#give me the timeline @DreamWorks

[sarilolla]

Now I'm thinking about Pop Trolls and what happened with them... I love making it clear in my fic that what happened with the Bergens affected them, to various degrees.

Small ramble? I guess? It's not completely cohesive

In Hanahaki, they make peace with the Bergens, but most older Trolls are still anxious around them, and only Bridget and Gristle actually know where the village is and they never go in.

In Different Beat I'm at a bit of limbo, I can see them helping Bridget which would help King Gristle and it dominos into the Bergens being happy, but there won't be a positive relationship between the two species.

In Experiment Pop... well, Bergens are genuinely huge bad guys there, and there's no way the Pop Trolls would ever willingly interact with a Bergen. There's more trauma than just Trollstice, and it affects the newer generations too meaning they can't fully get away from what happened.

I have more aus that I haven't posted but Bergen relations are spotty or bad there too, so... I guess I just think they should have been affected more

So it's all different, which is the joy of aus, but something I don't like is how glossed over the trauma of Trollstice is in the movies and the series. How long were the Pop Trolls captured and eaten? The franchise doesn't give us a definitive answer, but from context clues I would say a decade or two at the bare minimum. The first movie starts with the story where it's shown the city is built around the Troll Tree. They wouldn't get such an established city in so little time, I refuse to believe that. Trollstice was so integral to them, that the adult Bergens in the beginning of the first movie seemed like they had had a Troll their entire lives. I refuse to believe the Bergens showed up between BroZone breaking up and Rosiepuff being eaten

I want to say that realistically, the Pop Trolls were captured for 80-130 years. It may seem like a lot, but it is what makes most sense to me (feel free to debate me on that and provide your own speculated timeline). The timeline just... doesn't work properly? We don't have any set points to look at, except that in the first movie the escape was 20 years ago, and between World Tour and Band Together a month has passed. This makes it so I can fuck around with the timeline as needed, but they could have given me more to work with. So the only timeline I am working with is that at the escape, the Pop Trolls had been stuck with the Bergens for nearly 130 years, the whole Music schism happened almost 200 years ago (and while they were with the Bergens there was a generation or two who didn't even know other Trolls existed), and the Strings were made around 250 years ago? But that also doesn't fully fit with how a society evolves, so might have been even longer between all of this?

Anyway... Back to the Pop Trolls and how the Bergens and Trollstice affected them

I love making jokes in my stories about how desensitized the Pop Trolls are to death and destruction of their home. I love writing other Trolls' reactions to that. It's fun and morbid at the same time. Like the other genres can be as pissy as they want about Pop's attempted takeover so many years ago, but in a cynical way, they got their karma... Other genres had places to be safe, evolve in their own time, no huge threats, but the Pop Trolls lost that, and you can't tell me that wasn't lost for a long time

I firmly believe the Pop Trolls don't have an actual cemetery, but rather a field of flowers planted in remembrance, a Memorial. Flowers planted for the ones lost, but no bodies buried with them. Just a flower representing who they were and what they meant to their loved ones (which brings in my headcanon that flowers and flower language is a big part of Pop Troll culture). It's just in the past 20 years they actually have had bodies to bury, and those are few and far between

...I had a point to this ramble, I think. I think Trollstice and Pop Troll history is my fictional roman empire, it has genuinely gone in and out of my head since the first movie. It just hits hard

[hey-hey-j]

young dumb 20-somethings

(★ my Kofi)

[probablyaseamonster]

No but Me and My Shadow would’ve done SO MUCH for little me like

My kid self had so many horrible takes. I was a massive NLOG and I was obsessed with “the darkness”. It took me until my late teens to realize that I could be a badass while also being my sunny af self.

Shadow Stan would’ve made me realize SO MANY THINGS about myself, and maybe even help me realize my bisexuality (although Hiccup from HTTYD and Jack Frost were doing that as well, god I was so cringe)!

I could’ve blossomed into myself so much quicker if I’d had this influence in my late childhood, especially considering the fact that so many of the tropes in the movie are ones I eat up nowadays. It could’ve become tied with HTTYD for my favourite movie, and change me into myself so much quicker than I did.

But no, we got Mr. Peabody & Sherman.

[aquaquadrant]

thoughts on the new character bios/interviews that the dreamworks twitter posted below the cut, as promised

so right off the bat, i’m trying to figure out when these interviews took place. it seems to be along the lines of a ‘where are they now?’ for the nublar six, so it’d be long enough after their rescue for them to be settled back in their lives. in terms of exact timing, my guess would be it’s 2-3 years before the time frame of chaos theory, and here’s why.

ben’s part mentions him starting college. if he was 14 during JWCC, he would be around 17 at the time of JW fallen kingdom (ie. during the epilogue scene) cuz it’s 3 years after JW. this would make him roughly 21 during chaos theory cuz it’s supposed to be around the same time as JW dominion (i think so, anyway, could be misremembering), which is 4 years after fallen kingdom. while it’s possible ben delayed his start at college bc of the whole ‘was stranded on dinosaur island for a while’ thing, starting at 21 seems pretty late. so this would most likely indicate the interviews were closer to the timing of the epilogue scene, maybe a year or two after (putting ben at 17-19).

more evidence: darius’s part portrays him as fairly well-adjusted and mentions him traveling to give talks, as we saw in the epilogue. we know that at the start of chaos theory, darius has been isolating himself for an unknown amount of time following brooklynn’s supposed death. i doubt ‘the dino times’ would’ve been able to get ahold of him for an interview.

final point: kenji’s part mentions his relationship with brooklynn and that “all is good in casa de kenji.” so like, it’s very unlikely brooklynn is ‘dead’ yet LMAO

the only thing that snags at me is sammy’s part saying she has her own ranch now. if this interview took place a couple years before chaos theory, she wouldn’t be older than 20. that’s a pretty damn young age to own and operate your own ranch- but since she comes from a family of ranchers, it wouldn’t be impossible. perhaps her family purchased some additional land for her to manage a smaller herd and they stay in close business with each other (providing surplus calves as replacement heifers for sammy’s herd, for example). either way, we stan a strong independent businesswoman.

also there’s the fact that they didn’t make one for brooklynn, when theoretically she would’ve still been alive at the time these interviews were done. but i think the dreamworks team might’ve just been concerned that ppl would confuse the timeline and use it as proof brooklynn is alive (full disclosure: i fully believe brooklynn is alive but ofc the show wants us to still think she’s dead) so i could see them leaving her out just for that reason.

now that the timeline junk is of the way, here’s more random thoughts.

yaz doesn’t seem to have returned to her career as an aspiring pro athlete (seems like something the interviewer would’ve mentioned if she had). this feeds my headcanon of her retaining permanent damage to her ankle quite well. also, the trauma. sammy’s part says they “don’t have time to keep worrying about all that running for our lives stuff.” maybe that’s part of it: yaz decided to just settle down and enjoy the quiet life on the ranch. good for her!!

kenji opened up a climbing school?? that’s random as fuck but i’m here for it. on the surface, it seems like the kinda thing rich tourists would sign up for- y’know, the ppl who travel to exotic places around the world to climb shit. but it’s actually a super useful skill to have in a post-dinosaur world, and kenji knows all too well how important these kinds of skills are for survival. so for me, it’s a choice that reflects the maturing he did during his character arc.

i’ve seen some ppl speculating that yasammy might’ve had a breakup/relationship issues. i sincerely hope that’s not the case- at the time of the interviews, they seemed to be in a very committed relationship, but since that was prob a couple years ago i guess there’s a chance something could’ve happened after. fingers crossed i’m wrong and we’ll just get loads of wonderful yasammy content in the show🤞

i’m curious what ben went/was going to college for. considering the epilogue slated him as researching with mae on mantah corp island, i wonder if he’d pursue some kind of neuro/psych/animal behavior thing.

yaz anxiety mention! god please let the show delve into all the PTSD these kids must’ve brought back from the island.

every new bit of info we get has me so excited like can the show just drop already 😩⚰️

[justine1268]

Nah you don't get it, Broppy's been my number 1 ship for so darn long, literally since I'm 10, and to such an intense extent that I have so many standards for how Branch and Poppy's relationship should go next.

Like, I really want them to stay exactly like they are in Holiday in Harmony and Band Together or even better or else I don't want it.

If we get any joke/allusion about them being intimate I better be somewhat able to figure if they're safe with each other.

I want to see them both wanting to propose to each other (maybe Poppy asking him to be her prince consort first), I need to see the proposal itself, I BETTER see the wedding with either one of them walking down the asile, everyone getting emotional especially the couple when they see each other in their outfits, but I especially want to see Poppy carrying Branch in her arms. PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME

I want Branch to be king but at the same time I don't want him to have responsibilities that he does not want or do as well in.

I want them to have children but certainly not so soon timeline wise and certainly towards the end of the franchise and for it to have been wanted and planned before it happens.

And lastly PLEASE let them get old together. Let the franchise evolve with them getting older to the point where we can notice Poppy's ponytail get larger and droopier and Branch get a little stubble or something. Let the franchise end with them as an old couple reminiscing about their life and still having that affectionate grumpy and sunshine banter.

If I can get these things, my life is yours, DreamWorks.

[bluegirl-14]

Listen, I don't care how long ago the final season of Voltron was aired, I don't care if anyone is still in the Voltron fandom. I will ALWAYS be pressed over how they did these characters SO dirty.

First off, the final episode of the series was such a damn copout. Ending the series with Allura dying to 'save the multiverse' and having the paladins forgive Honerva? After everything she had done in the 8 seasons leading up to this? After she tore apart the same multiverse she destroyed because the one timeline she found where Lotor knew she was a fucking liar? Make it make so much sense Dreamworks.

And then the 10 years later shit. Shiro had a wedding. Okay, yeah, he got out of the Garrison and settled down. He should, after all he had been through. I bet dying and being stuck in Black for months would lead to some introspective work. But killing Adam so there was no gay relationships, and then to pair him with a character who had like, what? Two lines in the full series, and we saw Shiro interact with once, as a Captain and crew setting? No build up, no hints during the full season?

Don't get me wrong. If the writers wanted to give Shiro the chance to shed everything from his past life, then by all means, they had the right to. But the way they did it was not only poorly written, but it also left those who had been hoping to FINALY see Shiro interact with his partner, that had been teased at outside of the show.

Hunk is another one I had a big problem with. As a plus size person, who felt like she was just that 'fat best friend' during the airing of the final season, I related to Hunk. I loved how he was more than the foodie. He's an engineer, he's smart. He matches Pidge in intellect. He's kind, he's brave despite his anxiety. He had nausea a lot. He's fleshed out, he's more than fat and food jokes.

And they took that all away, to make him Gordan Ramsey of space. They took 8 seasons of character arcs to make him that. A fucking fat person likes food joke. Once again, I wouldn't have had a problem if that wouldn't have been it. Make it a soup kitchen for those displaced during the Empires rule. Make him donate food to needy planets. Hell, have him travel with Keith, giving food to the planets they go to for help. Just, something that acknowledges Hunks generous nature, his kindness. Not Food Wars.

Speaking of Keith, I found that while I expected his ending to be similar to what it was, I didn't have any real emotion about it. He was a displaced child, who was, from what we can assume about what little we really know about his childhood, outside of him meeting Shiro and how his parents met. He always felt like he didn't belong, with the Paladins, and struggled being leader because he didn't feel like he lived up to Shiro's expectation or his legacy after he died.

So Keith teaming up with Lotor's generals to basically continue what Voltron did makes sense, I guess. But, I would have loved to see something else. If anyone deserves to settle down, aside from Shiro, I think it would be Keith. I can see him as the type of person to give a child, either adopted or biological, the childhood he wished he had.

Pidge's end is as to be expected. She's working with her parents and her brother, working for the Garrison. Out of all the characters, I honestly think Pidge had the least amount of true character arks. She had the moment in season 1 or 2 when she wanted to ditch Voltron to find her brother, and Keith called her out. And when she bonded with Green in season one on Olkyn. But once she found Matt and Sam, Pidge had stayed consistent in her behavior and beliefs till the end of the show. She, like Hunk, was a stereotype. She was the nerdy, smart friend, the guy in the chair.

I would have loved to see her do something with botany, like her mother. Something that ties her back to Green. Because even though the Lion is gone, the bond and the respect she gained would have still been there. So for her to just immediately go back to that tech guy was a disservice.

Lance's and Lotor's endings are by far the ones I hated the most. With Lance, there was NO reason that Lance had to become a fucking farmer. After everything that happened to him during the season, for him to immediately quit was ill planned and just a bad move. If they wanted to write Allura out at the end of the series, then sure. Lance steps back to grieve, starts replanting the flowers on New Altea in honor of her.

But Lance has so much more potential than. Make him a pilot, make him a teacher. Hell, pull a Keith and have him volunteer around the planets. Anything that would show off his pride in himself, and to she Allura that he would live his life for her, because she died saving it. Yeah, he can keep a cabin close or in the field, so he always has a memory of her, but he needs something else.

The final season with Lotor was just dumb. The writing had set him up as this exiled prince, who never wanted to be like his father, who watched him blow up a planet that Lotor had spent YEARS on, because his son pissed him off. Lotor killed his father, was conspiring against Haggar, wanted to study Altean alchemy with Allura. He was finally going to learn about his mother's people from those who actually knew her.

And then they make him just like Zarkon.

I. Hate. That they made that planet of Alteans, and Lotor was harvesting them for quintessence. I get they were setting it up for Haggar to use them as pilot in the final season. But there were SO many other ways to do that with a similar affect.

Especially considering the fact that those people had been in hiding since Altea exploded, and Lotor was a fucking baby then. Like...have Haggar keep them hidden instead? It would have made more fucking sense. She still felt a sliver of a connection, despite not knowing why because she lost her memory.

Lotor grew up wishing he could know more about his other side, and having no one to ask about it, because no information remained after the race died. So to satisfy his curiosity, he started studying other cultures, other planets so he could compare. Maybe he'll find something similar to Altea, and can guess from that.

And then, wow, there are Alteans left. And they have Voltron, isn't that so great? But wait, my father want's the Black Lion, and his witch is acting shady. That's odd, I wonder what that's about?

Holy crap, she's been hiding more Alteans for the past 10,000 years, and they have no idea what's been happening outside of their planet. And even more holy crap, she's been harvesting them so they don't get to powerful, and so she can sap up their power for herself. Why didn't anyone know about this?

Then continue on, with Lotor eventually teaming up with the Alteans and liberating them, but obviously they don't all go, because they don't trust him (Galra, duh.) And the ship that is carrying them all is attacked, and the ship explodes, or something. The Alteans get angry and Haggar, now starting to remember and realizes who she is, uses this to her advantage, and now boom, we have the pilots in season 8.

And this way, if you want to keep Keith and Krolia finding the Alteans, you have it. If you want Romelle, you have it. If you want more Alteans living with the Paladins, or at least have Allura and Coran meet them, you have. And of course, Lotor doesn't die. And for his ending, have him and Keith work together. Have him travel the stars, studying the different planets. Have him become a scholar, a archivist, a librarying. Anything! The possibilities are endless.

Now, on to Allura. To be completely honest, and you can burn me for this, I never really loved Allura. It wasn't really anything specific I didn't like, I just didn't grow any strong attachments to her as a character. I felt bad for her, sure. But nothing much outside of that.

But I do believe that she deserved a better ending. Even if she does still die in the end, she shouldn't have had to bounce from guy to guy to hide grief, because that shit was still there. She should have been allowed to continue her relationship with Lotor, because that was cute damn it.

It wasn't fair for her to have been in a relationship for what, a month before she died? It sure as shit wasn't fair to Lance, who had spent the whole series chasing after her, to get her, and see her die directly after. Not cool.

And if the whole reason they did it was to stop Klance, or what the fuck ever people believe they did it, pull a Curtis, give Keith someone else. He meets someone after Allura dies, he settles down, or continues with his red cross in space shtick. Or have him stay single, because some people just don't want a relationship. It doesn't matter because people would have written them together in fanfic anyway.

And last, but certainly not least, Coran.

Coran, the gorgeous man, was done so dirty, it's not even funny. To start from the top, he was the only main cast who didn't get to say goodbye to Allura at the end, and is the sole Altean left who remembers Altea. What the fuck.

Even if they are making New Altea, it's not the same. He lost his child, the only other person who understood the grief of loosing a whole PLANET. Family, friends, homes, graves, photos, memories. Gone. History destroyed, never to truly be brought back. Anything that Coran forgets is gone. Well and truly gone, because the Castleship would have possibly had records still, but that was destroyed when Lotor died.

He doesn't have her crown anymore, because the crystal is in Shiro's prosthetic, he doesn't have the ship, he doesn't have the Lions. All he has are the Paladins, and the mice. And a handful of Alteans who never were on Altea, and probably don't know all the customs he does, because of the 10,000 years difference. That's a pretty shitty ending.

So, long story long, my ending.

Adam doesn't die. He is in the piolet accident, but survives by a miracle. He's in the med bay for the entirety of the final two season, and wakes up during the final stretch of season 8. The whole time, before they leave for space, Shiro has flashbacks to times spent with Adam, and we see Shiro have regrets for going into space. He talks to Keith about retiring after everything is over.

Either Lotor and Allura, or they end things in space and Lance and Allura go on their date (I personally would rute for Lotor and Allura, the are so cute) and get their heartfelt scene, foreshadowing the end of the series.

Hunk reunites with his family, and he watches the people of the camps struggle to get back on their feet, and Hunk help them out however he can. We get a scene of him watching a local soup kitchen that had been swamped with people, and Hunk rolls up his sleeves, make a remark bout cooking with less/weirder items, and knock the people in the soup kitchen off their feet with is food. A shot of him watching everyone eat, and Hunk feels pride, in watching the affects of his food. It's different than feeding his friends, and even different than the parades and the dinners planets through Voltron.

Pidge, who is still grounded for sneaking off to space, spends time in the greenhouse with her mom, watching her work. It reminds her of Reiner, and makes her miss Okyry. She mentions Green and nature to her mom, and her mom jokes back about her finally starting to get into nature. They bond over plants, and Pidge grows a little bit fonder to grass and dirt.

Them space time, series progresses, OMG Haggar is sending mechas after us, and Alteans are the piolets. OMG x2, the piolets are dying , what is happening. Allura, what are you doing with that symbiot, that literally just killed that piolet?

Then, the end.

The multiverse is falling apart, Haggar is going to destroy everything. What do we do?

Lotor, in a desperate final act, confronts Haggar as his mother, finally acknowledging that yes, the woman who he had despised his whole life is he mother. He finally speaks to her as his mother... and denounces her.

Honerva is heartbroken. She curses him, swears that if he will not be her son, then there will be no world period. In retaliation, just like he had his father, Lotor lunges forward, and kills Honerva. As she dies, he cradles her in his arms, and listens as she mumbles about her beautiful son, before finally passing on.

But the events do not end there, because time and space is unraveling apart. They can't fix it, only Allura has an idea, and she's crying. She tells them, and despite everyone's protests, they know what must be done. She says her goodbyes, parting with a kiss to Lotor/Lance, strong hugs to the other Paladins and then...

She turns to Coran, who despite his quietness, has been sobbing the whole time. He pulls her into a hug, face pressed into her curly white hair, breathing in the flower she adored so much, and says their finally goodbyes.

The universe is saved, and everyone grieves a tragic loss. They start traveling back to earth, the Paladins and Coran and Lotor keeping to themselves for the most part, Lance/Lotor barely making it from their room most days, when they come across an alert. A planet that had not been in the charted maps they had, and certainly not in the area they had traveled mear days ago.

Upon closer looking, it looks almost exactly like...Altea.

With the last of her quintessence, Allura had somehow made a new Altea for Coran and the other Alteans to live. Coran breaks down upon seeing a field of flowers that smell like his princess, and imminently starts planning for a tribute for her, right on the top of the hill facing out towards the flowers.

Time skip follows, and Adam waeks up, Shiro asleep at his bedside. Adam, with such slow, shaky movements, wakes up Shiro, and the two finally meet again after years of being apart. Shiro imminently proposes on the spot, not baring to loose the man he loves again.

Keith starts traveling the plants, heling out where he can. The remaining Marmora's help him, tending to villages or injured people, when Hunk asks if he can come too. He wants to help, and he's smart, and strong. And Keith mentions that the best thing these people need is a warm meal, and there's no one who knows that better tank Hunk. So they travel, heling the planets, meeting more people, bonding (Because yeah! Hunk and Keith are the best!)

Pidge is on Altea, helping Lance and Coran with setting up the Alteans. Her electronic skills are unmatched, and she takes this time to pick a couple samples for her mom. Lance catches her, and offers to take her around the fields, and they do. It's peaceful, the sun setting and breeze. The best sunset she'd seen since before Voltron, in her opinion.

Lotor slowly opens back up to the others, grief pushing him away from everyone. Coran is the first he goes to, asking the older man about Allura, and Altea, anything to keep is mind off his loss. Coran indulges him, going on about the old Castel (which still blows up some how, just cant think of it now) and Lotor listens like his life depends on it. After everything is set up on new Altea, Coran askes him to become and advisor, which Lotor accepts.

Then we go to the final scene, which is a couple years in the future. Lance is teaching fighter piolet classes at the Garrison, Shiro is happily married, Keith and Hunk are still red crossing it up in space, Pidge is a Botanists and Cyber Scientist (or whatever the hell she is) and freelances across the universe, and Coran and Lotor are co-advisors for new Altea with Romelle as one in training, which Lotor writing a full, in depth history of the Galran war and Altean history. Nothing will be lost again.

They are at dinner, under Allura's statue, it's growing dark. They finish, they have drinks, and go to bed. Lance wakes up first, in a symbolism for the first episode, him finding his lion first. The others follow, and soon, they are under Allura's statue once again. The lions are all active, which they haven't been since they saved the multiverse. The group watches the Lions stand, and roar, before a shimmering blue figure fades into existence. Allura. She doesn't see them, because she's only there for the Lions, or so the others think. As the Lions start flying into the sky, she turns around, waiving slowly to the Paladins and others, a smile on her face, before fading.

A camera shot of the group on the ground, like the series, zooming out as they all watch the Lions leave, for the final time feeling the connection of Voltron, before the Lions fly through the galaxy, into a new one, in the shape of a woman curled into a ball.

End of series.

Okay, its 6:30 now, I'm going to bed

[artist-issues]

What other movies has chris sanders done? (Also- watched Wild Robot. It was phenomenal)

If I have my timeline right, he worked in some capacity on each Disney movie during and after "The Rescuers Down Under." I know he made big contributions to Beauty & the Beast, The Lion King, and Mulan...but his big one, the one he came up with and wrote and directed and did the storyboarding and voices for, was Lilo & Stitch.

I know he left Disney because he was working on Bolt, directing it, and it was too zany and out of pocket and they wanted to go a different direction, so they gave the project to Byron Howard (who also did Tangled, Zootopia...he's great too.) So then Chris Sanders left Disney

AND WENT TO DREAMWORKS, where he directed How to Train Your Dragon (the first and best one) and then The Croods, and now The Wild Robot.

I'm told he also directed Disney's CGI-Live-Action adaptation of The Call of the Wild on Disney+ here recently, but I never watched that because I don't think Chris Sanders' storytelling style lends itself to such a savage story and the "weird mirage of maturity" people expect to come with "Live Action." So I was afraid watching it would taint my love for The Call of the Wild, AND force me to watch Chris Sanders bent out of his natural habitat.

But maybe it's good, and I'm wrong, I haven't heard much about it.

Then he did The Wild Robot!

I don't know if that is a good official list—you can also check out his IMDB page—but to my knowledge he doesn't really miss.

I mean. To give you an idea.

If Lilo & Stitch isn't impressive enough for you? Please consider that the scenes Chris Sanders came up with were "Simba meets Mufasa's ghost" and "The Beast dies" and "Mulan jumps across the fence posts instead of walking on the bridge because she always has her own creative way of doing things."

And he conceptualized Timon like this:

which has nothing to do with anything but like. look at him.

If people considered animation directors with as much mainstream limelight as they do live-action films, Chris Sanders' body of work would place him next to like, James Cameron, Stephen Spielberg, those sorts of guys. But as it is he's just the cackling genius behind a huge and memorable chunk of our childhoods and nobody knows it.

[artist-emerald]

If they make another Trolls show for after the events of Band Together (which they are totally going to do, this is DreamWorks after all) I hope it follows the movie canon and not the show canon

Allow me to explain:

Trolls

The Beat Goes On

Trolls 2: World Tour

Trollstopia

Trolls 3: Band Together

These are our main sources (holiday specials thrown in where needed)

We can consider the canon consistent from the first movie, through The Beat Goes On, and a majority of the way into World Tour. However, there is a point where the timeline splits, and that is when Branch first confesses his feelings to Poppy in their big fight in World Tour.

Trollstopia was entertaining, but it was definitely messy. Absolutely 0 Broppy, amongst other things. But one big thing that the show did give us, a multiverse, courtesy of the Funk Trolls.

Trollstopia is a timeline where Branch hadn't confessed his feelings for Poppy yet so they're still friends. But in the Holoday in Harmony special, we still get to see 2 characters from Trollstopia make an appearance. Showing that the events of Trollstopia still took place in the movie timeline, with some differences most likely.

So if another show is made, I find it very hard for them to continue using the alternate timeline for it and not the movie timeline because the relationship development between Poppy and Branch is just too strong to ignore again.

[chaos-and-sparkles]

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*puts on hat*

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Spider-Verse (chaipunk and chaipunksong, occasional ghostflower and spiderdads)

Hamilton (jamilton and lams)

Good Omens (ineffable husbands, qpr ineffable husbands)

She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (glimbow and glitra)

Marvel (depends on my mood, I do enjoy some frostiron tho)

Sherlock (ACD canon and Sherlock and Co. specifically) (johnlock, qpr johnlock)

Encanto (no ships)

ATLA (all ships welcome)

JJK (Anime) (sukuita, itafushi, nobamaki and satosugu)

Assorted Disney Movies

Assorted DreamWorks Movies

TSoA

Greek Mythology and Lore (patrochilles, persades, anything with odysseus)

Percy Jackson and the Olympians (percabeth, solangelo)

These are just my favourite ships, ofc, I'm still up for writing others!

So... yeah! :D

[jessidogg]

Hi! I wanted to ask if I'm allowed to request something? Can you give me your opinions on what Floyd's and JD's lives were like between the band breaking up and Floyd getting kidnapped, because I feel like they don't explain as much about that as they do with Spruce, Branch, and Clay. Anyway, if you want to do this, thanks, if not, then that's okay too, and could you recommend someone who might be willing to try?

Me Rn: Wait-- someone is ACTUALLY asking me to blab about BroZone for the next 15 minutes?!! YASSSS!! *fistpump*

OFC I'LL TAKE SUGGESTIONS ANYTIME ESPECIALLY ABOUT BROZONE AND BROPPY (and Cliva, duhhhh)

I was actually just thinking about this a few days ago myself and it's definitely hard to know for sure. John Dory and Floyd are both AMAZING characters, and I don't know what BroZone would be without them, but we just don't know too much about their characters yet to really know what they might have done or been into during their lives outside of the band.

John Dory did mention living on the Neverglade trail or sumptin' lol, so maybe he liked hikes (wuttt?!! ahsnioefosoj) or maybe there's some hidden meaning in therreee that I'm too dumb to figure out XDDD hellppp 💀💀 I do think John Dory did not find Rhonda until after he left BroZone for sure tho, and that since he didn't have his bros she kind of took their place for entertainment and something to love and such. So there was that. JD does also seem like the type of guy to explore and see what he can find. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he found out about all the other different kinds of trolls before Branch and Poppy did! (who out there rlly loves the new ship DawnDory?!! Omigosh, I don't rlly ship them, but I think they would be HILARIOUS ex's!!)

Floyd is definitely harder because he seems to be pretty chill. Maybe he traveled for his new solo singing career or something-- I mean, that would make sense to why in the world he would be at Mount Rageous for absolutely no reason :DDD I think he was pretty successful with that career tbh, I MEAN TROYE SIVAN'S VOICE IS SOOOO--- UGH I CANTTTT 😭😭🤩

not as good as JT's. But close.

All I can really tell about Floyd tho is that his style definitely went from classic boyband-ish to emo/punk for some reason sometime during those 20 years 🤣 Good thing he really looks good in that styleeee ♥️♥️♥️

The thing we have to remember is that this is a cartoon movie and that we can't expect all the answers (tho to me it's way more than a cartoon movie and I want ALL THE ANSWERS CUZ TROLLS IS MY LIFE) Heck, DreamWorks seems to be overwhelmed with all of the timelines and such in that movie... I believe it's times like these when we use that amazing blessing that God has lavished upon us:

ImAgInAtIoN...

I'm sure all of y'all out there in the Trolls Fandom are doin' plenty of that, lol. KEEP IT UP!!

thx for the question tho! I hope I answered it pretty well, and I totally take suggestions!! Love y'all! HEARTS!! ♥️♥️♥️

[blade-that-was-broken]

It kinda gives me life how much variety there is between what ages the bros were when the band broke up. Cause some people set JD as like 20 when it happened and like others set jd as a teenager and according to the trolls band together tiktok page jd is in his late 20s in band together so that means he would be like 9 years old max in cannon when the band broke up.

Personally looking at the flashback I think John Dory looks around 12 years old like he’s still got rosy cheeks and a baby face.

based on the magazine images the band started with just Bruce and John so like they’re basically the same age maybe 2 years between them. Then Clay joined so there’s probably a bit of a bigger gap between him and Floyd. Maybe like 3-4 years younger according to the band together like band page that dreamworks put out Floyd was originally referred to as the baby in the band before he out grew it and Branch joined.

So assuming that what dreamworks put out is legit in cannon JD was 9 when the band broke up, Bruce was 8ish Clay was like 6-7 Floyd was like 4 probably and branch was a few months old. Unless of course JD and Bruce are like fraternal twins or something with John being a few minutes older, which they might be considering they started their careers at the same time.

Troll aging is wild and it’s crazy to think that they could have been this young but tiny was sing dancing and driving at 1 month old so they age at weird rates.

The most wild part about this is that Bruce would have 13 kids at like 28-29 years old which is wild but might be the case cause all his kids look basically the same age and who knows how many sets of twins and or triplets he has.

Wow. Okay that was so much. I’m not entirely sure how to respond to that 😂

Frankly I don’t think the writers actually pay that much attention to time lines and continuity. I could be wrong but that’s just kind of how I see it. Timelines and concepts seem convoluted at best and I don’t particularly mind - as it’s aimed at kids - but I can understand why people might get a little frustrated.

Troll aging is unpredictable and absolutely WILD even if you go with older ages. Personally, I usually have JD being about 16 when the band break up. And as much as the others being younger and leave seems insane to us, it seems like with trolls, they can, at least generally can take care of themselves. I try to balance human realism and the troll surrealism a bit which is why I don’t generally use those ages of 9 and under. But I also don’t do exact human realism cause well, I just don’t.

I guess everyone does things a little differently and you’re right! It’s totally interesting. I think the Vacay people are probably more prone to having a bunch of kids than trolls. But idk maybe you’re right and Bruce and Brandy had a bunch of sets of twins and triplets and whatever.

Conclusion - Troll ages and maturing rates are absolutely wild and unpredictable lol

[deathandthemaiden23]

Bro idk who's around me rn idk who's really still here in this fandom idk who will even see this or read it and i dont wanna get into it (proceeds to get into it) but ive been on a grand fucking expedition to confront past trauma and shit lately which whoopeee what else is new for what basically amounts to a dreamworks adult obsessed with the grim reaper from shrek specifically i think there's probably an actual good reason this is my biggest blorbo yet (which by the way, my good bitches, is truly saying something) beyond "big scary wolf sexy" but like anyways its been a hot fuckin second of me just sort of existing in purgatory with basically only this character to keep me real company the whole time chipping away at fanfic and makin doodles here and there while trying to solve the great big fuckin mystery of hey pal is there any particular reason you spend most of your free time fantasizing at length about being loved and cared for by literal fuckin death but um i kinda sorta had been making peace lately with the very real possibility that probably the only reappearances from Death we'd see going forward in this franchise would kinda just be relegated to stuff like being a playable character in that dumbass mario kart game they made recently that they had the audacity to charge $50 for the version with him in it and I was immediately prepared to shell out the fuckin money regardless anyways tldr this is my longwinded way of saying bless harvey fuckin guillen for supposedly saying he wants to reprise his role as perrito in shrek 5 and specifically mentioning he wanted to know more about his backstory including the near death experience he had in the sock that he still wears like ok let me be clear im not getting my hopes up for shit im super excited about the idea of harvey and everybody reprising their roles for future shrek installments but i know shit be disappointing sometimes and it just be like that sometimes blablabla alright nothing is set in stone in this cursed ass timeline we're in bbbbbbut

✨️H O W E V E R✨️

I cannot help but think in some kind of weirdly jaded optimism that surely dreamworks would not fucking let the absolute furry cashcow that Death is go to fucking waste if they're bringing shrek back to the big screen it just seems incredibly fuckin stupid this big fuckin bastard gave everyone a boner when last wish dropped to the extent that i actually didnt know anything about last wish going in to see it in theaters the first time knew nothing of the plot who was in it whatever right THE ONLY FUCKIN KNOWLEDGE I HAD OF LAST WISH PRIOR TO SITTING DOWN AND WATCHING IT WAS "OH I GUESS THERE'S A WOLF CHARACTER AND EVERYONE WANTS TO FUCK HIM" LMFAO UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE FUCKIN YEAR RIGHT LOL anyways if dreamworks doesnt seize the opportunity to give him at least one more like visible cameo appearance anywhere in whatever they can squeeze out of the shrek franchise after it was dead (lmfao) for like years (the puss in boots show is little known to anyone sadly and also it seems vaguely noncanonical if that makes sense stuff gets said on the regular in that show that just seems too batshit even for shrek standards) I'll genuinely like die of shock the entertainment industry is chock full of companies just like dreamworks always achin to get their hands on another iconic character they can squeeze money out of ad infinitum and like i dont want that to happen with Death I dont but also... please just let him show up at least one more time dreamworks throw this bitch a bone im begging you you will make so much money i promise u the thirsty tumblr fans are no joke we'll bankroll your ass to the moon and back

I feel it would be remiss of me not to offer some form of content after all this impassioned war and peace length solilioquy about the scu (shrek cinematic universe) so here's an old WIP from forever ago im like 90% i havent posted here (if i have oh fuckin well tbh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯) its a lil scene from chapter 2 of my death fic where he gets caught redhanded picking flowers for his crush because he's a dork ass loser and wants to impress her without coming on too strong lmao like bro she's so into you just go for it

[yo-aroleplayfinder]

Bitches be shopping

Howdy! I’m a 25 yo enby looking for another fandom roleplay! I’m semi-lit/ lit. I prefer longer replies. On a good day I’d really hope for a reply that could potentially break discords word count, but I also understand that sometimes it can be hard to have full para replies. Just try not to give me one or two sentence responses and if you can, please try and match reply length as much as you can, and I will do the same for you!

I roleplay in 3rd person, as it’s hard for me to roleplay in other POV’s. I’d prefer my partner do the same! Id prefer my partner be 20+, any younger and I’d be very uncomfortable as I enjoy playing out darker/heavier subjects from time to time, and it’s simply just a comfort zone thing too. Though I do enjoy my fair share of fluff as well lol.

The roleplay can be either long term or short term, again just talk to me and we’ll figure it out.

As for the fandom- I know this is a long shot finding others my age who share the same enjoyment of it, but, I’m looking for a trolls roleplay. Yes the dreamworks movie. I know lmao, but hear me out. The movie dropped some more lore on branch and we get to meet his brothers, but there’s a huge time skip from Brozone breaking up to present and I think it would be interesting to explore that timeline from the brothers pov.

I guess that’s specifically what I’m looking for here, someone willing to have fun and explore that timeline with me!

If interested, please leave a like and I’ll reach out!

YO YO YO LEAVE A LIKE AND ANON WILL REACH OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[heartstopper-lover123]

Coke or Pepsi? Pepsi (but only max)

Disney or dreamworks? Depends

Coffee or tea? Neither

Books or movies? Again depends

Windows or mac? Idc

Dc or marvel? Marvel all the way!

Xbox or PlayStation? I have an xbox 369 and a PlayStation 1 so I can't decide

Dragon age or mass effect? Idk

Night owl or early riser? Night owl @s0lit4ir3 can vouch for me

Cards or chess? Depends

Chocolate or vanilla? Depends

Vans or converse? Converse ( I have quite a few pairs including bisexual ones)

Fluff or angst? Again depends

Beach or forest? Both

Dogs or cats? Both

Clear skies or rain? Normally rain, but sometimes clear skies

Cooking or eating out? Cooking, but I'm eating out

Spicy or mild food? When I have the energy then spicy

Halloween/samhain or solstice/yule/Christmas? Christmas then halloween

Would you rather forever be a bit hot or a bit cold? A bit cold

What superpower? Shape-shifting

Animation or live action? Both

Baths or showers? Depends, mostly baths

Fantasy or sci-fi? Probably fantasy

Quotes? "every queer person has the right to come out on their own terms and on their own timeline. They also have the right not to come out at all. The forced conformity of the closet cannot be answered with the forced conformity of coming out of it. This isnt about shame. This is about privacy and the fundamental right of self-determination which are exactly the principles in which queer liberation has always been fought"-Alex Claremont Diaz (red white and royal blue)

Youtube or netflix? Both

When do you feel accomplished? Sometimes if I've written more of my novel/s. Or never at all

Star wars or star trek? I haven't watched either but probably star trek

Paperback or hardcover? Depends

No literature or no music? Suicide

Last person to make you laugh? The dog im dogsitting (my dad came home and he got excited)

City or countryside? Both

Fav chips? We say crisps dear, and probably any walkers crisps tbh, idm

Pants or dress? We call them trousers darling. And mostly trousers

Library or museum? Both

Character or plot driven? Both

Bookmarks or folding pages? Bookmarks. I make my own. And if you fold, you die

Dream job? Interior designer, author, or photographer

What you gives you comfort? My bed, animals, books, osemanverse, queer happiness, conan gray, girl in red

What are you currently having brainrot levels of interest over? Planning my parents wedding, Conan Gray, halloween (and xmas)

Current fav song? Manic or Greek God by Conan Gray

Books read this year? Loads: loveless; iwbft; heartstopper vols 1,2,3&4; what if it's us?; the upside of unrequited; she drives me crazy; red white and royal blue; Nick and Charlie; This Winter; solitare; radio silence; dr jekyll and mr hyde; others I can't remember

Fav scent? Idk rain, or books

Fav season? Autumn then winter

Current reads? The summer I turned pretty by Jenny Han

Gold or silver? Silver

Are you more like Nick or Charlie? Nick

Fav fictional character? Tori Spring, Michael Holden, Nick Nelson (and Nellie), Henry George Edward James Fox Mountchristen-Windsor, Alex Claremont Diaz

Have you ever dyed your hair? No my mum said not until I'm 16 bc my hair has a natural gradient of brunette to blone

What's your favourite piece of clothing rn and why? These green trousers I got from Tesco, they were £20 and have four pockets, and give me an hourglass figure

What's your favourite place to be? On my bed/in my room

My question- What's your favourite animal? Foxes, frogs, horses, cats, dogs, red pandas

Np tags: @avie-pigeon-cheese @robinheaney12 @stranglingfigs @lonelycatsblog @acuriousconstellation and anyone else <3

RULES: answer all questions, add one question of your own, and tag as many people as there are questions

thank you @good-enemy for the tag <3

coke or pepsi: coke

disney or dreamworks: sorry but i prefer disney i could name maybe like two dreamworks movies off the top of my head

coffee or tea: tea because coffee tastes burnt

books or movies: books

windows or mac: windows

dc or marvel: unfortunately i am a marvel fan

x-box or playstation: i havent used either of these in years

dragon age or mass effect: what

night owl or early riser: night owl

cards or chess: cards

chocolate or vanilla: depends on the food but usually vanilla

vans or converse: docs

lavellan, trevelyan, cadash, or adaar: ⁉️

fluff or angst: angst. hurt that blorbo you know you want to

beach or forest: beach

dogs or cats: dogs by default because im allergic to cats

clear skies or rain: clear skies but like the kind of clear skies when its sunny with no clouds in the sky but its chilly out

cooking or eating out: depends on the food

spicy food or mild food: mild food bc im a picky eater and also white

halloween/samhain or solstice/yule/christmas: hanukkah

would you rather forever be a little too cold or a little too hot: a little too cold

if you could have a superpower what would it be: telekinesis but that might just be because im a jean grey girlie

animation or live action: live action

paragon or renegade: ⁉️

baths or showers: baths but unfortunately showers are more convenient

team cap or team iron man: i hate both of them

fantasy or sci-fi: anyone who knows me knows i am the biggest fantasy lover out there

do you have three or four favorite quotes, if so what are they: idk i have a lot but i couldnt name them off the top of my head

youtube or netflix: youtube

harry potter or percy jackson: percy jackson obviously. he'd also kick harry potter's ass but thats a whole other conversation

when do you feel accomplished: when i succeed

star wars or star trek: ive seen bits of star wars so that one

paperback books or hardcover books: hardcover books because they have built in bookmarks and also theyre pretty

live in a world without literature or music: nice try but no

who was the last person to make you laugh: i dont know probably my dad

city or countryside: city i love the city i am a big city person (i dont live in a big city)

favorite chips: baked lays

pants or dresses: pants

libraries or museums: museums we have no good libraries here

character driven stories or plot driven stories: oh thats hard. probably plot but i do love a good character driven story

bookmarks or folding pages: bookmarks

dream job: music therapist

what gives you comfort: my dog. also music

what are you currently having brain rot levels of interest over: the once upon a broken heart series by stephanie garber and also maisie peters's music

what is your current favorite song: coming of age by maisie peters

(added question) how many books have you read this year?

tagging @henwilsons @napollya @thegoosewitch and whoever else is interested

[maribatshipper]

I'm so happy to see Disney addressing Periods, considering it doesn't like to make dirty jokes or things like that, but I think Dreamworks should have a turn. Dreamworks isn't shy to making adult jokes. Disney doesn't normally touch them with a twelve foot pole.

I want Trollhunter Trolls to ask about Periods! I want Akiridions to ask humans how they make babies, because apparently kissing is Akiridion version of sex.

I want to see Astrid being Clearly on her period, and Hiccup being the husband material he is and supporting her.

I want to know if Fiona from Shrek gets her periods while an ogre, or if it's just a human thing.

I mean, DreamWorks is always making Dick jokes, let's make some Period jokes.

I want to see a girl wake up on her second day of period and grip her abdomen for a second before brushing it off and going about her day.

I want Megamind to be the boyfriend/husband material he is and support Roxanne Ritchi during her periods.

I want Jack Frost to help little siblings getting period products for their big siblings in the supermarket.

Or even Puss In Boots giving his Mama chocolate or whatever they can get in that timeline for Women.

I want Wizard boys to be freaking out over their girlfriends periods and trying every spell to get rid of it because the Period is hurting their girlfriends, and that in turn hurts the boys, either because they don't want their girls in pain, or their girlfriends are more terrifying on their periods.

Or Girlfriends supporting girlfriends. Fathers supporting daughters! Sons supporting mothers! Give me Jim Lake Jr getting his mother Period Products!

[lumiidragon]

i think the reason people like Feathers is that she has a fairly appealing and cute design compared to the other new dragons introduced in T9R, which unfortunately isn't saying much, she's still pretty bland compared to the dragon designs from the films and previous TV series. i really wish they had leaned into the feathered serpent inspiration more for the Featherhides. i also agree that the Flood Fang is one of the better designs in T9R, though i still think it could use some tweaks to fit better into the HTTYD universe. i don't blame the people who worked on the show for these issues, i'm guessing Dreamworks probably didn't give them enough time or budget to make the show as good as it potentially could have been.

also the Bubblehorn is slightly edited model of a dragon from Rescue Riders, which is why it looks like... That.

I think the real killer in Feathers's full potential, along with the other dragons, is frankly the style.

If I knew nothing about TNR and I was shown this, I would have guessed that this came from a little kids series closer to Rescue Riders than the actual HTTYD line. The style is way too cartoony and blocky and it just doesn't match to the HTTYD style, even the older, less quality styles of the series (no hate towards the series of course because it's my soul and blood, but we can't argue that for obvious reasons, it can't hold up against the movie's graphics).

This blocky and cartoony look sadly makes the design suffer in terms of HTTYD-relations. As its own series, I feel like it's fine. Of course, since this is a continuation from the original HTTYD timeline and not a spin-off like Rescue Riders, it's hard not to constantly compare, but I also feel like it's the nature of things as well.

Now, I totally agree that Feathers's design is much more appealing that the others, especially Wu and Wei... She has much more personality and her abilities are frankly just more interesting. Thunder is just a Toothless copy, Wu and Wei are painfully predictable, and Plowhorn is just "the beef" of the group.

Of course, with all of this said, I'm still not crazy over Feathers like the bulk of the other fans are, but I'm not saying that I dislike her, either. If I'm going to be completely honest, it's Thunder I want to like the most. Night lights are familiar and enjoyable, but TNR's night lights are.....not. That, and no one on this green earth will convince me not to hate the fact that Thunder looks so much like a night fury cop-out instead of like an actual mix between two subspecies, especially since there would be more light fury genetics added to the gene pool at this point and would be overtaking the night fury ones by now.

Sorry for this getting a little long and rambly!