#greeks vs romans

[sodamnbored]

Octavian diplomatically, before going into senate: Look, I know we have this unspoken rivalry thing -

Percy: It’s not a rivalry. You’re just mean to me. And it’s not unspoken. You literally talk about it all the time.

Octavian: Irrelevant. We have to work together so let’s be civil for the time being.

[duxfemina]

A classic Greek vs Roman situation

[bimyself06]

Som I'm listening to "We will stand for everfree" from mlp equestria girls(don't ask why) and the song kind of makes me think of what would happen if during the roman invasion in HOO an all out war broke out because of it. Like if Gaia hadn't even woken up and the giants all defeated obviously , then i think the greeks would have probably won. They might not have the numbers but many of them have experience in fighting armies way bigger than theirs and this time the enemy/invading forces don't have a bunch of titans/immortals on their side, they are literally fighting in the greeks home turf and i don't remember the books mentioning the campers taking down any defences from SOM and BOTL so there's that too. If it were to happen i like to think that Percy would side with CHB because he knows them personally he grew and fought along side them for years, he only knew the romans for like 3 days and most that time they didn't trust him. He doesn't have the same with the romans that he does the greeks.

[1800-lemon-boy]

Imagine 10 year old Nico info-dumping to Bianca about pirates and Greek Heroes.

Now imagine HOO Nico on the Argo 2, looking back at it all and realising he’s basically now a Greek hero AND a pirate, but he isn’t able to info dump to Bianca like he used to. 💀

Imagine him going to tell Bianca before realising-

<33

[katerinaaqu]

Sooo ive been kinda wondering about Odysseus/Ulysses in 8th circle of hell in Dantes inferno , like i know dante doesnt know of homers version of illiad & odyssey but its kinda funny when you have Odysseus chilling in afterlife and then "sorry dude the upper management decided to move you in the 8th circle"

"The what?"

*gets thrown into 8th circle allongside Diomedes*

Hahahaha yeah!

And most likely indeed Dante never got to hold an actual copy of Iliad or Odyssey given how probably some of the first scripts became translated from Greek to Latin to the mid 1300s from the Byzantine manuscripts and by that time Divine Comedy was already out. I highly doubt that Dante would have some sort of access to that material. So most of his sources come probably from Roman material and Roman scholists at best and from contemporary scholars that would comment and analyze these texts. Now it is interesting how Dante writes his Divine Comedy exactly as a tragicomical thing but he is also imposing the christian beliefs in it. For example Odysseus and Diomedes are not only deceitful people in the texts but they are also pagan so yeah....many sins there! So he is using the concept of Hell in christian belief and adds these charcters who obviously did not have the same beliefs in the afterlife as christians. That alone is a comical use of anachronism, similar to those who make fun of judgement day as comparing other religions

Hahahahaha then imagine Diomedes chilling at Elysium with some gods and get called to hell alongside with Odysseus! HAHAHA!

But yeah the fact that he had access to Roman material makes sense! Hahahaha Not that he would have Odysseus a different fate but still the Romans by n large absolutely HATED the guy! Hahahahaha!

[thejinxedchaos]

Me when people say Athena cursed Medusa

[aroaceleovaldez]

Not to get pedantic (oh who am i kidding that’s most of this blog) but I am genuinely fascinated by the potential applications of the established canon in HoO and TOA that the gods canonically have both historic and regional forms, and can appear as specific versions of those forms and have kids of those specific forms, which influence what powers the kid has/what pantheon they fall under/etc etc (and also the implication that demigods can be born under multiple forms of a singular deity). This is somewhat backed up even earlier in the first series when we’re told that Percy has earthquake powers because of his father being Poseidon “The Earthshaker” (which is Mycenaean Poseidon) - which could also tie into why Percy generally takes leadership roles, is hopping in and out of the Underworld a lot, and is apparently particularly powerful for even just a Big 3 kid, since all that would line up with Mycenaean Poseidon being generally put at the head of the pantheon and also being a chthonic deity.

Now this gets really interesting when we start looking at deities being combined and conflated, because a.) the Romans weren’t the only ones doing that and b.) the Romans had their own gods originally, they didn’t just take the Greek ones and slap a new name on them. They merged a lot with their own preexisting deities alongside adopting worship of deities from other cultures as the Romans spread (and the Greeks also did this), and c.) the ancient Greeks and Romans did exist at the same time.

Like, we know in terms of the Greeks and Romans that if their godly parents are “equivalent” then their demigod children are siblings, just like if Greek demigods have the “same” godly parent then they are also siblings. However, very few Greco-Roman gods are one-to-one, and a lot are like three gods in a trench coat, and then if you want to get into historical forms then you can start running into weird things like “Well, if you go back far enough, these two Greek gods may have originated from the same thing-” and also if we’re talking historical forms, again, the Greeks and Romans existed at the same time! Which means there would be historic forms of godly parents that are both Greek and Roman! So like, where do we go from there? Would Hazel be equally siblings to a child of Plutus as she is to Nico because both Hades and Plutus were conflated into Pluto? Orcus was also conflated with Pluto - does that mean when Nico killed Bryce Lawrence, he was killing his half-brother? (cause then that parallels just a couple chapters later when Will faces off against Octavian-) Are there demigods who, depending on their godly parents’ form(s), are technically both a Greek and Roman demigod? If Hermes and Pan possibly originated from the same god, does that mean all the satyrs are siblings with the Hermes kids? If we want to get into all the nonsense of Dionysus’ origins and Zagreus and Hades, does that mean Nico is technically siblings with Dionysus kids? Does Dionysus joke about this during their therapy sessions? Are some demigods in certain cabins siblings with kids in other cabins but each others’ siblings aren’t siblings depending on what form their godly parents were in?

I have a headache now.

[what-do-you-mean-theyre-evil]

The way the HP girlies on TikTok are fighting for their lives trying to prove that Harry can beat Percy, I'm immensely pleased 🤣

[qutibahalfarouqitheclonetrooper]

My favorite Death Battle episode is Hercules VS Sun Wukong (Greek Mythology/Roman Mythology VS Chinese Mythology/Journey to the West)

[agnesandhilda]

that historical fiction character would hold that general belief but they would not phrase it like that 

[sodamnbored]

Octavian, narrowing his eyes: What, you think just because you’re bootlicious you can do whatever you want?

Percy, in neon shutter shades, slurping through his straw: Yeah, pretty much.

[helyeahmangocheese]

alright so who's out here putting demigods in an Olympics AU and which child of Aphrodite is pulling an Ilona Maher (my favorite Olympian) talking about "the Olympic Villa"

[rukia-writes]

[spotlightstudios]

Shout-out to my other English professor who somehow has not interacted with the Percy Jackson series. At all. Completely unaware. Blissfully ignorant.

(And to me who is apparently more mentally ill about the collection than others because I have read every single series by uncle Rick and that is apparently *not* a common theme among the English Majors)

[katerinaaqu]

Greeks: Oh no we don't talk about Hades! Bad luck!

Romans: We don't care! Pluto come here we will build temples for you!