#guess what; lesbophobe.

[squirrelstone]

Controversial opinion but the 2010s lesbians who cried lesbophobia against anyone who disagreed with them (it mostly terfs and aphobes doing this, but it did spread outside of those groups) did more harm to lesbians as a whole than any other group of queer people.

[lgbtlunaverse]

I do think it's rather unfair for hades game 2 to literally give us a sapphic moon witch and then proceed to have no love inerests you could conceivably do the "sun lesbian/moon lesbian" thing with. That's like lesbophobic I think. They need to bring the iliad characters back and put cassandra (priestess of apollo, which counts as decent sun symbolism I think) in the game or i'm gonna make a genderbent helios out of pure desperation.

[ssaltlicker]

Im just gonna have to accept that s2 wasnt good overall and that the fandom unfortunately is just bad. Its not the first time ive had to accept this about a piece of media i loved but this one does hurt more fsr.

Ill take the caitlyn and vi scenes, and the vi and jinx scenes, and ill just try to be happy with that. As much as it sucks that those relationships, the ones the series was formed around, were given such little time and a completely lackluster ending, ill just have to accept that it is what it is. I can imagine my own little au where those relationships stayed relevant in s2 and they actually got time and closure.

[thetorturedlovergirl]

Wow... a little sexist of my WiFi to stop working just when I've been planning since last week to watch s13 today (why so against my silly, traumatized, non-communicative, has-more-energy-than-she-should-have blonde?)

[chimney-begins]

Ellie is literally a lesbian who has said she doesn't like men and you like some lesbophobic ass rehortic LLOLOLOOO classic pedro icon

i have no idea what this is referring to? if i accidentally shared something lesbophobic lmk lol. i know ellie is a lesbian and doesn't like men, because lesbians literally do not like men. that's basic knowledge. and anyone who says ellie is bisexual is just lesbophobic for sure. but i don't remember reblogging anything like that, so...? i am Confusion.

[mithliya]

Guess what? apparently the lostelvenqueen blog has been deactivated.

LMAO HE DEACTIVATED AND DELETED HIS TIATRUTHS TWITTER ACCOUNT AT THE SAME TIME

I FUCKING TOLD Y'ALL THAT LOSTELVENQUEEN IS TYGRESSOFAERA!! tras kept dismissing it and overlooking his racism and in the end the truth prevailed.

may that lying racist lesbophobic misogynistic pig never come back & stay away forever

[low-budget-korra]

Lesbians vs Bissexual

Yep I'm really gonna hit this. First, I'm a Lesbian with both lesbians and bissexual friends, so I hear both sides. Here we go.

1. Lesbians who want to have "lesbians only" spaces. Such as bar, club, book shop.... wherever, or even such way more futile stuff like a page on social media only for lesbians to interact with lesbians about their experience as lesbians, ITS NOT BIPHOBIA.

There's the more radical version of this where there's lesbians who only want to date other lesbians bc they want a partner who understands what it is like to be a lesbian. And I get there's a really thin line but it's understandable honestly. Its like when people only choose to date ppl from the same race or social status as them, bc they understand each other's experiences. Sure, in some cases this is rooted in racism, xenophobia, classissim, but sometimes it ain't. Sometimes its just someone wanting an easier relationship with someone who understands their struggles bc they also have them.

2. I know I'm gonna be an asshole rn but dear bissexual women, the biphobia u guys suffer online IS NOT the same as the sometimes physical violence gays, lesbians and trans ppl suffer on the street. I'm saying this bc I've a lot of bissexual girls, both in Twitter and TikTok, acting like they can get beat up or suffer real bad shit just bc they are bi.

Sure, sadly it happens but it's nowhere near as much as it happens with gays, lesbians and trans. The most y'all had to deal with is mean comments.

3. Dead lesbian, just because a bissexual girl leaves you for a guy, that doesn't mean every bissexual woman will do the same with every lesbian.

Dear bissexual, stop blindly defending s8 girls who only say they are bi to get likes and "be a part of the club". They make y'all look bad. And please, stop bringing your s8 boyfriend into lgbt safe places when y'all are searching for a girl to have a threesome.

4. This one is specific bc I've seen a lot with CaitVi.

Hate comments abt the ship and put the "I'm a bissexual" as a shield to not get backlash. But girly, you can be bissexual and still don't understand how CaitVi is important to us lesbians. You can be bissexual and be lesbophobic just as much lesbians can be biphobic.

You're bissexual, you don't know what it's like to have 90% of your shows and ships getting cancelled, dying or no happy ending. Because you still have thousands of s8 shows and ships that represent you in a way bc you still like men.

And don't be like the s8 and their fuckin double standards. If the oppressor x oppressed thing really is something that bothers u, u wouldn't ship Timebomb bc guess what, Jinx worked for Silco and Silco was oppressive towards Zaunites and anyone who stood against him. While Ekko was someone who stood against him. Y'all were so focused on the enforcers uniform and the Kirammans family that y'all forgot this *detail*

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

So uh, I know it's not a fanart idea, but apparently some people still say that spop isn't problematic and .... Well I wanted to know what you thought of this post

https://www.tumblr.com/sjbattleangel/763891531761500160/seriously-if-i-hear-one-more-she-ra-is-incest?source=share

oh yeah, i've seen this post. it's funny how stans say that we're making things up or we're being lesbophobic by saying that adora and catra are sisters, when the creators and VAs themselves have confirmed that these two are sisters.

but i guess we're the ones ignoring canon and being stupid right? the show bible and character sheets and interviews with the cast are all clearly fanmade and not canon at all! /s

and like,, if the issue was that the creators couldn't reveal that catra and adora are supposed to be lovers early on because of restrictions, they could have just called them friends. friends, roommates, rivals, ANYTHING but sisters.

not to mention, there was no need to give catra and adora a clearly familial relationship with shadow weaver. there was no need to imply that both catra and adora saw shadow weaver as their mother, and that she saw them as her children. yes, shadow weaver was an abuser but that doesn't suddenly make her not their mother. toxic or not, she still filled that role in their lives.

stans say that adora and catra have mommy issues and constantly refer to shadow weaver as their mother, but we're the weird ones for saying that they're sisters??

[princessefemmelesbian]

This sad spineless little bitch made this post and then blocked me. Guess they can't handle the truth. 🤣

Love how you assume I'm a terf just because I'm a(true) lesbian. If you went through my blog for even a second you'd know that's not the case. But I'm not surprised that a bi lesbian is throwing that word around and not knowing what it means.

You also don't seem to know what homophobic means either lol. You're not gonna guilt trip actual lesbians into saying we like cis dick. Are those lesbians in the room with us right now?

Anyway go back to your lesbophobic troll cave and die there.

P.S. your boyfriend is a creep. ✌🏿

[fleabagsjoy]

Ok so i just binge-watched Oniisama E (Dear Brother) and i have.... thoughts. And feelings.

(SPOILERS AHEAD!)

Not super eloquent ones, I don't have any type of degree or formal education on writing or media analysis, i'm just word vomiting what i think and feel without any sources or facts to back it up so i hope that's okay. And i feel like i should preface with the fact that i didn't actually watch the last four episodes because i dreaded having to sit through Kaoru and Mariko ending up with men idgaf about, and instead read a summary of those last four episodes on Wikipedia.

With that being said, i absolutely loved this anime, i had already watched Revolutionary Girl Utena and everyone who enjoyed that one was talking about this anime so i figured I'd give it a try too and i don't regret it at all. The characters, the setting, the ANIMATION, the main plot and subplots (some of which i enjoyed more than others), i enjoyed it all.

I don't want to point out the obvious about the ending, we all know. But i was prepared, went in with the mindset of completely ignoring eps 36-39, specially the "Real Love is Heterosexual Love" speech that it pulls in the last couple episodes, so i'm not that upset by it. I will say that putting "you will only know what true love is when you find a man for yourself" is some twisted, sexist and lesbophobic stuff to put in an anime where Nanako, Rei and Mariko canonically fall in love with girls and whoever came up with that will not be seeing the pearly gates of heaven. And if that wasn't enough, they had to make the girls end up with men because uuhhh i guess they have to! But anyways, i still read the summary of what happened in those last four episodes.

I read a review from 3 years ago by medivhtirisfal that mentioned this and i'm so glad i'm not the only one but this really reminds me of a series of books that i used to collect when i was younger about an all girls boarding school and all types of adventures and mischief they got up to (the St. Clare's series) and i guess part of me always craved more of that. Oniisama E scratched that itch i suppose, i'll always crave all female casts and to see interactions and relationships that form between them, all types of relationships really: sisterhood, platonic, romantic, sexual, healthy, toxic, simple, complex... women stories matter! And i love when they're the center and backbone of the plot.

Now back to the actual anime. I haven't read the manga yet, don't think i will for a while even though i do like the mangakas artstyle from the few panels i've seen. But like i mentioned, Oniisama E reminds me of those books i used to collect, it's a string of events that happen during the first school year at an all-girls academy of our main character Misonoo Nanako.

It was very satisfying to see Nanako be a bit more submissive when everything and everyone was new to her vs. becoming more confident in her decisions and standing up for herself and others she cares about later on. She was always very caring for others, but i do feel like she let herself be shoved around in the first few episodes so seeing her stand up for Rei against Fukiko and quit the Sorority because of her loyalty not just to Mariko, but to herself and her values, made her one of my favorite characters. Also who can't relate to falling in love with Rei... Asaka Rei was undoubtedly one of the reasons that got me to watch the anime.

I gotta prepare myself before i write a paragraph for her because wow... too much to unpack. I can't elaborate better than some other Asaka Rei understanders about the intricacies of witnessing her own mother take her life in front of her daughter, after telling her to protect and take care of Fumiko, and how that pressure of committing to her mother's final wish lead to Rei's confusion of feelings for her own sister, devoting her everything to her, even her life. I suspect never dealing with the loss of her mother properly is what lead to Rei's severe depression and inability to understand all types love and bonds that she could have with other people, seeing Fukiko as her beginning and end from that moment.

Needless to say that, as much as i wanted her to realize this and free herself from this torment so she could deal with her trauma properly, she had to do it by herself so she could gain some sense of self and build an identity outside of someone she worshiped for so long and SPECIALLY before getting into a relationship with anyone (r.i.p. nanakorei). She's the most tragic character in this story to me, all of this started at a very young age and she had no way to get out of it and when she got close to that, the plot decided to say NOPE. NO CHANCES OF A HAPPY ENDING FOR YOU. Bottom line is: she desperately needed therapy. Veeery early on.

I have to follow up with Ichinomiya Fukiko, a really toxic and abusive teenage girl with too much power over the other girls at school, she lives in a bubble built for incredibly rich people (as do many of the other characters), leader of the Sorority (an academy "elite club"). One of the best things about shoujo ai like this is that all female characters are so fleshed out and have so much to give to the viewers and Fukiko is no exception. I will say that i fail to see a character that has so much (negative) impact on most of the other main characters as she was very often abusing/taking advantage of/humiliating others.

It's definitely because of her upbringing but she always bottled up her feelings to keep up a façade of composure, with Nanako's constant defiance, after confronting her feelings for Henmi and her relationship with Rei, as well as after the abolition of the Sorority, we gradually got to see different sides of her. She's... complicated. Not an evil mastermind or anything, her attempts of sabotage seemed very desperate adn half-hearted, but she could still be very cruel and take advantage even of people she claimed to love. Still, Fukiko was one of the main driving forces of the story and i can always appreciate a character like that.

Of course that leads me to Orihara Kaoru! She is probably one of the most consistent characters in the anime, loyal, determined and resolute, very sure of where she stands, oh my god... i'd crush on her so hard too if i was one of the girls at the academy. I loved the relationship she had with Rei, the soulmateism was off the charts, they had an incredibly intimate bond that no one could replicate and, besides Nanako, i felt for her the most when Rei passed away. I'm pretty sure her having to face the past between her and Henmi was also a big part of her character but again, i really don't wanna witness how that ends so i'm not gonna elaborate too much on what happens in the last four episodes, which is unfortunate because i'm sure a lot of her own development as a character happens in those but whatever...

I didn't expect this when i started Oniisama e but Shinobu Mariko is my favorite character!! It took a while for her to grow on me but i love her a lot. Mariko is mostly known for the misandrist lines (which... real) and i appreciate that she never really changed that (until #those episodes but i won't consider them strictly canon for my sake), but she had such a great story arc with facing her loneliness and facing the problems she had with her parents. I'm no psychologist but BPD is heavily implied and from what i've seen by other fans with BPD, a lot of symptoms were shown throughout the anime, which i appreciate since Mariko wasn't villainized and was instead shown as someone with her own issues with boundaries and relationships at first but that she could manage and balance in a healthier way later on... it's not something you can easily see in anime, specially not from this time. I was really happy when Mariko, Nanako and Tomoko became a great friend trio who could rely on each other halfway through, another testament to her character development.

Tomoko was one of my favs as well! A lot of other characters were very interesting and had important moments in main characters arc like Misaki and Henmi. It's been a while since i've seen an older shoujo but the animation and editing was fascinating to me, very gorgeous, over the top sometimes but we need that! What happened to that! Anyways it's very beautiful, i appreciate it. The intro song will stick with me too and the damn Academy bell... Very melodramatic, but very fun, it's a hit for me!

I'm still grieving Rei so i can't really face anything that happened in eps 33-35. We're past making the lesbians suffer, NANAKO AND REI DESERVED THEIR DATE ON THE BEACH!!

I fear i will be upset by that for the time being but hey, that's what fanfiction is for.

[vaspider]

It is interesting to me that -- when I went to go look and see if the silly little dork who's been bothering a bunch of people made another mimic blog -- I ran across people sending confused anons to others complaining that I blocked them, but in the same breath 'and also vaspider is a proship lesbophobe who eats children' and i'm like... buddy... do you think that I saw shit like that and go 'ah, I should leave that person unblocked?' Nah. You're gone. I don't need to talk to you, and you don't need to interact with me. Ever. About anything.

This is what I mean by 'curate your experience.' Legit, if I run across posts like anon asks 'i saw goody spider dancing with the devil' and the person responds 'omg i will not look up anything, i will take that post down right away,' man, I just block people. If I run across a post (like I did yesterday when filing reports on the last harassment spree) advocating for physical violence against me, I will take the less-than-five-minutes it takes to block every single person who interacted positively with the post. It's never a lot of people, to be honest, so it takes very little time. And then I move on, and I never think about any of them as individuals again, and they'll never be able to interact with my posts again, and that is the desired end result.

I cannot recommend this tactic enough, honestly. You don't owe anyone your time, your energy, any of it.

But now I'm writing rambling posts about blocking strategies instead of writing about the Phoenician pantheon, oop. Guess this is just me making up more excuses to not write the words I get paid to write.

[diaphin93]

Edelcrits being Lesbophobic Take 2:

Okay, so remember my blogpost about that guy with very colorful opinions about sibling on sibling relationships being asked to pass judgement on whether or not Lesbians are wrong about liking Edelgard? Yes, the Edelcritical Lesbophobia just intensified

Aka Dimitris Lethal Cock, somebody who praises Azure Gleam as Gay and lies about being a LGBT Safespace while deliberately misgendering people on other blogpost of theirs. So yeah, I think it doesn't need to be said that we can automatically dismiss this person speaking for sapphic and lesbian women. I guess what they mean is that lesbians should learn to behave and start to demand androcentric stories that values male relationship in a way that cisheterosexual women can read faux-queer relationships tailored to their heteronormative tastes out of it without offending the cisheterosexual male fanbase? Because lets be honest, this is the majority of queer subtext in the Azure Routes and Azure Gleam even doubles down on it by sidelining Dedue in favor of putting more emphasis to Dimitris Relationship with the white weeb twink.

But yeah, this post is really written by somebody who does not understand sapphic women, probably never interacted with a transfem lesbian their entire live and clearly has some extensive prejudice against sapphics which are widespread in Fandoms, because these kinds of debates always end in bashing the sapphics or their media. Because otherwise they would take back a step and notice...that Edelgard is very much in line with the typical fandom favs of sapphics?

Because lesbians don't want and probably hate whatever you consider to be better and most sapphic fans probably would immediately drop the series if you had any say in what to creat tbh? We are talking about some vile weirdo who seems to be into Azure Gleam after all, lol. I already made my point clear why Edelgard resonates with Sapphics. Her design, her personality and narrative are a super strong match, which is just further supported by also having Dorothea right next to her, another sapphic fav with strong feminist themes in her narrative.

Ultimately, I really recommend especially trans Edelgard Fans to stay away from this person as they seem to be quite nefarious, as I mentioned, I've seen them already deliberately misgendering members of the Edelgard discord, I assume in order to move forward their strawman, that Edelgard Fans are only men.

[lettersfromcassiopeia]

Since I can’t respond to the discourse posting that just happened since OP is a minor and can’t take criticism I guess, I wanna say something really quick

I’m really not liking how people are talking to my siblings. My brothers. And I’m really tired of all these weird takes from predominantly younger members of the community. I’m begging everyone in the community to think more on the nature of labels and how they can change

And I’m also tired of pretending the opposition of the whole ‘Transman Lesbian’ debacle are reasonable people. I don’t care how much you say you aren’t a TERF— you’re doing the TERF thing anyway.

Furthermore you’re demonizing people literally just playing with words and what they could mean and saying they aren’t valid. Immediately calling them Lesbophobic without even offering them a chance to talk and explain.

This is cop behavior. You’re acting like cops.

No cops at pride

Now git’.

[euniexenoblade]

im struggling with my words a little rn so bear with me

for a while i thought that transmisogyny was just misogyny and transphobia together rather than a specific form of transphobia only trans women/fems faced.

looking at transandrophobia now (ignoring the guys who genuinely believe they are being discriminated against bc they are men? i guess?) my wrong definition of transmisogyny makes more sense than transandrophobia bc transandrophobia as a word insinuates that specific transphobia that trans men/mascs have has anything to do with the fact that theyre men when in reality the transphobia has more to do with misogyny since its always framed like theyre poor little girls who were manipulated by a cult into mutilating themselves or whatever.

so there needs to be (or ppl want there to be) a word like transmisogyny that is able to properly encapsulate both transphobia and misogyny. the problem is that transmisogyny already exists, they cant co-opt that from trans women, and the original word they came up with is a problem bc misandry isnt a thing. at least that seems to be what the discourse seems to boil down to to me. just that they want a word to describe all that but theres an undertone of not just transmisogyny but misogyny as well that has infected the whole conversation

i hope you get what im trying to say and that im not COMPLETELY off-base here. if im wrong you can just ignore this, im just tryin to get it

Anon, i do get what you're trying to say, and I really need you to understand I'm not being mean when I say this, but that term does exist, it's "transphobia." This is not a new topic, this has been discussed for decades, this is already covered under transphobia. The problem is these people have not read materials related to the topics they want to argue about, so they do not fully understand why they're talking about.

I personally do not care if transmascs have some special term to use for their experience. I know a lot of people do, because it's sorta a slap in the face of the concept of transmisogyny and transphobia, but genuinely I do not care. My personal problem lies in that when they decide on these terms, they chose terms championed by racists (transmisandry) and lesbophobes and terfs (transandrophobia).

But I do, for a fact, think the desires of needing these terms is from being uneducated about what transphobia (and by extension, what transmisogyny) and intersectionality are.

[tirfpikachu]

Omg the post about 'a lesbian could be attracted to a man if they're very special' reminded me of something that happened.

I go to a club and one of the girls who went there recently split from her BF, and apparently he wasn't very nice. She said she had only ever dated women until that point and before that she thought she was a lesbian. The girl's friend said well he did catfish you.

Turns out, the girl had met him on a dating app when he was identifying as a trans woman and he basically 'detransitioned' the moment they started dating.

So this girl's friend is going well, you are a lesbian, and then the girl goes, really quietly, well no, I guess I'm bi? Girl's friend: no, you're a lesbian.

Like, I'm holding my tongue because I'm bi. I've never dated a man (nor do I intend to), but I still find them attractive, so I'm bi. And this girl was genuinely attracted to her bf, but her friend was adamant she was still a lesbian and I'm just... if I can openly say I'm bi without any intention of dating the opposite sex, and never having done so, then what's the issue here?

It was so awkward, like the girl was clearly uncomfortable about it.

THAT'S SO AWKWARD WTF ????????????

like bruh if you're attracted to Just Some Dude who isn't even presenting as transfem anymore... you're bi as hell. if you've genuinely been attracted to a guy or an omab person who isn't presenting as female or even aligning with women socially... you're not a lesbian. febfem sexuality should honestly be more normalized. it's okay to choose to only date one side or the other! it doesn't make you any less bi. that's legit just biphobic rhetoric. people don't CHOOSE to be gay based on finding one side annoying or smth. gays legit are incapable of being attracted to either the opposite sex or people who present as the opposite sex, within reason ofc. and even then that's still technically a bisexual experience in the bi = both sexes definition, and not a homosexual experience unless you can't tell at all the person's sex... which imo is pretty unlikely once you learn the person is trans, there's usually certain features & behaviors that give it away once you look closer that might or might not affect your attraction. but yeah, saying that you can straight up be into someone who presents 100% as male and STILL be a lesbian is unhinged.

like the "well the person is transfem" as an excuse doesn't even apply?? that blows my mind. i would even, very controversially, have given people some leeway on the whole being technically bi/into both sexes yet only being into bio/cis men & transmascs (or bio/cis women & transfems) thing... like in a way that's being into both sexes but also only being into gay-passing relationships, which is a really unique experience. it technically still falls under bisexuality, but imo it's still a close cousin experience to gayness. honestly if the whole "bi lesbian" thing had been only about people who are technically bisexual in the dictionary definition of the term but are only capable to be attracted to people presenting as female or male and only date in a gay-presenting way, i wouldn't have had an issue with it since transness can make sexuality quite complicated. they would still face homophobia, including about them not being into het-presenting relationships. as long as they had been respectful abt homosexuals i wouldn't have cared. but alas, "bi lesbian" is for a rly stupid reason...

that "friend" is just pushing biphobic & lesbophobic rhetoric. i hope you can have a good convo with her and reassure her that if she was ever into a guy, a male person that's 100% male-presenting, she is extremely bisexual. there's just no way around it. even with the transfem identity, i'll see 100% male-passing transfems try to get with lesbians and it drives me fucking crazy. it's disrespectful af!!

[alicepao13]

Hudson and Rex S05E07 - The Date Escape - Part B

Is drinking along with the prison escapees considered aiding and abetting?

I used to think that the response from the public on this episode was exaggerated, and then the murdered healthcare CEO story happened.

There's throwback to the fact that Rex doesn't like coconut.

Angela Bassett mention! With two Ts, by the way. Get it right, subtitles.

Boy, do I have news for you...

Charlie referencing car trouble. I'm sure it won't come up again.

"We've been slammed by hoax calls." Who would have guessed...

Charlie, take notes.

That was funny.

Oh, that swollen wrist was horrible. I'm not screenshotting it.

Here's our b plot. Or maybe it counts as part of the main plot because denying treatment to Valerie was actually the reason for all this? If not, then we have two b plots in this episode (Joe's dating life is the second). Also, Sarah looks so good. I had to say it.

Doctor: "It's my belief that negative thinking often leads to real life health outcomes." Sarah: "Huh. It's my belief that being incarcerated leads to negative thinking." Slay!

Imagine if Charlie was there. He would have been so horny after that.

Charlie, can you just... not be you for a second and leave those lesbians alone?

EAT SHIT UP FAITH AND FAMILY! It was a very sweet moment!

What are you doing? Were you sent by Up Faith and Family?

"For fuck's sake, Charlie. Don't embarrass me."

Charlie is not lesbophobic, by the way. He just hates weddings.

Oh boy. Yes, go all in on a date with a woman you've never met.

Rex grasped the opportunity to be the ring bearer, and good for him because Charlie is still dragging his heels to this day.

Tell that to S6 Charlie. Like, can you please decide if it is or not in your universe? It's not that hard.

You'll catch up, eventually.

Now, that priest is definitely doing god's work.

Why would you stop to say the line???

Engine failure? Dude, you're embarrassing Rex.

To be continued in Part C.