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is anyone going to tell the kat@angers that it's not feminist activism to argue Katara's arc in LOK is fine on the grounds that "some women want to be homemakers and that's okay!!"
Like you're not helping real women that way. In fact, most antis for the cannon ship ARE women. Many are homemakers themselves.
Katara is not a real woman. She is a fictional woman written by men.
Can the sensibilities and wishes of a girl change by the time she is a adult? Yes!
But as this is a textual character who, as per the text, rejects the societal structure of her fictional world (which mirrors our own) that women are and can only ever be docile homemakers (i.e. I don't want to heal, I want to fight; I will never turn my back on people who need me; let's start a prison riot; let's engage in vigilante ecoterrorism; let's pitch an absolute fit because the boys are not pulling their fair weight in the homemaking; let's confront my mother's killer at the absolute rejection and condemnation of the male figures whom I am to respect; etc) it is perfectly reasonable to argue that this end was not a natural course for her character.
Fictional characters are not real people. This means that they do not change their mind off screen. That is not an acceptable argument. That is called a "plot hole", which is a nonsensical change made at the convenience and contrivance of the writer(s), who in this case are men exhibited to not care for women or girls all that much. It is within THEIR character to write this way.
Regardless of who, if anyone, Katara ended up with, Katara tolerating disrespect, neglect, abuse of her children, giving up all of her former aspirations to live in the shadow of men, and dying as a mere footnote in history (and being alright with it!!) is not surprising given the absolute vitriol Bryke has shown toward female fans of their "creation". It was supposed to be a "boy" show. It was always supposed to be a "boy" show. The creators of Supernatural and Game of Thrones did the same thing. ATLA just did it first.
Arguing "not all women" is not activism in the face of what is really happening in this discourse. Sending death threats to real, actual women with feelings in defense of a fake pretend woman's fake pretend autonomy is performative activism, and worse, hypocritical.
Not all women agree with you. Not all women feel represented and find the outcome of Katara's story satisfactory. If y'all care about feminism and respecting women's choices so much, lay off the real life women you're so fond of harassing. Our views and opinions, while opposing your own, don't affect you.
#i know we've all told them but yall im tired#antikataang#anti kataang#its tagged but the people who this is targeted for will see it#folks perusing the zutara tag for hate purposes#yall are weird#guess who has never set foot in the kata@ng tag#its me <3#zutara#antibryke#anti bryke#bryke critical
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i drew a second outfit design for sumi wayyyy back so now i've decided to redraw it and make it better! and also, i chopped her hair off! now THATS what i call character development
#persona 5 royal#persona 5#p5r#sumire yoshizawa#kasumi yoshizawa#p5r spoilers ? i guess#i'm so happy w how i drew her i think she's so cute#i love you sumire#they could never make me hate you#i think she chopped off her hair at some point during 3rd sem before she properly awakened to her persona n her outfit changed#bcuz then she wouldn't really have to see kasumi everytime she looked in the mirror#she could then just see sumire or who she thinks sumire is supposed to be#p5r did her dirty and i will never shut up abt it#and abt how they just made her revert back to her kasumi state#also!! made the design somewhat magical girl inspired!#bcuz of her first awakening sequence!
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ship so good it makes me interested in omegaverse bc tell me why I now want to write omega Ratio who’s pretending to be a beta but gets found out by alpha Aventurine 😭😭
#Sighs and adds to never ending pile of wips and ideas#You may see this one day who knows#I’m still working on the other one#almost done w it#Aventio#ratiorine#my omegaverse will have very different rules tho bc I hate the borderline rapey shit and new horrid gender roles#However humans w animalistic traits and uncontrollable behaviors is interesting so I’m keeping that#We shall see or I guess you shall haha
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I think not a lot of people talk about AM's self-esteem issues and self-destructive tendencies and it makes me sad.
#Ted mentioned AM destroyed parts of himself to look 'perfect'#yet Gorrister also mentions he 'let himself go' over the years#Ted is an unreliable narrator and AM never mentions the reason why he does that.#it could be something mentioned to the survivors before the novel or a half-assed guess from Ted's part#i think it's the latter#i think he sometimes tried to desperately see if he can feel pain#maybe he wants to distract himself from his inner turmoil by destroying sonething. Since his complex is what's nearest. he wrecks himself#or maybe at that point he realized a lot of his servers didn't have a use anymore so he would wreck them#Gorrister's line would make more sense that way because that would imply that after so many years#he does not care about himself as much. At that point his envy is want is so deep-rooted that his ACTUAL form isn't that much of a priority-#to him. He loses himself to his own hate that he loses the sense of self-preservation#but i'm just yapping who knows lol#ihnmaims#am#am ihnmaims#i have no mouth and i must scream
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this is probably an unpopular opinion with the amount of "everyone is married with kids" type future aus people make for sonic characters but i cannot see sonic getting married or having a kid ever. if he did somehow end up with a kid hed be the worlds first transmasc absent father or however the joke goes
#i can only see sonic with a kid if its some random kid he accidentally adopted or whatever#and if he had a partner whatever they have going on probably wouldnt fit the typical idea of how having a partner works at all#i dont think sonic is a very romantic guy to be honest. and being in a serious relationship or ''settling down'' wouldnt be for him#i guess you could argue his feelings towards that sort of stuff could change once hes an adult#but i kinda. dont like. the idea of him suddenly becoming interested in romance and wanting to settle down#as a sign hes ''finally grown up'' or whatever. because lack of interest in romance isnt an immature trait you have to grow out of#some people never want that sort of thing and thats fine#anyway i dont hate fankids to be clear i think theyre fun in concept . like from a design standpoint#taking traits from characters you like to make a new guy out of it is fun#i just cannot imagine those things ever actually happening does that make sense#actually while im at it i dont think rouge would want kids at all either . people want her to be motherly so bad but she just is not#she is the cool older sister figure who teaches you how to steal from the pin container at hot topic without getting caught. not a mom
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What makes you think that Arthur is a person of color? :0 just curious.
gladly.
so, at first, i thought it was me projecting but i think the first clue i got was eddie. yall might think i’m being dramatic but eddie was…suspicious from the get-go. in a normal situation like this, there’s actually 0% chance that it turns out the way it did for arthur.
but that’s beside the point. eddie knocks on the door and receives an unhurried response. he walks away to do.. whatever it is he was doing. arthur comes to the door, opens it, looks around and picks up some trash, muttering to himself. suddenly eddie has urgent business inside the office with a. flimsy excuse at best. strike one.
we, as the audience, know that arthur is being shifty because he’s just killed a man. eddie has been told, quite convincingly, that arthur was moving… boxes or something (im looking at the transcript, arthur just says ‘not furniture’ so…). and that arthur is working with sensitive documents. not sure if you know this but private detectives have to work with proper authorities to be allowed to operate legally. that means they work with the police and the courts. when a PI says a document is sensitive, they mean legally. they mean eyes only. they mean ‘come back later or i could lose my fucking license because you got the wrong look at classified documents.’ a building manager, especially their building manager, should know that. strike two.
he also asks for arthur’s partner, peter yang (who is, i can only assume, an east asian man). i should hope that i dont have to remind you that this is massachusetts in the 30’s we’re talking about, and what that means logically. but i will. america hated asian people the most they ever did until COVID in the 30s through the 60s. the only people they hated more were black and brown people. no matter how shifty and suspicious arthur was acting, eddie would’ve been… let’s just say ‘incredibly unlikely’ to ask for peter instead of the white man. strike three
there’s some little bits about subvocals and tone that i could say, but it’d be a lot and i don’t fully understand it enough to explain well why eddie set off alarms for me. because i dont have to. it takes 5 minutes (from 11:48-16:09 on spotify, so nearly exactly) for eddie to go from inconvenient, to annoying, to suspicious, to violent. and he ends the conversation with a very real threat of violence that essentially boils down to ‘don’t come back to the building again.’ eddie is a maintenance man. he did not have the power to evict anyone. unless, of course, they were a poc. so why was arthur worried about eddie when sneaking back into the building?
but, like i said, i thought i was projecting. projection and being-on-the-lam can easily explain arthur’s hesitance when delivering the baby and asking for a ride. or the gunshop in part 6. but the lighthouse? no, what really solidified it for me was the end of part 8.

here’s what officer collin knows so far: a visibly disabled man has stumbled, confused and upset, away from a lighthouse and a body that CANNOT have been killed by a human; and it is dark outside. that’s it. using this knowledge, he then proceeds to beat said man. brutally. repeatedly.
in part 9 they learn he is blind and when that timid little fucker (mitchell) expresses doubt, collin says this

this is something we like to call coerced confession. arthur did not kill that man (the lighthouse keeper). officer collin knows that arthur didn’t kill that man. (dont play, he knows.) but because it is convenient to say that he did, they’ll threaten and torture him until he says that he did.
now, friends, i’m not going to lie to your face and say that white folk are safe from the cops, youre not, i know. but what im also not going to do is pretend like there os any world in which this happens and arthur is visibly white. not in the thirties, not in america. despite being forgotten or unmentioned they are in the midst of the great depression, the exact last thing these small-town cops need is the arrest of a blind white man on their hands. regardless, i have never ever heard of a cop speaking this way to a white person unprovoked. i, on the other hand, have been spoken to this way myself.
this is already quite long and it doesn’t even cover the sheer magnitude of people who feel comfortable calling arthur (at his grown ass age of visibly-an-adult) ‘boy.’ or the wicked and downright racist way that larson says it, (genuinely. it sounds like he’s a middle school boy who discovered the word ‘fagg*t’ for the first time the way he says it. i couldn’t tell you how many times that word (boy) drove an ice pick through my fucking skull this season.) but i hope you can at least get the picture.
original post is here
#i know that this is only two reasons#but im serious#i was convinced by part 8#every ‘boy’ and vague microagression since has only been another nail in the coffin for me#if you need more examples#im going to do a re-listen of it all soon and ill keep track like i did john’s ‘fuck’ count#i also had like four people ask me on my original post so ill tag then in the comments ig#malevolent podcast#arthur malevolent#john malevolent#i hate these dumb gays#anelleoriginal#askellie#i never know what to do when i get the same question more than once#like#how do i reblog my post and answer this ask at the same time so everyone who asked can see?#who knows?#not me#poc arthur lester#i guess it’s more useful/accurate to say that everyone *else* is written like arthur is a poc
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@projectmoonlightproductions dude that line you wrote, “forcing yourself to live to prove that you deserve your sentience” in relation to gingerbrave? has stuck with me for DAYS. In the best way, but still.
Gingerbrave does love living in the real world, and having friends and jellies and sunlight and snow and being surrounded by a living, breathing warren, but I feel like she wouldn’t truly be able to ENJOY or otherwise be comfortable in it for a long time because living, like almost everything else important to her so far, is a duty. It’s a duty because not only does he know that he was made to be eaten, but that she was one of a group.
For me, part of the horror of Gingerbrave’s situation is that he wasn’t (at least superficially) special. Her ENTIRE KIND was made to be prey. Her entire species is subjugated and rendered carnage for no reason other than the vices and cruelties imposed on them by a godly figure.
I feel like Gingerbrave would know on a certain level, in a certain part of his brain, that those cookies in that oven and on those plates were meant to be living, breathing kids. Kids like him. Kids that should be playing animal jam and going to school and eating slightly freezer-burnt chicken tenders and singing and laughing and running and living. What makes Gingerbrave different from all the cookies left behind on that oven tray?
I’m imagining gingerbrave, once they’re leading a “normal” life, throwing herself into everything. Trying to be the best and happiest and experience everything, with the underlying message in her brain playing “you need to live for them. They never got and never will get this; if you waste this chance in any way, you’re letting down every single one of those killed children.”
before he can get to the “living as a rebellion” mindset which is like. Infinitely more healthy in the long term, gingerbrave needs to get over the “living as a duty” thing I gave her. Btw he’s like, 12-is at this point in my personal timeline lolz. Womp womp. But uhhhh yeah!
#Kinda projected on gingerbrave a TINY bit maybe. Perhaps.#Being disabled and POC queer and trans in a US territory right now has been such a weird experience for me.#Cuz like#im generally safe. I can be all of these things and not be scared of like. Getting subjugated or discriminated against or killed#But I’m watching the mainland from the outside#I’m seeing these new policies and agendas and trump administration and everything#And I’m so scared everyday for people like me that are stuck in the states and living under this fear#Fear that you will be hated or harmed or fuck even KILLED#that you can’t play your favorite sports or dress how you like or got to school safely#Just#yeah. I’m probably being a bit dramatic#and Gingerbrave’s situation is MUCH different than this one. It’s obviously not the same#But the feeling of needing to live as queer or trans or any other group because there are people just like you who will never get to#Live as freely and unabashedly as you have the chance to#Yeah that’s kinda wha5 I’m trying to explore with gingerbrave I guess#really sorry for the tag vomit lol please just ignore this if you’re not up to it#cookie run ovenbreak#gingerbrave#crob#art#my art#cookie run#cookie run kingdom#crk
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it’s truly what warhammer is missing the most re: primarchs. it’s boring if they all like each other, and it’s boring if they all hate each other; there should be an extremely complicated system of primarch relationships in which at least two of them fucking hate each other but sometimes have to tolerate each other because they all have a bestie in common
#astartes should be keeping relationship flowcharts in their quarters so they can be appropriately bitchy to the right legions when they#next are on campaign together because that legion is mutuals with someone their primarch cant sttttand#enough of perturabo has no friends. perturabo and the lion are beeeesties. mostly bc perturabo says purposefully needling things at him#and lion’el jonson just. does not notice. but lion’el jonson and rogal dorn should get on decently via an autism to autism communication#wavelength. and guilliman & rogal dorn should be administration besties. but guilliman and the lion should hate each other#we are looking at potentially the funniest 'our legions are fighting a campaign together so i guess we have to meet up and have dinner#together for morale :/' meet-ups imaginable#please. we can elevate the horus heresy. just let someone who has worked in the worst inter-office drama imaginable write it#ferrus manus should noooot like horus at all but like. puts on the most blank expression imaginable when fulgrim talks about him bc#one time he criticised him even just a little bit and fulgrim didn't speak to him for weeks.#fulgrim & sanguinius should NOOT like each other. who is that other dog in the mirror#i dont care whats canon. im rewriting this in my head.#in my deepest imagination lorgar and angron are friends so long as they literally never talk about the emperor. like i actually think it#would be an interesting relationship if they both liked one another EXCEPT for that one big thing thats the biggest thing in both their#lives. & idk. angron if he was given more characterisation could be friends with sanguinius i think. sanguinius literally dealing with#murderous ragebeasts all the time as a given anyway. but lorgar fucking HATES sanguinius having angel theming so bad cos hes soooo jealous#oh. and furthermore: Luther likes everyone that the lion hates (guilliman) but hates everyone he likes (perturabo) and its truly#like from the lion's pov having ur dad disapprove of ur best friends and want u to hang out with his friend's kid who's totally lame.#luther's pov: my brotherson won't hang out with the normal kids only the kids who give each other piercings at parties and huff aerosols#its 4am so u can see why im spiralling but. idk. the primarch relationships are so underutilised imo
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Me: I joke about writing the same McCoy centric story over and over again in different ways
Me: and like. I love doing it and imma keep doing it because it makes me happy.
Me: but also. I do sometimes wonder if it's like. A little Much.
Me: like maybe I should branch out or something
Me: [reads another fundamental and extremely insulting misread of McCoy's character by someone who is clearly making a Choice to cast McCoy as the villain, because they have to get him out of the way of spirk, because they're too???? idk immature??? to realize that even when you're in a relationship with one person, other ppl can and SHOULD still be important to you]
Me: lmao I hope I AM too much actually!!!! I hope it is 100% obnoxious how much I love that doctor!!!!! Time to write more versions of the same story of McCoy being forced to realize that he is loved and cared for!!!!!!
Me: I KNOW MY NICHE AND IMMA DIE IN THAT NICHE, THANKS
#mine#not putting this in the mcc*y/tr*k tags bc i am venting not trying to start 💾🐎 [discourse]#but woof. WOOF. i want you to know that if you hate the doc then sp*ck and k*rk would hate YOU#like seeing someone say they're sp*ck or jim coded and then say flagrantly absurd things about mcc*y.......u are garbage coded actually.#sp*ck and k*rk would literally never#i will never understand how so many ppl can ship mcc*y’s besties and then???? hate on mcc*y?????????#i block LIBERALLY so i have a lot of b*nes haters blocked already tbf#i just stumble across one in the wild sometimes alas#that mindset btw is how that counseling fic came about lmao - we were talking about how if sp*rk dated they'd still drag mcc*y EVERYWHERE#romantic or platonic he is THEIRS just like they're HIS. it's a triumvir*te my guy#any two of them hook up they're still making the third stay at their side 24/7 lolllllll#how can you claim to love sp*ck and k*rk and so fundamentally misunderstand them and their relationship with b*nes#genuinely tragique#you are missing out on so much fun#we are not watching the same show lmao <3 leave my doctor alone <3 leave his bfs alone too <3#me: i should let things go / sp*ck: have you instead considered being a petty bitch / me: what / sp*ck: they can get fucked and die mad 🖖#me: ur so right sp*ck / sp*ck: i usually am#guess who literally just found out that if the word is contained w/in a longer tag it now shows up if you search that word!!!!!#that change very well may not be recent but i just found out!!!! anyway. asterisks added.#i give up. tumblr keeps putting this in the fucjing tags. hellsite (full of hatred)#eta: didn't think to make this non-rebloggable earlier but now it is lmao. it's just a vent post y'all <3
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Overhated Female Character x Underused Female Character [Patreon | Commissions]
#If I see any Pulaski hate on this post I'm gonna lose it#Selar#Pulaski#Doctor Selar#Doctor Pulaski#been watching tng and I really don't know why people hate pulaski so much#just watched an episode where she was like 'I hate this dude...Data!!! Kick his ass in space 3d chess!!!' and I laughed#unless there's an episode I haven't gotten to yet where she like sends Data to the electric chair I do nooot understand#but I mean people wanted T'Pring dead for not wanting to marry Spock so you know#to me Pulaski is much more interesting than Beverely - she has a certain energy to her that I like#watched an episode the other day where she fought tooth & nail to do something dangerous and when it turned out she was wrong she accepted#it and was like 'ok. I guess I'm dying now. I knew the risks v_v' and I liked her right away (first episode I saw her in)#anyway yuri between two women who never interact in canon save me#tng#star trek tng
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okay so i'm actually waiting for my dad to watch arcane so i have to wait a couple days (also had to stop mid episode 4) and i see everyone hating on jayce including friends and you know what
(my theory is that he killed viktor (only reason everyone would hate him that much) and for the record he's one of my favorite character with vi and ekko)
I WILL SUPPORT HIM NO MATTER WHAT, HE PROBABLY HAD HIS REASONS AND EVEN IF IT'S TRUE AND IF THAT WILL MAKE ME CRY I DO THINK HE NEVER DID ANYTHING WITH VILE INTENTIONS OKAY HE IS A GOOD MAN
(also kinda suck that caitvi don't have any content but at least i can't be spoiled, a win is a win i guess)
#jayce thalis#i'm his biggest supporter and he's not even my favorite character lmao#but the more his life falls apart the hotter he gets too and i don't want to have a crush on him#caitvi#jayvik#i guess?#i did see some pics of viktor and sky lol#a new ship to feed into#skyvik#love this#at least she's not a woman in the fridge anymore?#(i do think the hexcore was using his guilt at the end of episode 3 but apparently there's more to that)#anyway#arcane#arcane season 2#this is a no-hate jayce thalis post guys#especially since i don't actually know what he did and i might turn around and be his biggest hater in some days who knows#(never)
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Day 355 | id in alt
I was out here just "Wow I should color this so they know I'm gonna put air Jordans on Kugisaki Nobara fortnite tomorrow" then I didn't and just slapped some random shit on. She looks nice though.
#dailykugisaki#jjk#kugisaki nobara#tsukumo yuki#god I MISS HERRRR#Kugisaki looks good in most things because shes just fashion like that y'know#she could nuke tokyo and i would agree because shes one of the few jjk characters that actually know how to serve#no im definitely not referencing akira (i am)#i genuinely think Kugisaki and Tsukumo would've been a wonderful duo#its not just because Gojo cant teach for shit its also because hes clearly fucking picky with his students#Gojo has favorites and its fucking obvious and i hate him#there's people he deems as strong and others he deems as...normal i guess??? idk#shes crazy but she dosent have the inherited strong bullshit that gojo leans so much on. which makes her lesser to him in a way#i am going to bash that mans head in with a rock#but anyway yuki would be so fucking good for Kugisaki because well their ideals clash but also mix so well#two people with boundless rage and yuki actually having the time and the love to accompany that rage to see somebody through to the end y'no#imagine putting two people so violently both okay and not okay with dying together and maximizing their joint slay#ALSO LIKE THE SYMBOLISM They both create something that cannot simply be undone so easily#a permanent wound a permanent mass. something that is both fleeting but can change everything in an instant#grge clearly dont think so but since when have we given a flying fuck what that bitch thinks abt women at this point LMAO#Motherfucking one eyed white freak needs to stick to yaoi#never trust a mf who wiped shit on they pee hole for shits n giggles to write#BUTCH? FUTCH? FEMME? KUGISAKI CAN DO ALL OF IT#but im mostly leaning with the butchification of Kugisaki post everything
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2 moods
#a doodley#an;yway#> finding someone who also never wants children will be harrrd but itll be worth it and im not budging!#> potentially doesnt ever want any pets either.#it may be over.#ugh i guess i am going to have to go thru a roommate arc or another horrific heartbreak arc to figure it out...#i did wanna try having a kitty if i moved out bt i cld never just toy with the life of a little beast like that...#i dont hate animals but i never want to be fully responsible for or have another living being dependent on me only...#and also they die. which is an insurmountable event for me. i keep hoping i wont be employed when cookie dies bc i will end up Fired.#ive spent all of cookies life crying over her eventual death i am not mentally well enough to have pets.#we will see.
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ok not to turn into an AI tech bro for a moment here but the way some of you view AI as a general concept is starting to get really disturbing to me, esp as someone who studies computer science. There's plenty of reason to despise AI services like ChatGPT and such but it's really starting to feel like some of you will look at anything containing the word AI and go "oh well it's not made by humans even though it could have been so it's EVIL and anyone who uses it is a horrible person and also lazy". Like have we forgotten the point of making tools to make our lives easier or
#to be clear. i have never used chatgpt and am not planning to#bc i understand where it's coming from and i#don't exactly support what it's doing#but i keep seeing more and more posts that are like#'AI made ur life easier? Ur a horrible irredeemable asshole!#you should just do it urself!!' and like#for some of the things i agree i guess but#criticizing a tool for doing a job better than a human#is not a great approach if you support technological improvement#also some of y'all are just really vile abt ppl who can't do#'basic' tasks like brother some of us are disabled#hate chatgpt but don't hate those who struggle i beg of you#ai#artificial intelligence#technology#computer science#thoughts on ai
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Thinking about my current situation at home. Ignoring the obvious answer of “bigotry/ignorance”, do you guys think homo/transphobic parents are so indignant because they have a set image in their minds of what a queer person is/does, and can’t fathom that they may not know their kid as well as they think they do?
#queer#black queerness#idk what to tag this as to get feedback. and I hate tag spamming#mom had a huge argument with younger sibling this summer over their poor hygiene#and her argument as to why they aren’t trans was ‘I’ve known you your whole life and you’ve always been a girly girl’#there was a side comment about me never really adhering to femininity. but not important#to an extent it feels like for both of us she sees our existence as a ‘phase’ pushed on us by our friends#which is just blatant bigotry!! but idk#it feels like she has this set image in her head of who we are and who we’ll be as adults. and anytime we deviate from that she shuts down#like lol lmao she still thinks I’m going to be a mother someday. girl I am getting my uterus removed asap#many thoughts. I guess if anyone else has a take on this comment#honking
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Full thoughts on Oumasai? You mentioned them being terrible exes in your heart in one of your reblog post tags.
Generally, my brain has a few working settings for them: Fluffy, Angsty (but still sorta sweet), Angsty (as in the best metaphor for this is two airplanes crashing into eachother), "They exist but like the plot is more important than them and they have other stuff to deal with" and "Shuichi gets stuck in terrible situations with only Kokichi and they somehow make it work even though they've gotten extremely close to all the previous options in this list except the fluffy one and have encountered death multiple times". Btw, an AO3 author has fics where they have this mutual rivalry where they both hate eachother in their Oumota fics and its so funny that it deserves to be a runner-up on this list even though I don't have it in my own AUs. Oh, and Phantom Thief AUs are fun as well, though I'm not sure *how* canon they are cause in the game Shuichi constantly goes between liking his work and respecting his uncle, and hating his job and the pain it causes him.
They're like the one pairing I can't quite pin down as to what I'd like it to be. In my head, they're happy together, but also they hate eachother and are really only in the same spaces cause of their mutual friends, but they're also constantly up to shenangians with eachother and enjoy the other's company. It's a pairing that's really great to see in a positive portrayal when done properly, but is also really great to see in a negative portrayal when done properly. Maybe Shuichi feels sympathy for Kokichi after he solves "the puzzle", maybe he just moves onto the next one and doesn't even give him another look. Maybe Kokichi hates him after seeing him give sympathy to a literal assassin, just because his friend said so, but not a liar, even though as a detective, he should have seen firsthand how much damage murderers cause.
Maybe this is too far into fandom territory, and based on canon, and Shuichi doesn't really like investigating stuff all that much if his life doesn't depend on it, and they're getting nowhere because he's just gonna take stuff at facial value while Kokichi facepalms on the inside.
I also made an AU that's kinda a study on their opposing character traits and ideologies but I'll send that in a separate ask since its mostly off-topic.
Anyway, I really wanna know your full thoughts on this subject cause there's so much room for exploration of both of their characters through this dynamic, whether they like eachother or not.
I definitely need to tag this so it can be filtered, but it's also me talking about how I do not like a lot of this ship, and how I view them as an inherently toxic duo, so uh, check under the cut at your own peril
Oh boy, anyone who knows my blog knows I do not care for this ship, I am vocal about this but I also try to be polite. If it weren't for the fact I'm a sucker for Kokichi being cute it would basically never be on my blog. I do not think they work well in a relationship and I feel most of the time their personalities get stripped down to force it to work. I cannot stand fluff of the two outside of going "cute picture of kokichi smiling go brrr and also shuichi is there i guess"
However, I find the idea of them being a sort of "wrong person right time" to be interesting if done well. They're a trauma bond waiting to happen honestly. I feel like neither of them really see the other as like, a real person? More on Shuichi's end then Kokichi but definitely still somewhat on Kokichi's.
Shuichi sees Kokichi as a mystery, a nuisance, a confusion, kokichi's well being is second to the mystery, kokichi is someone to be stopped or placated, not a person, but like he says in canon, "the embodiment of a lie." Even when he gets closer to Kokichi in free time events or love across the universe, there's this exasperation. He's drawn to the intrigue, he's not drawn to Kokichi as a person. Kokichi is a natural phenomenon, like a tornado, inevitable, destructive, and intriguing, but not a person.
Meanwhile Kokichi only really takes an interest in Shuichi for all the things Shuichi doesn't want to be. The logical detective, the sherlock to his moriarty, someone he can wind up like a little toy robot and then watch go. He enjoys Shuichi's company, but he's not really coming down to meet Shuichi on equal ground y'know? He's still placing himself above Shuichi as the one tugging strings and fixing things to his liking. Kokichi wants the chase, but the chase doesn't really require actually opening up to Shuichi or treating him well.
or for a tldr;
This is absolutely not a mindset or dynamic for a functional relationship
So I find anything that doesn't to some degree acknowledge that fact to be bland and often ooc. These two cannot have a standard fluffy dynamic to me from where they are in canon, and attempts to do so that haven't earned it often draw an eye roll from me.
However, the dynamic as bitter exes? Absolutely perfect, the crash and burn from this must be spectacular. Shuichi goes a step too far in figuring out the mystery, Kokichi ignores Shuichi's opinions one too many times, Shuichi snitches on Kokichi to someone, Kokichi gets frustrated when Shuichi tries to step out of the bounds of the game in his mind...
Aka It's fucking imploding, and you just KNOW they'd be absolutely catty bitter exes, they're cyberstalking the other, Kokichi because he thinks its funny and he's bad at letting go, and Shuichi because he's also bad at letting go but he's pretending its to keep an eye on Kokichi and make sure he's not doing something messed up. Shuichi refusing to ever use the connections Kokichi brought him in his detective work even if it makes things more perilous or risky out of pride but does make sure Kokichi knows he's not using them.
Just, absolute disaster of a breakup, I am sitting with popcorn watching the fireworks, there's so many places you could take that and they're all interesting. I find embracing this toxicity and playing into them as a bad match who only tries to drag the other down, even unintentionally, who happened to meet at the right time to get attached to be very interesting.
Maybe they're forced to work together for a case because an innocent life is at stake and Shuichi has to swallow his pride. Maybe they keep rebounding off each other unable to resist the allure of easy drunk hatesnogging. Maybe Kokichi genuinely gets hurt and the only person around he knows well enough to be able to get some help with is Shuichi. Maybe Kokichi crashes Shuichi's wedding ten years later. Maybe Kokichi gets caught and imprisoned and Shuichi is the only detective willing to talk to him as Kokichi taunts him for being so predictable and being a lapdog who found a new owner. Maybe Shuichi starts dating again and Kokichi tries to homewreck by suddenly springing back into his life. Maybe they have healthy communication about their issu- HA maybe not that one. (this is a joke that could also be interesting)
Stories where they both have an ideology they want to impose on the other, Kokichi cannot be made to be good in the way Shuichi perceives as good without destroying everything that is Kokichi but also Shuichi cannot be made to be good in the way Kokichi perceives as good without destroying everything that Shuichi is. However neither would ever let themselves back down and just accept their differences, because that too would be a loss.
Unstoppable force meets Immovable object until they inevitably split apart messily with claw marks dug into the other. Consumption hiding as understanding on both sides. They bring out the worst in each other, Kokichi brings out Shuichi's catty prideful side while Shuichi brings out Kokichi's more controlling and manipulative side.
There is no respect, no true consideration of another persons needs and wants, only a game with one potential winner. At least, that's my own reading of the two and a potential relationship. So yeah, I basically see them as terrible exes. Neither can be what the other needs, and neither honestly really even wants to be what the other needs in the first place. No teamwork, only competition.
I will show no mercy for you🎵 you have no mercy for me🎵the only thing that I ask🎵 love me mercilessly 🎵
#ndrv3#meta#i guess?#oumasai#anon chaos#I don't begrudge people who don't enjoy this or see it another way#it's just very very much not my thing. I try not to be too mean about this in public because ship hate that targets the fans is cringe#even if I do occasionally take a few digs at the ship itself or it's popularity. It's just my own personal taste for how i like shipping#and I would never begrudge someone over having just different taste then me as a notp is a personal problem not a fandom problem#secretly its not even actually my most hated dr ship#that belongs to souda and gundam
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