too boring? You're not the only person watching the show and definitely not entitled to the show.

They're too similar- Absolutely not.

Rewatch the show if you think that. They're just not polar opposites.

No chemistry- Not every couple is yelling or sucking their tongues deep into the others' throats.

You're acting like they're standing there and like: "Hey, you're goth. Date me." "Ok." Buddy no. They did have chemistry. Their chemistry was just being there for each other. Being comfortable. No pressure, no planning, no pookums.

It's refreshing. Not overstimulating as they could be themselves around each other.

Their chemistry was built up. It wasn't like love at first sight like whatever Gwent was.

There isn't a rule book specifying what specific acts you have to do to 'have chemistry'. It's different. Not everyones' is the same and that's the thing about love. It's unique.

Only done for plot- If that was the case, they would've done like how they made Trent and Heather kiss. No build up or anything needed. (Because we already know Courtney overreacts a lot)

So, why did they build the couple up? Enlighten me.

The ship was definitely used for plot but their connection wouldn't have been like they were if it was only used for the plot.

They ruined the others' former relationship- You can't ruin a relationship when it was already ruined.

I'll start off with Gwent.

In the beach episode, Trent had started acting weird. (9 obsessions and Gwen obsession)

While Gwen was worrying about Trent, Duncan suggested a solution for the 9 thing. He wasn't manipulating or forcing her to believe him or trying to wreck the relationship. He was making a possible solution.

Even Harold was as he backed Duncan up that Trent had been acting like this after he figured Gwen liked Trent.

Where is Harold's hate? Harold was helping as well. But noo, Duncan, the big bad guy is the reason why they broke up. He wanted Gwen all to himself, right?

No. It was a solution which seemed reasonable. It was backed up by Harold and Trent's weirdness around Gwen. It wasn't to ruin it.

You know why this happened, because neither of the two could communicate. Guess where that led them? Breaking up.

Now Duncney.

I really don't understand what you guys mean that Duncney was ruined by Gwen because it was ruined the second Duncan had wandering eyes for other people. (Heather and Gwen)

The cheating (Which may or may not actually have been cheating) was just a way to finally end the couple.

Gwen didn't ruin it when Duncan wasn't even interested in the relationship. He was done with Courtney.

The only reason they got back together in Celebrity Manhunt was for the plot.

I feel like I'm justifying the cheating and I'm not but I also am. This was karma. Courtney's karma for the way she treated Duncan in TDA and TDI. Duncan's karma always returned to him but being beat up by Courtney throughout the seasons.

Mb. I didn't realise how much I've typed. Though, I'm sure there's more arguments but I can't really remember. Tell me if I've missed any.

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DAILY REMINDER TO THE PPL WHO HATE GWUNCAN THAT GWUNCAN WAS THE ONLY SHIP WHERE NEITHER OF THE PARTNERS CHEATED/FLIRTED WITH OTHER PPL

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Should I call it Duncney in a nutshell? Or maybe Duncney being dislikable? (Those who get it, get it)

Next will be Gwuncan. (Not slander)

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So, I was thinking. Since Duncney and Gwent fans like to call Gwuncan siblings coded and they look the same, why don't we do the same?

We can say Duncney and Gwent are step-sibling coded (Not the normal ones. The weird ones [Pls don't tell me I was the only one who saw that TikTok])

I bet there's gonna be a bunch of angry Gwent and Duncney fans asking how but this is the same logic they used when they called Gwuncan 'sibling-coded'. It doesn't make sense.

I know it sounds weird but this whole sibling thing is weird. Especially to a CANON FUCKING COUPLE.

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Mod Courtney, how do you think the actual Courtney would moderate this blog?

She would delete any asks that criticized her and keep reblogging takes about gwen/Duncan/gwuncan slander